How GOOD were Virizion & Iron Leaves ACTUALLY? - History of Competitive Virizion & Iron Leaves

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  • @lillyie
    @lillyie Рік тому +2325

    if paradox pokemon is now gonna be counted, we need a delibird remake!

    • @cristianordonez7976
      @cristianordonez7976 Рік тому +282

      99% of the video gonna the robo birb

    • @rios5944
      @rios5944 Рік тому +229

      Honorable mention: Delibird
      Literally just about enough material for a youtube short

    • @abrahamgamino2276
      @abrahamgamino2276 Рік тому +18

      Delibird sucks one of the worst pokemon.

    • @Rubyshedinja33
      @Rubyshedinja33 Рік тому +30

      You better watch out
      You better not cry
      You better not pout cause I'm telling ya why

    • @ianluk6385
      @ianluk6385 Рік тому +80

      I feel like we'd need a Donphan remake more than Delibird. Donphan has two paradox forms, and its video is pretty outdated

  • @ModernGamer_MG
    @ModernGamer_MG Рік тому +734

    16:45 I'm Joseph :)
    I chose Virizion over kartana for a few reasons. Having stone edge for Charizard, volcarona, and Zapdos was valuable, and scope lens meant leaf blade and stone edge would crit 50% of the time.
    It was meant to counter teams commonly used by the Californian players, sun and rain

    • @TheRealAquaz
      @TheRealAquaz Рік тому +51

      Vote for Pin. Also congrats to your placements m8

    • @noremac7216
      @noremac7216 Рік тому +23

      50% crit rate on 2 moves with such a good coverage together is insane

    • @TheOtherNeutrino
      @TheOtherNeutrino Рік тому +16

      Technically, Stone Edge would crit 40% of the time when accounting for its infamous accuracy.

    • @LEGEND-sp9ev
      @LEGEND-sp9ev Рік тому +2

      W team. Congratulations for your placements man ❤

    • @10jr92
      @10jr92 Рік тому +5

      ​@TheOtherNeutrino I might be in the minority, but I land a lot more Stone Edges than I probably should. In fact, I'd be as bold to say that I've missed more Play Roughs than Stone Edges. Those accuracies should be swapped 😂😂

  • @Fletch_078
    @Fletch_078 Рік тому +795

    Virizion really can’t escape a 4x weakness, even when it’s a robot.

    • @kinghasturFFFF00
      @kinghasturFFFF00 Рік тому +191

      it makes sense that the weakness of a robot is a bug

    • @MaahirMomtaz12
      @MaahirMomtaz12 Рік тому +45

      With the exception of Iron Crown, both Iron Leaves and Paradox Terrakion have a Bug weakness

    • @Ascera_exists
      @Ascera_exists Рік тому +4

      @@kinghasturFFFF00True

    • @mysticpumpkin8520
      @mysticpumpkin8520 Рік тому +22

      ​@@MaahirMomtaz12Paradox Terrakion doesnt even exists yet......

    • @VeganLatte
      @VeganLatte Рік тому +1

      But it's still so good

  • @WhizKidNate
    @WhizKidNate Рік тому +555

    My favorite trope in this series is "The Pokemon dropped to so-and-so tier, where it was IMMEDIATELY banned."

    • @imtheonewhoaskedlol
      @imtheonewhoaskedlol Рік тому +19

      What about "UNFORTUNATELY"?

    • @DiegoG2004
      @DiegoG2004 Рік тому +9

      The Pokemon keeps going down in the tiers until it reaches one it completely melts and then it's stuck in BL or in the awkward spot of too bad for its tier but too strong for the one below.

    • @KeDe1606
      @KeDe1606 Рік тому +19

      @@DiegoG2004or it‘s a special case, like Staraptor. Where, since it’s inception, it’s been in UUBL limbo for like 4-5 generations

    • @mrtrollnator123
      @mrtrollnator123 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@KeDe1606i think in gen 9 its finally in an actual tier

    • @KeDe1606
      @KeDe1606 11 місяців тому

      @@mrtrollnator123 oh thank god. Finally. Do you know which tier that is?

  • @sandrahwu
    @sandrahwu Рік тому +544

    I’m just surprised by how many Focus Blasts you guys managed to land for this video.

