Installing Spindle kit onto Onefinity Elite
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2023
- Do you have questions on how to install our PwnCNC Spindle kit onto your Onefinity Elite machine? Then you're in the right place.
In this video we walk through the process from start to finish. We'll even perform a test air carving to show how easy and simple this upgrade makes to your whole CNC workflow. - Наука та технологія
Thanks for your very informative and passionate presentation. From where I sit, your spindle kit looks like a lot of thought went into producing a top-shelf product.
There are hundreds of hours spent on the overall product and specifically the enclosure design. This enclosure has allowed us to extract every bit of functionality and thus give customers the best experience with our spindle systems.
Even our upgrade path to an ATC was thought hard on how to offer.
We believe in this community and invest in it.
You look like you are very passionate and care about your product. Happy to support and can't wait to get me spindle tomorrow. :-)
Just got my kit today! Thanks for the wild berry skittles 😀
Hi Daniel. Great video. I hope you're feeling better. 🙏🤞
Great info, Daniel!!
Thank you Daniel
Hi Daniel, thanks for the video. Is the Foreman Elite Masso controller 4 axis capable?
Hi there from down under I was wanting some help with lightburn have you done any tutorials on this thanks love your work
Always happy to see recent videos, this way you are sure they reflect the most recent version of a product.
I have 2 questions though, regarding the 2.2 80mm water cooled spindle kit:
1. It's not very clear to me if a pump is included or not. I saw an unboxing video which was posted roughly 1 year ago, which was showing a pump being included in the kit. But on the website, on the spindle kit page, under "What's not included" it says "Cooling pump available separately with choice of standard or clear flex tubing" ... Also, on my spindle kit I already chose "water cooling with silicone tubes". But now I am confused... if the kit doesn't include the pump, but only the tubing, and the pump needs to be purchased separately - which in turn has tubing selection mandatory, then I simply have twice the tubing (once selected on the spindle kit and then again with the pump)... right?
2. I'm in Europe, on 220V power outlets and EU standard power plugs. Do you automatically decide on what power outlets, plugs and voltage to support based on the shipping address? Because I haven't been asked this question at any point during the checkout process.
And another question regarding the v10 Dust Boot. I chose the 4" version. But if I would also want the option to sometimes use a 2.5" hose, would it be recommended (performance wise) to also get a separate 2.5" version of the Dust Boot or should I just get some sort of adapter from 4" to 2.5", and if so - could you recommend an adapter, I'm not 100% sure what to chose from the website - cnc newb here, just getting started?
Sorry for the long questions here, but I can't find a contact form or email on the website, only the possibility to create a support ticket. Maybe it's a language barrier, but to my understanding "support" refers to wether or not I have any functional issues with the product, and I don't even own the product yet, I've just ordered it recently.
A pump is not included (and will be listed separately in the shopping cart after answering the spindle kit questions)... but the overall kit was reduced in price to compensate for that. This allows folks to choose whichever cooling system they'd like to use. We've recently added the CW-3000 chiller to our site.. and that can be used instead of the pump.
Tubing and pump are considered the "cooling system". Answer the kit questions and hit add to cart... then examine your cart... it'll all make sense then.
All shipments are US plugs (support.pwncnc.com/kb/article/15-what-you-ll-need-to-power-your-2-2kw-220v-spindle-kit/). We do use standard C13 receiver ports on the VFD Enclosure allowing you to find a C13 to local plug style that your country uses.
We also have a limited number of 220v pumps available... although the chiller is exclusively 110v. Another reason the cooling system is optional. Plus we do sell the tubing by-the-foot so if you decide to use your own pump/chiller... tubing can be added to the order.
Considering performance, if you plan to use a 2.5" hose... we'd recommend going with the 2.5" boot. The entire boot size changes between 4" and 2.5". The much larger size would be a detriment to the performance when using a smaller hose.
Feel free to contact us at support@pwncnc.com and we can dig into each of these further.
I see you recommend the fein turbo 1 shopvac. With a shopvac having lower cfm than a dust collector does this shopvac take care of all the dust?
