Great Players of the Past: Jan Timman

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  • Опубліковано 29 січ 2025

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  • @Rubrickety
    @Rubrickety Рік тому +60

    Timman was way ahead of his time. It wasn't until the last decade that Hans Niemann, and later Carlsen, began to emulate his magnificent hair.

    • @dark_magician_sdy
      @dark_magician_sdy Рік тому

      Carlsen had it before Buttbead neimann did, cmon bro

    • @stigludwigsen
      @stigludwigsen Рік тому +1

      He always looked like a man from the 1700s.

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 9 місяців тому +1

      Two words for you. John Nunn.

  • @francescoassanti8335
    @francescoassanti8335 Рік тому +9

    Ben is improving: with this pace by 2024 he'll achieve the goal of an introduction longer than the rest of the lecture

  • @ragingram9540
    @ragingram9540 Рік тому +26

    Hey, it's my favourite player, Jan Timman

    • @cooperjudson5807
      @cooperjudson5807 Рік тому +4

      Hey, it’s my favourite player, Ben Finegold

    • @santos1827
      @santos1827 Рік тому +5

      this is the funniest comment i have ever seen in the past hour

    • @younglove6363
      @younglove6363 Рік тому +4

      because you’ve heard of him!

    • @r.mcdonnell8614
      @r.mcdonnell8614 Рік тому +1

      @@younglove6363 in all honesty when I first learned about chess a year and a half ago MVL was my favorite (current) player simply because he was the only one I'd heard of. I still am a big fan of his

    • @jesuslovesyou-matts
      @jesuslovesyou-matts Рік тому

      ​@@r.mcdonnell8614who is mvl

  • @goodnewseverybody739
    @goodnewseverybody739 Рік тому +18

    Best chess content around. Real meat and potatoes stuff. Turns out actually understanding the game gives you a bit of an advantage.

  • @chrispope9418
    @chrispope9418 Рік тому +16

    Ben you do such a good job at this. Keep them coming. You’re the best etc but mainly etc 😂

  • @Demian_R
    @Demian_R Рік тому +60

    According to his Wiki, Kasparov wasn't even rated until 1979. Making Ben higher rated than him for 4 years.

    • @zaydengestures7275
      @zaydengestures7275 Рік тому +3

      Ridiculous if true

    • @r.mcdonnell8614
      @r.mcdonnell8614 Рік тому +4

      Who's better:
      Ben Finegold--has been rated higher than Garry Kasparov
      Every player since the mid 80s other than Magnus--has not been rated higher than Garry Kasparov

    • @TheChessRunner
      @TheChessRunner Рік тому +1

      Clearly Ben wins on longevity

    • @baoboumusic
      @baoboumusic 4 місяці тому

      ​​@@zaydengestures7275 Kasparov in 1979 was 16 and already Grandmaster strength. Finegold in 1979 was 9 and fartblaster strength. Kasparov won Banja Luka 2 pts clear of the pack ahead of Andersson, Petrosian, Adorjan and Browne. Finegold watched Karpov and Timman.
      Mainly etcetera.

  • @Flxz0r
    @Flxz0r Рік тому +3

    One of the absolute greats. Thanks for the lecture.

  • @victorfinberg8595
    @victorfinberg8595 Рік тому +10

    levy to ben: "can you please take care of my dogs?"
    levy to dogs: "when ben gives his lecture, bark as loud as you can"

  • @gmcenroe
    @gmcenroe Рік тому +4

    Nice games, Timman was one of my favorite players and authors.

  • @kevinneptune587
    @kevinneptune587 Рік тому +6

    Looks like you had a good lunch today... Nice video, thank you.

  • @biggsweaty
    @biggsweaty Рік тому

    This was really great. Thanks for that.

  • @mmitleidt7969
    @mmitleidt7969 Рік тому +7

    You know you've reached the top when you don't have to worry about sauce stains on your shirt anymore.

    • @McCainenl
      @McCainenl Рік тому

      a very American sartorial approach

  • @OsbornsConcise
    @OsbornsConcise 3 місяці тому

    That game against Kasparov was pretty awesome

  • @tonyennis1787
    @tonyennis1787 Рік тому +1

    You've done one of these videos on Bent Larsen and now one on Timman. When you see either of these two featured in a replay, they almost always are on the losing side.

  • @jaccocornelisschutter8895
    @jaccocornelisschutter8895 Рік тому +3

    Jan the man

  • @mikhailmorphy6284
    @mikhailmorphy6284 Рік тому

    I love your lectures

  • @grahamdugan
    @grahamdugan 10 місяців тому

    That second game against Kasparov was utterly beautiful

  • @fireballxl-5748
    @fireballxl-5748 Рік тому

    Great choice of games!

