An additional point for why Nidoking makes sense for Koga is that it and Nidoqueen are often shown as parental Pokemon. And Koga, y'know. Is a dad. It also means you can put a Nidorina somewhere on one of Janine's team to reference that she's Koga's daughter.
I feel like Shuckle or Galarian Slowking would be good choices for representing Koga's medicine specialisation, plus they both fit his type preferences. Greninja and Toxicroak were great picks!
Though it isn't really a suggestion of a certain pokemon, I feel like using some pokemon with lower base stats that are held up by strong tools could be one thing that could help differentiate Janine from her father, like a Shedinja or Qwilfish (which gets a lot of great TM's). Venomoth, which you already decided to give her, does fit with that fairly well due to its 450 bst and access to quiver dance. I also think a Nidoqueen on some of her teams would be cool since you gave Koga a Nidoking on his 8th gym team and rematch. As for Sabrina, hear me out. Give her a Malamar It'd probably fit more for the middle range of teams, since it's not the strongest, but its mind control shtick delves into the darker more mysterious side of psychic types, something that I think fits Sabrina very well.
Ooh, great ideas. I have different ideas on how to further separate the two and this helps a lot. I also decided on one major Pokemon for her who people will disagree with but I think it works. I’ll look more into the connections will Malamar. 👍
I loved that Ninjask got to have some spotlight. I always use it when it’s available. It may not be the strongest but it’s fast and has coverage with moves like metal claw, dig, aerial ace, and leech life.
I really like koga coz he's one of the only NPCs who actually progress in the game. Usually it's just ur rival progressing. But koga getting promoted to the elite four is a cool detail.
Predictions for Janine: Very similar to Koga, using Crobat, Weezing, Ariados, Venomoth. Rematch adds Toxicroak and Drapion. Later on, she uses Tentacruel, Arbok, Roserade, and Nidoqueen in the PWT. There's going to be some overlap from Koga, but maybe not as much as one might think just due to the abundance of Poison types. We already know Venomoth will be her ace, lol. Honestly, there's not as much to go off here though, just because Koga is much more well known. Janine doesn't even appear in the anime. While I'm here, one thing I just thought of that might've been a cool pick for diversity in either Koga or Janine is Mr. Mime. Their gym in both games is known for its invisible walls, and Mr. Mime is literally known for creating invisible walls, as a mime and with Reflect/Light Screen/Barrier. I don't think it'd show up in either team necessarily, but like, this is a random thing I just thought of that I had nowhere else to share, lol 0: Venonat / Zubat / Ekans 1: Venonat / Nidorina / Beedrill 2: Venonat / Nidorina / Arbok / Golbat 3: Venomoth / Beedrill / Arbok / Golbat 4: Venomoth / Ariados / Arbok / Golbat / Weezing 5: Venomoth / Ariados / Arbok / Crobat / Tentacruel 6: Venomoth / Ariados / Vileplume / Crobat / Tentacruel / Weezing 7: Venomoth / Nidoqueen / Vileplume / Crobat / Tentacruel / Weezing 8: Venomoth / Nidoqueen / Vileplume / Crobat / Tentacruel / Weezing E4: Venomoth / Nidoqueen / BeedrillM / Tentacruel / Roserade / Zoroark CH: Venomoth / Drapion / BeedrillM / Toxicroak / Weavile / Zoroark I'm not sure if you'll take the same direction, but I attempted to make Janine parallel Koga quite a bit, with use of the NidoranF line, Vileplume instead of Victreebel, Crobat and Venomoth together, and Tentacruel and Weezing to round out the teams. It's honestly quite difficult to make these two teams unique, even though there are a lot of poison types, they sorta have to share. I left out Muk, Nidorino/king, and Victreebel. I added in Ariados because I think she deserves it as a relative to her addition in Johto games, and there really just aren't any other poison types. (Qwilfish, Crobat, and Ariados are literally the only pokemon, lol) I think since Koga uses Venomoth quite a bit, Janine gets to use the Crobat line quite a bit up until the Elite Four. I wouldn't have given her Beedrill at all, but I think if it's going to be there as a mega, it makes sense to be represented early on in her teams as well. I think Zoroark is a must-have if taking her gym-theme into consideration; literally trainers presenting as an Illusion of Janine. It definitely fits the visual as a ninja I think, too. I thought of Amoonguss for the same reason, but I wanted to keep Roserade as grass/poison E4. I'm holding out for Weavile because I think it fits the vibe, and while I don't think Drapion fits Janine as much as Koga, I'm honestly just running out of good options, lol. I also wanted to fit Scolipede somewhere but like, there's just too many bug poison types with Venomoth and BeedrillM already. I'm not 100% satisfied with this roster as it is, I think there's room for improvement, but I'll go with this for now, lol
I love that most of his teams are not weak to ground at all, most of the Pokémon you gave him are neutral or immune to it, fast psychic types still have a great time against him though; he does still have bug types for them of course though
You slayed this ! I wouldn't change a single thing !!! Scizor is so perfect for him im glad you saw that too. Hmmmm for janine its hard cause shes not very well developed but id say Nidoqueen Ariados Arbok and Venomoth obviously, and then Overqwil cause i feel like it fits the Ninja aesthetic as well as maybe hypno Salazzle or Accelgor Weavile and maybe Dragalage cause it matches her scarf kinda
Thanks! Ooh, I didn’t even think of Dragalge at all and it definitely fits her aesthetic. You’re pretty much right on the money with the picks! But there’s one that might surprise y’all.