    • @matteodotdpsatgmaildotcom2451
      @matteodotdpsatgmaildotcom2451 Рік тому +41

      So much so that it turned into fire blast in the popular moves list

    • @DeinoChenus
      @DeinoChenus Рік тому +20

      Gotta love fire blast virizion

    • @grydon6422
      @grydon6422 Рік тому +19

      _Video material gathered for 10 years to make that possible_

    • @awakusutv1574
      @awakusutv1574 Рік тому +2

      They either Skill Swaped No Guard to it or had to try many many times until it landed

  • @bradensmith8682
    @bradensmith8682 Рік тому +239

    Outspeeding many fire types like Charizard Y and knocking them out with Stone Edge is such an amazing feeling. Same with Durant, but overall, Virizion was much more consistent until Clefable became more relevant.

    • @bobfrank7339
      @bobfrank7339 Рік тому +11

      Until it eventually misses ofc

    • @felixma9192
      @felixma9192 Рік тому +19

      @@bobfrank7339physical rock type move moment

    • @Pam234
      @Pam234 Рік тому

      @@felixma9192 is power gem the only non signature rock move that is 100% accurate?

    • @felixma9192
      @felixma9192 Рік тому +2

      @@Pam234 smack down and salt cure as well

    • @Pam234
      @Pam234 Рік тому

      @@felixma9192 salt cure is a signature move

  • @amateraceon5202
    @amateraceon5202 Рік тому +386

    I like how they were given the chance to make a cool future robot version of Virizion in SV but they still felt the need to make it look like the robot was wearing shoes

    • @ianluk6385
      @ianluk6385 Рік тому +53

      I kinda like Virizion/Iron Leaves' boots. They give it some nice flair and personality

    • @MaahirMomtaz12
      @MaahirMomtaz12 Рік тому +19

      They look more like hooves

    •  Рік тому

      Or boots.@@MaahirMomtaz12

    • @sonofhades57
      @sonofhades57 Рік тому +2

      It looks like its front legs are broken.

    • @brendanboomhour7606
      @brendanboomhour7606 Рік тому +10

      ​@@MaahirMomtaz12at the bottom, yes, but higher up they look like stereotypical boots worn by Renaissance musketeers

  • @Hnui03
    @Hnui03 Рік тому +295

    The Paradox inclusions now have me thinking, how FORESHADOWING was DONPHAN actually!??
    Donphan being one of your first videos also deserves a remake too, Donphan has been a surprisingly understated goat for several generations with its occasional ventures into OU being a product of its more primal ancestors dormant DNA

    • @mandalorianhunter1
      @mandalorianhunter1 Рік тому +2

      You already knew it was coming

    • @PlatinumStrife
      @PlatinumStrife Рік тому +19

      And also his future descendants being a actually decent Pokémon in Ubers even though it sits in UU

    • @mandalorianhunter1
      @mandalorianhunter1 Рік тому +5

      @@PlatinumStrife I honestly think it will go back to OU when the indigo disk comes back

    • @papershadow
      @papershadow Рік тому +17

      @@PlatinumStrife Iron Treads is funny how its two best tiers are Ubers as a Miraidon and co. check, the skips OU to become UU's Great Tusk

    • @MidoseitoAkage
      @MidoseitoAkage Рік тому +4

      Great Tusk is the most overrated mon of the current meta and funny to say, I really love it.

  • @gengstar09
    @gengstar09 Рік тому +134

    When Iron leaves was a raid boss, it had E terrain set up. I wish the paradox Pokémon had a damaging move that also sets up either sunny day or eterrain

    • @brendanboomhour7606
      @brendanboomhour7606 Рік тому +22

      Yeah, it wouldn't even need to be ridiculously powerful either, 40-60 base would be just fine

    • @waters_1020
      @waters_1020 Рік тому

      @@brendanboomhour7606knowing gamefreak itd probably be around 75-85bp

    • @iplayonatoaster5406
      @iplayonatoaster5406 Рік тому +18

      Even just a better E terrain setter might make it viable again. Pincurchin just doesnt do enough for anyone to use it. If Tapu Koko comes back into Scarlet and Violet, Paradox mons are going to have a field day.

    • @dylangardinerthesmollestbo7902
      @dylangardinerthesmollestbo7902 Рік тому +4

      @@iplayonatoaster5406I remember one time a made an ou team of pincurchin and five future paradox Mons and it worked better than I expected. Everything was really fast and hit pretty hard

  • @PkmnTrainerEmerald
    @PkmnTrainerEmerald Рік тому +35

    You forgot to mention how Virizion came in 2nd at worlds in 2013 with Fuko Nakamichi vs Brendan Zheng. It didn't come into the battle but the weavile that she had on the team had beat up making it likely it was the beat up strategy to raise the attack of Virizion. That's one thing I think was needed to be talked about. Other than that it was cool seeing you talk about iron leaves too!

