Onefinity CNC Review Elite Foreman
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
- In this episode, I'll be doing a review of my newest Onefinity CNC machine, the Elite series Foreman. I've had three versions of the Onefinity brand CNC machines, and this is the biggest one yet!
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The wires are already fed through the drag chains because they actually assemble and test each machine before shipping them out, which is awesome.
Great point!
Great Job JR. Thanks for doing the review. Can't wait to get min up and running :)
Thanks for the review of the Onefinity Elite Foreman. I am a CNC machinist who has programed and ran CNC equipment for 35+ yrs and I am about to retire. I love the CNC machining and recently started to do wood working. I want to get into the woodworking craft once I retire for a little side income since I enjoy my field so much. I looked at many of the machines out there but this oneinfinity has really caught my attention. I have watched many reviews of the various name brands out there but this may be the one I get for just the reasons I know is true. You need a rigid machine to perform smoothly and accurately over the long term. The controller of this machine is more like the ones I use in a CNC machine shop so I will have no problem using it. This machine is at the top of my list for the one to buy if you want to make a business out of woodworking craft. There are tons of projects out there that will sell very well that can be batched out on this machine. Size does mater and a 4x4 machine has the capability to save time and money in the long run. I think the next best machine out there is the Shapeoko 5 Pro 4x4. Its more for the newbie person who wants to get into CNC machining but never ran or programed a CNC before.
Cheers Enjoy your Life to the end. Joe
Thanks, and I'm glad it was helpful info. I have another video where I did a review of my first Onefinity CNC, with the original (less capable) controller where I shared the research I did, and what was important to me in selecting this machine, which comes down to rigidity and no belts or V Wheels. I invite you to subscribe while you're here if you like!
Great coverage of the system, thank you for making this!
Hi John, my pleasure. Feel free to subscribe if you like while you’re here. It’d be a good way to keep up with future videos, search my library and would help my channel grow. Thanks again for watching and your note!
Thanks for posting. Very good video. I have the same machine on order and can't wait for it to come. Will have to live vicariously through your video for another couple months.
Hey Theon, you’re going to live it when it arrives! Thanks for watching and your note. Consider subscribing as more will be coming! Thanks!
Great video, thank you. It is so great to see the 1F evolving forward for the maker community. Happy carving JR, and great review!
Thanks for watching and your comment Douglas. This new controller is a much better match in terms of quality, to the mechanical portion of this machine. Thanks!
Thanks for another great video! Please keep them coming, your content has become some of my favorite, and I spend a lot of time researching my interests on UA-cam.
Hey Ron, that’s really nice to say. I try to just be straightforward and share the little bit that I’ve learned along the way. Thanks for watching and leaving that note!
Hey JR, hope your doing well! Love your walk through and the awesome detail you provided, well done, thanks!
Thanks Keith, hope you're doing great!
You do not waste time and I appreciate you for that.
Thanks Educe, I try to just get right to it where I can! Consider subscribing while you’re here, there’s more to come.
As a retired CNC machinist, you are right on about all aspects of CNC machining. My machine weighed 65,000 pounds and had a five inch diameter spindle, and I would still end up with chatter at times, so it is all relative. I love being retired but miss CNC work, so I am really taking a good look at these (Onefinity) machines. Just need to come up with a plan to sell the wife on it! 🙂
Hi Ron, thanks for checking it out. I’ve really liked all versions of the onefinity. Machine robustness was my #1 consideration. Sounds like you’ve worked on some large format machines. Good luck with your discussion with the boss! Feel free to subscribe while you’re here if you like!
Similar situation...
Thanks for this detailed video as I am researching all aspects for a purchase. You are a great narrator with a detailed and slow explanation for the newbie! Subscriber for life now
Hi Justin, glad it was helpful! I had a lot of questions a couple years ago when I started with my first @onefinity. Hit me up here or on instagram if I can ever help. Have a great day!
