Great Players of the Past: David Bronstein

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  • Опубліковано 15 тра 2023
  • Check out Ben's Chessable courses here! www.chessable.com/author/BenF... GM Ben Finegold discusses the games of David Bronstein in the newest episode in the Great Players of the Past series. This lecture was recorded on Sept. 28, 2017 at CCSCATL in Roswell, Georgia.
    Games discussed:
    David Bronstein vs. Llubomir Ljubojevic, Petropolis (1973)
    David Bronstein vs. Miguel Najdorf, Budapest (1950)
    Alberto Foguelman vs. David Bronstein, Amsterdam (1964)
    David Bronstein vs. Mikhail Botvinnik, Moscow (1951)
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 58

  • @louiscypher6919
    @louiscypher6919 9 місяців тому +31

    Dave is such a great participant. Except one thing.

  • @sidmajumdar
    @sidmajumdar Рік тому +50

    Man, the ghost of Jim Varney sure has a lot to say

    • @jdclar3
      @jdclar3 Рік тому +5

      Sadly, that’s not a joke anyone under 21 years old will get. Jim Varney was the best!

    • @josephberger699
      @josephberger699 Рік тому +2

      Is that you Vern?

    • @vigilante8374
      @vigilante8374 Рік тому +2

      39:12 Ben agrees.

    • @Rubrickety
      @Rubrickety Рік тому +1

      🤣

    • @JAndrioli
      @JAndrioli Рік тому

      Godddddaaarn hes annoying

  • @bunpeishiratori5849
    @bunpeishiratori5849 Рік тому +11

    I played Bronstein in a simul (in New Jersey in the early ‘90s, I think? He won of course but I actually had a good position for a while. The computer said I was better before blundering. When I resigned, I got him to autograph my copy of his 1953 book. He actually paused for a moment to look through the book, apparently because he was unfamiliar with that version/translation. I’m pretty sure I have a photo of the two of us somewhere, though I really don’t know where it is. Overall a cool experience.

  • @kmarasin
    @kmarasin Рік тому +21

    Seeing this newest batch of reuploads again inspired me to revisit Wikipedia articles on the great mid-century Soviet players. This led me to find out about Vladimir Petrovs, a player I'd never heard of, but he was apparently among the world's top players in the 1930s. Then the Soviets killed him for criticizing their occupation of his country Estonia.
    Can you do a video on Vladimir Petrovs? I know enough about chess to have heard of all but a few of all the players you've covered (edit: Lein, Khan, Suttles, Blocker, Showalter are the ones I'd never heard of) and Petrovs seems far more relevant than them.

  • @michaelbaker9347
    @michaelbaker9347 Рік тому +16

    is this a lecture, or a podcast between Ben and Dave?

  • @Circuit7Active
    @Circuit7Active 9 місяців тому +2

    My favorite GM

  • @user-ej4sl8wh8m
    @user-ej4sl8wh8m Рік тому +3

    Great players of the past are my favorite chess youtube videos!

  • @Evilanious
    @Evilanious Рік тому +14

    I'm screaming at home: shhhh. Shhhh. Dave! Shhhhh!

    • @barkman1739
      @barkman1739 Рік тому +5

      In a previous video, I commented that I wasn’t sure if Dave Vest is annoying or my favorite part of the videos. Now I’m sure that the COMMENTS about Dave Vest are my favorite part of the videos. 🤣

  • @yosefcohen483
    @yosefcohen483 Рік тому +7

    43:05
    "Alright now, there's two openings I hate, Archer - openings that are intolerant of Other openings, and The Dutch."

  • @Gingnose
    @Gingnose 17 днів тому +1

    Me watching lectures answer Smyslov instantly 😂

  • @JimJWalker
    @JimJWalker 2 місяці тому

    I looked at the two classical games between Fischer and Bronstein. Both were draws, but it is obvious they were going for each others throats.

  • @12jswilson
    @12jswilson Рік тому +5

    24:40 it's weird. In the last few years, the a3 Nimzo Indian has become somewhat popular again and has some high profile wins even though it looks like a stupid move

    • @h0wnr681
      @h0wnr681 Рік тому

      a3 instead of nc3 is also a good anti-nimzo line, I think Kasparov used to play it.

  • @eliasb8
    @eliasb8 11 місяців тому

    56:07 I was shouting "Smyslov" at home!! 😁
    Now, who was second place in the "Zurich 53" tournament?
    Answer: David Bronstein.
    22:33 Speaking of Najdorf, here goes another question:
    Who wrote another famous - and arguably better - book about the "Zurich 1953" tournament?
    Answer: Miguel Najdorf.
    You know everything!! 😉👍

  • @davidcopson5800
    @davidcopson5800 11 місяців тому

    Jan Timman, not Tin Man. He played in the 'Over the Rainbow' tournament!

