2010 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport vs. 2010 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 - CAR and DRIVER
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2010 Chevy Corvette Grand Sport vs. 2010 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 - Comparison Test
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I need a car, it will either be a 2011 Mustang GT, or a 2006 corvette C6. both cost $15,000 and i will use it as a daily driver.
good luck finding c6 2006 for 15k maybe with 150k miles or 2011 gt at least 20k
+Bigbooster126 get an 03 terminator thats where its at! for that price of course
@@fantomg100 here we are years later and an 06-07 vette is easily obtainable for $15k with under 100k miles. In fact you can get decent 08+ ls3 cars for $15-18k if you're patient enough! Meanwhile the terminators have gone up in value (not a bad thing) but for performance aspect the vette is a superior option 😁
@@nickadkins7765 Which confirms Ugly's statement five years ago ;
CORVETTES DON'T HOLD THERE. VALUE.TAKE MY 04 COBRA RIGHT NOW TODAY IN 2021 AND PUT IT NEXT TOO A 04 CORVETTE! WHAT CAR IS MORE VALUABLE. IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE MY TERMINATOR. OR EVEN A 93 40TH ANNIVERSARY CORVETTE NEXT TO MY SVT 93 COBRA. ONCE AGAIN THE COBRA BY BOAT LOADS.
shelby = muscle car corvette = sportscar this is uncompareable
Funny when the Shelby is in a shootout with the Challenger they whine...Challenger= muscle car Shelby = sportscar ;
Possibly cross shopping these two for sometime next year. Glad I found this 👍!
Some of you guys down there on the comments, comparing the gt500 vs a base model vette, change it up a bit?? Of course gt500 is going t smash a base model. Well kind of. I mean that gt500 was struggling against an almost base model vette. It'd definitely struggle against the zo6 and I don't think it would have a chance against the zr1.
Lol. It wouldn’t beat the base model either. This is a base model with a couple minor improvements.
THIS CORVETTE IS THE KIN KING INTERNATIONAL
Odd. My 2012 GS doesn't have a floppy passenger seat, though I'd say every 'Vette has it's "quirks". 'Mur'ca!
A better latching mechanism was part of the 2012 seat upgrade.
@BEBNC1 nice. me too! like a thorough comparison, cutting out as much variable as possible
I'm a mustang guy, & my friend has a Shelby GT-500. It's heavy (4100lbs) & you feel the lag from that. The 500+hp Supercharged 5.4L provides nice rip through the gears. However, my Honda Shadow 750 & GSX-R 750 are easily able to take it on the 1/4m. Its NOT a race-track car. Just too heavy. A GT-500 is a retro influenced modern muscle car.
BUT the C6 Corvette line (GS, Z06) competes easily with cars worth $250,000-$500,000 or more. It's America's finest and a SPORT CAR!
Not a good comparison.
3 seconds behind on a 2 mile track? Thats more impressive than i thought it was going to be.
Really where did you find that.
I remember trying to find it out a year ago and I couldn't find it anywhere.
I totally agree! Although in older model vettes (C2 - C4) the U joints weren't the toughest you could get. My uncle nearly died due to U joint failure. He was going down the highway when the U joint broke then his right wheel locked up and he crashed into a ditch I've heard plenty of other similar stories, Anyway I own a 1980 corvette and the first thing I did was buy a pair of heavy duty U-joints.
I'm a GM guy, but I gotta say. That GT500 is gorgeous and kinda pratical. I love it.
That is why I want one. C&D tested the 08 C6 Convertible Auto and it ran 12.4 @ 116 mph. There is a guy on here with an 08 auto that runs consistent 12.30s @ just under 118 mph. That is moving for a stock car. The 6 speed auto is a 6L80 rated for some serious hp with a 4.02 1st gear. Stock 08+ LS3s dyno 380s/390s (auto/man). With a Cam, they run high 10s.
@nkx1 I understand that but just what is the problem? I've been in a newer vette and I liked the interior.
@ZO6George that is just the camaro is a new model! how many recalls has there been on the 2010 camaro?
