La Canción De Alicia | The Internet's Disappearing Song
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2023
- La Cancion de Alicia. Under The Stars. Aside from a few other pieces of lost media, no song has quite captured the collective internet's attention like this piece of obscure Britpop has over the last few years. Starting its life as an obscure Facebook post, and then finding its way here, to being covered by the now legendary Richardvox, The Mystery of La cancion de Alicia continues to unfold. In my work here, I've tried to tell the story the best I could, similar to Like The wind and Everyone Knows That. I chased down a few new leads, and filled in some gaps but there is still so much we don't know. Anyway thank you all fellow lost wave/Lost Media heads for spending time with my work. Hopefully with this video we can raise awareness and an answer can be found.
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LINKS TO STREAMING OF MY COVER
SPOTIFY: open.spotify.com/track/5FSCRK...
APPLE MUSIC: - music.apple.com/us/album/la-c...
UA-cam MUSIC: • La Canción de Alicia (...
UA-cam UPLOAD: • La Canción De Alicia (...
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SPOTIFY: open.spotify.com/track/5FSCRKo58sO6NRFRDzv3wa?si=95e0833dcb264ef5
APPLE MUSIC: music.apple.com/us/album/la-canci%C3%B3n-de-alicia-under-the-stars/1709180534?i=1709180535
UA-cam MUSIC: ua-cam.com/video/PQqfoX0Kink/v-deo.htmlsi=43QK06GDUAx4uBMm
UA-cam UPLOAD: ua-cam.com/video/q9sQGDUEank/v-deo.html
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Thank you all so much and I will see you again REAL SOON fellow lostwave heads. Peace!
As an old head (as in Im 23 but listen to OLD music) I think we're looking in the wrong era. The audio quality shares a similar sound to garage rock from the 1960s possibly early 70s.
@@itscs1175 you know I never considered this but it is not a bad idea AT ALL. The sound quality does remind of me of a garage band from the 60s like the sonics, except hispanic. This would be a good place to look, I think as well. Also since Britpop is basically a ripoff of 60s music it makes sense people got confused.
@@NAETEMUSICOG singer might be pity alvarez if you think about it
@@NAETEMUSICthe audio from OG upload on Facebook sounds like a recording from a live performance. Like other bands, maybe they were performing the song before release to see if people liked it, but then they disowned it. Just a theory
@@NAETEMUSICYeah I also definitely agree that Richardo can't be the original singer since Whoever is or was it They are still alive definitely has a much thicker accent well I hope that The original Singer is still alive but with horrible diseases such as Covid We sadly can't be 100% certain.
ITS FINALLY FOUND!!! (at least 2018 live version)
Bad Influence - Dream 4ever
The Studio version has been found
I have been involved in researching the song, and someone found out about a band from Brazil called "The Outs". Today they sing in Brazilian Portuguese, but before they changed vocalist, they were a BritPop/psychadelic rock band who sand in English and whose former vocalist had a very similar voice to Cancion de Alicia´s vocalist. Their former vocalist was eventually contacted and confirmed it´s not by them - but I swear, their music video for their song titled "Dream Song" has a very similar artistic style to the original post of Cancion de Alicia on Facebook. Since I have no reason to believe the guy was lying, I guess it´s just a weird coincidence.
It's 100% Richard, he has the same exact voice
@@TheTicassShowU trippin. Richard barely has a accent
@@thegoofycoilHe could've since lost the accent...
@@chocokeeki You cant just lose an accent in like 5 years
@@thegoofycoil the song could've been around for more than 5 years lmao, the og vid that you see was just a recording of a post on facebook that has been taken down
Ya se encontró "Bad influence - Dreams 4ever"
Im the admin from “Lost Media Perdidos Posting” glad to see the community to be an important part for the search of Alicia’s Song :) Good video man !!!
Do you believe this song might have came from Czech Republic, or maybe Chile ???
Hey, good news! Don't know if you heard, but the song was found! :D
@@_Axolotl_Axolotl_ which one this one?
I know ulterior motives was found, but was this song also found?
