An Automatic Gearbox In The Toyota GR86? Not As Bad As It Sounds...
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- Опубліковано 4 січ 2025
- Maybe Toyota and Subaru needed to build an automatic transmission option of the BRZ and GR86 siblings, but losing the stick shift seems against the point of such a purposefully engaging drivers' car. And yet, as younger generations seem uninterested in honing their clutch pedal shifting skills, maybe an auto version of the GR86 makes a bit more sense.
HotCars contributor Michael Van Runkle straight up did not know the GR86 even came in an automatic before this exact car arrived for review. Watch as he weighs the pros and cons of picking the traditional torque converter gearbox in a little sports car that drives on rails and corners with the best on the market today.
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These cars are so good they're even good with an automatic. Seriously, that's not a sarcastic dis or anything. There's a reason Toyota (and Subaru) sell a lot of them.
Yeah Bruh Cuz Toyota Man
Yeah nah they don't really sell much of them at all. The GR86 hasn't been out long enough to make a conclusion on this, but the GT86/BRZ definitely were not selling.
For the record, I adore this car and would 1000% buy one in manual
You’re 100% right I remember getting an Impreza back in November 2017 and the salesman was talking about how the BRZ was sitting since nobody comes to Subaru for a RWD lol
They are Subarus haha
@@CaptainBlitzevery Toyota dealership I’ve look at sells their inventory of 86’s before they even make it to the dealership
I have a '22 BRZ auto. Saw that Regular Car Reviews video on the twins, and decided to give the Pedal Commander mentioned in the video a try. Guys, it is SO worth it; it's insane how much more responsive the auto becomes!
can you send the link to where you purchased yours ?
I did the same thing
Nothing wrong with an automatic. My friend has a similar BRZ, it's a lot of fun. Automatic is just easier to drive and deal with in traffic. Where my friend lives in the DC/North Virginia area, it would be fun to have a stick when you get out of the metropolitan areas with the rolling hills. However, reality hits home once you deal with the city traffic there Lol. I can understand why my friend chose the automatic. I wouldn't mind getting one, but I prefer the practicality of my GTI. I hope they keep these cars around because they are not a lot of options for sporty cars in the $30K range. We are awash with SUV's...
Manual is for people trying to safe money, go auto is the way to go
‘24 premium AT here, I drive too many miles to be clutching constantly. Great, fun car and good value
I agree! Love my A/T BRZ
Now you can sip on your drink while you drive 😆
Slight correction at 4:15. The GR86 can be equipped from factory with Pilot Sport 4 tires, not the "4s". There is a real difference between the two, despite essentially having the same name.
Amen! So many people keep saying the GR86/BRZ come with PS4S. No. No, and No.
PS4S is about 2X the dollars of the PS4. Both PS4 and PS4S are Ultra High Performance Tires, but PS4S is has less treadwear and better dry performance.
In Australia the PS4S doesn't even come in 215/40R18. Not sporty enough to make that size.
I got the the 2023 GR86 Premium Edition. Like he is showing here. But mine also came with an amazing system. Kickers in the trunk mine came with 18”inch tires. I absolutely love it. I prefer this car with the paddle edition auto/manual and I think this car is better than a stick to me. He needs put it in track,sports mode and hit the high acc. Every video I watched they are scared of these cars. Why change the exhaust. It’s aGR. Does he even know the complete specs. I also highly recommend this over a meada or Supra. This new boxer engines are on point. Brz is closers to this car.
Mine came with the kickers also. I absolutely love this car. In the auto/man version. Pop it in sport and track mode while different ball game.
I have the 2023 premium that came with the kickers and amazing system sounds amazing the GR exhaust. I can sit here and name 15/20 specs. He did not name he needs to put it in track and sport mode with acceleration mode and this car will actually scream I recommend it. Absolutely goes great in the southern West Virginia roads 10/10.
