16:45 I'm Joseph :) I chose Virizion over kartana for a few reasons. Having stone edge for Charizard, volcarona, and Zapdos was valuable, and scope lens meant leaf blade and stone edge would crit 50% of the time. It was meant to counter teams commonly used by the Californian players, sun and rain
@TheOtherNeutrino I might be in the minority, but I land a lot more Stone Edges than I probably should. In fact, I'd be as bold to say that I've missed more Play Roughs than Stone Edges. Those accuracies should be swapped 😂😂
The Pokemon keeps going down in the tiers until it reaches one it completely melts and then it's stuck in BL or in the awkward spot of too bad for its tier but too strong for the one below.
Outspeeding many fire types like Charizard Y and knocking them out with Stone Edge is such an amazing feeling. Same with Durant, but overall, Virizion was much more consistent until Clefable became more relevant.
I like how they were given the chance to make a cool future robot version of Virizion in SV but they still felt the need to make it look like the robot was wearing shoes
The Paradox inclusions now have me thinking, how FORESHADOWING was DONPHAN actually!?? Donphan being one of your first videos also deserves a remake too, Donphan has been a surprisingly understated goat for several generations with its occasional ventures into OU being a product of its more primal ancestors dormant DNA
When Iron leaves was a raid boss, it had E terrain set up. I wish the paradox Pokémon had a damaging move that also sets up either sunny day or eterrain
Even just a better E terrain setter might make it viable again. Pincurchin just doesnt do enough for anyone to use it. If Tapu Koko comes back into Scarlet and Violet, Paradox mons are going to have a field day.
@@iplayonatoaster5406I remember one time a made an ou team of pincurchin and five future paradox Mons and it worked better than I expected. Everything was really fast and hit pretty hard
You forgot to mention how Virizion came in 2nd at worlds in 2013 with Fuko Nakamichi vs Brendan Zheng. It didn't come into the battle but the weavile that she had on the team had beat up making it likely it was the beat up strategy to raise the attack of Virizion. That's one thing I think was needed to be talked about. Other than that it was cool seeing you talk about iron leaves too!
@@camillalapolentona84480Better than Iron Leaves which doesn’t even sound legendary or special at all. A name like that could apply to pretty much any other Grass type Pokémon. Something like Iron Xylem would’ve been cooler
I'm expecting the Salamence remake to include it's prehistoric form in Roaring Moon. Same goes for Volcarona and it's two Paradox forms in Slither Wing & Iron Moth.
@@lessgochamp646 nah, Heavy Duty Boots were kinda needed, considering how freaking common and determental Rocks, Spikes, T-Spikes and Web were to opposing teams. It shut down so many mons for free which kinda sucked lol
It would've been really cool to see iron leaves get an electric grass typing. It doesn't get that nasty 4x weakness to u turn and with coverage could be a great sweeper
Something tells me Paradox Entei will be a triceratops or a T-Rex. Wonder what its signature move will be: Walking Wake gets a Water-move that gets a power boost in Sun AND Rain, Raging Bolt gets Electric-Type Sucker Punch, so we'll eventually see what this signature Fire move will be...
I really liked using Virizion in Gen 5 OU. Yeah it was UU but had great special bulk and good HP and GREAT speed tier meaning it could set up SS with no problem. Its type combination was good enough at helping stave off the common rain teams you see so much both offensively and defensively and paired real nice with leftovers. In my opinion, a fairly underrated grass type
7:45 I'm Blake. I was really young when I made this team so I just put cool and strong pokemon into and placed well lol, also the gliscor was a full odds shiny named "legit". I didnt even know about natures, IVs or EVs.
idea for a new theorem video: "the Ash Ketcham theorem: why "skill" is not only limited in teambuilding and understsanding of the mechanics". reading your opponent and predicting possible outcomes matters too. most of the top players in "random battles" are the same players in the other regular formats. and random battles is a format where the players are given zero control on team building.
I love Virizion and Cobalion as a casual player. They have amazing designs and interesting backgrounds. They have consistently been among my favorite Pokémon since their release. Iron Leaves is just as incredible, along with Iron Crown, and they are all tied with being my favorite future paradox Pokémon with Iron Valiant. Seeing their impact, no matter the size, into the competitive scene is fascinating. You're the only Pokémon UA-camr I watch. You're videos are great to watch and let me glimpse at a world of Pokémon I am not a part of. Seeing my favorite Pokémon featured in your episodes always brings a smile to my face.