I love strong gym leaders and trainers. Like Bugsy (their Scyther at least) and Whitney from the Johto games, and some of the gen 1 rival fights. I also love it when the gym leader uses a fully evolved pokemon as their ace, oh and the gen 3 kingdra with double team, and bdsp Cynthia, and LA Volo I like the story telling of how Sabrina beat the fighting dojo and became gym leader of Saffron City (iirc) I think Koga should lead with a pokemon that leads with Toxic Spikes, or Venomoth to use Sleep Powder the QD and Bug Buzz. In the back a pokemon like Gengar with Hex in its moveset, maybe hypnosis, dream eater and sludge wave Also nice story telling with Koga no longer using Venomoth so his daughter has the familial Venomoth it's my personal philosophy that each gym leader should have at least 3 pokemon and one pokemon outside of their type specialty to not get swept by a single type, but I love it when rom hacks give them 6 mons for the first gym leader
For a while, I was planning out teams for if I could make a Romhack of HeartGold SoulSilver. For Koga I gave him Overquill and Gliscror. Janine I Gave Sneasseler
I hate the lack of muk. It's a pokemon he uses quite often and is in most of his cannon teams. Especially in hgss when it not only is the second Pokemon on his main team to hold an item (black sludge) it even makes a cameo on his rematch team. It's not entirely a bad Pokemon either it has good hp and special defence like you mentioned earlier so why not implement it more?
HEYYY, great video as always! (Redacted = [Ninjask] and [Acellgor]...you really want to know 😂) Adrian's mention of Accelgor in the timed Koga Poll and my response to it...for those who missed the timed Koga poll: (bulletpoint and easy to read form) - Accelgor can gain access to Water Shuriken…Greninja’s "signature move". - Has a good movepool to counter Poison’s weakness and Steel. Focus Blast - I mentioned how similar there designs were, double scarf and color scheme, another ninja inspired pokemon - A really fast Final Gambit user that can remove a harmful threat - Can be used as a fast hazard setter (Toxic Spikes, Spikes) - (New) Sword's Dex Entry: "It moves with blinding speed and lobs poison at foes." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *My thoughts on the choice of the two potential contenders* : I really see why you chose Ninjask over Accelgor though. Accelgor fits Koga more thematically and design wise. You mention with Koga about medicinal aiding, and Accelgor tends to itself to stop from dehydrating by using its thin membrane and learn a few healing moves like Recover and Giga Drain. But Ninjask is more reliable at doing its job and synergizes more with the team overall. I mean Accelgor has the same kit in its arsenal like how you said in the video, (speed boosting in the form of Agility) + Baton Pass...but Ninjask naturally has Speed Boost and can run Protect to guarantee a stat rise and Baton Pass out. Or use Swords Dance with a Focus Sash and gain Speed Boost...which can be Baton Pass. *And looking at the Elite 4 team* , all of these Pokemon are major Physical users. Toxicroak can be ran special...but Swords Dancing Close Combat and Gunk Shot STAB are what people use instead of Nasty Plot, Sludge Bomb, and Priority Vaccum Wave STAB. And Tentacruel is more of a more defensive utility pokemon than an attacker with the majority of the util being physical. You got Flip Turn, Rapid Spin, and Knock Off. Accelgor would be a great option with it being the sole (or second if Toxicroak is ran Special) Special attecker. BUT I'm just imagining Baton Passing a Mega Beedrill a Swords Dance +1 Speed Boost...yeah Ninjask was the correct decision. This Elite 4 team would definelty be on par with the BDSP Elite 4 in difficultly with viable items and movepools. *Closing comment* : This series is sooo good! Huge fan of this concept and I really hope this breaks you out as a rising Pokemon UA-camr. Great quality, effort, researching and deep exploration, great paste in scripting and explanation, and videos with jammed amount of information in under 20 minutes is actually very surprising and refreshing. Keep going the great work! Fantastic content and cannot wait to see what other ideas you have in store in 2025! Edit: Tried to make it more simple to read and format it better. I took so long writing this comment haha.
Thanks!! Glad y’all are getting invested! I won’t lie, I’m really happy my teams worked out in the end since I chose Ninjask because it’s a Dark Type and I’m saving Unovan Pokemon for Janine. That Speed Boost accident was great! 😂 I didn’t even know it had that in the bag but I’m glad I got lucky. I’ll definitely keep the competitive side in mind from now on and I’ll think about the team balances too. Thanks!!!
