what became of dennise sullivan? | missing for over 60 years
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- in 1961, 15 year old dennise sullivan recieved good enough grades to earn her the privilege of accompanying her mother and soon-to-be stepfather on the cross-country road trip of a lifetime. however, on july 4th, along a remote road in the desert of utah, both of them were shot, and only one of them survived. dennise went missing, and although the person responsible was found after three days, the mysteries of why he committed his crimes, and what became of dennise, remain all these decades later.
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The fact that Charles survived is INSANE to me. That's honestly a miracle.
The girl hadn't tried to drive the car away, he would not have survived.
I will never get over how you stick to the facts of a case and deliver them without trying to sensationalize them, yet you manage to make these cases so, so moving. I had shivers at the end as you talked about how Grace continued to live in the same house with the hopes that maybe by some slim chance Dennise might walk back through the door. You allow us to see these people as who they were rather than just the tragic victims of a crime.
You are such a treasure for the way you tell the stories of victims is special
Most people discount the Korean War as WWII and Vietnam had more media coverage. My father served on a navy ship and said the starvation of the local population in port was unlike anything he’d ever seen.
It’s no doubt our servicemen died, China and the North Koreans were brutal.
I’d say the USA military is pretty brutal as well, if we’re gonna use that word.
@ Christophertracy09 is a product of far left indoctrination.
My late father was a Korean War veteran. Too many young American men died there.
@@cchaffinccmine too. A paratrooper.
Mine too. Infantry, Bronze Star.
Refused to eat rice, ever.
Wow Charles sounds like a he was a wonderful man. It makes me happy to know that he stayed in Jean's life up until the day he died. It's unfair for one person to have to endure the amount of tragedy and heartache in their lifetime that Charles did.
I don’t care if your a veteran and had a hard time, Iv been diagnosed with PTSD and other mental health issues, I still know from right and wrong and would never dream of hurting anyone for any reason, no excuses for what he did especially to a young child.
I agree! There are unfortunately many soldiers or ex soilders out there who have PTSD and depression but they know it’s not right to harm others especially children. It’s not an excuse.
The fact that you are confident you are so insightful about your own mental health issues should tell you something. And that is that you are not now, nor ever have been, living in anyone else’s head. The majority of humans know right from wrong. You know nothing about anything anyone else is thinking, nor what goes on in their head. Remember that. It’s called ‘empathy’. Without empathy you could be a sociopath.
You are right. Thank you.
@turdferguson. Good lord that was hard to read and I still have no idea what you're trying to say.
@@old5333 Really? I am not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree and understood exactly what Mr. Ferguson said.
While he didn't go out and harm anybody my daddy took his own life. After being at Pearl Harbor on December 7th, 1941 followed by WWII he suffered many many bouts of depression. So yeah, Dr. Gunsmith does not speak for my beloved daddy. He killed our family life together, being at his son and daughters weddings, meeting 3 grandchildren, being there when his wife got cancer and by her side when she died a few years later. We all understood and didn't understand. Daddy did try to get help, in 1967 it just wasn't really there. His 3 attempts to speak with the Navy Chaplin failed too. Not the Chaplins fault it was just bad timing.
That was 1967 that we lost him, now I am the only one still alive in our sweet family of 4. So read both posts again and it may click.
And, to anybody that may read this, taking your life is NEVER ever the answer. There are so many ways to get help these days but your #1 help is found in Jesus.
Albert Booy's story is so tragic. I can't imagine trying to emulate my older brother by joining the military only to be captured and starved in a North Korean POW camp.
What a tragic story all around.
I thought he acted foolishly to find a way into service when his eyesight was clearly a handicap.
@BrittMFH sure, but you can't really place the onus on a young man like that. If you've ever studied ww1 history you'll know that countless young men signed up for the "adventure" of war as it were. And many of them also did not come back.
I belive the army had a duty to protect those 2,000 men and they failed. Korea is a forgotten war anyway. So who really cares...
