Honda Civic Type R Transmission FIXED | Here's how to FIX YOURS
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Changing clutch fluid to RBF660 and installing a thermal shield on master cylinder is enough to fix this issue.
That's the proper solution.
Dear Sebastian, ı also have same issue. How can ı cover CMC with thermal shield? Waiting for your reply, thanks..
Sebastian there’s now RBF 700 too.
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@@brockweaver8476 screen shot it
It’s pretty easy to modify the cmc yourself. I did. The delay valve is basically an extra chamber the clutch fluid has to go through. There are two small holes leading in and out of the chamber.
To modify it you have to block the two little holes off. I blocked off the holes using some aluminum brazing bars and map torch from Home Depot( it’s basically a solder). Then I took some JB Weld steel stick and filled the whole delay chamber with it then I put the chamber cap back on. So it’s solder, steel stick on top of that, and then the cap.
Next I drilled a 3/8 inch hole into the piston cylinder. I put my drill bit through the whole where the hardline fitting goes, and drilled into the piston cylinder from there.
You have to completely disassemble the cmc to do this, and remove all grease and brake fluid.
BigBoysClimbOnBigRing did u take some pictures from the mod?. Are u at insta?.
You shouldnt have to any of that shit on a brand new car
You should create a video of doing this to one
What if we change the cmc before we start having problems? Just to kinda avoid everything in the future.
Now I just need to go buy a Type R
Do it!
Did you buy it?
Just shows you how stubborn and ignorant new honda car buyers are. People, like mysef, have been telling this guy and others about the solution since the car came out. Wouldn't listen. Wouldn't listen... till finally they got it through their thick skulls. It's the crappy dampening clutch master cylinder that has been installed in every manual Acura/Honda since the Kseries first came out in 2001(02 rsx and 02 ep3s). Yes, EVERY manual Honda/Acura has the same issue. The fix for every one of them is to remove that dampening. ... easiest way to do it... buy the clutch master cylinder for an 01-05 civic em2 (call it the 05 civic EX to avoid confusion). Buy it directly from the dealer to avoid issues with aftermarket autopart store low quality issues. YES, this fits every Honda/Acura with the issue, which are all Honda/Acuras from 02+ (excluding the donor 01-05 civic EX). WHO SOLVED IT FIRST YOU ASK. NEW RSX BUYERS OVER 12YEARS AGO. IN 2005/2006 IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. I REMEMER WORKING WITH A BUNCH OF TURBO RSX OWNERS WHO SEEMED TO HAVE THE MOST PROBLEMS. IT WAS SOLVED RIGHT THERE AND THEN. ENJOY.
It's funny that when Honda made the transition to the new "dampening clutch system," they made no mention about it in the USA... YET, IN THE AUSTRALIAN 2001 TYPE-R BROCHURE THEY DID MENTION THIS NEW SYSTEM... DID THEY KNOW THEN THE FATAL FLAW???
Yeah bro , thats why thonda doesn't let you test drive the type r
How did you know? That's exactly why the transmissions have problems, because they won't let me test drive it. Genius!... Wait. Are you saying the opposite, that the reason Honda doesn't let anyone test drive the Type-R is because they are afraid that people will find out that the transmissions/(clutch master cylinders) have problems? I do remember that back when the RSX-S came out in 2001, salesmen were ruining the transmissions and blowing up motors on test drives. The salesmen were doing it! Maybe Honda won't let anyone test drive the vehicle, including the salesmen, let alone the potential customer... Salesmen are crazier than the potential customer. What do they care? It's not going to be their car, so they just drive it like they stole it.
@@michaelnasrallah Honda can care less if you do or don't test drive the CTR. It's the dealership that doesn't want to let you test drive it. It's because the buyers of CTR's, want their car to have very minimal miles on it.
@@copperkeyracing6167 I will never buy a Honda type R if I could not test drive it first .. in UK we can test drive the New honda Type R
Same thing happening on my 2018. Bought it 3 days ago and the 1st to 2nd grind has happened 4 times. Once with rev-matching on, three times without it. All four times between 3500-4000 RPM. Clutch fully depressed all 4 times...not "slamming" it by any means.