  • @GoldGuard
    @GoldGuard Рік тому +191

    Missed opportunity to call it’s paradox form Iron Wireless

    • @camillalapolentona84480
      @camillalapolentona84480 Рік тому +13

      It wouldn't fit the 12 letters limit

    • @TheRedStinger82
      @TheRedStinger82 Рік тому +5

      Amazing

    • @GoldGuard
      @GoldGuard Рік тому +10

      @@camillalapolentona84480Better than Iron Leaves which doesn’t even sound legendary or special at all. A name like that could apply to pretty much any other Grass type Pokémon.
      Something like Iron Xylem would’ve been cooler

    • @mysticpumpkin8520
      @mysticpumpkin8520 Рік тому +14

      ​@@GoldGuard tbh "Iron Xylem" is something sounds cool for the novelty but goes all around to be stupid over how edgy ot tries to sound😅

    • @DarthFhenix55
      @DarthFhenix55 Рік тому +17

      ​@@GoldGuardHonestly, one of the most iconic legendaries is called cat sound + two. So I think Iron Leaves is fine.

  • @ogfatalis2713
    @ogfatalis2713 Рік тому +35

    One thing you forgot to mention about Virizion was its recent resurgence in ORAS UU

  • @justinnzamora5366
    @justinnzamora5366 Рік тому +101

    I'm expecting the Salamence remake to include it's prehistoric form in Roaring Moon. Same goes for Volcarona and it's two Paradox forms in Slither Wing & Iron Moth.

    • @cheyanne2001
      @cheyanne2001 Рік тому +16

      And the Gen 9 Volc ban to Ubers cos Tera Grass was OP on it lol. Volc has had a very interesting competitive career

    • @Hilight277
      @Hilight277 Рік тому +6

      @@cheyanne2001also heavy duty boots

    • @cheyanne2001
      @cheyanne2001 Рік тому +3

      @@Hilight277 true! heavy duty boots were a godsend to let it hit the field safely

    • @lessgochamp646
      @lessgochamp646 Рік тому

      @@cheyanne2001 more like a curse. This item shouldn't have existed

    • @cheyanne2001
      @cheyanne2001 Рік тому +2

      @@lessgochamp646 nah, Heavy Duty Boots were kinda needed, considering how freaking common and determental Rocks, Spikes, T-Spikes and Web were to opposing teams. It shut down so many mons for free which kinda sucked lol

  • @togakhan1274
    @togakhan1274 Рік тому +27

    Actually at the time of this video, Iron Leaves is UUBL for some reason. Also, there is a typo of Fire Blast in Virizion moves section in gen 7 or 8.

  • @hershy1594
    @hershy1594 Рік тому +17

    It would've been really cool to see iron leaves get an electric grass typing. It doesn't get that nasty 4x weakness to u turn and with coverage could be a great sweeper

  • @jaidenbeloved
    @jaidenbeloved Рік тому +22

    My favorite sword of justice! I’ve been waiting for the group to be complete

  • @stefans4751
    @stefans4751 Рік тому +113

    If you include Paradoxes with their normal versions the eventual Donphan remake is gonna break Lando's record for video length

    • @megasean3000
      @megasean3000 Рік тому +28

      Iron Treads, Great Tusks _and_ Donphan? 💀

    • @tylerd1297
      @tylerd1297 Рік тому +11

      Flutter Mane and bundle too being that they're legal in VGC

    • @motoyeerma3377
      @motoyeerma3377 Рік тому +17

      What about Volcarona, Iron Moth and Slither Wing?

    • @wallapi1188
      @wallapi1188 Рік тому +3

      ​@@motoyeerma3377Volc alone would be a lengthy video since it was banned from OU

  • @o0_VanYsH_0o
    @o0_VanYsH_0o Рік тому +19

    @False Swipe Gaming about 6 years from now, I can't wait for "How Good Was Baxcalibur Actually"

  • @MazterP28
    @MazterP28 Рік тому +21

    Shiny virizion looks amazing. Perfect for spring the season

  • @okispokis7261
    @okispokis7261 Рік тому +9

    16:56 Ah yes, my beloved Fire Blast Virizion

  • @danielferrieri7434
    @danielferrieri7434 Рік тому +19

    I like watching these mostly for the Competitive Clips in the middle rather how good the Pokémon were Competitively

  • @arshianhassan395
    @arshianhassan395 Рік тому +10

    16:56 virizion getting fire blast in gen 8 is peak pokemon moment

    • @racejones5939
      @racejones5939 10 місяців тому

      But Virizion cannot learn Fire Blast!