@ Oop-Ninjask is Bug/Flying type. But…(lemme save your blunder…uhm) a defensive Tera Dark, am I right? Can block Prankster users from affecting it and is a solid answer to Prankster Eviolite Murkrow with Haze. Removes its Flying weakness too. 👍 Yep.
My predictions from last time: 0: Zubat / Koffing / Grimer (2/3) - Venonat makes sense for type diversity and theming. 1: Golbat / Koffing / Arbok (0/3) - Damn, already 0/3 LOL 2: Golbat / Koffing / Beedrill / Arbok (3/4) - I do kinda think Nidorino is a bit boring for this guy. Writing this as I watch, I hope Arbok comes out a little bit, because I don't think any early Poison type looks as menacing/terrifying as Arbok, and it's not one we'll see again for awhile, probably. 3: Crobat / Weezing / Beedrill / Arbok (0/4) - I probably should've waited at least one more badge for Crobat and Weezing, but eh, I was having trouble scaling these up with the way I was laying out the teams. Victreebel makes sense for that type diversity and theming. 4: Crobat / Weezing / Beedrill / Muk / Arbok (3/5) 5: Crobat / Weezing / Venomoth / Muk / Ariados (3/5) - I was kinda hoping to see Ariados early just because it's such a mainstay for his later teams and I don't think it'll fit well on later teams due to how weak it is. 6: Crobat / Weezing / Venomoth / Muk / Arbok / Ariados (4/6) - Finally, Muk is here. 7: Crobat / Weezing / Nidoking / Muk / Tentacruel / Ariados (4/6) - If there's one thing I predicted well, it was Nidoking joining in for the final badge, lol 8: Crobat / Weezing / Forretress / Muk / Tentacruel / Ariados (3/6) - As a formal bug-type specialist, I respect the upgrade to Scizor over Forretress. I might've made this team too weak, lol. Now all the individual picks (and leave-outs) make sense in terms of future planning. E4: Crobat / Beedrill-M / Drapion / Toxicroak / Tentacruel / Forretress (4/6) - Ninjask is such a weird Pokemon to me, like, in general, so I honestly didn't expect to see it make the team, but it's a cool choice. CH: Crobat / Beedrill-M / Drapion / Toxicroak / Greninja / Weavile (4/6) - The Toxapex addition due to the medicine background is really cool, and it's a good pokemon to fit as a new poison type. Overall: 55%. I definitely thought Venomoth and Victreebel we would see less of just because of their use on Janine (future) and Erika. I still would've liked to see Arbok and Ariados show up at least once, since I think Arbok is just too fitting for character and Ariados is so centric to Koga's existing teams. But I understand their reasons for exclusion. I think Muk should've also appeared just a little bit more, but I do understand the want/need for type diversity in an early Tentacruel and Victreebel. I think the one balancing thing for these teams is that I don't feel like Victreebel and Koffing belong on the same balanced team (at 3 badges). I'd probably have replaced it for Beedrill on that specific team. Also, depending on exact level, Zubat might be too weak for 1 badge. I think Koffing, Golbat, and Beedrill or Nidorino would've been well suited for that team, since Koffing is still unevolved at that stage, while the other two are a bit more powerful. The Nidorino choice makes a lot of sense after watching, since Nidorina will likely be used on Janine's team in parallel. I didn't expect to see Janine be next, I thought it was gonna be the 8 OG Kanto leaders first, lol Actual teams for comparison: 0: Zubat / Venonat / Koffing 1: Zubat / Nidorino / Beedrill 2: Golbat / Nidorino / Koffing / Beedrill 3: Golbat / Victreebel / Koffing / Venomoth 4: Crobat / Victreebel / Weezing / Venomoth / Beedrill 5: Crobat / Victreebel / Weezing / Venomoth / Tentacruel 6: Crobat / Victreebel / Weezing / Venomoth / Tentacruel / Muk 7: Crobat / Victreebel / Weezing / Venomoth / Tentacruel / Nidoking 8: Crobat / Scizor / Weezing / Venomoth / Tentacruel / Nidoking E4: Crobat / Scizor / Ninjask / BeedrillM / Tentacruel / Toxicroak CH: Crobat / Scizor / Greninja / BeedrillM / Toxapex / Toxicroak
Nice guesses. A couple little things are that for the Gym Battles (not rematch), I like to keep it as close to their base region as much as possible, that’s why I didn’t include Ariados even if I should’ve. Anything after that, I try to go sensibly creative with other regions and types as long as it makes sense, and the trainer keeps a clear showcase that they’re from their region with their team. Also, you got me thinking, I probably should’ve included Muk more since I don’t know any trainers to use it.
I reckon for Sabrina, u give her Mega Alakazam for the first gym to warm up trainers and to make her champion team really difficult ( harder then volo ) we give her Abra
The Elite Four list is especially devuous since if Scizor has U-turn and Tentacruel has Flip Turn, they can hassle you with annoying switches, i.e. Scizor U-turn so your Fire type attack goes into Tentacruel instead.