@@truthseekersthenewomega97 Yup! A couple of days ago, actually! I believe it's "Dreams 4ever" by Bad Influence. There should be both a live and studio version up on youtube. :)
What's strange is Richard's choice of words. He called it a version 2.0, not a cover. That makes it seem like it's his song, not someone else's. I can't decide if it's him or not myself. I'm glad he put a full song out there though.
The vocals are different. It's not him.
@@cae2525it's been anywhere from 5-10 years. The vocals for Time Machine by Tally Hall and Time Machine by Miracle Musical are different despite both being sung by Joe Hawley and Rob Cantor
I know a lot of people have pointed out that the style sounds similar to 80s-90s Argentinian or Spanish rock (or more recent, like 2000s-2010s), but the accent, to me, sounds Spanish, so I believe it's very likely that this band is/was from Spain. I've seen others claim it sounds Argentinian, though. I'm not familiar enough with Brazilian Portuguese to tell if the accent could also be Brazilian.
By the way, my original comment keeps getting deleted, it was about Yandex. I wonder why. Long story short, Yandex reverse image search results are generally better than Google's, which is why people use it to find leads on image sources, but the search engine naturally prioritizes results from the region of the world where Yandex is from, so it doesn't mean the images were actually first posted on sites that are from there.
Hey im from argentina, and one i heard the song i thought the singers voice had more of a mexican accent, argentinian rock sounds a bit similiar but it does remind me more of songs of mexico, i dont know the style but i can tell you that accent isnt argentinian, althought i do think that the singer does come from some country that speaks spanish,
I'm from Argentina and it also reminds me of a spanish accent. Something about the inflections or the way the words 'eyes' is pronounced the first time around, as well as how he pronounces 'side'. The singer could be from somewhere else though.
I dont think Ricardo and his band were the original artists, but I really like his version overall. The accent in original is an important part of the song for me, so I would love to hear the full original version someday.
Major Strokes, Julian Casablancas vibe. Sick vocals and awesome groove.
You'd love "Rock en tu idioma" bands and similar Spanish-language bands then.
istg if someone finds it (and uses the original video) disneys gonna be like "copyright claim!! teehee lol its gone now"
Intoxicados is NOT the band to look for. The singer in "La canción de Alicia" sounds nothing like Pity Álvarez, the style is also very different. I'm from Argentina and know Intoxicados very well.
Igual la forma rara con la que canta el tipo si en un poco similar a pity,no creo que sea de intoxicados pero tranquilamente podría ser un extracto de algún ensayo de Viejas Locas en los inicios de la banda,no una canción pero tal vez una letra que haya tirado el pity improvisando
Richard’s version has been one of my top Spotify songs for a while and every now and then I look up info about the search in hopes no one has left it behind❤ I hope some more news comes out soon!
This is so cool! 😎 A TikTok friend requested we cover How Long & Under The Stars and absolutely fascinated by the lost wave community and what you all do! The original sound to me to have an Eastern European accent that RichardVox tried to copy… just a thought. We love the song and did a new 1-take cover too. Thanks for this video! Very cool!
What if the snippet that we got, was the full song? The way it starts and ends seems li,e it my be a demo or experimental test? Highly unlikely but it would explain the absolute non existence of a full version. Also, if you listen to the start, the instrumental kicks in about a half second after the start of the video.
Just putting in my two cents.
Yea you right, it’s probably a demo
(I'm using a translator, sorry for the possible mistakes)
Some time ago I made a search for the gifs of Alicia's video using the TinEye search engine, I copy here the comment I made at the time:
""1st GIF: May 2012
2nd GIF: October 2013 originating from Tumblr
3rd GIF: Couldn't find it to do the reverse lookup
4th GIF: November 2014 originating from We Heart It
5th GIF: February 2014, the original post was apparently deleted, as the upload following it (Feb 2014) is of a cell phone case with the gif image.
6th GIF: I haven't found it yet
-I still think the edit was made in 2015-2017, it was definitely after Nov 2014.
I put 2017 as the cutoff date since a lot of reposting of the gifs was done on Tumblr and UA-cam in that year, more specifically early and mid-year. And the editing matches the one that was handled until those dates, then there was quite a big change in format and style.
