I'd love to see them allow drivers to talk to each other on the radio. Is it a good or safe idea for the performance on-track? Almost certainly not, but it would be great television!
Lmao it's not like a top team was going for him either way. At best he'd have ended up at Sauber or Alpine. Alpine is a bad seat to have either way because that team will most likely be sold.
At the end of the day Honda is what got him into F1, kept him in it longer than most RB driver last…and in the end Honda leaving is what’s keeping him out imo. Hence why they’ve always thought he’s not that guy.
Yuki should have been promoted because he is more disposable than Liam. There is a very big chance Liam's career will take the same trajectory as Alex and Pierre's. If this happens, he will be lucky to have a drive in 2026. Yuki is more experienced, and RB already know they don't want to keep him, so either he has an ok year against Max or he drowns while Liam gets the experience he needs to grow into his promotion for 2026.
Valid, but from the Yuki perspective, if Liam does drown hard like Pierre, Albon and 2024 Checo. He's probably in the car for the 2nd half of the year, knowing he's losing his seat, he'll have nothing to lose but everything to prove so if he could do better, he could be in the RB in 2026
I mean he is really only there because of Honda, and very likely to go to aston in 2026. Why bother giving a seat to an experienced guy you know is going to leave instead of a rookie who could burst out (or, at least, not straight up lose you the WCC)?
@@alfie5371 Let’s be honest. RBR would rather promote Hadjar in a 2016 Verstappen manner than even considering Yuki. Man the disrespect he has to endure is crazy, I just hope he finds a better drive in 2026
No, he was moved up to appease Honda. But when Honda played the old "Its not you, its me" card and left RB to hook up with AM. Yuki became the old T-Shirt that Honda left behind when they moved out. I'd expect him to be driving for AM as soon as Alonso remembers how old he is
There’s no way AM would replace a world champion with Tsunoda. They won’t win anything with a Tsunoda Stroll driver lineup. They will either bid for Hamilton once he leaves Ferrari, or try to somehow get Max, Russell, Lando or Leclerc.
Hahahah Yuki and Lance is a line up waiting to fumble championships. Max could have this year’s mercedes and AM this year’s McLaren and he would still win the wdc against those two. No if AM get the fastest car and Alonso quits, all targets will be on either Max or Lewis
@@paperplane-db8qfThe Strulovitch family can't keep Lance there forever. They only own ~20% of the team. The other shareholders are bound to run out of patience soon now that their car is actually capable of fighting beyond the midfield.
god I hope RB never win a title with Max again. Toto isn't perfect but he actually does support his team/drivers, Bottas/Ocon/Russell have been treated fairly, Toto didn't stop til Bottas had a plan post Merc. Horner dropped Albon/Gasly midseason, kept Checo for (OMG IT'S BEEN!!) 4 years! and is now signing another rookie over a more experienced young Yuki. Credit to RB, they've had a strong academy but the past few years the decisions have truly been baffling.
My issue with the "Let's give some perspective" arguments is no one ever mentions that Liam had a way newer engine than Yuki. So that hundredth there or tenth here would be a lot more if they had equal engines.
I think to explain Christian Horner‘s perspective best, you’ve got to think about the fact that it took Liam very very little time at all to match (relatively speaking) Yuki, whereas Yuki‘s start in 2021 was much rougher and took a lot longer to settle in, and what the team needs is a driver that can very quickly just get into that Red Bull and be on it. TLDR: Liam‘s immediate pace shows more potential for the future than Yuki’s, considering the smaller timeframe and lack of experience
Yuki Fanboys - Getting destroyed by Gasly across 2 seasons doesn’t count because he was new into F1 Also Yuki Fanboys - Yuki deserves the seat because he barely beat a rookie Liam across the 10 races he’s competed in
Even if that was true, it'd be smarter to move Yuki up first. Now, Liam has to do what basically every other driver has failed to do - and if he doesn't cut it, his career is probably over before it really begins. Sergio Perez was an amazing driver when he went to RB, way better than Liam, look at how that turned out. You have to have an insane amount of confidence in Liam
Yes... and next year he'll be bumped out of the Red Bull program entirely when Arvid Lindblad moves up. Well, if he performs how I expect him to anyway.
Bloody hells, you actually pronounce the つ in Tsunoda correctly! It really feels nice to hear after hearing 80~90% of F1 commentators call him Sunoda over and over again 😢
The Brits are famous for butchering any name out there. To me it feels like a lack of professionalism but to them its the norm. Sky's: Leclerk is a great example...
@@Jef_VermassenIt's worse here in Brazil; they get the difficult names right, but I've heard "Ricciardo" as both "Ritchy-ardo" and as "Rikardo" in the same race (forgot which one) and Checo is often called "Sérgio Pên!s" by accident ;-;
@@Jef_Vermassen Imagine if the Brits were as sensitive as everyone else when it comes to people mispronouncing their language. The whole world would grind to a halt.
Everyone seems to forget, Liam has done 11 GP’s. Yuki has done 91. There’s really nothing between them currently pace wise. Liam hasn’t done any pre-season testing, has been racing on tracks he’s never raced on, has had zero development input into the car. Yet despite all this is essentially on par with a drive who has 80 more GP’s than them. So why would they give Yuki a seat? We all know doing your time is meaningless in F1
The fact that Liam was only 0.1 away in qualy, having no experience in F1 and close on some tracks he has never raced before, in a car that he hasnt set up yet to suit his style, shows his talent and potential is way above what yuki would be. Yuki is okay, at best. But has 4 years experience on liam who was keeping up on average.
Marko is at risk of for a 4th time not learning from his mistakes. Kvyat came in after one season, didn’t drown but not good enough. Gasly after 1 1/3 seasons, Drowned. Albon after half a season, not good enough. Now Lawson after 2 1/3s of a season.. If he drowns Marko needs to leave Red Bull, if tsunoda came in and drowned, at least we knew he had experience and didn’t have what it took.
@ Marko will become the scape goat, he’s the head of the junior driver programme after all, Horner has more influence, he can deflect the blame on Marko.
I feel like if you hate swearing so much, Sport is by far the LAST thing you should be watching. High strung Athletes in High Stress situations? Not really sure what else was there to expect.
Wouldn't surprise me if Yuki gets a Honda IndyCar seat for Road and Street courses with Sato taking the ovals until Yuki is ready to do those too. He recent tested an IndyCar for a Honda promo at Thermal I think. In the meantime he will be Aston Reserve on Indy off weekends like Pato is doing. It wouldn't surprise me either if he picks up either Alonso's or Lance's seat at some point though. Honda wants to make sure they can keep attracting Japanese talent and showing them they have a road to the show. The battle between them and Toyota for top tier talent is real, and one of the reasons Honda had good young Japanese drivers is because of the F1 link. With Toyota taking on it's Haas partnership this Honda advantage is now gone and they still need to prove they can put good drivers in good seats.
