Why K&N Air Filters Suck. CityBug Cold Air Intake + K&N Filter Install + Testing (C1/107/Aygo)
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- My K&N panel filter literally sucks, as in it seems to actually cause more vacuum in the inlet manifold than the standard filter. Ram air intake/cold air feed + K&N panel filter installed and tested on the Shitroen
How to properly clean + oil K&N filter
As a Yorkshire bloke of 30 odd years in the motor trade this is now one of my favourite UK car youtube channels 🤣🤣👌🏻
As a Lancashire bloke, well technically Greater Manchester now unfortunately, I’ll take that 🤣
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos greater Manchester.......poor sod 🤣
saw this absolute beast of a C1 at crompton moor today, an engineering miracle
Lent it to a mate whilst he’s fixing his own car for past couple of weeks or so, so would have been a different fat guy driving it 😂
Simply genius as usual,spat my tea out at around 3 minutes into video,wasn’t expecting car porn to slipped into this tutorial!🏆
Informative and interesting too!
Cheers mate 🤣
I don’t have a clue about cars when it comes to tuning and engines etc and i found this funny yet knowledgeable, you have gained a new sub.. fair play mate 😂😂😂
Edit: I recently bought my first car, it’s a Volvo C30 R and i have had nothing but problems obviously by previous owners who miss treated it.
Im guessing this is how I found your channel as im constantly on UA-cam atm trying to diagnose issues i have.
Thank you for a stress free take the piss video.
Glad you enjoyed the video, and thanks for watching 🤣
Another great and funny video 😂 Keep it up, especially the citybugs. I used think the performance on mine was shite but lately I've realised the trick is to excessively keep the gears low and the revs high. It's so much happier taking hills doing 80mph in 5th than 70mph ... or dropping to 4th at 70mph to accelerate up the hills. Uses more fuel but still only a 1litre engine so who cares 😂
Cheers mate, and yea they’re very long geared for the size of the engine tbh so sometimes need to drop a cog and burn more petroleum to get the shitters into the power curve.
Brilliant mate 👍, ‘not boosted, yet’ sounds interesting. Love that the horns and blow off valve remain intact.
Cheers mate 🤣
Another crackin vid Tim, only thing I was let down by was you not saying “YES!” a bit more! Cracks me up every time something goes wrong and you just shout yes! Hours of amusement from your other videos tho keep up the good work sir! Stay safe.
Thanks mate, that’s good to hear lol
Clean the filter with petrol .Gets it much cleaner and takes a couple of minutes to dry.Also I only oil the top side that faces up when in the air box cos in my head that is the side doing the filtering and it saves getting oil in the throttle body.Really enjoy your channel Thanks
Cheers. I’ve cleaned them with fuel/brake cleaner before but thought I’d use the proper shit this time 🤣
Had a K&N panel filter on a 1.4tdci fiesta the turbo whistle was more noticeable but the cleaning and oiling took a good 24 hours to do it right, if you over oil them it can cause issues to sensors along the way, stick with paper ones 👍
Yes, they’re not worth the money or the hassle they cause in my opinion tbh.
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos clever marketing and nothing anymore special than a Mann or Crossland, I had to clean the mass airflow sensor on the Fiesta as it started to get a film on it after 20,000 miles from the oil and I did it as per the destructions and it started to bring the eml on
@@joebloggs3629 I had K&N 57i induction kit on my old Volvo V70 T5. I was about 20 so of course I went for the open cone type. Kept killing MAF sensors from heat soak. Would ruin them on hot day when stuck in traffic. Pulled one out once after it had gone faulty stuck in traffic and all the rubber sealant around the edges of it had gone soft and started to melt
Try the pipercross/ramair ones, don't require cleaning and don't use oil, made of a different material and cost similar
Nice tutorial.
Excuse my ignorance but what’s the porpoise of the oil on the filter? Surely that would restrict airflow.
Cheers mate. They are designed to be oiled as that’s the main filtration. With no oil in them you can hold them upto the light and actually see through them. I admit that they are well made, but everything else about them I’m really not a fan of tbh.
What he should have said is...
'The sticky oil captures tiny dust particles that would otherwise pass through the fabric of the filter.'
@@sally6457 that’s what I said bro
How do you handle driving such a powerful car on a daily basis in traffic? Doesn't drive you mad knowing your car can do 300mph and if everyone would just get out of your way you could be home in seconds. You oiled the K&N just fine. It is supposed to be uniformly pink. Not gonna give you any gains on your car, you really need a turbo engine and a remap and it will give an improvement. They are never going to give you a really noticeable increase in power. But it should give 1 or 2 more bhp on a dyno.
Yes, it’s very frustrating that inferior vehicles don’t just move out the way. Tbh I wasn’t expecting any noticeable performance gains from the filter itself, but what I was surprised about is the map readings showing it to be worse than the normal air filter. I’m thinking that a smoother inlet may help me to get to 301mph though.