I've contacted my Honda dealership to see what they think...waiting to hear back now. Clearly this is a known issue and fairly wide-spread.
Dear Ian, can you fix it?
R-00123 here, currently 5,100 miles never a single grind or lock out. But some gear changes feel too notchy, especially 1-2. I'm hoping you're talking about the clutch slave cylinder. The type r does not have a stand alone clutch master cylinder, the brakes and clutch share the same master cylinder. The CDV is actually in the slave cylinder on the transmission. It seems pretty simple to remove on your own and is something I've been thinking about doing.
Hi Elias, great video!
I’m glad that you have your transmission fixed.
Yes the problem was clutch delay, so it’s great that you have that fixed , plus you got a new transmission!
I watched carefully how you press the clutch pedal. I would say that the oem transmission definitely doesn’t fit your driving style.
You don’t press the clutch pedal for too long so you really needed the clutch delay fixed. I suppose that is the case of many Type R owners specially in the US.
I’m from Europe and I have a very different driving style.
I was a little worried about the gear grind in the FK8, but because of your videos I’m not worried anymore.
I hope that one day I’ll be a happy FK8 owner.
Thanks a lot Elias, keep up the good work!
Car works really well now, it's a whole new car now for me, I LOVE it
Abel Tavares 👍🏼
So what was the official Honda response after they took your transmission, when they replaced it, as to what causes the problem?
The CMC and slave in the 8th gen Si were notorious for having issues with the chambers that would act as dampers I'm surprised they even included that idea in the type R. I swapped it with KTuned CMC and slave and the vibrations are most definitely felt and can even be heard as well. Maybe the steel braided line intensifies this too. I can see aftermarket ones being made for the type r in the future.
Question: When u experienced gear Grind - was "Rev Match" on or off? What mode were you in R+/Sport?
I have a 2018 honda civic type r and the transmission gave up.. it gave me a 1st gear lock out and 2 gear grind. The only gears it would go into are 3rd 4th and 5th.. reverse.
Does anyone know if there has been any talk of a class action lawsuit against Honda? I just got a brand new 2019 CTR and have already experienced one 1st to 2nd grind. Been driving manual for 22 years!
Any update on your situation? I was hoping the 2019s wouldn't have this problem still. 1600 miles on mine and had this happen too, even with normal speed shifts.
what is the part # for the honda oe replacement clutch master cylinder without this delay valve that will fit on the fk8 type r?
Which dealership did you go to exactly? I think I am local to you and getting the same issue as described. Unfortunately my local dealership is a dud and I would prefer going to your location. Is it Hackettstown, NJ?
Honda of Hackettstown
tell em I sent ya
I just bought a new CTR, what are the chances Honda pro actively fixed this issue or that I won’t have any issues at all?
bouchy85 Will the new master cylinder fix it? I did go extra fast from one to two one time and heard a super brief minor non normal gear sound, my clutch was way higher than normal, might have just shifted too early, and then I realized that by nature I really don’t push the limits of the engagement point, I tend to wait until it’s more bottomed out like.
I experienced it driving my 2018 CTR home from the dealer. I thought I was just a bit rusty driving a mt but it happened several times before. I have an Alta shirt shifter adapter now but it did it even before I installed that. It dies feel kind of crunchy. That delay valve in the clutch master cylinder is not allowing to disengage the clutch with the right timing.
Where does this guy located? I have my car at the dealership they are saying that i fuck up the trans. And wants to change me 8 grands for new one? I really dont know what to do bro. Im from NY.
I just got locked out of 1st gear today i have to leave from 2nd in my 2018 type r im taking it into Honda west hopefully I get answers
What happened? I got the same issue!
@@MicPrice757 the day I was going to take my car to Honda West the problem ended up fixing itself I went in reverse to reverse out of my parking area and 1st gear ended up snapping into place I heard a loud crack and went into first gear so I drove it to Honda and they said I could have snapped the synchro but Honda will not fix the problem unless they can create the problem again themselves so I left the car there for about a week the technician could not recreate the problem so it's working fine till this day but it never got fixed
@@MicPrice757 before I took the car to Honda I also played with the gears I shifted from 2nd 3rd 4th and then went in reverse 4th 3rd 2nd try and go into 1st all while being parked maybe that's what helped it don't have an answer for you bro sorry they didn't give me an answer to pass on
I get this on my 2017 SI as well. Kind of annoying. I wonder if the fix will the be same.