@jpaior 30 cars? Well, here is my dream 15 teams (also not practical, too): 1) 🇦🇹 Red Bull 2) 🇬🇧 McLaren 3) 🇮🇹 Ferrari 4) 🇩🇪 Mercedes-AMG 5) 🇫🇷 Renault 6) 🇩🇪 BMW 7) 🇬🇧 Aston Martin 8) 🇮🇹 AlphaTauri 9) 🇬🇧 Williams 10) 🇩🇪 Audi 11) 🇩🇪 Porsche 12) 🇯🇵 Honda 13) 🇯🇵 Toyota 14) 🇫🇷 Peugeot 15) 🇺🇸 Cadillac Alternative version if "only" 13 teams: 1) 🇦🇹 Red Bull 2) 🇬🇧 McLaren 3) 🇮🇹 Ferrari 4) 🇩🇪 Mercedes-AMG 5) 🇫🇷 Renault 6) 🇩🇪 Audi 7) 🇬🇧 Aston Martin 8) 🇮🇹 AlphaTauri 9) 🇬🇧 Williams BMW 🇩🇪 10) 🇩🇪 Porsche 11) 🇯🇵 Honda 12) 🇯🇵 Toyota 13) 🇺🇸 Cadillac
Completely disagree. F1 is a meritocracy and it should be extremely special to get a seat. (Unless daddy buys you one) There's 4 complete rookies in the 2025 grid and 2 more that haven't even completed a half seasons worth of races. If there were 30 cars on the grid you'd be hoping for 40 so that the 6th place guy in F2 and the 2nd place in Indycar got a chance boohoo.
Precisely why they won’t give him the seat. They can’t afford to have two hot heads clashing with each other. Not about “we can’t handle Yuki” it’s about “we can’t handle the two of them bickering”
Liam destroyed Yuki when he first got in the car a few years back. This year Yuki should have been much faster. Add in how good Liam has been in every situation that hes stepped in and acceled. Its clear Liam should be the RB driver.
I dont really think either he or Liam are good enough for the seat. Yuki did beat every one of his teammates, so if it was gonna be anyone from the side-team it should've been him, but at the end of the day his achievements still havent been all that impressive to say it warrants a seat in a title challenging team. I think RedBull should've went for Carlos, but they fumbled on that oppertunity.
Yuki got destroyed by Gasly. In all fairness if we go based on pure performance Yuki shouldn't even have been in F1 past his first season, he even said so himself he was surprised they kept him on for 2022. There is a reason the rookie of the year award went to an F2 driver (oscar) instead of him. He had a stinker of a season and the only reason they kept him on was because of Honda.
What you said at the end makes perfect sense and after all this drama, I also came to the same conclusion" anyone that faces Max seemingly is doomed to fail. At least Yuki gets to stay in the RB family as the lead driver on a team. And like you mentioned, if Lawson crashes and burns halfway through, Yuki might be the one to replace him; they honestly don't have many options left because their entire system is messed up.
I'm probably one of the few who's happy yuki wasn't given the seat. For as much talent Lawson has, I don't think rb will give him the support needed to fully extract it and he'll end up like the rest before him
If I'm not wrong, Only Sebastian Vettel and Max Verstappen completed a full season with RB's junior team, then they were promoted to senior team and got success. I'm not sure about Ricciardo and Kvyat, but for the rest of them, their story wasn't as same as Vettel and Max. (Correct me if I'm wrong)
3:34 MBS has entered the chat. Also those people who say Liam isn't mature, he flipped the bird, needs to learn that flipping the bird while driving is as common to kiwis as aussies saying the c word
That second RB seat is cursed lol. Nobody survives. You either thrive like Vettel, Ricky, or Max and get bumped up into the number 1 seat....or you drown like Perez, Albon, Gasly or Kvyat.
Only reason Tsunoda even got into F1 was because of Honda's connection and that's also the only reason why he stayed as long as he did. In those 4 years, he made only slight improvements and only looked good because his teammates either underperformed badly (Ricciardo) or were just straight up bad (De Vries). If he is actually good enough, other team will pick him for 2026. If not, he at least had longer run than many drivers get. As for Lawson, he was trimmed for Red Bull seat for a while. That's why he was sent to DTM and Super Formula (AKA actually competitive senior series) and did well in both of them. He was also Red Bull's test driver for years and his substitute performances were, while not great, perfectly serviceable. Now, is he ready for Red Bull seat? I still have my doubts and I think that he could have used a full year in Toro Rosso (or whatever it's called now), but Red Bull screwed up by first giving seat to De Vries (based on single race performance) and then Ricciardo who they kept for another year. If not for those blunders, Lawson would have had 2 full seasons under his belt and it would be clearly seen how he stacks up against other drivers. As it is, it's anyone's guess what will happen next. I do hope that he does well and has similar year to Piastri's 2023 season. So yes - Red Bull did screw up but not in the way most people would say.
To be fair, lets not forget that VCARB also did absolutely arse on the pit strats. Even when either driver did great, like Imola for instance, it got tossed into the wind the moment they entered the pitlane.
De Vries is overhated a bit. He struggled at the start but was beating Yuki before he got sacked. If you look at averege grid position and race results Nycks are better than Yuki's. He just had bad luck that car was the worst on the grid and Yuki scored more points than him, but that is like saying Kubica beat Russell cause he did get a point and Russell didn't. Fact is Nyck was also still a rookie and Yuki had way more F1 experience. Nyck was performing on a similar level as Ricciardo. Which yes wasn't good enough but the only reason he was sacked was because Red Bull expected him to be an immediate performer and weren't interested in giving him time to develop.
@@PanBami2023 What tf are you talking about? First of all De Vries isn’t overhated. He was criticised for underperforming based on everyone giving him high expectations of being the team leader. Second of all, l don’t think we were watching the same season last year because you’re literally talking bullshit. De Vries clearly doesn’t have the better or highest average grid position than Tsunoda. I just calculated it and it shows that Tsunoda has the better average grid position of 13.9 while De Vries has 16.9. De Vries doesn’t even have the better results either. Tsunoda literally outqualified and outraced De Vries by 8-2 or outqualified him by 80% furthermore De Vries did not have bad luck. He underperformed in the worst car. He made a mistake by making contact with a barrier resulting in his wheel coming off in Azerbaijan Also don’t compare the Tsunoda-De Vries situation to the Kubica-Russell situation in 2019. There’s a difference. First off the 2019 Williams was a 100 times worse than the 2023 Alpha Tauri because at least the Alpha Tauri was capable of scoring points on occasions whereas Williams in 2019 scored a point in 1 race which was Germany because that race was chaotic. Second, Kubica was ahead of Russell in the standings but the standings don’t tell the whole story. Russell was the better driver and he absolutely destroyed Kubica in the qualifying and race sessions in a car that was very difficult to score points with. Kubica scored a point by luck while Russell couldn’t whereas with Tsunoda and De Vries, Tsunoda was ahead of De Veries in the standings of 2023 because Tsunoda has the better results and he was the one scoring points for the team while De Vries was struggling. That was due to the Alpha Tauri sometimes capable of scoring points. Finally, De Vries clearly wasn’t on a similar to Ricciardo in terms of going against Tsunoda. At least Ricciardo was matching Tsunoda whereas De Vries was obliterated by Tsunoda. Again you don’t know what you’re talking about and this excuse of Red Bull sacking De Vries because they expected him to perform immediately doesn’t really work when Lawson, in his first 5 races last year, performed well against Tsunoda despite being extremely lucky. I suggest you watch last year’s season again
yuki beat a formula e champion and f2 champion as well as an experienced 8 time race winner and past his second season he was much closer to gasly and he would have beat him if alpha tauris rear wing didn't break
I know media is one thing and drivers use it to build their own brand, but Yuki to me always seems like racing isn’t his no.1. Talking about opening a restaurant, his radio attitude not developing, to me at least it’s pretty clear that for a while he wouldn’t get that promotion
How has Yuki proven himself? By throwing tantrum after tantrum? By getting involved in many accidents? By Red Bull having to hire a coach to help him with his anger management? Yuki Tsunoda ONLY got that position because HONDA wanted him there. When Honda walked away from F1, that meant Yuki would have to prove himself on his own merits and he didn't succeed in doing that. Yes, he has calmed down somewhat and yes, he now consistently puts in decent performances, but Yuki no longer has Honda backing and thus doesn't bring anything into Red Bull. And you can't even argue that he didn't get a fair chance, because he has been with Red Bull for more years than other rookie drivers, who sometimes didn't even get a single season to prove themselves.