Imagine False Swipe drop the following in October: "We will only release one video this month , at the end of October.See you then!" My guess would be "Rotom is coming"
Man I used this a lot with AV in the gen 8 unrestricted format with beat up and tailwind support. After maxing it took hardly anything from Kyogre's Ice Beam and threatened both it and Groudon. And it left both unrestricted slots open. So many people would be caught off guard by it, guess people didn't know what to expect from it as an offensive threat? Sure it got slammed by a bunch *cough* Zacian but what didn't? Was funny to ruin people who'd spam the weather duo though.
I remember one of my favorite poketuber said back in the day using a special set of virizion vs heatran: i have a useless stab and the other is giga drain (referring to focus blast)
It's so wild to me that when talking about Gen 9 RU getting massacred by Iron Leaves you showed Tyranitar getting beaten down by Close Combat. It's wild that an OU titan fell so far.
7:48 Hey, That's me! I don't actually play anymore, although I still occasionally watch matches and other stuff related to VGC (including this channel, lol). I generally get a little embarrassed when looking back at some of my old teams and performances, because I was definitely worse at the game back then, so some of my stuff was kinda cringe. I often put off watching certain vids on the channel if I expect that I'll be mentioned, so I think I need to work on my anxiety... At the time, I'm pretty sure Virizion was mainly around because it matched up well against most rain cores with its high Sp.Def and Grass tying, but outside of that, it really didn't do much special. As a complete side-note my name has changed since those 2013 tournaments, so I now much prefer to call myself Rina Nishino. I've occasionally thought of getting back into VGC under my new name and country, especially with last year's worlds being held in Japan, but I'm not as closely connected with the VGC community now as I used to be, so it's sometimes difficult to justify when I don't have too many friends to share the experience with.
The best part of future paradox pokemon is that they're just waiting for tapu koko to arrive. The second that thing drops you best believe iron leaves is back in ou
I think FSG should do a video of all the paradox pokemon that wont be said in videos bc they've all been put in a video alr (E.g Delibird already has a vid)
It's Pokedex entries mentions that it has quick movements. Justified is nice and all but maybe we could give it an ability that matches the description like Quick Feet or even Speed Boost.
It's low usage is contributed to it being an event only pokemon, and similarly, the same case applies for Walking Wake. Virizion is just weak as a defensive profile cause a single flying tera blast would make it go down. Iron Leaves is just way too limited as it stands, and unless it is Fire or Flying Tera, it has physically no way to counter the prevalent bugs in the tier. With scald coming back, it's gonna struggle even more.
But how would that relate to Charizard? Charizard's gimmicks have been extremely successful, with Mega X being top tier in singles, Mega Y being very good on both singles and doubles, and Gigantamax being a top tier VGC threat on multiple formats (including the one with resstricted legendaries allowed)
If anything the charizard theorem would be a showcase of the strength of pokemon who can use each generation's gimmicks rather than a proof against it. you'd need a pokemon who never used gems, never had a mega evo, never used z moves and never gigatimaxed.
It would be the opposite, how gimmicks are everything. Both of Charizard's Mega forms were extremely successful in singles, its Y form was defining in doubles, it utilized Z-moves pretty decently from what I understand, its GMax form was very successful in VGC, and from what I understand it's also using Tera pretty successfully
LEAVES was absolutely insane in UU even tho it wasnt there by usage in post-home, and still continues to excel on electric terrain teams, especially with lucha to escape first imoression
Personally, I think Iron Leaves shouldn't have been in this video. Paradox Pokémon aren't forms of existing Pokémon they just resemble the existing one. I wouldn't expect Tentacruel and Toedscruel to share a video for the same reason
The fact that both Breloom and Chesnaught generally outclassed Virizion in Gen 6 OU is a shame. I really love its design. Edit: changed “Virizuon” to the actual correct spelling.
