VEGANS IN DANGER with LIERRE KEITH [Plant-based Tips]
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
- The benefits of a Vegan Diet for the planet and for your health are lauded by many. Eating animal flesh is currently repulsive to millions of vegans all around the world. Animal rights are promoted by so many. But, what if there were more to the story? What if a vegan diet didn't actually make the Earth healthier? What if eating certain plant foods led to the death of millions of creatures?
Lierre Keith is the author of seven books, including The Vegetarian Myth: Food, Justice, and Sustainability, which has been called “the most important ecological book of this generation.” She is coauthor, with Derrick Jensen and Max Wilbert, of Bright Green Lies: How the Environmental Movement Lost Its Way and What We Can Do About It. She is the founder of WoLF (Women’s Liberation Front), a nonprofit which is suing the state of California on behalf of women forced to share prison cells with men. She lives in the redwoods with an enormous pack of enormous dogs.
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“It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”
- Mark Twain
Same thing can go with the carnivore diet... Easy to convince people on foods they were brought up with...
Yeah the cognitive dissonance kicks in whenever people get given info which contradicts their belief system. It takes either a very open mind or desperation because one’s one belief clearly isn’t working to make a change in beliefs. Hopefully some vegans who are sick watch this brilliant video and realise why they are sick.
@@TheToplessChef-hf5eb this is what alcoholics refer to as a “spiritual awakening.”
@@TheToplessChef-hf5eb Why would they be sick ?
Pub Med have hard data on this .
Only group to be in the normal healthy BMI range.
Much lower rates of heart diseases , diabetes and cancer .
Who's the real sick ones ?👍
@@julienfroidevaux1143 Rubbish, vegans are no better than junk food addicts re heart diseases , diabetes, cancer and longevity. Many are skinny (thanks starvation), so BMI 'looks' healthy, I'll give you that.
I grew up on an 80 acre dairy and mixed crop farm in Wisconsin. We raised dairy cattle, beef cattle, pigs, chickens, ducks, geese. The cattle were fed dry hay and fermented corn silage. The birds were free range, and ate insects and seeds. We hunted and ate rabbit, squirrel, and deer. We grew peas, carrots, sweet corn, and beets for cash. We had a garden with dozens and dozens of vegetables and fruits for canning and freezing. We drank raw milk. We fished for freshwater panfish. I still eat the same at 77. Walk 4 miles per day in AZ. Triglycerides 29, HDL 109. A1C 55, fasting insulin 2.9. My doctor can't believe it. A lifetime of a healthy diet.
Interesting. What is your LDL and your TC?
I grew up on a farm just like you and we hunted game as well. I was unable to live the same because my mom sold the farm and land when my dad died and I think not living that lifestyle has contributed to my poor health even though I worked hard and constantly exercised. And of course I have never gotten a logical, complete answer from docs. It is always " I don't know but here's some more pills..."
@donaldlenz5745 did you consume raw dairy on the farm?
Me too. I regularly have to correct people about where food comes from. I'm always surprised by the (unintentional) ignorance.
I cook for a living and am deeply involved with food. We have one token vegan member that we cook special meals for. I see what he eats and cannot imagine he is healthy. We serve "Beyond Burgers" and impossible burgers. They smell absolutely disgusting. They smell worse than the absolute cheapest canned dog food. I try to convince people NOT TO EAT THEM. They are so incredibly highly processed... they are not food..... they are injected with some processed beet juice to appear as if they contain blood like a real burger. You would be so much better off to eat the beet and discard the processed beyondburger. Ugh!
Great show.
I went carnivore 13 months ago. No more migraines, arthritis, chronic neuropathy, gum disease, lost weight, feel 29 not 49 and my whole outlook on everything is better.
BUT .... Every day for the last 5 years I was worried about coming home and finding my son dead. He came to me last month and said "okay, how does this diet of your work?" in days he was a changed man, he's only ketovore but I don't care. He eats high fat meat, loads of eggs and now goes to the gym 3/4 times a week. No more soy, no more oils, no pasta, no rice. I hope he will soon be carnivore but I don't push because now I don't worry about him killing himself everyday.
Thanks to people like you Dr Berry my son lives.
❤️🥩❤️
Wow, what a profound testament to the power of eating predominantly whole food animal products. 👍
Fantastic
Is your arthritis autoimmune or ostheo?
Most be what your system needed. Think many different types of
I’m so glad for you and your son! ❤
I did home economics at school decades ago and it was drummed into us that the most important foodstuffs were Meat, Fish, Eggs, Cheese and Milk, along with their attendant fat. We cooked things like roast lamb, chicken soup and steamed fish with poached eggs and butter. How on earth I subsequently got sucked into vegetarianism for 30 years as an adult I'll never know! Two years carnivore now and healing every day!
Omg how interesting! I wish I had taken home economics in school. I was born in 76 and def remember the food pyramid posters being everywhere! But I never remember anyone actually following it. We're Hispanic and we grew up very lower middle class. We ate what was available: breakfast tacos (flour tortillas), rice, pinto beans, fideo (vermicelli), etc. Cereal, Pop Tarts, etc. Very carby. But I was also active in track in high school and quite fit. Crisco, vegetable oil, and Parkay were definitely a daily part of our diets as well. Now I know better! Lol
@@texastea5686 Thank you, Tea! Yes, culture has a lot to do with how we eat when we are young. Luckily you were able to run off those carbs! 👍😊 Now we know better, haha!
The empathy Dr. Berry is demonstrating toward vegans is what happens when going carnivore. Experiencing enhanced empathy was a complete surprise for me personally. People I used to think were just awful, I now understand are just people struggling. And I’ve even been able to forgive myself for past behavior, because I realize I myself was struggling. When I hear an ambulance, my first thought now is, Hope everyone’s okay. Never thought any of that previously. Living in Ketosis is truly wonderful and amazing.
There are some awful people too. Not everyone is bad. There are Liars that knowingly spread lies.they are awful.
@@SimplyHuman186 Some people’s struggle is other people.
Empathy is easier to access when you feel better physically, no doubt.
The empathy? They're just conjuring up things to make themselves look better. What empathy do you see here?
@@julienfroidevaux1143they speak about this directly in the interview if you watch it.
Wow Lierre, you are singing to choir, I got sucked in the vegan lifestyle because of the animal cruelty, it took me 12 years to realize vegan was not for me, 8 months ketovore I feel great
I originally had a huge gallstone, so naturally, I assumed it was from eating meat, dairy and eggs, so i decided to go plantbased. I was vegan for 2 years, thinking I was eating good wholesome plants. I felt great for about the 1st month and I also lost weight. After that first month, I felt awful, no energy, my gums were receding, and I generally felt unwell. I stumbled upon Dr. Berry's videos and I kept swiping them away and refused to watch them. Finally, I gave in and actually listened to him lol. I have been carnivore for about a month and a half and every problem I had went away. My mental clarity is insane right now. I no longer feel like I am in a fog. Thank God for Dr. Berry!!!
I was keto got really bad gallstones had to have my gallbladder removed. Not to mention I was in really bad health, pre diabetes, fatty liver, high cholesterol. I’ve now been vegan for over 5 years and wished I did it sooner. At 43 my health is the best it’s ever been my blood iron has improved. No longer have fatty liver high cholesterol, pre diabetes. My mental clarity is best it’s ever been, my cycle is normal, my skin is great. My energy is peaking, I’m runny the best I’ve ever run. So I’m the opposite.
Tho I think all this is achieved on a low carb keto carnivorous diet. I think these are short term gains. I was low carb for 10 years, after, my first born, I thought being low carb was best for weight loss. I was a yo-yo ticking time bomb. Was lucky I didn’t have a heart attack.
I remember Lierre as that pale, thin, miserable looking, angry person in the green resistance space. You look amazingly healthy and youthful currently! I’m so glad you found healing.
My thoughts aswell, she looks so healthy!
Fascinating! When did you know me? Thanks for your kind words as well. I hope I wasn't mean to you.
@@Lierre_Keith oh no I didn’t know you personally, just remembering videos of presentations with Derrick Jensen. I could be mistaken about the timing, however, i trird to figure out when it was you chsnged your way of eating and couldn’t. So I could be mistaking your passion and commitment to whatever cause was being discussed. You do look awesome currently and I sm super psyched that you’re feeling well and strong. 😃
I nearly died being vegan while pregnant. Pre-eclampsia (my kidneys were shutting down). The doctors told me if I didn't start eating meat I would die. I ate the meat.