Directly from my notes: 🌌Sabrina: Mega-Alakazam, Mr.Mime, Espeon, Jynx, Wobbuffet, Slowking. Alakazam classic ace Mr.Mime is a really known psychic type from Kanto, and i think is funny that she has one. Espeon is the psy evolution from the kantonian pokemon Eevee (and fit so well, both are elegant and femenine) Jynx, another psy kanto pokemon Wobbuffet, i think she has one somewhere and they has an unique use kof psychic powers in pokemon Slowking, johto is nearby and Slowpoke is from kanto, and fits kinda better than Slowbro
The issue is that he's a Poison expert, and most Ninja mons aren't Poison types. For gym battles, I'd go with: >Crobat line >Toxicroak line >Ariados line >Gengar line >Dragalge line >Galarian Slowking line This team at any stage and level should allow koga to shine as a ninja. That said, he can still raise ninja mons like Greninja.
I think either Mega Lopunny or Mega Medicham would be a good fit for Janine''s Mega evolution. Janine has a story involving the Fighting Dojo and the visual styles of these pokemon both fit with Janine's different outfits.
Great video as always i also liked how you showed team rockets pokemon as the bad ones at 4:35 but im confused why you didnt mention accelgor from unova its a bug type and he is based on a ninja
I do wish there were more mons to use in base games. Feel bad or the "type specialists" that can't represent there Types. Morty and Agatha to name a few
I think it’s fine if they both have it. It fits great with both for different reasons. And we’ve got over a hundred trainers to cover, should be fine. 👍
Hey Adrian! Just wanted to let you know that I follow you sincer you were like 60 subs, also you inspired me to start my own UA-cam Channel! I really like your content and thank you so much for inspiring me, also I want to offer myself to make you a custom PFP and channel Banner for free!
Okay well since I was ignored in the comments for the Koga video you should give Janine an Overquill my logic is simple it's a puffer fish and puffer fish Venom is used by Ninja for quick kills but it actually works better because Koga comes from a long line of ninja so you could totally play it up as them breeding these rare variants to use in battle
9:49 Nidoking just doesn't work for Koga. It's too big/imposing for a ninja. Gengar is a better fit thematically. I know it's pretty overused in Kanto & elsewhere bc it was the only ghost type, but it really does fit. Other options for a 8th Badge fight include Scyther, Electrode (it's a bomb & a fast screens setter & Fuchsia gym has those invisible walls in it), Arbok, Hitmonlee, Machamp, Sandslash. If you open it up to Johto, Qwilfish is a definite Ninja pick as it's a mine, Forretress, Weavile, Gliscor (who has poison heal) & Ariados (albeit it's power level is rather low). Also, without movesets/items, we can't judge your team competitively beyond the potential of each mon which can be very low like in LGPE or very high. I still like the video otherwise tho
An additional point for why Nidoking makes sense for Koga is that it and Nidoqueen are often shown as parental Pokemon. And Koga, y'know. Is a dad.
It also means you can put a Nidorina somewhere on one of Janine's team to reference that she's Koga's daughter.
Greninja can have Protean, so it COULD briefly be Poison-Type if it has a move
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Appreciate it!!! 🫰😁
I am pleased by Greninja being on Koga’s team
I feel like Shuckle or Galarian Slowking would be good choices for representing Koga's medicine specialisation, plus they both fit his type preferences. Greninja and Toxicroak were great picks!
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Greninja is a FANTASTIC choice for Koga!!
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Though it isn't really a suggestion of a certain pokemon, I feel like using some pokemon with lower base stats that are held up by strong tools could be one thing that could help differentiate Janine from her father, like a Shedinja or Qwilfish (which gets a lot of great TM's). Venomoth, which you already decided to give her, does fit with that fairly well due to its 450 bst and access to quiver dance.
I also think a Nidoqueen on some of her teams would be cool since you gave Koga a Nidoking on his 8th gym team and rematch.
As for Sabrina, hear me out. Give her a Malamar
It'd probably fit more for the middle range of teams, since it's not the strongest, but its mind control shtick delves into the darker more mysterious side of psychic types, something that I think fits Sabrina very well.
Ooh, great ideas. I have different ideas on how to further separate the two and this helps a lot. I also decided on one major Pokemon for her who people will disagree with but I think it works.
I’ll look more into the connections will Malamar. 👍
14:05 And don’t forget that Greninja’s Japanese name is literally GekKOuGA.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I FORGOT TO PUT IT IN THE VIDEO
Maybe for janine lean more into poison with sub types like dark (drapion) or fighting (toxicroak) like how koga had plenty of bug types😊
Yup! Eternatus?
I loved that Ninjask got to have some spotlight. I always use it when it’s available. It may not be the strongest but it’s fast and has coverage with moves like metal claw, dig, aerial ace, and leech life.
Glad it worked out 👍
Killing it. Keep it up!
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I really like koga coz he's one of the only NPCs who actually progress in the game. Usually it's just ur rival progressing. But koga getting promoted to the elite four is a cool detail.
