With all due respect, as a proud Canadian....When it comes to Canadian bias.....we have none currently in the world of F1. Lance Stroll sucks to us just as much as he sucks to all of you.
Usually I always am an enthusiastic fan of all Canadian drivers.....but Lance has never struck me as anything to root for. I am just glad unlike his F2 years where he hit everything but a pace car he is somewhat competent on occasion
@@FonikosGazmas its really not a close fight max has to beat lando in 1 race just finish ahead of him at any of the three races and he clinches. if he finishes 6th at vegas he clinches so it not really a close race
Herbert made a number of very strange comments between Mexico and Brazil that were completely unprofessional as a referee of the sport. Things like "Lando always wants to race cleanly but Max gets into these awful headspaces" and "Lando has proven he can fight Max in 2025." He's forgotten that he's no longer a Sky pundit and cannot separate this from his job. He needs to be removed as a steward in the interest of having impartial standards.
I do think this whole bias thing is getting ridiculous. BUT. Totally agree that F1 stewards should not be offering ANY opinions on drivers. Full stop. F1 Steward positions need to be fully paid professional positions. There should be a panel of say 10 srewards. The race director then nominates 2 or 3 of those Stewards for each race. Oh. And they can't be all of the same nationality. Perhaps the motor racing bodies of each nation can nominate a steward to be on the panel.
because max is a complete tosser and one hell of a dangerous driver. his method of overtake is divebomb in a way where both cars cannot possibly get through. the driver hes divebombing either gets the hell out of the way (knowing the verstappen bias) or verstappen takes them both out. hes a f'ing clown. and he does it *every. single. race.* hes yet another douchebag sim driver and its leaking through into his real life race career. needs to be told one or the other. go back to puter games, or grow the f up and stop putting people in danger.
He's not a professional steward, and has now official FIA role outside of his inclusion in the 2024 list of stewards. Unless he's officiating a race, then his comments are his own - and he is free to have and air opinions - you think his opinions would be different if he kept schtum? You think every other steward has no opinions on drivers, their personalities, and their styles? Fundamentally, do you disagree with his opinion you cited above? As a fan of F1, and Max, I 100% agree with what he - and almost everyone else - said. Is it wise? Possibly not - and perhaps why SKY binned him off as they were scared of monsters under the bed. But then again, JH, gives about as many shits as Jos V.
@@privateinformation2960 I don't entirely disagree but I find it funny how so many people scold Max for his dangerous driving yet call former champions with the same qualities the greatest of all time. In the future Max will probably be praised in the same way, the hate seems to fade over time after they retire and their achievements are only remembered in numbers and a handful of examples in which they show their raw speed
Remember, when Vettel was winning with a car marginally better than the other top cars on the grid, it was all the car. When Lewis was dominating in a car over a second faster in Qualyfying, it was his godgiven British talent and the bad weather in the UK, making him a great rain driver.
@@brabhamF1 No, Vettel's RB car was all conquering. Alonso made it look less and Seb couldn't match the talent. Lewis is not better than George (Spa'24)
Herbett said about Max that he had a horrible mindset. You don`t say that as a steward, it has nothing to do with facts, it is just his bias against Max.
When Rosberg was beating Hamilton in 2016, in every single Sky Sports UK interview, all they did was ask Nico about Lewis and not about himself and what he achieved. It was quite sad and pathetic really.
and that’s before they started parroting conspiracy theories about Mercedes sabotaging Lewis with swapping mechanics and deliberately making his car break down.
@@benjicool2808 no way. Brundle and co were so far up LH arse they couldn’t see the sun from the moon. They had gotten used to having a British F1 champion the two years previously and knew that the Mercedes was a dominant car uncontested.
15:49 There is NEVER any Dutch media in the FIA or F1 Press Conferences outside Europe. ViaPlay holds the F1 streaming rights here, and the only Dutch people they send are in the driver interview panel while this presser is going on. So that's why you won't ever really see Dutch media in press conferences, unless the race is close like Zandvoort, Spa and maybe Silverstone.
They used to be there, but they had to cut costs since they nearly went bankrupt after buying the rights to F1 and it not being the success they hoped it would be. I'll leave the reasons for that lack of success out of this. So to cut costs it was decided the commentary team and others would not be flown out to races anymore, unlike most other commentary teams. And only a bare bones staff would be flown out, just enough to do the interviews in the pen.
@@azapro911 its just funny that what we consider a brake check, typically involving braking out of nowhere and someone having to take evasive action to avoid a collision, in f1 that same definition is somehow also applied to the wake or dirty air of the car in front. lets get real. alonso is no slouching idiot behind the wheel. he knew that he wanted to give george dirty air through that turn but the discussion i suppose starts there. should alonso have been allowed to do that? he didn't put his physical car in the path of russell by braking early, rather he put his dirty air in russell's path.
While Sky uk are, obviously, a British broadcaster, their feed is used in the us, australia, most of the pacific, and parts of asia. To add insult to injury in a lot of those places, f1 tv isn’t available. At least give us options.
same here in Ireland. I would switch to F1TV in a heartbeat if it were available here. I'm honestly considering a vpn just to get F1TV and not have to tune in to Sky anymore
P1 said it right, acting steward should not share biased pre-judgemental opinions about drivers to sole press groups. Having this Herbert with the son of the founder of mcclaren as steward in Mexico handing out penalties to Max isnt plain neutral anymore especialy with all different "interpretations". I think Max comment at the press was a joke, but lets not forget british press did before grilled him in the post race interviews when he got penalties. So apparently they do choose with their feet when to show up. If Max was british and raced like brazil, be sure the room would have been full of british press. I mean some press teams have 10 men on location. Your telling me none would go? Good video for the rest, love the work.
None of that matters. These guys are volunteers, they are not paid to be stewards. If F1 wants official stewards then they should cough up the money. None of Herbert’s stewarding on Max was incorrect. And that’s the only thing that matters. In Austin Max fans said Max exploits the rules. Well the rulebook is what did him in Mexico and Brazil.
A fact of motor racing is that it’s virtually impossible to have qualified stewards that lack any former affiliation to racing teams, Herbert for instance used to drive for jaguar, does that mean that he would be biased towards modern day Red Bull? You could find any perceived bias if you look hard enough
@@paperplane-db8qf We are talking about pro-British which is obvious, while there is undeniably also an anti-Max bias. That's why I said, get rid of the stewards altogether, apply the rules to the letter, always, for every driver and every lap. Even an AI could take better and more consistent decisions that the stewards.
Bet you didn't mind Honda's Derek Warwick blatantly giving Verstappen preferential treatment at COTA, he overtook Sainz (who got to the apex line first) from off the track and received no penalty.
If you paint a person as a villain people start to see him as a villain no matter how nice or what for person you are. Tbh i started watching because max takes so many risks to win and he is the most entertaining person on the grid.
"If you paint a person as a villain people start to see him as a villain" is a weird quote when the past decade of F1 social media has just been painting anyone unlucky enough to be born on this shitty island as a villain because BrItIsH BiAs
When I was introduced to F1, I was already questioning why they hate Max so much because he's actually a nice and sweet guy. So what if he's aggressive on track and he gets mad (just like any driver)? It's entertaining and it does not define him as a person. I personally like aggressive driving done right like how Max and Fernando does it, just like how Senna and Schumacher did before. That is racing, not a car parade.
True, this has been going on for years already. Max didnt put a foot wrong in 18-20 and 22-23 and still the media reminded everybody almost every race that Max is a 'dirty driver'.
Norris - Unsanctioned restart in 🇧🇷 - Fined €5,000 Mercedes - Tire pressure shenanigans in 🇧🇷 - Fined $10,000 (€5,000 per car) Tsunoda - Late for the pre-race national anthem in 🇨🇦 - Fined €10,000 Lecleck & Max - Community service and $10 000 fine for saying F@ck Max - $50 000 fine for touching Hamilton rear wing after a race !!! ENOUGH SAID !!!
You're mainly talking about the last 3 races, but this problem has been going on for way longer. Schumacher, Vettel, Alonso, Rosberg, Verstappen, they've all been portrayed as villains in their title fights against British drivers. And let's not forget the weekend Red Bull boycotted Sky, after "Mr T" said Max couldn't win championships in a normal way and how Hamilton was robbed. You'd think they'd stand still and reflect if there is bias, but nope, there is no bias and they just keep doing what they've always been doing. And sure, Dutch media is biased, just like the Spanish, German and Italian too. But they're not the ones getting hired by the biggest F1 broadcasters like F1TV or SkySports F1. Even F1TV has had very questionable moments, especially when it comes to people like Buxton. Also, much of the blame gets redirected to social media. And while there are some incredibly unhinged people on social media, when you're a presenter or reporter you can't just say anything and expect no response. Especially when you're a steward that has openly been against a certain driver and then say you don't bring any bias into the stewarding room.
So basically they're all as biased as each other but the British media gets more coverage because English is more of a lingua franca than other languages
@@matthewthomas2546 i have a good amount of watchtime on the dutch, german and english broadcasts and the amount of bias in the dutch and german ones are nothing compared to the english. the british have not only far more cases of bias but they are on average far more extreme in that bias.
@@joeyboli you seem to miss the point, If you work overseas, travel internationally what broadcast will you MOSTLY be exposed to ? THE ENGLISH ! An American company owns a majority in F1 and guess what Americans still see only see British media Broadcast ...they use Skysports (British media) on espn etc. The Brith have a monopoly on F1 media and how they portray anyone in F1 , staff Drivers including TEAMS like red bull and how evil and corrupt they are pushed and stared by British Media .
Them giving a fine to lando for the aborted start is so insane. There were marshalls working on the track. He could have endangered them if for example he had a brake or talent failure at that corner.
$5k penalty for Norris' false start, $10k for Leclerc's swearing, and $50k for max and vettel because they touched Merc's rear wing. Make it make sense.
@@quietbatperson did Sainz risk marshals and tractor operator that could potentially still be on the track? Those factors coupled with wet track were what caused Bianchi's fatal accident in 2014. The green light hasn't flashed green when Norris restarted which meant that the track was not completely safe, rules are rules, period. Now you can argue that by the time the cars passed the accident spot, there were no longer any marshals on the track (Edit: confirmed by Kym Illman that in fact they WERE STILL ON TRACK when norris passed). However, FIA has always enforced penalties in the premise of "action not consequences", yet they throw this out of the window for this one time. Put it either way, getting fined 2x amount of this infringement over swearing is ridiculous.
@metalpiston1212 Did Sainz break the same procedure as Norris or not? Simple yes or no question. The answer is 'yes'. So surely Sainz should have been penalised? Why was a Ferrari driver not penalised for breaking the rules in Monza?
I have no idea why you’re still crying about this. It wasn’t a breach by the rule books. Maybe they should change the rules to make this a penalizable offense in the future. But stewards don’t make up new rules during the race.
I mean yeaa. In 2016 Joylon Palmer was named the driver of the race in some British articles for finishing 11th on his debut while in the same race Grojean finished 6th on Haas's debut. And there's more examples. So as a british citezen they are bias. Discuss.
@@thomasblack33Bloody oath it was! That Renault was just the Lotus of the previous year jerryrigged to fit the 2016 regs and a Renault engine in the back…
The driver of the day voting in Australia 2016 was a mess all around. I believe Haryanto initially won that vote. You can’t use that as an indication of bias. Verstappen literally has the most driver of the days of any driver. And one of those was Austin 2016; even less deserved than Haryanto in Australia
Herbert wrote it on the wall in big ass letters when he didnt penalize Lando for the giant cock up at the start the rules are very clear that this was a major penalty. Then to turn around not penalize him and go on to write a note that this isnt the president but an exception and that it shouldn't be expected for anyone else. That it plain BIAS.
Ppl have been disqualified for such an offence (driving on a closed track) before lol, altho not in f1.... but sure lets just give him a pat on the back and 5k fine 😂
And literally they wrote "this penalty should not be used as further precedence" which is plainly illegal. Imagine a judge saying "Well the defendant is guilty but for my personal reasons I can't punish him but this is not a precedence though others must be punished for the same crime". I mean THE FUCK? How is this even allowed?
@@sanjay_swain i mean, f1 has been dealing with incredibly inconsistent stewarding anyways. the solution is to have a set designated group of stewards going around the globe or one set for each continent. there's many instances of these inconsistencies like verstappen not getting a penalty for brazil 2021 but did get one for a very similar repeat in mexico just this year.
@@scottb9868 the rules aren't clear that it's a major penalty. Sainz did the exact same thing in Monza and didn't even get fined. I don't see any British conspiracy in that, just incompetence from the stewards
What I think is often missed about the bias of the British press is their demeanor. Yes, everyone is biased, but I get the sense that the British press are the only ones swearing up and down that they're not biased, and to even suggest so is an outrage. I'm guessing you won't see Mexian media claim that their depiction of Liam Lawson with devil's horns is some sort of honest appraisal of his driving talent. I guess a good way to describe the modus operandi of the British press is as "concern trolling". When someone runs their favourite driver off the road, it isn't just a dirty move, it is A Threat To The Very Fabric Of Motor Racing.
Sorry but I'm not sure you will find an unbiased feed unless its made up of people with zero connection to the sport and who have absolutely no connection to the teams or drivers. This isn't an F1 thing it's a thing in every sport. The only way around it would be to have every country in the world that broadcasts F1 to have their own local commentary team that can be as biased or unbiased as the want based on their personal connections and feelings
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN it aint no reason my guy. You SPECIFICALLY aren't being shat on, but the attitude and control of f1 absolutely is. And its more than just the broadcasting.
We should indeed give the stewards some slack, but appointing Herbert after his history of being critical about Max, especially in this stage of the season, was a bad choice by the FIA. Also, nice how you ‘forgot’ to mention that Mercedes weren’t really punished (a fine is hardly punishment!) for altering tire pressure on the grid, which is EXPLICITLY forbidden in the rules. Can you wholeheartedly say that RBR would have gotten away with ‘just’ a fine if they would have been the perpetrator?
Merc changing tyre pressures was entirely legal. The only illegal thing they did was not taking the wheels off the car beforehand. I therefore consider this more of a procedural breach rather than a sporting infringement so a fine is sufficient.