@@tjroelsma You literally just said Tsunoda throws tantrums and hasn’t proved himself and then you contradict yourself saying that Tsunoda has calmed down and put in decent performances. Make up your mind.
@@tjroelsma Look at his scorenboard, look at his teammates and their respective results. Yuki did _very_ well against all his teammates up to this point, including Lawson. Had Lawson put out a mind-blowing performance, I'd see things differently, but so far, I've not seen anything that'd make me expect him to perform that well. He had squabbles with Perez at the start, had nay of those situations happened with Yuki, you'd list them as reasons why Yuki isn't up to snuff I am sure. Be that as it may, Yuki has done well these past years and he's being ignored in favor of, let's face it, a total nobody, that doesn't even perform any better than Yuki. This alone is reason enough for me to not support RB next season. It's a fucking slap in the face.
@@h.a.9880why are you ignoring that rookie Yuki got obliterated by Gasly across two seasons but somehow him barely beating a rookie Lawson is massively in his favour?
He wasn't screwed, his temper would've broken him after 5 minutes of getting destroyed by Max. Also he never was a RB driver but a side deal forced upon them by Honda
So nice hearing and reading folks give Tsunoda the love he has earnt, he has truly turned into something worthy of an upper team seat. Here's to Antonelli flopping next year and him somehow ending up with Mercedes haha.
That lunge in Bahrain cooldown against DR was the final nail. I imagine no one at the main team would have wanted that along Max. He already wont keep up with Max, why add the jeopardy he might take your main driver out when he gets told to move out of the way. But RB also snaked him by extending his contract denying him a chance to move.
He wasn't. RedBull openly stated that Yuki is currently the faster but the mentally weaker driver. And as seen with Gasly, Albon and Perez they need someone who is mentally resilient in the second seat. All those drivers are pretty good but crumbled under the pressure at RedBull. Tsunoda would be no different. Also his gap to Lawson is pretty small when taking into account that he has 8x the experience in F1.
Its nice to see that someone finally gets it. Yuki should have destroyed Liam and become the leader of RB but its really close between them with Yuki having 4 seasons worth of experience as Lawson only has what, 10 races?
Lawson’s mental strength is probably his best aspect. He has to put up with a lot in the past few years, overlooked for de Vries, the DTM farce where he was battling for a title, and being given just 6 races to earn a contract
Good job like always Josh! It is hard to make content without offending people, and i think netflix destroyed the sport, even though it have more people watching it. rational thinking is rare now, even though u made perfect sense in video, people will still complain. RB have analysis, they have so many championships under their belt, and ppl acting like they don't know what they are doing.
Liam's race craft is far superior already. The way he fights is great, he's not at all hesitant to make his moves no matter who it's against, whereas Yuki might not even attempt to make a move
For me, it’s simple. Yuki has become good in 4 years and around 90 races, Liam is overall, almost matching him in just 11 races. Plus, Liam has tested for Red Bull, he’s been their sim driver too, directly helping with car development so he should know how to get close to the ceiling of an actual Red Bull car. To summarise, Red Bull have invested a lot in Liam since his junior days and is likely to have a higher ceiling than Yuki, so I can see why they went for him.
Finally!!!! A vid! I think the whole Honda situation is why they didn't promote Yuki. They could've done a split year between them to see. It's one big family, so they could. Then use that as a guide post for 26
It's wild to remember that just a little over 2 years ago Lawson was apparently no better than 4th on their list for the AlphaTauri seat. DeVries was the backup plan because Marko REALLY wanted Colton Herta, but couldn't get the FIA to agree to a waiver. Then DeVries pooped the bed and they put in Ricciardo, who subsequently got hurt and Lawson got a handful of races in until Daniel healed. Daniel didn't exactly poop the bed the way DeVries did, but he was thoroughly underwhelming and Lawson got a few more races in at the end of this past season. Now DeVries, Ricciardo and Perez are out of F1, Lawson is in the 2nd Red Bull seat and there's a decent chance Herta is in F1 in 2026 with Cadillac.
I sometimes feel that meeting Eddie Jordan is a bit like an out take from a 90s Gangster film. You don’t know how you got there, but as you slowly wake up you find yourself sat at a table with a half-drank Vodka surrounded by silhouettes, whilst he’s in the middle of telling you how Michael Schumacher moved to Benetton.
Personally I think Yuki was never going to get it because of how long it took to adapt in f1. He only stayed in the seat because of the Honda connection. He has become an amazing driver but being a red bull driver requires someone who can drive anything fast, something Liam has proven by stepping in and giving good accounts of himself. No, on last year he doesn't deserve it but his ceiling is higher than we've seen in his short tenures and he's demonstrated great adaptability (so less likely to drown in that second seat}
Hold up. You are letting recency bias of his final season distract you from the rest of his tenure at RB. Perez was 4th in the drivers championship his first year. 3rd in his second year and 2nd in his 3rd year. He wasn't floundering at all until his final season were even when he was running well he'd be taken out of the race.
People keep talking about being promoted from RB as if it was always about merit and that you had to earn promotion, Redbull has always taken the approach that unless you are inmediatly on the pace upon getting to their second team then you will not get a promotion, but Yuki had a crash full rookie year and it has taken 4 years for him to become a decent even though incosistent midfield driver, Lawson in comparison while hasn't beaten Yuki in head to head the average pace show that they are incredibly close, pair that with his mentality and Lawson becomes an obvious choice.
Correct. All of Vettel, Ricciardo, Kvyat, Verstappen, Gasly and Albon were promoted within their first 2 seasons, some of them after 1 season This isn’t new, this is literally how Red Bull have been run for the past 16 years lol
Two things went against him here 1) He got demolished by Gasly, someone already deemed not good enough. For everyone saying “it was only his first 2 seasons” Red Bull don’t care. They promoted Vettel after a season, Kvyat after a season, Max after a season, Gasly after a season, Albon after 12 races. In their eyes, talent shows itself right away 2) Bahrain 2024 was unacceptable and no top team puts up with that. After 3 seasons, when all the talk was that he changed, he improved his attitude. Instead he basically validated all the criticism after 1 race
It make sense, as you have said Liam can play team game, which is letting no1 driver go, even being same pace as Yuki. It shows them that Liam will have no issue being 2nd driver, Bottas like. And that is fair play for all of the parties, also giving Liam chance to shine.
I actually think the pressure of being Verstappens teammate would bring Uki to his ultimate maximum. But that'd also bring along a pushing over the limit sometimes
Blame RB's management. Them not backing their own rookies and messing with their own drivers is not a new thing. It's part of their brand identity at this point.
OMG Hilarious video. Loved that seeing some south park. Its a tough call they are both good drivers. I feel like Yuki's outbursts just stuck with the decision makers and really it sucks.
I agree with the sentiment that it would have made sense to give Yuki the Red Bull seat for 2025 in order for Liam to get more experience in F1, but if Red Bull is going to get rid of Yuki by the end of next year they may have felt that it wasn’t worth promoting him. It’s apparent that senior Red Bull management doesn’t like Yuki very much and he’s only there to placate Honda. In reality, I think it comes down to attitude and expectations. Liam will happily play a support role for Max for a couple of years whereas Yuki, having been in F1 for four years, may not be willing to do so. Yuki is probably more likely drive straight into Max by attempting overly aggressive overtakes in order to prove to Horner/Marko that he’s the real deal. Moreover, Max may just not want him as his teammate. The decision isn’t “fair” in the true sense of the word, but life isn’t fair either. So, Yuki is just going to have to get on with it and try to impress the other teams on the grid.
ok important to note here: the speculation whether Yuki would leave in 2025 is not that far off, Horner has said Yuki being in the junior team for so long is not a good sight
Tsunoda's been offering the sort of consistency from what I've seen that tells me that he deserves the seat until he loses it, unlike Horner. This comes across as a pretty shallow way to avoid giving the guy the seat. Also, Josh, if you're planning to wear a dress in a video, you need to do better at it than CDawgVA.