I also have same issues in my 2017 fk8.. Can you fix it bro?
Im also owner of 2017 fk8, there is a stuck in my transmission at the 1 st gear and sometimes between 1st and 2 nd.. I wonder your advices..
that sucks man, take it to the dealer for sure!
Just purchased the modified clutch master cylinder and gm synchromesh. Can’t wait to install them. I hope I get the same results as you did. Thanks FlyinGato
happy to help! my trans never did grind after I did this
What about result bro?ı really wonder..
I was having 2nd gear issues and I bought the K tuned cmc kit and that fix the problem 60%-80%. Of course my transmission has 60k so eventually i will need a new one
I’m having a similar issue In my 2018 si, I can almost never get into 1st and reverse without going into 3rd first but even then all the gears are not very smooth when going into them, have you heard of anything like this? I know it’s not a type r lol
hello gato, i just purchased a 21' CTR SGP, i haven't experienced any gear grinds. i do feel that the shifting in this car is a little bit clicky/notchy. i wonder if any other CTR owners feel this?
Yea it is very notchy
My car has the same issue tulio. Very notchy and grindy going into each gear.
Hey guys, hate to be here so soon! I purchased my type R Gt today and I’m noticing it doesn’t drive the same as the one I test drove at the dealers before buying my one. Gear 1-2 is a nightmare not sure what this is!
Ugh bad news!!
Great to hear it’s finally fixed!! Much more fun to drive I’m sure!!! Congrats on 8K subs too!!!!!👍
Any newer 2019 Type R owners experiencing this? Assuming Honda addressed this since this issue was dating back to the 2017s? It would otherwise be an official recall wouldn’t it?
Yep, I have the 4th gear lockout sometimes, July 2019
I have a 2019, no second gear, dealer told me I bounced off rev limiter, which caused it to break, and is not covered under warranty now. Know anyone who builds transmissions for these car. Looking to have between 500 and 600hp, and if it can’t hold stock power, not confident it will hold more power
Look up k20z3allmotor on Instagram, he rebuilds transmissions
Hello,I leave Greece , just ordered mine type r and honda dealer said I will recieved it at march 2019.Will this transmission issue on models 2019 honda fix the problem?
Not sure yet too soon to tell but I hope not
@@FlyinGato what do you mean by, You hope not?Dont understand you bro...
So Would be nice if you share or make a video how to replace the master cylinder 🤘🏻
exactly , where is our DIY ! come on FLYGATO
It’s easy
I don't know if you know or not, but I'm assuming the other Civics also have the CMC delay valve are all the same part #?
I'm not sure if they are all the same in the other Civics, I'll see if I can find out
Much appreciated!
Congrats on the fix. One thing I'm thinking about is that since you replaced the master and changed the trans, we're not sure what actually fixed the grind, the new trans or the delay valve delete...
Actually, and I didn't want to say it in the video, but a number of people in Honda admit that the clutch damper in the master is the cause of almost all the grinds in all their cars. Not sure why they still use it
If that's true, hopefully they realize it and fix the issue, send out a bulletin or a recall. In doing so tho, would be admitting there is a problem which is something Honda prob doesn't want to do
i found shifting slower bc of the delay valve prevents my crunching.. delete that valve should eliminate it.
Glad you got your transmission fixed. Hopefully Honda issues a recall for the other affected users as well. It was a long road for us Focus RS owners with the head gasket issue. Thankfully for us, Ford officially issued a recall. Ford is even offering 5yr/200,000 km warranty for the 2017 and 2018 models now too.
I'm actually impressed with Ford, at least they are fixing the issues!! Honda needs to do the same
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I have a 2019 with 250 miles on it....have had the 1st to 2nd grind 4 or 5 times already....should I take to the dealer??
Yes right away, and film The grind!!
Any updates? What has the dealer done for you? Will the dealer install the CMC?
Only 2500 miles on it now....installed an Acuity shifter... seems to have helped.....going to change MTF next.....
Congrats on 8K!