Coming soon would be Iron Crown as Coballion's Paradox form. Terrakion would likely be next anyway even if it doesn't get a Paradox form alongside Entei
Vir-iz-i-on. That’s how I’ve always pronounced it, and I can’t/won’t stop now. Jokes aside, thank you for another video. I love these and listen to each of them dozens of times while I work. You really help me get through long days, thank you so very much for your content
i know this is such a niche remake but considering the paradox pokémon it would be cool to see a remake of misdreavous, mismagius, and now fluttermane 👀👀👀 just coming from the number one fan of them lmao
Wacky Buff ideas: Give it Nasty Plot (it looks so smug) Give it Aura sphere and Vaccum Wave too I guess? Give it grassy surge Give it Seed Flare How many tiers does it rise?
Well, yeah. The other two did. Why wouldn't it follow suit? It's not Gamefreak's style to leave one hanging, especially if they're part of a group. That's why Zamazenta got nerfed for example, even though he didn't do the things his sister did.
virizion for me was always a better choice of support for double fights despite the myriad of weaknesses it has for a profile exem... "For a long time it was solid in VGC, a pity that since dynamax appeared and lighter ways to avoid priorities oh screen users left it in the land of absolutely nothing. 5:35 is very curious this mashup, because virizion here seems to have the best advantage-but then Ironleaves and walkin arrive and the matchups are reversed.... 16:55 is it me? am i crazy? but since when virizion is able to learn fire blast? i guess it's a mistake in writing synthesis or something like that, because i've never seen virizion have that MU.
I feel like paradox forms should be a different video as they are too different from their regular mons (maybe like a chat video as some of the last videos were)
Fun fact: Virizion was a meme ish mon in most of SS nu till sirfetchd and machamp were banned. It isnt the best non NU fighting type. That goes to gallade. But its still a good mon. cheesing through the water+steel cores that r quite common in NU is big advantage.
I suppose the coverage here proves the upcoming Tyranitar remake will be extra long. How about predicting its overall length and why you’ll think it’ll be that long? I predict Gen 2: 8 minutes Gen 3: 12 minutes Gen 4 (counting Ubers and VGC from here on out): 15 minutes Gen 5: 18 minutes Gen 6: 16 minutes Gen 7: 16 minutes Gen 8: 20 minutes Gen 9: 11 minutes That equates to almost 2 hours of video time if I’m right. Get ready for Endgame!
@@grydon6422In terms of how they look and such, yeah. But their stats are sometimes very different, like with Iron Bundle and Slither Wing and most importantly, they're considered different species by the games themselves, with Volcarona and Deliberd for example not getting any benefits for having their Paradox brehtren. Lumping them in just sounds unnecessary.
Verizion is my favorite of the musketeers and I very happily enjoyed using it to fight rain in gen 5 which is where I first started playing. Seeing it fall always hurt a little as I couldn't continue competing with it in OU. I think the way gen 9 ou is right now, if Verizion returned it may actually do better than Iron Leaves just because of fighting stab and its great coverage. A scarf set could do well there, but CM might have potential as well. I don't really like Iron Leaves's design but its nice to the the leaf dear in SOME fashion doing what it does best, which is slicing up the competition with no mercy.
We've been examining Competitive Pokémon with FSG for six years now, and I appreciate how we went from "Not OU, it sucks" to giving the lower tiers their due respect. The low tiers are not something to be mocked anymore. There are so many Good and Legitimately Great Pokémon down there. Their only problem is that the metagames are just too strong. With more ridiculous and Broken Mons emerging in OU, it isn't a badge of shame to be NU or PU anymore. The mighty Metagross and Tyranitar were claimed and even Garchomp was nearly taken away.
Virizion alongside the rest of its quartet just needs sharpness giving them boosted sacred swords and in case of virizion boosted stab leaf blade as well
if paradox pokemon is now gonna be counted, we need a delibird remake!
99% of the video gonna the robo birb
Honorable mention: Delibird
Literally just about enough material for a youtube short
Delibird sucks one of the worst pokemon.
You better watch out
You better not cry
You better not pout cause I'm telling ya why
I feel like we'd need a Donphan remake more than Delibird. Donphan has two paradox forms, and its video is pretty outdated
16:45 I'm Joseph :)
I chose Virizion over kartana for a few reasons. Having stone edge for Charizard, volcarona, and Zapdos was valuable, and scope lens meant leaf blade and stone edge would crit 50% of the time.
It was meant to counter teams commonly used by the Californian players, sun and rain
Vote for Pin. Also congrats to your placements m8
50% crit rate on 2 moves with such a good coverage together is insane
Technically, Stone Edge would crit 40% of the time when accounting for its infamous accuracy.