Predictions for Janine: Very similar to Koga, using Crobat, Weezing, Ariados, Venomoth. Rematch adds Toxicroak and Drapion. Later on, she uses Tentacruel, Arbok, Roserade, and Nidoqueen in the PWT.
There's going to be some overlap from Koga, but maybe not as much as one might think just due to the abundance of Poison types.
We already know Venomoth will be her ace, lol. Honestly, there's not as much to go off here though, just because Koga is much more well known. Janine doesn't even appear in the anime. While I'm here, one thing I just thought of that might've been a cool pick for diversity in either Koga or Janine is Mr. Mime. Their gym in both games is known for its invisible walls, and Mr. Mime is literally known for creating invisible walls, as a mime and with Reflect/Light Screen/Barrier. I don't think it'd show up in either team necessarily, but like, this is a random thing I just thought of that I had nowhere else to share, lol
0: Venonat / Zubat / Ekans
1: Venonat / Nidorina / Beedrill
2: Venonat / Nidorina / Arbok / Golbat
3: Venomoth / Beedrill / Arbok / Golbat
4: Venomoth / Ariados / Arbok / Golbat / Weezing
5: Venomoth / Ariados / Arbok / Crobat / Tentacruel
6: Venomoth / Ariados / Vileplume / Crobat / Tentacruel / Weezing
7: Venomoth / Nidoqueen / Vileplume / Crobat / Tentacruel / Weezing
8: Venomoth / Nidoqueen / Vileplume / Crobat / Tentacruel / Weezing
E4: Venomoth / Nidoqueen / BeedrillM / Tentacruel / Roserade / Zoroark
CH: Venomoth / Drapion / BeedrillM / Toxicroak / Weavile / Zoroark
I'm not sure if you'll take the same direction, but I attempted to make Janine parallel Koga quite a bit, with use of the NidoranF line, Vileplume instead of Victreebel, Crobat and Venomoth together, and Tentacruel and Weezing to round out the teams. It's honestly quite difficult to make these two teams unique, even though there are a lot of poison types, they sorta have to share. I left out Muk, Nidorino/king, and Victreebel. I added in Ariados because I think she deserves it as a relative to her addition in Johto games, and there really just aren't any other poison types. (Qwilfish, Crobat, and Ariados are literally the only pokemon, lol)
I think since Koga uses Venomoth quite a bit, Janine gets to use the Crobat line quite a bit up until the Elite Four. I wouldn't have given her Beedrill at all, but I think if it's going to be there as a mega, it makes sense to be represented early on in her teams as well.
I think Zoroark is a must-have if taking her gym-theme into consideration; literally trainers presenting as an Illusion of Janine. It definitely fits the visual as a ninja I think, too. I thought of Amoonguss for the same reason, but I wanted to keep Roserade as grass/poison E4. I'm holding out for Weavile because I think it fits the vibe, and while I don't think Drapion fits Janine as much as Koga, I'm honestly just running out of good options, lol. I also wanted to fit Scolipede somewhere but like, there's just too many bug poison types with Venomoth and BeedrillM already.
I'm not 100% satisfied with this roster as it is, I think there's room for improvement, but I'll go with this for now, lol
Why did I think for a minute you were gonna give him Pecharunt 💀💀
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I thought the exact same!!
What are the rules on adding Mythical Pokémon though?
@@TheDHono Probably rather not XD
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Love it love it love it!!! He's my favorite gym leader!. Awesome mons choices!
Man u showed Toxapex and I got WWII flash backs
😂😂 That’s the goal
Going with mega beedrill is PEAK!
Toxapex is a good choice imo, it really matches the stalling of koga's original kanto team
I love that most of his teams are not weak to ground at all, most of the Pokémon you gave him are neutral or immune to it, fast psychic types still have a great time against him though; he does still have bug types for them of course though
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You slayed this ! I wouldn't change a single thing !!! Scizor is so perfect for him im glad you saw that too.
Hmmmm for janine its hard cause shes not very well developed but id say Nidoqueen Ariados Arbok and Venomoth obviously, and then Overqwil cause i feel like it fits the Ninja aesthetic as well as maybe hypno Salazzle or Accelgor Weavile and maybe Dragalage cause it matches her scarf kinda
Roserade and Gliscor too oop
Thanks!
Ooh, I didn’t even think of Dragalge at all and it definitely fits her aesthetic.
You’re pretty much right on the money with the picks! But there’s one that might surprise y’all.
what about scolipede?
it's always gen 5 time
Koga wasn’t in Unova in the BW2 World Tournament.