@@julienfroidevaux1143 B12, vitamin D3, DHA, complete proteins.
I'm not anti-Vegan. I don't recommend Veganism either. Do what you feel is right, and nourish your children and brain and heart and skin and the earth around you. I was vegan for decades. My health through it was up and down, there are variables. I presently am no longer vegan, although i am still most attracted to plant foods. @@julienfroidevaux1143
@@hardinggrim4658 You can't get these things from plants or a synthetic vegan supplement ?
Kombocha ( not a animal product ) one serve = 100 % of your B12 RDI
@@julienfroidevaux1143Yeah, spinach has plenty of iron, yet spinach eaters still suffer iron deficiency. Its because plants have a defense system known as anti-nutrients, only 5% of the iron is bio-available. That is the problem with plants.
@@julienfroidevaux1143Thanks for confirming the vegan diet is nutrient deficient. Iron isn't the only nutrient you can't get from plants either.
I was vegetarian 4 almost 20 years and I was always sick with kidney infections and yeast infections and bladder infections and then about 3 years ago I found Dr Berry and now I'm healthy and I am 55 years old and I've never felt this great❤
Wonderful for you you're feeling better! But were you skinny getting most calories from vegies? That's the ONLY measurement of health vegans use...skinny-fat. Doesn't matter about how you feel as long as your skinny 🤣
@@kelsycunningham8452 nope. I was fat and I felt bad alot
@shannon2228 I've been vegetarian 25 years and am dying slowly with all my health issues. How do you get away from it. And how do you cope with the moral and ethical part of it if that part mattered?
We have no doctors where we are so it's hard to know anything. I'm also diabetic 😢
@@CookiesCritterCare the only way I could make it ethically okay in my head. I am more important than anything else on the planet because I cannot make the planet a better place if I am sick and dead and dying. You have to take care of yourself first when a airplane is about to crash. They always say put the air mask on yourself first because you cannot help other people unless you take care of yourself. Switch over to as much red meat and bacon and eggs and real butter. Fast as you can. Stay away from all carbs and sugars and vegetables are included in the stay away from category. Stay away from everything except meat and things that come from animals. You will reverse very fast. It has been 3 years for me now and I am healthier than I've ever been at age 55. There's always hope
@@CookiesCritterCare I am sending you love and healing strength
I still eat vegetables but I eat a lot of meat like chicken, lamb, beef and fish
Also eggs , butter , ghee, olive oil and coconut oil
I stopped eating any kind of rice, pastries,any kind of bread,noodles, some pasta,sugar, potatoes and any of starches
However, I made an exception to the rule!
If I am a guest anywhere , I need to be polite
So, without telling anyone about my ketovore diet , I select what I eat and in moderation!
In my age , I am slim and healthy! No maintenance!
I exercise regularly and I only eat when I’m hungry
Fasting for 14 to 16 hours daily is now adapted by my body
It became a way of life for me
Same thing I do. I'm 64 years old and it works out well. I have plenty of energy for my daily gym workouts. I don't see the need to be too militant about being a carnivore.
Well done👌
That's exactly the way I eat, started low carb last March and 18/6 intermittant fasting. All started when I stopped taking the Statins I was taking and were making me sick, I lost thirty kilos in four months and was able to stop taking blood pressure tabs.
ditto on all, but I occasionally eat de-starched (overnight fridged & reheated) brown rice and yams. My only processed food is limited to occasional sourdough whole grain or Ezekiel bread (which is way lower glycemic than any of the alternatives)
@@mickthefisherman1562This is intriguing to me; I'm trying to break the carb addiction. 18/6 sounds rough to me right now, but maybe when I become fat adapted this will be doable.
Omg what Lierre describes about the DRY SKIN, holy effing s... this is EXACTLY what I went through, as a vegan - it was sooo bad, itching and dry and cold all the time, and that chronic pain in back, tailbone, hip and then the joints too and then I was doing the organic veganism - NEVER junk food...DID NOT WORK.
BUT then carnivory SAVED me. It gave me my life BACK. OMG what a LIGHTBULB moment, LITERALLY.
MY BRAIN lit up, which was SUCH a GIFT.
And if you have gone through all this, you KNOW. You just KNOW. And the cholesterol MYTH will have NO impact, because YOU KNOW! YOU EXPERIENCED it.
I'm so glad you got out! I hope you have been able to recover !
Such a good comment. I feel exactly the same :)
Thank you
Omg that's me right now.
well science is not on your side here. just something feels good to you doesn't mean it is true, it's an anecdote. watch the video from mic the vegan, he references the science.
I was a raw vegan for almost 10 years, mostly fruitarian, in my approach to heal from ME/CFS. I felt great for some years, before my health started spiraling down again. Fast... At first I thought it was just healing crisis, from detoxing out old junk. But eventually my body couldn't take it anymore. I ended up with totally depleted omega 3's reserves, oxalate poisoning, histamine issues, and not to mention several nutritional deficiencies. Through the 20 years suffering from ME, I had never been that sick. The worst thing was that I felt what I will call a shutdown of my nervous system after eating, were it felt like all my energy was sucked out of me, so it was even difficult to breath. But I had so many other symptoms as well. Deep depression, high anxiety, jittery all the time, aches and pains in joints, muscles and even shooting pain from deep inside the bones. Horrible leg cramps. Huge sleep issues. Migraines. Dizzyness. Just to name a few.
At first I was scared of eating fish again, afraid of it making me more sick. Because I unfortunately still believed in the vegan dogma of animal products being unhealthy. But eventually I had no other choice because my body started rejecting all kinds of fruits and veggies, the same I had eaten with no problems earlier. And to my biggest surprise; I had no reaction to fish. It felt completely NEUTRAL to my body. Same with eggs. No issues. It actually felt more calming to my system. Meat on the other hand was hard to digest in the beginning, I didn't have sufficient stomach acid. No surprise, after following a diet that totally lacked sodium and fat. So together with omega 3 supplements and fish, eggs - I slowly felt more balanced both physically, mentally and emotionally. But it took me quite some time to stop the vegan belief of meat being unhealthy. And now after close to 3 years, I've just started embarking on a carnivore diet in order to heal my body and mind. Gosh; here I have been suffering from gerd for many years. And it totally stopped when I went carnivore! And your videos are also helping me a lot! Thank you ❤
Movies that personify animals are what made eating meat hard.
If you haven't tried a betaine hydrochloride supplement (available at natural food stores and over the internet) I highly recommend one. Eating high carb diets destroys our ability to make hydrochloric acid.
@@Lierre_KeithYes, I have been taking Betaine Hcl. But thanks for the advice. Have also been able to reduce it after going keto and now true carnivore.
And thank you so much for sharing your story. I can relate to so much of what you were saying. And you literally gave me an a-ha moment when you talked about how agriculture is not only hurting our health, but it's destroying our planet. Very eye opening. I will share this with my vegan friends.❤
@@ingunnhelen9931 I hope you can reach your vegan friends. It only gets worse the longer you are on that diet.
@@thebrickhouse8926 personify? i mean they have a personality, so how can they not be persons?
I'm an ex vegan of 13 years. Lierre, you sharing your story has helped me so much, because you are right; it becomes your identity. It's still hard, I have been eating animal products for 4 months now, and some days It still feels really weird. i was a big meater growing up, but Ive really brainwahsed myself; fruit and veggies = food. Animals: not food. i would look at meat and see corpses. I so enjoy it all when I eat it, but its really in my head. Especially now that its becoming more mainstream, Even not health consious peeple are now eating less meat because of the envirement etc. And now the they guilt trip me, even though they just have started and I was vegan 13 years and vegetarian 2 years before that. Suddenly Im the bad person. Anyway. Thank you for sharing, It had helped me so much making the desicion to eat meat again for my health. Not there yet, but I'm getting better.
brainwashed? someone not wanting animals to be hurt is brainwashed? maaaaan whats going on. guilt triping probably just means they're telling you that animals have to die for your choices, which is an objective fact. not the others problem if you feel guilty about objective facts honestly.