I think as well as the yuki Trojan horse thing their main concern is what if he does well in redbull as a future rival driver since Honda will be fords competitor. It just makes things look a little awkward when a future competitor does well in the top team
IMO it’s a lose lose for red bull Ever since they didn’t sign Sainz they don’t have any reliable options If they signed Yuki he’ll probably be quick but inconsistent If they signed Hadjar then that’d just be stupid And signing Lawson is already a risk cause in the little time he’s had he hasn’t blown the world away
He was not screwed over. This is RedBull, they screw themselves over again and again despite of the drivers. RB is as bad at decision-making as Putin is at geopolitics
Redbull doesn't need someone who is great right now. They need a next champion in 4-5 years when max retires. I think they will try to play the long game and really develop Liam. As long as he does okay for team points they are fine for now
With all the new Rookies, 2025 will be an exciting season, however with this strategy across all teams, the atrition rate will probably be high. Lots of pain and suffering. But as a strategy the potential benefits are high (Vettle, Piastri, Max etc) It will be interesting to see how much time and support each team gives their newbie's. I still like this strategy better than recycling the old guard that have fallen off their best.
As a motorsports fan, i wanna see more of a push for these high caliber drivers to go for the triple crown. F1 being the top regulations in the sport, in my opinion drivers shouldnt solely set their sights at a career in F1, but the top drivers in the world should be looking to be the best in every discipline a, win at Monaco, the Indy 500 and a win at the 24hours of Le Mans
I go with the theory that Yuki is a Honda pilot, and so prone to go to Aston Martin (or whatever name has then) if Aramco, Honda and Newey are able to force Lawrence to surrender his son seat at least.
Instead of being passed up for the senior team, I feel like there should be concern over the lack of hints that he’ll get a contract extension, saying as he’s been the majority contributor to their points standing these past few years
my view on the yuki situation is that it’s a bit disappointing in two different directions. Yuki came in as a pacey but flawed talent and he took a step the last part of 22 and in 2023 and 24 he’s been really impressive to me. i think that often too many f1 fans and pundits just reject the premise of any driver ever improving if they’re not a superstar talent, and yuki HAS gotten much better and consistent. is he a title contender? no, but that’s not what RB wants i think it’s fair to say. i think it’s a good showing for a “junior program” for a youngster to ply his trade and eventually get a shot, but im not mad at Liam for getting it or think he’s undeserving. I just worry there’s a chance RB has hurt two careers at once. We can see Yuki in a competent (on-track) team with good race operations, against the best measuring stick in the sport rn. We’d get to find out what Yuki really was if he was called up, and Liam gets more races to work on himself. I don’t think Liam’s ability will be able to be judged fairly in RB next season, but if he gets drubbed then he might flame out and so we miss out on both of their best forms.
Hadjar and Tsunoda combination on the radio will need a personal bleeper because it will literally be every 5 seconds
I know right
I'd love to see them allow drivers to talk to each other on the radio. Is it a good or safe idea for the performance on-track? Almost certainly not, but it would be great television!
@@alecerdmann8505
“Did you literally in the way, MOVE.”
“lool no”
FIA: "Please tell VCASHGRAB they are on community service all year" - probabaly
Tsunoda:
"*** **** **** *** * ****** ** * ****"
The biggest injustice is that Yuki was locked down without the chance to move towards the other teams that had interest in him.
The team needed him to stick around, they already knew they were firing both Ricciardo and Perez.
Lmao it's not like a top team was going for him either way. At best he'd have ended up at Sauber or Alpine. Alpine is a bad seat to have either way because that team will most likely be sold.
Yuki wouldn’t move up the grid anyway, it would be a gasly like move
@@PanBami2023 Yeah lmao, they're acting like he was getting the Mercedes or McLaren seat.
Which "other teams had interest in him"?
The tinfoil hat was amazing holy shit I was on the floor.
Aslo the PS1 start up sound was gold
Shit, I couldnt remember what was the sound, thank you! Good memories :)
At the end of the day Honda is what got him into F1, kept him in it longer than most RB driver last…and in the end Honda leaving is what’s keeping him out imo. Hence why they’ve always thought he’s not that guy.
Ikr 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂 immediately recognized PS loading sound
amen to the ps1 sound
Yuki should have been promoted because he is more disposable than Liam. There is a very big chance Liam's career will take the same trajectory as Alex and Pierre's. If this happens, he will be lucky to have a drive in 2026. Yuki is more experienced, and RB already know they don't want to keep him, so either he has an ok year against Max or he drowns while Liam gets the experience he needs to grow into his promotion for 2026.
Valid, but from the Yuki perspective, if Liam does drown hard like Pierre, Albon and 2024 Checo. He's probably in the car for the 2nd half of the year, knowing he's losing his seat, he'll have nothing to lose but everything to prove so if he could do better, he could be in the RB in 2026
I mean he is really only there because of Honda, and very likely to go to aston in 2026. Why bother giving a seat to an experienced guy you know is going to leave instead of a rookie who could burst out (or, at least, not straight up lose you the WCC)?
@@alfie5371
Let’s be honest.
RBR would rather promote Hadjar in a 2016 Verstappen manner than even considering Yuki.
Man the disrespect he has to endure is crazy, I just hope he finds a better drive in 2026
No, he was moved up to appease Honda. But when Honda played the old "Its not you, its me" card and left RB to hook up with AM. Yuki became the old T-Shirt that Honda left behind when they moved out. I'd expect him to be driving for AM as soon as Alonso remembers how old he is
There’s no way AM would replace a world champion with Tsunoda. They won’t win anything with a Tsunoda Stroll driver lineup.
They will either bid for Hamilton once he leaves Ferrari, or try to somehow get Max, Russell, Lando or Leclerc.
Yuki and Lance?
No chance.
Drugovich is still there to take the Seat
Hahahah Yuki and Lance is a line up waiting to fumble championships. Max could have this year’s mercedes and AM this year’s McLaren and he would still win the wdc against those two. No if AM get the fastest car and Alonso quits, all targets will be on either Max or Lewis
@@paperplane-db8qfThe Strulovitch family can't keep Lance there forever. They only own ~20% of the team. The other shareholders are bound to run out of patience soon now that their car is actually capable of fighting beyond the midfield.
Short answer : Yuki (Yes) , 5:10 , 12:29
Long answer : 00:00 - 14:45
Thanks bro
The president of anti-yapping is here 🐐
doing the lord's work 🙏
god I hope RB never win a title with Max again.
Toto isn't perfect but he actually does support his team/drivers, Bottas/Ocon/Russell have been treated fairly, Toto didn't stop til Bottas had a plan post Merc.
Horner dropped Albon/Gasly midseason, kept Checo for (OMG IT'S BEEN!!) 4 years! and is now signing another rookie over a more experienced young Yuki.
Credit to RB, they've had a strong academy but the past few years the decisions have truly been baffling.
Short answer. Yes
Long answer. RedBull didn't screw him. Honda did.
My issue with the "Let's give some perspective" arguments is no one ever mentions that Liam had a way newer engine than Yuki. So that hundredth there or tenth here would be a lot more if they had equal engines.