Thanks! Onward to 10K!
Any ideas if they fixed this issue from the factory on the 2018 honda civic type r?
I got locked out first gear today in my 2018 type r
2020 owner. just got mine about a month ago. It still has the same issue.
Just wondering, would 2nd gear grind even when driving slowly around town not driving aggressively? Just curious.
Mostly when driving aggressively but it happened when driving slowly too
FlyinGato Damn.
Hi!! This faults are fixed on the new units on type r? I have buy one in spain but there no information about this car. Thanks
Not officially fixed by Honda no, but with a new CMC it looks like the problem gets resolved
FlyinGato thank you very much I want buy type r and i hope those fault i have resolved but one more question.... where do you buy new cmc? Is a new code part of honda? Regards!
Not from Honda, gotta contact K20Z3ALLMOTOR on Instagram
The type r gear shifter isn't connected to anything. It's not like a rod shift transmission
Any reports of recent 2019s grinding?
Yea some are grinding
Bought my 2019 CTR 1 month ago and had several 2nd gear grinds. Thought it was just my fault until I began researching. Gato-- will Honda install the CMC for you? Does it affect the warranty?
Urg!! This sucks, I'm just about to pick up a 2019 type R!😭🤔😤
@@stilmotionpicture And any issue with the gearbox when you got it?
Misael David same with 2020
While we're on problems: at about 3500 miles my Type R started sounding like I had a shopping cart jammed under front. Usually right wheel, no "sure trigger": clutch engaged/disengaged, throttle on/coasting, brakes on/off, usually STARTS during turning . At 4500 miles she's in for 3rd time. 2nd time, Honda grasped at rotor splash plate, no fix. They've heard the grinding noise, were horrified (also sounds like a submarine being crushed). Sound familiar to anybody?
Schlies The First experienced the exact same thing, from what I've been told due to the large brakes debris sometimes can get caught up within.
Albert Chahine Yeah, that's what they told me too. 3rd time they "changed the spacing" of splash plate behind rotor- I said "so now I'm gonna catch different sized stones"? The thing I can't understand is: in 45 years of owning vehicles w/disc brakes (almost all of them FAR inferior to the R) I've had this problem a grand total of ZERO times.
It's poor design for such amazing brakes
I can still see the “notchiness” in the shifts. Got rid of that in my 10th gen si by doing the following: acuity shifter cable bushings, acuity shifter base bushings (most important upgrade), and a weighted shift knob (skunk2 matches interior the best IMO. I also swapped out the shifter assemble for the stock type R one for a shorter throw than the si. It’s a lot of labor to get to the base bushings but there’s vids on it. Good luck. (Also the acuity pedal spacer is a must for these cars to heel toe)
A weighted shift knob would just mask any notchiness of the transmission.
Hi, can you say smth new after couple months? Does your gearbox works ok?
Haven't had one grind since the fix
FlyinGato I will have mine, brand new R on February 2019. What’s your sugesstions to do with that car? From the beggining I will change the clutch fluid to Motul 660. Should I put heat shield on the downpipe?
Should I remove this thing from the clutch master cylinder from the beggining?
Is there enything else that I should do?
Thank you :)
@@YourexioTube hi from Turkiye.. I also have same issues in 2017 fk8, can you fix the problem, if yes ı would like to have your advices?
I understand what you are saying about being persistent. It's just hard to do when you are frustrated with a brand new car not working as you'd expect. Did Honda ever get back with you and explain why they chose to do that with the master cylinder other than the engineering thought behind it? It seems totally counter intuitive to do such modification on the clutch function (where engagement and disengagement are critical) on any vehicle, let alone they Type R that is meant to be a performance handling car.
The idea of the clutch delay valve is to prevent "sidestepping" off the clutch. It's very hard on the entire driveline. Iirc, the first Honda to have it was the AP2 (late S2000), because so many people were breaking drivelines with drag launches.
The clutch still disengages at full speed, but when the pedal is released, the clutch re-engagement speed is slowed.