I went vegan 5 years ago. Stayed one for three years. Those were the hardest years for me:
1. Having to literally eat all day to stay satiated, like the gorillas do.
2. Being bloated all the time, and having huge and smelly - let's put it straight - farts, every 30 minutes, to the point I wanted to be alone to be able to let them rip and release the pressure and pain in my stomach.
3. Not being able to gain muscle weight, yet easily gaining fat weight.
4. Having very notable weight fluctuations, despite watching and weighing and measuring all my food, literally using a kitchen scale for everything I ate.
Now, 2 years carnivore, eating an occasional leaf of salad, 3 (three pieces) berries every month, but 99% is just red meet, chicken, turkey, eggs and butter.
My weight is stable, when I eat and I'm satisfied, I can feel that I don't want to eat anymore. Before, I would only stop eating when it would hurt so much, I couldn't sit anymore and had to lie down. I feel normal, healthy and strong. Over 40 now.
Eat your 🍖
Thank you for sharing :)
It's impossible to eat past satiation if you eat enough fat 💯
so where do you get your daily vitamin C intake from that is important to keep your immune system functioning? from the three berries per month? so absurd.
@@pestomitketchup read about it. I don't take supplements. Check why humans lost their ability to produce vit C
What were you eating? I have been vegan most of my life and I'm vibrant with health as are ALL of my vegan friends and family!
I shared this with my 30 yr old daughter. She got engaged to a vegan about a yr ago and has become a vegan herself. Thank you so much for this vlog. It says everything I wanted to tell her but couldn't find the words. Hopefully, she will watch this and share with her sweet fiance.
Take note that she did not take any suppliments. Awareness of how important B12 is 40 years ago was not around. Fifteen other vitamins are not available to human digestion of plants. Because of that, veganism destroyed her spine. If one is not willing to take a bag full of supplements and PiLLS forget about veganism.
Eating unprocessed food on the other hand is a good thing. Lack of animal protein and fats will eventually cause intense hunger and then vegans go into carb overload and health circles the drain.
Please find an indirect way to get the information across. Women will suffer greatly from iron deficiency and will go down the drain.
Buy her a copy of Lierre's book and tell her she has to read it. If she's rational, it'll convince her of the error of her ways.
Lierre’s book is excellent, beautifully written, and very empathetic to the vegan causes. You could read it then ask your daughter if she would consider reading it.
I've been plant based for 17 years and healthy.
Maybe like be she will see the flaws and bullshit
• Many have issues with the way cattle, poultry, and dairy industry treat animals. The USA should improve these conditions. 🇺🇸👌
We need lots of regenerative smaller farms. Let’s say goodbye to factory farming for both plants and animals.
Agreed. I hope to be able to buy land someday and have my own livestock and crops.
@@susanstillwell6305 ~ I agree 👍 💯
There are issues to get things back to a good place. The ideal thing would be to have people own small farms and provide their communities, but with stuff like Bill Gates buying all the farmland... Well, I don't have to explain how that's going.
That's true. No one wants to see animals treated badly. I'm in UK where animal welfare is better.
The 8 yrars of my life that i was a vegetarian were the unhealthiest years. Am going to be 69 next month and healthier than ever since starting the carnivore diet.
I was about to go vegan 😮! Thank you for stopping me. I thought it was healthier. Now I know better.
Do you???...
Because here in Reality the average Vegan does statistically better than the average animal eater...
Also Keith literally admitted she would cheat at "being Vegan" every chance she got aka she admitted she was never really a Vegan to begin with yet she now claims that something she never even was somehow harmed her and this is the low credibility level Ken allows to try to pretend he's helping people find the truth...
You might want to learn what proper discernment is and figure out how to find more credible sources for your information... ;-)
be lucky!! phew 😊
Don’t do it! Focus on the quality of the food you’re eating
Good for you! My thought on it is we have never encountered any civilization in the archaeological record that was vegan. That must mean something.
🙏💞
Did "it" three years...HUNGRY all the time, even though I ate beans, rice , veg and fruit...I gained 20 pounds...I even had a tooth break...NO matter what I will NEVER go back!!!
Sorry about your tooth. I hope you have been able to regain your health. It can be a long road.
I was vegan for 20 years and my 87 year old mom was vegan for 5 years. We became scrawny, my mom ended up with an iron deficiency and we started getting wrinkles. We just started eating grass fed beef, wild caught salmon and pasture raised eggs and our skin became beautiful. We looked dried out on the vegan diet😂😂
I ate only Whole Foods for 20 years. I also supplemented with various amino acids. I started eating meat because I was worried about my brain and skin. Vegans age like dried up people and their cognition declines because they aren’t getting enough fats in their brain. I have a lot of really young friends who are raw vegan and I’ve noticed how absent minded they are. They are lacking in choline, taurine, etc. I know all kinds of elderly people in their 90’s who eat meat which says a lot.
I have been vegan for 15 years, never had a health problem, by becoming vegan. I am not against carnovoure diet, but I feel that people who were vegans and fail, might not have been good cooks. I use my cast iron pan to Sautee my vegetables and have never had an iron deficiency.
One has to be a very good cook to be a vegan, you cannot be eating junk food or sugar, some people are not eating the right foods in order to have good health. I have only been sick once in 15 years because of contaminated almonds. My menu for a day. Chickpeas, cabbage, onions and tomatoes for breakfast. Lunch vegetable soup with flat bread. Supper. Curry pumpkin.
Most vegans buy their food in packages, there are not buying whole foods. Eg, I buy nothing in a can, my chickpeas are whole and cooked from scratch. Buy I see every one buying every thing in cans and bags. My reason for not eating meat has nothing to do with saving the animals, it came because my husband died from colon cancer and have never had a problem.
Sounds like you were doing it wrong lol. Been vegan 10 plus years and have zero health problems.
@@pastryshack551 I wasn’t a fake vegan and never buy packaged foods. You miss a lot of amino acids in the vegan diet.
@@mude_13 I never said that we had health problems. You need more choline and taurine in your diet because your comprehension skills are off. I was able to reverse my mom’s illnesses, but the vegan diet wasn’t enough because the soil is depleted. We are fine with a balanced diet.
You should have learned to eat a well-planned whole Food plant-based diet properly. Vegan is in a diet it's a philosophy. If you we're really vegan then you would have consulted a lifestyle medicine practitioner and found a way to tailor the diet to your specific needs which is easy to do. And it's easy to increase iron absorption with a little ascorbic acid-rich food like lemon, orange juice, or vinegar added to your iron-rich plant foods.
It´s amazing how much abuse our bodies can handled still get back to normal!
I know, it’s taken me 17 years to finally hit my stride after giving up all animal products in my diet.
51:18 why did I tear up when she said “my food actually repairs those biotic communities”? That’s a powerful statement. She said vegans have good taglines; I’d say that one is way better ❤
Good video. My story is the same as Lierre's. I ate a whole-food vegan diet for 35 years (from age 31 to 66). I didn't have any negative results other than a diminishing sex drive. When information about Keto came out I switched to a Keto diet overnight and two years after that I went full carnivore. I'm 70 now and feel great. No health issues. I build muscle in the gym by lifting weights. My libido is healthy and active. I'm amazed at how many people ignore watching videos like this one and continue to eat poorly.
"What do you eat for which nothing has died"?
Are we just going to pretend the Plant and Animal Kingdoms aren't separated scientifically for many valid reasons that would apply here???...
Are you sure you if you someone sees you (animal) passed out floating in the ocean and a potato (plant) floating in the ocean and only have seconds before both of you are out of reach to be saved that you want someone flipping a coin because potatoes are alive???...
FFS, It's like you animal eaters just hear the word Vegan and it short circuits your brains ability to function properly... Lol... Get real... ;-)
What plants does anyone eat that something hasn’t died? Millions of insects die from all the sprays they use and small mammals that dies from plowing up the fields ! In those huge farming fields of crops …Just some food for thought …..❤
8B animals are killed each year for agricalture planting
fertilizer
I’ve been type 1 since 1970. For years I ate low fat and high-fiber. I would cook whole kernels of grain, usually rye or hard wheat, and eat them with pasta sauce or low-fat cheese. I wasn’t watching my blood glucose carefully back then and assumed that I was doing the healthful thing…
Now I’m almost a carnivore and it’s really helped.