Okay, the Sony “tinfoil hat” pun was good. But as a Canadian, the “Blame Canada” bit made me laugh way harder than I expected.
Same here. At least we had Jacques and Gilles Villeneuve at one point but it’s still sad to see stroll and latifi representing canada lately 😭
I wasn't expecting a Deflategate reference today but I'm happy about it.
I think to explain Christian Horner‘s perspective best, you’ve got to think about the fact that it took Liam very very little time at all to match (relatively speaking) Yuki, whereas Yuki‘s start in 2021 was much rougher and took a lot longer to settle in, and what the team needs is a driver that can very quickly just get into that Red Bull and be on it.
TLDR: Liam‘s immediate pace shows more potential for the future than Yuki’s, considering the smaller timeframe and lack of experience
Yuki Fanboys - Getting destroyed by Gasly across 2 seasons doesn’t count because he was new into F1
Also Yuki Fanboys - Yuki deserves the seat because he barely beat a rookie Liam across the 10 races he’s competed in
@@jwakefield6724Liam won the head to head race finish over the 2 stints he had driving . I’d argue Yuki didn’t even win. I’d say it was a draw.
Even if that was true, it'd be smarter to move Yuki up first. Now, Liam has to do what basically every other driver has failed to do - and if he doesn't cut it, his career is probably over before it really begins.
Sergio Perez was an amazing driver when he went to RB, way better than Liam, look at how that turned out. You have to have an insane amount of confidence in Liam
@@justinlacek1481 but RBR doesnt care wether it will destroy liam career or not, what they care about is a driver that can be verstappen number 2.
@@Matthew-zv8qeYuki barely even won the race head to head against Ricciardo, even when Ricciardo was fucked over quite a few times.
Yes... and next year he'll be bumped out of the Red Bull program entirely when Arvid Lindblad moves up. Well, if he performs how I expect him to anyway.
yep, Yuki is goneski after next season.
Bloody hells, you actually pronounce the つ in Tsunoda correctly! It really feels nice to hear after hearing 80~90% of F1 commentators call him Sunoda over and over again 😢
The Brits are famous for butchering any name out there. To me it feels like a lack of professionalism but to them its the norm. Sky's: Leclerk is a great example...
I don't get why the commentators find that so hard
@@Jef_VermassenIt's worse here in Brazil; they get the difficult names right, but I've heard "Ricciardo" as both "Ritchy-ardo" and as "Rikardo" in the same race (forgot which one) and Checo is often called "Sérgio Pên!s" by accident ;-;
@@Jef_Vermassen Imagine if the Brits were as sensitive as everyone else when it comes to people mispronouncing their language. The whole world would grind to a halt.
Always called him Ts-uu-noda. Perhaps my french tongue saving the day 😂
Everyone seems to forget, Liam has done 11 GP’s. Yuki has done 91. There’s really nothing between them currently pace wise.
Liam hasn’t done any pre-season testing, has been racing on tracks he’s never raced on, has had zero development input into the car.
Yet despite all this is essentially on par with a drive who has 80 more GP’s than them.
So why would they give Yuki a seat? We all know doing your time is meaningless in F1
13:12 Bonus points for doing Lance & Lawrence as Terrence and Philip
The fact that Liam was only 0.1 away in qualy, having no experience in F1 and close on some tracks he has never raced before, in a car that he hasnt set up yet to suit his style, shows his talent and potential is way above what yuki would be. Yuki is okay, at best. But has 4 years experience on liam who was keeping up on average.
Marko is at risk of for a 4th time not learning from his mistakes. Kvyat came in after one season, didn’t drown but not good enough. Gasly after 1 1/3 seasons, Drowned. Albon after half a season, not good enough. Now Lawson after 2 1/3s of a season.. If he drowns Marko needs to leave Red Bull, if tsunoda came in and drowned, at least we knew he had experience and didn’t have what it took.
Marko wanted yuki, horner wanted lawson, not down to mongo marko for once at all
@ Marko will become the scape goat, he’s the head of the junior driver programme after all, Horner has more influence, he can deflect the blame on Marko.
@@sutha067 and to complicate things further, Marko has the backing of RB's Austrian half, while Horner has the Thai side backing him
Let’s see if he has what it takes next season at rb. We can’t be too sure on Yuki yet
@@Limegreenedragon it’ll like the horny Horner Impass all over again lmao
Also, those pearl-clutching about F1 drivers swearing have clearly never heard Montoya's radio messages back in the day.
I feel like if you hate swearing so much, Sport is by far the LAST thing you should be watching. High strung Athletes in High Stress situations? Not really sure what else was there to expect.
Wouldn't surprise me if Yuki gets a Honda IndyCar seat for Road and Street courses with Sato taking the ovals until Yuki is ready to do those too. He recent tested an IndyCar for a Honda promo at Thermal I think.
In the meantime he will be Aston Reserve on Indy off weekends like Pato is doing. It wouldn't surprise me either if he picks up either Alonso's or Lance's seat at some point though. Honda wants to make sure they can keep attracting Japanese talent and showing them they have a road to the show.
The battle between them and Toyota for top tier talent is real, and one of the reasons Honda had good young Japanese drivers is because of the F1 link. With Toyota taking on it's Haas partnership this Honda advantage is now gone and they still need to prove they can put good drivers in good seats.
I love indycar
People seem to forget Bahrain 24 cool down lap, Canada 24, Mexico 23, Silverstone 2022, most of the 21 season. He was never getting the seat.
it was never just about him swearing and i dont know why people act like it is
@@lachlantula youre right. its because he is slow
Hungary & Mexico 24 when the rumours started of Checo being replaced crashing in both Qualifying sessions
"most of the 21 season"
That was also his debut season lmao
@@milanwyd441he is absolutely not slow
They need 30 cars in the championship.
(Yes I know it’s not practical or ever going to happen - again.)
But it doesn’t stop me from wishing for it.
I'd at least like to see a full 26 team grid. There's enough interested parties to make it happen.
@jpaior 30 cars? Well, here is my dream 15 teams (also not practical, too):
1) 🇦🇹 Red Bull
2) 🇬🇧 McLaren
3) 🇮🇹 Ferrari
4) 🇩🇪 Mercedes-AMG
5) 🇫🇷 Renault
6) 🇩🇪 BMW
7) 🇬🇧 Aston Martin
8) 🇮🇹 AlphaTauri
9) 🇬🇧 Williams
10) 🇩🇪 Audi
11) 🇩🇪 Porsche
12) 🇯🇵 Honda
13) 🇯🇵 Toyota
14) 🇫🇷 Peugeot
15) 🇺🇸 Cadillac
Alternative version if "only" 13 teams:
1) 🇦🇹 Red Bull
2) 🇬🇧 McLaren
3) 🇮🇹 Ferrari
4) 🇩🇪 Mercedes-AMG
5) 🇫🇷 Renault
6) 🇩🇪 Audi
7) 🇬🇧 Aston Martin
8) 🇮🇹 AlphaTauri
9) 🇬🇧 Williams BMW 🇩🇪
10) 🇩🇪 Porsche
11) 🇯🇵 Honda
12) 🇯🇵 Toyota
13) 🇺🇸 Cadillac
Completely disagree. F1 is a meritocracy and it should be extremely special to get a seat. (Unless daddy buys you one) There's 4 complete rookies in the 2025 grid and 2 more that haven't even completed a half seasons worth of races. If there were 30 cars on the grid you'd be hoping for 40 so that the 6th place guy in F2 and the 2nd place in Indycar got a chance boohoo.
