When I think of honor killing, it's Banaz who comes to my mind first. She tried everything to live, she begged for help, she knew exactly what they were planning. And no one saved her. The video of her talking to the police is so heartbreaking, especially at the end when she asks "What can you do for me?" and the answer was nothing.
She is doing a amazing job fighting for women's rights...she says it's not part of the culture. Maybe it's not part of the culture that's worth being admired and protected - positive culture, but it is definitely a shameful part of their culture and tradition, otherwise why is it a common thing in those communities? still this side of their "culture" should not be a justification to not do anything to protect women who come from those backgrounds and live countries where murder is considered a crime.
One of the most heartrending, enragingTedTalks I have ever heard, and it has less than 30,000 views in 9 years!?!? Thank you, Diana Nammi for standing up for human rights and dignity AND for MAKING A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
Yes it is very common amongst the kurdish community as related to me by a Kurdish male refugee who lived in a flat I managed when I was a council housing officer.
She was excellence in her fight against gender inequality n hope it does not only improve the minds of the viewer but the world at large including Cameroon which is my field of studies in fighting gender discrimination particularly in the NW Region of Cameroon (MOGHAMO TRIBE)
Honour and killing should not be in the same sentence.......you can see how are traditions are very biased towards women. Its ridiculous and i dont want to be associated towards cultures that are extreme.
I've volunteered with Diana Nammi and her organisation, the staff there are at risk yes, and have to keep their identities and personal details secret, as is reasonably possible.
I really don't understand. If a boy or a man, fully aware that they are risking a girl or woman's life by flirting with or having a relationship with the girl/woman, yet he goes ahead and has that relationship then aren't they guilty of murder if she is killed for honor? Are they also killed? I just don't understand. It's not like they don't know. After the girl/woman is killed, do the men/boys feel guilty? Do they feel anything at all? Do they protest? Or do they go on to the next? I wish someone could tell me why these men are silent. Why are all the people I see speaking out against this always women and not the men who have lost their "love"?
@Kath Beck, and participate in the killing. Yes, I know and that is also difficult to understand. Yet you don't address my question. Why are the men/boys who claim to love the women/girls not speaking out against this killing? This was shown in the book THE KITE RUNNER. Toward the end of the book, the "hero" fell in love with a woman in the US and knew that by meeting with her, he put her in danger with her family. Did he deny himself to protect her honor? No. He wanted her so he risked her life. I don't call that love. I call that selfishness. He wanted what he wanted and her risk was acceptable to him.
You cannot pick and choose which parts of your culture you want to bring to the UK. This is why the police don't want to get involved. You have those around Marble Arch with 5 year old girls in Niqabs! You have campaigners for the right to carry out shariah within the community! But then someone is killed and you need the British police. A child is married off, which is fine, but then murdered by her husband, so then you want British law to handle it. The system is simply incompatable, and as you say, the British police are afraid of getting labeled as "intolerant". Until you are ALL intolerant of children being groomed for such a life, intolerant of this mentality within your closed communities, it will continue.
Yes, it's horrible and a tragedy. But these "traditions" (cultural norms) are set by the citizens in that culture, NOT by outsiders. Ergo, these pleas need to be taken to those people.
It shouldn't be called "honour violence". There is no honour in it. It's founded on shame and guilt, so why not call it for what it is; "shame violence"?
this woman is lying to the audience and to herself when claiming 'honour killings' are not part of her or similar cultures. 'Honour killings' and violence happened for thousand years or more in her culture', so they are an integral part of her culture. the idea of human rights as they are practiced (or shall I say used to be practiced until recently) simply did not exist in her culture before it came into intense contact with western culture. (Moreover modern western style human rights where women and children are also beneficiary thereof were established in the west rather recently)
so much respect for this woman.
Total respect. This woman is a complete heroine.
When I think of honor killing, it's Banaz who comes to my mind first. She tried everything to live, she begged for help, she knew exactly what they were planning. And no one saved her. The video of her talking to the police is so heartbreaking, especially at the end when she asks "What can you do for me?" and the answer was nothing.
I'd like to put that question to her boyfriend. WHERE WAS HE IN ALL THIS. If he really loved her, he would have protected her.
She is doing a amazing job fighting for women's rights...she says it's not part of the culture. Maybe it's not part of the culture that's worth being admired and protected - positive culture, but it is definitely a shameful part of their culture and tradition, otherwise why is it a common thing in those communities? still this side of their "culture" should not be a justification to not do anything to protect women who come from those backgrounds and live countries where murder is considered a crime.