@@jasoncp3257lol typical of people to complain when things don't go their way or get called out but when they step over the line or get away with things they shrug it off..I mean fia helped max in 21 ADHabi (I think it wqs abkut money) also rmb in austin how perez had a broken front wing and wqs able to do 10 laps then the piece fell off but in that same race hulkenberg had the same issue but wqs told by the fia to come in immediately into the pits...fia only consistent abkut inconsistency.
apparently they didn't actually change the tyre pressures, they were trying to but didn't manage it in time - that's what russell said after the race at least. if true, I guess that's why there was no penalty.
Another thing that bothers me is that sometimes the rules instantly come into question when they benefit Max. I'm not sure if some of these regulations have been regarded as problematic before, but here are some examples: 1. Banning the point for fastest lap after Ricciardo took a point from Lando at the Singapore GP. 2. The rules of being allowed to push someone wide when being ahead at the apex coming into question after Max uses them to his advantage at the US GP. (I agree it's a stupid rule BTW, just weird that it is that way and only got questioned after that race) 3. Media questioning the free pit-stop under the red flag after the Brazilian GP. The last one I find especially dumb if you think 10 seconds about it. Imagine if Max would NOT be allowed to change his tyres under the red flag. He would be forced to go out on his old tyres in a race that had been neutralized. After the pitstop it would put him all the way at the back of the grid. Obviously it would be way more dangerous and unfair to not change tyres under a red flag, so why question the rule?
@@Dwerg great points. Imagine waving a red flag on a dry race just before a rain starts, and then the cars need to restart on wet tracks on old slicks. I'm pretty sure this scenario is the valid reason why tyre-change under red flag was allowed in the first place.
1: Fastest lap point has always been seen as an annoying gimmick by a lot of fans. 2: It only got questioned then because Verstappen is the one who primarily does it and judging from the drivers' reactions afterwards they clearly don't like it either. 3: Everyone absolutely hated the free pitstop under red flag rule in Monaco earlier this year, Brazil simply brought the discussion back into the limelight.
@@lukew6725 agree with number 2. But the fact that 1&3 have been brought right after it was beneficial for Max is peculiar. Especially because they happen to disadvantage McLaren in the contrary, specifically, at the same occasions.
@@Dwerg it never used to be an issue because races were never used to be red flagged. Simple solution, stop red flagging the race when it isn't necessary.
I think a lot of the fuel for the bias talk post Interlagos was that we've seen drivers in F1 immediately disqualified for entering a closed racetrack without race control's consent. We also saw Doriane Pin given an immediate 20s penalty for doing the same thing at the F1 Academy race in Jeddah earlier this season. For the FIA not to clamp down on a safety regulation like that, going against their own precedent, looks highly suspect, although I don't think it has anything to do with Herbert and Warwick being British, and everything to do with keeping the show alive, because no one is tuning into Abu Dhabi or Losail if the titles are wrapped up by then. We've seen sketchy decisions from stewards and the FIA when they want to keep the title race going, like the infamous Massa/Alonso impedance at Monza that one year.
More annoying than press, which I can ignore, is bias in TV coverage Some drivers are barely seen in a race in favor of showing lap after lap of someone 'more favored' even if they are making no ground and are out of the points
Brit here, and bias definitely exits. Even my dad, a Proud British Bias man, is starting to become annoyed with Sky's bias towards the brits. Just give us informed commentary, not wha wha cry cry norris is not winning (in arguably the best car) cos max is c H e ATi Ng. its exhausting. (oh, and great video, Josh! Always a pleasure to watch.)
9:02 They brought out the Red Flag because someone _did_ drown: Colapinto by aquaplaning into the wall. To be fair, Williams did nothing but crash that day, so not suprised you forgot about that.
Craziest thing is he aquaplaned during a sc, which means he drove at 50% of his max pace. It’s honestly unsafe and ridiculous the red flag wasn’t called before. I’m glad this joke of a race director was fired. Compromised safety on all fronts just to get the title fight for the drivers closer again.
I'm from South africa and we have 'Supersport' as a sports channel but the only F1 commentary we get is sky f1 for some reason and we dont have another , it is so annoying how little to almost no attention is given to drivers that are no british , Hamilton or Russell or Norris could be overtaking a bloody haas for P12 and crofty will scream and you'd swear it's for the lead of the race , it also crazy how unenthusiastic they get when a British is not leading a gp , in Monza when Charles won I'll never foget they barely mentioned him and talked about how Norris can get back into the race , What Norris should've done in the start , how he should handle the race , even in Austin and in Mexico , I mean the british press not attending the conference after Brazil confirmed everything for me 🤷♂️
It's almost as if you've never listened to the same Sky F1 that i do with this comment. I watch the Sky feed all thr time and to my experience. That's just not true. And I'm not British by the way.
So how expensive would it be for Supersport to pay for a local presenter to provide live race commentary? The reality is it’s not Skys fault if your local broadcaster is too tight to support their local subscribers.
12:40 Herbert: "I wasn't the only one why thought Max was over the top in Mexico. Norris and Brown did so too." That's like Masi after AD21 saying, "There was nothing wrong with the restart after the safetycar, and I'm not the only one who thinks that. Verstappen and Horner agreed."😂😂😂
The man clearly is not too bright. He also said that he was entitled to give his opinion on drivers because Martin Brundle does it too... completely missing the point that Brundle is in fact there as a journalist/pundit, and is in no position to influence the race. It's shocking that he doesn't see the difference. An FIA official, let alone a steward, should not comment on the driving style and mentality of the contestants. Period. Not to mention the fact that someone who can influence the outcome of races and championships is also being paid by a betting company... how is that possible??
Alonso's was the most blatant case of British bias and no one noticed it when the reporters kept asking him "Are you expecting your teammate to gift you the win?"
@@Kuromori-v9z don't forget Alonso called out Herbert's resentment towards non-british drivers way back in Australia (after his collision with Russel that caused him harsh penalty). He was always right.
@@Kuromori-v9z if you're talking about the "Fernando is faster than you" incident, they were on his case because it was a blatant team order in a season where they were BANNED. Framing it as the British media hounding him instead of a team breaking the rules and Fernando benefitting from it (which funnily enough happened at the 2008 Singapore GP, weird how that kept happening) is so biased as to be unreal. Any journalist would be crazy not to challenge Fernando on that situation. He's not allowed to escape scrutiny just because the people asking the questions are British
You can say that for every country specific broadcast. Sky Italia see Charles as the second coming of Jesus, and Viaplay see Max as their idol. The thing is that Sky UK is the international broadcast, they have a deal with ESPN in the US, and other broadcasters around the world due to being an English speaking channel. They have to be somewhat neutral. Crofty and Brundle can have their favorites, everyone has the right to have a favorite, but they have to be neutral when speaking to the general public, they can't let it cloud their judgement.
I agree, I hate as an Aussie having to hear the lando talk like he is the next coming of Jesus when Oscar has proven all year he is nearly as good or even better than lando yet all I hear is British media go on about lando
But Sky are 'somewhat neutral' compared to most national broadcasters (and I'm saying this when I don't even like Sky). The reality is they're also *the* British national broadcaster so they're also gonna interpret it in a British way (as all other broadcasters do vis a vis they're own countries). Don't like it? Tough shit. Lobby for your own broadcaster to do international F1 coverage. I don't see why British coverage has to be more whiter than white than the rest (which is often much worse in that regard).
@@Krausty I had a Dutch girlfriend for years and used to go to the Netherlands all the time. I was learning Dutch while we were together. But that's beside the point. International broadcasts are always going to be in English. If you want another to take over from Sky go for it.
@lordracer7743 bruh that series he won was very controversial as his car had been shown to be different and better than other cars in A SPEC SERIES where all the cars are meant to be the same
The drive of Lando during the aborted start should have been penalized much more severely as marshals were on the track. Here British bias could have helped him
2:08 Literally postponed going to the hospital in 2019 so that I could see Hockenheim in the wet and it was worth it. Nothing stops me from watching a wet race lol.
the thing with for instance sky sport, they kept talking a long time about the thing that allows height adjustment, and of course mexico, they ignored everything about the Rear wing that had a mini DRS! How it was found to be illigal to use after that race in Baku! Yet they didn't cover anything about that. I think when we say british bias it is more sky sport and their commentators. The flag situations in brasil were..... sus timing though And Max remarks at the press, just jokes and the british dudes just reacted so sad hahaha. And dutch media isn't that big soooo duh
Why would they be talking about a rear wing that wasn't in use though, and wasn't found to be illegal? As for the long waits for obvious VSC/Safety Cars/red flags, thats been a problem with Wittich from the start, Coulthard was criticising exactly that in commentary last year.
@@andrewcarter9649 tf do you mean? it was in use in Baku... it was there, mclaren said they removed it for fairness or something, while FIA said, if you use it AGAIN it will be found illigal, because from a technical stand point that rear wing is illigal.
@@andrewcarter9649because they do the same for Verstappen. On the final lap of Brazil, they were talking about Mexico. They were talking about Austria (which wasn't even Max's fault completely) while he was cooking on hards in Silverstone. They went on and on and on about the sim racing in Hungary. Those three races also happen to be 3 enormous Norris (and Mclaren) bottles. Meanwhile, Mclaren had a flexi wing on the car which was quite obviously against the spirit of the regulations (hence being outlawed later), and it got the same amount of attention by Sky as Bottas getting P18 instead of P19.
Some great points. Some solutions; 1. For the sky international broadcast, have some former drivers and current commentators that's ARENT from the UK (Nico doesn't count) 2. Don't have people that have been openly critical of certain drivers enforcing rules (Herbert) or the son of a founding F1 team (Meyers, son of one of founders of McLaren). Seems a little logical I totally understand having media for a UK broadcast, be biased towards those drivers. But for international broadcasting, it should be different. As far as the rules and stewards go. Aren't there plenty of former international drivers that could also be part of this process? I mean there are some drivers who haven't even driven F1 that are part of this, which should make it even easier
As a proud italian living abroad, I am aware of the many things going on internationally with F1, and I have to say that, when looking at Sky Italia, I can say that yes, they do have a bit of bias. During the races, they will always have one eye pointed on Leclerc even if he is out of the points. This is though because of the italian viewers not really being interested in F1 other than because of Ferrari, and mainly Charles. That however doesn't stop them from properly reacting to the other battles. The "bias" in Italian commentators is just an extra attention to the Ferraris and how they are running, to keep the Italian spectators entertained. Many times they have even gone against Ferrari, for poor strategy or for bad misconduct, they keep it professional while sharing the passion for Ferrari. Having listened to the Spanish commentary, I can say that they do the same thing as the Italians, just with Alonso and Sainz, although they do tend to show a bit more bias when things get heated, but that is acceptable I guess. Now, the british media have way more bias than any of the ones above, going to the extremes to defend their drivers. This I guess would be just an example of a commentator doing things in the best interest of fans, but unfortunately, because the british media is the only things f1 fans in other countries are able to watch, the level of bias is unacceptable for the other parts of the world.
As a Spaniard, the trio of Lobato, De La Rosa amd Toni is very good. They have bias, yes, but when they tallk about the rest of the grid they donit pretty well. Unlike some 🇬🇧
Same with the german broadcast. Extra attention for Hulk, before that Mick, nothing else. Also with Vettel and Schumacher. Ralf Schumacher (Sky Germany) was a bit soft on Mick if im honest, but also never backed out of giving him crap for doing an obvious mistake. That not only the same nationality, its the same FAMILY. No excuses or unneeded praise, no villainization of driver of another country/the championship rival - which is very much what the brits do at every single turn, without fail or hesitation. Fernando Alonso was highly spoken of in german TV, Räikkönen was praised, Montoya was often applauded for how rapid he was, Hamilton still gets praised, Lando was often praised this season and Verstappen over the last years too (And hes dutch; Germany has very much has a sporting rivalry with the Netherlands//all the people mentioned were Championship rivals, and partly even winners over our guys) The take here in the comments that the british media is just doing what everyone else is doing is completely ignorant and hilariously wrong. Its also proves that they dont speak another language.
@@LiftandCoathe end of the video literally gives examples of other media being just as (if not more so) biased as British media. Imagine if Sky created an imagine of Max with devil horns-people would be foaming at the mouth-but because it’s Mexican tv with Liam Lawson nobody cares. I’m also old enough to remember Spanish media’s treatment of Hamilton when he was up against Alonso In 2007-08. La Marca once ran a headline “this is the only way he can win” after Hamilton won a race due to an Alonso grid penalty, and Spanish fans showing up in blackface to races was largely swept aside by Spanish media. More recently, you’ve have Spanish commentary saying “this will be good for Sainz” when Leclerc crashed out, and Dutch commentary calling Hamilton a “sucker” and saying “toodles” when he went off track in Baku 2021. I think we’re at the point where people are so obsessed with “British bias” and ready to get angry that they actively look for anything a British commentator says that indicates a slight preference for a British driver, but are quite happy to disregard anything from any other media. Confirmation bias, really.
They're so much biased towards alonso that amazes me, they wouldn't care about what's happening at the front between the Ferraris, redbulls or mclarens and just give some anecdots about Alonso, his team and other latinoamerican drivers that might happen to compete for a p15 in the meantime@@ok-___okokokokoko7661
I do think Herbert should not be a steward. Finally one thing I agree with Jos Verstappen about. He's a pundit, that's fine. Be biased all you want, I love that. A steward as well, no. They're supposed to be neutral. He's the quintessential Tory, looking out for number one and seeing nothing wrong with that. Alan Rickman as Judge Turpin in Sweeny Todd all over again.
8:06 forgot (/j) to mention the crowd shouting "Drugovich" and laughing/shouting "Burro" ("Dunce" in tupiniquim language in this context) on the absolute shitshow that Sir Lancelot did.
Well it has to be one of Rose Matafeo, Jacinda Ardern, Greg Murphy or Crowded House as those are the only New Zealanders I can think of off the top of my head.