W team. Congratulations for your placements man ❤
@TheOtherNeutrino I might be in the minority, but I land a lot more Stone Edges than I probably should. In fact, I'd be as bold to say that I've missed more Play Roughs than Stone Edges. Those accuracies should be swapped 😂😂
Virizion really can’t escape a 4x weakness, even when it’s a robot.
it makes sense that the weakness of a robot is a bug
With the exception of Iron Crown, both Iron Leaves and Paradox Terrakion have a Bug weakness
@@kinghasturFFFF00True
@@MaahirMomtaz12Paradox Terrakion doesnt even exists yet......
But it's still so good
My favorite trope in this series is "The Pokemon dropped to so-and-so tier, where it was IMMEDIATELY banned."
What about "UNFORTUNATELY"?
The Pokemon keeps going down in the tiers until it reaches one it completely melts and then it's stuck in BL or in the awkward spot of too bad for its tier but too strong for the one below.
@@DiegoG2004or it‘s a special case, like Staraptor. Where, since it’s inception, it’s been in UUBL limbo for like 4-5 generations
@@KeDe1606i think in gen 9 its finally in an actual tier
@@mrtrollnator123 oh thank god. Finally. Do you know which tier that is?
I’m just surprised by how many Focus Blasts you guys managed to land for this video.
So much so that it turned into fire blast in the popular moves list
Gotta love fire blast virizion
_Video material gathered for 10 years to make that possible_
They either Skill Swaped No Guard to it or had to try many many times until it landed
Outspeeding many fire types like Charizard Y and knocking them out with Stone Edge is such an amazing feeling. Same with Durant, but overall, Virizion was much more consistent until Clefable became more relevant.
Until it eventually misses ofc
@@bobfrank7339physical rock type move moment
@@felixma9192 is power gem the only non signature rock move that is 100% accurate?
@@Pam234 smack down and salt cure as well
@@felixma9192 salt cure is a signature move
I like how they were given the chance to make a cool future robot version of Virizion in SV but they still felt the need to make it look like the robot was wearing shoes
I kinda like Virizion/Iron Leaves' boots. They give it some nice flair and personality
They look more like hooves
Or boots.@@MaahirMomtaz12
It looks like its front legs are broken.
@@MaahirMomtaz12at the bottom, yes, but higher up they look like stereotypical boots worn by Renaissance musketeers
The Paradox inclusions now have me thinking, how FORESHADOWING was DONPHAN actually!??
Donphan being one of your first videos also deserves a remake too, Donphan has been a surprisingly understated goat for several generations with its occasional ventures into OU being a product of its more primal ancestors dormant DNA
You already knew it was coming
And also his future descendants being a actually decent Pokémon in Ubers even though it sits in UU
@@PlatinumStrife I honestly think it will go back to OU when the indigo disk comes back
@@PlatinumStrife Iron Treads is funny how its two best tiers are Ubers as a Miraidon and co. check, the skips OU to become UU's Great Tusk
Great Tusk is the most overrated mon of the current meta and funny to say, I really love it.
When Iron leaves was a raid boss, it had E terrain set up. I wish the paradox Pokémon had a damaging move that also sets up either sunny day or eterrain
Yeah, it wouldn't even need to be ridiculously powerful either, 40-60 base would be just fine
@@brendanboomhour7606knowing gamefreak itd probably be around 75-85bp
Even just a better E terrain setter might make it viable again. Pincurchin just doesnt do enough for anyone to use it. If Tapu Koko comes back into Scarlet and Violet, Paradox mons are going to have a field day.
@@iplayonatoaster5406I remember one time a made an ou team of pincurchin and five future paradox Mons and it worked better than I expected. Everything was really fast and hit pretty hard
You forgot to mention how Virizion came in 2nd at worlds in 2013 with Fuko Nakamichi vs Brendan Zheng. It didn't come into the battle but the weavile that she had on the team had beat up making it likely it was the beat up strategy to raise the attack of Virizion. That's one thing I think was needed to be talked about. Other than that it was cool seeing you talk about iron leaves too!
Missed opportunity to call it’s paradox form Iron Wireless
It wouldn't fit the 12 letters limit
Amazing
@@camillalapolentona84480Better than Iron Leaves which doesn’t even sound legendary or special at all. A name like that could apply to pretty much any other Grass type Pokémon.