    • @arshianhassan395
      @arshianhassan395 10 місяців тому

      ​@@racejones5939i was being sarcastic. Click the timestamp and see the popular moves section

    • @racejones5939
      @racejones5939 10 місяців тому

      @@arshianhassan395 well, I accept that.

  • @ruiribeiro8010
    @ruiribeiro8010 Рік тому +24

    This mon has a whole lot more in its record than i had initially predicted.

  • @Twin138956Productions2019
    @Twin138956Productions2019 Рік тому +22

    I wonder what Past Entei and Future Terrakion would look like

    • @mintsushi9598
      @mintsushi9598 Рік тому +5

      raging heat / iron rock (very original)

    • @KinglerCookie
      @KinglerCookie Рік тому +3

      they're already leaked so you can search it up

    • @mintsushi9598
      @mintsushi9598 Рік тому +1

      fake lol

    • @jesusaguirre2150
      @jesusaguirre2150 Рік тому +5

      Entei better be thicc

    • @georgecortes3416
      @georgecortes3416 Рік тому +1

      Something tells me Paradox Entei will be a triceratops or a T-Rex. Wonder what its signature move will be: Walking Wake gets a Water-move that gets a power boost in Sun AND Rain, Raging Bolt gets Electric-Type Sucker Punch, so we'll eventually see what this signature Fire move will be...

  • @dylanbuchanan6511
    @dylanbuchanan6511 Рік тому +3

    I really liked using Virizion in Gen 5 OU. Yeah it was UU but had great special bulk and good HP and GREAT speed tier meaning it could set up SS with no problem. Its type combination was good enough at helping stave off the common rain teams you see so much both offensively and defensively and paired real nice with leftovers. In my opinion, a fairly underrated grass type

  • @gretchling5012
    @gretchling5012 Рік тому +4

    i know people like to knock the future designs, but i really like how they look in-game. iron leaves' weird ferrofluid blades are dope

  • @Stephen_809
    @Stephen_809 Рік тому

    The algorithm did you well with this one for me at least, kept getting recommended so here I am finally watching. Keep up the great content, thank you

  • @dragonlord8525
    @dragonlord8525 Рік тому +3

    Next week is the 1 hour terrakion vid 😂

  • @lawofson
    @lawofson Рік тому +2

    7:45 I'm Blake. I was really young when I made this team so I just put cool and strong pokemon into and placed well lol, also the gliscor was a full odds shiny named "legit". I didnt even know about natures, IVs or EVs.

  • @snapclub8751
    @snapclub8751 Рік тому +3

    One more Swords of Justice member left, and I have no doubt in my mind that Terrakion will have a one hour video.

  • @videakias3000
    @videakias3000 Рік тому +18

    idea for a new theorem video:
    "the Ash Ketcham theorem: why "skill" is not only limited in teambuilding and understsanding of the mechanics".
    reading your opponent and predicting possible outcomes matters too.
    most of the top players in "random battles" are the same players in the other regular formats.
    and random battles is a format where the players are given zero control on team building.

  • @weatherseed8994
    @weatherseed8994 Рік тому

    I love Virizion and Cobalion as a casual player. They have amazing designs and interesting backgrounds. They have consistently been among my favorite Pokémon since their release. Iron Leaves is just as incredible, along with Iron Crown, and they are all tied with being my favorite future paradox Pokémon with Iron Valiant. Seeing their impact, no matter the size, into the competitive scene is fascinating.
    You're the only Pokémon UA-camr I watch. You're videos are great to watch and let me glimpse at a world of Pokémon I am not a part of. Seeing my favorite Pokémon featured in your episodes always brings a smile to my face.

  • @lorddarkrai5753
    @lorddarkrai5753 Рік тому +7

    Imagine False Swipe drop the following in October: "We will only release one video this month , at the end of October.See you then!"
    My guess would be "Rotom is coming"

    • @misirtere9836
      @misirtere9836 Рік тому +8

      jesse what the hell are you talkin about

  • @aidanlarimore4391
    @aidanlarimore4391 Рік тому +2

    17:36 ah yes my favorite move to run on Virizion, Fire Blast

  • @dukesmith3381
    @dukesmith3381 Рік тому +1

    Hey, Virizion! Virizion's VGC 2012 analysis was the only one I ever posted to Smogon ^_^ It doesn't credit me, but I wrote it XD

  • @jamiewilliams5309
    @jamiewilliams5309 Рік тому +2

    Man I used this a lot with AV in the gen 8 unrestricted format with beat up and tailwind support. After maxing it took hardly anything from Kyogre's Ice Beam and threatened both it and Groudon. And it left both unrestricted slots open. So many people would be caught off guard by it, guess people didn't know what to expect from it as an offensive threat? Sure it got slammed by a bunch *cough* Zacian but what didn't? Was funny to ruin people who'd spam the weather duo though.