  • @Heyhey7764-e8s
    @Heyhey7764-e8s Рік тому +4

    Great Shirt Stains of the Present

  • @elcid451
    @elcid451 Рік тому +5

    Hey... I was in Montreal at that tournament and spoke to Michail Tal who had to wave his body guards off when I approached him! Lol. Didn't see you Ben. You must have been Short

  • @orc_gunslinger
    @orc_gunslinger Рік тому +2

    As a ruy lopez player this was a fun one to watch

  • @bowrudder899
    @bowrudder899 Рік тому +1

    Please do Arthur Dake!

  • @addyjons
    @addyjons Рік тому +1

    Hello. do you know if Timman will be any tournament i the near future??

  • @dg19de
    @dg19de Рік тому +1

    3:12 on the far left: almost 🤣

  • @Chris.4345
    @Chris.4345 Рік тому +3

    This is definitely one of the Jan Timman lectures of all time.
    Also, Shout! is really effective on grease stains, especially if applied promptly.

  • @mmitleidt7969
    @mmitleidt7969 Рік тому

    I'm still curious which chess books are on the shelf.

  • @Witroodwit
    @Witroodwit Рік тому +2

    Like if your Dutch 🇳🇱

  • @beeble2003
    @beeble2003 9 місяців тому

    Did people really argue about who was the world champion in the 1990s? My recollection of that time is that everybody knew that the world champion was Kasparov or whoever could beat him, and then Kramnik or whoever could beat him. Karpov and Timman played the 1993 FIDE world championship match because they were the most successful players in the candidates cycle except for Short: Timman lost to Short in the candidates final and Karpov in the semi. (The other semi-finalist was Yusupov, but he'd already lost to Timman in that semi-final.)

  • @MarkWiseTechno
    @MarkWiseTechno Рік тому +1

    6:15 I'll argue with you about the those guys being the 4 most talented players in 1991. Kamsky is the one who doesn't fit. Kamsky was only 16-17 yrs old then, and Ivanchuk was unquestionably a superior talent at that time.

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 9 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, Ivanchuk was #2 in the world in 1991. Kamsky was top-ten in 1991, though, despite "only" being 2650.

  • @samtackett
    @samtackett Рік тому

    What is Jan timman best book to buy for 1300-1500 player like me

    • @mabu1760
      @mabu1760 8 місяців тому

      Probably a book by Bobby Fischer, but I doubt Timman would have you take it off his hands for any reasonable price.

    • @baoboumusic
      @baoboumusic 4 місяці тому

      I'm a huge fan of his books and have had all of them, even though I'm a low level player. The level of analysis is super high in eg "The Art of Analysis", but if you are serious about studying the games, they will definitely help you.
      If you're not so bothered and just want to see good games, consider the book on the Fischer-Spassky match, the one on the Kasparov Karpov matches or Tinman's Titans. Great writer, interesting analysis.

  • @f.d.3289
    @f.d.3289 Рік тому +1

    Here's a great Dutch chess documentary called "Love for Wood" (with English subs): ua-cam.com/video/E48r-JTSAVM/v-deo.html where you can see a lot of Timman live, philosophizing about chess with other players. He seems like a really nice guy, very balanced for a chess player :) Also IMO it's one of the very few truly good chess documentaries, heartily recommended!
    Otherwise, great lecture about one of my favourite chess players. As always, thanks Ben :D

  • @yosefcohen483
    @yosefcohen483 Рік тому

    9:25 - Priceless. 😀
    I can insult you in the comments! You have been warned!

  • @davidblack2970
    @davidblack2970 Рік тому

    And we'll let the computers figure it out? 14...Qh4 15. Re1 Qxf2+ 16. Kh1 Qh4+
    17. Kg1 Qh2+ 18. Kf1 Qh1+ 19. Ke2 Qxg2+ 20. Kd3 Rd8+ etc. Seems pretty straightforward to me.

  • @kieron5495
    @kieron5495 Рік тому

    Ben is becoming Christopher Walken

  • @King.Mark.
    @King.Mark. Рік тому

    👍

  • @youradhere5761
    @youradhere5761 Рік тому +1

    Ah... The good old days when the Dutch government took less than 100% of your earnings! Good times!

  • @woodenfences
    @woodenfences Рік тому

    "When Korchnoï played b3..." @16:53

  • @robertsanders7060
    @robertsanders7060 Рік тому +1

    IMHO, not really the perfect game to present - a case when Timman ran into the full force of USSR prep....

  • @danielcamachofrancabandier8392

    First

  • @shakohoto7901
    @shakohoto7901 Рік тому +1

    Ben is stupid! Rawr!
    Sincerely, the gawking rabble on the internets

  • @BongelaMnguni
    @BongelaMnguni Рік тому

    Hans Niemann >>>
    Jan Timman

  • @victorfinberg8595
    @victorfinberg8595 Рік тому

    9:40
    i will sue you for a million dollars
    ... i will settle for a thousand