@@PaulRudd1941damn
So much hardship in the lives of all three families that it's hard to fathom! Incredible story. Thanks, HC.
This is such a tragic story. I pray they all rest in peace. Thank you so much for the compassionate way you tell all of these! Thank you for bringing back your signature background music.
I have never heard of this story. Thank you so much for highlighting it. What a blessing Charles was.
Not much has changed in how veterans are treated and I'm sure more cases like this exist. I've never heard of this case which I appreciate. Amazing work as always.
But in these times, most men were veterans…and heroic combat stories were common.
trauma is not an excuse to be violent to others. this was male entitlement, plain and simple
@@apseudonym Aye. He sounds like one of those people who help others not because they are inherently good but because of the accolades it brings them and they feel like they are owed something for being good/heroes/whatever. But the world failed to acknowledge what a great person he was, so he took it out on a couple who were so obviously happy while he was failing his own image of a hero and a competent man. He might have planned to kill them all, either way, but Janet's open contempt apparently triggered him.
I hope there is an alternative universe where the trio never met him, never stopped to show kindness to a man who didn't deserve it, and where they lived happily ever after...
@@irena4545 I'll vote for that better universe.
Very sad !
R.I.P Dennise Sullivan ⚰️🕊️
I think her grandmother telling Jean that she should feel compassion for Aragon's family instead of focusing on her own mourning of her mother and sister and anger at their loss and the change in her life is what led to her own daughter having to tell her that SHE deserved happiness. Always considering the feelings of others first leads to your own misery.
Agreed 💯! 😊
What’s sad is we don’t even know what happened to the teenage girl. For all we know he could have SA’d her before taking her life. No sympathy for him, and I suspect the only reason the remaining daughter has any sympathy is because she was too young when it happened.
Not having work is not a reason to do what he did. There were lots of other options
@@fremontpathfinder8463yea
@@fremontpathfinder8463 Yes, I agree, it's terrible what happened to him but SO MANY people went through the same thing and did not go out shooting innocent families because of it. And it's especially sad that the family had a pleasant talk with him not that long before he did this.
She struggled with it a lot, but her grandmother helped her come to peace with it. It had nothing to do with her age. You learn to forgive people for your own peace, not for the benefit of the offender.
@@riggs20I think it’s mainly to do with a shrink. I got my BA in psychology, so I do love the science, but only if it’s done honestly. A lot of psychologists sugarcoat for their patients instead of be honest. I’m a pragmatist. I would never make excuses for evil people. I saw a video of a woman whose mother sold her to s*x traffickers as a child and her shrink said it was because the victims mother was emotionally stunted like a child herself. Wrong. Her mother was evil and hated her child. There’s no other reason she would’ve done that. That’s what I mean when I say I don’t like therapists who BS patients.
It would've been so much better if Denise's family could've gotten some kind of Closure.
Maybe. Which is better, knowing that she died a violent death, or believing that she was alive and well but suffering from amnesia? As a parent, I would choose to believe my child was alive and possibly coming home someday. As Dylan Rounds mother stated "Closure, I hate that word."
I am familiar with this case. I've always wondered if Aragon had suffered a traumatic brain injury at some point in his military service or during his career as a miner. I've never seen a report detailing his injuries in combat or from the mine accident he survived. TBI can dramatically change a person's behavior and personality.
He most likely had PSTD. He was probably also fed up with life in the USA, despute all he had been through and how hard he worked, when his work failed him, there was no social system to take up the slack. Billions of Americans have killed people or died (suicide) over the decades, because we live in a country that is run by corporatists, who no longer reinvest in the American people and seldom ever did.
Dude was secretly a piece the whole time. Military is a common thing for psychopaths and there's many people with head injuries but somehow none of them do this.
@@manfredconnor3194 Blaming anything but him is absurd. He was doing very well in life and functioning. Ya know like a serial killer?
