CORRECTION: The first Digimon video game was actually Digital Monster Ver. S: Digimon Tamers for the Saturn. World was the first game to release in the west!
The second half of cybersleuth felt so smt it made me happy. Also on the switch I liked that if you sleep mode it still runs your digifarms, it looks like I played for 1600 hours because of all the times I let the farm do its thing while I was at work. Great game
i kinda wish i could turn it off sometimes. i don't want to be overleveled, i want to struggle pathetically and have to fight the same boss 20 times because the area enemies give at maximum 20 xp, and yet my team is still 10 levels below the boss. you know, the classic JRPEG experience
Cyber Sleuth gave me something I had always wanted from the Pokemon games. An actual cutscene with the monsters in your party. The moment at the end when Alphamon reveals that she teamed up with your Digimon in order to bring you back as the camera spins to show your character surrounded by your entire party almost made me tear up.
Closest we've got from what I can remember is the full team photographs from HG/SS and one cutscene in US/UM where if your starter is your party before entering the Elite Four, it comes out of the pokeball and hypes you up before going in
See I had the opposite reaction. I never got particularly attached to any digimon because the ability to digivolve/dedigivolve meant I was never able to keep track of who was who as I was filling out the dex. My final team ended up being random strong digimon that I pulled from the digifarm right before battle. So when that cutscene happened, I was like "alright... sure random digimon that I never interacted with before this moment..."
Can you imagine that it took the power of the fandom to bring this outside of Japan, we wouldn't even have the new Digimon TCG out in the west if it weren't for this movement. Bless Bandai for seeing that people care!
Cyber sleuth is by far one of the most important games in the digimon revival that has been happening in the west, with the digimon card game being a critical succes and digimon survive being an absolutely amazing story, digimon has been growing a lot recently, and with the vital bracelet and more products, digimon has been enjoying more and more popularity in recent years, and the first step that they took was releasing cyber sleuth, so yeah, one of the most iconic and fun games there is for any digimon fan everybody!
The card game is also a major contributing factor. It sorta came about because Bandai just slapped Digimon into Battle Spirits to try and save that TCG, only for the reaction to be insanely positive and make them want to give Digimon its own TCG. That game was so good that the Western audience starting ordering Japanese cards and making the game annoyingly easy to play digitally through legally dodgy means, so we got it mostly to shut us up. Its currently floating somewhere around being the fourth best-selling TCG.
Except from the Anime. Considering that TOEI is obsessed with Adventure, making more sequels and even creating a reboot in 2020, which were worst than the last. Ghost Game is fine and did well, but many didn't like it because of its episodic formula. And this is also adding Last Kizuna and 02 The Beginnings, because Last Kizuna is just Tri again and The Beginnings was leaked by many who see it premiere in an event, and to put it shortly, it f*cks the whole universe of Adventure.
@@ZenSymphonia Cyber Sleuth if you want the more "collecting" digimon with good story. Survive if you want more "serious" story and creepier atmosphere because the traditional Japanese myth like the "kamikakushi" and the "digital world" is more like upgraded youkai world
"CyberSleuth is just SMT, but in a good way." You, sir, just earned yourself a subscriber. I knew that there was a reason why Devil Summoner and Persona 3~5 call to me. I still have Digimon World 3 on my "in case of boredom, play game" shelf!
CyberSleuth is crazy addicting. Digi-volving back and forth to see what new creatures you get just hits hard. I find myself recommending these two games to anyone who has an interest in pokemon. No, it's not exactly the same but if you like collecting and evolving pokemon, you will absolutely love this because there's even more collecting and evolving because of how freely you can jump between different monsters.
Not to mention the various megas and ultras to evolve too, I started on digimon before pokemon and I’ve always preferred digimon over pokemon bc of the cool character designs and diverse evolution lines for one digimon.
I like The hacker memories ending, its really make me release that the MC, Keisuke is really a normal random person that get involved by more bigger scenario, the Cyber Sleuth main story. yes the Keisuke manage to protect the Net world + Real world while the Main story MC go agains the last boss but when you reach ending, the game remind you that you already reach the goal. more of this is the Sleuth Protagonis part. But yea... its better sweet, i hope its more soft or happy for keisuke.