I'm not sure of clutch engagement/disengagement would really affect the gear grind issue. The way I understand a manual to work is this: Disengage the clutch, thus disconnecting the engine from the transmission. Then, shifting into the gear you want. Since this is a syncomesh transmission, the syncros should prevent any possible gear grind as they sync the gear being selected to the output shaft speed. Then, engage the clutch to provide power to the input shaft of the transmission and apply the throttle and away you go. So, possibly, it was the transmission replacement that did more than anything for your gear grind issue???
Robert Bryant Honda wants you to ruin your transmission multiple times so that their dealer network will stay in business. Plain and simple. It's been that way since the new clutch dampening system went into use in 2001 with the DC5/EP3. They had such $$ success $$ with it, they put it in every manual transmission vehicle ever since. Simple fix, as I've mentioned and others have mentioned several times... use the 01-05 civic Clutch Master Cylinder. If you ever buy an aftermarket clutch, ACT requires this change with every clutch they sell for Honda/Acura. Even big name aftermarket companies know this.
When the clutch master cylinder delays the disengagement of the clutch, it's like your not using the clutch pedal at all to shift. Not using the clutch pedal while shifting is called power shifting, just ask Honda. Because that's what they will accuse you of when they open up the transmission and see all the damage YOU did. Power shifting will obviously ruin your gears. Using the factory original clutch master cylinder will ruin your gears. Ruin gears means the dealer stays in business making $$$$ fixing your transmission over and over and over again.
That 4th gear lockout is usually to keep your engine from being damaged.....in this video you we're driving at 20mph in 4th with the pedal floored, this is how you run lean and detonate. Same thing when you put it in 6th and floor it going slow, turbo is boosting its ass off but not enough fuel until the car realizes it and then you see black smoke from the ECU trying not not run too lean and dumping fuel. It's not about missing shifts and over revving the engine....
I have a 2019 Civic Type R and I am having the same problem with the grinding going from 1st to 2nd gear. I would love to try this fix. I have sent k20z3allmotor an email to the address that is in the description. Does he have a website to go to or do I just need to be patient and wait for his response by email?
Caleb,
Could you provide an update on this post. I'm having the same issue with my 2019 and debating what course of action to take.
Thanks
Did you fix your 2019 type 2nd grinding problem?
I have tried a couple things without going too far since I just got the car. I found that adjusting the clutch pedal slightly helps because it ensures complete disengagement of the clutch when shifting. I did try changing the trans fluid at the dealer with the same honda trans fluid but that did nothing. That was more of me wanting to make sure there was the proper amount of fluid in the car from the factory. I have heard that switching to Amsoil Synchromesh is supposed to really help. I haven't tried this yet but I really want to try it.
Btw I never did even get a response from k20z3allmotor unfortunately...
What part of Pennsyltucky are you from I was born and raised in Bethlehem PA.
Just south of Stroudsburg, I love it
Are there any Australian’s with this gearbox issues in their type R’s...? My research suggests US and AUS (Europe) vehicles are made at different car plants
hey bud, they are all made in the same Swindon plant
Gato, do You think that the problem is now over? Cheers from PL.
I've been driving it around everywhere, and no issues at all, time to move on to bigger and better things
Like boats? ) I will be looking on Your channel, hope this fix is permanent, would be great news for all owners/future owners around the world.
Wow bro. That's a hot take on that problem. You may lead to Honda backing off the damper 50% on that valve and solving the issue. Thanks for showing the world how Honda should have done better. Comfort over performance strikes again.
yea it's looking to be a combination of things unfortunately.
Thank you for all your hard work and dedication! You are a hero to so many people! Major kudos to you man!
My 10th civic reverse gear wont disengage to neutral help 😦
Move the car around a bit by pushing it?
@@FlyinGato i did that and i took it to the dealer and told me that the cable bushings were not for the car😦
I been told that the cables had steel bushings im the new owner i believe that the last owner who had it replaced them and it happened to the reverse gear and the sport needed to be rubberized bushings for the design of transmission. I don't want to pay 7k for a new transmission.
i have 2019 type r. i feel the reverse gear not smooth at every first time i want to get in. but it will better second try. is anyone same like this？
It's common in all Hondas, put it in 1st, then reverse
FlyinGato thank you for help. let me try it. i love your channel. help a lot.