Well thank you for that@@TradeSkillersAnonymous
Ditto, great video. Just placed my order so I have a bit of a wait to deal with. But plenty of time to get organized and get as much knowledge into my head as possible before it arrives.
Thanks for watching and your comment, hope your wait time flies by!
Took me all day to be able to watch it all but it was worth it. Good video JR. Nice machine.
thanks Ryan, hope you're doing great!
Great work as always, JR!
Thanks brother!
Thanks for the review, ill definitely be getting that one over other machines.
You're welcome, glad it was helpful! Hit me up with any questions if you like. Also while you're here I'd invite you to consider subscribing if you would. Thanks and have a great day!
Great Review JR. We can't wait to see what you make! BTW, we've improved the touch probe cable to be less prone to breaking!
Keep up the great work guys!
Also, smash that subscribe button!!
Fantastic video! I have a shapeoko 4XXL right now but as my business grows I am looking at possibly adding this machine. Thanks for sharing such a detailed review! I run a lot of hardwoods and would like to be able to run faster for sure. The extra size would be nice too, throwing half a sheet in the machine at once sounds pretty nice!
Hi Sean, the onefinity line up is a really rigid design. I have an older video where I reviewed my first onefinity and shared some research I did while I was making my decision on which CNC would be right for me. It really came down to the ball screws, linear rails. I revisited friends I’ve made that have less rigid machines, and where they might run at 80ipm to be sure not to exceed the frame of their machines, I run that same job at 200+ without issue. If you care to, I invite you to subscribe while you’re here, there will be more to come and also have a look at some of my older videos, you might like them too. Thanks and have a great day!
Will do I like your style. Looking forward to more videos!
Great video J.R. That's a really slick setup by Onefinity. 👍🏻
Thanks Dave, hope you’re doing great!
Great video and review JR. Dammit, stop spending my money!
Seriously, your previous video on the OneFinity caused me to pony up for a OneFinity Journeyman. Looking forward to the next video.
I should’ve apologized in advance to your wallet!
Great vid. Really liked the way you compared/contrasted the Onefinity CNCs you had.
Hey, thanks! Wasn’t sure how to best show the size differences. Thanks for checking it out, and if you like, feel free to subscribe while you’re here. Have a great day!
@@TradeSkillersAnonymous Sorry if you mentioned this in your previous vids, but did you trade in your original OneFinity?
@@rrr92462 I'm not sure if I did mention it. I did the upgrade program from the wood worker to the journeyman. Bought the elite foreman separately. The original upgraded woodworker/journeyman was sold to another person after the Elite arrived.
Great overview!
Thanks, consider subscribing while you're here so you don't miss future videos.
On order since late December, I'm expecting my Foreman in 4-5 weeks. I'm sure it'll be worth the wait. Thanks for the overview of your machine.
Hey James, my pleasure, thanks for watching and leaving a note.
I'd invite you to subscribe while your here if you like. More coming soon!
Did you get it
@@DRMadeIt I did.
@@James01520 how do you like it
Cheap and easy fix for pulling on the wire. Just super glue something light like a bread tie to the magnet case, then you got a light weight handle to pull on, and no loss if it breaks down the road.
Great idea!
Wow, This video changes my mind about the buying the Shapeoko 5 pro. I'll have to give this serious consideration
I had considered the shapeoko when I was doing my research, and their machines have changed over time I’m sure, but this link below was my base review of the first onefinity I ran.
Onefinity CNC Review
ua-cam.com/video/YqwFVmFT4CE/v-deo.html
Thanks for coming by and I invite you to subscribe while you’re here!
Great Job and Thank you!
Thanks Gary!
Great video packed with practical information! I'm was saving up to get the latest version from Onefinity just before the Elite series came out. Now I'm not sure if I should upgrade. The wait time is crazy long (>4-6 months last time i checked). I'm a beginner to CNC but I hope to do use it mainly for smaller aluminum parts. Speed isn't really a concern but rigidity is.