I think it is important to know approximately the date of creation of the video to filter searches, because it is to my mind, very likely to be on UA-cam like hundreds of other edits of the style that do not reach 500 views.
-I'm also trying to find out what was the program used to edit, that may help to determine even more dates. I'm going by the transition that was used at the 0:30 second.
( ua-cam.com/video/rLFVfVrBZ_Q/v-deo.html ) is a very typical transition, but very specific as well, as each software recreates it in a slightly different way.
I tried to compare with several possible editors, such as Camtasia Studio 8 (very typical of the time), Windows Movie Maker, Filmora and Capcut (following the theory that possibly the edit was recently made by Jitomate Triste) and in none of them I could find that transition. I have yet to try in many more, but that's what I have so far.
Edit: I found it curious since the gif doesn't start playing until the transition finishes entering, something that used to happen to me sometimes in CapCut""
I think that might go so far as to rule out your theory that the edit came from Russia. Since the gifs were reposted on many, many pages, mostly on gif sites, We Heart It and Tumblr, which as I explain in the comment, I found a large part of them being reposted many times in early and mid 2017 by different users of the platform.
If I remember correctly, many of the UA-cam videos with gifs made in 2017 were apparently made by Brazilian people. Which at some point came to fit with the lead that it was possibly a Brazilian band (already discarded).
Yes, it's very likely that at least some of the GIFs used in that edit originated from Tumblr in that era, 2012-ish. Disney was extremely popular on Tumblr at the time (even more so than now), as were GIF sets with short, small and/or low-quality GIFs due to the platform's limitations.
Person from Brazil here. I dont want to affect the case with false Memories but i Just remember seeing this video or similar media when i was really Young.
I have the convicction that it isnt a false memory, but i can't just tell. Maybe searching for it in Brazilian internet can help.
Note: i dont remember exactly when i saw it but i can give the time Span of 2012-2017.
@@frylopers4232 Hello, thank you very much for your contribution! Personally, I think there is a great possibility that the edit comes from Brazil, since there was a large influx of editions of that style coming from there.
By any chance, the edit you remember seeing could have been this one?
ua-cam.com/video/OlX0N_7Ft0U/v-deo.htmlsi=qXdnJsfe-3AKEqAo
It was a quite famous edition with several re-uploads, which uses some of the gifs used in La Canción de Alicia.
If it's not that edit, and if it's not too impudent on my part, could you tell me what websites you used at that time? To focus the search for the edit there.
Thanks!
@@hoshiskur Hey.
The video is pretty similar, but i dont remeber this being The audio. I think that this edit is a thing that someone did and people got It and mixed with various ways.
As for the websites, its a really great question, but since my mom didn't let me browse with liberty i can only think about It being from UA-cam or Facebook. It can also be the chance of it being via bluetooth If you ask me, since my mom used it as main sharing form and in Brazil It was still a pretty popular way of sharing.
It can also have The chance of me seeing It in a dark place where i can't remember, but most likely Facebook and Bluetooth are The right way.
Heres some theories and helpful tips. I think were looking at the wrong genre, talked about this song with my guitar teacher today. He said it sounds like a genre known as “shoegaze” started by 60 and 70s bands such as Pink Floyd, and Velvet Underground. 2 i think we should look in Costa Rica for this and i saw there was 2 youtube comments about hearing this song. One from 2013, the other from 2019. Another thing is this could’ve been played on college radio in the us. I’d look for cities with a wider music scene such as, Charlotte and Atlanta. Is till suggest searching for Britpop but maybe a mix of Britpop and Shoegaze
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@@Ajcine no
@@Ajcine i don’t have any
my gf's second language is english, when she speaks pt it sounds completely different from when she speaks english, different pitch and stuff
Ricardo might have just gotten more used to his accent and it changed his voice in that language
Even though the singer from la "Canción de Alicia" and Pity Álvarez sound similar I highly doubt it's him. Pity and his old bands (Viejas Locas and Intoxicados) are still massive here in Argentina, so surelly someone would have recognized it as an old demo or something pretty easily. As far as I'm aware their albums contained only songs in spanish and their lyrics were maily about social issues and sometimes drugs, while La Canción de Alicia's lyrics seem to be more related to a generic romantic theme (maybe). It doesn't rule out that it's and old demo by Pity, but to me the singer of La Canción de Alicia sounds younger, possibly a teenager, which would also align with the lyrics and the sound of the band being kind of amateurish, if it was a recording from a well-known artist they probably would have had access to better equipment, right?