For me my frustration with the Bias came to a head recently was when the enthusiasm for Carlos Sainz' win at the Mexico GP was lukewarm. Like come on dudes! Guy had a phenomenal drive and you guys don't praise him? Its not solely a British Motorsport anymore. Its an International Motorsport with drivers from around the world with the talent to drive some intense machinery. Treat them all with the respect whenever they regardless where they come from you know?
You know, it always strikes me that the front runner in a race doesn't get a lot of attention unless he's in a battle. The cameras follow the battles. So the "best driver in the best car" doesn't get that much airtime. I think Saenz in one of the top two or three most liked drivers in the UK. Modest, great at times, not too whiny, a little bit of a scrappy underdog, and losing his place not very deservedly at Ferrari. People in the UK love a Saenz win.
its never been a British motorsport. only recently has british drivers been any good with hamilton and norris. historically there havent been very many (there have been a few but not many)
Glad to hear you big up Alex Jacques’ commentary. He, David Coulthard and Mark Webber are about as good as it gets. It’s criminal that their commentary isn’t available to us in the UK.
Enlighten us. How do you solve this bias you speak of? And remember, your response must be unbiased, and I'm the one who'll judge if your response is unbiassed or not.
@sbGOM F1 tv is well regarded as an objective, unbiased, and frankly far more interesting media in respect to Sky F1. It's literally just a question of finding: who can put their bias aside, not shit on Max for every little thing he does (as far as I know they kept bringing up the fact that he stayed on his sim) and act like a fucking commentator instead of a hooligan? The answer is literally right there. F1 TV instead of F1 sky sport. This video was way more about finding excuses than actually addressing a (pretty clear) problem
I don’t think you need to be a top driver to be a top commentator. But when tears are in your eyes from sadness after just watching one of the greatest drives ever, you just don’t love the sport.
Lmaoooo love that my two fave kiwi f1 uoutubers basically made the same video in the space of the week right down to talking about unconscious bias. Kind of uncanny
this also happened in Australia. Alonso was given a 20 second penalty, demoting him to p13, for "break testing" George Russel. And who was the steward: Johnny Herbert
9:35 That’s a bit much for Colapinto. He was begging the team for wets (the correct call) and they refused to give them to him. He crashed on a straight section of road after he hit a literal river crossing the track on cold inters.
What's with the Argentinian bias towards Colapinto, in Brazil there were loads of Argentinian fans cheering for Colapinto but not one of them was cheering for Verstappen. Why were there no Argentinian journalists in the press conference! In case you couldn't tell I'm being sarcastic. 🤌😂
@@danielhale2080the difference is the British broadcast the sport to the English speaking world and have a bunch of stewards and officials in the sport. In Australia, F1TV is made unavailable and I'm forced to watch SkyF1. David Crofty one of the biggest wankers in the sport.
@@danielhale2080 but they aren't a British broadcaster, they are broadcasting to the English speaking world and the rest of the world are forced to watch it. I wouldn't care if we had our own broadcast free from Sky F1.
@@Lewythefly get a grip, you aren't forced to watch F1. This is a new phenomena since Russell and Norris got into competitive cars. There was no talk of British bias when it was just Hamilton. Maybe it's just a perception of bias because there are proportionately more British drivers on the grid who happen to be quite good and are at the front, so naturally they will be talked about more. Just a thought, but if you don't like the service don't use it. No one is making you use it.
In international footbal matches we make sure that the referees are of another nationality than that of the two competing nations...... maybe we can come up with something vagely similar for F1 race stewarts?
It is a bit irritating, but not everyone does it equally. Ted, Hill and Herbert seem pretty horrible, but Brundle and Coulthard seem better. And to be fair the Dutch press is even worse, but the difference is that they don't present for an international audience and don't hold much power.
I think you strictly have to distinguish between media and the stewards regarding that bias. The stewards have to be completely impartial, obviously. I'm not a conspiracy theorist and to me, I don't see any British bias there (I'm German). I just don't. Decision can be hard to take, so you always can argue one way or another, but overall they could be explained perfectly without invoking any bias. For example, in COTA, Lando was the one getting the penalty in a close situation, where many people saw Max at fault for overshooting the apex. In Mexico, I think there isn't any discussion that Max was at fault for both incidents. And in Brazil, Lando was the lucky one with a smaller than expected penalty. But the decisions weren't at all ridiculous in either direction.
😂😂😂 stop lying that you are german lmao stop using your fake account brit COTA was under the rules people will see lot of things but Max was still under rules hate the game not the player Mexico first penalty was bullshit give me examples who overtook in that corner in the same exact manner nada no one Norris was given assurances that if he puts his car in that corner Max will be penalized no matter the outcome Lando didnt have any intentions to overtake instead just put his car and watch Max get penalty for defending. F1 academy and F3 gets a penalty for race start infringements but not a british driver so please stfu if you dont comprehend more than 10 words at a time
I appreciate this Sebastian, you seem to be the only one I have read that applied any critical thinking to it instead of circularly starting with the conclusion that the conspiracy is true, like most seem to enjoy doing because they get all emotional about it.
As a British person, we hate the Sky coverage too. There’s bits that were good, but we’ve been begging for it to go back to channel 4 since it changed (ITV has kinda gone to shit in recent times, they had F1 in the 90’s) However, I will say that in terms of bias towards our own countrymen, we are definitely not the worst offenders. If you’re British you know how much drivers like Lewis, Button, Russell and Norris have all been slated in the press at various times. Lewis got it pretty consistently at the beginning of his career, and that isn’t mentioning how other countries media outlets sometimes talk about British drivers. I think the whole British bias thing is a little unfair, as most of the sport is centred around here it’s inevitable that we are going to be over represented. Then there’s the suspect flag calls, which for some reason are being talked about in the same conversation as stewarding. The race director controls the flags, it has nothing to do with stewarding or Herbert. Also many people neglect to mention that he isn’t the only steward and that the other stewards are also ex drivers etc. and are from many other countries. I’m sure there are some people within the sport who are biased, but the way people talk about it, it’s as if there’s some sort of pro-British agenda with everything, which is just simply untrue. Anyway, I was a Schumi fan growing up and although I don’t really support any particular driver or team, I have a soft spot Ferrari and McLaren still from those days. Thought i’d mention my allegiances before people accuse me of being on one side or the other 😅
I was a Schumacher fan too as a Brit and I don't like Russel or Norris. Guilty-by-association of being British is a fallacy called, "association fallacy", and unfortunately it would seem a lot of non-British in these comment sections, just don't have a very high IQ when it comes to critical thinking and logical reasoning. It will be because there is also a lot of haters of the British, which I have noticed a lot. After all Sky are just some money-grabbers, they don't represent the British except as one tiny group of people. I also enjoyed channel 4's coverage until Sky bought them out and now we pretty much only get the British Grandprix live.
@ yeah man, the Sky coverage just doesn’t quite cut it. Yeah I get the vibe we’re like the 2nd most hated, which I find ironic considering all the years of Ferrari International Assistance and all those other periods of the FIA having no preference to French teams and drivers at all lol
I am still concerned about your opinion on the Red Flag after Stroll crashed in qualifying.. yes he was trying to get back to the pits.. but the FIA have footage.. they would have seen that that car was in the wall with a broken wheel.. and didn't Perez get a penalty for driving his broken Red Bull to the pits in Canada? That was a broken rear wing though so i would imagine that trying to do that with 3 wheels would have been an even harder task.. so that red flag came WAY too late.. it is not about if Max made it or not.. but rather safety.. just like the sprint race.. they were driving at racing speed... passed Nico.. who was 3 meters OUT OF THE CAR away from the race track. This didn't only look rigged.. it was unsafe. About the aborted start.. breaching this.. should not and actually.. is NOT a 5000 dollar fine... that should have been either a grid penalty... or what the regulations actually say.. A Drive Through or a straight up Stop and Go Penalty. (A stop and go is different from a normal penalty. You get let's say 10 seconds.. you have to pit and serve it within 3 laps else you will get a black flag) let alone that breaching an aborted start is worth less of a punishment than swearing. This was just a full on shit show from the FIA.
I personally really hate how the FIA works since Charlie Whiting's passing. Just for laughs and giggles, during races, my dad and I are trying to come up with the most absurd ideas, what the FIA could do this time either to benefit the british drivers (or rather just Hamilton or Norris) or just anything else completely idiotic and it's not uncommon that it actually happens afterwards. (if someone wants to mention Abu Dhabi 2021, go look at all the other decisions that season, which instead tried to decide the season in favor of Hamilton.. it's pointless to have this discussion, when it's a single example against dozens or possibly even hundreds) But what I find even more infuriating than the FIA's decisions are the british media. Of course, the italian media are gonna favor Ferrari, german media are gonna favor german drivers and so on, but when there is the official F1 TV meant for a global audience, all the highlights on youtube are from the british commentary and so on, then it's simply not acceptable to have such biased commentators and "experts", like Croft, Brundle or Kravitz. Just to give an example on how ridiculously biased the british commentators are - when Vettel was winning the championship, but it was very close - I believe this was in 2012, Brundle said that the most important person wasn't Vettel, but that it was Adrian Newey, who was the main reason behind the success, even though Webber, the second redbull, wasn't even in the top 5 in the championship and Alonso, on a Ferrari, was just a few points behind Vettel, but Vettel was just way too good then (as a lifelong Ferrari fan I was gutted, but nobody can deny, that prime Vettel was insane good). But when it was Hamilton winning in all those seasons when Mercedes had both cars 20 seconds ahead of everyone else and second place in the championship had more than a 50 point gap in front of third place, all the british commentators were glazing Hamilton so hard I would cringe anytime I'd hear it. Not even mentioning their awful knowledge of the rules and many other aspects of the sport - when I compare it to my local media (Czech + Slovak), it's just insane how incomparable the insight, knowledge and overall overview is. For example now in Brazil, when the start was aborted, the british commentary simply went with what they saw and didn't even realise that there was something wrong, when Norris just went off on a yellow light, while my local commentators immediately picked up on this and explained the rules thoroughly on what happened, why it's wrong, what should've been done and what are the possible outcomes. And this is just one of many examples of the british commentators being completely clueless. Because of what I listed above, I believe that F1 should have different commentators for the global broadcast, youtube highlights and simply all the content not meant for only the british, than they have now (unless the other commentary mentioned in this video as an alternative is actually unbiased, I've never heard it) and maybe keep the current staff for TeamLH. When I paid for F1 TV for a few months, I just had to mute the commentary, because Croft, Brundle and the other guys are just insufferable, especially when I was used to the high quality local commentary and later decided to rather pay 3x the cost of F1 TV just to get back the local commentary. PS: Who remembers the Sky Sports Merry Christmas video from 2021?
@ Okay, then I must’ve missed a way to switch to that, as I always got just the Brundle crap. At least that’s positive, if that commentary is any better, however it still doesn’t change a thing about the youtube highlights and other social media content sadly still being with the awful commentary.
Brundle who freely admits that out of anyone on the grid he'd want a beer with it's Max. Nothing wrong with that, but let's not pretend he's pro British. In Belgium "what about Max Verstappen, he hasn't had a magic carpet ride this year". "That MERCEDES is flying". Not Lewis. Think people see what they want to see and every since the sky boycott they've had red bull and Horner on all the time and hardly say a bad word against them or Max. Always on about Max and went on a gush fest in Brazil. Biggest Max fans are Karun (who's been seen cheering for Max) and Brundle.
Saying "but Dutch/Italian/Spanish/insert country media are biased" is the biggest cop out of the highest order. It's plain whataboutism. An excuse, and it does not negate the fact that there IS British bias in the global coverage of F1, not to mention the conflicts of interest in F1 stewarding. Dutch, Italian, Spanish or whoever aren't the *_the main official EXCLUSIVE global broadcasters for the entire English speaking world._* They aren't the ones who make up the majority of the press corps who go to every race around the world, fill every press conference, make up the majority of every press pen, roam every paddock, ask all the questions and get close access to the teams and personnel. No, it's British media and SkyF1.
Good points well made. Always enjoy your videos. Dont sell yourself short by calling a logical, practical view and opinions that accurately reflect the reality of the situation 'fence-sitting'. Most of the time, I find reality to be somewhere in the middle rather than at one or the other extreme ;)
British bias is not necessarily preferring your own driver. All national media do that. However, a significant portion of the British media tends to portray the opponents of British championship contenders as very evil. It happened to Schumacher, Vettel and Alonso too. The Dutch media is extremely biased towards Verstappen, but they respect a Hamilton or Norris. A part of the British press doesn't. Even in Brazil, several British journalists couldn't praise Verstappen without bringing up Mexico every time. I understand (but don't approve) "fans" doing it, but the media doing that too is a British thing and it is very annoying. As for the steward's decisions, they were kinda weird. Maybe not entirely intentional, but we know FIA wants to keep the tension. And the comments on drivers on commercial platforms are just weird. Tom Bellingham compared it to football, when a referee makes a controversial decision in a World Cup final and then sings the praises of the winning team afterward. That would never happen. It's just not professional and gives it at least the appearance of bias. Yeah, there should be paid, professional stewards, from all over the world. Comment on this video specifically: 1:30 How do you mean messed up? And lives are at stake? That is such an overexaggeration. With those runoffs there was no danger, that is why they were doing it. Yes, Max was by far most at fault. But Lando wasn't even trying to go through those corners cleanly, he braked way too late. If he had done it that the same way without Verstappen there he would have gone off too. Neither of them was racing clean. I am not blaming Lando, I admired it. You need to do that when racing Verstappen. Lando was just doing it smarter, which is why Verstappen got the penalties. That honestly impressed me, I didn't think he had it in him. But then the British press villainizes Verstappen while presenting Lando as a saint, not just after that race, but in Brazil too. That is British bias.
I'm English and live in the Netherlands. There's Dutch bias on the Dutch media for F1, loads of it. The difference is SKY and F1 TV are meant to be the international broadcasters, not the partisan UK broadcaster. They get mixed up in that.
