What We Don’t Know About Europe’s Muslim Kids and Why We Should Care | Deeyah Khan | TEDxExeter
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- Опубліковано 12 тра 2016
- Aged 17, Deeyah fled from Norway confused, lost and torn between cultures. Unlike some young Muslims she picked up a camera instead of a gun. She now uses her camera (and her superpower) to shed light on the clash of cultures between Muslim parents who prioritise honour and their children's desire for freedom. She argues that we need to understand what is happening to fight the pull to extremism.
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Deeyah Khan is a critically acclaimed music producer and Emmy and Peabody award-winning documentary film director. Her work highlights human rights, women's voices and freedom of expression. Her skill as a multidisciplinary artist led her to film and music as the language for her social activism. Born in Norway to immigrant parents of Pashtun and Punjabi ancestry, the experience of living between different cultures, both the challenges and the beauty, dominates her artistic vision.
Her 2012 multi-award winning documentary Banaz: A Love Story chronicles the life and death of Banaz Mahmod. Her second film the Bafta-nominated Jihad involved two years of interviews and filming with Islamic extremists, convicted terrorists and former jihadis.
Deeyah is the founder of social purpose arts and media production company, Fuuse which works to create intercultural dialogue and understanding by confronting the most complex and controversial topics, and sharing alternative views and excluded voices.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at ted.com/tedx
It’s true. The amount of times our parents didn’t let us do something because they were scared about ‘what people were going to say’.
That also goes for being white in a white community. That has more to do with living in a community... But true never the less.
And they put it on the guise of 'it's bad, according to religion, so don't do it'
@@schiffelers3944 not as bad for whites
@@swymaj02 They keep blaming religion instead of telling their children the truth. It is people like these that make THEIR OWN religion look bad
Very true, I have heard that many times including my mother saying that to me and I live in Scotland .
Because of Banaz Mahmod, the UK now has a unit dedicated to the (mostly) women who are being forced into marriage. They have a 24/7 hotline & officers who have been specially trained on what to do, what to ask & how to act. And they can & DO act fast to save those who are being forced into marriage. Australia also has teams. In the larger cities, many US police depts. followed suit. Because of her, Banaz has helped save many MANY lives. Although the world would be a better place with her in it now, her death was not in vain. She's a hero to many.
she died? was it a hate crime?
@@katharine1285 u didnt see teh whole vid, her family killed her for leaving her husband
@Juli E...Thanks for the reminder. Europe must demand integration for people who come from other countries to live there. The laws must apply to everyone to keep a cohesive society. I am so glad there are people helping these women. The 'AHA' organization in the U.S. helps women in these circumstances. I hope if there is a desperate woman out there in this kind of circumstance, she will read this, and find the correct help.
@@serpentines6356 I'll probably get yelled at for saying this (not by you tho) but, in a way, I feel a responsibility to young girls & women that I see are in the situation or may be & I tell them where they can get help. How would we know? Women know. We see it in their eyes & actions. Some women may not be able to find the info or be so isolated that they can't know. There's ALWAYS ways to help. From a slip of paper to asking for help with your baby(even if you don't HAVE a baby) & tell them what they can do. Some will react with confusion, some may feel insulted. But most that I've told give me a simple nod & I've helped them start an independent real life.
From the news I read about UK it still looks to me that UK police will ignore crimes from islamists because they are so afraid of being called racists.
Loved how you uttered the words " the most beautiful revenge is to live a complete happy life"..
I was very moved by this talk. It was so confidentially told with empathy, sadness and a sense of purpose. As a Muslim you have my full support and feel that with a people like you things can only get better.
"You make our daughters think they can do whatever they want!" I love you!
I was shook when I heard that the dad hated that.
White feminists love avoiding these heinous crimes and sentiments, because it makes their whiny complaints insignificant.
Really, women actually facing serious threat to their lives and wellbeing have no time for feminism because calling for help does nothing in their immediate community. Therefore the only people who cry out for feminism are just spoiled middle class white women.
I think you didn't understand how those fanatic people said this
They basically said it in sarcastic way as an insult
@@user-bn9ft7ns2m I love the speaker for having made the daughters think outside the box. Even though it has outraged the fathers. :)
@@ela2168 ohh sorry i thought u thought that the fsthers were praising the speaker
It's heartbreaking the hundreds of thousands of children subjected to a life of misery because of culture , honour and where parents r too concerned about what society says and dictates.
a pretty backward culture at that !
Is culture another word for Islam for you ?
@@SnakePliscan politics is to blame
@@diasporaafortiori5180 Is politics another word for Islam for you ?
I would say the parents are victims too. Nobody did them any favours. But is it a cultural or religious issue? Or both? I would say both. The speaker here seems to be saying that within the European Muslim communities, there is a minority: an unrecognised minority within a recognised minority that is ostracised by the recognised minority. And although she goes on about how much young people are suffering, this relates again to a minority within the minority: I figure from the talk that most young European Muslims see themselves as good enough Muslims in their particular community's eyes. In other words, they also conform. There is nothing essentially wrong with that in and of itself: good Catholics in a village live according to the proprieties of their society.
A leaf, however, must be taken from the page of the Jewish experience of immigration into America in the first half of the 20th century. One hundred years ago, Jews to America embraced music, the stage, drama, film, showbusiness. Already you say this is impossible for a Muslim, any Muslim. Well, take the very first "talkie": about a Jewish cantor (singer in a synagogue) in New York in the 1920s going against his rabbi father's wishes to become a popular singer on stage. That film? The Jazz Singer. It might be fictional but it surely reflected the tension between tradition and society at the time for immigrant Jews in America. Perhaps the Jewish producers of the film intended it to be an advertisement for as well as an invitation to Jewish self-expression in the arts and entertainments. It became a very famous movie, very quickly. And, well, what confidence the Jewish community must have gained from it, in America in the late 1920s!
There was lots of poverty back then. But the heap of opprobrium to be visited on 'wayward' Muslim youth (or youth of Muslim background perhaps) is much greater from their own community in the first half of the 21st century in Europe than it was for Jewish youth from their own in America, in the first half of the 20th century. So is all this really the West's problem? Is the idea of self-expression the superficial difference between a Christian society and a Muslim one? And are there not millions of Muslims outside the West, many trapped in poverty themselves but aware of the world, frustrated by the lack of courage and imagination of people of Muslim background now settled in the West but who steer clear of anything artistic? Lest it compromise somehow their pious appearances? Much, as I've said, can be learned from the experience of Jewish people immigrating to America in the early 1900s.