Type 1 here since 1998. I assumed I was eating the right things for years too. I had a very high carb diet, which now I regret. I've got some diabetes complications, but I hope turning carnivore will help. My blood glucose is certainly better, and I've lost weight too.
The food is so much more enjoyable too!
Type 1 here carnivore or keto Whole Foods is absolutely a game changer. You still have to manage your BG but it makes it easier.
Isn't it a common knowledge that carbs from grains spike glucose? Why did you eat grains with (probabbly sugary) pasta sauce to make it worse?
You need to eat vegetables high in fibre, good fats - butter, cheese, nuts, quality oil (olive oil, flaxseed oil coldpressed) not grains, also careful with potatoes.
@@monikamona6844 Diabetics are told to eat high carb, low fat foods by their diabetes team.
@@jenny395791 pepple who have diabetes are told even by family doctors to cut down on sugar and carbs, especially processed like bread, pasta
I was a vegan for 10 years. I became overweight racked with pain mental and emotional issues exhaustion. Basically I was starving. As a vegan I was dying a slow death from starvation...it was terrible. The first time I ate some ground beef butter and eggs I literally felt myself come back to life!
I was “just“ vegetarian for four years, and I’m glad I was in my 20s. If I did such a thing after age 50 I don’t think I could bounce back from it.
My friend as well. He was so crippled he couldn’t sit up straight to watch a movie. He said his body was really crazing the animal fats.
Your mitochondria thanked you for finally eating something bioavailable
I'm where you are and am scared. I don't know what to do 😢
I've been vegetarian 25 years
Not only do animals eat other animals, but there’s not an animal on Earth (including our dear pets) that would hesitate to eat a human if necessary. So the very idea that there’s some kind of inherent moral code in Nature is a fallacy.
I agree. I've been finding that even herbivores still eat meat. Horses caught eating baby chicks, deer eating birds, rabbits eating their young, and all the bugs herbivores eat on plants. Its even been discovered that gorilla's eat some meat. So I really don't know that any living thing is ever truly vegan.
I used to think that chipmunks were cute/cuddly until I had one killing/eating a nest of baby robins outside my kitchen window.
@@laurenann8859 oh man! I didn't know they were capable of that! I just think of Chip and Dale, lol! But they have to get their nutrition too!
I never feel like I belong in this dimension because of the indifference of 'nature', it chills me. Seeing creatures eat each other, it never ceases to make me sad and make me feel uneasy about being alive in this kind of world (cursed). I can't help but feel like I resonate more with how earth is suppose to be (without the curse) or with another dimension. I'm conflicted on exactly what to do about it, in the meantime I love hearing of all these perspectives and I'm glad that others are acknowledging that animals aren't more moral than us lol. I do think we have more capabilities, and with that comes more moral responsibility in the long-run or at least more effort. But I know there are better ways to farm animals and reduce their suffering. And meat can be so healing and many need it,, I also know that the factory farms aren't the only causing suffering to life
so you base your moral standards on non-human animals? so do you also r*pe women and kill children because lions do that too and there is no moral code? we as human beings have opted out from most of the laws of nature. i mean, your writing your comment on a smartphone. and that is a good thing. it seems like people take this "XY is not natural, therefore not good" argument if it fits their bias.
Born in 64 also. Turning twenty this year.
Leap year baby?
@@mrsducky3428 sure
Me too
Why not right?
Love Lierre Kieth! So glad you had her on your show!
Thank you!!
This is my second time watching (watched live yesterday and watching again now). And the reason I'm so interested is because I'm trying my best to understand how folks get into being vegan, how they think, and if / how what they think changes once these concepts are presented to them. I'm ketovore and a regenerative farmer, so I understand this side of things very well. But I want to better understand the vegan thought process so that I can better educate folks who might eventually visit my farm.
That being said, I would think eggs would be one of the easiest animal-based foods for someone who is vegan to eat. A hen is going to lay eggs regardless of the environment she's in, and if she isn't living with any roosters those eggs aren't going to be fertilized. So by collecting and eating eggs we aren't forcing anything on the hen and we aren't killing her babies. If uncollected those eggs would either be eaten by a predator or left to decompose, yet they can be used for food for people who need it without bringing harm to anything. In many cases even milk can be collected without harm to a mother or baby. Many dairy animals produce more milk and for much longer than their babies drink it. Dairy goats often like to wean their kids within a few weeks, but continue to produce milk for months after their kids have fully weaned. Milking them regularly until they dry out naturally actually helps them. It keeps the skin and muscles of and around the udder in good condition and helps to prevent mastitis. And while folks argue the health benefits of cow's milk, goat milk can actually be used as a replacement for synthetic baby formula. It's MUCH healthier than synthetic formula as it has enzymes and bacteria that support gut health without any added chemicals, synthetic vitamins, or preservatives. Goat milk is also beneficial for us beyond infancy and childhood. We're essentially just making use of something that would be there anyway but might otherwise go to waste. And from it we can make a host of other healthful foods.
I have found that most vegans have never seen a farm, ranch or anything having to do with raising crops or livestock. You have your work cut out for you. 😅
Hens nowadays produce eggs every day except in the winter (when they produce none unless you put them through unnatural conditions which of course they do in the egg industry) whereas in the wild hens produce 12 to 14 eggs a year. Backyards hens come from hatcheries where about 50% are born male and 50% female. They keep the females that they will sell to people for backyard hens when the male chicks are being ground up alive or suffocated to death. So I would not say that babies are not killed and that we aren't forcing anything on the hens where in those hatcheries the chicks never see the protective wings of their moms like in the wild.
You can understand that dairy follows the same process.
Why people choose to think deeply about what they eat? 70% of Americans are overweight or obese. As a health care worker, I am tired of seeing diabetes, high blood pressure and cholesterol riddled bodies who don't think about what they eat. Now, I see lots of crohns disease and ulcerative colitis and young people needing portions of their bowels cut out. Do think about what you put in your mouth.
If you want to understand how folks get into being vegan you should talk to them or reach out to long-term vegan doctors and communities and not try to learn this by watching a carnivore channel with a former psuedo-vegetarian trying to make a living on bashing vegan and vegetarian diets. Most persons trying a "diet" fail and often people fail or hate carnivore and keto (which can be dangerous). This is all pretty surface level stuff in this video with no push-back on the shallow logic from an active vegan in the conversation. It's basically an ad to feel-good about raising and killing animals to eat. The tropes applied one-sided to vegans here are funny; "most vegans have never seen a farm" if that's true then most people have never seen one- I drive past them all the time and I have even worked on a farm that raised and baled hay and alfalfa and also raised cows and horses. I have had numerous gardens over the years, so don't even understand that comment in reply to your post. Humans don't need cow milk because it is very unlike human milk and only humans drink the milk of other animals. Dairy cows lead miserable lives for the most part. I don't find any compelling science for humans needing cow milk and your comments about dairy, absent supporting research, don't mean much.
@@bobbell6485 Thanks for being the voice of reason here.
I too have tremendous guilt eating animals! I get so sad knowing that something died for me to eat it. I feel selfish and disgusted with myself for killing something. I cant even kill ants!! THANK YOU so much for this wonderful presentation full of knowledge and things that make complete sense! You have helped me feel so much better about eating meat now. It is the circle of life after all and i will be food someday too. It is a beautiful thing. I really loved this video!! You two are so awesome! THANK YOU!!
Its not the circle of life , its the circle of death and cruelty .
Why not emulate the herbivirious animals instead of this imaginary circle of yours ?
@@julienfroidevaux1143 Demented. If you care about other creatures so much, quit that destructive vegan diet of yours.
@@julienfroidevaux1143everything dies. Everything. Every thing. What is this fantasy that veganism is the ticket to immortality?
Animals are killed in farming plants, as well. It happens. There are some people who would rather put their health at risk to save certain animals. I’m not one of them.
@@julienfroidevaux1143
LOL...why don't you go and try to convince the carnivorous animals on earth that they shouldn't be part of this cycle of "death and cruelty". Go try it and let us know you go.
Plants require nutrients from rotting organic matter, including dead ANIMALS. So even plants aren't vegan.