Been watching F1 since the 80's and I have watched it in three different languages. In my experience there's no contest, the British commentators always feel the need to put non-British drivers and teams down. They seem to always build this narrative were Senna or Shumacher or Alonso or Vettel were the antagonists. As a kid I even bought into it for a while. As an adult and with all the choices we have now, if Croft starts getting on my nerves I just switch to another language and it's cool and usually pretty objective and balanced. But not everyone can do that. I'm not saying British commentators should have no opinions or be biased, what I and sooooo many others are saying is this is a Global Sport and they are commentating to the World not just British viewers. The Spanish feed in ESPN is very good and incredibly balanced, it can be done!
I don’t think it’s a so called “British bias” necessarily. More a popularity bias. It seems like SkySportsF1 hero-worship Lewis and Lando but seem happy to criticise George for every little detail. For Lewis, I can understand it. He’s a 7x WDC. But with Lando he’s not better than George. And yet they seem to act like Lando is one of the greatest drivers of all time.
Lando has shown me how great a driver Hamilton actually is. Not that I didn't know that before, but Lewis in that McLaren would've had at least 5-6 wins this year no question. Which makes it that more annoying that they build up a title fight that doesn't exist.
@@ImRivendill Not just Lewis, but George too. He’s been incredible this season. Either one of them would have multiple wins, potentially would be leading the championship in that McLaren.
@ Russell didn’t just win. He absolutely decimated Norris. In F2, George won by 68 points with seven wins to Lando’s one win (at the first race of the season). Norris was closer to 5th than to Russell in 1st. 😬 Also Lando finished with only seven points more than Alex Albon (who had a very unlucky season tbh). And only seventeen more points than Nyck De Vries. It was an absolutely decisive victory from George.
Josh nailed it, we all have our perceived bias' in what we favour. It certainly comes across the Sky F1 broadcasts that they get what us Aussie's call a "chubby" over the British drivers, but that's something I would expect from a British based broadcaster, who primary audience is firstly the British who pay for Sky. Let's not forget that this isn't new, not by any means. I can recall Murray Walker, as great as many of us believe him to be, was openly the leader of the Nigel Mansell, and Damon Hill fan clubs.
Exactly Sky are paying £200m a season for the rights to broadcast in the UK & Ireland they are not paying to be a international feed. If Dutch was the 'lingua franca' of the F1 watching world then Viaplay comms would be going around the world alongside F1TV and we'd be seeing huge complaints about Dutch bias.
There's lots to fault Murray on... but there's always going to be enthusiasm for 'the challenger'... and there probably should be. I can't fault Murray on that. Though perhaps lucky that those two weren't competing for the title in following years. ;)
While true that everyone has some bias, F1TV has British commentators and they're actually really good. They don't show bias, just objectively and passionately reporting on what's happening. It's unironically great.
I’d have nothing against them being biased on the British Feed. However if you live in America and just watch the races on TV you get the sky broadcast. They are broadcast to a lot of people not in Britain. And it gets annoying listening to them glaze the British drivers and hate on others.
I have no idea if this would work in practice, but I've had a theory on what 'might' be a way to at least reduce any potential bias. Use 4 stewards per race the however only 2 of those stewards have full coverage of the race the same as now; the other 2 stewards stay in a separate room where the room is essentially blank so they have no coverage of the race. Whenever an incident occurs, the regular 2 stewards view the issue as normal. With the other 2 stewards. they are given footage of the same incident however the footage has been altered (likely needing the help of AI I would reckon) so that the involved cars are basically painted/blocked over in one colour so there is no easy way to discern which car or team it belongs to. They then judge the incident separately, and if there is any discrepancy between both sets of stewards then they must come to a compromise
There is another option in Britain Josh, Radio BBC Radio 5 Live has the commentary of Ben Edwards alongside usually either Jolyon Palmer or Alice Powell, Ben is at least on par with Alex plus the insights of either Jolyon or Alice are excellent
British Bias has existed WELL before the Netflix era began. Brundle was the worst for it in the 2000s, especially with Button and Hamilton. He was even touting Ant Davidson as a future WDC when he scored points for the first time.
@@goodshipkaraboudjan if you look up one of Ross Brawn's podcast on the F1 channel, he mentioned this specifically. He said that you could see Brundle's resentment in his commentary towards Schumacher, contributing it to their history as teammates at Benetton (probably because Schumacher beat him and was the first driver at that team). This coming from Brawn should say enough.
There is british bias. Not just fans says this. F1 people say this. Sometimes in rulling, sometimes in the news cycle. Old and current drivers, people in the know, f1 journalist and even newey have stated this. And if you look at many more rulings this year. You can see it clearly. Like perez who was just a bit over the line and got a penalty. But a false start dud not. This video is bad. You are talking things down, and saying that its mostly just silly feelings. Its not. Like i said before, f1 journalist, old team workers in the paddock, old racers, people like max, alonso etc have said it. Newey who is in the sport for longer then many people who are watching this video. Other example: when checo got team orders , people cried how about bad this was. The british press went after rbr. Mclaren eho said they never will do it. Just did it again. No one responds. Or about cheating. They clearly Said mclarens back wing was illegal. Yet no goes after mclaren. While rbr and other teams get grilled if they even think they do something illegal. Take pitstops on 2021. So there is bias. Must say, normally love you video's. But it was very biased this time.
let's no forget Paul De Resta (a BRITISH driver) when he was on the f1 sky team was incredibly biased towards verstappen and red bull when they were battling with hamilton and mercedes... let's not forget that
Paul di Resta, aka RocketPoweredMohawk's worst nightmare. Honestly, the only reason he doesn't talk about him as much is because Lance Stroll already makes up a lot of his videos 😂
We need a team of dedicated stewards without links, friendships or loyalties to either teams or drivers. The same team at every race. They don't mingle, can't be ambassadors of clocks, watches or liquor and keep to themselves. No bias, no gifts but equal rules and regulations for every driver.
I'm not mad at Max for his controversial defending. He is having to battle the FIA as well as favouritism and bias. He is giving it his all. (This is coming from a Brit.) Lando is good but is he good because of the influential bias? We shall see. It's more clear than ever that the races are getting won in the board room. Also Ferrari don't need to be the best team. They are paid to be in F1 and have the protection of the brand that makes people devide over the team. (Ferrari rant over.)
stewards deliberately misinterpreted the wording of the regulations to uphold the result. Merc decided not to appeal simply because they didn't want to destroy the credibility of F1. Most sports lawyers agree that Merc could have got the result voided if it had gone to CAS. But the reputational damage to F1 would have been fatal and ultimately would not have helped because Max would have still won on countback. I would be surprised if the has been significant compensation paid to Merc after what happened.
It is just the same thing as 1994 again with the FIA and stewards disregarding their own rules and precedents to DQ Schumacher over and over so they could manufacture a title fight with Hill and then everyone getting surprised when Schumacher went all in to fight back. I hate how much of the 94 season has been completely rewritten by years of British press propaganda. Go back and watch the races on archive websites. Michael was having to fight the entire sporting organization and their business politics that season. It was insanity. Now everyone is getting a taste of that with Max vs the FIA stewards this season.
0:36 if Norris dive bomb max the British say it’s was pure skill meanwhile if Max dive bomb Norris and that Norris don’t have skill to defend and just only go out. The British bias say that was penalty. We all know biriths is only talk and do bad think behind the curtain just like they do with Hamilton for many year with battle against vettel and max
Note that the red flags were purely at the remit of the race director who was, obviously, not British. Overall I think while Johnny Herbert may not have been biased, his reactions to the controversy have not helped him in the slightest, especially as how Josh said, he defended himself by saying "these two people who directly benefitted from the decision also agreed" (I honestly hope to god he was drunk when he said that as a joke)
@@SuicidalSheep Because I'm wondering about the context of the quote and why he said it, because no sane person would have said that as it makes no sense
Herbert have been publicly biased multiple times, before and after he's become a steward. He's also affiliated with a sports GAMBLING site. Saying he can't be biased is absolutely ridiculous, sorry.
I’m happy someone brought this out. It’s hard to listen to sky sports when there’s so much bias and I thought it was because form a small, poor country and suffered from racism makes me a bit upset to listen someone take sides when they are supposed to just comment and narrate what is happening in the race.
With all due respect, as a proud Canadian....When it comes to Canadian bias.....we have none currently in the world of F1. Lance Stroll sucks to us just as much as he sucks to all of you.
Lance does not deserve his spot at this point. Give the spot to a young driver with talent. Signed - Canada
Usually I always am an enthusiastic fan of all Canadian drivers.....but Lance has never struck me as anything to root for. I am just glad unlike his F2 years where he hit everything but a pace car he is somewhat competent on occasion
As a canadian, I also agree to this comment
Fml don't get me started.
At least we had Gilles Villeneuve
The fact that Herbert is affiliated with a betting website is much more troublesome than all his other problematic behaviours.
He called Jos a cheater for bringing his own kart engines. The guy is an absolute moron and the FIA should get rid of him.
WOAH... Now thats a huge conflict of interest. Especially when the championship involves a close fight 😮
@@FonikosGazmas its really not a close fight max has to beat lando in 1 race just finish ahead of him at any of the three races and he clinches. if he finishes 6th at vegas he clinches so it not really a close race
herbert was never the same since that crash were his legs and feet were turned into a jigsaw puzzle.
The fact that a betting website is affiliated with Herbert is much more troublesome than all its other problematic behaviors
Lando made 3 overtakes in the entire weekend, 2 were team orders
He made up for his lack of overtakes with mistakes.
It's not talent, it's just luck
And he got overtaken 6 times.
OMG ! , your right 😮 , put it that way shows how bad it was
He ran off the track twice . . . .unfortunately for him and Herbert Max was too far away to blame for it
Herbert made a number of very strange comments between Mexico and Brazil that were completely unprofessional as a referee of the sport. Things like "Lando always wants to race cleanly but Max gets into these awful headspaces" and "Lando has proven he can fight Max in 2025." He's forgotten that he's no longer a Sky pundit and cannot separate this from his job. He needs to be removed as a steward in the interest of having impartial standards.
I do think this whole bias thing is getting ridiculous. BUT. Totally agree that F1 stewards should not be offering ANY opinions on drivers. Full stop. F1 Steward positions need to be fully paid professional positions. There should be a panel of say 10 srewards. The race director then nominates 2 or 3 of those Stewards for each race. Oh. And they can't be all of the same nationality. Perhaps the motor racing bodies of each nation can nominate a steward to be on the panel.
because max is a complete tosser and one hell of a dangerous driver.
his method of overtake is divebomb in a way where both cars cannot possibly get through. the driver hes divebombing either gets the hell out of the way (knowing the verstappen bias) or verstappen takes them both out. hes a f'ing clown.
and he does it *every. single. race.* hes yet another douchebag sim driver and its leaking through into his real life race career. needs to be told one or the other. go back to puter games, or grow the f up and stop putting people in danger.
There's pretty much no such thing as being impartial with stewards. Not how people work.
Happens in all sports
He's not a professional steward, and has now official FIA role outside of his inclusion in the 2024 list of stewards.
Unless he's officiating a race, then his comments are his own - and he is free to have and air opinions - you think his opinions would be different if he kept schtum? You think every other steward has no opinions on drivers, their personalities, and their styles? Fundamentally, do you disagree with his opinion you cited above? As a fan of F1, and Max, I 100% agree with what he - and almost everyone else - said.
Is it wise? Possibly not - and perhaps why SKY binned him off as they were scared of monsters under the bed.
But then again, JH, gives about as many shits as Jos V.
@@privateinformation2960 I don't entirely disagree but I find it funny how so many people scold Max for his dangerous driving yet call former champions with the same qualities the greatest of all time. In the future Max will probably be praised in the same way, the hate seems to fade over time after they retire and their achievements are only remembered in numbers and a handful of examples in which they show their raw speed
Has RocketPoweredMohawk still regained consciousness after that racing incident by Lance?
cant wait to see his video :D
sucks that he uploads so little on YT these days
BUT THEN!
The nerve
I SWEAR DOWN ON ME NAN'S GRAVE
As a Brit, British bias does exist, not even up for debate, and being a Schumacher fan, it royally p****d me off all the time.
Same boat here, feel like whenever Brundle talks about Schumi there’s always a back handed compliment added in.
They are boas but it boas toward RB, Max and Horner. they have been living up their backside for years. never 5 mins goes by without horner on the tv.
Remember, when Vettel was winning with a car marginally better than the other top cars on the grid, it was all the car. When Lewis was dominating in a car over a second faster in Qualyfying, it was his godgiven British talent and the bad weather in the UK, making him a great rain driver.
My suggestion would be to watch the German f1 coverage
@@brabhamF1 No, Vettel's RB car was all conquering. Alonso made it look less and Seb couldn't match the talent. Lewis is not better than George (Spa'24)
Johnny Herbert did his best to make himself look like an idiot that week
Well.. he's an idiot & a coward. I think few years ago even alonso had some fight with him 😂
just that week?
This has to be better performance than Ferrari in 2022
You summed up his racing career in a single sentence. Well done.
Herbett said about Max that he had a horrible mindset. You don`t say that as a steward, it has nothing to do with facts, it is just his bias against Max.
When Rosberg was beating Hamilton in 2016, in every single Sky Sports UK interview, all they did was ask Nico about Lewis and not about himself and what he achieved.
It was quite sad and pathetic really.
and that’s before they started parroting conspiracy theories about Mercedes sabotaging Lewis with swapping mechanics and deliberately making his car break down.
Rememeber 2021
sky was more pro rosberg at that time
@@benjicool2808 no way. Brundle and co were so far up LH arse they couldn’t see the sun from the moon. They had gotten used to having a British F1 champion the two years previously and knew that the Mercedes was a dominant car uncontested.
@@kwl189 remember the outbreak of brundle when Hamilton was slowing down in abu dhabi to make it harder for rosberg?
15:49 There is NEVER any Dutch media in the FIA or F1 Press Conferences outside Europe. ViaPlay holds the F1 streaming rights here, and the only Dutch people they send are in the driver interview panel while this presser is going on. So that's why you won't ever really see Dutch media in press conferences, unless the race is close like Zandvoort, Spa and maybe Silverstone.
And for context: ViaPlay are a Swedish company. They are mainly out to milk Dutch Max fans for their money, not to give them any actual good content.