@cockyhemi-123Ok but then they will have to allow homelessness because where are they going to put the homeless people? In jail? That's you paying for food and shelter 😆
@@TrentAdam Really? Seems mike a lot of them do this or they kill themselves. Unemployment, being frequently laid off reactivates helplessness in civilian life. Helplessness is what you feel with pstd. Add some narcissism and betrayal and you have the ingredients for the recipe here. If you have fought or been a "hero" the danger is to let that go to your head. There is a feeling of superiority, because you have experiences what none of these other "worms" have experienced. You have the feeling too, that you did your bit, and put your ass on the line and all of them whine and complain about stupid shit. You are better than them and deserve more or at least deserve to live well after all you have done (for them) and all you did (for them) and then, not only do they not give you a raise, but they lay you off and you get to thinking about how meaningless, absurd and obscene it all was. You go from hero to not being able to provide for the people who depend on you. You are betrayed by the betrayer and come to hate them and they they force you to become them, because they laid you off and now you cannot provide for your family. That f---s with you and you want to take what they won't give you or get revenge. Then you get an opportunity. It looks good. There is a way out. You are happy. You start looking forward again. Then all your hopes are dashed to the ground. You are pushed back into helplessness and hopelessnes, but you still know what you can do and you have hubris. Give that guy some money or a job and you have eliminated the problem. Let him go and you create a force multipler for evil. It has always been the veterans, who have started the rebellions, that ended the rule of law. The farmers alone are rarely successful.
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Thank you for another interesting case that I've never heard. I commend the respect you show to those involved in these cases. Thanks again.
Heavy Case Files, your uploads are so well-researched and you tell the stories with such respect. I am always so pleased when you upload. I hope that one day you will look into the case of Shandee Blackburn, a case covered by Hedley Thomas in his podcasts Shandee's Story and Shandee's Legacy. Thank you for uploading your videos. Always a guilty pleasure to listen to because I feel so sorry for the victims but I enjoy listening to you tell their stories.
I agree wholeheartedly. I dislike listening to most other media about cold cases and unsolved murders because they are very voyeuristic and don't tell us who the VICTIMS were. Heavy Case Files is so different from that, you really get the sense of who these victims were in life before these horrible events happened to them, and it's so moving. I'm glad they can be remembered this way.
This was so well told and clearly explained with compassion. TY and keep up the good work.
Thanks for the post.. what a story … damn
Thank you, for sharing this heartfelt story, one that I have never heard before. The compassion and understanding that it was a loss on all sides, at a time when anger would be justifiable. Thank you.
Appreciate the pace and calmness of your storytelling. It is a pleasure to listen to your excellent research. Thank you, glad I have found you. I have written and researched podcast scripts so I doubly appreciate your hard work.
This whole story is heartbreaking.
Just goes to show, You never truly know What's going on in someone's head.
Watching again because this is an outrageous story I have never heard of. I have been to, stayed in, and driven through Moab, and Arches National Park. Its beautiful but sometimes you don’t see anyone at all unless on the road.
Love your music on this video. Glad you brought it back
You're one of my favorite missing person channels! Always very well presented!
I can't believe I've never heard of this case in all my years of listening to TC content. It reads like a movie script. Thank you for the excellent, victim-centred content as always
You deliver cases very professionally always enjoy your channel
It's been forever, so glad you uploaded❤❤❤
Ive listened to your channel for a long time. I appreciate your straightforward yet compassionate delivery. Ive noticed a very few drive-by negative comments. I hope you dont let them affect your motivation or style.
I think youve got a great channel with very interesting content 🤗
You are great just the way you are ☺️
What a beautiful gift the surviving daughter received from her grandmother- to forgive the brutality of her mother and sister’s killer, and to have a life free of the bitterness she COULD have been saddled with, is such a blessing…
Thank you heavy casefiles !!! I was in upper grade school when I lived nearby and remember this so well.'
I tried to find information later on as I was haunted by this family. I knew the area well and my family had stopped at most of the areas where the killer stalked Dennise and her family. Thank you for research as this as sad story has faded from memory.