Just go watch IMSA, WEC or NLS
At most, 26 cars can enter the grid.
The whole “Yuki is a hot head” argument is so silly considering how Max conducts himself on occasion.
I think max gets away with it because his talent makes up for it.
Precisely why they won’t give him the seat. They can’t afford to have two hot heads clashing with each other. Not about “we can’t handle Yuki” it’s about “we can’t handle the two of them bickering”
can't exactly compare Max and Yucki
Max is talented, Yuki is not.
especially when you see how childish liam was when checo was in eye sight
Being attached to a parts sponsor can be a double-edged sword.
I appreciate the pretty fair analysis you always give 🙏
Liam destroyed Yuki when he first got in the car a few years back. This year Yuki should have been much faster. Add in how good Liam has been in every situation that hes stepped in and acceled. Its clear Liam should be the RB driver.
I dont really think either he or Liam are good enough for the seat. Yuki did beat every one of his teammates, so if it was gonna be anyone from the side-team it should've been him, but at the end of the day his achievements still havent been all that impressive to say it warrants a seat in a title challenging team. I think RedBull should've went for Carlos, but they fumbled on that oppertunity.
Problem with Carlos is Jos .......
@@ForestRacer1958 It's moreso Carlos Sr that doesn't get along with Jos.
Yuki didn't beat Gasly
Yuki got destroyed by Gasly. In all fairness if we go based on pure performance Yuki shouldn't even have been in F1 past his first season, he even said so himself he was surprised they kept him on for 2022. There is a reason the rookie of the year award went to an F2 driver (oscar) instead of him. He had a stinker of a season and the only reason they kept him on was because of Honda.
Or bottas. Or hulk. Legit anyone with exp, proven grit and race prowess
Josh, as a kiwi you MUST support Lawson despite any logical reasoning
What you said at the end makes perfect sense and after all this drama, I also came to the same conclusion" anyone that faces Max seemingly is doomed to fail. At least Yuki gets to stay in the RB family as the lead driver on a team. And like you mentioned, if Lawson crashes and burns halfway through, Yuki might be the one to replace him; they honestly don't have many options left because their entire system is messed up.
That PS1 start up sound brought up memories, thanks 💙
I'm probably one of the few who's happy yuki wasn't given the seat. For as much talent Lawson has, I don't think rb will give him the support needed to fully extract it and he'll end up like the rest before him
If I'm not wrong, Only Sebastian Vettel and Max Verstappen completed a full season with RB's junior team, then they were promoted to senior team and got success. I'm not sure about Ricciardo and Kvyat, but for the rest of them, their story wasn't as same as Vettel and Max. (Correct me if I'm wrong)
3:34 MBS has entered the chat. Also those people who say Liam isn't mature, he flipped the bird, needs to learn that flipping the bird while driving is as common to kiwis as aussies saying the c word
That second RB seat is cursed lol. Nobody survives. You either thrive like Vettel, Ricky, or Max and get bumped up into the number 1 seat....or you drown like Perez, Albon, Gasly or Kvyat.
Wouldn't have picked either of them. Just let Max drive both cars, they'd score more points that way.
Only reason Tsunoda even got into F1 was because of Honda's connection and that's also the only reason why he stayed as long as he did. In those 4 years, he made only slight improvements and only looked good because his teammates either underperformed badly (Ricciardo) or were just straight up bad (De Vries). If he is actually good enough, other team will pick him for 2026. If not, he at least had longer run than many drivers get.
As for Lawson, he was trimmed for Red Bull seat for a while. That's why he was sent to DTM and Super Formula (AKA actually competitive senior series) and did well in both of them. He was also Red Bull's test driver for years and his substitute performances were, while not great, perfectly serviceable. Now, is he ready for Red Bull seat? I still have my doubts and I think that he could have used a full year in Toro Rosso (or whatever it's called now), but Red Bull screwed up by first giving seat to De Vries (based on single race performance) and then Ricciardo who they kept for another year. If not for those blunders, Lawson would have had 2 full seasons under his belt and it would be clearly seen how he stacks up against other drivers. As it is, it's anyone's guess what will happen next. I do hope that he does well and has similar year to Piastri's 2023 season.
So yes - Red Bull did screw up but not in the way most people would say.
To be fair, lets not forget that VCARB also did absolutely arse on the pit strats. Even when either driver did great, like Imola for instance, it got tossed into the wind the moment they entered the pitlane.
De Vries is overhated a bit. He struggled at the start but was beating Yuki before he got sacked. If you look at averege grid position and race results Nycks are better than Yuki's. He just had bad luck that car was the worst on the grid and Yuki scored more points than him, but that is like saying Kubica beat Russell cause he did get a point and Russell didn't. Fact is Nyck was also still a rookie and Yuki had way more F1 experience. Nyck was performing on a similar level as Ricciardo. Which yes wasn't good enough but the only reason he was sacked was because Red Bull expected him to be an immediate performer and weren't interested in giving him time to develop.
@@PanBami2023 What tf are you talking about?
First of all De Vries isn’t overhated. He was criticised for underperforming based on everyone giving him high expectations of being the team leader.
Second of all, l don’t think we were watching the same season last year because you’re literally talking bullshit. De Vries clearly doesn’t have the better or highest average grid position than Tsunoda. I just calculated it and it shows that Tsunoda has the better average grid position of 13.9 while De Vries has 16.9. De Vries doesn’t even have the better results either. Tsunoda literally outqualified and outraced De Vries by 8-2 or outqualified him by 80% furthermore De Vries did not have bad luck. He underperformed in the worst car. He made a mistake by making contact with a barrier resulting in his wheel coming off in Azerbaijan
Also don’t compare the Tsunoda-De Vries situation to the Kubica-Russell situation in 2019. There’s a difference. First off the 2019 Williams was a 100 times worse than the 2023 Alpha Tauri because at least the Alpha Tauri was capable of scoring points on occasions whereas Williams in 2019 scored a point in 1 race which was Germany because that race was chaotic. Second, Kubica was ahead of Russell in the standings but the standings don’t tell the whole story. Russell was the better driver and he absolutely destroyed Kubica in the qualifying and race sessions in a car that was very difficult to score points with. Kubica scored a point by luck while Russell couldn’t whereas with Tsunoda and De Vries, Tsunoda was ahead of De Veries in the standings of 2023 because Tsunoda has the better results and he was the one scoring points for the team while De Vries was struggling. That was due to the Alpha Tauri sometimes capable of scoring points.
Finally, De Vries clearly wasn’t on a similar to Ricciardo in terms of going against Tsunoda. At least Ricciardo was matching Tsunoda whereas De Vries was obliterated by Tsunoda. Again you don’t know what you’re talking about and this excuse of Red Bull sacking De Vries because they expected him to perform immediately doesn’t really work when Lawson, in his first 5 races last year, performed well against Tsunoda despite being extremely lucky.
I suggest you watch last year’s season again
yuki beat a formula e champion and f2 champion as well as an experienced 8 time race winner and past his second season he was much closer to gasly and he would have beat him if alpha tauris rear wing didn't break
I know media is one thing and drivers use it to build their own brand, but Yuki to me always seems like racing isn’t his no.1. Talking about opening a restaurant, his radio attitude not developing, to me at least it’s pretty clear that for a while he wouldn’t get that promotion
Yes, he was. Yuki has actually proven himself and has been held to a different standard than Lawson.
There was never a standard to be held;
Yuki is Honda.
Honda left. Simple as that.