I had one of these on my Polo and I could not figure out why the shagger wouldn't tick over when it rained. Cleaned the scuttle drains, swapped dizzy cap, changed crankcase breather pipes. I eventually put a regular paper filter back in and it fixed the issue immediately. What I heard was "you need to wash and oil these things" but what I thought was "I might do that at some point". What I didn't know is you need to oil these things regularly or you might as well not have an air filter at all. They do give you a little extra intake noise, and I suppose they're fine if properly maintained but... I'm lazy and I'd rather not risk my engine running lean and breathing dirt as the oil evaporates.
Honestly, I think they are a bit shit tbh
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos They have their place on thoroughbred high performance exotic race cars such as the C1 in this video.
@@michele8039 yes, the C1 should have 2 fitted!
Hmm you seem to be missing the original K&N sticker, which is required to 'activate' the filter for maximum gains
That could be the issue!
Don't know mate
I installed a motorcycle air filter at the end you chopped off and threw away that internal air filter.
Worked fine.
Sweet. How did it sound?
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos I'd have to admit, much better.
It doesn't sound like it was gasping for air.
would you say the air duct in the grille gives any help wifh performance at all?
It definitely doesn’t hurt
@StupidBlokeStupidVideos u reckon I'll need any waterproofing to stop water getting in or does it not matter? decided to have fun with modifying my first car which is a c1
@@chonkie2159 nah. This setup should be fine. I’ve used it in heavy rain a few times
@StupidBlokeStupidVideos cheers, was gonna look at getting a panel filter but from what I've heard they are shit😂
@@chonkie2159 I don’t rate them.
Best clean way Clean it from one from the clean side not the dirty in to the filter
I usually clean them from both sides. The detergent washes the dirt out, I find that blowing it back through from the clean side only can slow the air down too much to get it all out.
Hi there, what is the diameter of scoop intake hole and of box air hole? Help!! Any link where did you buy the scoop from?? 👍
This is the one I bought, only the finest quality no expense spared. The side of the pipe is about 65mm or 2.5” if I remember right
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/394223576132?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=KgAvm18SSoW&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=B24T_G0JTKS&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos That is great, thanks a lot!!! 👍
Can anyone recommend a good branded air filter please? For a 12 plate C1
@@paullivesey6145 for the standard air box? I’d probably just go for a decent branded standard filter like a Mann, Bosch or Mahle tbh.
Thanks 👍
Just a point to remember you have the standard map on the ECU and you need the exhaust flow to be better also for all to work happily together, be good to see upgrade manifold with exhaust system with the remap and a proper smooth flow cold air feed. Just for shots and giggles.
Yea course. The main idea of this vid was to test how restrictive the filter is comparably and to see if the air duct helps. I’ve got a decat and Yaris injectors, but yes still on standard map.. for now.
I had a race mini cooper S .. on dyno with k&N super duper aifliter cold feed ...down 28bhp over standard airbox-n filter.... ffs......
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos has it passed the MOT with the de-cat?
@@phild9411 no mate. I’ll have to swap it back for the test
What's that red thing
@@Cars4life2104 it makes sik turbo noises 😎
where did you get that duct...could use one like that
It came with the whole kit off eBay, but it’s pretty shite tbh
Where did you get the ram air intake kit?
High qwolity eBay special
Another spectacular automotive technical informative instructional video 👍 you should apoly to be a lecherer at Oldham Uni, am sure they would pay you loads of money to teach the yoofs how to do stuff on their hot rods 🤣🤣
The only chance I’ve got of getting paid for this drivel is if this shit UA-cam channel takes off, and the chances of that seem somewhat unlikely 😂
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos people who dont subscribe dont know what they are missing 👍 i am trying to get more subscribers to Betty's channel but my videos arent the best 🤣🤣 yours are just ace, in a niche all on there own..........
The oil sometimes getting into maf sensor and coz idling issues
Yes they can. This car has no MAF sensor though
You call them destructions too 😂😂
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had best results from cotton filters: Cosworth are good but haver a limited range. K+N is just a mucky noisebox
I’m not a fan of K&N. They’re made to a good sturdy quality, but I don’t think the filter particularly well and they also cover everything with oil.
Boost it!
Maybe one day
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Yes.
All of these carefully crafted modifications would likely genuinely add an extra 50 - 70hp on a car that might benefit it!….. just not on a 1.0L C1. 🤔 As per usual though, 12 out of 10 for effort. 😎👍🏻
The effort score is all I strived for at school, and it’s all I strive for now.
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😁👍🏻 why don’t you drop a motorcycle engine in this car? Exceed expectations and get an A++ !!
Put more Oil on the Filter - and you get around ~ 100 Horses from the 1.0L 3cyl. Monster. More Oil = More Power. 🤥😉
I’ll drop it in a bucket of oil and throw it back into the shitter without drying it.