But there’s another Kanto poison-user from there. 👀
But.....what about fred:(
Dw, I’ll give Eternatus his own Gym Leader teams
These just get better and beter
I love strong gym leaders and trainers. Like Bugsy (their Scyther at least) and Whitney from the Johto games, and some of the gen 1 rival fights. I also love it when the gym leader uses a fully evolved pokemon as their ace, oh and the gen 3 kingdra with double team, and bdsp Cynthia, and LA Volo
I like the story telling of how Sabrina beat the fighting dojo and became gym leader of Saffron City (iirc)
I think Koga should lead with a pokemon that leads with Toxic Spikes, or Venomoth to use Sleep Powder the QD and Bug Buzz. In the back a pokemon like Gengar with Hex in its moveset, maybe hypnosis, dream eater and sludge wave
Also nice story telling with Koga no longer using Venomoth so his daughter has the familial Venomoth
it's my personal philosophy that each gym leader should have at least 3 pokemon and one pokemon outside of their type specialty to not get swept by a single type, but I love it when rom hacks give them 6 mons for the first gym leader
For a while, I was planning out teams for if I could make a Romhack of HeartGold SoulSilver. For Koga I gave him Overquill and Gliscror.
Janine I Gave Sneasseler
Great choices
Awesome choices all around! Love Koga
Koga loves you too
I hate the lack of muk. It's a pokemon he uses quite often and is in most of his cannon teams. Especially in hgss when it not only is the second Pokemon on his main team to hold an item (black sludge) it even makes a cameo on his rematch team. It's not entirely a bad Pokemon either it has good hp and special defence like you mentioned earlier so why not implement it more?
True. Janine?
Once I saw this video was made by you I instantly liked
Once I saw this comment by you I instantly liked
crobat I feel is a tad too strong for Gym 5. Gym 6 however is fine.
True, I just put it there since at that level, your starter should be fully evolved
HEYYY, great video as always! (Redacted = [Ninjask] and [Acellgor]...you really want to know 😂)
Adrian's mention of Accelgor in the timed Koga Poll and my response to it...for those who missed the timed Koga poll: (bulletpoint and easy to read form)
- Accelgor can gain access to Water Shuriken…Greninja’s "signature move". - Has a good movepool to counter Poison’s weakness and Steel. Focus Blast
- I mentioned how similar there designs were, double scarf and color scheme, another ninja inspired pokemon
- A really fast Final Gambit user that can remove a harmful threat
- Can be used as a fast hazard setter (Toxic Spikes, Spikes)
- (New) Sword's Dex Entry: "It moves with blinding speed and lobs poison at foes."
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*My thoughts on the choice of the two potential contenders* :
I really see why you chose Ninjask over Accelgor though.
Accelgor fits Koga more thematically and design wise. You mention with Koga about medicinal aiding, and Accelgor tends to itself to stop from dehydrating by using its thin membrane and learn a few healing moves like Recover and Giga Drain. But Ninjask is more reliable at doing its job and synergizes more with the team overall. I mean Accelgor has the same kit in its arsenal like how you said in the video, (speed boosting in the form of Agility) + Baton Pass...but Ninjask naturally has Speed Boost and can run Protect to guarantee a stat rise and Baton Pass out. Or use Swords Dance with a Focus Sash and gain Speed Boost...which can be Baton Pass.
*And looking at the Elite 4 team* , all of these Pokemon are major Physical users. Toxicroak can be ran special...but Swords Dancing Close Combat and Gunk Shot STAB are what people use instead of Nasty Plot, Sludge Bomb, and Priority Vaccum Wave STAB. And Tentacruel is more of a more defensive utility pokemon than an attacker with the majority of the util being physical. You got Flip Turn, Rapid Spin, and Knock Off. Accelgor would be a great option with it being the sole (or second if Toxicroak is ran Special) Special attecker. BUT I'm just imagining Baton Passing a Mega Beedrill a Swords Dance +1 Speed Boost...yeah Ninjask was the correct decision. This Elite 4 team would definelty be on par with the BDSP Elite 4 in difficultly with viable items and movepools.
*Closing comment* : This series is sooo good! Huge fan of this concept and I really hope this breaks you out as a rising Pokemon UA-camr. Great quality, effort, researching and deep exploration, great paste in scripting and explanation, and videos with jammed amount of information in under 20 minutes is actually very surprising and refreshing. Keep going the great work! Fantastic content and cannot wait to see what other ideas you have in store in 2025!
Edit: Tried to make it more simple to read and format it better. I took so long writing this comment haha.
Thanks!! Glad y’all are getting invested!
I won’t lie, I’m really happy my teams worked out in the end since I chose Ninjask because it’s a Dark Type and I’m saving Unovan Pokemon for Janine.
That Speed Boost accident was great! 😂 I didn’t even know it had that in the bag but I’m glad I got lucky.
I’ll definitely keep the competitive side in mind from now on and I’ll think about the team balances too.
Thanks!!!
@ Oop-Ninjask is Bug/Flying type. But…(lemme save your blunder…uhm) a defensive Tera Dark, am I right? Can block Prankster users from affecting it and is a solid answer to Prankster Eviolite Murkrow with Haze. Removes its Flying weakness too. 👍 Yep.
Omg, I keep forgetting its not Dark 💀💀💀
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As soon as you said "ninja" i knew you would add grininja
I didnt, I added Greninja
You could defeat the invisible walls easily with a can of spray paint to mark all the walls.
