Great Players of the Past: Max Lange

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  • Опубліковано 11 сер 2023
  • Check out Ben's Chessable courses here! www.chessable.com/author/BenF... GM Ben Finegold discusses the games of Max Lange. The lecture was recorded on November 17, 2017.
    Games discussed:
    Max Lange, vs. NN, (1855)
    Max Lange vs., Adolf Anderssen, Berlin (1851)
    Max Lange vs. Schierstedt, Breslau (1856)
    Max Lange vs. Karl Mayet, Berlin (1853)
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  • @MrBonified66
    @MrBonified66 9 місяців тому +6

    As I knew, the Max Lange attack is not named after the world champion Max Lange (I didn't know).

  • @laidbackstrat9491
    @laidbackstrat9491 9 місяців тому +1

    10:15 "I see three (checkmates) that I know of...I see three" with C3 as one of the checkmates. Nice lol

  • @f.d.3289
    @f.d.3289 9 місяців тому +5

    The "guy" in the 28:33 game is actually a girl, Miss Jenny von Schierstedt. Guess Max wanted to impress this young Fräulein by capping his knight, although I think given his awesome beard he wouldn't've needed that to score :D

  • @luxwutang
    @luxwutang 9 місяців тому +1

    2:00
    giving a lecture about a "(this) guy is also....iffy"
    I hope Ben finds the fountain of youth

  • @f.d.3289
    @f.d.3289 9 місяців тому +2

    Wikipedia has it wrong, these early (West/North/Middle) German Chess Congresses were not really national championships. Nobody ever called Max Lange German champion. These Congresses were just the first big master tournaments of the various chess federations, and often had international participation. I think the first time they were seen as a national championships was under the Nazis.

    • @schusterlehrling
      @schusterlehrling 3 місяці тому +1

      No, the first German Congress was held in Leipzig in 1879. For most of the time, the German Championship held in it was open to (master) players from all over the World.
      Only after 1914 that was changed, but not without great discussions, as many players like Tarrasch, really saw chess as a purely international game, so closed national championships made little sense to them.
      The German Chess Federation was founded in 1877 on the occasion of Adolf Anderssen's 50 years of chess anniversary.
      Anderssen and Lange as well as Tassilo von der Lasa did a lot to unite the local Chess Associations and Chess Clubs in Germany.
      Some regard Louis Paulsen, the winner of that founding congress as the first German Champion.

    • @f.d.3289
      @f.d.3289 3 місяці тому

      @@schusterlehrling thanks for the detailed info :)

  • @edwardwalsh4454
    @edwardwalsh4454 11 днів тому

    40:53 To be precise "They played terribly" not terrible! How did they play? Terribly is describing the play so the "ly". Most GM miss this English Gambit up terribly!

  • @f.d.3289
    @f.d.3289 9 місяців тому

    51:30 I was 14 when the Wall came down and even though I of course didn't really get what was happening, I definitively got that everybody was absolutely flabbergasted that the crusty East German government suddenly gave in and opened the wall. (By accident, ironically, because in a press conference one high official misunderstood the official directive and said uh yeah, the people can leave immediately.) So no blame on Jürgen, that was a really mind-blowing event to everyone. I still get goosebumps when I think of it.

  • @dr.danielpatrick5060
    @dr.danielpatrick5060 9 місяців тому

    Ben was there when David Hasselhoff sang on the wall !?

  • @jordanmcmorris5248
    @jordanmcmorris5248 9 місяців тому

    I may, infact, know of the elephant gambit

  • @f.d.3289
    @f.d.3289 9 місяців тому +2

    Yeah, Max Lange is the BLOAT (Best-Looking of All Times)

  • @alanESV2
    @alanESV2 9 місяців тому

    At 17:52, after …Qg7, Nf6+ is better (mate in 2)

  • @Sevenigma777
    @Sevenigma777 6 місяців тому

    Im sorry but i find it crazy that there was ever a professional chess match that looked like that first game. Idc what century it took place in. Im pretty sure never once in my life have i had my king the way that black did even when i first learned as a toddler. If only i was born in the 1800s i could have been world champ.... well maybe lol

  • @Odinshi
    @Odinshi 9 місяців тому +1

    19:16 I saw the best try for black which is rook blocks on e5!! But trying is the first step to failure so it's still mate in 10

  • @rainerausdemspring3584
    @rainerausdemspring3584 9 місяців тому +1

    Your pronunciation of "Lange" ist not exactly correct. It should be pronounced like Lung-a - sort of. The "g" is almost mute. At 1:18 you got it right!
    He won the West German championship before the "Deutsches Reich" (German Empire) was founded in 1871 more or less by Bismarck.

  • @yotoober1
    @yotoober1 9 місяців тому

    At first glance I thought that it was Gen. Ulysses S. Grant in civilian clothes.
    Did he play chess?

  • @kapa1611
    @kapa1611 9 місяців тому

    👍👍

  • @bl4ck0p
    @bl4ck0p 9 місяців тому +1

    was it a joke that you did one of these about simon williams? i can't find it

    • @michaelsaxton4925
      @michaelsaxton4925 9 місяців тому +1

      He recorded the lecture on Monday. It usually takes a week or 10 days for it to be posted.

    • @bl4ck0p
      @bl4ck0p 9 місяців тому

      @@michaelsaxton4925 ty

  • @dr.bogenbroom894
    @dr.bogenbroom894 9 місяців тому

    Were this slow games?? "??"

    • @ABadGamble
      @ABadGamble 9 місяців тому

      Nobody played blitz in the 1800s

    • @dr.bogenbroom894
      @dr.bogenbroom894 9 місяців тому

      @@ABadGamble I know, what I meant is that they seem to be playing blitz, I'm no expert but I think with all the theory we have available nowadays it wouldn't take a genius to beat their style of playing

    • @ABadGamble
      @ABadGamble 9 місяців тому +1

      @@dr.bogenbroom894 Oh I see. Yes I agree, even I could spot most of the critical moves, like when black has a chance to trade queens. An 800 elo player would easily spot that move. Back then they play moves that we know are just insane losing moves, so that the opponent can play a beautiful tactic. Especially if it is just a casual game.

  • @YouCantHandleTheJug
    @YouCantHandleTheJug Місяць тому

    😂 LUDA! 💯

  • @yosefcohen483
    @yosefcohen483 9 місяців тому

    Okay, now that you're wondering how to say names and stuff, I'll tell you something - confusing the audience: the letter u with two dots on it, is really i, or y.
    So Huebner is Hibner. Grunfeld is Greenfeld - Green Field - that's a surename.
    And Muller is Miller.
    (There's a game where Alon Greenfeld won a game against the master of the Grunfeld - Svidler. Truth Hertz).
    Good.
    Not having a beard should disqualify people from getting into tournaments. Women should put on a fake mustache, like in the introduction to the movie UHF, which you saw.

  • @Lastninjaxoxoxoxox
    @Lastninjaxoxoxoxox 9 місяців тому

    What about Max Deutch

  • @aanon4019
    @aanon4019 9 місяців тому

    Schrantz making me worse at chess xD

  • @donsimons9810
    @donsimons9810 9 місяців тому

    face palm at these jokes over here

  • @MelektausTheWizard
    @MelektausTheWizard 9 місяців тому +1

    hope you know your intro song has been disgusting forever love you been forever 94

  • @itzyfan88
    @itzyfan88 9 місяців тому

    d5+ Kc5 Ba3+ Kc4Ne5#?