Actually it does share with the Lincoln LS platform, I can't recall what all exactly but I believe the floorpan and tunnel.
@1vdn992 Maybe you should check out the Lemans series and Corvette Racing's track record. Did you happen to catch the final 10 laps of Atlanta? If not, its on my homepage.
I spent a whole day with a friend in his '08 Ls3 Corvette. The ride is very firm, but it's not harsh by any means, and the seat are very comfortable. Not to mention what that thing can do when it's floored!....... 8-O
All while averaging 20mpg around town and 29-31 mpg on the highway.
What is the best colour scheme?
@MrMustang210 A comparo with a car not made anymore?
@Triplethreat600
the reason is, that ford does not put big enough tires on both of them. 315 on the back of the Shelby and 0-60 should be like 3.8sec range.
@prknts that's a grand sport, not a Z06. It's pretty much a base vette with some bells and whistles.
off topic a little but its funny how people talk smack about the Challenger SRT when it got .95 in the skidpad versus this Shelby gt500 .91
@natev6 why are you comparing the two???
@Croozer
agreed. but it just seems like they were aiming at the vette when they introduced the 500 horsepower shelby.
@rm005 that is a stock corvette. the grand sport is essentially the same as the regular vette with a package that features better brakes and suspension. they weren't very clear of that though.
what exactly IS the shelby designed to compete against???
@Rumplemenz what about the camaro and GTO etc.
@TheBatman917
The list price of the GT500, including shipping, is about $53,000 with svt package.
The list price of the GS with the 1LT package is $56,000.
Where did you get that extra $11,000???
I'm not a big Gt500 fan but the 2013 is a rocket, I drove one with only 200 miles on it but still was fast as hell and it wasnt even broken in!!! I own a 03 Terminator Cobra with a Kenne Bell on top and a little bit of other goodies, My best time ( street tires ) at the track was 11.2 @126.... I never had to dip into the engine to make it stronger and it still takes a beating.... I have owned 3 Vettes 85, 89 and a 97, none of them could take the beating!! Tranny issue or over heating..
@Janusha Yeah I had heard that about the Veyron, but hadn't read it anywhere. I would assume most car companies that don't specialize in super cars would loose money depending on how popular their super car becomes. Because then they are competing with established companies like Ferrari or Lamborghini. I wonder if the SSC Ultimate Aero will do really well.
@zacheryds
not if it costs more. You'd have to compare it to a similarly priced 'vette.
@urlame101 did they really? i heard something about that but i didnt know for sure.
@HelimanZ06 you are absolutly right and not only did they add the new sport cup tires to the z06 and zr1, but they did more aerodymaics tuning, rear spoiler, and better pistons pumping out a little more hp (around 7hp) making them (especially the zr1) the ultimate supercar, especially for the price. They have better times now faster acceleration and top speed and are the best!
@RAIDENISLIGHTNING yeah if your talking RWHP...in that case the vettes is at around 400 to the wheel. So whats your point?
@42boxer1 hence the reason i said " i like the performance upgrades for this GS but not the Z06 body parts" The body SHEET METAL (not the brakes, suspension, etc.) should stick with the Z06.
oh did I mention it only has intake mufflers and tune...at the track where, i dunno, the 0-60 numbers are usually recorded the same vette, same tires, etc. will run a sliver over a 3 sec flat 60mph time...still at about 2500 ft MSL and almost 4000 DA's.
So would you guys rather have a fairly loaded Grand Sport for $65,000 or a used 07 Z06 with low milage for $55,000?
@LuricRaja2 Now its an aftermarket GT with twin turbos?! Im talking stock production cars like the test above.
@STANGFAN81 Whats the GT500 run at Nurburgring? You seriously need to drive a Z06 then a GT500. Zo6 kills it in every aspect. Its like getting out of a sportscar into a pickup truck.
why a corvette with suspention package vs a stock suspension gt500 on a track test?
What should I get? Corvette, Shelby mustang gt500, or dodge challenger
@LuricRaja2 I take it you have never heard of a ZR1 . It outperforms the GT and Viper and is actually still produced today.