Love, love, love this channel. 💯♥️🇦🇽🙂
The worst thing for the family is the not knowing i mean its completely torturous on the mind at least with a body they would be able to grief but when there's nothing all you have is so many unanswered questions which anyone would struggle to deal with
He may have been after the girl all along. So sad.
I’ve heard about this case previously and it’s so tragic. It’s hard to comprehend the pain of losing family that way. RIP to all.
Very interesting and well laid out. Thank you.
Welcome back!
When Jeanette took the wallet and threw some bills at Aragon, I was like wow she is a.bad ass. right on! little did I know he would then shoot her
My dads best friend (best man at my parents wedding) did something similar. I was about 2 when he was shot while being forced to give up his wallet in front of a gas station. I literally never knew this until a few years ago. I have no memory of him and my dad never talked about him much and never said why he had lost contact with his childhood buddy. I have been doing genealogy since 2005 and did a quick search to see if dads friend was listed in obituaries etc or any other mentions of his name in records I could easily access. No. I only found an article about the shooting in an area newspaper. It didn't say who the assailant was or what happened to him. I also found out where dads buddy is buried, his parents were buried next to him later. Bad-arse gets you nowhere but a slab at the coroners.
She would have been killed anyway. Be a badass till your last moment.
Wow, this is such a sad, tragic case all around. It's about the only case I've heard where I have some sympathy for the perpetrator. Obviously, our veterans being unsupported after the sacrifices they make for this country is not a new thing. Thank you for presenting this case with such compassion. Your research is top notch!
Missed your posts. Welcome back 😊
Excellent video so much info and detail to this tragic story well done you! love from the UK 👏👏💕
You did a really good job with this video. Thank you for the attention you bring to the cases that you cover 🌟
The guy is broke and unemployed but doesn't sell his guns I think he was planning to do robbery long before this happened. Can't blame it on his military service many vets have been in the same situation but don't turn to robbery and murder.
As always...great video. Love your voice and narration which is SO well written! Love your channel.
Sad story. You have told it very well. Thank you.
I was 11 years old, living in Salt Lake City, at the time of this incident. I have no memory of it, though I began life near Moab where my dad was a deputy for a while. Such a sad case.
The crazy part to me, is that they believed it couldn’t have been him in the beginning, because he was a good guy… that’s neither seeing the forest, nor the trees.
Awesome story and telling!
This is why I never stop to help stranded motorists. NEVER.
Charles truly seems like a decent man. May they all rest in peace.
My favourite channel of all time.
The shovel makes me think she did not go off the cliff.
Thank you HC. Very very sad🙏🏼💔🕊️😓
Love the music to your channel! Simple yet terrifying!
Be interesting to hear what the autopsy report revealed. Maybe a brain tumor. When the money was thrown at him I wonder what he was thinking. Seriously messed up situation. All that quick gun fire and driving after Dennise. Thx for your careful attention to this and your other cases.
I love your videos. Thank you for uploading when you can ❤
Man.. this family experienced a lot of tragedy 😢
I love your voice. This is such a sad story.
Stunning story well told!
Jean is a kind and good person. I’m glad she didn’t waste her life feeling angry and looking for revenge.
Sometimes I feel I've been desensitized to these sorts of things, but this one really gripped me. I'm quite surprised this case isn't more well known given all the elements at play. Honestly, your best work yet. Thank you.
Everything about this case is tragic. Sad how much this must have impacted the three seperate families.
wow what a tragic story. your channel is my absolute favourite!
Haven’t heard this case before. I hope other channels pick it up, just in case someone has found something or remembers something.
What a sad story for every family effected! You really did a great job of telling it, thank you.
Tragedy all the way around, including Aragon's family he left behind after such horrible crimes and suicide. Poor Denise, what horrors she went through that last day. So sad.
Welcome back! ❤❤❤
Great video as always 🫠
Charles sounds like a truly amazing man, and I'm so glad Jean had him in her life.