Hi Daniel, does the spindle need to be grounded? If so, I'd love to see a video showing the best way to do it as I'm not well versed yet on the electrical side of CNC machines.
No. We've worked with our manufacturer to ensure the 4th wire of the spindle motors are all properly grounded. We also use shielded wires to reduce any chance of EMI interference.
Does the package come with the small control box that I see mounted on the side of the masso screen ?
Good video, for you which would be better, the Onefinity or the X-Carve
Onefinity hands down. That said i only have experience with the older/standard X-Carve. I haven't used their new X-Carve Pro machine... but seriously looking into it.
Can you talk about rigid tapping with this spindle
I have the 1.5kW air cooled spindle, and I am setting it up. What is the recommended mounting height of the heave duty Z-slider?
I typically mount the spindle so there's 2-3" of the main spindle body poking out the bottom of the spindle mount.
The idea is to have the bottom of the spindle collet nut above the bottom of the X/Z carriage by a 1-2". This way you can maximize the amount of Z capacity your machine has.
Hello there. Could give the the distance you use from Spindle Mount to top of the black end cap on 80mm spindle tube. I have the Foreman model. I need to install my pwncnc v10 dust boot. I'm still laying out and drilling holes for spoiler board right now. I'm not up and running all the way yet. I have the Pwncnc 80 mm spindle. Thank you.
Hello Scott, What i like to do is ensure the collet nut is just above the bottom of the Z carriage. Typically 1-2" above the bottom to allow for a standard size router bit. Doing this will maximize the amount of Z-capacity your machine gives you. This is different between machines. Both my 1f's are at the warehouse... off for the weekend ;-)
I was interested in this CNC for both designs and surfacing slabs. I was wondering about the height between the top and the bars or spindle. Is that height adjustable? Or is it set right where it’s at permanently? Would I be able to surface a 4” or a 5” thick piece of wood, or slab?
The Onefinity is very customizable. Although the machine's Z travel is limited, you can raise the entire machines at the four corners using pads (pwncnc.com/products/onefinity-foot-pads) like these. This way if you're surfacing a 10" log, you can go down into that 10" (or bigger) log as deep as 6" if necessary.
In the video my machine is mounted to their optional QCW table. Most folks don't opt for that instead building a custom machine bed to suite their particular needs. Some have even gotten fancy and designed beds with a fold-down 90deg bend that allows for joinery carving.
Daniel, do you use a break resistor to stop the spindle? Is there a manual override to energize the vac? And finally can we turn on the water cooler with the same Ortega?
Irt that is?
There is two currently unexposed pins inside the VFD Enclosure that'll let you install a braking resistor, more on that to come later this year.
The Manual Override switch on the VFD allows you to manually control the spindle separately from the CNC controller. This is good for surfacing operations where you'd like to jog the spindle around yourself running a carve... or if you're wanting to use the spindle like a simple palm router... run/stop and rpm controlled from the VFD's keypad.
There are many folks who use the IoT power strip to automatically turn on their cooling pump.
@@PwnCNC thanks for the prompt reply. Am I getting the 2.2 220 volt water cooled in the batch that’s going out soon?
@@philjacobus5715 Yes indeed. We have a whole lot of stock... and working extra hours this weekend to try and get everyone their spindle kits as soon as possible.
I'm expecting your kit to go out towards end of next week.
I just received my Onefinity Elite and my PWN water-cooled spindle. A couple quick questions: I ordered the spindle for the Masso controller, do I need to input any settings? And what do you recommend for coolant?
We have a quick-start instructions available here: support.pwncnc.com/kb/article/113-onefinity-elite-masso/
As far as coolant, I use straight window-washer fluid... without any issues in my conditioned garage. Some folks further north have needed something stronger so a 1-3 mix of antifreeze to distilled water is good. We go into more details within the manual included with your spindle kit shipment.
I opened my box so fast I did not remember a manual. It’s been about 4 weeks or more waiting for my upgrade package(woodworker to Elite woodworker withe new feet that have access holes to motor coupling. The pwncnc system seems very Easy to install. I also got the v10 dust boot. What is not clear and I have yet to find any video on subject is how and we’re to mount the vfd and how high or what holes to put the z axis in plus how to determine from that point how high to mount the spindle in the spindle mount. I also have the QCW and stand so my set up is like what you had in this video other than you did not mount the 2.2 water cooled spindle.