Something like Iron Xylem would’ve been cooler
@@GoldGuard tbh "Iron Xylem" is something sounds cool for the novelty but goes all around to be stupid over how edgy ot tries to sound😅
@@GoldGuardHonestly, one of the most iconic legendaries is called cat sound + two. So I think Iron Leaves is fine.
One thing you forgot to mention about Virizion was its recent resurgence in ORAS UU
I'm expecting the Salamence remake to include it's prehistoric form in Roaring Moon. Same goes for Volcarona and it's two Paradox forms in Slither Wing & Iron Moth.
And the Gen 9 Volc ban to Ubers cos Tera Grass was OP on it lol. Volc has had a very interesting competitive career
@@cheyanne2001also heavy duty boots
@@Hilight277 true! heavy duty boots were a godsend to let it hit the field safely
@@cheyanne2001 more like a curse. This item shouldn't have existed
@@lessgochamp646 nah, Heavy Duty Boots were kinda needed, considering how freaking common and determental Rocks, Spikes, T-Spikes and Web were to opposing teams. It shut down so many mons for free which kinda sucked lol
Actually at the time of this video, Iron Leaves is UUBL for some reason. Also, there is a typo of Fire Blast in Virizion moves section in gen 7 or 8.
*rubl. It dropped recently and got banned in a week
it was supposed to be foc blast.
It's rubl
It would've been really cool to see iron leaves get an electric grass typing. It doesn't get that nasty 4x weakness to u turn and with coverage could be a great sweeper
My favorite sword of justice! I’ve been waiting for the group to be complete
Just one more to go!
If you include Paradoxes with their normal versions the eventual Donphan remake is gonna break Lando's record for video length
Iron Treads, Great Tusks _and_ Donphan? 💀
Flutter Mane and bundle too being that they're legal in VGC
What about Volcarona, Iron Moth and Slither Wing?
@@motoyeerma3377Volc alone would be a lengthy video since it was banned from OU
@False Swipe Gaming about 6 years from now, I can't wait for "How Good Was Baxcalibur Actually"
….and then it got Scale Shot
It will be overshadow by Dragoneon, the dragon type Eeveelution.
Shiny virizion looks amazing. Perfect for spring the season
16:56 Ah yes, my beloved Fire Blast Virizion
I like watching these mostly for the Competitive Clips in the middle rather how good the Pokémon were Competitively
16:56 virizion getting fire blast in gen 8 is peak pokemon moment
But Virizion cannot learn Fire Blast!
@@racejones5939i was being sarcastic. Click the timestamp and see the popular moves section
@@arshianhassan395 well, I accept that.
This mon has a whole lot more in its record than i had initially predicted.
I wonder what Past Entei and Future Terrakion would look like
raging heat / iron rock (very original)
they're already leaked so you can search it up
fake lol
Entei better be thicc
Something tells me Paradox Entei will be a triceratops or a T-Rex. Wonder what its signature move will be: Walking Wake gets a Water-move that gets a power boost in Sun AND Rain, Raging Bolt gets Electric-Type Sucker Punch, so we'll eventually see what this signature Fire move will be...
I really liked using Virizion in Gen 5 OU. Yeah it was UU but had great special bulk and good HP and GREAT speed tier meaning it could set up SS with no problem. Its type combination was good enough at helping stave off the common rain teams you see so much both offensively and defensively and paired real nice with leftovers. In my opinion, a fairly underrated grass type
i know people like to knock the future designs, but i really like how they look in-game. iron leaves' weird ferrofluid blades are dope
The algorithm did you well with this one for me at least, kept getting recommended so here I am finally watching. Keep up the great content, thank you
Next week is the 1 hour terrakion vid 😂
7:45 I'm Blake. I was really young when I made this team so I just put cool and strong pokemon into and placed well lol, also the gliscor was a full odds shiny named "legit". I didnt even know about natures, IVs or EVs.
One more Swords of Justice member left, and I have no doubt in my mind that Terrakion will have a one hour video.
idea for a new theorem video:
"the Ash Ketcham theorem: why "skill" is not only limited in teambuilding and understsanding of the mechanics".
reading your opponent and predicting possible outcomes matters too.
most of the top players in "random battles" are the same players in the other regular formats.
and random battles is a format where the players are given zero control on team building.