I grew up on a farm. I was the first to become a vegetarian in my family at age 12. My grandma thought I’d die! Obviously I haven’t! I’ve never liked fish my whole life. And I don’t care much for eggs! But I’ve learned that by eating a well balanced diet I feel best!
I prefer to take a non-assholish approach too😀
I was vegetarian for 17 years followed by 9 years of veganism. My experience was very similar to Lierre’s. Riding that sugar roller coaster is tough. Especially when I did the Dr. McDougall Whole Foods, high starch low-fat, I had low blood sugar daily, sometimes multiple times a day. I’m glad that’s in the past.
I tried the McDougall food plan and it was awful. I was always hungry. I could eat 5,000 calories of rice and never feel full. I got so fat and miserable.
Lierre I read your book a couple of years ago and it was one of the most sincere and heartbreaking narratives I’ve ever read. You steel-manned the vegan arguments and then obliterated them, without any nastiness. I grew up on NZ high country farms and was never tempted by veganism. But I can see every day in the city how people become so detached from the natural world that they will buy these poor arguments. Appreciate your work.
Thank you for your kind comment!
Yup I was a strict serious vegan for 14 yrs and ended up having a lot of health issues. My husband was vegetarian / vegan for 42 yrs and recently went carnivore due to health issues. I am also carnivore. We both feel amazing.
The single eternal truth is that Life consumes Life.
Which is why if you care about life you should be Vegan since Veganism harms far less life... ;-)
Oh dear @@RaceLever
@@josephbarker6608 ... That's quite an argument you for formulated there... Do you have anything of substance to offer or are you good leaving it at that failure and running away... ;-)
@@RaceLeverwrong.
@@RaceLeveryou have nothing of substance to offer. You will eat ze bugs like the rest of your cult members.
I was a vegan for 10 years...then i met dr berry and im the healthiest ive been in decades. God bless you DB. ❤❤❤❤
If you care about the science or your health, weigh the information in this video against the science presented in the response video made by Mic the Vegan on his channel.
I was vegan for probably around 5-6years, together with my stepdaughter, who was even stricter than I.. my husband had a lot of fruit and veg with us, but he kept saying that instead of calling herself a vegan my stepdaughter should be saying “I practise veganism “ the same way as we say about our profession.. I practice something instead of I am someone/something.. this way it helped us both get out of it and change. The most difficult thing to change is not the diet but the identity, the thinking and the status we think we have and are afraid of losing. This took a while. We now eat mostly carnivore food and are rebuilding our bodies. We feel a lot more relaxed and stable mentally and stronger physically. What a journey!
This is so good to hear. It is troublesome to listen to hate. There is so much of that in the world. I tried veganism for about a year to try and cure autoimmune conditions. It did the opposite...I got sicker.
Are you doing carnivore now? I have been carnivore for two years and completely cured my psoriatic arthritis. It can be a real life miracle. Best of luck to you.
I can relate. I tried being a vegan for about 10 years and it totally wrecked my health. Thank God I found information on KETO and the
proper human diet.
diet.
Lierre, thank you for your wonderful book! I have shared it with several folks and it has been a real gift to those who “have ears to hear”. I was an obese vegan for years, now a carnivore since 2019, easily maintaining my health & goal weight with glowing vitality.
Blessings spirit sister!
So glad I was able to help! It's wonderful to hear from people who went down the same path as I did who are now repairing their health.
She helped me so much! I read her book multiple times and will read it yearly as the plant based messaging is so strong that sometimes I get pulled back. The book is a great slap in the face.
Actually what is really happening is that reality is breaking through to you so you read her book to get pulled back into deception... ;-)
So glad I could help!
@@Lierre_Keith ... You are opposite of a help to the world you are a bane to it regardless of if using a fake account or real... ;-/
Lierre, you are a national treasure. Would you consider applying to be Secretary of Agriculture please? I’m begging you! 💕
One can dream 😍😍😍
I'd love a position where we could actually make some serious policy changes. I doubt I'm hire-able, though.
@@Lierre_Keith what changes? more throat slitting of sentient beings, legitimized with anecdotes (your own personal story) and logical fallacies? I mean it's clear by your responses that you didn't understand the ethics behind veganism. you were plant based, not a vegan. watch the response from mic the vegan.
I was a vegetarian in the 90s through the early 00s after reading the John Robbins book, Diet for a New America, and having a vegetarian older sister (who is still veg at 65 with a pacemaker). When I started nursing my son, this was 2004, I started craving steak for the first time in my life and I felt so guilty. A friend recommended Lierre's book and everything turned upside down-rather everything that WAS upside down finally turned right side up. The most amazing change was my mental health. YEARS of anxiety and depression VANISHED. Therapy didn't do it. Yoga didn't do it. Meditation didn't do it. Eating animals and eliminating sugar did it. You changed my life. Thank you!
If you care about the science, ethics, or your health, weigh the information in this video against the science presented in the response video made by Mic the Vegan on his channel. He has another video debunking her book too.
Before I developed celiac disease, kidney disease, a-fib, I loved to cook. My mom was a good cook. Ditto my grandma. So many great dishes. Then along came the Joy of Cooking and Julia Child and the era of the foodie. I was all in. For many years. Some of my favorite dishes came from a cookbook called “The Vegetarian Epicure.” Nobody said hey, what you are eating is making you sick. Now I’ve been carnivore for about five months and feeling better. I’m old but I feel ok, not weak and foggy. What a relief to not have that weighing me down. I do not trust anything the CDC, the FDA, or any other government agency that’s screwing with our health. That’s their legacy from me.
I don’t trust the alphabet agencies either, esp since Covid. That’s where the “plant-based” agenda is being supported because our government has been captured by leftists and is pushing the green new deal silliness.
I’m so lucky to have awesome grass fed meats and wild game options around me. But for those who can’t afford it, eat what you can. As more of us can afford and support grass fed farming, it will become more available to the masses.
I absolutely adored this interview. What a beautiful spirit and heart you have, Lierre! I am so thankful you are in the world!
Dr. Berry, thank you for having this marvelous person as a guest. This was one of the best hours I have ever invested in.
Aww, thank you for your kind words.
Thank you for having Lierre on. This is such a good discussion.
Her book changed my life- best book on the subject ever written. Thank you Lierre!
So glad I could help!
I got sucked into the WFPB vegan diet that was touted to heal me of my Rheumatoid arthritis. I was so strict on it as I was desperate for healing, but all I ended up with was a host of other debilitating symptoms and ailments. My doctor suggested I try carnivore over a year ago and, despite my initial scepticism, I was so desperately ill, that I tried it. ALL my symptoms are gone, I'm off the toxic biologic medications and feeling and looking better than ever! I used to go to the doctor once a week...haven’t been to a doctor now in 6 months but at my last visit there was zero signs of inflammation markers in my blood, ideal blood glucose and my CAC heart scan score was zero. I have no hate for vegans and still have vegan friends, I just hope people who see how healthy and happy I am now is more convincing than any words I could say. ❤
That was most encouraging n inspirational
Good f u❤🎉😊
How long were you WFPB?
I've been vegan for 5 years, lots of fruits, salads, nuts, seeds, legumes. I happen to love these foods. I remember as a child gagging on milk and beef, and always being carsick after an egg breakfast. I developed a near fatal autoimmune disease at age 23 while eating the standard American diet, including dairy and animal products. I'm 65 now and have come to understand that i had sub clinical deficiencies and low thyroid which led to my health issues. I think it's very crucial to find a doctor who will do functional lab work to identify deficiencies and food sensitivites instead of assuming that one type of diet is superior to another. God eventually gave humans permission to eat animals but remember that we were originally created for the Garden of Eden. Genesis 1:29-30: Then God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you; and to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the sky and to every thing that moves on the earth which has life, I have given every green plant for food”; and it was so. Then after the fall: Genesis 9:3-4 Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you; I give all to you, as I gave the green plant. Only you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood.
So any food can be healthy depending on the individual's specific needs. Its not one diet vs. another.
The admonition is against eating blood or meat with the blood. That’s why kosher or halal meats are completely drained of blood. The meat properly prepared was not a problem.
But now nearly most plants and some fruits have been hibridised rendering them harmful for us in due time making us ill.