They used to be there, but they had to cut costs since they nearly went bankrupt after buying the rights to F1 and it not being the success they hoped it would be. I'll leave the reasons for that lack of success out of this. So to cut costs it was decided the commentary team and others would not be flown out to races anymore, unlike most other commentary teams. And only a bare bones staff would be flown out, just enough to do the interviews in the pen.
@@erwinmulder1338 As long as we dont have to suffer through another era of Olav Mol and that c*nt Jack Plooij.
Johnny Herbert's blatant bias was exposed during Australia for his bogus penalty towards Alonso and it's all gone downhill ever since.
You mean when Alonso kept changing his story because his telemetry caught him bang to rights?
@@azapro911 womp womp, Russell should drive better
@@azapro911 its just funny that what we consider a brake check, typically involving braking out of nowhere and someone having to take evasive action to avoid a collision, in f1 that same definition is somehow also applied to the wake or dirty air of the car in front.
lets get real. alonso is no slouching idiot behind the wheel. he knew that he wanted to give george dirty air through that turn but the discussion i suppose starts there. should alonso have been allowed to do that? he didn't put his physical car in the path of russell by braking early, rather he put his dirty air in russell's path.
@@no1washerezzbut that would mean you can dish out penalty based of.. litteral air...
@@JohnDoe-ji5wgWomp womp, Alonso finally got what he deserved, as did his toxic fans.
If anybody favoured wet conditions, it was Dick Seaman 11:47 .
It was a hard fought victory.
A long hard race for sure.
he fought off stiff competition
There he goes into the corner, inside of his rival, now taking the lead.
@@nascarstopmotionguy They rubbed him the wrong way before the race. He was coming for them.
While Sky uk are, obviously, a British broadcaster, their feed is used in the us, australia, most of the pacific, and parts of asia. To add insult to injury in a lot of those places, f1 tv isn’t available. At least give us options.
only having 1 option in a country is a scam, hate sky
I hate David Croft. We had it good with Bob Varsha and Lee Diffey when no one in the US gave a shit.
@@MrRtischyou forgot David Hobbs and Steve Matchett
same here in Ireland. I would switch to F1TV in a heartbeat if it were available here. I'm honestly considering a vpn just to get F1TV and not have to tune in to Sky anymore
exactly, who gives a F*** if Italian media is licking Ferrari's as* in their coverage because it's not shown outside of Italy anyway.
P1 said it right, acting steward should not share biased pre-judgemental opinions about drivers to sole press groups. Having this Herbert with the son of the founder of mcclaren as steward in Mexico handing out penalties to Max isnt plain neutral anymore especialy with all different "interpretations".
I think Max comment at the press was a joke, but lets not forget british press did before grilled him in the post race interviews when he got penalties. So apparently they do choose with their feet when to show up. If Max was british and raced like brazil, be sure the room would have been full of british press. I mean some press teams have 10 men on location. Your telling me none would go? Good video for the rest, love the work.
None of that matters. These guys are volunteers, they are not paid to be stewards. If F1 wants official stewards then they should cough up the money.
None of Herbert’s stewarding on Max was incorrect. And that’s the only thing that matters. In Austin Max fans said Max exploits the rules. Well the rulebook is what did him in Mexico and Brazil.
A fact of motor racing is that it’s virtually impossible to have qualified stewards that lack any former affiliation to racing teams, Herbert for instance used to drive for jaguar, does that mean that he would be biased towards modern day Red Bull?
You could find any perceived bias if you look hard enough
Imagine a football referee having media interview after the game 😮😮
@@paperplane-db8qf We are talking about pro-British which is obvious, while there is undeniably also an anti-Max bias. That's why I said, get rid of the stewards altogether, apply the rules to the letter, always, for every driver and every lap. Even an AI could take better and more consistent decisions that the stewards.
Bet you didn't mind Honda's Derek Warwick blatantly giving Verstappen preferential treatment at COTA, he overtook Sainz (who got to the apex line first) from off the track and received no penalty.
If you paint a person as a villain people start to see him as a villain no matter how nice or what for person you are.
Tbh i started watching because max takes so many risks to win and he is the most entertaining person on the grid.
"If you paint a person as a villain people start to see him as a villain" is a weird quote when the past decade of F1 social media has just been painting anyone unlucky enough to be born on this shitty island as a villain because BrItIsH BiAs
When I was introduced to F1, I was already questioning why they hate Max so much because he's actually a nice and sweet guy. So what if he's aggressive on track and he gets mad (just like any driver)? It's entertaining and it does not define him as a person. I personally like aggressive driving done right like how Max and Fernando does it, just like how Senna and Schumacher did before. That is racing, not a car parade.
True, this has been going on for years already. Max didnt put a foot wrong in 18-20 and 22-23 and still the media reminded everybody almost every race that Max is a 'dirty driver'.
Norris - Unsanctioned restart in 🇧🇷 - Fined €5,000
Mercedes - Tire pressure shenanigans in 🇧🇷 - Fined $10,000 (€5,000 per car)
Tsunoda - Late for the pre-race national anthem in 🇨🇦 - Fined €10,000
Lecleck & Max - Community service and $10 000 fine for saying F@ck
Max - $50 000 fine for touching Hamilton rear wing after a race !!!
ENOUGH SAID !!!
Lecleac actually get community Service? I didn’t think he did!
@@shaunraymond5615 He didn't, only fined I think
You're mainly talking about the last 3 races, but this problem has been going on for way longer. Schumacher, Vettel, Alonso, Rosberg, Verstappen, they've all been portrayed as villains in their title fights against British drivers. And let's not forget the weekend Red Bull boycotted Sky, after "Mr T" said Max couldn't win championships in a normal way and how Hamilton was robbed. You'd think they'd stand still and reflect if there is bias, but nope, there is no bias and they just keep doing what they've always been doing.
And sure, Dutch media is biased, just like the Spanish, German and Italian too. But they're not the ones getting hired by the biggest F1 broadcasters like F1TV or SkySports F1. Even F1TV has had very questionable moments, especially when it comes to people like Buxton.
Also, much of the blame gets redirected to social media. And while there are some incredibly unhinged people on social media, when you're a presenter or reporter you can't just say anything and expect no response. Especially when you're a steward that has openly been against a certain driver and then say you don't bring any bias into the stewarding room.
So basically they're all as biased as each other but the British media gets more coverage because English is more of a lingua franca than other languages
thier country too will be bias for them man youre not making any sense.
@@matthewthomas2546 i have a good amount of watchtime on the dutch, german and english broadcasts and the amount of bias in the dutch and german ones are nothing compared to the english. the british have not only far more cases of bias but they are on average far more extreme in that bias.
You said it better than I ever could
@@joeyboli you seem to miss the point, If you work overseas, travel internationally what broadcast will you MOSTLY be exposed to ? THE ENGLISH !
An American company owns a majority in F1 and guess what Americans still see only see British media Broadcast ...they use Skysports (British media) on espn etc. The Brith have a monopoly on F1 media and how they portray anyone in F1 , staff Drivers including TEAMS like red bull and how evil and corrupt they are pushed and stared by British Media .
Them giving a fine to lando for the aborted start is so insane. There were marshalls working on the track. He could have endangered them if for example he had a brake or talent failure at that corner.
$5k penalty for Norris' false start, $10k for Leclerc's swearing, and $50k for max and vettel because they touched Merc's rear wing. Make it make sense.
But when Sainz did the exact same thing after the aborted start in Monza 2023, there was no penalty?
Make it make sense
@@quietbatperson did Sainz risk marshals and tractor operator that could potentially still be on the track? Those factors coupled with wet track were what caused Bianchi's fatal accident in 2014. The green light hasn't flashed green when Norris restarted which meant that the track was not completely safe, rules are rules, period.
Now you can argue that by the time the cars passed the accident spot, there were no longer any marshals on the track (Edit: confirmed by Kym Illman that in fact they WERE STILL ON TRACK when norris passed). However, FIA has always enforced penalties in the premise of "action not consequences", yet they throw this out of the window for this one time. Put it either way, getting fined 2x amount of this infringement over swearing is ridiculous.
@metalpiston1212 Did Sainz break the same procedure as Norris or not?
Simple yes or no question.
The answer is 'yes'. So surely Sainz should have been penalised? Why was a Ferrari driver not penalised for breaking the rules in Monza?
I have no idea why you’re still crying about this. It wasn’t a breach by the rule books.
Maybe they should change the rules to make this a penalizable offense in the future. But stewards don’t make up new rules during the race.
I mean yeaa. In 2016 Joylon Palmer was named the driver of the race in some British articles for finishing 11th on his debut while in the same race Grojean finished 6th on Haas's debut. And there's more examples. So as a british citezen they are bias. Discuss.
Driver of the day is a global vote, that is completely meaningless, and Palmer finished 11th on debut in what was the 9th best car.
@@andrewcarter9649 it was not back then
@@thomasblack33Bloody oath it was! That Renault was just the Lotus of the previous year jerryrigged to fit the 2016 regs and a Renault engine in the back…
The driver of the day voting in Australia 2016 was a mess all around. I believe Haryanto initially won that vote.
You can’t use that as an indication of bias. Verstappen literally has the most driver of the days of any driver. And one of those was Austin 2016; even less deserved than Haryanto in Australia
@@Fons.sthe only bias that indicates is confirmation bias haha
Herbert wrote it on the wall in big ass letters when he didnt penalize Lando for the giant cock up at the start the rules are very clear that this was a major penalty. Then to turn around not penalize him and go on to write a note that this isnt the president but an exception and that it shouldn't be expected for anyone else. That it plain BIAS.
Ppl have been disqualified for such an offence (driving on a closed track) before lol, altho not in f1.... but sure lets just give him a pat on the back and 5k fine 😂
And literally they wrote "this penalty should not be used as further precedence" which is plainly illegal. Imagine a judge saying "Well the defendant is guilty but for my personal reasons I can't punish him but this is not a precedence though others must be punished for the same crime". I mean THE FUCK? How is this even allowed?
Max would have gotten a drive through penalty if he did that. Guaranteed.
@@sanjay_swain i mean, f1 has been dealing with incredibly inconsistent stewarding anyways. the solution is to have a set designated group of stewards going around the globe or one set for each continent.
there's many instances of these inconsistencies like verstappen not getting a penalty for brazil 2021 but did get one for a very similar repeat in mexico just this year.
@@scottb9868 the rules aren't clear that it's a major penalty. Sainz did the exact same thing in Monza and didn't even get fined.
I don't see any British conspiracy in that, just incompetence from the stewards
What I think is often missed about the bias of the British press is their demeanor. Yes, everyone is biased, but I get the sense that the British press are the only ones swearing up and down that they're not biased, and to even suggest so is an outrage. I'm guessing you won't see Mexian media claim that their depiction of Liam Lawson with devil's horns is some sort of honest appraisal of his driving talent. I guess a good way to describe the modus operandi of the British press is as "concern trolling". When someone runs their favourite driver off the road, it isn't just a dirty move, it is A Threat To The Very Fabric Of Motor Racing.
It’s worth noting red flags, scs and vscs are called by the race director, not the stewards. Johnny Herbert couldn't have had anything to do with it.
This. People who keep parroting this don't understand the sport yet. Race direction and stewarding are separate from each other with good reason.
And that's probably why vitich is now gone
Didn't know that thk
@@johnnyricoMC I mean, as someone who only watches races, why would I know this? Its never told during the broadcast. Its normal to not know all this.
I mean, Herbert saying Zack Brown and Norris agreed with him doesn’t really help his case. It added a lot of fuel to the fire
Yeah every country is based, but its just that the UK broadcast is meant to be the "global" one
Hey, if y'all wanna make a new "global" one, I'd be all for it. Just tired of getting shat on for being British for no reason lmao
based comment.
Sorry but I'm not sure you will find an unbiased feed unless its made up of people with zero connection to the sport and who have absolutely no connection to the teams or drivers. This isn't an F1 thing it's a thing in every sport. The only way around it would be to have every country in the world that broadcasts F1 to have their own local commentary team that can be as biased or unbiased as the want based on their personal connections and feelings
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN it aint no reason my guy.
You SPECIFICALLY aren't being shat on, but the attitude and control of f1 absolutely is. And its more than just the broadcasting.
Bro said North Korea is based 💀
Well YT notifications do you dirty... I saw the video before one came in.
I think UA-cam notifications come in the post nowadays 😂
British bias
"GP2 notifications, GP2. AAAAARRRGGGHHH!!!"
@@CyanRooper notifications feel nice, much slower than before
@@Thefrogbread 🤣🤣🤣
We should indeed give the stewards some slack, but appointing Herbert after his history of being critical about Max, especially in this stage of the season, was a bad choice by the FIA.
Also, nice how you ‘forgot’ to mention that Mercedes weren’t really punished (a fine is hardly punishment!) for altering tire pressure on the grid, which is EXPLICITLY forbidden in the rules. Can you wholeheartedly say that RBR would have gotten away with ‘just’ a fine if they would have been the perpetrator?
Merc are German. So does this mean there is now an Anglo-German bias in the FIA?
Merc changing tyre pressures was entirely legal. The only illegal thing they did was not taking the wheels off the car beforehand. I therefore consider this more of a procedural breach rather than a sporting infringement so a fine is sufficient.
The FIA really like hiring people who don't want the current world champion to win since Charlie went.
@@jasoncp3257lol typical of people to complain when things don't go their way or get called out but when they step over the line or get away with things they shrug it off..I mean fia helped max in 21 ADHabi (I think it wqs abkut money) also rmb in austin how perez had a broken front wing and wqs able to do 10 laps then the piece fell off but in that same race hulkenberg had the same issue but wqs told by the fia to come in immediately into the pits...fia only consistent abkut inconsistency.
apparently they didn't actually change the tyre pressures, they were trying to but didn't manage it in time - that's what russell said after the race at least. if true, I guess that's why there was no penalty.