This woman is amazing! "Can you be a friend to your child so that they can trust you & share their experiences with you rather than seek it somewhere else?" really hit home for me.
God bless. Stay healthy🇺🇸
I do wonder how many "brown men with beards" would even entertain listening to this wonderful and intelligent woman with amazing superpowers. The world would be a much better place if they opened their minds and hearts and listened for once.
You'd be surprised how many Muslim men genuinely want the best for their daughters. They want them happy not beaten down. At least western ones. But the change required within Islam is vast. It means the equivalent of the enlightenment across the whole Muslim world - over 1 billion people, many in poverty and oppression.
e vander yup
People before profit Humanity yup
dnmurphy48 yup
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*"If the young are not initiated into the village, they will burn it down just to feel warm!"* _~ African Proverb_
@DARK HUMOUR Thats what Deeyah said in the middle of presentation
And when they have burnt it down, what then? The old were young once, too.
DARK HUMOUR I am sure where they hurt girls by mutating their Virginias. Islamic countries like Sudan and Nigeria
@@Dustshoe ...what then...? the old forgets theyre youth. that must change.
Isn't it already warm in Africa?
It's actually "If a child is not embraced by its village, he will burn it down just to feel its warmth."
This is a very poignant quote. Thanks for sharing.
African proverbs respected but not the people who spoke them. Smh
His village? To agree with 'he will burn it ...'?
Implicit in that proverb is the threat of violence if one does not get his way.
It's the sort of sinister, arrogant and self-serving statement now conveniently only heard, probably, on the streets of Europe. A rallying cry for the sorrowful and self-pitying, who have been given, as they see it, permission to only see the developed world's glass dealt them as half empty. Never as half full.
Why did you feel the need to make the distinction between “initiated” and “embraced”?
@Steve Bingham How about actually getting your info from the source? Getting your info from ex muslims who have an issue with islam is like getting your info on the USA from someone who hates the USA. Obviously you will get misinterpreted and falsified info that way.
I am 17 and I was born in a Muslim family . I am pretending to be a Muslim I literally can't do anything on my on will if I told them I don't believe in islam even my parents will surely kill me without any second thought I am really stressed out . I watch such videos because it brings me relieve that I am not the only one 😔
which country do you stay in
@@LEO-fw3fl currently Pakistan
@@o_0264 don't worry ..I am hindu indian and can understand your pain and from now on I am not going to take every rights and freedoms my country and culture offered me granted as I now can imagine ppl suffering in islam....hope you ppl find light in this darkness ...we must live in a free society and in Harmony
And will aware all my community regarding the problem ppl like her and you face in Islam due to some ppl and will unite atleast some ppl from hindu community and make them think that you ppl are equally victim of these orthodox Islam views like us ....🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@pic952 Thanks for showing concern I am planning to run away from here .
Pakistan is getting worse day by day the religious extremism is increasing i want pakistan to turn into secular state as it was once before 1980s.
You can't bring any change because the real culprit is islam where there is islam there is violence and specially in these developing countries it's death cult.
@@o_0264 may be they have misinterpreted Islam as I have Muslim friends who are not extremist in their views and respect other culture and religion in India and that is why we have Muslim leaders in India and my favourite is APJ Abdul Kalam sir but in Pakistan due to their religion extremism and majority of Islamic countries they don't give power to non Muslims and even Muslims have caste system as I was watching in a dw documentary how ahmadiya Muslims get tortured by sunni Muslims... hopefully we one day learn to coexist peacefully .....stay strong sister ...love from ur indian sister
As an American that spent time living in the Netherlands, everything she is saying is so real. Best TED talk I've seen.
Inspiring, brilliant. You made me, a 60 year old white woman from America, realize I am brainwashed into rejecting victims that don't look like me. Love, respect and acceptance of everyone is the only way. I have saved your talk so I can watch it again.
I notice you Americans seem to introduce your race and gender in comments all the time. Why are you all so obsessed with these things? Is it leftist identity politics?
@@bmotion7648 Perhaps, but I really don't know. Thank you for the question, I will definitely be more aware of this.
@@conniehanson6646 don't take it personally. I see it a lot. I just wondered. Unfortunately identity politics is prevelant in the west and it ignores MLK's idea that the sum of a person is the content of their character. I think the left have forgotten this. Have a great day 👍
@@bmotion7648 You understand a comment/opinion better when you know the person's background. That's why.
In the video she also told us her background first. It's all about understanding each other better.
@@bmotion7648 Hey! I was actually wondering the same and think that over the years I found an answer to this which I just wanted to share with you. I think it's problematic to simply label this as something that the "left" has brought up. The question of why race has a much higher significance in the US than in some other countries also has to do with its history of being a country of immigrants and the fact that in North America there was a system of slavery which lasted for centuries and was grounded on racial difference and racial inferiority/superiority. When I first traveled to the US 2 years ago, I was shocked when an African-American girl (now my girlfriend, luckily) asked me, a white German dude, if I had ever dated somebody outside of my own race - I noticed how strange this question seemed to me and I honestly felt a bit uncomfortable. The reason why I felt this way was that for many Germans, even using or reading about the word race (of which the German equivalent would be "Rasse") can cause confusion or irritation because it is most commonly associated with Nazis and the racial ideology which they propagated in the 1930s and 40s. In American culture, however, race has a very different cultural meaning as it has shaped American society basically throughout the nation's entire history and actually continues to do so in the 21st century (systemic racism as a good example for that). I don't know where you're form, but depending on your cultural context you might get the impression that "race" plays a much larger role for Americans (or you might even think they're somewhat obsessed with this issue). Hope I could share something newsworthy with you :)
As a British Pakhtun Muslim Dad, your talk was deeply moving and thought provoking. Keep up the good work, and you do indeed have super powers Deeyah!
No 'LOL's' here, it's sad, disappointing and it needs to change. And we should support ex-Muslims and liberal Muslims and talk with fundamentalists... Greetings from Bradford...
brett kelly
Even Charles Darwin was married to his cousin, just around a century and a half ago and therefore had children with genetical deformations. In some protestant denominations you can easily marry even your first cousin which is totaly absurd considering the seriouse scientific reasons to avoid that.