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos Thats the way!
Now you need a mesh on the front to stop flys a shit getting in. 😂
They are just food for the beast. It ate a pigeon the other day
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos 🤣🤣
Its gonna be good ,,, I just know it.
Im seeing that first tube as being
Ribbed for Extra Pressure
There could be a whole advertising campaign round a slogan like that.
You’re gonna be disappointed,.. I just know it.
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos
Never ,,, it will be orgasmic .
or Asthmatic , never sure .
ECU remap next? Also first!
It’s incoming, at some point 😂
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos hello good sir , how much would you charge for the airbox upgrade on my Top of the range Maybach
could you show us how to bleed the brakes for the car?
Possibly one day, depends if I ever need to do it lol
Nice 👍
Have you ever tryed nas 🤔 I guess it would probably blow up 😳😂
It’s been considered lol
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Lol i will watch this space with great anticipation 🤞🤞😜
@@B.a.S.t.A.r.D. be careful not to overestimate my capabilities and expect too much 😂
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😂👍
Hey your the man I’m sure you could bodge it to work 😉
you should take it too far, put an overkill rear wing on it or something like that
Like this one?.. 😆
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n i just put in a custom filter
Sik. What type did you use?
There's a vid ua-cam.com/video/Wmg0bzuO1Mc/v-deo.html where a guy puts nitrous oxide from a inhaler thing into a 60cc engine on a mountain bike, and it works as a boost, he doesn't add fuel and people comment that he's leaning it out. Not sure of the legality but it would be interesting to do the same to a car but add a measured amount of fuel or butane gas etc with the nitrous. Just an idea, not sure if you're that keen on destroying your engine .🤣👍😎❤️
It’s called a dry shot and you can’t add too much as it will lean it out as you’re adding more oxygen with the same amount of fuel. It’s kind of like adding a turbo and not adding a or more fuel, but instead of adding more air you’re adding the same volume but with a higher concentration of oxygen. Easily cause detonation and blow the shitter up with too much. A proper set up adds fuel with it
Cut 10 holes 10mm diametar on dirty side airbox under air filter where air come from outside you get faster touch red line this best airbox mode and keep this cold intake is good things
The idea is to have a sealed intake from the scoop at the front. I think I just need to make it more betterer.
Yes but airbox is restritc you must open with holes and engine can take more air in same time and you take fast rpm in america is full open no airbox on yours airbox air go in engine thru 4 cm hole gate it is small air volumen...
@@strma100 The idea is to get airflow from the front of the car to push the air through but that won’t work unless it’s sealed. Tbh I think the throttle body is probably the most restrictive part though
Yes bigger throttle body be nice mode
I do on my car one things more pcv valve leave on place but breather line wich go after air filter i put down to street and put cup on the hole where is conectet now oil vapor and other shit dont come in engine and i have extra power on my engine because now suck clean air more oxigen more gasoline more power for ekologic i dont care because is small engine is not airplane or ship on registration i put everything back and after tehnical inspection i put back like before pcv valve only regulation vacum in intake and crankcase oil vapor and other shit after 2500 rpm go thru breather line this is better then oil cach can
Very need for speed lol 😂👍
Satisfying the urge for need for very speed 🤣
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Lol 😂 your channel is so entertaining and educational at the same time 👍😎
@@markellis4229 not sure educational is the right word, but thanks 🤣
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Lol 😂 👍
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K&N are suitable for very high performance track race cars whose engines are rebuilt after each race. Outting these filters into a standard car will only accelerate wear on the intake valves and piston rings resulting in excessive oil consumption and evebtual loss in engine power unless yiu want to rebuild your engine regularly avoud these fikters like the plague, also although the airflow is minutely improved its not much more than a good quality OEM filter with no more than 15k miles, tge biggest loss is filtration performance which does not meet OEM specifications, period which is why you wont find these fikters in high performance cars sold by Ferrari, McClaren, Lambourghini, Porsche etc
Whilst I agree with pretty much all of what you say, they are somehow authorised to be fitted to new vehicles without voiding the warranty. I agree that they don’t filter as well as standard type filters, even when oiled correctly. The oil itself causes other issues by getting onto MAF sensors etc (which this car doesn’t have). If you watched the video until the results part, I actually found the K&N to be MORE restrictive than the “not new” stock filter that came out! This could be due to applying a little too much oil, but after a very short period of time of driving any excess oil is supposed to come off by itself,.. (which I did before carrying out the experiment) covering the intake and throttle body with oil 🙄
K&N filters are definitely manufactured to a high standard, but the design in my opinion isn’t suited to modern cars and there are much better functioning filters available. My boss has an aircraft that I work on sometimes, servicing/setting carbs up, and the regulation air filters for that are K&N.