  • @Seth_rs
    @Seth_rs Рік тому +1

    I remember one of my favorite poketuber said back in the day using a special set of virizion vs heatran: i have a useless stab and the other is giga drain (referring to focus blast)

  • @SeriousStriker
    @SeriousStriker Рік тому +4

    If you're doing Paldea already, then the Bisharp and Donphan remake videos would go quite hard.

  • @Treeko13
    @Treeko13 Рік тому +1

    11:30 Jackson evolved his Clefa and went up a spot

  • @MightyMobileMatt
    @MightyMobileMatt Рік тому +3

    Shoutout to Virizion from Mystery Dungeon Gates To Infinity. One of the better characters in the series.

  • @vtmagno23
    @vtmagno23 Рік тому +3

    Oooo, we're pairing paradox pokemon with their inspirations? Can't wait for "How GOOD were Average Tusk and Great Tusk and Elon Tusk ACTUALLY?"

    • @Giratina575
      @Giratina575 Рік тому

      How bad was iron jugulis actually

    • @bluekirby_64
      @bluekirby_64 Рік тому

      ​@@Giratina575 No match for the dreaded Iron Mugulis

  • @boop53
    @boop53 Рік тому +16

    this confirms that the Salamence and Tyranitar remakes will straight up be 90 minutes long

  • @leandrolopes5888
    @leandrolopes5888 Рік тому +1

    Amazing! We are waiting the Misdreavus, Mismagius and Flutter Mane remake... And Tyranitar along Iron Thorns will surely be over a hour remake ;)

  • @lutoph
    @lutoph Рік тому +1

    I feel like the highlight of this video in terms of gameplay footage is the Breloom one shoting the Alakazam with Mach punch.

  • @Matpit18
    @Matpit18 Рік тому +1

    Wait.
    We’re including paradox forms in these videos now?
    Well, in that case, I can’t wait for the Misdreavus remake!

  • @zihaoguo6649
    @zihaoguo6649 Рік тому +1

    24:54 the highlight being ru virizion bashing ttar in ru. When gen 9 is over a ttar update is gona be necessary to cap its eventful gen 9 journey

  • @dysr
    @dysr Рік тому

    I’m glad to see BKC’s influence with that comparison to slasher films near the end.

  • @Super_EpicGuy
    @Super_EpicGuy Рік тому +1

    20:59 "Virision dissected the tier like a crazed yet lucid surgeon wielding a machete"
    Huh?? That's a crazy comparison

  • @Quell_Walden
    @Quell_Walden Рік тому +18

    I’m always stunned when someone pronounces a Pokémon a different way that I’ve been for 10* years.

  • @YesImJoeKing
    @YesImJoeKing Рік тому +2

    Dragalge, magcargo, drifblim, Aegislash or rotom and all of his forms! 💪💪💪

  • @eeveewithcoffee9554
    @eeveewithcoffee9554 Рік тому +5

    Can you do a theory on items in competitive pokemon? Items that make or break pokemon like thick club and evolite

  • @SemiHypercube
    @SemiHypercube Рік тому +2

    tfw when you don't get into Scarlet/Violet but a robot that looks quite similar to you does

  • @Dr.Deluxe
    @Dr.Deluxe Рік тому +1

    It's so wild to me that when talking about Gen 9 RU getting massacred by Iron Leaves you showed Tyranitar getting beaten down by Close Combat. It's wild that an OU titan fell so far.