Hi Dave, thanks for watching and your note. Rigidity is everything, and this line of machine has that and more. The original machine with the buildbotics controller never let me down. This version with the Masso is just more “controller capable”. The architecture of either machines hardware are the same. Consider subscribing while you’re here to see more!
@@TradeSkillersAnonymous Thanks for the reply! Took note of your comments on the new Masso controller and it's probably a better idea to start with the previous version seeing I am a rookie. Already subscibed!
Thank you - I am just getting ready to buy one. I am probably where you were with your first - if you don’t mind my asking what are some of your larger project? Great video - thank you
Hi Chad, I’ve made furniture panels, think nightstand sides, full upper cabinet carcasses and more, just haven’t had time to video document some of those. Incorporating video into actual doing work really slows down the process and I’ve been short on time recently. Consider subscribing if you like, there’s more to come!
Nice explanation and I’m jealous of that machine… although I am also intimidated
Love the added size, user interface definitely different but once you’re in it, it’s no big deal. I see all the machines you run, it wouldn’t be a thing.
@@TradeSkillersAnonymous I didn’t know how small mine was until I saw yours’. Lol
Awesome video! I'd love to hear more about how the QCW fixed legs are working for you. Do you experience a lot of wobble? Is it coplanar enough? Is there deflection in the center? Did you stabilize it with any brackets? Thanks!
Hey there. The legs work just fine, sturdy enough for the task for sure. There is some shake at max travel, but isn't enough to translate to the part as the gantry and bed are in unison, just leg minimal flex. No real bed flex unless you lean your body weight on it during a cut, the bed will flex just slightly, but no reason to be leaning on the work area during ops. I did not stabilize it, as I don't think it needs any stiffening. All that said, if I had it to do over again, I'd probably do a torsion box, mostly because Im a big fan of them.
Thank you this is super helpful!
Great video! I’m looking to buy my first CNC for a side hustle that could turn into something bigger. I’m between 1F and Shapeoko, but def leaning toward the 1F.
My biggest concern is will the 1F be harder for a newcomer to figure out than the Shapeoko?
The first week is where 90% of the learning lives. If I were buying one today, I’d get the size I wanted powered by the masso.
That was a great review. Thanks. You didn't mention what your total outlay for it was. Would you share that? I'm brand spanking new to this part of our addiction, I mean hobby. Would you recommend this to a newbie? I believe in the "buy once, cry once" philosophy, so I'm wondering should I just splurge now or start small. Thanks.
Hi there, thanks for watching! You're right I didn't get into pricing strictly because I wanted to show my machine progression from the original to the current one. In retrospect maybe I should have, thanks for that input. The machine I have, (Elite Foreman) comes in just short of $4k, before bits, router or spindle and dust collection. Everyone's approach to those topics is different and so is the cost, but like you I would rather tear the band aid off once and get the best machine I can. To your question, starting small (in my experience) just leads to frustration, limitations and usually regret. You get into it, decide you should've just taken the plunge, and you've got the first machine to sell, and presumably take a hair cut on. If it's in your means to do so, just dive in, and buy the machine that you won't regret later in my opinion!
Thanks again for watching, and I'd invite you to subscribe while you're here. More videos coming soon!
I agree that the 1F fights above it's weight class. I too have an Elite Foreman coming, is currently having an 2.2 Kw spindle and an ATC mated to it. In my opinion this machine may compare favorably to an Avid.
I am currently taking a class at a community college on CNC operation (free tuition if 60 or over !) and yes, the new controller is more like a Haas than the Buildbotics (which I too enjoyed, did everything I needed it too).
As my daughter would say, time to put the big boy pants on.
Hi Carl, very well said! Thanks for watching and please feel free to subscribe. More coming soon!
How did you get a ATC mated to the Onefinity Foreman 4x4 ?