BTY the 1st and 2ed gear did not have psi on turbo right？ the car is very new now. i try to put 4000 rpm but on 1st and 2ed gear the torbo looks like not kick in. is that normal？
@@FlyinGato Yeah, I do something similar. I put it in 4th and move it to reverse and it slides right in.
Can't really be certain if the clutch master cylinder is what fixed the problem. You did get a new transmission. The original transmission might have been a bad batch. Just saying. Glad that you're not having that issues anymore. NOW go fix that WRX.
I love u videos, I have a question for you, what dealer did u bring u car to get the trasmition replaced? I will be moving tk the east coast on January and want to get this fix, so I though if I bring it to the same dealer it will be better since they will have a background on the problem. if u can provide the tech too that would b awesome. keep up the good work man.
Welcome to the East coast! Honda of Hackettstown is the dealer to go to for sure, tell them I sent you
Will 46920-S5A-G07 solve this issue?
Are 2019s having this issue??
Yes my 2019 has the same issues
Chuck Cribbs
Mine isn’t
@@CJax749 great to hear from you! how many miles have you driven? I am about to pick up the 2019 Type R by the end of this month! I hope I don't have this issue as well. Looking forward to your reply. Thanks!!
I so hope not! I will be picking up a 2019 type R within a week😭.
Misael David I’ve had mine a month and done 1.5k miles and I absolutely love it - no issues so far; I did have a tyre pressure warning system thing but it was just the system get used to running
Thank you! I’m working the courage and logical thinking to bring this all up to a dealership I plan on bringing my R to :)
Start the process, it's going to take a while
haha, i feel ya, man! just got back from the dealership...they were pretty understanding...but, they weren't quick to jump on board despite the logic i presented....sooo...just ordered a go pro to record the grind! Plus, i got that modified cms and amsoil syncromesh.
Thanks for everything! And to top it off...i met a lawyer who represents drivers like us against dealerships! He even has a blue type r like ours!
i got impatient...got the cmc replaced and the R drives wayyy better...thanks for everything! the owner of the shop that replaced the cmc owns a red R! he trains honda techs on the side and ensured me that he can get me a new trans if this doesn't fix my R :) cool guys you meet in the car community!
Thanks again for everything!
Awesome, let me know if your issues get resolved, car should be much better if not fixed
how much is the modified clutch master cylinder?
I think it's around 250, I'm not sure I'm not really involved with the guy that makes them
Wat can’t master cilíndrele yuo installed
Thanks for the video I call the limon law they have free lawyers
I'm experiencing 1st gear lockout when coming to a full stop like at a traffic light. I have to shift to second before I can get into first again. This happens often independent of.
I've also experienced some 2nd gear grind and very minor 3rd gear grind when it was still cold here.
I am in Germany however and we have a lot more and better consumer rights then you guys 'over there' so I'm sure Honda will fix it. But being in Germany also means I can't get a modified clutch cylinder easily but I'll write that a mail and ask what shipping would cost (and of course check legality - German car laws are a bit bitchy).
Thanks for the update on your transmission.
muh kuh replace master cylinder Nd slave cylinder with after market ones tht have no delay valve
muh kuh hi there iam from germany as well. What you mean with better consumer rights compared to us? You have 3 years of waranty and if somethings happens they will speak the magic words: Verschleißteil :))))
I'm not talking about Honda's warranty (I have 5 years, by the way) I'm talking about the law ("Gewährleistung"). Honda's warranty ("Garantie") is a voluntary service they offer, so they can dictate the terms whichever way they want. The law however states that the dealer has to fix any issues that were present at delivery. And within the first 6 months a customer doesn't have to prove these issues existed at that time. Instead the dealer has to prove they didn't exist if they refused to fix them. Although I might be wrong I'm pretty sure that's not a thing in the US.
Also, transmissions aren't considered subject to wear.
And my dealer is a actually a pretty nice guy. I'm sure we'll get along.
I'm not sure about germany, but get the modified clutch master cylinder, it definitely improves things
Don't shift down to 1st when stopping....who does that?
So did you get a new trans?
I did, and that with the new clutch master cylinder, that's been modified, has worked wonders.