Great video as always but I’ll say what I say on every video lol Still miss your OG haunting music! Bring it back! Xo
Just because her case is cold does not mean that we can forget about her.
It's a shame that even to this day, our own government discards our soldiers as they did back then.
There are so many cases where vets have snapped, even to this day. All of this could've been prevented if he had had proper care. It's such a shame. RIP Denise and Jean. And yes, RIP to Aragon, too. I hope that everyone found peace.
Some men don't deserve to be fathers. Some men are destined to be. Despite the tragedies in her life, Jean was very lucky to have Charles in her life.
The whole thing is just tragic. I think the poor man just snapped. I think Denise's family showed grace and forgiveness in looking at how it affected the killers family too.
The poor man? Talk about misplaced sympathy.
@@ababble1245 it's tragic how horribly the US gov't treated service members back then in terms of mental health, and even now in modern times, but i agree with you. there's absolutely zero excuse to cause harm to innocent people like that.
"No history of violence" is always a strange statement to apply to anyone who fought in the Pacific theater. Im not trying to say its wrong to commit violent acts in war, but it stands to reason that the man had been involved in some serious violence during his later teenage years. We don't live in a society with an internal mechanism in place to deal with these sorts of experiences. Furthermore we have enhanced means to exact violence each other with the advent of modern technology. Alexander the 3rd (aka the great) conquered a city at the age of 16, and though Alexander's lofty station in life afforded him no cause to feel discarded or ill treated by his compatriots later in life. He also lived at a time where violence was understood by many, with cultural mechanisms to deal with such experiences. We have been working hard ever since the negative PR of the vietnam war, a war which caused a larger than normal number of psychological casualties both during and after the war. Now the people know the truth. War is hell. So we insulate the modern soldier when possible from the experience of war, by fighting at ever increasing distance, by killing/observing via drones through a screen. We insulate the public with direct immersion using a near infinite number of videos depicting atrocities of all kinds. If we cant keep the public from knowing "what goes on" than we must desensitize them.
24:00 That the killer was limping and seemed in pain to others who saw him before might have just been him trying to lure victims in.
Love the narration. Very monotone.😮
A heartbreak for so many.
I’ve listened to a lot of murder cases on UA-cam. This has to be one of the most tragic ones. I think I’ve ever heard rest in peace to all that suffered and died !
Jean had such a tragic life. I prefer to focus on her and not the violent criminal. Jean survived domestic abuse , finally found happiness; only to be murdered!! For being helpful!!
But tell me about the poor unemployed man.
Charles sounded like a good man.
This case highlights so much pain and tragedy in so many lives.
Every time that we mention Dennise Jeannette Sullivan online we enhance her digital footprints.
Road trips in the 60s and 70s, especially headed west, seem to have quite a body count, alas.
This is a very hard story to hear. Very sad.
Such a sad family story 😢
This is one of your best.
The last comments made me think of the small child mummy they found in the Sahara and discovered that it was 7,000 years old. Hopefully, it doesn't take that long, but it's really easy to be lost in some places and never be found.
Mental illness is still hard to deal with today. I can't imagine how worse it was back then. To think this guy likely had residual shell shock & snapped is tough to accept. All of us are like rubber bands that can only be pulled so far.
Wow!
No excuse for creepy behaviors and actions.
Rest In Peace gone but not forgotten. Blessings Be. My heart breaks for the soldiers. But you just can’t kill because you can’t find work.
My heart bleeds for all. Blessings Be.
Never stop to help someone who is stalled. Call for help instead
Once again, mental health might've halted Abel's emotional break...the poor family that crossed paths with him...this is a tragedy, times 10.
She was killed cause she saw what he did. Denise, body was dumped in a spot, buried under rocks or shoved down a mine shaft. In it all all are now dead unless the killer is in a nursing home at 98 yrs if age.
Thanks Heavy
“…. potentially into the trunk” is incorrect; better instead to say “probably / possibly into the trunk .” Very common mistake to use “Potential” when “Probable” or “possible” is the better choice