Thier website doesn't show any ATC at all.
@@Boxboys.Audio.Sound.Solutions Yup not yet, mine is SN: 000001. They have to remake the Z slider to hold the spindle, then work with the Masso controller. Give them a few weeks.
@@Boxboys.Audio.Sound.Solutions I haven’t done that. Heavy mods needed but I have seen it on UA-cam and or the onefinity Facebook group
I'm really on the fence on which one to go with. I"m currently in the market for one and I've looked at Onefinity, Stepcraft, Shapeoko, X-Carve but this one is the one I keep coming back to look for reviews. Have you own other brands? If so, which one do you feel the most satisfied with? Thanks for the video and look forward to possibly joining the CNC family soon. May be even the Onefinity :) Cheers and thanks again! 🍻
Hi Nappy,
I have not owned any other machines, but researched like crazy before deciding. I have another video where I reviewed my first Onefinity, and talked in more detail in that video about the research I did, and what was important to me. Not having a controller that required a PC to be connected to ti, or internet connection requirement along with ball screws and linear bearings versus V Belts and wheels. How you use the machine (size) will be important to consider, but rigidity is critical, and it's been my experience with this machine's physical construction and design that has surpassed my expectations (along with have ball screws and linear bearings).
Thanks for watching, and commenting, I hope this was helpful. Have a great day!
Great information on your video..
I just have a question about your Infinity..
What type of stand are you using?
Thank you!
Hi Rick, this time I’m using the onefinity QCW fixed leg stand. Previously I made a torsion box and enclosure. If you’d consider subscribing while your here that’d be great. Previous machine reviews and table/enclosure builds also on my channel. Thanks!
@@TradeSkillersAnonymous i certainly will..
Thank you..
does the 80mm spindle you have run on 220v and is it water cooled? I do not see the tubes coming out for water cooled but thought the 80mm onefinity offered was water cooled, is there a none-water cooled option and which would you recommend? Do you have the spindle & controller on separate circuits? If not does electrical noise from the spindle interfere with the controller at all?
Hi Nicholas, my spindle is a 220v, 2.2 kw air cooled. Since I don’t cut metal, I don’t need the lower rpm that water cooled offers, and since that’s the case, it’s a cleaner install to not have the cooling system and tubes etc. Soondle is on a different circuit than the controller (220 vs 110). I use continuous motion double shielded spindle wiring and don’t have any EMI
I've been REALLY wanting a CNC.. was leaning for a bit higher end machine originally.. and am only a hobbyist.. but felt like the 1F as cool as it is.. might not be stiff enough to do thin aluminum, but also wanted a 4'x4' or 5'x5' capable width/size. If I had the room I'd love a solid 5x10 just to have the room for a 4x8 sheet + extra. Anyway.. this new upgrade looks amazing. Is it stiff enough to handle faster cutting speeds (the top of the line 4x4 option)? What sort of bench/bed to you put it on to ensure its stiff enough to handle the spindle and faster cutting speeds? I would love a fold up option to store it out of the way.. but I suspect that limits the ability for it to be stiff enough for faster cutting and metal cutting capabilities?
Hi Kevin,
Id tell you that I would have no reservation milling aluminum with this machine. I don't happen to work with aluminum but the thing that has consistently impressed me with every Onefinity variant that I've had is the rigidity of the frame. I regularly run surfacing passes at 400IPM in hardwoods, and it's normal for me to do milling operations with 1.4" end mills at 1/4 to 1/2" depth of cuts between 150 and 250 IPM depending on the wood I'm working with.
The journeyman can (I beleive) use a folding stand that Onefinity sells, but the Foreman size is just too big and heavy to be flipping around on a portable stand. You could probably build something that would be stout enough, but it's a heavy machine. I wouldn't want to be manipulating it manually.
I mounted my Foreman on their QCW Frame, but if I had it to do again, I'd pronbably mount it on a torsion box. Nothing wrong with the frame, I just prefer torsion boxes.