+brett kelly is right +TheMHmagic!
fatimah, mo-ham-mad's daughter, married ali, who was ham-mad's first cousin
so, it's is not culture but islam which sanctifies inbreeding
besides, did not mo-ham-mad himself have sex with the dead body of his aunt in her grave?
ergo, inbreeding is ingrained in islam
Lee Holmes .What am i talking about, I'm talking about western culture that's what I'm talking about so if you're honest go ahead and say that I'm telling lies .
brett kelly learn to read and spell, then read something and maybe then you can have an intelligent conversation with someone.
Referring to young boys who were drawn toward violence at 14:50 “I never would have thought this, but so many of them have absent or abusive fathers.”
My bf is pakistani muslim, and I am a Muslim myself. We've been in a relationship for one year. These days we've been through hard times.. his parents have set up a marriage for him with someone (arranged marriage). And I told him.. just tell them that u have a gf. Then he told me like he's scared if there's something bad happen to him if he does that. Now I understand and I'm kinda scared too at the same time. I know it's hard but.. thankfully he is not gonna meet her. So we both decided to just focus on studies and be successful. All I can do is just have a hope and keep praying.
I really love him and I hope I can be with him, spend the rest of my life with him
And please pray for both of us.. it means a lot and I really appreciate it.🥺
Good luck. Hopefully everything works out well for you both.
InshaAllah he will not be married against his will and you will get married if it’s what you both want 🤲🏼
Sorry to hear that! Stay strong!!! 💪🏽 love to both of you ❤️
Good luck 🤞
Hope for the best.!
One day Insha Allah both you will be the part of each other ✌🏻✌🏻👍
@Safiyyah Umar So you think it’s ok to marry complete strangers or even cousins and then after marriage live miserable life because both are now found to be not compatible. You can’t use religion as an excuse to rush two people to marry when they don’t know or don’t love each other. They should take as much time to know each other before taking the biggest step to there future. It’s one time chance you either end up happy or miserable. And even if couple want to Marry the Muslim families are against it. It’s a world of misery and unhappiness growing up in Muslim families. I’m glad most are rebelling and even leaving Islam.
"If the young are not initiated into the village, They will burn it down just to feel it's warmth"
I'm taking that.
Barduck39 - It's such a thought provoking statement!
they also need to reform there Religion that is the seed of the problem they bring into our countries of freedom
It's not even their true culture , its ignorance of their culture and religion.
Barduck39 profound
@@sharondalton4021 its not a religious matter , its a cultural matter
The worst part of the story was that she was attacked by so-called "traditionalists" for being part of her own culture's centuries-old classical music traditions.
Harry Bowman Exactly. These so clearly traditionalists, are actually just reactionary insecure Brown men, afraid of exposing their own tradition to others.
Until the 50s (and even beyond in some families) of XX century, in Portugal, then a very conservative catholic country for a girl to choose a music or theater career was perceived as shameful in many families. Yes, the Arabs were here for 800 years but apparently, and according to a genetic study of Tel Aviv University, "only" 18% of the portuguese population has Arabic genetic markers, being the rest 32% Jewish and 50% European.
They are 500 years behind european culture!
Because they are Muslim. Islam is not a religion of peace, it's not even a religion. It's a political system of submission.
mischa1880 Islam is the one and only religion, if you have any doubts please see Ahmad Deedat and Zakir Naik's videos on youtube
My tear trickled down unknowingly as I listened through this talk. What a fantastic, brave, coherent, inspiring, articulate, compassionate woman! This has definitely broadened my knowledge and understanding of an ethnic group that I barely pay attention to. Thank you. And I hope together all of us can all do out bits to make this world a more humane place to live for all.
When walking through my Dutch village, I always try to smile at everyone I pass by, as most villagers do.
Theres just two kinds of people that don't dare looking me in the eye or don't acknowledge me altogether; Im a small brown(not arab) woman and half-white; It's muslims and white soccer moms with a 'kort pittig kapsel'(the kind of hairdo I fear). One is doing it out of fear for being rejected. The other one is doing it out of rejection. Though it took me a while to see the difference, though both is a form of self preservation; theyre both looking out for themselves and their people, I realized I can't blame either for it.
I have the same superpower Deeyah has, and my resolve is to keep smiling at everyone, indiscriminately, without judging, putting my own feelings of rejection aside(when neither smiles back); I will give an honest and inviting smile to anyone, although neither of those groups will feel invited, at least I tried. In time, my smile will reach some of them. In time, Ill find more ways to reach out to people that don't feel like they can. In time, we will all find a place where we belong.
Keep smiling, it works!
Blijven lachen/ keep smiling. 😁 You are putting a effort into treating everyone kindly!
Mooi.
I find that quite sad..I can't understand why they won't smile even though you say you understand.
I do also find that the muslim women will not look towards my face they appear to purposefully aim to not look at me at all. Something I guess they are trained to do from and early age. I passed 10 or 12 on a several layered stairway, today, as they came down and I went up. Not a flicker of any recognition I was there and moving well aside so they could pass, what with covid, protecting each other and all that; from any of them. The boys stood in the doorway as I came in the building, making it practically impossible to get by. Mothers are supposed to get respect? Not this white almost 60 year old. I held the door a long time waiting for them to come through or let me take a turn to pass. I was a total insignificance. I have a smile for anyone but it is not always looked for and you feel its not wanted. I find it very sad more than anything. I find I want to catch the eye of people who are different to me and smile, we are all human and we have the same basic needs. We need to connect. We all need to treat each other better.
Oh, how I love this woman! She is a new hero for me. I was a bartered Chinese bride.
Sorry to hear that you were bartered. These sorrow behind those words.
你想说什么？你说的那个形容词没有看懂。
Hope you got out of there and are doing well in life!
It has been 2 years since you wrote these words. I am still thinking of you and hoping you are doing well.
To all who has common sense, listen to this lady.
@Fruit Cake exactly , I'm reading the comments and some disbelieve it thinking it's fake , it happens here everyday day in iraq ..in my abusive family... I'm literally in tears
There is an undertone of Long Unjust pain in her voice. Respect dear Lady.
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I do wonder how many "brown men with beards" would even entertain listening to this wonderful and intelligent woman with amazing superpowers. The world would be a much better place if they opened their minds and hearts and listened for once.
I had to cut my long hair because my father and uncles thought it was unorthodox for a boy to have long hair.