YES!! Cyber Sleuth and Hacker's Memory are my favorites RPGs ever. Been waiting this video ever since your mention in the What is SMT video. Even if they have more parallels with Soul Hackers, they actually inspired me to go after Devil Survivor 2 because of the similar graphic style, and that ended up becoming my second favorite RPG ever.
Just a little tip if you don’t wanna wait hours to raise your digimon, you can play the switch version and leave the game in suspended mode, it’ll continue to play in the background and your digimon will continue to be in training gaining levels. At first it confused me why I had 100 hrs after not playing for over 3 days lmao, but I realized it helps a lot of you wanna level up digimon fast.
The fact the localisation came out the same year as Uncharted 4 and Doom 2016 while still managing to sell well for a brand that had been falling behind prior is impressive. Had they waited longer to pull the trigger, it might have went up against stiff competition like Persona 5 and have a Rayman Legends situation happen with it.
I have convinced my friends into playing Cybersleuth. And they liked it. I liked it. Coming from someone who had loved Digimon series and seeing how it tackles topics much darker than Pokemon, it was a really interesting series. I used to play the crud out of Digimon World Dawn back when it came out. Back to Cybersleuth, its story was something that caught my attention and played the memory out of it. The story itself was dark and twists at the time were really cool. Now I play the Digimon TCG as well which is becoming one of my top tcg to play now.
Digimon's name isn't inspired by Pokemon's name at all. Pokemon's initial name was Pocket Monsters, not being named Pokemon until 1998. Tamagotchi is a portmanteau of tama(egg) and watch. Digimon's portmanteau name comes from the same naming convention. Tamagotchi = 1996, Digimon = 1997, and Pokemon = 1998. UA-cam is the single biggest source of gaming and japanese media misinformation. It took me less than 10 minutes to check for this information elsewhere.
@@nwcr_They’re not the same game, just that Digimon is based off of Tamagochi and she said mostly girls played it, so they created an edgier version and called it Digimon for boys to play
Pro tip get platinum sukamon its passive ability is boosting max exp earned per battle. Get 3 of them early on and once you have about 35 or 40 data size you can speed level digimon.
I'm in the middle of SMT V and have a backlog that stretches miles long, but this video singlehandedly sold me on bumping Cybersleuth up to the next game on my agenda. I've got absolutely no history with Digimon, so I'm doubly enthusiastic about finally getting to experience its world with Cybersleuth.
I remember being really let down by sword and shield and went on a tear looking for new games to scratch that itch. I found this and then Monster Hunter stories 2 and gotdamn I’m glad I did. Love the changes to the formula here and there. ESP here I loved just building a mega digimon going all the way to the end of the fusions and back and forth until I accumulated all the moves I needed. Just really pleasing stuff. Loved triple battles as the norm and the changing order on the side of the screen. It’s not perfect and it feels very stilted at times, but yeah. Big fan.
I always loved the Digimon franchise since Adventure and Cyber Sleuth were a surprise to me when they came out! I instantly bought it when I found out about it and was satisfied. I knew that they were parallels to SMT and Cyber Slueth, but I didn't think it was extensive as is. Also, I would suggest a discussion video since it would leave the comparison more open on the comparison with SMT ...if and ...if; plus Strange Journey and Annihilation.
In the Megaten comparisons you could have added that the main character got framed for a crime he didn't commit, much like Ren was accused for assault by Shido in persona 5.
It's crazy how little content there is on these amazing games. I've been thinking about how fun it would be if there was a slightly bigger community in the content creation sphere, so I really appreciate the video! Here's hoping for the giveaway.
I have to make to you a correction Macca, about the first video game, the first was Digital Monster Ver. S: Digimon Tamers. A game that came out for the Sega Saturn and was a port of the original toys to the home screen.