Another thing that bothers me is that sometimes the rules instantly come into question when they benefit Max. I'm not sure if some of these regulations have been regarded as problematic before, but here are some examples:
1. Banning the point for fastest lap after Ricciardo took a point from Lando at the Singapore GP.
2. The rules of being allowed to push someone wide when being ahead at the apex coming into question after Max uses them to his advantage at the US GP. (I agree it's a stupid rule BTW, just weird that it is that way and only got questioned after that race)
3. Media questioning the free pit-stop under the red flag after the Brazilian GP.
The last one I find especially dumb if you think 10 seconds about it. Imagine if Max would NOT be allowed to change his tyres under the red flag. He would be forced to go out on his old tyres in a race that had been neutralized. After the pitstop it would put him all the way at the back of the grid. Obviously it would be way more dangerous and unfair to not change tyres under a red flag, so why question the rule?
@@Dwerg great points. Imagine waving a red flag on a dry race just before a rain starts, and then the cars need to restart on wet tracks on old slicks. I'm pretty sure this scenario is the valid reason why tyre-change under red flag was allowed in the first place.
The last one is illogical anyway. Do they seriously want another red flag? As that's a sure way to get one.
1: Fastest lap point has always been seen as an annoying gimmick by a lot of fans.
2: It only got questioned then because Verstappen is the one who primarily does it and judging from the drivers' reactions afterwards they clearly don't like it either.
3: Everyone absolutely hated the free pitstop under red flag rule in Monaco earlier this year, Brazil simply brought the discussion back into the limelight.
@@lukew6725 agree with number 2. But the fact that 1&3 have been brought right after it was beneficial for Max is peculiar. Especially because they happen to disadvantage McLaren in the contrary, specifically, at the same occasions.
@@Dwerg it never used to be an issue because races were never used to be red flagged. Simple solution, stop red flagging the race when it isn't necessary.
I think a lot of the fuel for the bias talk post Interlagos was that we've seen drivers in F1 immediately disqualified for entering a closed racetrack without race control's consent.
We also saw Doriane Pin given an immediate 20s penalty for doing the same thing at the F1 Academy race in Jeddah earlier this season.
For the FIA not to clamp down on a safety regulation like that, going against their own precedent, looks highly suspect, although I don't think it has anything to do with Herbert and Warwick being British, and everything to do with keeping the show alive, because no one is tuning into Abu Dhabi or Losail if the titles are wrapped up by then.
We've seen sketchy decisions from stewards and the FIA when they want to keep the title race going, like the infamous Massa/Alonso impedance at Monza that one year.
P17 start because ICE change, not gearbox
Internal Combustion Engine, isn't it?
@@RadityaPramanaPutra2001 exactly, but for nowadays it's only a part of power unit.
@pupkinson8914 Yes, I know that. Alright.
Shows the IQ you're dealing with here
It's the same guy that argued for 17mins that there's no british bias, give him a break :D
I'm sorry, the drivers name was WHAT?? 11:48
Yep and his real name was Richard "Dick" Seaman.
😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
seamen in Peter's giggling voice
He was a master in the wet
More annoying than press, which I can ignore, is bias in TV coverage
Some drivers are barely seen in a race in favor of showing lap after lap of someone 'more favored' even if they are making no ground and are out of the points
Brit here, and bias definitely exits. Even my dad, a Proud British Bias man, is starting to become annoyed with Sky's bias towards the brits. Just give us informed commentary, not wha wha cry cry norris is not winning (in arguably the best car) cos max is c H e ATi Ng. its exhausting.
(oh, and great video, Josh! Always a pleasure to watch.)
7:46 what annoys me so badly about that one is that a lot of drivers of the grid might have been dropped by their team for such a mistake
9:02
They brought out the Red Flag because someone _did_ drown: Colapinto by aquaplaning into the wall. To be fair, Williams did nothing but crash that day, so not suprised you forgot about that.
Craziest thing is he aquaplaned during a sc, which means he drove at 50% of his max pace. It’s honestly unsafe and ridiculous the red flag wasn’t called before. I’m glad this joke of a race director was fired. Compromised safety on all fronts just to get the title fight for the drivers closer again.
I'm from South africa and we have 'Supersport' as a sports channel but the only F1 commentary we get is sky f1 for some reason and we dont have another , it is so annoying how little to almost no attention is given to drivers that are no british , Hamilton or Russell or Norris could be overtaking a bloody haas for P12 and crofty will scream and you'd swear it's for the lead of the race , it also crazy how unenthusiastic they get when a British is not leading a gp , in Monza when Charles won I'll never foget they barely mentioned him and talked about how Norris can get back into the race , What Norris should've done in the start , how he should handle the race , even in Austin and in Mexico , I mean the british press not attending the conference after Brazil confirmed everything for me 🤷♂️
It's almost as if you've never listened to the same Sky F1 that i do with this comment.
I watch the Sky feed all thr time and to my experience. That's just not true. And I'm not British by the way.
@@blueguy12345yeah of course you wouldn't notice 🙃
Fellow South African and I can confirm this.
@@blueguy12345 It's almost like you are in your own universe....I can hear the bias clearly
So how expensive would it be for Supersport to pay for a local presenter to provide live race commentary?
The reality is it’s not Skys fault if your local broadcaster is too tight to support their local subscribers.
12:40 Herbert: "I wasn't the only one why thought Max was over the top in Mexico. Norris and Brown did so too."
That's like Masi after AD21 saying, "There was nothing wrong with the restart after the safetycar, and I'm not the only one who thinks that. Verstappen and Horner agreed."😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The man clearly is not too bright. He also said that he was entitled to give his opinion on drivers because Martin Brundle does it too... completely missing the point that Brundle is in fact there as a journalist/pundit, and is in no position to influence the race. It's shocking that he doesn't see the difference.
An FIA official, let alone a steward, should not comment on the driving style and mentality of the contestants. Period. Not to mention the fact that someone who can influence the outcome of races and championships is also being paid by a betting company... how is that possible??
You also have to remember Max is not the first driver to bring up British Bias, Schumacher and Alonso also mentioned it in the past
Alonso's was the most blatant case of British bias and no one noticed it when the reporters kept asking him "Are you expecting your teammate to gift you the win?"
@@Kuromori-v9z don't forget Alonso called out Herbert's resentment towards non-british drivers way back in Australia (after his collision with Russel that caused him harsh penalty). He was always right.
Yes, they also got pissy because the British media called them the cynical cheats that they were.
@@Kuromori-v9z if you're talking about the "Fernando is faster than you" incident, they were on his case because it was a blatant team order in a season where they were BANNED. Framing it as the British media hounding him instead of a team breaking the rules and Fernando benefitting from it (which funnily enough happened at the 2008 Singapore GP, weird how that kept happening) is so biased as to be unreal.
Any journalist would be crazy not to challenge Fernando on that situation. He's not allowed to escape scrutiny just because the people asking the questions are British
You can say that for every country specific broadcast. Sky Italia see Charles as the second coming of Jesus, and Viaplay see Max as their idol.
The thing is that Sky UK is the international broadcast, they have a deal with ESPN in the US, and other broadcasters around the world due to being an English speaking channel. They have to be somewhat neutral. Crofty and Brundle can have their favorites, everyone has the right to have a favorite, but they have to be neutral when speaking to the general public, they can't let it cloud their judgement.
I agree, I hate as an Aussie having to hear the lando talk like he is the next coming of Jesus when Oscar has proven all year he is nearly as good or even better than lando yet all I hear is British media go on about lando
But Sky are 'somewhat neutral' compared to most national broadcasters (and I'm saying this when I don't even like Sky). The reality is they're also *the* British national broadcaster so they're also gonna interpret it in a British way (as all other broadcasters do vis a vis they're own countries). Don't like it? Tough shit. Lobby for your own broadcaster to do international F1 coverage. I don't see why British coverage has to be more whiter than white than the rest (which is often much worse in that regard).
@@MrDragon1968it's very easy to make a statement like that when you probably wouldn't understand Dutch, German or Spanish commentary.
@@Krausty I had a Dutch girlfriend for years and used to go to the Netherlands all the time. I was learning Dutch while we were together. But that's beside the point. International broadcasts are always going to be in English. If you want another to take over from Sky go for it.
You can't really fault Sir Lancelot for running out of talent when he didn't have much to begin with 😅
He was f3 european champ, a series, where you had to have some talent to win, because the grid was damn good with now top drivers.
What he did in Brazil showed not only lack of talent (losing control under braking) but also lack of intelligence (driving into the gravel trap).
@lordracer7743 bruh that series he won was very controversial as his car had been shown to be different and better than other cars in A SPEC SERIES where all the cars are meant to be the same
I have canadian bias. All of my countrymen are of the same mind that lance stroll is terrible😢
Which do you prefer? Gilles or Jacques Villeneuve?
I have Ukrainian bias, however lance is terrible :) But, there were worst :)
I prefer "greg moore" that was a talent that went too young
not same mind, sane mind
@@RadityaPramanaPutra2001 Latifi
The drive of Lando during the aborted start should have been penalized much more severely as marshals were on the track. Here British bias could have helped him
2:08 Literally postponed going to the hospital in 2019 so that I could see Hockenheim in the wet and it was worth it. Nothing stops me from watching a wet race lol.
the thing with for instance sky sport, they kept talking a long time about the thing that allows height adjustment, and of course mexico, they ignored everything about the Rear wing that had a mini DRS! How it was found to be illigal to use after that race in Baku! Yet they didn't cover anything about that. I think when we say british bias it is more sky sport and their commentators. The flag situations in brasil were..... sus timing though
And Max remarks at the press, just jokes and the british dudes just reacted so sad hahaha.
And dutch media isn't that big soooo duh
Why would they be talking about a rear wing that wasn't in use though, and wasn't found to be illegal?
As for the long waits for obvious VSC/Safety Cars/red flags, thats been a problem with Wittich from the start, Coulthard was criticising exactly that in commentary last year.
@@andrewcarter9649 tf do you mean? it was in use in Baku... it was there, mclaren said they removed it for fairness or something, while FIA said, if you use it AGAIN it will be found illigal, because from a technical stand point that rear wing is illigal.
For the thousand time it wasn't illegal if it was Red bull would have protested and could still go to world motorsports concil
It was just jokes, but even some Max fans ran with it. Somehow shocked that a TV commentator or pundit wasn’t at a press conference.
@@andrewcarter9649because they do the same for Verstappen. On the final lap of Brazil, they were talking about Mexico. They were talking about Austria (which wasn't even Max's fault completely) while he was cooking on hards in Silverstone. They went on and on and on about the sim racing in Hungary.
Those three races also happen to be 3 enormous Norris (and Mclaren) bottles.
Meanwhile, Mclaren had a flexi wing on the car which was quite obviously against the spirit of the regulations (hence being outlawed later), and it got the same amount of attention by Sky as Bottas getting P18 instead of P19.
Some great points. Some solutions;
1. For the sky international broadcast, have some former drivers and current commentators that's ARENT from the UK (Nico doesn't count)
2. Don't have people that have been openly critical of certain drivers enforcing rules (Herbert) or the son of a founding F1 team (Meyers, son of one of founders of McLaren). Seems a little logical
I totally understand having media for a UK broadcast, be biased towards those drivers. But for international broadcasting, it should be different.
As far as the rules and stewards go. Aren't there plenty of former international drivers that could also be part of this process? I mean there are some drivers who haven't even driven F1 that are part of this, which should make it even easier
As a proud italian living abroad, I am aware of the many things going on internationally with F1, and I have to say that, when looking at Sky Italia, I can say that yes, they do have a bit of bias. During the races, they will always have one eye pointed on Leclerc even if he is out of the points. This is though because of the italian viewers not really being interested in F1 other than because of Ferrari, and mainly Charles. That however doesn't stop them from properly reacting to the other battles. The "bias" in Italian commentators is just an extra attention to the Ferraris and how they are running, to keep the Italian spectators entertained. Many times they have even gone against Ferrari, for poor strategy or for bad misconduct, they keep it professional while sharing the passion for Ferrari.
Having listened to the Spanish commentary, I can say that they do the same thing as the Italians, just with Alonso and Sainz, although they do tend to show a bit more bias when things get heated, but that is acceptable I guess.
Now, the british media have way more bias than any of the ones above, going to the extremes to defend their drivers. This I guess would be just an example of a commentator doing things in the best interest of fans, but unfortunately, because the british media is the only things f1 fans in other countries are able to watch, the level of bias is unacceptable for the other parts of the world.
As a Spaniard, the trio of Lobato, De La Rosa amd Toni is very good. They have bias, yes, but when they tallk about the rest of the grid they donit pretty well.
Unlike some 🇬🇧
Same with the german broadcast. Extra attention for Hulk, before that Mick, nothing else. Also with Vettel and Schumacher.
Ralf Schumacher (Sky Germany) was a bit soft on Mick if im honest, but also never backed out of giving him crap for doing an obvious mistake. That not only the same nationality, its the same FAMILY.
No excuses or unneeded praise, no villainization of driver of another country/the championship rival - which is very much what the brits do at every single turn, without fail or hesitation.
Fernando Alonso was highly spoken of in german TV, Räikkönen was praised, Montoya was often applauded for how rapid he was, Hamilton still gets praised, Lando was often praised this season and Verstappen over the last years too (And hes dutch; Germany has very much has a sporting rivalry with the Netherlands//all the people mentioned were Championship rivals, and partly even winners over our guys)
The take here in the comments that the british media is just doing what everyone else is doing is completely ignorant and hilariously wrong.
Its also proves that they dont speak another language.
@@LiftandCoathe end of the video literally gives examples of other media being just as (if not more so) biased as British media. Imagine if Sky created an imagine of Max with devil horns-people would be foaming at the mouth-but because it’s Mexican tv with Liam Lawson nobody cares.
I’m also old enough to remember Spanish media’s treatment of Hamilton when he was up against Alonso In 2007-08. La Marca once ran a headline “this is the only way he can win” after Hamilton won a race due to an Alonso grid penalty, and Spanish fans showing up in blackface to races was largely swept aside by Spanish media. More recently, you’ve have Spanish commentary saying “this will be good for Sainz” when Leclerc crashed out, and Dutch commentary calling Hamilton a “sucker” and saying “toodles” when he went off track in Baku 2021.