I rebeled and i have promised to grow it out again.
i really want long hair because i play metal guitar
GunMan Khan You do not need long hair to play metal guitar. You need talent and perseverance. Your difference maybe the one thing that makes you stand out and so become successful. Buy a wig or extensions, if you must.
@@susancurtis1651 thanks really appreciate it
@Nerdecon yes,
and that is important why?
susan curtis yeah
I will present your Ted Talk to the teens in my classroom for World Civilizations. It was powerful, beautifully explained and motivating. Thank you!
have u read quran lorrie
lufayoub hopes Ask the Yazidis and the Kurds?
@@lufayoubhopes8997 what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
Truth is a social construct. Still have your job?
Please check my comment that I wrote down a while ago.
Her story is so sad, yet she's so inspirational because of her courage!
Please support the plight of the religious minorities in Pakistan. The Asiya Bibi case is very concerning. Pakistan has to get rid of its blasphemy laws.
But not real story
I m muslim women
@@ghittaelbernossielphilalie5474 what is your story I would like to know and thank you in advance
True
@@ghittaelbernossielphilalie5474 really?
That young woman would be alive if the authorities put in place had protected her. Those police should be tried as co-conspirators.
That's so sad. The only time police seem to get involved is when there is a homicide.
Exactlyyy! The police are there to protect you from harm, but we hear of soooo many of these cases. There are police who are simply not doing their job
Have they been? If not I will sue them tomorrow at the International Court of Justice.
@@marekkrakovsky4187 I doubt it.
Shed 20 years ago Police were not allowed to interfere or intervene in domestic matters particularly between husband and wife. They are there to catch and arrest criminals. They are not there as marriage guidance counsellors. Believe me, most Police marriages end in divorce too.
BRAVO from Norway!!! :)
I rememer her.... LOVELY to see what she has become, and what she is doing!
RESPECT!!!
Woah more love from Norway
@Wayne Wallace you don't even know the definition of God. Don't comment without knowledge. Illiterate
Muslim go home to Pakistan
I second that. :)
@@tonymind308 excuse me what does ur statement mean? 👁👄👁
Spitting in someone's face is just _low._ I can't imagine doing it to anyone. I can't say I'm not an angry person. There are lots of people I can't stand. But I'm not angry enough to spit in someone's face. That's just disgraceful.
During university I had an evening job as an ice hockey referee. Ice hockey has a deserved reputation for violence, it's pretty rough. But spitting on another player is just about the worst offense in the book. It's an automatic match penalty. You can sneak up on another player, swing your stick like an axe to the back of their neck and you'll probably receive a lesser punishment...
Yeah, I think that is added to make her story more emotional.
@@patriotretiree903 A British-Asian family friend of ours was run over deliberately and almost killed by racists here in England. They were certainly after killing him and ran over his body more than once. I have absolutely no doubt that many more are capable of spitting in a woman's face.
About ten years ago, I watched a Channel 4 news item about racism in Dublin. A British-Asian journalist went undercover working in a chippy. They filmed the abuse he was subjected to, over the course of a few days. Mostly verbal stuff, hurtful and humiliating - but at one point a youth spat in his face.
The journalist turned to his Asian co-worker who said merely, "Try being here for six months..." It was very depressing to see. Perhaps it is available online? It's sad that you are suggesting this woman's story is embellished. I've seen racism at work. It's depressingly real.
@@reesemorgan2259
Ive tried to comment this everywhere I can in the comments of this video, so please read and try to understand, I can only type, copy and paste so much:
These problems are not due to Islam in Muslim countries. These problems are due to the unIslamic culture in Muslim countries. If these countries were truly Muslim in their behaviour, these things would not happen. She needs to make this clear. This is not fuel for Islamaphobia, try to understand.
May Allah bless you and your friend and grant you both paradise Ameen
"I chose to pick up a camera instead of a gun."
well but ISIS choose gun , and guess who's gonan win in 1 vs 1
@@zuboy4272 well but you know how ISIS is viewed around the world, so guess who is winning
Camera can have bomb in it too?
@@jennymisteqq695 You're a poor excuse for a human being.
Yes, yes, yes! Daughters CAN do whatever they want! Beware all you men with tiny egos!
I'm not sure a battle of the sexes, to add to the problems she has already illustrated, is what she is purveying? In countries where women are given power, sadly, it is often abused. Nice of you to add a trouble-stirring side argument, based on pure sexism, though.
@@gurglejug627 If you think so 🤷♀️😂
@@gurglejug627 Wow, women are abusing their power...... where and how? I'd love to hear that one. Do they really still want and demand the same rights and equal pay with men. Disgraceful.
@@pussiboos21t but there isn't a pay gap for the same jobs - hasn't been for decades. If you do some research you'll see how some activist have manages to conjure that one up to stir up trouble - the problem is it just isn't true - it would be criminal do that. The problem is ignorance of facts and education and knowledge, as you have just displayed.
@@gurglejug627 Your attitude says it all. You think all companies follow the law...... There may be law but it is often not naturally upheld or accountable unless by the employee themselves takes it up. Fact.
"Even in the free-est heartlands of Europe... we are not free" dang
Now imagine in islamic countries
@@o_0264 I dont think most idiots like this one realize that "islamic" countries are very diverse in their social freedoms, most are actually unfortunately secular. in many islamic countries the islamophobic attacks come from the sky rather than the streets. But other non-politicized islamic countries definitely would be more pleasant to live in just because people are actually cultured and civilized and dont have as much violence and crime.
@@o_0264 You realize just because an alternative worse does dismiss the previous option. Europe is not the Middle East, but they still have issues with accepting religious minorities.
What a fantastic human being that lady is 🙏 Her parents should be proud.
Steffen Lynge True because she doesn't follow Islam to the core.
Yes u are right i am a Muslim and am not a terrorist i was born in 2001 the year islamophobia begin i am a pakistani and i have heard so much about hatered from european countries for us this makes me feel alone and after watching this vedio i am in tears😢😢😢😢
@@laibazaheer4394 White feminists love avoiding these heinous crimes and sentiments, because it makes their whiny complaints insignificant.
Really, women actually facing serious threat to their lives and wellbeing have no time for feminism because calling for help does nothing in their immediate community. Therefore the only people who cry out for feminism are just spoiled middle class white women.
@@CrabTastingMan i don't understand why you call them spoiled i really didn't get it can you explain it to me
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As a Pakistani Muslim born and raised in Canada, I feel this topic close to my heart. Thankfully I was brought up with the true teaching of Islam full of love, compassion, kindness, and standing up for justice. I pray for those kids who find themselves lost and I hope God will guide them like he has guided many of us.