I have an early version of the vfd and 2.2 water-cooled spindle… are the earlier versions compatible with the masso?
Yes, the VFD itself is fully capable of both Modbus and PWM control. PWM being the control mechanism used by Masso.
The enclosure wiring is the question. You may consider upgrading to our v5 enclosure, but reach out to us at support@pwncnc.com and we can dig into exactly how we can get you up and running with the Masso controller.
What is the tolerance (i.e., percent deviation / accuracy) of the 10 VDC power supply used to control spindle RPM? Can an end user groom the provided power supply output to ensure proper range from 0 VDC to 10 VDC? If not, I could plan on incorporating a higher quality power supply from Acopian.
The 0-10v power is supplied by the Masso G3 contained within the Masso Touch controller. This analog signal is sent to the VFD to control the RPMs of the motor. I don't know if it is replaceable. I would definitely like to know if there was some circuit that could achieve this but also tweak the voltage such that set-points could be made in order to provide a more accurate relationship between the voltage point and the RPMs.
How do I get that little control pad thingy? I bought the 2.2kw water cooled kit and it didn’t come with that.
This feature is available in 2 parts... the first part is the actual mount (pwncnc.com/products/vfd-keypad-mount) which maker files are available. the second part is a cat5 computer networking cable. You can get them anywhere but we do have fancy yellow/black ones here: pwncnc.com/products/vfd-keypad-extension-cable
@@PwnCNCThat first link doesn’t work. I get a 404 error. Is it a physical product or just a file for 3D printers? I don’t have a 3D printer.
@@TerrapinCreations666 both links are to the printed product. I suspect the url is getting messed up when clicking it so you might either type it in or on our website search for "VFD Keypad Mount" and it'll be one of the top results. On the mount page at the bottom is a link to the related extension cable.
n setting mine up over the past week I was following your instructions setting up the spindle and seen that your using a controller that attaches to the masso....was this an additional buy because mine didnt come with one
Yes that is in addition to VFD. It is a remote keypad mount for the VFD and available here. pwncnc.com/products/vfd-keypad-mount?_pos=1&_psq=masso&_ss=e&_v=1.0&variant=41515891327115
You can mount it to the Masso, surface mount, or recessed. You chose which style you want from the product page. Thanks!
Are these woodworking spindles like this 80mm ER20 air cooled option, 8000-24000 rpm or 0-24000rpm?
These are 2-pole woodworking spindles yup. The usable RPM's are 6000 to 8000 up to 24000rpms... but we don't lock our VFD down... you could run it below that... although there likely won't be enough torque to do anything useful with them at such low speeds.
How much different are the 220v models when it comes to wiring?
no difference. They'll have a 220v plug instead of the 110v plug... other than that the wiring is the same. support.pwncnc.com/kb/article/15-what-you-ll-need-to-power-your-2-2kw-220v-spindle-kit/
Hey brother do u have a wiring diagram on building a controller.. I bought a mill and got 2 free cncs he built a controller but didn't finish it.. Also do u make a spindle kit for my midnight XL
I have a ton of info in our kb: support.pwncnc.com/kb/section/8/
I’m still finding the best way to organize it so it’s most useful, but I do have wiring diagrams and such here which would apply to you.
Reach out to us at support@pwncnc.com with details and maybe pics and we can help you sort it out.
Hello, I would like to know, which would be better water or air cooling in a ELITE Series Foreman?
This is more of a personal preference and greatly depends on what you're planning to cut. Checkout this article for more info: support.pwncnc.com/kb/article/63-cooling-options/
Which VFD keypad are you using?
The keypad is built into our Delixi vfd and is removable. a simple computer networking cable is required so you can relocate the vfd's keypad.
Where or how high/low should I mount the spindle on the z-20 slider?