I think we’re at the point where people are so obsessed with “British bias” and ready to get angry that they actively look for anything a British commentator says that indicates a slight preference for a British driver, but are quite happy to disregard anything from any other media. Confirmation bias, really.
They're so much biased towards alonso that amazes me, they wouldn't care about what's happening at the front between the Ferraris, redbulls or mclarens and just give some anecdots about Alonso, his team and other latinoamerican drivers that might happen to compete for a p15 in the meantime@@ok-___okokokokoko7661
I do think Herbert should not be a steward. Finally one thing I agree with Jos Verstappen about. He's a pundit, that's fine. Be biased all you want, I love that. A steward as well, no. They're supposed to be neutral. He's the quintessential Tory, looking out for number one and seeing nothing wrong with that. Alan Rickman as Judge Turpin in Sweeny Todd all over again.
The eminent JP Herbert is not a steward, he is an insult to all the non-British drivers, a sour joke.👴🤮
Not only that, but there also seems to be a certain thing between Herbert and gambling sites. What was it? Sponsorships?
@@FrancisFjordCupolaAddiction?
8:06 forgot (/j) to mention the crowd shouting "Drugovich" and laughing/shouting "Burro" ("Dunce" in tupiniquim language in this context) on the absolute shitshow that Sir Lancelot did.
11:48 That name tho 💀💀💀
I had to pause the video and laugh for a bit. That name is wild!
Ayo whaaaat 💀💀💀
Ayyy lmao
bruh 💀
We need a kiwi commentator on the grid
we need josh as a steward (GRID PLACE PROMOTION TO POLE FOR LIAM LAWSOM)
Well it has to be one of Rose Matafeo, Jacinda Ardern, Greg Murphy or Crowded House as those are the only New Zealanders I can think of off the top of my head.
@@rayansuleri2052 Lawson seems like a massive dick though.
Why???
Get Greg Murphy on the job
For me my frustration with the Bias came to a head recently was when the enthusiasm for Carlos Sainz' win at the Mexico GP was lukewarm. Like come on dudes! Guy had a phenomenal drive and you guys don't praise him? Its not solely a British Motorsport anymore. Its an International Motorsport with drivers from around the world with the talent to drive some intense machinery. Treat them all with the respect whenever they regardless where they come from you know?
The problem is formula 1 has a popularity bias more than a British bias.
You know, it always strikes me that the front runner in a race doesn't get a lot of attention unless he's in a battle. The cameras follow the battles. So the "best driver in the best car" doesn't get that much airtime. I think Saenz in one of the top two or three most liked drivers in the UK. Modest, great at times, not too whiny, a little bit of a scrappy underdog, and losing his place not very deservedly at Ferrari. People in the UK love a Saenz win.
its never been a British motorsport. only recently has british drivers been any good with hamilton and norris. historically there havent been very many (there have been a few but not many)
@@ezcyberpupare you joking? The British have 20 driver titles. That doesn't make sense.
@@ezcyberpupClark, Stewart, Hill (Snr & Jnr), Mansell, Button… More WDC than any other nation?
Glad to hear you big up Alex Jacques’ commentary. He, David Coulthard and Mark Webber are about as good as it gets. It’s criminal that their commentary isn’t available to us in the UK.
15:10 the plot is lost once you say "everyone has bias. What can you do". There are ways to solve it... This was a cop out.
Enlighten us. How do you solve this bias you speak of? And remember, your response must be unbiased, and I'm the one who'll judge if your response is unbiassed or not.
@sbGOM F1 tv is well regarded as an objective, unbiased, and frankly far more interesting media in respect to Sky F1. It's literally just a question of finding: who can put their bias aside, not shit on Max for every little thing he does (as far as I know they kept bringing up the fact that he stayed on his sim) and act like a fucking commentator instead of a hooligan? The answer is literally right there. F1 TV instead of F1 sky sport. This video was way more about finding excuses than actually addressing a (pretty clear) problem
Yeah agreed.
I liked P1 podcast’s take a lot more on this subject.
Herbert is openly critical of Verstappen.
with good reason.
@@zt2maxno he isn't
Now I'm glad that Damon Hill is out of Sky Sports. About high time that mid world champion isn't allowed to comment his biased views anymore
I don’t think you need to be a top driver to be a top commentator. But when tears are in your eyes from sadness after just watching one of the greatest drives ever, you just don’t love the sport.
Ok but was there really a driver in the 50s called…Dick SEAMAN !!!
He died in 1939
@ only the good die young
Lmaoooo love that my two fave kiwi f1 uoutubers basically made the same video in the space of the week right down to talking about unconscious bias. Kind of uncanny
Kiwi?
@Lewythefly no idea if youre serious or taking the piss here mate
this also happened in Australia. Alonso was given a 20 second penalty, demoting him to p13, for "break testing" George Russel. And who was the steward: Johnny Herbert
9:35 That’s a bit much for Colapinto. He was begging the team for wets (the correct call) and they refused to give them to him. He crashed on a straight section of road after he hit a literal river crossing the track on cold inters.
What's with the Argentinian bias towards Colapinto, in Brazil there were loads of Argentinian fans cheering for Colapinto but not one of them was cheering for Verstappen. Why were there no Argentinian journalists in the press conference! In case you couldn't tell I'm being sarcastic. 🤌😂
@@danielhale2080the difference is the British broadcast the sport to the English speaking world and have a bunch of stewards and officials in the sport. In Australia, F1TV is made unavailable and I'm forced to watch SkyF1. David Crofty one of the biggest wankers in the sport.
@@Lewytheflywhat's the problem. A British broadcaster talks about a British driver, oh good heavens!
@@danielhale2080 but they aren't a British broadcaster, they are broadcasting to the English speaking world and the rest of the world are forced to watch it. I wouldn't care if we had our own broadcast free from Sky F1.
@@Lewythefly get a grip, you aren't forced to watch F1. This is a new phenomena since Russell and Norris got into competitive cars. There was no talk of British bias when it was just Hamilton. Maybe it's just a perception of bias because there are proportionately more British drivers on the grid who happen to be quite good and are at the front, so naturally they will be talked about more. Just a thought, but if you don't like the service don't use it. No one is making you use it.
In international footbal matches we make sure that the referees are of another nationality than that of the two competing nations...... maybe we can come up with something vagely similar for F1 race stewarts?
it's hard to do that when you could have 10+ nationalities in one race, in a football match there's only 2.
It is a bit irritating, but not everyone does it equally. Ted, Hill and Herbert seem pretty horrible, but Brundle and Coulthard seem better. And to be fair the Dutch press is even worse, but the difference is that they don't present for an international audience and don't hold much power.
I think you strictly have to distinguish between media and the stewards regarding that bias.
The stewards have to be completely impartial, obviously. I'm not a conspiracy theorist and to me, I don't see any British bias there (I'm German). I just don't. Decision can be hard to take, so you always can argue one way or another, but overall they could be explained perfectly without invoking any bias. For example, in COTA, Lando was the one getting the penalty in a close situation, where many people saw Max at fault for overshooting the apex. In Mexico, I think there isn't any discussion that Max was at fault for both incidents. And in Brazil, Lando was the lucky one with a smaller than expected penalty. But the decisions weren't at all ridiculous in either direction.
😂😂😂 stop lying that you are german lmao stop using your fake account brit
COTA was under the rules people will see lot of things but Max was still under rules hate the game not the player
Mexico first penalty was bullshit give me examples who overtook in that corner in the same exact manner nada no one Norris was given assurances that if he puts his car in that corner Max will be penalized no matter the outcome Lando didnt have any intentions to overtake instead just put his car and watch Max get penalty for defending.
F1 academy and F3 gets a penalty for race start infringements but not a british driver so please stfu if you dont comprehend more than 10 words at a time
I appreciate this Sebastian, you seem to be the only one I have read that applied any critical thinking to it instead of circularly starting with the conclusion that the conspiracy is true, like most seem to enjoy doing because they get all emotional about it.
As a fernando fan I've been seeing the bias for such a long time, glad it's starting to get known for more people
As a British person, we hate the Sky coverage too. There’s bits that were good, but we’ve been begging for it to go back to channel 4 since it changed (ITV has kinda gone to shit in recent times, they had F1 in the 90’s)
However, I will say that in terms of bias towards our own countrymen, we are definitely not the worst offenders. If you’re British you know how much drivers like Lewis, Button, Russell and Norris have all been slated in the press at various times. Lewis got it pretty consistently at the beginning of his career, and that isn’t mentioning how other countries media outlets sometimes talk about British drivers. I think the whole British bias thing is a little unfair, as most of the sport is centred around here it’s inevitable that we are going to be over represented. Then there’s the suspect flag calls, which for some reason are being talked about in the same conversation as stewarding. The race director controls the flags, it has nothing to do with stewarding or Herbert. Also many people neglect to mention that he isn’t the only steward and that the other stewards are also ex drivers etc. and are from many other countries.
I’m sure there are some people within the sport who are biased, but the way people talk about it, it’s as if there’s some sort of pro-British agenda with everything, which is just simply untrue. Anyway, I was a Schumi fan growing up and although I don’t really support any particular driver or team, I have a soft spot Ferrari and McLaren still from those days. Thought i’d mention my allegiances before people accuse me of being on one side or the other 😅
I was a Schumacher fan too as a Brit and I don't like Russel or Norris. Guilty-by-association of being British is a fallacy called, "association fallacy", and unfortunately it would seem a lot of non-British in these comment sections, just don't have a very high IQ when it comes to critical thinking and logical reasoning. It will be because there is also a lot of haters of the British, which I have noticed a lot. After all Sky are just some money-grabbers, they don't represent the British except as one tiny group of people. I also enjoyed channel 4's coverage until Sky bought them out and now we pretty much only get the British Grandprix live.
@ yeah man, the Sky coverage just doesn’t quite cut it.
Yeah I get the vibe we’re like the 2nd most hated, which I find ironic considering all the years of Ferrari International Assistance and all those other periods of the FIA having no preference to French teams and drivers at all lol
13:21 bold of you to assume the boogeyman and Helmut Marko aren't the same thing 😂😂😂
Petition to raise $1B (cost of broadcasting rights) and put RPM as the commentator and investigaytive journalist
ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY NOT
*DISGUSTING🤯!!!*
Ew
Would much rather have some random French guy speak baguette than that dude
@@SeshvirSeodutt Baguette hell outta here!
Even Adrian Newey said there is British bias.
But thou shallest not mentioneth that. British bias is so clear.
I am still concerned about your opinion on the Red Flag after Stroll crashed in qualifying.. yes he was trying to get back to the pits.. but the FIA have footage.. they would have seen that that car was in the wall with a broken wheel.. and didn't Perez get a penalty for driving his broken Red Bull to the pits in Canada? That was a broken rear wing though so i would imagine that trying to do that with 3 wheels would have been an even harder task.. so that red flag came WAY too late.. it is not about if Max made it or not.. but rather safety.. just like the sprint race.. they were driving at racing speed... passed Nico.. who was 3 meters OUT OF THE CAR away from the race track. This didn't only look rigged.. it was unsafe. About the aborted start.. breaching this.. should not and actually.. is NOT a 5000 dollar fine... that should have been either a grid penalty... or what the regulations actually say..
A Drive Through or a straight up Stop and Go Penalty. (A stop and go is different from a normal penalty. You get let's say 10 seconds.. you have to pit and serve it within 3 laps else you will get a black flag) let alone that breaching an aborted start is worth less of a punishment than swearing.
This was just a full on shit show from the FIA.
And wittich paid for it.
Praying for a Drugovich citation/inclusion in the upcoming Stroll video.
I personally really hate how the FIA works since Charlie Whiting's passing. Just for laughs and giggles, during races, my dad and I are trying to come up with the most absurd ideas, what the FIA could do this time either to benefit the british drivers (or rather just Hamilton or Norris) or just anything else completely idiotic and it's not uncommon that it actually happens afterwards. (if someone wants to mention Abu Dhabi 2021, go look at all the other decisions that season, which instead tried to decide the season in favor of Hamilton.. it's pointless to have this discussion, when it's a single example against dozens or possibly even hundreds)
But what I find even more infuriating than the FIA's decisions are the british media. Of course, the italian media are gonna favor Ferrari, german media are gonna favor german drivers and so on, but when there is the official F1 TV meant for a global audience, all the highlights on youtube are from the british commentary and so on, then it's simply not acceptable to have such biased commentators and "experts", like Croft, Brundle or Kravitz.
Just to give an example on how ridiculously biased the british commentators are - when Vettel was winning the championship, but it was very close - I believe this was in 2012, Brundle said that the most important person wasn't Vettel, but that it was Adrian Newey, who was the main reason behind the success, even though Webber, the second redbull, wasn't even in the top 5 in the championship and Alonso, on a Ferrari, was just a few points behind Vettel, but Vettel was just way too good then (as a lifelong Ferrari fan I was gutted, but nobody can deny, that prime Vettel was insane good). But when it was Hamilton winning in all those seasons when Mercedes had both cars 20 seconds ahead of everyone else and second place in the championship had more than a 50 point gap in front of third place, all the british commentators were glazing Hamilton so hard I would cringe anytime I'd hear it.
Not even mentioning their awful knowledge of the rules and many other aspects of the sport - when I compare it to my local media (Czech + Slovak), it's just insane how incomparable the insight, knowledge and overall overview is. For example now in Brazil, when the start was aborted, the british commentary simply went with what they saw and didn't even realise that there was something wrong, when Norris just went off on a yellow light, while my local commentators immediately picked up on this and explained the rules thoroughly on what happened, why it's wrong, what should've been done and what are the possible outcomes. And this is just one of many examples of the british commentators being completely clueless.
Because of what I listed above, I believe that F1 should have different commentators for the global broadcast, youtube highlights and simply all the content not meant for only the british, than they have now (unless the other commentary mentioned in this video as an alternative is actually unbiased, I've never heard it) and maybe keep the current staff for TeamLH. When I paid for F1 TV for a few months, I just had to mute the commentary, because Croft, Brundle and the other guys are just insufferable, especially when I was used to the high quality local commentary and later decided to rather pay 3x the cost of F1 TV just to get back the local commentary.