@@TradeSkillersAnonymous Thank you for reply. Very good info. Looks like the one to get.. especially for me being a hobbyist.. I basically want to mill some aluminum parts for things like drones, 3d printers (instead of ABS), etc. Interesting about torsion box. Would the one this guy builds work for the Elite? ua-cam.com/video/9BAFdmn5Amw/v-deo.html
@@b3owu1f haven’t got the time to watch it at the moment, but there are many torsion box videos out there. I’ve also got one that I made for my journeyman. ua-cam.com/video/zk0B3R5zj04/v-deo.html
Great video, are the x and y rails also 50mm as well as the z rail ?
Yes they are. Thanks for checking it out, and I'd invite you to subscribe while you're here! Thanks and have a great day
Good information. Would like to hear your thoughts on air cooled spindle and how is the QCW frame working for you? I have your setup on order with hopes of shipment July/August time frame.
Hey Britney, thanks for watching and your note. Air or water cooled primarily comes down to what you're going to be working on in my opinion. Adding water cooling adds some extra bits obviously, pump, tank, lines etc. The primary difference between the two comes down to an air cooled spindle not being able to spin at less than 7 or 8000 RPM, because the air cooling fan is integral to the spindle, and if the fan spins any lower than 7k RPM, it won't cool itself enough and will over heat. Most wood projects are cut well above 10K RPM, so if you're only ever going to work with wood, Air will work just fine and you don't need all the extra components or worry with water cooled. Now, if you are planning on cutting metals, even aluminum, you should really use water cooled. Machining metal requires a much lower spindle RPM and as a result, you really have to use water cooled. Since I only work with wood, I went with air cooled and don't have to be concerned with the extra bits or the potential for any water leaks. Hope that helps!
@@TradeSkillersAnonymous And how is the QCW table working out? I heard there was some flex in the middle. Also, noticed they send some feet for the OF if you were to place on a table. Was curious if they still work on the QCW for a little more height. I make spice bowls and some deep well items, so every inch counts. Thank you for your insight
Hah, forgot your QCW question. Yes, it will flex if you as an example, lean on the center of the machine while it's cutting, you can actually hear it as the table flexes down, the cut lightens up. If I had to do it again, I'd probably not do the QCW, and go with a torsion box. The machine did come with some feet that elevates it from a standard work table but Im not sure if you can use those in conjunction with the QCW.
Great video! I am seriously considering adding a cnc to my shop but have worries due to my shop is not climate controlled and is not insulated. Any thoughts on that?
Have numerous contacts operating in the dead heat of Arizona with no climate control, she’s fine in the heat. The controller does not like temps below 40 degrees Fahrenheit. You can (if it’s cold at times where you are), take the controller inside your home. Some people do that.
What did you do with the two older machines? My wife says I can get the Elite Forman but I have to find a home for (Sell) other one!
I listed and sold mine in the onefinity Facebook group a couple weeks before the elite arrived.
i reved the magnet on the touch plate prob wire and tied a knot in the cord for stain relief
Thats a great idea! Thanks for sharing it
Can you do a video of how the upgrade from a regular router to the spindle you have and where to buy it ?
Yes I've got plans to do just that, subscribe and hit the bell notification so you dont miss it, if you like. Thanks again!
I see you have iVac switch box. Are you using it to triggger a 240v dust collector when the VFD is turned on?
Hi Mike, my vfd doesn’t have an on/off switch for mains power, so I added that Ivac switch as a way to power the vfd on and off with the remote. I invite you to subscribe while you’re here if you like. It’s free and will help my channel reach more people. Thanks and have a great day!