Going back home to west Virginia and can't wait to drive mine on the back roads 😎
I have a recent disability that makes driving stick very uncomfortable. Looking forward to picking up my Neptune blue GR86 that I found for MSRP.
congratulations! I picked my automatic up from my dealership a few months ago and its an amazingly fun drive even with the automatic
the automatic is good. here's one on race track ua-cam.com/video/UY7Zv9wueMk/v-deo.html
Man I'm paralyzed and I think this car could actually give me the small sports car experience I've always wanted. Just enough room for my chair and wheels in the back and just enough car for me to handle. Lot's of aftermarket options for them too. Going to look at one tomorrow! Congrats on the new purchase and enjoy!
I have one , it's so sick ! I got it for MSRP
you'll like it !
I don’t want no turbo or sc, the throttle response is so satisfying
The Harrop Supercharger has the same instant response as NA, just wih 60% more power.
I'm so glad they make them auto, manual transition is old fashion, auto is the way yo go as a daily city driving.
Really wanted a Manual version as they are more fun to drive, but they are harder to find and it’s a longer wait to get one, plus my wife is a terrible driver and needed an automatic in case she needs to drive it for any if her car is in the shop. But my manual FRS was so much fun
I stopped at a Toyota dealer and checked it out, they wanted 42000 dollars out the door. You can't even buy a Corolla for 27 k. Where did you get the 27 k from ?
$42K?! Are you serious? These dealer markups are insane! Now is not a good time to get a new car.
I was shopping for one too and the same thing happened. I ended up with a wrx for 27k instead of the cheaper brz. Weird market.
@@dfk09there’s ways to get out of paying dealer markups.
I have the GR86 in Auto. I don't care what stats Toyota gave you that you are .4 of a second faster with a manual. You can't out shift me. I will take the Pepsi challenge your shifts are NOT even close to as fast as mine. If you are a pro race driver then maybe. Toyota lied to you guys. The Auto is nice in the snow too.
so your saying the auto is faster than the manual? What is your 0-60 clock at?
@@bj10jgo I have the auto 86. My 0-60 is around 5.6 seconds shifting manually with the paddles in track mode. The auto also has 0 rev hang unlike the manual so the up shifts are faster. Toyota definitely lied to sell more manuals. The one drawback with the auto is that at certain high speeds your down shift will be denied. So you can’t downshift to 7krpm or anything
@@ak740_my juke was like that too
@@ak740_ That's good to know, thanks for sharing. Would you show a video that proves that? I would love to see it and make this manual boys to shut up with dont buy an auto crap.. lol
@@bj10jgo yea I’ve been thinking of doing a video of it since there is none on UA-cam.
hats off to you sir 😊
bro like what, 23k ... 😂😂 ppl do want everything for nothing these days ... ayii karamba
You’re paying (assuming sticker) 28k VS 45k for the Supra. Both being the lowest trim. That’s 17,000 difference. For reference. You can buy 3 GR86 to 2 Supras. For the same money.
How are you @ around the 2 minute mark really gonna complain about less power and noise. For the extra 17,000. You can literally buy another cheap POS car. Or just dump it all on mods.
27,900 my ARSE! they want 33K for them in May 2024
don't know why people kept on comparing the 86 to supra
Well I really want a car with a manual transmission again. I love driving a manual as far as the rest… mods I don’t think so. Definitely not going to be driving like a race car driver on the street or taking it to a track. Sure I would not mind more hp but I doubt I would ever really use it. I don’t drive like I am in a race on the street. It’s not safe for me or other drivers to drive like a maniac
I'm glad to see the automatic is good enough, in that way nore people can enjoy the 86 🌚❤️ Now, of course Manual is THE BEST WAY to experience it, but this auto looks fine enough :) We have definitely come a long way from the 00s automatic sports cars 🌚💕
and the autos aremt blowing up 😂 like mt
30 Fps video is always better bro, 60 fps is not really cinematic
😍🥰
Not as bad...but still bad compared to a 6 spd...
Lol
you're right, it's not as bad as it sounds.
it's WORSE than it sounds. automatic should never have been put on these cars to begin with.