@Motorfordtoyota well true, but the corvette's chassis and suspension was designed for the track, while the gt500's chassis is just a mustang, which was designed for the road and everyday use...
@neerredd you do know that the zr1 and the ford gt run pretty much the same time right? and as far as out handling idk bout that now im all about hating ford but give respect where respect is due
@XxvoLTaxX420 but very different chassis and suspension design not to mention the transmission and gearbox ratios and settings...
they have a ford gt its rear engine and all but i dont know if they still make it
yeah, the srt8 is around 4100 lbs and i hate that you have to pay extra for thing that should come standard as well, like the 6 speed manual. but yeah, you could wait and see what the prices do. i like to doing things myself, so i'm more likely to go for the gt and get ford racing parts. we're all weird somehow man lol
That 2010 GS also has launch control. Imagine that thing with a Vortech, Procharger are APS TT setup.
@richie19r fyi Its not a base model vette. Its the Grand Sport
what about the 2013 monster???
American Muscle cars rule! I just picked up a used low milage 07 Z06, and love it! 505hp and nearly 30mpg on the hwy. Very easy to get the hp up to 600hp and not hurt the gas milage.
i have to disagree with that one. Have u driven a roush or 03 cobra? they have independant rear axles and they handle waaay better than any mustang. A few more suspension mods and it would make for a pretty quick car around the track
@bronxboyXXX :I am sorry I meant the Grand Sport. Well I doubt the ZR1 would take the GT....I like the ZR1 and agree that the supercharged engine is a monster, but coping up with GT not just in the straights but in the corners could be a tough one.. .. and what I wanted to say here was the Shelby GT500 should have been compared with Camaro SS or ZL1, ZL55 models rather than corvette..dont you agree?
Yes, I know. SSpope and I were discussing the difference in between in the performance of the Cadillac CTS-V and the Porsche Cayman S. You don't have to sell me on Corvettes, I own 3 myself ;).
what about the viper?
I went for a ride in a friends '08 Corvette Ls3, and he was also averaging anywhere between 29-31mpg highway, and about 21mpg around town, it crazy, not to mention how stupid fast it is! 8-D
@SuRihtanil they are only 6k apart and the vette coupe,the one that has the same engine block as the GS, is only 48k,the same price as the gt500
@basser41609 ??? where is the Pirus?
@CJDUBstang You missed the point of my statement. How many times have you read comparo's of two cars and one can completely smash another as far as numbers and performance goes, and yet somehow it loses because it doesnt have that upscale BMW interior or anything like that? I like both cars a lot, but I would much rather on any given day have GT500, just because there's a back seat lol, but also because it's well worth the money if you can ignore the LRA.
@timemaster44 near same performance @ stock, this is true. After modifications, nothing touches the GT :)
@Janusha well considering it is just as fast as the competition for about half the price yeah I'd say its a good car a bmw m6 for nearly double the price is basically just as fast if not slower
@STANGFAN81 That GT500 VIR time was run by ford engineers on none stock tires, still a good time though. Car and Driver could only get 3:04 in the 2011 GT500 (same as cts-v) but got 2:58.8 in the GS corvette. The GT500 has the power to weight ratio advantage (GT500 = 6.9 lbs/hp, the GS =7.6lbs/hp), that is a huge difference. That Z06 time was from 2005, the Z is 5secs faster now. I would love to see a true head to head comparison between the 2011 GS and 2011 GT500.
@afgandominator lol not really,you heard of the cts-v and the xlr right.
I'd be lucky to own either car. They both look awesome! There's no substitute for cubic inches.
Thanks! It was the invoice price. Things they Conveniently forgot to mention was how much it will cost to replace these ridiculously priced, summer performance tires...
@timemaster44 i totally agree i would want gt over zr1...all im sayin is more bang for your buck...and speakin of which z06 is great deal in that sense and when im older i will seriously look into buying something of the sort...but for now im in high school
Yes, I know that but it was the base corvette versus te highest model mustang in that year
@MLP270SS a gt also cost half as much as a zr1...