One of the most heartrending, enragingTedTalks I have ever heard, and it has less than 30,000 views in 9 years!?!?
Thank you, Diana Nammi for standing up for human rights and dignity AND for MAKING A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
I have so much admiration for this brave, eloquent woman.
The most touching Ted Talk i ever heard
Yes, Women's rights should be Universal Rights for Women. We women must start bring about change.
Yes it is very common amongst the kurdish community as related to me by a Kurdish male refugee who lived in a flat I managed when I was a council housing officer.
In Germany a kurdish Girl was Killed by her brother because she dated a German Guy
She was excellence in her fight against gender inequality n hope it does not only improve the minds of the viewer but the world at large including Cameroon which is my field of studies in fighting gender discrimination particularly in the NW Region of Cameroon (MOGHAMO TRIBE)
Great work and great story
it still stuns me, unbelievable- and yet True!!
Being a girl born in this world is tragedy and miserable, why this thing happen, I don't understand
ONLY HAVE RESPECT RESPECT RESPECT FOR THIS LADY
Honour and killing should not be in the same sentence.......you can see how are traditions are very biased towards women. Its ridiculous and i dont want to be associated towards cultures that are extreme.
I wonder if Ms. Nammi is safe herself from revenge retailation.
I've volunteered with Diana Nammi and her organisation, the staff there are at risk yes, and have to keep their identities and personal details secret, as is reasonably possible.
When political correctness takes precedence over human life. Just no.
I really don't understand. If a boy or a man, fully aware that they are risking a girl or woman's life by flirting with or having a relationship with the girl/woman, yet he goes ahead and has that relationship then aren't they guilty of murder if she is killed for honor? Are they also killed? I just don't understand. It's not like they don't know. After the girl/woman is killed, do the men/boys feel guilty? Do they feel anything at all? Do they protest? Or do they go on to the next? I wish someone could tell me why these men are silent. Why are all the people I see speaking out against this always women and not the men who have lost their "love"?
@Kath Beck, and participate in the killing. Yes, I know and that is also difficult to understand. Yet you don't address my question. Why are the men/boys who claim to love the women/girls not speaking out against this killing? This was shown in the book THE KITE RUNNER. Toward the end of the book, the "hero" fell in love with a woman in the US and knew that by meeting with her, he put her in danger with her family. Did he deny himself to protect her honor? No. He wanted her so he risked her life. I don't call that love. I call that selfishness. He wanted what he wanted and her risk was acceptable to him.
@@j.n.sloane It's not selfishness; it's called being a yellow belly.
You cannot pick and choose which parts of your culture you want to bring to the UK. This is why the police don't want to get involved. You have those around Marble Arch with 5 year old girls in Niqabs! You have campaigners for the right to carry out shariah within the community! But then someone is killed and you need the British police. A child is married off, which is fine, but then murdered by her husband, so then you want British law to handle it. The system is simply incompatable, and as you say, the British police are afraid of getting labeled as "intolerant". Until you are ALL intolerant of children being groomed for such a life, intolerant of this mentality within your closed communities, it will continue.
Very brave woman and have a good heart. May God protect and bless you more
another example of a sick traditional - or rather traditionally sick culture FULLSTOP!!
Yes, it's horrible and a tragedy. But these "traditions" (cultural norms) are set by the citizens in that culture, NOT by outsiders. Ergo, these pleas need to be taken to those people.
we can't ignore their plight, when they are citizens in another country too e.g. Britain, U S of A, South Pacific nations, Australia etc. .......
Yes, but when they can’t “hear” the message... their narratives are entrenched and toxic, deeply ego bound.
What do we do?
what a profound woman
strong through what she suffered...and sharing insight, knowledge and strength with others...Awesome!!!!
It shouldn't be called "honour violence". There is no honour in it. It's founded on shame and guilt, so why not call it for what it is; "shame violence"?
بسیار عالی و درود بر شما 🙏🙏
You are absolutely correct!
Yes, this is Islamic practices in Iraq.
Hi there. Is there an email address to write to?
this woman is lying to the audience and to herself when claiming 'honour killings' are not part of her or similar cultures. 'Honour killings' and violence happened for thousand years or more in her culture', so they are an integral part of her culture.
the idea of human rights as they are practiced (or shall I say used to be practiced until recently) simply did not exist in her culture before it came into intense contact with western culture.
(Moreover modern western style human rights where women and children are also beneficiary thereof were established in the west rather recently)
Yes, you are SPOT ON.
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