The first Cyber Sleuth was my first experience with Digimon(outside of renting the movie when I was very young) cause my friend recommended it to me since I enjoy monster collecting games. I was so instantly hooked and now I am a certified Digimon fan and enjoy aspects of it way more than Pokemon, a series I have grown up with and have many fond memories of. But now I have fond memories and strong attachments to the Digimon in these games. To the point where when I look for, or make a deck for the new TCG, it almost always has involved my beloved team members from my playthrough. Cyber Sleuth is a great game and honestly the game I've recommended most people start with for Digimon. (Also great video and I didn't expect to come out of it being interested in a totally different game series)
what I really love about both cyber sleuth games is how timeless they are; multiple years after the release they are imo still one of the best jrpgs for ps4 and overall one of the better turn-based rpgs of the mid-late 2010s the biggest downside for me personally was the bad localisation at some points in the game as u mentioned; all in all really love your video and commentary on cyber sleuth!
I love these games, the cybersleuth duology is in my top 5 favorite games of all time I really can’t wait for the next Story game, Survive was fantastic but the Story and World series is where my love for digimon is ❤️
Fantastic video, love to see any discussion around Digimon that isn't boiled down to it being compared to Pokemon. Also the brief history rundown in the beginning was great since it may be familiar to longtime fans but it helps outsiders feel a greater appreciation for the game. Have you gotten a chance to check out Survive yet? It totally delivers on the mature and dark storytelling front that Cyber Sleuth had to it.
Yes, not only you reaffirmed to me that I should get this game, I'm also confident that I should pay a bit more to get it physical for Switch instead of cheaper digital on Steam.
I’ve been interested in trying Cyber Sleuth for a while now ever since I got back into Digimon a couple years ago. If it weren’t for my massive back log of games I have but need to play I’d have already picked it up.
I always liked to think of the first half of it being like the monster of the week parts of the anime then the later half being your kinda more plot oriented theme.You got your Dark Masters,your Arueknimons,your D-Reapers,your Corrupted Spritd etc.
This is making me regret seeing the PS4 version on the shelf of a video game store today... and not buying it!!! I should also note that it was only $15...
Digimon was an important part of my childhood. I'm so glad we are getting quality games, I hope the trend continues so I can relive the objectively good old days.
I really hope we get another cyber sleuth-like game. As someone who is more of a pokemon fan, I really liked the digivelution and dedigivelution mechanics. Getting strong digimon felt so satisfying, and the story was decent enough.
Another thing to note about scanning is that the percentage varies depending on the classification of a Digimon. For example, a fresh Digimon will grant a much higher scanning percentage than a Mega level one. Cyber Sleuth is one of my favorite Digimon games as well as Digimon World DS and the Dawn and Dusk games. Will get into Hacker's Memory as well.
for me this game was my first introduction to digimon as i have little memory of it as a kid. and i must say, it surprised me positively. Even got me into the francise
I'm a bit late to this party, in several ways. Late to the video but also late in that I grew up with Digimon's english version, seriously disliked it for the reasons you covered (and some more you didn't), and it was literal decades later that someone convinced me to try out the Japanese version of Tamers specifically. I became a fan almost overnight. Then someone told me about CyberSleuth and it became my most played game from the last 7 years. I'm so happy that Digimon is enjoying a brief resurgence thanks to Steam releases and such. Keep it up, BancamNaido or whatever your logo is going to say next!
A (in my opinion) cool fact from Germany: Cyber Sleuth was at first only in English/Japanese, but later they brought out a free update that translated the *entire* game to German.
4:35 Digimon World was the first Digimon game... to see an international release. The ACTUAL first Digimon game was "Digital Monster Ver. S: Digimon Tamers" for Sega Saturn. 6:33 Similarly, "Digimon Savers: Another Mission" and "Digimon Championship" were released in America (yes, AMERICA, since Europe never got them nor the World DS/Dawn and Dusk) as "Digimon World: Data Squad" and "Digimon World Championship", the latter was the last Digimon console game released internationally. Funnily enough, the name of the campaign to convince Dandai Namco to release Digimon games in the West again was called "Operation Decode", in reference to "Digimon Story Re:Digitize Decode", which, to this day, is still Japan-exclusive (there are fan translations, at least). And, personally, Hacker's Memory is my favorite Digimon game, followed by Cyber Sleuth and Dawn/Dusk. I would love to see reviews of the older Digimon Story titles in the future.