  • @CorneliuZeleaCodreanu9
    @CorneliuZeleaCodreanu9 4 місяці тому +1

    That dude sure loves hearing himself talk

  • @anonymousAJ
    @anonymousAJ Рік тому

    Szabo Reshevsky indeed but that was just a (mating) variation

  • @danjeory3659
    @danjeory3659 Рік тому +1

    "You were all thinking Szabo - Reshevsky 1953 right?" 😂😂

  • @dariomoccia8266
    @dariomoccia8266 Рік тому +3

    noooo ancora il rompicazzo

  • @MattyNiceZM
    @MattyNiceZM Рік тому

    Where is the Steinitz lecture?

  • @elevenears4785
    @elevenears4785 Рік тому

    David Bronstein - so close to my name.

  • @jorymil
    @jorymil Рік тому

    Ben's assessment of Bronstein calming down is maybe a bit harsh. Especially as you get older, tournament stress takes a little longer to come down from.

  • @fspieler
    @fspieler 10 місяців тому

    I was thinking Szabo Rechevsky

  • @sure7130
    @sure7130 Рік тому +2

    Haha who is the guy who kept chiming? He was great, can tell he loves chess

    • @danbrooks5060
      @danbrooks5060 10 місяців тому +3

      Dave Vest, a USCF LM. He was at one point the Georgia state champion. He's also, as you can perhaps tell, a little bit loopy.

    • @seanosull2884
      @seanosull2884 6 місяців тому

      ​@danbrooks5060 I think he's been in other videos... I found him so annoying at first, but by the end of the video, I started to respect how enthusiastic he is about chess

  • @CrispyKorn
    @CrispyKorn 3 місяці тому

    4:16

  • @zaydengestures7275
    @zaydengestures7275 Рік тому +6

    I don't wanna be overtly rude but the crowd is starting to sound more like the 1oclock class..

    • @vigilante8374
      @vigilante8374 Рік тому +1

      Dave is actually a national master, as I recall.

    • @zaydengestures7275
      @zaydengestures7275 Рік тому +4

      @@vigilante8374 I should rephrase then, the speaking habit of the 1oclock class.

  • @alfiecollins5617
    @alfiecollins5617 Рік тому

    32:00

  • @MrLiveWest
    @MrLiveWest Рік тому

    Can you do a video on tempo? Like tempo to does and to don't? You always say a players captures with tempo in your videos. I can't really find anything on tempo when looking for chess videos

    • @dechain1927
      @dechain1927 Рік тому +1

      Do be up tempo, don’t be down tempo

    • @andrewkarsten5268
      @andrewkarsten5268 Рік тому +1

      @@dechain1927not always. There are a few weird endgames where the way to win is to actually purposefully forfeit a tempo so you can gain something else, such as opposition or zugzwang

    • @andrewkarsten5268
      @andrewkarsten5268 Рік тому +1

      Tempo literally just means move. So if you do something where you effectively get a free move, that’s an extra tempo. Tempo translates directly to time. For example, there may be a position where you could capture your opponent’s piece, or they can capture yours, and whoever initiates the trade loses a move doing so. Then instead of taking their piece, you may let them capture first while making a free move before the trade, thus gaining a tempo. As you continue to hear this term, understand “gaining tempo” basically means your opponent is having to waste a move, so you essentially get a free move, and then the converse for “losing a tempo”. Once you get this, the usage of this term should make a lot more sense.

  • @thinboxdictator6720
    @thinboxdictator6720 Рік тому +1

    see you in past

  • @nnerival6125
    @nnerival6125 Рік тому +1

    Is that a reupload ? I feel like i've already heard a few jokes

    • @nnerival6125
      @nnerival6125 Рік тому

      I was joking but i think it s a reupload, i clearly remember him sayin he was the first western reporter to report bronstein death

    • @nnerival6125
      @nnerival6125 Рік тому

      And i don t think this would fit anywhere else

    • @lv20swds
      @lv20swds Рік тому +1

      Yes. They are reuploading a lot of the CCSCATL lectures on this channel now.

    • @vigilante8374
      @vigilante8374 Рік тому +6

      85% of the lectures are reuploads and it's been that way for a while. If there's someone in a live audience talking--anyone at all--it's a reupload. Ben is a hermit now, lives in the basement. Karen brings him a bucket of fish heads every other day.

    • @jefftoll604
      @jefftoll604 Рік тому +3

      @@vigilante8374 Please add this interesting information to his Wikipedia entry to make it longer.

  • @robbarcen3509
    @robbarcen3509 Рік тому +2

    Dave is a nice addition

  • @Almin88
    @Almin88 Рік тому +22

    Pls Dave stop talking