I was a vegetarian for 9 months. Got more and more tired no matter what supplements or anything I tried. Then I started getting narcolepsy. I would be sitting there one minute watching TV and the next I would wake up an hour later not knowing what happened.
So one night I bought myself a steak and had it.
The next morning I woke up feeling great, tons of energy, no more narcolepsy. That was cue to never be vegetarian again 😂
Vegetarian is short for “vitamin restricted diet”
Why didn't you try a well-planned vegan diet, the evidence supports a well-planned vegan diet comprised of whole plant foods. It sounds like you were way off track if you were trying to go vegetarian.
@VeganLinked there's no such thing. Humans aren't designed to be vegans. It's never been done historically and there are no vegan cultures in human history.
@@scullyfox4271 there are plenty of lifelong vegans and multi-generational. There's always been vegans they just are spread out all over the world. There's around 100 million vegans at least on the planet right now making their self known.
@@scullyfox4271 also what we did throughout history during desperate times when we didn't live as long doesn't necessarily reflect what we should be doing now with unprecedented amount of people on the planet, and living longer lives than ever before. We've done all kinds of violent things to get to this point. But as humane and humans we have been trying to move away from our violent tendencies.
Two days ago, I cleaned out my cupboard and books of plant and juicing! I cleaned out my freezers and refrigerator of greens I froze for smoothies and fruit!😂😂😂😂😂
🎉🎉🎉 congratulations!!! I’m excited for you to heal your body. My goal in life is to have a long healthy life 😊
I remember all the 💯% " natural " fruit juice that I used to drink ... 😔
What's wrong with greens ? Thanks
You will be healthier for it!🎉
@@johnb4183Oxalates is one of the issues with greens.
Thank you for having Lierre Keith on! She’s such a treasure. I was never a vegan but was a vegetarian for over two decades to my own health’s determent. It wasn’t until I was in court covering the NXIVM cult defendants early hearings that I realized how damaging a diet can be to one’s health. The women defendants were on a low calorie vegan diet and their skin was a color of grey/yellow I’ve never seen in a human being!
Oh, I did not know that about NXIVM. What those women suffered... and now adding orthorexic starvation. Yes, I know that skin color. Thanks for your work on that disturbing case. People need to understand cult dynamics to inoculate themselves (and their children).
Vegetarian for 47 years, i started introducing meat and fish last year, working towards a carnivore lifestyle now, I wish I had people around me like you guys when I was 9 years old, rather than the Vegetarian/vegan lies I was so influenced by, bless my parents, I was a complete nughtmare, and they were in fact right, it made me very ill, I am nearly 60, sadly my parents are not here to see me changing my lifestyle, just wish I had come to this years ago!
It saddens me greatly the amount of people, especially young people, that are listening the way I did to all the lies, and starting on their Vegetarian/vegan way of life and certainly their jouney just like mine into certain ill health.
This is an amazing interview! I have been mostly carnivore for over a year and still struggle a little bit with eating animals. This interview has made me feel so much better with my choice. Thank you!!
If this interview made you feel better about making more harmful choices you should learn how to discern reality properly instead so you don't fall for deceptions like this video...
I mean Keith literally said before she cheated on being "Vegan" every chance she got which by default means she was never actually a Vegan to begin with... She then tried to claim something she never even was somehow harmed her...
Unless you can explain how something someone never actually truly did or was harmed them you might want to ask yourself why would these two be using deception to try to pretend they are helping people find the truth???... ;-)
@@RaceLeverthe amazing thing is you are here listening to the truth because one day you will be so happy that you know the truth so you can help yourself when your health etc comes crashing down.
@@jonelleolds-ruppel1159 ... What's really amazing is you actually believe what you just typed... Wrong kind of amazing for you though...
The person in this interview accidentally proved she has no concern for the truth or telling it nevermind an ability to grasp it properly...
If you think the info here along with the title is so accurate then I have an invisible bridge to sell you at a great price...
I already know the truth in regards to these topics so grab a mirror and gaze into it as you read that comment you typed to yourself so that way you can be sure your message gets where it actually needs to go... Get real... :-)
Feel free to reach out if you ever need to. It's a very hard and confusing road back to reality and wellness.
@@Lierre_Keith ... What would you know about helping people through confusion when you were either so confused or dishonest that you admitted you ate nonVegan foods every chance you got which by default proves you were never even Vegan to begin with then you have the audacity to lie to everyone and tell them something you never even were somehow harmed you...
You literally claim something you never even actually were harmed you and you're going to help people ???... Help them do what, be as dishonest and/or as confused as you???... Get real... ;-)
Excellent info. I was vegan for a few years. I gained weight, my hair was falling out, I was losing strength and stamina. I had bought into all the plant based doctor garbage. I finally decided to listen to the other side of the conversation and so glad I did. Now if I listen to the plant based 'doctors' I think they are just crazy.
I loved your strong warning about unhelpful comments. I’m ketovore but I truly respect others decisions. Vegans do what they do for very strong reasons. Regardless of the science, they have their reasons just like we do. The science supports my way of eating but that doesn’t mean that I don’t understand their motivations.
Yea their motivators have decimated the monarch butterflies due to cartels destroying the rainforest habitat to grow avocados.
Thanks! This message needs to be repeated, revisited, and gone over again and again.
Thank you Jennifer!
For me, it's not that eating animals is unethical. It's the horrible way food animals live and are then killed. I have always eaten meat because my body craves it, but I wish meat producers would be ethical and compassionate. I buy grass fed sometimes but I really can't afford it.
This was an awesome conversation! I appreciate this video Dr Berry! Lierre is awesome and feel the same way about life. I remember first hearing about monocropping and how damaging it really is on Joe Rogans podcast many years ago. It’s honestly just as horrible if not worse than factory farming of animals 😢. As much as I can on my budget I eat food from what I call happy animals. Animals being animals, getting sunshine, not being stressed, eating what they are supposed to eat.
I hope we haven’t completely destroyed the Earth 🌎 and can come back from the all damage we humans have done and get back to regenerative agriculture. Thanks again, Lierre is really awesome, it is a circle of life, stop trying to draw lines!
You feel like “your place in the cosmos has collapsed”.
Exactly. It’s like losing a fundamentalist belief system, waking up from a cult, the whole way you view the world and your place in it, self identification, your purpose, your identity.
Which I why I want to be so super cautious in my life going forward of ever leaning in so hard one particular way. I’m finding there is always so much to learn and not to think I have it all figured out. I am super grateful for this knowledge being shared here. Thanks to you both.
If you care about the science, ethics, or your health, weigh the information in this video against the science presented in the response video made by Mic the Vegan on his channel.
Dear Dr Berry, I do so like your informative videos. I spent 6 years of my life learning everything I could find out about food and diet. I know the leaders of the various factions in the food wars battle. I've followed the information and the disinformation. I really wish we would all stop fighting. I'm almost 75 years old and if I could pick the perfect diet for myself it would be a diet of fish and fruit on some tropical island in the Pacific. Unfortunately I live in the frozen north of Toronto Ontario Canada. I feel so bad when I see folks getting into a vegetarian versus meat eating argument. This is what I have learned. Approximately 49% of people are blood type O. About 38% are type A. About 10% are type B and about 3% are type AB. The O types are the natural carnivores. The A types are the natural herbavores. The A and AB types are the natural omnivores. There's a preferred diet for every blood type. Whether or not you're Rh positive or Rh negative is not a factor in your proper diet. We should all be eating the diet which is best for our physical, mental and emotional health. There is no one perfect diet for everyone on the planet. That is absurdity insane. Unless of course you are talking about absolutely everyone avoiding the Standard American Diet, processed food, junk food, fast food, convenience food, packaged food, imitation food and the latest invention, fake food. That's the food we should all be up in arms against not whether we prefer to shop in the produce isle or the meat isle. Interestingly enough, type O's, the carnivores, live the longest because they have the fewest heart attacks. The A's, the omnivores have the shortest life spans. And, the B's and AB's have the worst overall health. Therefore, eating meat will not shorten your life and eating grains and veggies will not extend your life. It's actually the opposite. You have been lied to. My blood type, O negative, puts me in the dominant food group, the carnivore camp, and I really do understand the rise of the carnivore push back against the religious herbavore camp who have been so vocal about pushing their moral agenda and influencing educational institutions, research studies and published results. AKA, the Seventh Day Adventist Church folks which began back with the creation of John Kellogg's Corn Flakes to prevent teen boys from masturbating. These folks are silent, highly motivated and deadly serious in their agenda. On the other hand you have the giant food/drug corporations whose god is financial profit for a few at the cost of the health of health of the masses. Yes, they want you fat and sick and addicted to prescription drugs. It's all profit for them. Let's not fight between whether we choose to eat primarily animal foods or rather we prefer to eat primarily plant foods. No plant wants to be eaten any more than any animal does. But we're human and we gotta eat and we're definitely top dog on the food chain. We all need to say grace before we chow down no matter what we choose to eat. God bless you all. 😊
❤lovely expletives 😊
If you care about the truth, science, ethics, animal life, or your health, weigh the information in this video against the science presented in the response video made by Mic the Vegan on his channel.