Solid take! I’m in a similar boat; I’m a lifelong Pokémon AND Digimon fan, but Digimon flat-out disappeared from my country after Tamers. I’ve currently sunk 120+ hours into Cyber Sleuth purely while watching UA-cam and grinding out various Digimon into their Mega forms. For its flaws - and there are a few - it still runs and looks pretty much better than current-gen Pokémon games (saying this as a fan). But I’ve started taking screenshots every time I come across a weird localisation instance, and I may run out of space on my SD. Corner cut clean off lol.
Yes you convinced me. I get recommended Cyber Sleuth every time I go to the steam store. But I have been skeptical for years that it won't have enough depth but you sold me.
I was shocked by how good this game is. Not only is it a solid RPG in its own right, but it's easily the best Digimon RPG. It does the impossible and makes Digivolutions easy to understand.
I’ve been a Digimon fan practically my entire life. It was the one of the few things that brought me joy when I was in the hell that is private school. Data Squad felt so grown up when I was in middle school. I loved it! Still love it 😅. Played all 3 DS titles (Dawn, dusk, and DS). Cyber sleuth was my return to the franchise after putting it down for a few years.
this video reminded me that I owned this game and that I should play it... and typing that out reminded me of the like over 30 tv shows/games I still want to play/watch but every time I actually do that I watch/play about half of it then forget about it for 3-20 months.
A key franchise for both Mon-RPGs and Virtual Pets... I'm hungry for the next Story, the next World, and LUCEMON WILLING Survive 2. Also I feel like one of the most fun parts of Digimon is how the anime reinterpreted V-Pet care as analogue to self-care and in effect helped seal in the idea all Digimon media needs some level of trauma in it.
I would love a more fleshed out Survive sequel so much more than another Story or World game, especially if they drop the point-and-click adventure aspects of it and get a bit more animated.
I'm so glad someone else noticed that Arata is literally the Devil Survivor 2 protagonist, design-wise. Thought I was the only one lol Sadly, though, I have to say that you couldn't sell the game on me. But that's because I already bought the Steam version when it came out, so yeah, I love this game! And now I know why everything felt so natural to me even though I never grew up with Digimon, didn't watch the anime, etc. It really does have a lot of "SMT" in it. Even down to the hard mode with its easy enemies but damage sponges for bosses (if you're always underleveled, like me😅)
Since the sub series name is technically Digital Monster Story, isn't it like just one step away from just Digital Devil Story? The latest game Digimon Survive also has a Negotiation mechanic that lets you recruit enemy Digimon or ask for items from them too. Anyway, great video! Kind of makes me want to go back to CS myself, though I personally prefer Next 0rder over it.
I was introduced to Digimon through Cybersleuth last month, and I gotta say - I really love this game, despite its decent flaws. Being able to raise almost any Digimon, with stronger ones needing much more care and understanding about how ABI works is stupidly satisfying. Bringing your literal babies out of their shells is a mechanic much better executed in here than in Pokémon. They also nearly nailed battling, both it and raising are THE reason this game is fantastic, imo. One thing I think you should've touched more is the difficulty. Hard mode makes enemies just strong enough for you to need to consider your options, early on. Later on, you really will need to understand buffs/debuffs and the DEF/INT penetrating attacks. Sometimes it requires you to use items, but I found that it made the game that much more engaging if you want a challenge. I've just started Hacker's Memory and it's already making me drool thinking about replaying both it and Cybersleuth, experimenting with different Digimon paths and combinations. If they had skippable cutscenes, they'd be absolutely perfect for replaying.
Over the course of the last 2ish years, I've really dived deep into the Digimon franchise. Being one the mentioned "Pokemon Refugees", Digimon has that rich and very, VERY deep lore and story that Pokemon only ever scratched the surface on. I feel like I've been missing out all these years, wasting my time with the same beaten horse when there was a stallion just up over the hill.