  • @joseparra4322
    @joseparra4322 Рік тому +2

    Do the top five paradox Pokémon that turn their useless counterparts into surprising monsters

  • @stephenveerasammy3074
    @stephenveerasammy3074 Рік тому +1

    I'm digging the Sunday release. Much better

  • @Rinabow
    @Rinabow Рік тому +3

    7:48 Hey, That's me!
    I don't actually play anymore, although I still occasionally watch matches and other stuff related to VGC (including this channel, lol). I generally get a little embarrassed when looking back at some of my old teams and performances, because I was definitely worse at the game back then, so some of my stuff was kinda cringe. I often put off watching certain vids on the channel if I expect that I'll be mentioned, so I think I need to work on my anxiety...
    At the time, I'm pretty sure Virizion was mainly around because it matched up well against most rain cores with its high Sp.Def and Grass tying, but outside of that, it really didn't do much special.
    As a complete side-note my name has changed since those 2013 tournaments, so I now much prefer to call myself Rina Nishino. I've occasionally thought of getting back into VGC under my new name and country, especially with last year's worlds being held in Japan, but I'm not as closely connected with the VGC community now as I used to be, so it's sometimes difficult to justify when I don't have too many friends to share the experience with.

  • @parkermiller1631
    @parkermiller1631 Рік тому +1

    “Virizion dissected the tier like a crazed, yet lucid surgeon yielding a machete” who tf wrote this script for their creative writing assignment

  • @AutisticStatic
    @AutisticStatic Рік тому

    Finally my favourite outta the trio has gotten their video

  • @julianokohlerdasilva3629
    @julianokohlerdasilva3629 Рік тому +6

    Now that we have paradoxes i need "how good were jigglypuff and scream tail actually"

  • @fireheart4560
    @fireheart4560 Рік тому

    The best part of future paradox pokemon is that they're just waiting for tapu koko to arrive. The second that thing drops you best believe iron leaves is back in ou

  • @plazmatic2664
    @plazmatic2664 Рік тому +1

    I think FSG should do a video of all the paradox pokemon that wont be said in videos bc they've all been put in a video alr (E.g Delibird already has a vid)

  • @SACREDSCIZOR9116
    @SACREDSCIZOR9116 Рік тому +2

    17:48 i think you mistyped focus blast into fire blast

  • @Hanesboi
    @Hanesboi Рік тому

    24:50
    "Though like any slasher villain"
    There's the BKC influence

  • @awesomeraichu59342
    @awesomeraichu59342 Рік тому

    Can’t wait for the hour long video on Terrakion. I’m gonna say that half the video is going to be Terrakion in Gen 5

  • @dylansturdivant5404
    @dylansturdivant5404 Рік тому

    Ready for the hour long Flutter Mane documentary

  • @rin-zj4dt
    @rin-zj4dt Рік тому +1

    Really love that the swords of justice trio are getting attention! Any chances you and your team would ever do a "How good was generation N actually"?

  • @Mcflyeon
    @Mcflyeon Рік тому

    It's Pokedex entries mentions that it has quick movements. Justified is nice and all but maybe we could give it an ability that matches the description like Quick Feet or even Speed Boost.

  • @chilln0648
    @chilln0648 Рік тому +11

    Didn’t expect the paradox forms to be covered in the normal version’s video but tbh I’m all for it

  • @metayoshi1712
    @metayoshi1712 Рік тому +1

    It's low usage is contributed to it being an event only pokemon, and similarly, the same case applies for Walking Wake.
    Virizion is just weak as a defensive profile cause a single flying tera blast would make it go down.
    Iron Leaves is just way too limited as it stands, and unless it is Fire or Flying Tera, it has physically no way to counter the prevalent bugs in the tier.
    With scald coming back, it's gonna struggle even more.

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 Рік тому +1

      Battle simulators aren't hindered by such a limitation. Walking Wake is also OU.

  • @Ryano35
    @Ryano35 Рік тому +1

    Can't wait for my boi Terrakion

  • @MortanAMrk
    @MortanAMrk 7 місяців тому +2

    0:56 IN GENERATION FOUR

  • @migueldemendonca2398
    @migueldemendonca2398 Рік тому +13

    Please do the Charizard theorem.
    Why Gimmicks aren't everything.

    • @Ropalme1914
      @Ropalme1914 Рік тому +2

      But how would that relate to Charizard? Charizard's gimmicks have been extremely successful, with Mega X being top tier in singles, Mega Y being very good on both singles and doubles, and Gigantamax being a top tier VGC threat on multiple formats (including the one with resstricted legendaries allowed)

    • @kr555wizard
      @kr555wizard Рік тому +6

      If anything the charizard theorem would be a showcase of the strength of pokemon who can use each generation's gimmicks rather than a proof against it. you'd need a pokemon who never used gems, never had a mega evo, never used z moves and never gigatimaxed.

    • @bobbybobby788
      @bobbybobby788 Рік тому +2

      But all of Charizard's forms have been extremely good, what point are you trying to make?