I love Virizion and Cobalion as a casual player. They have amazing designs and interesting backgrounds. They have consistently been among my favorite Pokémon since their release. Iron Leaves is just as incredible, along with Iron Crown, and they are all tied with being my favorite future paradox Pokémon with Iron Valiant. Seeing their impact, no matter the size, into the competitive scene is fascinating.
You're the only Pokémon UA-camr I watch. You're videos are great to watch and let me glimpse at a world of Pokémon I am not a part of. Seeing my favorite Pokémon featured in your episodes always brings a smile to my face.
Imagine False Swipe drop the following in October: "We will only release one video this month , at the end of October.See you then!"
My guess would be "Rotom is coming"
jesse what the hell are you talkin about
17:36 ah yes my favorite move to run on Virizion, Fire Blast
Hey, Virizion! Virizion's VGC 2012 analysis was the only one I ever posted to Smogon ^_^ It doesn't credit me, but I wrote it XD
Man I used this a lot with AV in the gen 8 unrestricted format with beat up and tailwind support. After maxing it took hardly anything from Kyogre's Ice Beam and threatened both it and Groudon. And it left both unrestricted slots open. So many people would be caught off guard by it, guess people didn't know what to expect from it as an offensive threat? Sure it got slammed by a bunch *cough* Zacian but what didn't? Was funny to ruin people who'd spam the weather duo though.
I remember one of my favorite poketuber said back in the day using a special set of virizion vs heatran: i have a useless stab and the other is giga drain (referring to focus blast)
If you're doing Paldea already, then the Bisharp and Donphan remake videos would go quite hard.
11:30 Jackson evolved his Clefa and went up a spot
Shoutout to Virizion from Mystery Dungeon Gates To Infinity. One of the better characters in the series.
Oooo, we're pairing paradox pokemon with their inspirations? Can't wait for "How GOOD were Average Tusk and Great Tusk and Elon Tusk ACTUALLY?"
How bad was iron jugulis actually
@@Giratina575 No match for the dreaded Iron Mugulis
this confirms that the Salamence and Tyranitar remakes will straight up be 90 minutes long
Amazing! We are waiting the Misdreavus, Mismagius and Flutter Mane remake... And Tyranitar along Iron Thorns will surely be over a hour remake ;)
I feel like the highlight of this video in terms of gameplay footage is the Breloom one shoting the Alakazam with Mach punch.
Wait.
We’re including paradox forms in these videos now?
Well, in that case, I can’t wait for the Misdreavus remake!
24:54 the highlight being ru virizion bashing ttar in ru. When gen 9 is over a ttar update is gona be necessary to cap its eventful gen 9 journey
I’m glad to see BKC’s influence with that comparison to slasher films near the end.
20:59 "Virision dissected the tier like a crazed yet lucid surgeon wielding a machete"
Huh?? That's a crazy comparison
I’m always stunned when someone pronounces a Pokémon a different way that I’ve been for 10* years.
FSG's pronunciation is surely incorrect
Dragalge, magcargo, drifblim, Aegislash or rotom and all of his forms! 💪💪💪
Can you do a theory on items in competitive pokemon? Items that make or break pokemon like thick club and evolite
tfw when you don't get into Scarlet/Violet but a robot that looks quite similar to you does
It's so wild to me that when talking about Gen 9 RU getting massacred by Iron Leaves you showed Tyranitar getting beaten down by Close Combat. It's wild that an OU titan fell so far.
Do the top five paradox Pokémon that turn their useless counterparts into surprising monsters
I'm digging the Sunday release. Much better
7:48 Hey, That's me!
I don't actually play anymore, although I still occasionally watch matches and other stuff related to VGC (including this channel, lol). I generally get a little embarrassed when looking back at some of my old teams and performances, because I was definitely worse at the game back then, so some of my stuff was kinda cringe. I often put off watching certain vids on the channel if I expect that I'll be mentioned, so I think I need to work on my anxiety...
At the time, I'm pretty sure Virizion was mainly around because it matched up well against most rain cores with its high Sp.Def and Grass tying, but outside of that, it really didn't do much special.
As a complete side-note my name has changed since those 2013 tournaments, so I now much prefer to call myself Rina Nishino. I've occasionally thought of getting back into VGC under my new name and country, especially with last year's worlds being held in Japan, but I'm not as closely connected with the VGC community now as I used to be, so it's sometimes difficult to justify when I don't have too many friends to share the experience with.