i just played Digimon cybersleuth & im surprised of its fanbase bc i have never seen another fan who enjoys digimon as much my family does! glad to know1
It's a good game, if I can show a small bit of bias after starting over after not playing for a while there is a good amount of dialog to go through in between some sections
As an avid Pokemon fan who never played a single Digimon game (other than a little digivice...thing) and really only watched the first 3 series of Digimon, I was seriously surprised how much I love this game. I got it several months after getting Pokemon Sword and Shield. It was on discount on the Nintendo Switch and I was bored, looking for something new. Right away this "Pokemon knockoff" had: 1) full voice acting, 2) polished cutscenes, 3) THREE Digimon that follow behind you at once and 4) A serious plot with darker undertones. This is all stuff that people have complained about are missing in Pokemon games (with the exception of maybe #4 because Pokemon is pretty light hearted except in some spinoffs). After Sword and Shield, I can't help but wonder why this supposed less popular franchise put more quality into their game than Nintendo/Gamefreak did. Not to mention, I loved the soundtrack and was very happy to see I wasn't treating the Digimon as if they were Pokemon thanks to the complex type advantage system, more slots and of course the encouragement to digivolve AND dedigivolve to discover more forms. This was honestly one of the best purchases I ever made on a whim. It just stands out really well on its own.
If you can get it on PC or Switch as to put short PS4/Vita version is overall inferior as the PC/Switch version includes this and it's sequel in 1, and includes all the rebalances and QoL changes from the sequel to the original as well, making it a better package overall.
@@dmnapier7 your welcome, tho for some odd reason it also seems Namco has also removed the original Cyber Sleuth and it's DLC from PS Store for no reason, meaning you have to hunt down a physical copy and also you miss out on some DLC quests and Digimon, yet it's sequel is on there with all the content etc.
Another connection to SMT is Hudie. Hudie is represented by a blue butterfly. Blue butterflies are depicted either as representation of Philemon or Lavenza, depending on the game.
I've been playing this game for the past month. It definitely has some flaws as a game, but it's amazing being able to make all your favorite Digimon from the show and use them in game. Looking past it's flaws, I'd recommend this to anyone who's a Digimon fan or Monster collectors
digimon fan since it arrived in germany. i love digimon forever. i even play the card game. bought cyber sleuth a couple years ago and this game is awesome. everyone who likes digimon must play this. some digivolutions are a pain to get but when you got them it was worth the effort.
8:38 so thats why the cyber sleuth theme feels so familiar! Its super similar to a certain danganronpa track but i cant pick out which one. The opening part especially..
About the female character designs: I too am a straight guy who enjoys midriffs and chesticles but I feel like it was a missed opportunity to not have the skimpy outfits restricted to their Eden avatars. That wouldv'e made sense to me. Like I can see people flaunt those threads in cyberspace but it feels very jarring seeing Nokia in the real world, when comparing her to the rest of the population. It could've served as a way to separate the real world from digital but I guess Eden is supposed to feel indistinguishable
Now i want a video abour survive; what do you think about it? Also, i remember getting a classmate invested in digimon in middle school. I guess it was around 2010, and i was the classic "strange" kid in the classroom who didn't talk much, truth was, i just liked unusual things, as videogames or anime, but one day , don't remember how, ended up talking about digimon adventure anime, that i was rewatching, and that guy said "you know what? i wanna (re)watch it too". Our Italian tv had the first 3 (or maybe 4) seasons back in the early 2000 so probably a lot of kids watched it and managing to get someone back into it, really made me happy. Also check out the vital bracelet that's coming out next moth, i recently divered what those are and sure as hell i'm gonna import one.
Been shilling this game for YEARS. It's such a mind boggling good game. Once saw it described as a "real ass rpg" and that is correcr, story, music, characters, designs. All AMAZING, so happy to see it gaining traction more and more!
The benefit of the Steam/Switch edition is that it has Custom Multiplayer Lobbies for both games. IIRC only Hacker's Memory had that option, Cyber Sleuth was just Ranked PVP.
Wooohoo it's good to hear that the second half of the game picks up the pace, because I'm definitely feeling stuck in the more "boring parts" because the missions keep making me go back to the same old locations multiple times. I love monster catching games, and I play a ton of them. Including Digimon Story, Monster Hunter Stories 2, Monster Sanctuary, Pokemon of course-- Legends Arceus especially, Nexomon Extinction, and recently got Temtem. Every good monster catching game has its own identity, downs, ups, and personality.