"O you who have believed, be persistently standing firm for Allah, witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness. And remain God-conscious: verily, Allah is aware of all that you do." 5.8
it keeps bugging me that somehow allah decided what everyone will do in their life 50k years before creating the earth, but when you dies you get punished for the bad -he made- you do.
also when it is said that once you die, you should not be sad about not being on earth because paradise is much better. I mean unless you died killing the ennemies of islam, in which cas it is acceptable to long for earth so you could kill and die times and times again because there is nothing more glorious.
sorry, i didn't read much more of the koran yet, i'll resume reading it eventually but right now i have to wash off all of this love, compassion and justice. that's a bit much for me.
You weren't raised in Pakistan that's why you r saying . Ask me please please please
Stop - ur version of Islam is a joke and doesn't exist
Very few really study the Koran they will pray 5xs per day and Kill In it’s name but they don’t truly know what God expects from his children. Same with Christians (I am Christian) people will make a show of going to church preaching but they don’t truly know or have a true relationship with God and in both theologies God Allah tells us to Love one another as he loves us and if we all could do that 1 commandment Life for everyone would be happy
@@Lapantouflemagic0my friend, what you’ve just said is totally wrong ! but, i advise u to read and study the Quran. you will see why so many are muslims :)
The first time I saw any of this first hand was about 1976. I was working in southern California and staying in an apartment house nearby.
A friend of mine and her friend were sitting in the entrance area talking. The visitor was sad, crying, and I asked her what was wrong, was there anything I could do to help.
She said "no" and told me why she was sad. She had come to the US as a student and decided to pursue law in her studies. She had been told from relatives still living in the middle-East that she could never return home, not even for a visit. The danger was too great, and she would likely be killed if she tried. This was because she had pursued a career in law in America, something that was totally forbidden in her homeland.
I moved soon thereafter and never saw either of them again, but it was so sad that such nonsense and madness prevailed. I hope she was able to find happiness.
"what will people say" This sort of pre medieval mind set makes me despair
You should watch the movie "what will people say" :D
You should know that your chances of success in life are dependent on what certain people think about you. Disregarding how other perceive you entirely is the irrational thing to do.
it comes from people who could not muster the strength to stand up for themselves. most people just cant swim out of the current of human judgment, repression, and rejection. most people just drown.
@@shinshiryuteiou You are correct. Cultural pressures to conform must be immense.
I am afraid those you are addressing would never watch these kind of video's.
she is addressing everyone, not just the bearded men
so those who do, should tell her story... often.
AND there is always Hope that they will🌅🗽💖🌉🎇🌆🎆🎁🎄
Reaching out to public opinion is what makes people evolve in their thinking. I understand your point, but even if the bearded men won't listen to her, maybe some young, more open-minded muslim will listen to her.
Don't forget she also criticizes the European countries : police does not take muslim complains into consideration. And you, me, us Europeans can do protests, can speak up for that !
Silence will never help.
Haha I thought that too the whole time. I wish to be wrong
If only there could be a few million more brave young ladies like yourself, how much better and happier the world would be. As an atheist, I cannot say God bless or the Muslim equivalent , but I can extend heartfelt good wishes and admiration in your attempt to bring ALL people together. Good luck!
Barry Pope but i can say hail odin and hail zeus! (For culture reason)
Brave young ladies but more importantly brave young men, who will break this abusive cycle
The Muslim equivalent is also "God bless". It may surprise you, but they claim to follow the same God that Christians do.
May all the forces of universes be with them and help their needs- as an atheist I prefer that
And may mother nature forgive you or watch out your Karma you're building for yourself
you change a lot of things in my mind “Thank you " it’s not enough for you I’m Arab and Muslim and I agree with all your words and I see all your words it’s all true and it’s happening in my ward I really really appreciate what you doing for Ward are usually thank you
You are not justifying violence yet you are. Many people have uncaring parents, do they become violent jihadis. Same argument hold true for any criminal, and is defeated. Almost everyone has pains, as you grow you will realise. And yess everything boils down to belief system.
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Navendu’ you need to listen again to the video
@@thinkagain1187 please elaborate
Haven't seen such a wise speaker in quite sometime, Her thoughts are amazing
I have Asian Muslim parents.
Being raised in Europe, I always felt like I didn’t belong.
My parents forced me to learn Arabic, to read the Quran, to Pray 5 times a day. I HATED IT. They never asked me how school was, how many friends I had, which style of clothes I prefer. They always told me how to dress, how to talk to their friends, how to behave. To never talk to boys.
I grew up WITH THE CONSTANT FEAR that I’ll be sent off to my parents’ country if did something wrong and married off to an uncle.
Now I’m older, and I realise that I was PSYCHOLOGICALLY ABUSED.
This was my life, EVEN LIVING IN EUROPE.
Asano Tsuneoki These problems are not due to Islam in Muslim countries. These problems are due to the unIslamic culture in Muslim countries. If these countries were truly Muslim in their behaviour, these things would not happen. She needs to make this clear. This is not fuel for Islamaphobia, try to understand.
You own your life. Don't let anyone take that away from you.
talha tariq Are you a parrot. You are repeating this comment several times now... Get creative and start debating...
Asano, I am very sorry you have dealt with that, but know Jesus loves you and you are welcome to reach out to Him anytime you want. He will never hurt you and neither will any loving human being.
hey, care to share how you are doing now?
She is strong. Her story is inspiring and how she is helping young people is amazing ❤️
How ?
@@kaleemsheikh6560 because she is standing up for the rights of all individuals, to try to be our best selves, to accept ourselves and others. People who are angry at others, mostly are angry at something about themselves (except perhaps when we see abuse). If you are still struggling to answer "how she is helping young people?" that's okay. I hope you will understand in sometime. If your community care about you, as an individual, then you don't have to be angry at her for offending anything or anyone.
Escaping primative oppression takes courage. Islam is a poison on this Earth!
Does she recommend music therapy for extremists?
Robert Kelly 🤦🏻♀️islam isn’t the problem, there are good Muslims and there are bad Muslims, just like in every other religion. Blaming an entire group won’t do anything.
A very important video. Reminds me of time trying to help Asian Women in a project in the Midlands (UK). They fell between the desire to keep their parents happy, whilst being honest to themselves and fit into the new culture to which they were attracted. The sad consequences for many of them are reflected in this video.