    • @ianluk6385
      @ianluk6385 Рік тому +3

      It would be the opposite, how gimmicks are everything. Both of Charizard's Mega forms were extremely successful in singles, its Y form was defining in doubles, it utilized Z-moves pretty decently from what I understand, its GMax form was very successful in VGC, and from what I understand it's also using Tera pretty successfully

    • @DarthFhenix55
      @DarthFhenix55 Рік тому +2

      That sounds more like the Smeargle theorem or the baton pass theorem.

  • @theclew47
    @theclew47 Рік тому

    LEAVES was absolutely insane in UU even tho it wasnt there by usage in post-home, and still continues to excel on electric terrain teams, especially with lucha to escape first imoression

  • @Patziken
    @Patziken Рік тому +3

    Personally, I think Iron Leaves shouldn't have been in this video. Paradox Pokémon aren't forms of existing Pokémon they just resemble the existing one. I wouldn't expect Tentacruel and Toedscruel to share a video for the same reason

  • @lory3771
    @lory3771 Рік тому +1

    “A million unfunny Virizion Wireless jokes”
    Yep, that’s accurate

  • @NobodyDungeons
    @NobodyDungeons Рік тому +2

    104 speed was very good, but it has begun to fall off in OU with the insane levels of speed creep.

  • @Nullmeo
    @Nullmeo Рік тому +1

    The fact that both Breloom and Chesnaught generally outclassed Virizion in Gen 6 OU is a shame. I really love its design.
    Edit: changed “Virizuon” to the actual correct spelling.

  • @tktyga77
    @tktyga77 Рік тому

    Coming soon would be Iron Crown as Coballion's Paradox form. Terrakion would likely be next anyway even if it doesn't get a Paradox form alongside Entei

  • @HarveyMeadowlark
    @HarveyMeadowlark Рік тому

    Vir-iz-i-on. That’s how I’ve always pronounced it, and I can’t/won’t stop now. Jokes aside, thank you for another video. I love these and listen to each of them dozens of times while I work. You really help me get through long days, thank you so very much for your content

  • @jetpackdog3427
    @jetpackdog3427 11 місяців тому

    can't wait for the paradox pokemon video in like a year

  • @pastelprince1690
    @pastelprince1690 Рік тому

    i know this is such a niche remake but considering the paradox pokémon it would be cool to see a remake of misdreavous, mismagius, and now fluttermane 👀👀👀 just coming from the number one fan of them lmao

  • @yungmuney5903
    @yungmuney5903 Рік тому +1

    Wacky Buff ideas:
    Give it Nasty Plot (it looks so smug)
    Give it Aura sphere and Vaccum Wave too I guess?
    Give it grassy surge
    Give it Seed Flare
    How many tiers does it rise?

    • @georgecortes3416
      @georgecortes3416 Рік тому

      Don't all the Swords of Justice get Aura Sphere in Gen 8? Or was that just Keldeo? Nasty Plot would be awesome though!

    • @yungmuney5903
      @yungmuney5903 Рік тому +1

      ​@@georgecortes3416 just keldeo for some reason

    • @talonitex6441
      @talonitex6441 Рік тому

      Straight to ubers

  • @ruileite4579
    @ruileite4579 Рік тому +3

    I wonder if Terrakion will also get a paradox form

    • @GoinGreninja
      @GoinGreninja Рік тому

      Well, yeah. The other two did. Why wouldn't it follow suit? It's not Gamefreak's style to leave one hanging, especially if they're part of a group. That's why Zamazenta got nerfed for example, even though he didn't do the things his sister did.

  • @thetky_clan666
    @thetky_clan666 Рік тому

    My favorite of the gen 5 trio overall, and one of the best grass picks if you didn't pick a grass starter (I did but I didn't care I had 2 grass mons)

  • @CrownedHunter79
    @CrownedHunter79 Рік тому +1

    virizion for me was always a better choice of support for double fights despite the myriad of weaknesses it has for a profile exem... "For a long time it was solid in VGC, a pity that since dynamax appeared and lighter ways to avoid priorities oh screen users left it in the land of absolutely nothing.
    5:35 is very curious this mashup, because virizion here seems to have the best advantage-but then Ironleaves and walkin arrive and the matchups are reversed....
    16:55 is it me? am i crazy? but since when virizion is able to learn fire blast? i guess it's a mistake in writing synthesis or something like that, because i've never seen virizion have that MU.