Both cyber sleuth and hackers memory are one of best digimon games and loved gameplay and finished both games few years ago and still keep playing both of them
I loved CS but I think hacker's memory is objectively better in alot of ways and the ending resonated with me more and I felt the struggle the characters went through.
I've loved Digimon and Pokemon since they first started gaining popularity in the west, and while I certainly had more Pokemon content to choose from, I always felt like Digimon was the better of the two personally. Like you mentioned, it had an edge to it that Pokemon didn't. It wasn't afraid to look at the darker sides of what it's content meant, while Pokemon remained content for kids that adults just happened to enjoy. As I've grown up, I've come to appreciate that edge more and more because it almost feels like the IP has grown with me, rather than remaining as something only intended for kids. Whereas Pokemon has seemed afraid of showing the challenging aspects of the in world reality, Digimon didn't shy away from that. Cyber Sleuth and Hacker's Memory both were absolutely incredible IMO and they were exactly the type of thing I wanted in terms of a game. It reminded me heavily of Digimon World 4, which back in the days of the PSone was my SHIT! Seriously, I couldn't tell you how many hours I sank into playing that game over and over. I sincerely hope that they continue to develop more games in this kind of style. While Digimon Survive was interesting, to me games set up like CS and HM will always be the best. Especially when the game doesn't kill my digi-friends unnecessarily and force me to start back over with them 🙃 seriously, I couldn't finish Next Order because it got on my nerves so much.
I dug Hacker's Memory more as it let you start with Betamon, which actually digivolved into Airdramon. But yeah, it's great and it is basically Soul Hackers. Regarding the "death" of Digimon, it actually went dormant twice, once after the Pendulum X era for about a year, and then again after Xros Wars for like a few years. Of course, during those gaps there were still things like video games and the like, so the franchise has been roughly continuously pumping stuff out the whole time, but there was definitely a period when their original core audience got too old and they had skewed so dark that new kids weren't jumping on, especially after the Pendulum X situation. But now that initial audience has wrapped back around from nostalgia and Digimon has only continued to grow up with them, and as a result the brand has ballooned. They're pumping out a new generation of pets every year, and the number of dim cards for the VB is frankly frightening. Add to that the regular sequel movies to the old cartoons and Ghost Game, plus the long awaited release of Survive, Digimon is thriving. Pokemon, on the other hand, is at this point an empty, shambling corpse. I still love the original game and it's sequel, they truly are classics in the genre, but despite the money the brand still takes in, the actual video games these days are just ridiculous. Megaten and Digimon are in every way the best option for people looking for mon games these days, as they just keep getting better while Pokemon festers and stagnates. ...and also Palworld. Palworld looks awesome.
I died with the arata design comparison lmao. As can be seen in my profile image, I'm a super fan of Devil survivor and realized instantly the similarities between the character designs when I started playing DCS. Just want to correct you in the beginning for saying Digimon is a copy of Pokemon. While the franchise has a history of trying to copy pokemon before as you said, the origins of both are completely separated. The original names can show that as, pokemon was known as pocket monster for a long time before coming to west as pokemon while digimon started as virtual pets in the time of the tamagoshi style, but it's right to say that it became digimon because of Pokemon, since there's not prove otherwise. Great video!!
Have you seen the TCG game they made in 2020, it have some really interesting mechanics that feel and play in a original way. its sad to see digimon not receiving the attention that it deserves, the story from some of the quests are so mature and actually try to show the dangers of this kind of scenario, ill never forget the questline where a corporation uses digimon to make people "stuck" in eden with their "soul mate" so they can get in their house and kidnap them, the game has some really well thought stuff that really stand out to me when i played it for the first time.
I started this game years ago when it released but never finished it. I did recently pick up the steam version on a sale, maybe this video is what finally push me back to trying to finish it one and for all!
wow. what a great review/essay. well done. and yes. i'm getting it today at my local retro game store. but it will be ps4 because that's what they have right now.
CORRECTION: The first Digimon video game was actually Digital Monster Ver. S: Digimon Tamers for the Saturn. World was the first game to release in the west!