Her talk was extremely heartfelt and authentic. Hats off to you for overcoming very obstacle and threat thrown at you.
Love from Pakistan.
@Amandeep Wahi Humans have been treated as untouchables. Tell me about religion? No religion is bettter than people supposedly practicing it.
As a ‘white’ person, I stand with you. I wish I could have been there to protect you from that man. The lack of caring for each other is abhorrent and sad. I’m so sorry that you were not protected and stood up for. ❤️
Bless you all the way from Pakistan.
White feminists love avoiding these heinous crimes and sentiments, because it makes their whiny complaints insignificant.
Really, women actually facing serious threat to their lives and wellbeing have no time for feminism because calling for help does nothing in their immediate community. Therefore the only people who cry out for feminism are just spoiled middle class white women.
Unfortunately, kids not protected from that kind of White man are so many. They need To be protected. 🌹🌹🌹
Do we know what happened to that man that caused his attitude ? or to someone he cares about? Two sides madam.
I think that being a woman of any religion or colour must be far worse than your problem. I have a lot of hate for men.
I don't understand the lack...of understanding of this topic. Every human being seeks the sense of belonging. Imagine being rejected by your native people and equally rejected by the environment you grew up in (because of your biological background). What do you do? You turn to those who "accept" you - who turn out to be extremists who only use you to spread hate and death.
Look beyond culture and skin colour. No child deserve hate and spit in their face, that's who you encourage them to turn on you as they grow up
You have to grow up. World is NEVER friendly. I dont care if I am accepted, I dont need that. You have to work hard for respect. This is real world. Young Arabs have to finish good schools and go for good jobs. This is how Western culture works.
No it’s not due to their biological background. It’s due to their ideological background which is more prominent that their skin color.
Robert Kelly
The immigrants from the third world are being used of course, but to me, the "man" who spat on a little girl and told her to go back where she came from, is the saddest figure in her story, because he is in such a powerless state.
The white male because of his inheritance / heritage (not privilege) is of course the ultimate target to be silenced, and every possible other source of grievance is weaponised against him, until we have this example of a grown man spitting on a little girl.
your last few words sum up the sickening mission of islam!
It's down to r
Islam, buddhists in europe cause or receive many issues, nor rastas, hindus. Common denominator Islam!
I really hate what happened to that poor 17 year old woman. I would never hesitate to defend myself. I’ll defend myself against anyone if that means against my own mother, father, older siblings, or uncles!
This is one of the greatest speeches I have ever heard! The pain caused by relying on the terms tradition and honor is a problem in so many societies. EVERYONE should see this video and listen to Deeyah Kaan's message!
I don't usually watch video's that long, but I couldn't stop listening to her. What a Brilliant Women!!
15 minutes? lol
As a Moroccan Dutch and Muslim I can relate to a lot what she’s saying (except for my family making my decisions) and find it very important what she is saying. We need to know we’re not alone in this. We might feel like we don’t fit in anywhere but we have each other and instead of pinning each other down we should be there for each other.
Arabella Imani These problems are not due to Islam in Muslim countries. These problems are due to the unIslamic culture in Muslim countries. If these countries were truly Muslim in their behaviour, these things would not happen. She needs to make this clear. This is not fuel for Islamaphobia, try to understand.
I can only imagine what it feels like for you. My parents are borth europeans but from two very different countries and even I feel like I don't belong. My culture is a mix of my parents cultures, just like yours probably is. I'm so sorry that you and so many of my friends face this kind of discrimination just for being muslim (the comments under this video make me sick) To me wearing a hijab was always normal as I live in a young, accepting german city, but I realised that just because I never witnessed the abuse of muslims in my community there still is some, my priviledge just stops me from seeing it. i wish you lots of love and strength!
@Dave 1977 that's not forsure... Where does it say he touched a child?
dave 1977: Islam is the religion of jesus so jesus is only one of the companions of the best messanger Mohammad )p.b)
So how you exactly relate?
Only TEDx speech I watched thrice... Lot to take and learn from this wonderful human ❤️
one of the most useful and underrated video I found in UA-cam and Ted talks
I hope the kurdish girl, and all other victims like her, rest in peace. Shameful that we in the west do not protect them because we are afraid being blamed of islamophia..
Yes, you're right. I think it's terrible that when it comes to human rights there's one law for Westerners and another for other nationalities. We should not view human rights from the standpoint of culture. As humans our suffering is all identical, suffering has no cultural borders. Political correctness is creating them.
Better worshipping your statues
That excuse was used with Iraq and Afghanistan. 20 years later both countries are lighter for resources, but the problems persist.
Small point - a phobia is an **irrational fear
Adam Smith pathetic. next
The BEST advice on raising children, whether one is _Muslim_ or not :
*Your children are not your children.*
They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.
*They come through you but not from you,*
And though they are with you yet they belong NOT to you.
You may give them your love but not your thoughts,
For they have their own thoughts.
You may house their bodies but not their souls,
For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow,
which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
You may strive to be like them,
but seek not to make them like you.
For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.
*You are the bows from which your children*
*as living arrows are sent forth.*
The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite,
and he bends you with his might
that his arrows may go swift and far.
Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness;
For even as he loves the arrow that flies,
so he loves also the bow that is stable.
― *Kahlil Gibran*
every new mom should read that poem.
Yes, it's good for parents to consider these things. It's not good for children to see themselves like that, though. They end up blaming everyhing that goes wrong on their parents. And it's tempting to do so cause in many ways it makes sense. All in all i would say your's is a good message for parents as for the children: ''Honour your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you... '' '''Cinsteste pe mama ta si pe tatal tau ca sa traiesti mult si bine pe pamant'' And no, I'm not a parent nor am I a 50 y old religious fundamentalist
I agree with you, that you said ' your children are not Your children ' but then disagree, In a hadith it actually says that but Your children Belong To Allah (God) We ALL do '''ina-lillahi-wa-ina-lillahi-rajiun'''
For Allah Is the Controller of Hearts...
Leena Stark nice ik this by heart bcz they teach this in 12 th preuniversity beautiful 😍😇
I agree with all she said in her speech. I'm British and proud to call my Zainab, who was born in Lebanon, an actual best friend. Because she helped me far more when my sister died than anyone I went to school with. She helped me build my courage back and even answered questions I had about her life and culture in Lebanon. If you don't barricade yourself to society, but educate yourself, its far greater.
so compelling and strong! thank you a lot
Incredible talk. This is one strong and very wise young lady. Lots of respect!