“Virizion dissected the tier like a crazed, yet lucid surgeon yielding a machete” who tf wrote this script for their creative writing assignment
Finally my favourite outta the trio has gotten their video
Now that we have paradoxes i need "how good were jigglypuff and scream tail actually"
The best part of future paradox pokemon is that they're just waiting for tapu koko to arrive. The second that thing drops you best believe iron leaves is back in ou
I think FSG should do a video of all the paradox pokemon that wont be said in videos bc they've all been put in a video alr (E.g Delibird already has a vid)
17:48 i think you mistyped focus blast into fire blast
24:50
"Though like any slasher villain"
There's the BKC influence
Can’t wait for the hour long video on Terrakion. I’m gonna say that half the video is going to be Terrakion in Gen 5
Ready for the hour long Flutter Mane documentary
Really love that the swords of justice trio are getting attention! Any chances you and your team would ever do a "How good was generation N actually"?
It's Pokedex entries mentions that it has quick movements. Justified is nice and all but maybe we could give it an ability that matches the description like Quick Feet or even Speed Boost.
Didn’t expect the paradox forms to be covered in the normal version’s video but tbh I’m all for it
It's low usage is contributed to it being an event only pokemon, and similarly, the same case applies for Walking Wake.
Virizion is just weak as a defensive profile cause a single flying tera blast would make it go down.
Iron Leaves is just way too limited as it stands, and unless it is Fire or Flying Tera, it has physically no way to counter the prevalent bugs in the tier.
With scald coming back, it's gonna struggle even more.
Battle simulators aren't hindered by such a limitation. Walking Wake is also OU.
Can't wait for my boi Terrakion
0:56 IN GENERATION FOUR
Please do the Charizard theorem.
Why Gimmicks aren't everything.
But how would that relate to Charizard? Charizard's gimmicks have been extremely successful, with Mega X being top tier in singles, Mega Y being very good on both singles and doubles, and Gigantamax being a top tier VGC threat on multiple formats (including the one with resstricted legendaries allowed)
If anything the charizard theorem would be a showcase of the strength of pokemon who can use each generation's gimmicks rather than a proof against it. you'd need a pokemon who never used gems, never had a mega evo, never used z moves and never gigatimaxed.
But all of Charizard's forms have been extremely good, what point are you trying to make?
It would be the opposite, how gimmicks are everything. Both of Charizard's Mega forms were extremely successful in singles, its Y form was defining in doubles, it utilized Z-moves pretty decently from what I understand, its GMax form was very successful in VGC, and from what I understand it's also using Tera pretty successfully
That sounds more like the Smeargle theorem or the baton pass theorem.
LEAVES was absolutely insane in UU even tho it wasnt there by usage in post-home, and still continues to excel on electric terrain teams, especially with lucha to escape first imoression
Personally, I think Iron Leaves shouldn't have been in this video. Paradox Pokémon aren't forms of existing Pokémon they just resemble the existing one. I wouldn't expect Tentacruel and Toedscruel to share a video for the same reason
“A million unfunny Virizion Wireless jokes”
Yep, that’s accurate
104 speed was very good, but it has begun to fall off in OU with the insane levels of speed creep.
The fact that both Breloom and Chesnaught generally outclassed Virizion in Gen 6 OU is a shame. I really love its design.
Edit: changed “Virizuon” to the actual correct spelling.
Coming soon would be Iron Crown as Coballion's Paradox form. Terrakion would likely be next anyway even if it doesn't get a Paradox form alongside Entei
Vir-iz-i-on. That’s how I’ve always pronounced it, and I can’t/won’t stop now. Jokes aside, thank you for another video. I love these and listen to each of them dozens of times while I work. You really help me get through long days, thank you so very much for your content
can't wait for the paradox pokemon video in like a year
i know this is such a niche remake but considering the paradox pokémon it would be cool to see a remake of misdreavous, mismagius, and now fluttermane 👀👀👀 just coming from the number one fan of them lmao
Wacky Buff ideas:
Give it Nasty Plot (it looks so smug)
Give it Aura sphere and Vaccum Wave too I guess?
Give it grassy surge
Give it Seed Flare
How many tiers does it rise?