Intoxicados's music seems very much like "La Canción de Alicia" but, it also seems like it was an unreleased song. And when your most streamed song has over 140 million streams... i don't know.
My best bet is that, if It is a song from Intoxicados, then it's probably an unreleased/demo song
Or a very early draft
This song just got found! Bad Influence - Dreams 4ever (2018)
However, the live version is the only audio we have yet so far.
I'm Brazilian. Yes, the singer could plausibly be Brazilian, and if so likely from the South/Southeast but not from Rio, judging both by the accent and the Brazilian rock scene from the mid-2000s to mid-2010s. But Brazil is so big that it's just an educated guess
They were Peruvian💀
Who made the Alice art in the thumb? I want to know the artist who made that rad Alice so bad, it's cool as hell
Fascinating. Thanks for all the hard work.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love this! Really well made! You just gained a new subscriber!!
Thank you so much for the support!
Muy Interesante! Tu haces buen trabajo y me gusta como tienes tu version en el final.
In my opinion is Ricardo really near to the original Singer or he is the original artist. The original singer is for me clearly a Tenor two.
cool vid idc about the music video but the song bangs so hard
There's two music videos I've tried to find forever, and reditt can't help at all. After seeing yiur video I wish I could get you in on the search lol
I love the Video. The beginning was absolutely nice, can you post the Version of La Cancion de Alicia just like in the Video? I mean with the Special Effects at the beginning 😅 And: I love it that the Video was built up like a documentary, it felt like something i would watch on History Channel 😄
Besides that, i was shocked that you have only a few Thousand subscribers. By the quality of your Videos, i would swear that somebody like Blameitonjorge would post something like this. Amazing!
great video! this is such a great timeless song.
its not intoxicados, unless the song isn't one of their released album songs
CHILE MENTIONED 🦅🦅🦅🦅🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱
Can you do "Dance for hours a day"? Btw I absolutely love these videos :)
royal treatment plant - funky
It got found lets goooo, and from what I heard the band could possibly make a complete version of the song
2:16 DMS = demasiado, means "a lot", not DMs 😂
Lmao my bad, I assumed the abbreviations would carry over
Jitomate Triste’s original post wasn’t just audio tho. His post was that video with all of the Alice gifs, nobody knows where Jitomate got the video though.
But the thing is that you can see Alice actually going thru the post in the video so I don't think so
@@jeppy4021And you can also see the video interface. Dude, that's what Facebook videos look like nowadays lol. The likes, like button and comment button appear over the video when you're on mobile.
The UA-cam upload that's featured here was literally recorded from that Facebook post.
Has he not replied to questions about where he got the video?
@@chocokeeki his account got banned
@chocokeki4782 His account was deleted I think
very entertaining, thanks for putting us on to this scene.
I'm low key kinda freaked out for some reason like why so mysterious >_>
I was disappointed with yor coverage of everyone knows that, but I'm really adoring this one
Hey, I'm an Alicia. 😇
Nice to meet you lol. You got a whole ass lost song dedicated to you
@andretyroneii941 I know, I'm so special!! 👻haha jk.
Maybe I'm lost as well, and just don't know it... hmm. Well, who isn't these days anyways, huh? 😅
HOLY SHIT NEW LEAD!
Dude, I'd love to see what you could do with the lostwave song "Again" / "Again and Again"
Good video. Thanks, and good luck!
Hoping fmm comes next 🙏🙏🙏 great video
Check the end of the video 😉 (it does)
It was discovered. Go look it up!
i liike that this video also talks about the origin of the bizarre alice video because that was one of the most interesting parts of the mystery to me lol
Dreamy psych on display here
For sure.