I wouldn't trust anything that comes from that guy's mouth
You may need to rethink that idea on blood types as reality is diabetes and chronic illness doesn't discriminate or care what blood type you are.
Really enjoyed the video, could have listened to another hour. I'm not a vegan, never been vegan, I don't even like salad or most vegetables but I tried to eat them as much as I could stand because we were all told they were good for us. No more. I'm currently low carb working towards carnivore & I feel good not forcing myself to eat things I don't even like the taste of.
Stop being so dramatic... you're acting as if plants are killing you. It's just a lack of balance.
@penultimania4295 Who is being dramatic? I don't like the taste of most plants & veggies.
Denmark went vegetarian. They put out a government commitment to go green and become the world leader of plant-based food consumption by next year. The Sámi in Norway are also being infiltrated with Westernized foods, destroying their cultural heritage. I am really upset by this Westernized movement of forcing hyper-processed plant foods onto cultures that didn't ask to be changed.
Lierre was a pioneer in opening up the conversation about the myth of vegetarianism.
She endured the ire of the left and much disparagement.
Very courageous lady.
A groundbreaker!!!!!!!
What does politics have to do with anything? Most carnivores I know are liberal, and I know a few extremely conservative vegans.
@@Puglover130 well lierre comes from the left so that's why it's relevant. She has also endured the ire of the left because of her work on women's rights. They've been trying to cancel her for years 🙄
Yes she is my hero 💜💜💜💜
@@megankwisdom What does advocating for women's rights and eating carnivore OR vegan have to do with the price of tea in China? Could we please keep politics out of the discussion?
@@robinbeers6689 I take it you don't know much about lierre 😅 to OP's point, she is incredibly brave to be speaking about the things she does and you have to understand the political context to appreciate that. Stating such facts is not political. If you don't like certain comments just move on, no need to start drama ☺️
Lierre, Finally got your book.I love hearing her tell her story. Another love note to you✨. I began crying in my salad one day- thinking this is living too. What will I eat ?
I have my own 20 year experiment as plant based. I was so misinformed. I thought I was a healthy eater. I was eating very similar to Lierre. I got so sick. I understand her story. Nutrivore today. Thank you very much for this interview.
Speaking from ONLY my own personal experience, I've NEVER met a vegan or vegetarian who was 'all there' mentally. Physically they don't look healthy either. I've never understood the attraction to the lifestyle, and thankfully, I NEVER saw anything they were selling that I wanted. Pray for these people - they desperately need the truth.
They don't want to hurt anything. That is the attraction for most people who go vegetarian or vegan. Often they are young and naive.
Ive met lots of them. They just arent fighting on the internet with other wackos. Im technically a "vegetarian" I guess. Havent eaten mammals in 15+ years. Go & look at me, Im 47. I eat egg yolk & fish every couple of weeks. Mostly eggs & simple sugars. No mammals. Technically fish falls in the vegetarian category whatever that means? I dont care about the labels. But I know plant based vegans who supplement & are totally healthier than being on a processed foods diet. Its possible. Im not gonna do that but im healthier without mammals eating eggs & some fatty fish & shellfish.
Dr Ellsworth Warlhem a near life long vegan was still doing surgeries in his 90's.
Lived till 104 .
How many carnivores alive in their 90's let alone doing surgeries 😂.
Does my verifiable anecdote trump your unverifiable Anecdotes?
Can you name me one nutrient that can't be found in a plant or a vegan supplement ?
None of you people can cite any .😂
Annette Larkins a near lifelong vegan in her 80's looks healthier and more vibrant than most women in her 50's .
Again does my verifiable aneycdite trump your unverifiable anecdote .
Ill soon find out by how many upvotes I will get .😂
The comment sections of carnivore influencers are full of ex-vegans who now eat carnivore to heal their health. The internet has reports of children dying or suffering malnutrition when fed a vegan diet. What does the vegan diet do to adults long term??
To start with, Iron deficiency anaemia is a big one that comes pretty quickly - especially for women. Metabolic and hormonal disorders are next.
@@gracevandenbergen... To finish with despite your fear mongering the average Vegan does statistically better than the average animal eater and 99+% of all the malnourished children in the news and/or in real life are nonVegan...
But ya know let's all ignore what eating animals does to meat eating "adults" is make them play pretend like little children in order to try to ignore that pesky Reality thing... ;-)
Lierre’s explanation of “the circle” at about 42:00 on through 46:00 is just beautiful.♎️
a circle of death
@@pestomitketchup Can't have one without the other.
We aren’t farmers, yet we’ve lived in farming communities all our lives. I still learned so much from this video. Thanks, Dr. Berry and Lierre for this invaluable information!
Girlfriend you dont need 2 hours... Those 3 minutes blew my mind and i already knew everything you said. You just said it PERFECTLY!
Just. Words are very powerful
Saying
Blew my mind. I feel is wrong
Saying that
Discernment
Just say like oh it's
Astounding. Got it
She is spot on 👍🏼... Circle of life ! We can't beat nature and " the laws of nature " it doesn't mean you don't have compassion, it's actually the other way around.... Being a part of nature and living a natural life is the most compassionate thing you can do. Humans are too clever for their own good. I'm so grateful to have found people like you guys..... Knowledge and balance is key ❤
Gorillas? Elephants? Rhinos?
Another different note about the different lifestyles I was thinking about is meal prepping. Vegan and vegetarian dishes don't have a terribly long shelf life and so they need to almost constantly be cooking or thinking about food. I put a beef brisket in my slow cooker last Sunday. I put a pork roast in my slow cooker in it on Monday. I've had a busy week. I've been able to eat off those 2 low effort cooks all week in minutes.
I loved the Vegetarian Myth Book! I always needed lower car but kept thinking I should be vegetarian. Read the book when I tried Paleo, but still overate the higher carb fruits and root veggies because of a high insulin release. I am finally doing better on 50 grams of carbs or less a day. Thanks for having me Lierre Keith as a guest.
Thank you Dr Berry and your guest Lierre
May God continue protecting you both and your families
Great interview. I have similar philosophy and experience as Lierre. The circle of life is a beautiful thing, including the death bit. It takes some people a bit of emotional and spiritual growth to understand that us humans are not independent of that system.
Yes and not only is death natural and ok, animals do not experience life, death and pain the way we do - we can't anthropomorphize them. they have their own way of being and living and experiencing things and we shouldn't take that away from them in order to make ourselves feel better.
This all hits so close to home for me! My sister is a hardcore vegan and has 2 boys that are as well. But to me she doesn’t look healthy. I think it’s inflammation!
This lady is one of the brightest mature and compassionate people I've had the pleasure of listening to in a long time! Thank you Dr. Berry for the introduction!
Plants have feelings, Lierre is right. They scream when loggers cut them down, indigenous culture agree.
I do feel bad about cutting trees and thinning seedlings and point that out to a staunch vegan I know.
Plants also send nutrients through the route networks to neighboring trees. Some plants put out insecticides if a neighboring plant close to them is being invaded. Vegans are totally taking lives and eating things that used to be alive as well. It is that circle of life. Things must die for other things to live.
@@hanginlaundry360If you feel bad about tress being cut down why do you eat 🐂?
According to the UN , Worid Bank , Greenpeace etc around 80% of Amazon deforestation is due to one animal 🐂.