How has Yuki proven himself? By throwing tantrum after tantrum? By getting involved in many accidents? By Red Bull having to hire a coach to help him with his anger management? Yuki Tsunoda ONLY got that position because HONDA wanted him there. When Honda walked away from F1, that meant Yuki would have to prove himself on his own merits and he didn't succeed in doing that. Yes, he has calmed down somewhat and yes, he now consistently puts in decent performances, but Yuki no longer has Honda backing and thus doesn't bring anything into Red Bull. And you can't even argue that he didn't get a fair chance, because he has been with Red Bull for more years than other rookie drivers, who sometimes didn't even get a single season to prove themselves.
@@tjroelsma You literally just said Tsunoda throws tantrums and hasn’t proved himself and then you contradict yourself saying that Tsunoda has calmed down and put in decent performances. Make up your mind.
@@tjroelsma Look at his scorenboard, look at his teammates and their respective results. Yuki did _very_ well against all his teammates up to this point, including Lawson. Had Lawson put out a mind-blowing performance, I'd see things differently, but so far, I've not seen anything that'd make me expect him to perform that well. He had squabbles with Perez at the start, had nay of those situations happened with Yuki, you'd list them as reasons why Yuki isn't up to snuff I am sure.
Be that as it may, Yuki has done well these past years and he's being ignored in favor of, let's face it, a total nobody, that doesn't even perform any better than Yuki. This alone is reason enough for me to not support RB next season. It's a fucking slap in the face.
@@h.a.9880why are you ignoring that rookie Yuki got obliterated by Gasly across two seasons but somehow him barely beating a rookie Lawson is massively in his favour?
LMAO the Playstation startup theme 😂😂
He wasn't screwed, his temper would've broken him after 5 minutes of getting destroyed by Max. Also he never was a RB driver but a side deal forced upon them by Honda
So nice hearing and reading folks give Tsunoda the love he has earnt, he has truly turned into something worthy of an upper team seat.
Here's to Antonelli flopping next year and him somehow ending up with Mercedes haha.
13:13 😂 As a Canadian, I approve this very *VERY* much. 2021 was also because of a Canadian... so yeah... blame us.
Is Yuki currently better than Liam? Yes. Does he have more race starts in F1 than Liam. Yes. Does Liam have more room to grow than Yuki? Maybe.
That lunge in Bahrain cooldown against DR was the final nail. I imagine no one at the main team would have wanted that along Max. He already wont keep up with Max, why add the jeopardy he might take your main driver out when he gets told to move out of the way. But RB also snaked him by extending his contract denying him a chance to move.
That was shocking, F3 driver level move in your 4th season. Basically validated all his critics there
@ Yep, he already had a hot headed reputation, why drag attention like that. Definitely also gave other teams second thoughts
Yuki is a Honda driver first then a Red Bull driver second. He is only there as part of the Honda deal.
He wasn't.
RedBull openly stated that Yuki is currently the faster but the mentally weaker driver. And as seen with Gasly, Albon and Perez they need someone who is mentally resilient in the second seat. All those drivers are pretty good but crumbled under the pressure at RedBull. Tsunoda would be no different. Also his gap to Lawson is pretty small when taking into account that he has 8x the experience in F1.
Its nice to see that someone finally gets it. Yuki should have destroyed Liam and become the leader of RB but its really close between them with Yuki having 4 seasons worth of experience as Lawson only has what, 10 races?
Liam has the better ceiling too
Lawson’s mental strength is probably his best aspect. He has to put up with a lot in the past few years, overlooked for de Vries, the DTM farce where he was battling for a title, and being given just 6 races to earn a contract
Good job like always Josh! It is hard to make content without offending people, and i think netflix destroyed the sport, even though it have more people watching it. rational thinking is rare now, even though u made perfect sense in video, people will still complain. RB have analysis, they have so many championships under their belt, and ppl acting like they don't know what they are doing.
They just hear the opinions of journalists and other content creators of F1 and regurgitate them, to make them sound like they know wheel
Holy nepotism Batman indeed, Josh 🤣🤣🤣🤣 the perfect AM driver lineup- two untenable drivers, one for nepotism, one for corporate push...
Liam's race craft is far superior already. The way he fights is great, he's not at all hesitant to make his moves no matter who it's against, whereas Yuki might not even attempt to make a move
all this video taught me was that I need to listen to the PS1 startup sound on a loop, what a nostalgia trip
😂😂😂 I k r. Maybe even a ringtone 🤔🤔🤔🤔
13:42 glad you mentioned that.
Dude should just pull a gasly, even if he stays on he won’t be getting that seat for a long time
Just because is short😭🙏🏻
Booster seats count towards the cost cap...
Most of them are
Love the editing in this video, Josh! Top notch as always
The tin foil playstaion bit was the funniest 10 seconds Revell has ever published
For me, it’s simple. Yuki has become good in 4 years and around 90 races, Liam is overall, almost matching him in just 11 races. Plus, Liam has tested for Red Bull, he’s been their sim driver too, directly helping with car development so he should know how to get close to the ceiling of an actual Red Bull car. To summarise, Red Bull have invested a lot in Liam since his junior days and is likely to have a higher ceiling than Yuki, so I can see why they went for him.
This, it's so obvious.
All the tinfoil surrounding this decision is ridiculous.
Overall my ass, Yuki obliterated him these last 5 races!
@@VioletEyes_official mexico? qatar? abu dhabi? "obliterated" did you even watch this season?
@BaileySavva Did YOU? Mexico doesn't count since Yuki had a lap 1 DNF, Yuki was way faster in Qatar, and both RBs had a pretty forgettable Abu Dhabi.
@@VioletEyes_official Yuki got obliterated by Gasly which soured any hopes Red Bull had of him being a star driver.
Finally!!!! A vid! I think the whole Honda situation is why they didn't promote Yuki. They could've done a split year between them to see. It's one big family, so they could. Then use that as a guide post for 26
How much money is in F1? How can these teams just pay out these crazy lucrative contracts like this? There’s got to be blood money in it.
2:00 Unexpected Tom Brady slander 10/10
I dont understand the hype of Yuki, hes not championship winning material imo
It's wild to remember that just a little over 2 years ago Lawson was apparently no better than 4th on their list for the AlphaTauri seat. DeVries was the backup plan because Marko REALLY wanted Colton Herta, but couldn't get the FIA to agree to a waiver. Then DeVries pooped the bed and they put in Ricciardo, who subsequently got hurt and Lawson got a handful of races in until Daniel healed. Daniel didn't exactly poop the bed the way DeVries did, but he was thoroughly underwhelming and Lawson got a few more races in at the end of this past season. Now DeVries, Ricciardo and Perez are out of F1, Lawson is in the 2nd Red Bull seat and there's a decent chance Herta is in F1 in 2026 with Cadillac.
What's the outro song? I love it.
I sometimes feel that meeting Eddie Jordan is a bit like an out take from a 90s Gangster film. You don’t know how you got there, but as you slowly wake up you find yourself sat at a table with a half-drank Vodka surrounded by silhouettes, whilst he’s in the middle of telling you how Michael Schumacher moved to Benetton.
I knew this was what your video was going to be on..great video again!
Personally I think Yuki was never going to get it because of how long it took to adapt in f1. He only stayed in the seat because of the Honda connection. He has become an amazing driver but being a red bull driver requires someone who can drive anything fast, something Liam has proven by stepping in and giving good accounts of himself. No, on last year he doesn't deserve it but his ceiling is higher than we've seen in his short tenures and he's demonstrated great adaptability (so less likely to drown in that second seat}
Hold up. You are letting recency bias of his final season distract you from the rest of his tenure at RB. Perez was 4th in the drivers championship his first year. 3rd in his second year and 2nd in his 3rd year. He wasn't floundering at all until his final season were even when he was running well he'd be taken out of the race.
