Lars, thanks for this tutorial on OF Elite maintenance. I have dreaded removing my Z slider because I do not want to tram it again. Used a framing square and got it perfect, guess I need to remove and clean.
I have not and never will use oil on any of my CNC machines! I have always used a teflon spray from DuPont. It is in an alcohol carrier and leaves a DRY teflon coating after the alcohol evaporates. Being dry, it doesn’t collect saw dust or metal shavings. I reapply daily which is probably over hill, but I’ve never had a problem because of bearings or wear on the ball screw.
@@LarsWorkShop I know what you’re saying - I’m not trying to be critical but I found the hard way how many problems oil can cause. I don’t have a Onefinity machine yet. That procedure is not one for the lazy. The teflon spray lubricant is so easy and effective.
I wonder if there’s room to put oiler tubes so that you don’t have to disassemble the Z gantry. Maybe something 3d printed with small id (1/8” or smaller) tygon tubing connected to it.
Thanks for this video, Lars - I am just getting to using my machine, and I have wondered about all of this sort of thing. I am cutting Baltic birch and it seems to particles are a bit larger than with some other materials, so hopefully most of them are staying out of the bearings/ball screws?
Neil, Glad it was helpful, it is primarily the dust you need to worry about. the oil ports are pretty easy to do - except the x-Axis. I have run mine a lot, and keep it clean after each run, I am sure you are doing the same, so I just keep the oil ports filled and check the ball screw on the z every quarter.
Thanks Lars! Are you bothering with a complete tramming of your machine? I saw you using a square, but noting for front to back? Seems like a hassle if you have to completely remove the z once a month.
I test the tram left and right then front to back and have never had my front to back out of tram. Left to right is out because of removing the z gantry. I checked the front and back when I moved the y-axis away from me - right after checking the left and right. It is surely a hassle, this is why I keep everything as clean as I can. Thanks for the comment Tom!
I don’t know how many maintenance jobs one of those oil cans will last… I just ordered 5 cans, hope I’m covered for plenty of future maintenances and the oil doesn’t have an expiration date 😁 P.S. I’ve also ordered one in the form of a spray, same brand 3 in 1, still called “multi purpose oil”, not sure what’s the difference… it is a spray can, but still called oil 🤔 I think it should be the same thing? Anyway, I don’t plan to use it on the Onedinity maintenance, will use the same one you have for that. But was just curious when I also saw it as a spray can, so I ordered one to check it out
I think 5 cans will last you a lifetime, LOL. Interesting about the spray oil, that would be great for door hinges and locks. Let me know if you like it.
I have imagined a completely different reason as to “why people don’t want to take the spindle out”, and that’s because I think I’ll have to tramm it again :( Even though I’ll keep my 3 fold aluminum foil shim in the same place when I will mount it back on, I still think it will not be trammed exactly the same. It’s such a bummer they didn’t make some sort of fine adjustment mechanism built in on the z-gantry, to be able to tramm your spindle, and we have to do that by using shims and/or holding the gantry in a specific position while tightening the screws, especially difficult because you kind of have to get lucky to get both X and Y trammed at the same time :( (I have the tramming arm and dial from Pwn) And doing this every month…. Oh man! 🤦🏻♂️ I think it took me over an hour to get mine trammed good emough so I wouldn’t feel the lines my 2 inch flattening bit would leave when flattening my wasteboard. Still not perfect, the lines are still barely visible, but not feeling anything with my fingers. So I gave up having it perfectly trammed and settled for just not feeling those lines by hand:(
Marian thanks for the input, sorry about your shim situation. Have you looked at these two links forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/tramming-front-to-back/8421 and forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/micro-tramming-adjustment/21546/5 I have never had to tram mine - no idea why - maybe I just got lucky but it has always been perpendicular front to back, side to side is another story.
Oh man! I had no idea. I didn't see this in any UA-cam video I happened to find, about tramming (maybe a good idea for a future video?). Thank you so much! First thing when I get back home tomorrow, I will remove the aluminum foil and do it the proper way. Thanks again!!!
No one goes over it in a video and to be honest you can really throw your machine off more messing with those tram screws. Just use shims trust me it’s a lot easier.
Thanks for the warning! Now I’ll certainly think twice before messing with those screws. Will leave that idea alone for now, especially since I already have it trammed good enough with the aluminum foil. Will revisit the thought on the first maintenance 👍🏻 Glad to hear you didn’t need to tramm it front to back, out of the box. I think I had 3-4 hundreds of an inch difference from front to back, over about a 12-13 inch distance (the length of my tramming arm being about 6 inches), measured after surfacing the waste board, of course. Very noticeable ridges with a 2 inch cut radius surfacing bit. Needed to stack 3 or 4 layers of aluminum foil at the bottom of the Z gantry. Anyway, thanks again for everything! Happy cnc’ing!
Lars, thanks for this tutorial on OF Elite maintenance. I have dreaded removing my Z slider because I do not want to tram it again. Used a framing square and got it perfect, guess I need to remove and clean.
Jim, Glad it helped! Yeah it is a pain, but you should just need to tram the side to side this time and check the fron to back.