@krunky5000 exactly, for instance...the Z28 camaro...coming soon. It has 500+ hp as well. Comparing diff. classes of cars is usually never gonna come out well lol.
@Janusha again, you stray from your main idea... are you talking about the quality of the cars or how you view their reputation? they are two very different things.
@Janusha Ford had initially intended to build 4500 of them, and ended up falling short at 4038 probably as you say a result of money issues. Not just US performance cars loose money with each sale either, as apparently either the Zeno or the LFA (can't remember which one) also costs more to build than they make off of it. But yeah you are right, the GT was probably built to draw people to Ford. Beautiful car though.
@19thaman79 i doubt that since the zr1 only gets 3.7 and 205 with like 150+ more hp and better tires
BTW, Motor Trend publishes 2 magazines dedicated to Ford and Mustang. None to GM and they said them selves that the GT500 (not in the video, in the magazine review) that the camaro was a better buy than the GT500.
@swan467 Problem with that is the GT500 is not stock either>>>all the GT is is Twin turbo but then again it comes supercharged as well, so Forced vs NA no biggy, again just further proves my point people will try adn compare apples to Oranges, Supercar vs Muscle and Family seedan vs Sport compact, i see it everywhere. thanks for proving my point
@NissanTy Yeah but you would think with all that extra horsepower (GT500 has 104 more!) and the extra suspension tuning, that the stand would at least be close on on par with the vette.
Ford has a habit of utilizing lower compression ratios than most other brands do. For example, the 4.6L V8 in the mustang GT has a ratio of 9.8:1 while any of the LS series motors from GM run at least 10.1:1, with the 7.0L LS7 running 11.5:1 i believe. Compression ratio has a lot to do with power output, just as much as air and fuel amounts.
I disagree with your last statement. The Ford GT40 competes with the vette quite well. I am a Chevy guy and love Vettes but would take a GT40 any day over a Vette. The GT40 is one gorgeous machine.
That new grand sport reminds me of a C4 bodystyle. looks pretty good.
Well yeah, I was referring to the 2012 comparison here, the 2013 GT500 really destroys the base corvette. The sound is much better for 2013, and it's finally getting some REAL recognition. the ZR1 pulls harder yes, but the Shelby ( if you can say any car with 662 HP ) is easier to live with.
I have to hand it to the Shelby, it's quite the beast, and also thank you for making valid points and being a huge fanboy about this, their seem to be a few people with sense around here...
dos grandes hermosouras de autos que bellesas los dos....
@civstu If you got your GS for the price of a base coupe, then you got a damn good deal. According to Chevy's website, the GS *starts* at 56k, and fully-loaded can go up into Z06 territory(over 70k). Then again, that's for a 2012.
I'm actually kind of odd because I have followed both Ford and GM products for over 20 years. I raced a 10 second Turbocharged 99 GT auto for years, but also owned and built an 87 Grand National. I love the sound of Mustangs and nothing compares IMO. My next car will be an 08 C6 though. I think Ford competes with the Camaro very well and always has, but it has never had an answer for the all around performance of the Corvette.
55k-60k, either way, the Z06 is 75K, so u still save anywhere from 15k-20k off the Z06's price. In the Z06, what ur paying for is the amazing LS7 motor and the aluminum and alumintium shell and frame, and of course the big 6 piston brakes, wider tires, beefer tranny, etc., so the price makes since if u think about it. If you go on GM Performance site and look at the Crate motors, the LS7 motor alone is 13-15k and its hand-built, just like the LS9 in the ZR1, so the price makes since.
i agree with you there. the mustang is kinda old school with that live rear axle, but i could care less. and honestly, i'd probably just get a regular gt and do the mods myself. i like doing that anyways. and although the corvette is a more balanced car, i'd still prefer the rawness of the mustang. and even with all the weight, it's still lighter than the challenger srt8(which i also love lol)
@ninjafatballz its limited to 160 mph it can go well over 180.