Absolutely, he clung on longer than any other number two driver with Max to date, that's pretty good going
He was definitely floundering in 2023 but the car was so dominant
People keep talking about being promoted from RB as if it was always about merit and that you had to earn promotion, Redbull has always taken the approach that unless you are inmediatly on the pace upon getting to their second team then you will not get a promotion, but Yuki had a crash full rookie year and it has taken 4 years for him to become a decent even though incosistent midfield driver, Lawson in comparison while hasn't beaten Yuki in head to head the average pace show that they are incredibly close, pair that with his mentality and Lawson becomes an obvious choice.
Correct. All of Vettel, Ricciardo, Kvyat, Verstappen, Gasly and Albon were promoted within their first 2 seasons, some of them after 1 season
This isn’t new, this is literally how Red Bull have been run for the past 16 years lol
Two things went against him here
1) He got demolished by Gasly, someone already deemed not good enough. For everyone saying “it was only his first 2 seasons” Red Bull don’t care. They promoted Vettel after a season, Kvyat after a season, Max after a season, Gasly after a season, Albon after 12 races. In their eyes, talent shows itself right away
2) Bahrain 2024 was unacceptable and no top team puts up with that. After 3 seasons, when all the talk was that he changed, he improved his attitude. Instead he basically validated all the criticism after 1 race
Strange how some people think Yuki shouldn't be judged on his first two years but Lawson should be judged on not even half a season.
there is also the internal power struggle of Red Bull too, Yuki representing Marko and Lawson representing Horner
With the greatest of respect? Then you speak as though Lawson is just a kid straight out of karting. Ridiculous
10:27 I like this when you used the PS1 Sound 😅
It make sense, as you have said Liam can play team game, which is letting no1 driver go, even being same pace as Yuki. It shows them that Liam will have no issue being 2nd driver, Bottas like. And that is fair play for all of the parties, also giving Liam chance to shine.
Also people forget the fact that Yuki and Liam head to head in races is still led by Liam in such short span of races
I actually think the pressure of being Verstappens teammate would bring Uki to his ultimate maximum. But that'd also bring along a pushing over the limit sometimes
I like Yuki now, but let's be real,Yuki wouldn't even be in F1 if Honda didn't force Redbull to give him a seat as a rookie.
Your take is the most balanced , thanks for huge effort to be this good - period .
Actually it’s not. He missed out a lot. It just gave you the answer you were shopping for.
Interested on your take .. how so ? What did he miss
Josh you are amazing! This is a FiNe piece...
Short answer: yeah
Long answer: yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh
Video quality has gone up since i started watching your content! we appreciate! hope you see this :)
Blame RB's management. Them not backing their own rookies and messing with their own drivers is not a new thing. It's part of their brand identity at this point.
Like most things I don’t think it’s just one reason why Liam was picked over Yuki but a combination of several different reasons
Yes.
But we all knew this would happen
OMG Hilarious video. Loved that seeing some south park. Its a tough call they are both good drivers. I feel like Yuki's outbursts just stuck with the decision makers and really it sucks.
I agree with the sentiment that it would have made sense to give Yuki the Red Bull seat for 2025 in order for Liam to get more experience in F1, but if Red Bull is going to get rid of Yuki by the end of next year they may have felt that it wasn’t worth promoting him. It’s apparent that senior Red Bull management doesn’t like Yuki very much and he’s only there to placate Honda.
In reality, I think it comes down to attitude and expectations. Liam will happily play a support role for Max for a couple of years whereas Yuki, having been in F1 for four years, may not be willing to do so. Yuki is probably more likely drive straight into Max by attempting overly aggressive overtakes in order to prove to Horner/Marko that he’s the real deal. Moreover, Max may just not want him as his teammate.
The decision isn’t “fair” in the true sense of the word, but life isn’t fair either. So, Yuki is just going to have to get on with it and try to impress the other teams on the grid.
This is mayoisglue speaking. This season coming up will be Yuki best yet, 8th place in drivers championship ahead of 9th place Lawson by a few points
ok important to note here: the speculation whether Yuki would leave in 2025 is not that far off, Horner has said Yuki being in the junior team for so long is not a good sight
Tsunoda's been offering the sort of consistency from what I've seen that tells me that he deserves the seat until he loses it, unlike Horner. This comes across as a pretty shallow way to avoid giving the guy the seat. Also, Josh, if you're planning to wear a dress in a video, you need to do better at it than CDawgVA.
IMO 100% the right call, now we wait to see.
I think as well as the yuki Trojan horse thing their main concern is what if he does well in redbull as a future rival driver since Honda will be fords competitor. It just makes things look a little awkward when a future competitor does well in the top team
Turning the Frogs Gay!! 10:37
IMO it’s a lose lose for red bull
Ever since they didn’t sign Sainz they don’t have any reliable options
If they signed Yuki he’ll probably be quick but inconsistent
If they signed Hadjar then that’d just be stupid
And signing Lawson is already a risk cause in the little time he’s had he hasn’t blown the world away
He was not screwed over. This is RedBull, they screw themselves over again and again despite of the drivers. RB is as bad at decision-making as Putin is at geopolitics
Redbull doesn't need someone who is great right now. They need a next champion in 4-5 years when max retires. I think they will try to play the long game and really develop Liam. As long as he does okay for team points they are fine for now
crazy that was a great drive in ‘the GP that shall not be named’ for yuki but no one remembers that part of the race 😅
With all the new Rookies, 2025 will be an exciting season, however with this strategy across all teams, the atrition rate will probably be high. Lots of pain and suffering. But as a strategy the potential benefits are high (Vettle, Piastri, Max etc) It will be interesting to see how much time and support each team gives their newbie's. I still like this strategy better than recycling the old guard that have fallen off their best.
Yes. Tsunoda is getting the shaft here. although if he went to Aston Martin, who now has Adrian Newey.................
As a motorsports fan, i wanna see more of a push for these high caliber drivers to go for the triple crown. F1 being the top regulations in the sport, in my opinion drivers shouldnt solely set their sights at a career in F1, but the top drivers in the world should be looking to be the best in every discipline a, win at Monaco, the Indy 500 and a win at the 24hours of Le Mans
expecting this to be the most bias video since the British media became a thing.
Tsunoda is as good as he'll ever be. Lawson is going to progress massively
I go with the theory that Yuki is a Honda pilot, and so prone to go to Aston Martin (or whatever name has then) if Aramco, Honda and Newey are able to force Lawrence to surrender his son seat at least.
Instead of being passed up for the senior team, I feel like there should be concern over the lack of hints that he’ll get a contract extension, saying as he’s been the majority contributor to their points standing these past few years
my view on the yuki situation is that it’s a bit disappointing in two different directions. Yuki came in as a pacey but flawed talent and he took a step the last part of 22 and in 2023 and 24 he’s been really impressive to me. i think that often too many f1 fans and pundits just reject the premise of any driver ever improving if they’re not a superstar talent, and yuki HAS gotten much better and consistent. is he a title contender? no, but that’s not what RB wants i think it’s fair to say. i think it’s a good showing for a “junior program” for a youngster to ply his trade and eventually get a shot, but im not mad at Liam for getting it or think he’s undeserving. I just worry there’s a chance RB has hurt two careers at once. We can see Yuki in a competent (on-track) team with good race operations, against the best measuring stick in the sport rn. We’d get to find out what Yuki really was if he was called up, and Liam gets more races to work on himself. I don’t think Liam’s ability will be able to be judged fairly in RB next season, but if he gets drubbed then he might flame out and so we miss out on both of their best forms.