Damn ... she exposed corners of me I never knew about..... I was confused why do I have psychopathic tendencies whenever I remembered my past while I'm a pure good big hearted human being who's always helping, and needed to understand why, then she say this: 15:26
I can't be more thankful to know I was never going through such story alone :( makes me feel better...
I've come back to this a second time and it hit me just as hard again. Real words. Thank you for sharing.
One fact always is true. The first thing to go is freedom of speech. "The first victim of war is the truth." Then it will only be downhill from there on. Police state.
Deeyah,
Thank you for sharing your information. I am feeling shocked upon learning about these issues. I have to say I am also feeling embarrassed that I didn’t know or wasn’t aware of these things happening. God bless you and your work in promoting change and also for your actions to improve your own life. Thank you for this message, everyone needs to see this.
This speech will be remembered for years to come very powerful one of the best of TED talks period.
Pl go to muslim areas and tell them our father or mother do not expect us to be extremists
wow what a amazing journey to healing she made. this is so powerful and beautiful. keep on staying strong
We supported our child in a marriage of her own choice but he decided after a few weeks to throw the towel in. He divorced her and to the end of my days I will never let go of the pain and sadness he has caused us. Such an unprecedented level of deceit. May he never know a moment's peace
Well Done, A standing applause from me ! ❤ is always the answer.
Amazing! Should be required viewing for people of all backgrounds!
I wonder what state of mind you have to be in to vote this fantastically inclusive and inspiring talk down! She is literally the kind of person, who would make our world a better place if we were just able to listen and take in her message!
It’s culture that’s stops these dreams and ect not religion
It shows the level of ignorance on both sides - you can barely imagine better circumstances for growth of extremism...
@sheik DE Was it realy reply meant to my post?
Or has it been misunderstood? I meant, that unbased hate from both religious and nonreligious people is pure nnsence which pushes people to the extreme.
@sheik DE Omg. How do you think your idea would be put in place and what would happen after that?
@@barbsmart7373 ya you r right even nonreligious idea is also not good at all because an world war 3 took place after that and no one think about distruction.
@@jakubholic8769
Tena koe. I am from New Zealand.
Good to see that 40 people like your comment, mate.
I am sure most people can see that prejudice, propaganda, persecution, retaliation, fear, hatred, power and greed help lead to extremism.
Extremists have been studied quite a lot now.
They are less able to do complex brain exercises.
They are more likely to use violence. They are less likely to change their views when presented with evidence contrary to what they think is true.
Any person who comes up with ideas about criminalising entire sets of religious practises has to have a screw loose. In other words, there must be something very wrong with their thinking. So it is not surprising that the reply doesn't correspond to yours.
Any comments about harsh penalties for the strong, bold, deeply spiritual people who hold on to their faith and practises... is disturbing.
In New Zealand, we have a young Australian chap here who will be spending the rest of his life in our countriy's most secure prison.
He had some barbaric views about people and their rights to pray and live. He started acting out here in March 2019 and was caught less than 20 minutes later. Nobody even says his name here. The people he wanted us to hate, we love. They are our people, he is not. We have spread love, not hate.
(Tena koutou. My message is that if anyone has any ideas about crushing any person or religion, go and get help. Your projection of your own pain will ruin your own life. Don't treat yourself so badly.)
yet she says her father made her choice for learning music it was HIS dream !
Wow. I want to listen to this talk over and over.
What a strong human. God bless your heart with the most peace and happiness and your mind with the most wisdom and intellect. You saved lives, you are saving lives.
Thank you TEDx Talks for giving us all a voice. You nailed it Deeyah when you said that those poor souls are lost between two cultures. I for one, grew up in multicultural environment and have been dealing all my life with the likes of myself, understanding and sympathising with those who have trouble of self realization and continuously fighting their way against the hypocrisy and bigotry of the community they live in. Those who suffer from such treatment within their societies have one out of two choices; either to accept the injustice forced upon them OR leave the place all together and save their lives. This is clearly what you have managed to do and look where you stand today! hat's off and keep up the marvelous work to save many more.
Most beautiful speech, I was absolutely absorbed for these 20 minutes. Thank you Deeyah :-)
This is the best TEDeX speech in a while. Words from the heart.
For my little girl, I strive to give her all the strength she needs to achieve her goals, and to give her all the wisdom she needs to choose what her true desire is, not what she is forced into, or is convinced against her best interests.
I hope that when I leave this world one day, I remain at peace in Heaven, without worrying about my little daughter, and rest assured that she runs her life on her own, not by someone else.
Piercingly insightful, incredibly brave & absolutely inspiring! Deeyah, i echo soooo many of the thoughts & sentiments u expressed. Respect from the deepest corner of my heart...
Seems valid for much more than just Muslim Kids. Alienation is not just religion based; family has been and still is in some cases a source of trouble as much as a fountain of love, comfort and happiness all over the planet and in all cultures. The problem is not a religious one, it is a spiritual one.
Brilliantly and eloquently phrased though.
You good sir absolutely nailedit....the problem is a spiritual one.....cudos....not many can see that!!
Walter you are wise. Please make ted x presentation please.
What they need is Jesus Christ (Love). Ony Jesus could save men from fallen sins of this world
Agreed, it may go deeper than we think and many of us, not sharing her situation can still relate to her experience. The problem with the simple minded is that they can only follow the predominant stream they are born in. TThe problem with the complicated minded is that they can't even do that. ......Or something like that
I agree, but it is also encouraged by many religions. Religions by nature are isolating and inherently toxic. They served their purpose at one point in time but are obsolete now. Religion needs to fade into history. All religion.
You are a beacon of hope. Many thanks for your chutzpah, much needed. I stand with you! A ray of sunshine is what you are. Shalom, Salam.
Excellent talk. Loved all the soul-searching questions at the end. Thanks for sharing.
Let's stop using the phrase 'Honour culture'. 'Pride culture' would be more accurate.
Or dishonorable culture
Changing terminology does not help here. It is not dysfunctional families it's society which creates a requirement.
@@rutvikrs changing terminology always helps. Words are the currency of thought.
@@rutvikrs Terminology is massivly important. This is not honour, when people are threatening others in this way, it is familial abuse. To perpetuate the word honour gives it validation.