I have not and never will use oil on any of my CNC machines! I have always used a teflon spray from DuPont. It is in an alcohol carrier and leaves a DRY teflon coating after the alcohol evaporates. Being dry, it doesn’t collect saw dust or metal shavings. I reapply daily which is probably over hill, but I’ve never had a problem because of bearings or wear on the ball screw.
Really good to know. I am only going by what the 1F is preaching to keep your warranty intact.
@@LarsWorkShop I know what you’re saying - I’m not trying to be critical but I found the hard way how many problems oil can cause. I don’t have a Onefinity machine yet. That procedure is not one for the lazy. The teflon spray lubricant is so easy and effective.
Mark, I know. And yes it is not for the lazy, this is why I am promoting daily cleanings.
Awesome Thank you for a great education, again.
Mark, you are most welcome, I am glad the video was informative to you. :)
I wonder if there’s room to put oiler tubes so that you don’t have to disassemble the Z gantry. Maybe something 3d printed with small id (1/8” or smaller) tygon tubing connected to it.
I have been thinking about that - I was thinking a tube like one for a z-turn. If I work it out, I will definitely put a video up on it.
Another issue with an Elite if you have the z motor brake is that it doesn't move manually, so it adds an element of difficulty when cleaning.
Yup. This is one reason I have not upgraded. I still have the issue if power fails it could drop and bust a bit. But spindles are heavy. 😆
Thanks for this video, Lars - I am just getting to using my machine, and I have wondered about all of this sort of thing. I am cutting Baltic birch and it seems to particles are a bit larger than with some other materials, so hopefully most of them are staying out of the bearings/ball screws?
Neil, Glad it was helpful, it is primarily the dust you need to worry about. the oil ports are pretty easy to do - except the x-Axis. I have run mine a lot, and keep it clean after each run, I am sure you are doing the same, so I just keep the oil ports filled and check the ball screw on the z every quarter.
Thanks Lars! Are you bothering with a complete tramming of your machine? I saw you using a square, but noting for front to back? Seems like a hassle if you have to completely remove the z once a month.
I test the tram left and right then front to back and have never had my front to back out of tram. Left to right is out because of removing the z gantry. I checked the front and back when I moved the y-axis away from me - right after checking the left and right. It is surely a hassle, this is why I keep everything as clean as I can. Thanks for the comment Tom!
I don’t know how many maintenance jobs one of those oil cans will last… I just ordered 5 cans, hope I’m covered for plenty of future maintenances and the oil doesn’t have an expiration date 😁
P.S. I’ve also ordered one in the form of a spray, same brand 3 in 1, still called “multi purpose oil”, not sure what’s the difference… it is a spray can, but still called oil 🤔 I think it should be the same thing? Anyway, I don’t plan to use it on the Onedinity maintenance, will use the same one you have for that. But was just curious when I also saw it as a spray can, so I ordered one to check it out
I think 5 cans will last you a lifetime, LOL. Interesting about the spray oil, that would be great for door hinges and locks. Let me know if you like it.
I have imagined a completely different reason as to “why people don’t want to take the spindle out”, and that’s because I think I’ll have to tramm it again :(
Even though I’ll keep my 3 fold aluminum foil shim in the same place when I will mount it back on, I still think it will not be trammed exactly the same. It’s such a bummer they didn’t make some sort of fine adjustment mechanism built in on the z-gantry, to be able to tramm your spindle, and we have to do that by using shims and/or holding the gantry in a specific position while tightening the screws, especially difficult because you kind of have to get lucky to get both X and Y trammed at the same time :( (I have the tramming arm and dial from Pwn)
And doing this every month…. Oh man! 🤦🏻♂️
I think it took me over an hour to get mine trammed good emough so I wouldn’t feel the lines my 2 inch flattening bit would leave when flattening my wasteboard. Still not perfect, the lines are still barely visible, but not feeling anything with my fingers. So I gave up having it perfectly trammed and settled for just not feeling those lines by hand:(
Marian thanks for the input, sorry about your shim situation. Have you looked at these two links forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/tramming-front-to-back/8421 and forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/micro-tramming-adjustment/21546/5 I have never had to tram mine - no idea why - maybe I just got lucky but it has always been perpendicular front to back, side to side is another story.
Oh man! I had no idea. I didn't see this in any UA-cam video I happened to find, about tramming (maybe a good idea for a future video?).
Thank you so much! First thing when I get back home tomorrow, I will remove the aluminum foil and do it the proper way.
Thanks again!!!
Glad I could help Marian!
No one goes over it in a video and to be honest you can really throw your machine off more messing with those tram screws. Just use shims trust me it’s a lot easier.
Thanks for the warning! Now I’ll certainly think twice before messing with those screws. Will leave that idea alone for now, especially since I already have it trammed good enough with the aluminum foil. Will revisit the thought on the first maintenance 👍🏻
Glad to hear you didn’t need to tramm it front to back, out of the box. I think I had 3-4 hundreds of an inch difference from front to back, over about a 12-13 inch distance (the length of my tramming arm being about 6 inches), measured after surfacing the waste board, of course. Very noticeable ridges with a 2 inch cut radius surfacing bit. Needed to stack 3 or 4 layers of aluminum foil at the bottom of the Z gantry.
Anyway, thanks again for everything!
Happy cnc’ing!