PS: Who remembers the Sky Sports Merry Christmas video from 2021?
Huh? I have F1 tv and I get fair English commentary. By Alex Jaques, James Hincliffe, Jolyon Palmer, Ruth Buscombe and others. I’m in the Netherlands.
@ Okay, then I must’ve missed a way to switch to that, as I always got just the Brundle crap. At least that’s positive, if that commentary is any better, however it still doesn’t change a thing about the youtube highlights and other social media content sadly still being with the awful commentary.
100% spot on
Brundle who freely admits that out of anyone on the grid he'd want a beer with it's Max. Nothing wrong with that, but let's not pretend he's pro British. In Belgium "what about Max Verstappen, he hasn't had a magic carpet ride this year".
"That MERCEDES is flying". Not Lewis. Think people see what they want to see and every since the sky boycott they've had red bull and Horner on all the time and hardly say a bad word against them or Max. Always on about Max and went on a gush fest in Brazil. Biggest Max fans are Karun (who's been seen cheering for Max) and Brundle.
Saying "but Dutch/Italian/Spanish/insert country media are biased" is the biggest cop out of the highest order. It's plain whataboutism. An excuse, and it does not negate the fact that there IS British bias in the global coverage of F1, not to mention the conflicts of interest in F1 stewarding. Dutch, Italian, Spanish or whoever aren't the *_the main official EXCLUSIVE global broadcasters for the entire English speaking world._* They aren't the ones who make up the majority of the press corps who go to every race around the world, fill every press conference, make up the majority of every press pen, roam every paddock, ask all the questions and get close access to the teams and personnel. No, it's British media and SkyF1.
Good points well made. Always enjoy your videos. Dont sell yourself short by calling a logical, practical view and opinions that accurately reflect the reality of the situation 'fence-sitting'. Most of the time, I find reality to be somewhere in the middle rather than at one or the other extreme ;)
British bias is not necessarily preferring your own driver. All national media do that. However, a significant portion of the British media tends to portray the opponents of British championship contenders as very evil. It happened to Schumacher, Vettel and Alonso too. The Dutch media is extremely biased towards Verstappen, but they respect a Hamilton or Norris. A part of the British press doesn't. Even in Brazil, several British journalists couldn't praise Verstappen without bringing up Mexico every time. I understand (but don't approve) "fans" doing it, but the media doing that too is a British thing and it is very annoying.
As for the steward's decisions, they were kinda weird. Maybe not entirely intentional, but we know FIA wants to keep the tension. And the comments on drivers on commercial platforms are just weird. Tom Bellingham compared it to football, when a referee makes a controversial decision in a World Cup final and then sings the praises of the winning team afterward. That would never happen. It's just not professional and gives it at least the appearance of bias. Yeah, there should be paid, professional stewards, from all over the world.
Comment on this video specifically: 1:30 How do you mean messed up? And lives are at stake? That is such an overexaggeration. With those runoffs there was no danger, that is why they were doing it. Yes, Max was by far most at fault. But Lando wasn't even trying to go through those corners cleanly, he braked way too late. If he had done it that the same way without Verstappen there he would have gone off too. Neither of them was racing clean. I am not blaming Lando, I admired it. You need to do that when racing Verstappen. Lando was just doing it smarter, which is why Verstappen got the penalties. That honestly impressed me, I didn't think he had it in him. But then the British press villainizes Verstappen while presenting Lando as a saint, not just after that race, but in Brazil too. That is British bias.
I'm English and live in the Netherlands. There's Dutch bias on the Dutch media for F1, loads of it. The difference is SKY and F1 TV are meant to be the international broadcasters, not the partisan UK broadcaster. They get mixed up in that.
Can you also name a Dutch steward who is linked to a raceteam?
Been watching F1 since the 80's and I have watched it in three different languages. In my experience there's no contest, the British commentators always feel the need to put non-British drivers and teams down. They seem to always build this narrative were Senna or Shumacher or Alonso or Vettel were the antagonists. As a kid I even bought into it for a while. As an adult and with all the choices we have now, if Croft starts getting on my nerves I just switch to another language and it's cool and usually pretty objective and balanced. But not everyone can do that. I'm not saying British commentators should have no opinions or be biased, what I and sooooo many others are saying is this is a Global Sport and they are commentating to the World not just British viewers. The Spanish feed in ESPN is very good and incredibly balanced, it can be done!
awesome video intro, netflix quality, probably even better, subscribed 👍
Can't wait for the RPM video on Brazil GP
The Boogieman Verstappen is back poor little Norris
Beautiful memories of the strong "anti-british mafia sentiment" Kubica fans had in 2019 with Williams and Russell
I don’t think it’s a so called “British bias” necessarily. More a popularity bias.
It seems like SkySportsF1 hero-worship Lewis and Lando but seem happy to criticise George for every little detail.
For Lewis, I can understand it. He’s a 7x WDC. But with Lando he’s not better than George. And yet they seem to act like Lando is one of the greatest drivers of all time.
Lando has shown me how great a driver Hamilton actually is. Not that I didn't know that before, but Lewis in that McLaren would've had at least 5-6 wins this year no question. Which makes it that more annoying that they build up a title fight that doesn't exist.
@@ImRivendill honestly, same. Lando has shown me that Lewis is and has been exceptional at the front.
@@ImRivendill Not just Lewis, but George too. He’s been incredible this season. Either one of them would have multiple wins, potentially would be leading the championship in that McLaren.
The only time Lando and George raced in equal machinery (F2) I believe George won.
@ Russell didn’t just win. He absolutely decimated Norris. In F2, George won by 68 points with seven wins to Lando’s one win (at the first race of the season). Norris was closer to 5th than to Russell in 1st. 😬
Also Lando finished with only seven points more than Alex Albon (who had a very unlucky season tbh). And only seventeen more points than Nyck De Vries.
It was an absolutely decisive victory from George.
A great video mate
Crofty and Brundle, especially Bundle usually are fine and offer pretty good insight. It’s mainly everyone else. Mainly Ted Kravitz…
Josh nailed it, we all have our perceived bias' in what we favour. It certainly comes across the Sky F1 broadcasts that they get what us Aussie's call a "chubby" over the British drivers, but that's something I would expect from a British based broadcaster, who primary audience is firstly the British who pay for Sky. Let's not forget that this isn't new, not by any means. I can recall Murray Walker, as great as many of us believe him to be, was openly the leader of the Nigel Mansell, and Damon Hill fan clubs.
Murray was a big fan of Schumacher. Called him the GOAT, even above Jim Clark.
Exactly Sky are paying £200m a season for the rights to broadcast in the UK & Ireland they are not paying to be a international feed. If Dutch was the 'lingua franca' of the F1 watching world then Viaplay comms would be going around the world alongside F1TV and we'd be seeing huge complaints about Dutch bias.
There's lots to fault Murray on... but there's always going to be enthusiasm for 'the challenger'... and there probably should be. I can't fault Murray on that. Though perhaps lucky that those two weren't competing for the title in following years. ;)
While true that everyone has some bias, F1TV has British commentators and they're actually really good. They don't show bias, just objectively and passionately reporting on what's happening. It's unironically great.
I’d have nothing against them being biased on the British Feed. However if you live in America and just watch the races on TV you get the sky broadcast.
They are broadcast to a lot of people not in Britain. And it gets annoying listening to them glaze the British drivers and hate on others.
11:49 Dick Seamen?
It was a different time.
I don't really understand why people say George Russell is a Jude Law clone when he looks scarily like Saoirse Ronan.
With a splash of Kenneth Williams mixed in 😂
He looks more like Woody from Toy Story to me.
@@Kuromori-v9z THAT TOO!
Dude your writing and production value is amazing
I have no idea if this would work in practice, but I've had a theory on what 'might' be a way to at least reduce any potential bias. Use 4 stewards per race the however only 2 of those stewards have full coverage of the race the same as now; the other 2 stewards stay in a separate room where the room is essentially blank so they have no coverage of the race. Whenever an incident occurs, the regular 2 stewards view the issue as normal. With the other 2 stewards. they are given footage of the same incident however the footage has been altered (likely needing the help of AI I would reckon) so that the involved cars are basically painted/blocked over in one colour so there is no easy way to discern which car or team it belongs to. They then judge the incident separately, and if there is any discrepancy between both sets of stewards then they must come to a compromise
There is another option in Britain Josh, Radio
BBC Radio 5 Live has the commentary of Ben Edwards alongside usually either Jolyon Palmer or Alice Powell, Ben is at least on par with Alex plus the insights of either Jolyon or Alice are excellent
British Bias has existed WELL before the Netflix era began. Brundle was the worst for it in the 2000s, especially with Button and Hamilton. He was even touting Ant Davidson as a future WDC when he scored points for the first time.
@@goodshipkaraboudjan if you look up one of Ross Brawn's podcast on the F1 channel, he mentioned this specifically. He said that you could see Brundle's resentment in his commentary towards Schumacher, contributing it to their history as teammates at Benetton (probably because Schumacher beat him and was the first driver at that team). This coming from Brawn should say enough.
F1TV>>>>>>>>>>Sky
Agreed. I miss Sky (it’s the former BBC) pre race coverage. But I’ll do anything to not have to listen to Croft.
Lance Strolls stuff in the formation lap was just gold. I laughed so hard...
Such a good video! I think it's safe to say that a lot of people are aware of the bias and it's something that won't really go away
There is british bias. Not just fans says this. F1 people say this. Sometimes in rulling, sometimes in the news cycle. Old and current drivers, people in the know, f1 journalist and even newey have stated this. And if you look at many more rulings this year. You can see it clearly.
Like perez who was just a bit over the line and got a penalty. But a false start dud not.
This video is bad. You are talking things down, and saying that its mostly just silly feelings. Its not.
Like i said before, f1 journalist, old team workers in the paddock, old racers, people like max, alonso etc have said it. Newey who is in the sport for longer then many people who are watching this video.
Other example: when checo got team orders , people cried how about bad this was. The british press went after rbr. Mclaren eho said they never will do it. Just did it again. No one responds.
Or about cheating. They clearly Said mclarens back wing was illegal. Yet no goes after mclaren. While rbr and other teams get grilled if they even think they do something illegal. Take pitstops on 2021.
So there is bias. Must say, normally love you video's. But it was very biased this time.
I agree. It can also be British bias (though in a lesser form) if it's an anti-Max bias.
FFS a video on British bias (which is obvious) created by ………. I rest my case
let's no forget Paul De Resta (a BRITISH driver) when he was on the f1 sky team was incredibly biased towards verstappen and red bull when they were battling with hamilton and mercedes... let's not forget that
Paul di Resta, aka RocketPoweredMohawk's worst nightmare. Honestly, the only reason he doesn't talk about him as much is because Lance Stroll already makes up a lot of his videos 😂
@@Ricky911_ Pual di Resta, aka THE DEVIL HIMSELF!
De Resta was a Junior in a harder Kart series , at the time Hamilton was given his own, easier, Junior Karting Formula sponsored by Mercedes
Herbert has made himself impossible in F1
We need a team of dedicated stewards without links, friendships or loyalties to either teams or drivers. The same team at every race. They don't mingle, can't be ambassadors of clocks, watches or liquor and keep to themselves. No bias, no gifts but equal rules and regulations for every driver.
I'm not mad at Max for his controversial defending. He is having to battle the FIA as well as favouritism and bias. He is giving it his all. (This is coming from a Brit.) Lando is good but is he good because of the influential bias? We shall see.
It's more clear than ever that the races are getting won in the board room.
Also Ferrari don't need to be the best team. They are paid to be in F1 and have the protection of the brand that makes people devide over the team. (Ferrari rant over.)
Max was handed a World Championship in Abu Dhabi, he can never complain about the stewards ever
@@tytyhull The stewards had nothing to do with that. It was all down to 'The Massive.'.
stewards deliberately misinterpreted the wording of the regulations to uphold the result. Merc decided not to appeal simply because they didn't want to destroy the credibility of F1. Most sports lawyers agree that Merc could have got the result voided if it had gone to CAS. But the reputational damage to F1 would have been fatal and ultimately would not have helped because Max would have still won on countback. I would be surprised if the has been significant compensation paid to Merc after what happened.
It is just the same thing as 1994 again with the FIA and stewards disregarding their own rules and precedents to DQ Schumacher over and over so they could manufacture a title fight with Hill and then everyone getting surprised when Schumacher went all in to fight back. I hate how much of the 94 season has been completely rewritten by years of British press propaganda. Go back and watch the races on archive websites. Michael was having to fight the entire sporting organization and their business politics that season. It was insanity. Now everyone is getting a taste of that with Max vs the FIA stewards this season.
I think you mean Lando and not Lance😂
0:36 if Norris dive bomb max the British say it’s was pure skill meanwhile if Max dive bomb Norris and that Norris don’t have skill to defend and just only go out. The British bias say that was penalty.
We all know biriths is only talk and do bad think behind the curtain just like they do with Hamilton for many year with battle against vettel and max
Note that the red flags were purely at the remit of the race director who was, obviously, not British.
Overall I think while Johnny Herbert may not have been biased, his reactions to the controversy have not helped him in the slightest, especially as how Josh said, he defended himself by saying "these two people who directly benefitted from the decision also agreed" (I honestly hope to god he was drunk when he said that as a joke)
Excuse me, respectfully, but how can you say he may not have been biased and follow up with that?
@@SuicidalSheep Because I'm wondering about the context of the quote and why he said it, because no sane person would have said that as it makes no sense
Herbert have been publicly biased multiple times, before and after he's become a steward. He's also affiliated with a sports GAMBLING site. Saying he can't be biased is absolutely ridiculous, sorry.
I’m happy someone brought this out. It’s hard to listen to sky sports when there’s so much bias and I thought it was because form a small, poor country and suffered from racism makes me a bit upset to listen someone take sides when they are supposed to just comment and narrate what is happening in the race.
very good video :) As a psychology student for a decade, I have always said there IS bias, wether we acknowledge it or not. It's how humans function.
Crofty and brundle are the reason I switched to f1 tv, and Ted is one of the worst