No: pride is something you feel within yourself. This is all about what the neighbours and the wider community will think.
One word "wow"! What a talk! Really thought provoking
really loved each of her words :) much related :) being Muslim and living in countries like Pakistan , India , Bangladesh , Afghanistan :) we always has been taught we r submissive :( if i dont do hijab im a hoe , weird concept seriously , when i try to explain my family i want to go to abroad for higher studies , they said yes u can , when u get married , i mean seriously :( i knw how it feels
i'm so sorry to hear that :( hope things get better to all of you 🙏🏻❤
In my classes at university I met several women from arabic countries whose parents I thought of very modern, to allow their 20 year old daughter to study in a far away country. Then I found out, they were all already married...
@@aiden4893 gosh...you need to do alot more research before posting things out of context
@@abegum622 I agree with you.
@@aiden4893 From your words i see that you did your research bad.. And i guess you didnt like your studys so you did them bad. Because what you just cited, means totally different stuff than you are interpretating. If you were born a muslim doesnt mean you are a good muslim. Theres hundreds of ayas where its written about mens responsibilities for women. And that Allah will not let men who breaks a womens heart in heaven. That men should always make peace first even if they are right. Theres so much of them. Why you didnt show even one of those? Just took a part out of context to serve your idea...
"What will people say" , well that's very common line in my country india😂
Hopefully things will get better as generations die. I recall working with a young Muslim girl who got married and when she came back to work she was clutching her side. We insisted on looking and she was full of huge bruises. She was very slightly built and we we're horrified, obviously realising what was going on. One of us said she could stay with her, another would take her to the police station but she refused both offers. I left the company shortly afterwards but I often think of what become of her. How can a parent say they love their child or let religion get in the way of allowing that to happen. It's simply unacceptable in the Western World.
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Religion is not related what so ever to that, it's culture based believes
@@samaasaleh2864 religion plays an integral part in culture and vice versa. Sure Saudi is diff from turkey or Morocco. Iran varies from Azerbaijan .....but Islam dictates every aspect of life ------- so it's even more influential in culture - home/upbringing and society
@@Tragic.Kingdom as a Muslim woman speaking, I would like to ask you to bring a verse from the Quran that says that there is either honor killing or women are forced to get married mentioned.
articulate, resilient, brilliant, compassionate, generous, educational, loving
SO strong. MUCH respect. I relate to you SO much. Inspiring.
Thanks deeply from my heart, it is a blessing to by coincindence have found Deeyah Khan, with her amaizing beautiful soul and her meaningful work!
Very powerful! Thanks and keep it up!
This was one of the most powerful things I have ever watched in my life.
You have courage, insight and compassion. I just want you to be safe. You're right about all of it. I had the same psychological.insights already, but you're so eloquent. I wish your family would be proud of you, but even if not... we are.
But she didnt bring up the Quran and the "version" that's causing them and her these problems
You raise such thoughtful and much-needed ideas. I am so happy, as a 2nd gen Muslim American, that my generation in the US is creating a non-judgmental zone for children of immigrant parents. Or at least, we are trying very hard. We are trying to include everyone and create ties, friendships and expand opportunities for young Muslims and young adults in general to be themselves.
I love this video. It’s the first one of these that seems to really speak to the original issues we all face as human beings and how they manifest particularly with young Muslims. All should be encouraged to watch this.
She’s brave and thankfully driven ... “spit was my kriptonite” badass
I have never been so inspired by someone that I listened through a video. Cannot find words to tell her impact on me. Brilliant.
Thank you for sharing this Deeyah, very insightful.
I’m sorry you experienced all that trauma! You are a superhero for surviving and thriving and turning your energy to other young people. You are the person that you needed when you were young. This has definitely influenced my way forward in my career, which I am just starting out with in college. I want to help people understand each other and how the world works. I want to help people redirect their pain into constructive things. I want people to be able to live, and not just survive pain.
Really thought-provoking and inspiring talk. You touched on the core issues of an identity crisis and sense of belonging that people yearn for. The issue is parental expectation and lack of consideration from your people to accommodate both sides of the argument, which leads to a lack of communication and distrust between family members. Parents are not happy with their children and the children are not happy with the expectations of the parents. It takes courage to find the middle ground and to discover and live with mutual understanding and respect. Your talk shared very clearly your superpower!!! I wish your superpower was more prevalent in society.
Deeyah, you are an inspiration to women. I am so proud of you! Keep up the good work. Thank you!
it has been said in Holy Quran : "there is no opression in religion" . I f there is no opression in religion , which is the basic virtue of one's life , so raising a child is no exception to that . Opression has never been and will never be a part of any human culture . If a child did not feel safe and accepted as he/she is the child will definitly seek that somewhere els and the world is wide open .
Sister Deeyah , thank you so much for your speech , and i hope this message reaches out to and inlighten as many minds out there , especially in our islamic communities .
Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness
This is what your Islam actually says
@@aries5534 a person cannot limit the meaning of a whole religion in just one verse . This verse is one of a hundred and twenty-nine verses in one chapter alone . Besides , this verse's meaning is that Allah is telling those who believe in him ( muslims) to start their battles with the non-believers who are closer to them , which is very logical if you ask me . I am quiet sure you will start fighting the nearest enemy instead of fighting an enemy who is hundreds of miles away from you . And the fact is that during the beginning of islam muslims were being killed , tourtured humiliated and dnied from their rights just because they have chosen another religion . If they showed no hardness or resistance , after the assisstance from Allah , this religion could've perished way , way long ago .
@@aries5534 You need to know the historical context behind that verse.
@@aries5534 This is getting pretty old, I think you should find something new 😅
The Quran isn't just a book of Sharia, it's also a book of History. Those verses talk about some battles in the prophet's life (don't forget that the prophet pbuh was also a military and political leader and with the words of our modern world, a president). So reading any verses of the Quran as it is on the surface and copy pasting it to use as an argument is pretty shallow. Either you search the context of the verse, build your argument and use it or never reply with this verse just like that because your argument is very weak then.
I hope you could stop causing inconvenience, thank you very much and have a nice day 🌷
@@myheartwillstopinjoy8142 If a Muslim decides she or he wants leave Islam to follow Judaism, would an imam be happy to wish him or her God's peace?
My heart dropping when she talked about Banaz because I have recently seen the story of Banaz's sister how child marriage hurt them both enormously and it was even worse because these are happening all around the world and yet it seems like very few people notice how wrong it is