FlyinGato i bet if you put Amsoil MTF in it you’ll get another 20hp haha. But seriously glad it worked out for you. And hopefully honda will fix it on their end
I blew my transmission up at 33k miles and they replaced it. But it's still doing it
Elias did you ever saw the official honda type r record video from the nürburgring ?
If i watch this again and again with my knowledge about the famous transmission problem the grinds i hear a lot of time the same in this video...
At : 0:31 1:56 2:24 3:28 4:27 6:14 6:48.
What do you think about it.
Do 2020's still have this issue??
they're just coming out now, but I am willing to bet that they will, even though they tried to improve on them a little bit
Just bought a 2020 and I’m watching this video...that should tell you something..had first gear lockout a couple times and crunchy shifting into second and fourth intermittently..
Yes it has the same issue. Just got mine about a month ago. 2020 Grind R.
Just grinded into 3rd for the first time. 1100 miles, 2021. You really gotta take your time with the shifting.
Dope video. Glad it's fixed. I have had the gear grind a couple times as well. Gotta call Honda
Thanks! Yea for sure, and get that modified CMC
They said on Paramus Honda New Jersey they put my type r 2021 on computer they said no problen but the shifter is sock I call lemon law they said the going tú hope me
Thats great i'm happy for you sucks having problems with a new car
It's about time!
Awesome congrats on getting that fixed bro. Hope honda fixes it.
Ayeee bro I just realize I see you pass my job all the time !
Awesome! Where at
FlyinGato DWG Dunkin Donuts...I literally point your car out every time you pass and never knew it was you!
@@Juwan1583 That's awesome man, I'll have to pass by one of these days with one of my cars so you can check it out!
FlyinGato broo that would be great!! I just got my first manual accord
manual accords are sweet
OK the issue is fixed BUT what about those grinded gear teeth?
They replaced the transmission.
These aren’t 80’s F1 cars. People grinded the collars on gearboxes and wore out synchros in the 90’s Civics and Integras just the same. Most manual transmissions aren’t designed to be thrown quickly into the next gear as fast as possible even if it works and it feels smooth. Clutch should go in all the way, revs fall slightly as you move the lever between gears, after the slight delay you move the lever into the next gear, and quickly release the clutch so you’re not slipping it and putting heat into it (not saying dump it, just quickly as needed to be smooth). Truthfully, as much as we love manuals for the driving experience they provide, automatic transmissions are superior in almost every other way.
Does this fix affect the warranty at all?
Not if all you say is "install this new OEM CMC I bought mysellf, it's a new factory unit"
Honda cannot modify the cmc themselves and then stand behind their warranty, don't tell them the oem part you want installed is modified. . Emphasis on "its a brand new factory unit"
brian steinker wouldn’t they wonder why you bought your own cylinder when it’s under warranty?
So u mean the new oem cmc is improved vs to old one so make no grind for 2nd gear?
No you have to modify it or get it modified by removing a restriction inside
I Had. 1st to 2nd gear crunch and 5th to 4th lockout. #12346 Also can report that paint is cracking around the inner hatch area near the hinge.
The paint cracking seems to be normal, but the crunch is not! get the modified CMC and then a new transmission
I’m having the same 1-2 issue and what’s funny is mine is #12345 so made literally right before yours lol
Hey gato great video man happy for you finally fixed. Quick question was that a radar detector beeping? Btw keep up the great content!!
Thanks! and yes, it's the radar detector, still trying to figure out which one is the best on the market.
Another Type R gearbox issue: ua-cam.com/video/Khmt5uKa03k/v-deo.html
I really wanted a Type R but all these gearbox issues have meant I will look elsewhere.
My type r number is 12,304 they are fixing mine as we speak they are going to have my car for two weeks. Thats ok with me
Jesus. 2 weeks for a transmission replacement?
All fixed & good now ? What was replaced ?
Dear Brent, what about the result?Was it fixed?
Has anyone tried using a better tranny fluid. Most factory fills are not true synthetic. They are API Group 3 which has no true synthetic base. If the fluid id MADE in Germany or Japan, and says on the label "Synthetic", it must be true synthetic - API Group 4. The only motor oils that are Group 4 in the U'S. are Redline, AMSOIL Signiature, and Royal Purple. You can tell by the price. Most U.S. "Synthetic" oils are $4-6 a quart. Group 4 is $10-11. Redline gear lube is over $50 a gallon. Valvoline synthetic gear lube is only about $23 a gallon. The difference is that Group 4 can take heat and wear better. Totally worth it.