Don't all the Swords of Justice get Aura Sphere in Gen 8? Or was that just Keldeo? Nasty Plot would be awesome though!
@@georgecortes3416 just keldeo for some reason
Straight to ubers
I wonder if Terrakion will also get a paradox form
Well, yeah. The other two did. Why wouldn't it follow suit? It's not Gamefreak's style to leave one hanging, especially if they're part of a group. That's why Zamazenta got nerfed for example, even though he didn't do the things his sister did.
My favorite of the gen 5 trio overall, and one of the best grass picks if you didn't pick a grass starter (I did but I didn't care I had 2 grass mons)
virizion for me was always a better choice of support for double fights despite the myriad of weaknesses it has for a profile exem... "For a long time it was solid in VGC, a pity that since dynamax appeared and lighter ways to avoid priorities oh screen users left it in the land of absolutely nothing.
5:35 is very curious this mashup, because virizion here seems to have the best advantage-but then Ironleaves and walkin arrive and the matchups are reversed....
16:55 is it me? am i crazy? but since when virizion is able to learn fire blast? i guess it's a mistake in writing synthesis or something like that, because i've never seen virizion have that MU.
I feel like paradox forms should be a different video as they are too different from their regular mons (maybe like a chat video as some of the last videos were)
Fun fact: Virizion was a meme ish mon in most of SS nu till sirfetchd and machamp were banned. It isnt the best non NU fighting type. That goes to gallade. But its still a good mon. cheesing through the water+steel cores that r quite common in NU is big advantage.
Funny Error i saw:
On the RU Gen 8 part, on the commonly used moves part at the left, they put "Fire Blast" on the move pool, instead of "Focus Blast"
I suppose the coverage here proves the upcoming Tyranitar remake will be extra long.
How about predicting its overall length and why you’ll think it’ll be that long? I predict
Gen 2: 8 minutes
Gen 3: 12 minutes
Gen 4 (counting Ubers and VGC from here on out): 15 minutes
Gen 5: 18 minutes
Gen 6: 16 minutes
Gen 7: 16 minutes
Gen 8: 20 minutes
Gen 9: 11 minutes
That equates to almost 2 hours of video time if I’m right. Get ready for Endgame!
Congrats man 100k views in less than 24 hours🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
It feels weird that Virizion and Iron Leaves share a video, because they are fundamentally different pokemon.
Yeah but not really. They are just variants of the original Pokemon at the end of the day
@@grydon6422In terms of how they look and such, yeah. But their stats are sometimes very different, like with Iron Bundle and Slither Wing and most importantly, they're considered different species by the games themselves, with Volcarona and Deliberd for example not getting any benefits for having their Paradox brehtren. Lumping them in just sounds unnecessary.
Verizion is my favorite of the musketeers and I very happily enjoyed using it to fight rain in gen 5 which is where I first started playing. Seeing it fall always hurt a little as I couldn't continue competing with it in OU. I think the way gen 9 ou is right now, if Verizion returned it may actually do better than Iron Leaves just because of fighting stab and its great coverage. A scarf set could do well there, but CM might have potential as well. I don't really like Iron Leaves's design but its nice to the the leaf dear in SOME fashion doing what it does best, which is slicing up the competition with no mercy.
I think trevenant needs a video, it is such an underpowered Pokémon and I love it
17:46 Hm yes, my favorite move of Virizion’s, Fire Blast.
That’s going to be a fun Donphan remake in a few years
Am I seeing things or is there a Fire Blast in Virizion's movset for Gen VIII at the 16:55 mark
We've been examining Competitive Pokémon with FSG for six years now, and I appreciate how we went from "Not OU, it sucks" to giving the lower tiers their due respect.
The low tiers are not something to be mocked anymore. There are so many Good and Legitimately Great Pokémon down there. Their only problem is that the metagames are just too strong. With more ridiculous and Broken Mons emerging in OU, it isn't a badge of shame to be NU or PU anymore. The mighty Metagross and Tyranitar were claimed and even Garchomp was nearly taken away.
Yeah the Onix/Steelix video was very guilty of that
Virizion alongside the rest of its quartet just needs sharpness giving them boosted sacred swords and in case of virizion boosted stab leaf blade as well
can't wait for a video on Torterra's glow up
edit:or Gliscor
I'd love to see a video of all the times pokemon were viable in ubers that really shouldn't have been a la parasect.