😱 Are you a psychic type?
longer video are always welcome
My predictions from last time:
0: Zubat / Koffing / Grimer (2/3) - Venonat makes sense for type diversity and theming.
1: Golbat / Koffing / Arbok (0/3) - Damn, already 0/3 LOL
2: Golbat / Koffing / Beedrill / Arbok (3/4) - I do kinda think Nidorino is a bit boring for this guy. Writing this as I watch, I hope Arbok comes out a little bit, because I don't think any early Poison type looks as menacing/terrifying as Arbok, and it's not one we'll see again for awhile, probably.
3: Crobat / Weezing / Beedrill / Arbok (0/4) - I probably should've waited at least one more badge for Crobat and Weezing, but eh, I was having trouble scaling these up with the way I was laying out the teams. Victreebel makes sense for that type diversity and theming.
4: Crobat / Weezing / Beedrill / Muk / Arbok (3/5)
5: Crobat / Weezing / Venomoth / Muk / Ariados (3/5) - I was kinda hoping to see Ariados early just because it's such a mainstay for his later teams and I don't think it'll fit well on later teams due to how weak it is.
6: Crobat / Weezing / Venomoth / Muk / Arbok / Ariados (4/6) - Finally, Muk is here.
7: Crobat / Weezing / Nidoking / Muk / Tentacruel / Ariados (4/6) - If there's one thing I predicted well, it was Nidoking joining in for the final badge, lol
8: Crobat / Weezing / Forretress / Muk / Tentacruel / Ariados (3/6) - As a formal bug-type specialist, I respect the upgrade to Scizor over Forretress. I might've made this team too weak, lol. Now all the individual picks (and leave-outs) make sense in terms of future planning.
E4: Crobat / Beedrill-M / Drapion / Toxicroak / Tentacruel / Forretress (4/6) - Ninjask is such a weird Pokemon to me, like, in general, so I honestly didn't expect to see it make the team, but it's a cool choice.
CH: Crobat / Beedrill-M / Drapion / Toxicroak / Greninja / Weavile (4/6) - The Toxapex addition due to the medicine background is really cool, and it's a good pokemon to fit as a new poison type.
Overall: 55%. I definitely thought Venomoth and Victreebel we would see less of just because of their use on Janine (future) and Erika. I still would've liked to see Arbok and Ariados show up at least once, since I think Arbok is just too fitting for character and Ariados is so centric to Koga's existing teams. But I understand their reasons for exclusion. I think Muk should've also appeared just a little bit more, but I do understand the want/need for type diversity in an early Tentacruel and Victreebel.
I think the one balancing thing for these teams is that I don't feel like Victreebel and Koffing belong on the same balanced team (at 3 badges). I'd probably have replaced it for Beedrill on that specific team. Also, depending on exact level, Zubat might be too weak for 1 badge. I think Koffing, Golbat, and Beedrill or Nidorino would've been well suited for that team, since Koffing is still unevolved at that stage, while the other two are a bit more powerful.
The Nidorino choice makes a lot of sense after watching, since Nidorina will likely be used on Janine's team in parallel. I didn't expect to see Janine be next, I thought it was gonna be the 8 OG Kanto leaders first, lol
Actual teams for comparison:
0: Zubat / Venonat / Koffing
1: Zubat / Nidorino / Beedrill
2: Golbat / Nidorino / Koffing / Beedrill
3: Golbat / Victreebel / Koffing / Venomoth
4: Crobat / Victreebel / Weezing / Venomoth / Beedrill
5: Crobat / Victreebel / Weezing / Venomoth / Tentacruel
6: Crobat / Victreebel / Weezing / Venomoth / Tentacruel / Muk
7: Crobat / Victreebel / Weezing / Venomoth / Tentacruel / Nidoking
8: Crobat / Scizor / Weezing / Venomoth / Tentacruel / Nidoking
E4: Crobat / Scizor / Ninjask / BeedrillM / Tentacruel / Toxicroak
CH: Crobat / Scizor / Greninja / BeedrillM / Toxapex / Toxicroak
Nice guesses. A couple little things are that for the Gym Battles (not rematch), I like to keep it as close to their base region as much as possible, that’s why I didn’t include Ariados even if I should’ve.
Anything after that, I try to go sensibly creative with other regions and types as long as it makes sense, and the trainer keeps a clear showcase that they’re from their region with their team.
Also, you got me thinking, I probably should’ve included Muk more since I don’t know any trainers to use it.
I reckon for Sabrina, u give her Mega Alakazam for the first gym to warm up trainers and to make her champion team really difficult ( harder then volo ) we give her Abra
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Nah, for her champion team, we’ll use her as the pokemon
The Elite Four list is especially devuous since if Scizor has U-turn and Tentacruel has Flip Turn, they can hassle you with annoying switches, i.e. Scizor U-turn so your Fire type attack goes into Tentacruel instead.