Wow 75 degrees,here in Europe water boils at 100 ;)
The valve has nothing to do with the trans problems. Remember what a "normal grind" sounds like when you get lazy and then listen to the sound of those videos, totally different. What about the 4-5 lockout? Get Honda to fix the trans!!!!! The valve is a good thing and provides more modulation of the clutch pedal as opposed to the almost binary operation w/o it. Take that valve out and I suspect you will spin the tires more and likely at almost every stop if it happens to be wet out. Some may like this, others may not but no sense in spending money unless you have to but at least know what your spending on.
I would agree with you but this is a common gear grind fix for the 8th and 9th gen Civic Si
Only if the 8th and 9th are trying to slam the gears, but still a bandaid all the same. The valve doesn't change the throw or distance the plunger travels in the Slave Cylinder it just changes the time frame in which it completes that throw. The gentleman below describes it and what it really is is a bypass, ( Like all hydraulic equipment) and it doesn't activate until the pressure is equal in the chambers and that is what causes the delayed activation. Enlarge the hole size or clog them and you get a faster reaction and it could be a slam of that piston. Review the SavageGeese video and the trans problems go back a long time. That video, then you say 8th and 9th gen now these in the Type R --- not a terribly pretty picture.
Same fix, not for just 8-10th gen civics... but for all manual transmission Hondas/Acuras since 2001, excluding the 2001-2005 civic. 7th gen civic is not included. EP3 civic and DC5 is included
They just need to recall all the type r and fix this
It's not really a safety thing, so it's not recall-worthy.
It's called a TSB. Technical Service Bulletin. They will call for a TSB, as they always do with this common Honda manual transmission problem. Then, rather than fix the problem and change the CMC for this Honda and 17years of Hondas before it, they will give you new transmission internals, and then the next time you need new internals they will charge you about $3k to do it over and ovee and over again... until one day you get sick of paying Honda and you either change the clutch master cylinder yourself or you pass on the money pit to someone else as you sell the broken transmission Honda. Sad, but true.
Dope!
Good stuff bro
The gear lockout has pissed me off more than the grinding. What's crazy is that I'm way up there in number and still have it. #11884
Edit: My Honda dealership sucks ass though. They won't fix anything they can't directly reproduce. (Like the static that plays out of 1 speaker sometimes that I have on video.) Is there a recommended way to get Honda to acknowledge these issues?
Just keep calling national Honda, and keep bringing the car to the dealer until they fix it.
My FK8's shifts have been smooth and buttery since I got it June 29, 2017. =/
nice!
I'm in the video! Nice
Like your vids man but your mic pics up so much noise its like I am in space. I am wearing headphones so its more intense but its something to look into.
I wonder what percentage of type r owners have experienced this issue in the first place.
This is groundbreaking!
It's a whole new car for me
What you have done is supposed to be an important recall from Honda. I dont want to buy Type R because i am deeply disappointed with their customer service.
Definitely agree with you, they need to definitely fix this for all Type R owners
We all heard the radar detector, don't play it off lol
type - r not that R .... its a civil car with R looks and R abilities from time to time...
2018s type coming with lifetime power train coverage
Is it? Might be a dealership thing
Harrisonburg Honda & Hyundai In VA. Lifetime Powertrain warranty. You're right Elias it's a dealership thing. Asking 39,990 though. Oh and free state inspections too lol. I'm in the search for one as well
If I got mine used its 18 with 1k miles doing the 1st 2ndngrind andn4th gear lock out. How do I know if my car has lifetime?
I purchased my 2018 CTR and got the life time bumper to bumper warranty for everything mechanical and electrical including powertrain 👌so not really sweating anything ill just take it to the honda dealership and they will fix it for free
I want to delete the slave dampner on my accord. feels like I can't drive my car even though I been driving stick for over 10years.
I recommend it for sure!
Intro song name?
I had a 2007 Civic. The manual transmission was horseshit. Looks like they never got better. You guys should stop giving them your money, it's the only way they'll learn.