@@julienfroidevaux1143 I don't think that you watched the whole video. I don't think that you know what is really going on, the deforestation to grow monoculture crops. Not only that but also desertification caused by monoculture agriculture. And you believe the UN, World Bank, Greenpeace and others that promote a plant based diet and want humans to eat insects!!! But you are right the deforestation of the Amazon is caused by one animal and it's not a bull but we the humans. Other animals aren't as dumb as humans who destroy the environment that they live in. That means that you also are equally guilty as those who commit the crime.
Just imagine what a dog must feel...
No words for how amazing this message is. I'm getting so emotional, because my pastors wife has been vegan since COVID 2020, because her brother had a heart attack, and she thought it was from the beef.😢 I'm still dealing with a lot of issues from having MS and other autoimmune with inflammation and still quite a bit overweight, I'm working really hard too conquer those things with carnivore diet. So it's hard because I don't look the bill of health right now, so I know she won't listen to me. She still been struggling with her blood sugar the whole time, and I just pray eventually that I'll be able to share this message with her and others that are struggling with vegan type of lifestyle..🙏🏽💜
I hope you are able to reach her. And good luck on your own journey. Carnivore works!
@@Lierre_Keith Thanks so much for your kind words of encouragement! My hope is the same, and I will do my very best to be the best example I can, to help her make this wise decision..🙏🏽💜
I have been back and forth with being plant based and / or vegan all because of documentaries.
Also, doctors like Dr. McGregor.
I have been so confused and stressed out over all of this for the last three years over this .
But the crazy thing is I grew up living off the grid with my dad and living off the land most of my young life.
I never got sick, always fit, and a very happy person .
So I don't understand why I 😮would not have put 2 and 2 together .
So just to tell you thank you so so much for this video 😊❤
You have cleaned the air for me😊
If you care about the truth, science, ethics, animal life, or your health, weigh the information in this video against the science presented in the response video made by Mic the Vegan on his channel.
Mere words cannot express the hopes that vegan and carnivores alike will hear Lierre's path. She has lived through. and had revelations of, the great gaps in our society about foods and Diets fads of the many years in the USA. You both showed great compassion for humans caught in a very sticky and confusing emotional and intellectual war, of sorts. Thank you for TRUTH and honesty.
This was such a beautiful conversation. Thank you so much for having her on.
I read her book some years ago. It's a wonderful book; well reasoned, beautifully written, articulate and compassionate
Such a wonderful, filled with love and compassion lady! I would love to read her book some day!!! This conversation was really interesting, thank you so much for giving her a platform!
I heard Lierre on a podcast years ago. I’ve often wondered if she had regained her health. Her voice is strong. I hope to heat of it in this. I’m glad to hear her again!
Thank you for this very special interview! I’m looking forward to reading Lierre’s book! I have to add, you guys have changed my mind on my burial. I will plan on having my body put in a pine box, no chemicals put into me, to give back to Mother Nature. This gives me such peace about everything. ❤
I came t that same realization 😊
I've been WFPB vegan for 10+ years and my health has improved a great deal. My Sister and I went WFPB no animal products for health reasons as she has MS. This way of eating has improved her health and I went vegan WFPB to support her and now I can't imagine going back to eating animal products. I see so many people around me that eat animal products that have so many health issues.
Because they eat sugar
After experiencing both plant-based and carnivore diets, I mostly believe now that it really depends on how these people do the diets and the quality of their food. Some say "I did the diet right and healthy" but there are some issues with what's considered 'healthy' on a vegan diet (or any diet). And even then, it's extremely common for people to overlook or underlook things that could be a problem in their diet. Especially since we don't prepare food properly in the u.s. and certain other countries 😩 (like foods with anti-nutrients). Also I talked with someone who use to always get yeast infections, they said their yeast infections went away when they went vegan, even though they eat lots of fruit. So there was something causing those infections that had nothing to do with carbs. Not saying that carbs aren't an issue for many, many people do need a break from them to heal. But if the issue comes back every time you try to eat one piece of fruit then the root cause hasn't been addressed, and understandably some people would just stay carnivore since it works for them. I've also noticed carb addiction being a big reason why carnivore works for people (ending their cravings), and I can say that my cravings didn't go away on carnivore. My cravings didn't get better until I gradually introduced fermented sauerkraut and took probiotics. I believe there's a serious bacterial imbalance issue behind all of this. I was fine on plant-based until I was prescribed antibiotics and developed PTSD around the same time :/ that dangerous combo wiped out much of my bacteria and thus the ability to digest food properly
That is confirmation bias. I see sick vegans too. Over consumption of heavily processed food and toxins is the real problem.
It scares me that your sister is a vegan with MS. The myelin sheath needs saturated animal fat in order to regenerate
Same. Plant based with fish for me.
This was so good and informative. I’ve felt an internal knowing for a couple months that I need to return to eating meat. I’ve been vegetarian for well over 10 years. And I’ve had health issues but I never connected it with me being vegetarian. My health has gotten worse over the past few months and I knew it was time. I ate chicken last night for dinner, and eggs and turkey bacon this morning for breakfast. And I have to say.. I actually do feel better.
We were vegan for almost a year and I can look back now and see how malnourished we were
Constantly hungry and agitated simply because we were eating too many carbohydrates and crashing all day chasing the dragon with granola bars and fruit
just saw a Burgers Smokehouse ad their dry cured bacon looks Amazing !
Peter must not have been satisfied with his question being answered here. He had to go spam the live Monday tonight. Dr. Berry did a great job answering this question here.
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Thank you soooooooo much for giving me the tools I need to educate my children! I've been ketovore for several months. My 8 year old has been telling me she wants to be vegan because of something she saw on social media while watching with a friend. She doesn't want to the animals to die but showing her how much more kind it is to eat the one animal at a time vs the grain that came from a corn field that destroyed many animals will help.
Have a Vegan friend at Ymca. He is over 60 and looks 80 with bad skin and joint pain. He was not feeling right sounds idiopathic, and visited a " alternative " doctor. Diagnosed with poor protein metabolism and prescribed "supplements ". When I suggested he eat meat he told me was taking bee pollen a "complete protein". ???? In his case vegan has cognitive dissonance. This guy used to be a marathon runner now a walker. The end will not be pretty. Good podcast. 🙏🏻👹🏊♀️🏋🏻
Plants are slow poisoning him and soon he'll become their food source..
Oh well, circle of life
I’m surprised the dental industry have no stronger message publicly to emphasize how much sugar is destroying children’s teeth! My brother in law is a dentist and actually calls teenagers as having Mountain Dew Mouth. Full of cavities. I’m a medical coder and code also for the dental side. It’s so sad to see 5 and 6 year olds having teeth extracted already due to nothing but a sugar diet! Or they all have to have silver caps!
They did message that when I was a little kid, but when the first official Dietary Guidelines were published in 1980 that disappeared. No one is allowed to recommend anything outside of the guidelines without getting into trouble. I hadn't thought about it, but of course that would include dentists. And kids never got non-alcoholic fatty liver disease 40 yrs ago, now it's a rising epidemic. What a mess.
This reminds me of Westin A Price who showed that nourishing, traditional animal based diets diminish violence, and creat more compassionate people and cohesive groups.
What a beautiful conversation. I was vegan back in 2013 for 3 years and I suffered a lot of different issues. Bloating, blood sugar problems, weight gain, hormonal problems, bad skin etc. I am on a diet with a lot of animal food in a very good quality ( I live in Bavaria and we have amazing local farmers here) and I am in my best health and shape. My vegan friends on the other side don't have a healthy appearance to be honest.
Re: Peter Cunnington's "question" about eating dog - for most people in this country, dogs are family. So no, most of us wouldn't eat dog, or cat, nor any pet companion. He may as well have asked if cannibalism is a good protein source (well perhaps it is, but the question totally misses the point). Another problem with this "question" is that's it's an appeal to emotion: not only is it offensive to attempt to shame others for their eating choices, it is illogical (as are some cultural taboos against eating pork, seafood, whatever). It is intended to provoke extreme emotions and disgust to the exclusion of rational thinking. Ridiculous!
Thank you for exposing the logical fallacy of his question.
How about culture that actually eat dogs? They do exist and it's normal for them.