Directly from my notes:
🌌Sabrina: Mega-Alakazam, Mr.Mime, Espeon, Jynx, Wobbuffet, Slowking.
Alakazam classic ace
Mr.Mime is a really known psychic type from Kanto, and i think is funny that she has one.
Espeon is the psy evolution from the kantonian pokemon Eevee (and fit so well, both are elegant and femenine)
Jynx, another psy kanto pokemon
Wobbuffet, i think she has one somewhere and they has an unique use kof psychic powers in pokemon
Slowking, johto is nearby and Slowpoke is from kanto, and fits kinda better than Slowbro
There’s good reasonings for her to have Mr Mime 👍
14:25 koga would absolutly poison every one with toxapex and look at his enemies slowly dying
The issue is that he's a Poison expert, and most Ninja mons aren't Poison types.
For gym battles, I'd go with:
>Crobat line
>Toxicroak line
>Ariados line
>Gengar line
>Dragalge line
>Galarian Slowking line
This team at any stage and level should allow koga to shine as a ninja. That said, he can still raise ninja mons like Greninja.
It’s funny when you remember that Koga also has a sister, named Aya. Kinda wished she got a mention or maybe be one of the Gym Trainers?
Only game characters atm
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I know, but I kinda meant for her to be mentioned in the games.
Yeaaahhh! Ninjask!
I am late today💀
I think either Mega Lopunny or Mega Medicham would be a good fit for Janine''s Mega evolution. Janine has a story involving the Fighting Dojo and the visual styles of these pokemon both fit with Janine's different outfits.
Idk, she’s still a Poison specialist.
Medicham’s appearance does fit tho
I think Toxapex is great!
I think the Alolan variant of Grimer/Muk would have been a good fit for his team.
LET HIM COOK 🔥🔥
i burned it ._.
@ U ATE
Great video as always i also liked how you showed team rockets pokemon as the bad ones at 4:35 but im confused why you didnt mention accelgor from unova its a bug type and he is based on a ninja
Totally by accident lmao, I just put them there for no reason
I do wish there were more mons to use in base games. Feel bad or the "type specialists" that can't represent there Types. Morty and Agatha to name a few
That’s why we gotta be creative 😈
I like how your non specialty additions to the teams make thematic sense, compared to some choices made in the actual games lol
SUP ADRIAN
Elo
11:49 why did you give him toxicroeck if Brock already has it. PS. Sorry i went back and look you said he has it in his hgss team
I think it’s fine if they both have it. It fits great with both for different reasons.
And we’ve got over a hundred trainers to cover, should be fine. 👍
This is definitely the strongest team you've made so far! But I rate it 0 stars because there was no Fred on his team!
😡 I hate Fred now
Jk, Thanks!
Aaaah... no minimize muk 😔
Good idea, I got another trainer I can give it to
@Atagu u gonna do all regions? 😍
Maybe 👀 but Muk might come a lot sooner than you think
Koga should have shedinja or ninjask
I would love to see ultimate teams for battle facilities (with everything: megas, legendarys, mithycs, etc)
Ya, they’re planned 👍
Idk if they should have legendaries though, apart from brando
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Hey Adrian! Just wanted to let you know that I follow you sincer you were like 60 subs, also you inspired me to start my own UA-cam Channel! I really like your content and thank you so much for inspiring me, also I want to offer myself to make you a custom PFP and channel Banner for free!
Thanks! Nice job making your channel.
And yo, that’d be amazing, I’ll take the offer 👍
@@Atagu I dmd you on TikTok, but since you don't follow me back you don't receive my messages
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No Minimize?
yet
Okay well since I was ignored in the comments for the Koga video you should give Janine an Overquill my logic is simple it's a puffer fish and puffer fish Venom is used by Ninja for quick kills but it actually works better because Koga comes from a long line of ninja so you could totally play it up as them breeding these rare variants to use in battle
That pufferfish venom idea is actually genius.
Thanks for the comment
9:49 Nidoking just doesn't work for Koga. It's too big/imposing for a ninja. Gengar is a better fit thematically. I know it's pretty overused in Kanto & elsewhere bc it was the only ghost type, but it really does fit. Other options for a 8th Badge fight include Scyther, Electrode (it's a bomb & a fast screens setter & Fuchsia gym has those invisible walls in it), Arbok, Hitmonlee, Machamp, Sandslash. If you open it up to Johto, Qwilfish is a definite Ninja pick as it's a mine, Forretress, Weavile, Gliscor (who has poison heal) & Ariados (albeit it's power level is rather low).
Also, without movesets/items, we can't judge your team competitively beyond the potential of each mon which can be very low like in LGPE or very high.
I still like the video otherwise tho
I Give Him Trevenant
The other side of the world is Brazil. Kanto is based in Japan.
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It's actually pronounced Julius Ceaser
So;
Ko = Julius
Ga = Caesar?
@Atagu no, the roman guy
Oh…
But it’s actually spelt Caesar
@Atagu I thought it Ceasar but auto correct said ceaser
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