  • @tibi_lares
    @tibi_lares Рік тому +2

    I feel like paradox forms should be a different video as they are too different from their regular mons (maybe like a chat video as some of the last videos were)

  • @IndiraDevi-yq6vm
    @IndiraDevi-yq6vm Рік тому +5

    Fun fact: Virizion was a meme ish mon in most of SS nu till sirfetchd and machamp were banned. It isnt the best non NU fighting type. That goes to gallade. But its still a good mon. cheesing through the water+steel cores that r quite common in NU is big advantage.

  • @BackOff_xd
    @BackOff_xd 9 місяців тому

    Funny Error i saw:
    On the RU Gen 8 part, on the commonly used moves part at the left, they put "Fire Blast" on the move pool, instead of "Focus Blast"

  • @skeetermania3202
    @skeetermania3202 Рік тому

    I suppose the coverage here proves the upcoming Tyranitar remake will be extra long.
    How about predicting its overall length and why you’ll think it’ll be that long? I predict
    Gen 2: 8 minutes
    Gen 3: 12 minutes
    Gen 4 (counting Ubers and VGC from here on out): 15 minutes
    Gen 5: 18 minutes
    Gen 6: 16 minutes
    Gen 7: 16 minutes
    Gen 8: 20 minutes
    Gen 9: 11 minutes
    That equates to almost 2 hours of video time if I’m right. Get ready for Endgame!

  • @fabiaaquino2207
    @fabiaaquino2207 Рік тому

    Congrats man 100k views in less than 24 hours🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @Igorcastrochucre
    @Igorcastrochucre Рік тому +3

    It feels weird that Virizion and Iron Leaves share a video, because they are fundamentally different pokemon.

    • @grydon6422
      @grydon6422 Рік тому +2

      Yeah but not really. They are just variants of the original Pokemon at the end of the day

    • @GoinGreninja
      @GoinGreninja Рік тому

      ​@@grydon6422In terms of how they look and such, yeah. But their stats are sometimes very different, like with Iron Bundle and Slither Wing and most importantly, they're considered different species by the games themselves, with Volcarona and Deliberd for example not getting any benefits for having their Paradox brehtren. Lumping them in just sounds unnecessary.

  • @LoDart210
    @LoDart210 Рік тому

    Verizion is my favorite of the musketeers and I very happily enjoyed using it to fight rain in gen 5 which is where I first started playing. Seeing it fall always hurt a little as I couldn't continue competing with it in OU. I think the way gen 9 ou is right now, if Verizion returned it may actually do better than Iron Leaves just because of fighting stab and its great coverage. A scarf set could do well there, but CM might have potential as well. I don't really like Iron Leaves's design but its nice to the the leaf dear in SOME fashion doing what it does best, which is slicing up the competition with no mercy.

  • @aidanzacher6973
    @aidanzacher6973 Рік тому

    I think trevenant needs a video, it is such an underpowered Pokémon and I love it

  • @brycearnzen700
    @brycearnzen700 Рік тому

    17:46 Hm yes, my favorite move of Virizion’s, Fire Blast.

  • @oxygen3143
    @oxygen3143 Рік тому

    That’s going to be a fun Donphan remake in a few years

  • @atn5944
    @atn5944 Рік тому +1

    Am I seeing things or is there a Fire Blast in Virizion's movset for Gen VIII at the 16:55 mark

  • @EdmacZ
    @EdmacZ Рік тому

    We've been examining Competitive Pokémon with FSG for six years now, and I appreciate how we went from "Not OU, it sucks" to giving the lower tiers their due respect.
    The low tiers are not something to be mocked anymore. There are so many Good and Legitimately Great Pokémon down there. Their only problem is that the metagames are just too strong. With more ridiculous and Broken Mons emerging in OU, it isn't a badge of shame to be NU or PU anymore. The mighty Metagross and Tyranitar were claimed and even Garchomp was nearly taken away.

    • @CaptainJLinebeck
      @CaptainJLinebeck Рік тому

      Yeah the Onix/Steelix video was very guilty of that

  • @arshianhassan395
    @arshianhassan395 Рік тому

    Virizion alongside the rest of its quartet just needs sharpness giving them boosted sacred swords and in case of virizion boosted stab leaf blade as well

  • @Rose-85
    @Rose-85 Рік тому

    can't wait for a video on Torterra's glow up
    edit:or Gliscor

  • @seanmegahy3468
    @seanmegahy3468 Рік тому

    I'd love to see a video of all the times pokemon were viable in ubers that really shouldn't have been a la parasect.