@96integra02 Not very even. If you check the records for a monitored lap of the Nurburgring in Germany, You would find that the Chevy ZR1 lapped the "ring" 18 seconds faster than the fastest GT40.
@MustangMarck how engines are totally different from each other???????,they make some pretty damn good engines man
@nelaHnaVeiddE Ford GT specs
Top Speed: 205 mph / 330 km/h
0-60 mph: 3.6 seconds
0-100 mph: 7.8 seconds
0 - 1/4 Mile: 11.6 sec @ 126.2 mph
Engine: DOHC V-8, supercharged
when it comes to performance, chevy is still the best. ford doesn't have anything that can touch a vette. this wasn't even a z06 and it still beat the gt500 in every category except ride comfort and interior design, but those are irrelevant in performance cars. it also had a 100hp disadvantage against the ford. the vette is just so much more agile and takes those turns with an almost graceful motion. compared to the vette, the gt500 looked like an obese man trying to compete in the olympics...
@cjm04 why is it a waist? I mean they are both muscle cars right? They both fall in the same price category right? The GT500 has an advantage of more than 100HP right? They already compared the GT500 to the camaro and challenger, but then everyone was saying why compare a car with a supercharger and a 100HP advantage with the other two. The GT500 is in a class all by itself. Its too slow to contend with the vette, and up, and too fast to contend with the challenger down..
@STANGFAN81 yea but thats the base powertrain z06 and zr1 are still there remember that, but yes the gt500 is still a nice car
I have seen both in person and would take the C6 GS anyday. Just as fast and much quicker without the whine of a SC. Also the LS3 gets better mpg while doing all of its damage on turns or going straight. I love the looks of both though. The Vette is just the better all around performer hands down and cruises far on long highway trips.
I LOVE the look of the challenger but like you said its way too heavy and i dont like the fact that you have to pay extra for a stick shift tranny.
isnt the challenger like 4100 pounds? thats a little lighter than my 04 ram quad cab (its a hemi,BOY!!!!). i would wait till the next model year comes out and the price goes down on the shelby and nab it then.
but thats me...im weird.
I agree with you that it's over priced. Though i wouldn't say the GT500 is garbage. Costing 10 grand less and having bigger back seats and trunk, i think the Shelby held its own. Of course it could be lighter, and should have independent suspension. However 540hp for a well put together car with quality materials and amazing supercharger noise, makes it great bang for buck. And isn't the Z06 around the same price? I'm not sure if it is or not.
The performance of the Cayman S approaches that of Porsche's flagship sports car, the 911 Carrera. Rally legend Walter Röhrl lapped the Nürburgring Nordschleife track in a Cayman S equipped with optional 19" wheels, PCCB, and PASM in a time of 8 minutes, 11 seconds. The time for a standard Cayman S, as published by the manufacturer, was 8 minutes, 20 seconds. In contrast, Röhrl recorded 8 minutes, 15 seconds in a 911 Carrera.
@IxOVERKILLxI lol, i must thank you, your comment was very uplifting. it's great to finally hear from someone who knows some facts about cars rather than ignorant children who think they know it all when in reality they know absolutely nothing about them. what most people fail to realize, or at least don't want to admit, is that the GM LS Series engines are among the greatest v8s being produced. there is not one ford engine that can even compare to greatness of the LS. they can take any beating.
@JellyBird12 no the 2011, aluminum block engine so it took off about 100 pounds and i think there is better wheels on the new 2011
@scarface115 dont worry, btw the gt has a hard time getting away from the z06 let alone the zr1, gt was exotic, cost 250 grand when they came out(i knew a guy that had one) and 150 used, but dont worry some kids dont know what they are talking about
@braveheart4lif31 Mid mounted can have an advantage if done right in theory. Easier to obtain 50/50 with lower center weight but thats was not the case in late 05 when the Z06 came out. Thats why everyone went back to the drawing board after the Z06 debut. For the example the SE gallardo was 43/57 when the near 50/50 Z06 came out. Wheel base, height, overall lenght and width are factors too. The Z06 49' vs 49.5 for the SE. Theres alot more to balance than just a "mid engine". Facts