I like to raise the Z carriage up all the way, then with a bit-installed into my spindle, lower the spindle until the tip of the bit is at the bottom of the z carriage, then tighten the spindle into place.
This way the maximum amount of Z capacity is available for your carving.
Does this work with the Longmill?
Yes absolutely. With Longmill customers they’ll bet a digital PWM converter as part of their control cable. This lets the LongBoard control the spindle’s rpm’s.
I recently put my MK2 together and working on a series of videos demoing installation and operation.
I am with you up until you set the Masso F2 screen to Spindle CW. The 0.0 stays blinking. And I have s3000 set in the MDI command - but the spindle never spins up.
It works in manual mode.
I'm having the same problem. Spindle works in manual mode. Masso controller seems to accept the MDI commands....but the sprindle won't spin up
@@jdelehanty25definitely email their support.
how about 220 2.2 kw unit does this come with a power connector for 220 v?
Hello @philjacobus860, yes absolutely. Our 220v and 110v spindle kits come completely plug-n-play. This video describes the whole thing, and only difference with 220v and this video is the Motor, VFD, and type of power cord it comes.
support.pwncnc.com/kb/article/15-what-you-ll-need-to-power-your-2-2kw-220v-spindle-kit/
@@PwnCNC Daniel, did my money orders arrive?
@@philjacobus5715 Not yet... keeping my eye out for it though.
I order my Elite Onefinity online and have asked repeatedly for a phone number to ask a few questions and also to get the 80m spindle which (does it come with the unit or order separately and I could not locate where? Would someone respond and allow me the opt to call after I've already spent 5 grand>
Hi there do you ship to Europe ?
Yes, shipping to Europe is available through our website.
Well at least I have the video to install it. Now if I can just get my spindle delivered that I ordered in March, I'd be set. 😞
At the beginning of the year we've had such overwhelming support from the community and we're having a few growing pains. Of course customs/import issues don't help considering our budgets.
In the next few weeks we're expecting more than 88 2.2kw water-cooled motors and nearly 225 motors in all before end of the month.
We're investing all profits right back into stock. We're so thankful for everyone ordering and really appreciate everyone's patience as we smooth out and grow.
@@PwnCNC well today is the day, it's out for delivery! I just want to commend Daniel for how he handled delays with my order and others as well. Other business owners need to care about customers as Daniel has demonstrated. Thanks, Daniel!
will this cut 1/4'' aluminum ?
Oh yes, easily. These woodworking spindles are capable of aluminum carving. We also offer metal-working spindles cable of carving mild steel if that's needed.
Is there a chance for me to get a discount?
Followed this to the letter for but when I enter the g-code commands (ie s5000) into the media window, nothing happens.
Reach out to us at support@pwncnc.com for official support... happy to help.
You make this too confusing because you don't explain what buttons you are pushing on the VFD. I followed it, but my kit did not come with the 6-prong control cable that plugs into the MASSO, so I am already dead in the water.
There was a mistake in gathering the parts for several of our ATC customers. Please reach out to support@pwncnc.com and we'll get the correct 6-pin VFD control cable shipped to you asap.
They only thing weak on the one finity is the Z. The rails are crazy strong! The Z has 4 screws that hold it and that's just not strong enough. 😢
Genuinely asking here, have you broken those screws?
@@joshyingling I have not.
@@joshyingling do you know what rigidity means? 4 screws are not nearly enough.
@@JF32304 as an aircraft mechanic, i understand the power of fine thread screws just fine, they input 10,000# of clamping force. So 4 screws for sure can be enough. What is the screws intended work load and tasks? Also if you just take a moment to think that a company that is growing and selling cnc machines as its business, you don’t think engineers were consulted in some form of the design process? And those engineers said this is more than enough for this machine rated capacities?
@@joshyingling you honestly think 4 screws is enough clamping force for rigidity? Then I honestly don't want to fly on anything you've serviced. I highly doubt engineers were brought in on a consulting basis to look things over. If they were, they're wrong. The Z needs rails. Go and have a look at Langmuir systems and their MR1 that machine is doing stainless, titanium, inconel. It baffles me that you're an aircraft mechanic and say 4 screws is enough. 😳