The singer sounds very very Spanish to me, he could be from Spain
Dude, you pronounce it perfectly!
2:18 “me encanta dms” reffers to “i love it a lot/i really love it”, not about dms kjjjj. really nice video tho, i hope we get to know who did this song someday: (
Lmao I am learning dms is short for demasiado not “DMs” lmao but thank you so much glad you liked the video!!
I think it's plausible that a man's voice will get lighter as they age. The most obvious example being Critikal or Penguin0 who you can tell had his voice get lighter as time went on.
Why in the word would people think Richardvox is actually the creator of the song? It’s OBVIOUSLY a cover people
Yeah I think its probably because that his sentence "I'll make the 2.0 version" really made people think that he was a singer along with his another sentence "just wait for the video" when people questioned him through emails from the old band email address he was used to be part of
still easily the best cover of the song so far
I don’t really have anything to say other than good job on those Spanish pronunciations
r u gonna make a recreation of “everyone knows that”
He did
I look though every song on the intoxicados youtube channel and its sadly not there.
I like this song really
So was the album cover used for your single (like on Apple Music) ai generated? The guitar looks a bit merged with the apron thing on her dress
I NEEEED the full original version!!
MAN, WE FOUND IT!!!
I've seen two videos about this song and in BOTH of these videos, y'all talk about his accent or his voice or his singing, but those change over time. The original Gin&Tonic video was about 16 years ago. If it IS Ricardo, it's entirely possible that his voice just changed and he practiced the accent to better suit what he wanted to sing. It's not entirely out of the question.
I love dms too
Can someone answer me something? If this is a lost song, nobody knows who originally cretad this music or even who is the sing the song. Who owns the copyright of this music? This is a free song to use it in any form of media? I don't mean the new covers but the lyrics and the original one. This song is in the public domain?
Yes. The original is free for use
Aquí la clave es encontrar ajitomate triste y preguntarle de donde saco el clip
IT GOT FOUND
"The original creator..."
* "The creator..." (The creator of something already IS the originator. People who come along and modify it are just modifiers or redesigners, etc.)
Hey what's the name of the song at the 12.42 mark please someone tell me
High and Dry by Radiohead!
It's a sad thing you do videos to promote real art but at the same time you use ai images, like the thumbnail or one Alice picture at the beginning, simply a contradiction
thats also my feeling. ai sucks
Solved!- bad influence-dreams4ever (2018)
The singer sounded British at first listen rather than chilean, lol.
vocal sounds little bit like Liam Gallagher
12:58 idk about the accent, if I'm singing I usually wind up somewhat mimicking the accent of the original singer (be it American, British, etc).
Also if the singer was sick or a smoker at the time may have made their voice sound lower than it actually was?
"jitomate" is a Mexican word could the OP be from Mexico?
lmao
the singer's voice reminds me of schwoz schwartz from henry danger
12:29 I’LL TRY ANYTHING ONCE 🥰🥰😲
Have you ever heard of the unknown song nobodies angels,
Dude check out the most mysterious metal song fall of the king
Oh yeah that ones is a banger 🤘
Erm what the sigma
OFHDN
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@@Imacrab398 i was meant to say "found"
It's not him. I like his version but it's not him.
Probably is, they're both called Ricardo Mendéz and accents, singing voices and just the grasp of English can change soo
@@houseofcelestina Yeah but not like, that much. I can do a pretty decent approximation of a male opera voice but I'll never be able to do what Pavarotti does. It won't matter how much I practice, how much Italian I learn or what conditioning exercises I do. I just don't have the equipment. I'm a barry. I'll never be a tenor.
The animation looks like it’s from Disney
It is
Awesome!
it's called under the star
That's the cover by Ricardo
Your cover of the song was most enjoyable
Thank You So Much! 😊
The voice and style of singing is very characteristic of Ilya Lagutenko - member of the Russian pop/rock band "Mumii Troll". So I guess, this was recorded from one of their live concerts. Just listen to this song and judge by yourself. ua-cam.com/video/V7iCZQgK0SQ/v-deo.html