@@TradeSkillersAnonymous I've been subscribed for while now. I really enjoy your content. The reason I asked about the iVac is that I have various iVAC sensors and blast gates to turn on my dust collector and open the gates automatically when I turn on a machine. Very handy. I added an iVAC sensor on my spindle cable so my 240V dust collector turns on automatically when my spindle reaches about 1000RPM. I wasn't sure it would work with the shielded spindle cable so I was very pleased when it did. I couldn't find anything on UA-cam or CNC forums about using iVAC until I saw yours in the background.
Hello my friend. Thank you for the great, informative video. I hope you will answer a couple questions. I have wanted a cnc router for some time. Also want laser cutter/engraver later on. If you keep your machine running, how often can you plan on dulling your bits and changing them? Also can you sharpen your own bits? You seem to really know what you are doing. Could you make a living with a machine like this if you do take the time to learn it? Thank you so much and again a great video!! GOD bless my friend!!
Hi Rob, thanks for viewing and commenting! Bits will last longer than you think they might, so long as you don’t overheat them by using the wrong speeds and feeds. As an example, if you run your router at too high a speed, it will cause it to become hot. Hot cutters wear significantly faster, reducing their life. Two flute cutters can’t reasonably be sharpened. I believe a person could make a living using a machine like this, but depends greatly on demand in your area, products you choose to make etc. there are many videos that explain CNC router feeds and speeds here on UA-cam. Best wishes!
@@TradeSkillersAnonymous Thank you so much my friend. Best wishes to you.
If I'm new (first CNC), is the advanced software, (without warnings), you talked about a concern I should consider?
Hi Ken, short answer is no. It’s all going to be new to you, so just pay attention to the details and go at your pace. I think what I was trying to point out and may not have done a good job of, is that if you first learned on a different controller that had a lot of beginner level bits in the interface, it might lull you into complacency with this controller. I believe it’d be best to use this masso controlled version first. If you ever used a more simple controller in the future, you’d probably view that controller as bothersome with its pedestrian level warnings.
@@TradeSkillersAnonymous Thank you.
Hi, so this machine cutting area is X & Y = 48", what about Z? I saw other hobby CNC's Z can have 180mm ( 7")
5 1/4” z. Thanks for checking out the video, feel free to subscribe while you’re here if you like, it’d help me grow the channel and would be appreciated!
Do you think this machine is overkill for a novice buying his 1st machine? or worth it to spend a little more to get a better machine? I've been looking at the shapeoko.
As a beginner to Cnc a few years ago, I determined that I didn’t want find myself guessing if my startup results were me, the machine or my learning curve with designing. The best way to avoid one variable was to get (in my mind) the best machine I could. The mechanicals of this machine are very robust. There’s no flex, give or question that the machine will do what I tell it to do. All that to say, I whole heartedly recommend this machine and I don’t think it’s overkill. Hope this helps.
Can one use Easel with this machine?
Yes you can
I have no experience with a CNC machine. I am thinking about acquiring a CNC machine. Do you have any recommendations for a newbie to get into using/acquiring a CNC machine?
Tell me a little about how you plan to bring a Cnc into your workflow, what will you be doing with it?
I have no direct ties with onefinity, but after a lot of research they were my pick and they’ve been great machines.
I want to use it primarily for woodworking. I hope to replace much of the need for a bandsaw to produce better wood pieces. I also want to make signs using 3D capabilities.
I have another video, one of my first that was pretty popular where I talk about the selection process that I went through when making the same decision you are. I talk about what I wanted, and what I didn’t want and why I chose a onefinity. I’ll find a link and out it here. It might help.
Have a look at this video Michael, let me know if you have questions.
Onefinity CNC Review
ua-cam.com/video/YqwFVmFT4CE/v-deo.html
Will this run the v- crave software?
Yes, it will take the code that vectric vcarve produces. Just select the right post processor in vectric
Thank you!!!!!
What size is your table?
I use the QCW table from Onefinity. Dimensions I believe are on their site. Thanks!
what legs do you have on the elite?
I have the fixed leg, QCW attach from beneath arrangement.