Hey, Macc? Thanks for giving attention to Cyber Sleuth :)
Forgive me but you gone to Digimon world 2 and skipped Digimon world 3 ans 2003 for some unknown reason🤨
Another correction : Digimon did _not_ imitate Pokemon's name, since it was just called "Pocket Monsters" at the time.
@@miwestraveler3986 Dhey didnt but they bouth haved ending name with ''MON'':)
@@milosnovakovic1724 The point is, Digimon never copied Pokemon.
The second half of cybersleuth felt so smt it made me happy.
Also on the switch I liked that if you sleep mode it still runs your digifarms, it looks like I played for 1600 hours because of all the times I let the farm do its thing while I was at work. Great game
I found that trick early in my play through, so I had megas by like chapter 6.
@@dustychicken1898 yeah my playthrough of hackers memory is busted early because of it
i kinda wish i could turn it off sometimes. i don't want to be overleveled, i want to struggle pathetically and have to fight the same boss 20 times because the area enemies give at maximum 20 xp, and yet my team is still 10 levels below the boss.
you know, the classic JRPEG experience
@@kasagure.well, you can, either stop the game or leave them at bank instead of farm no?
Cyber Sleuth gave me something I had always wanted from the Pokemon games. An actual cutscene with the monsters in your party. The moment at the end when Alphamon reveals that she teamed up with your Digimon in order to bring you back as the camera spins to show your character surrounded by your entire party almost made me tear up.
Closest we've got from what I can remember is the full team photographs from HG/SS and one cutscene in US/UM where if your starter is your party before entering the Elite Four, it comes out of the pokeball and hypes you up before going in
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There's also the cutscene right after you choose your starter, where you go home and see your Pokemon befriend your mom's Meowth
@@kanchomerocks12 in general, the starter got a lot more of interactivity in USUM
And the cutscene where Alphamon showed up made me yell because it was dope
See I had the opposite reaction. I never got particularly attached to any digimon because the ability to digivolve/dedigivolve meant I was never able to keep track of who was who as I was filling out the dex. My final team ended up being random strong digimon that I pulled from the digifarm right before battle. So when that cutscene happened, I was like "alright... sure random digimon that I never interacted with before this moment..."
Can you imagine that it took the power of the fandom to bring this outside of Japan, we wouldn't even have the new Digimon TCG out in the west if it weren't for this movement.
Bless Bandai for seeing that people care!
If only Bamco was like that with Survive
@@Venom3254 survive was a weird one, but I know a few visual novel enthusiasts that loved it.
@@Cybershroom As a RPG and VN enthousiast, Survive is on my wishlist !
@@Venom3254 Survive recently hit 500k sales, and apparently surpassed expectations by far :D
As a current addict of the tcg, bless.
Cyber sleuth is by far one of the most important games in the digimon revival that has been happening in the west, with the digimon card game being a critical succes and digimon survive being an absolutely amazing story, digimon has been growing a lot recently, and with the vital bracelet and more products, digimon has been enjoying more and more popularity in recent years, and the first step that they took was releasing cyber sleuth, so yeah, one of the most iconic and fun games there is for any digimon fan everybody!
It's also getting a new dubbed anime in digimon 2020
I love Cyber Sleuth
what are you talking about? digimon survive flopped really bad
@@Carcosahead that may be true but it doesn't take away from the fact that the game is very good
@@Joskuo yeah, I mean the game seems good and is a miracle it even had a release, but it just doesn’t sold well
Nokia surprising everyone with Omegamon only to then go ""... nani!?" is one of my favorite scenes on the franchise to this day XD
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I was wondering when the Omnimon scene happened. Can't forget the "...nani?" though lmaooo
Nokia in a nutshell she did the most badass thing then she dint even know what she did which is funny.
I really love this Digimon renaissance we're going through lately, and all thanks to Cyber Sleuth.
The card game is also a major contributing factor. It sorta came about because Bandai just slapped Digimon into Battle Spirits to try and save that TCG, only for the reaction to be insanely positive and make them want to give Digimon its own TCG.
That game was so good that the Western audience starting ordering Japanese cards and making the game annoyingly easy to play digitally through legally dodgy means, so we got it mostly to shut us up. Its currently floating somewhere around being the fourth best-selling TCG.
@@Twilord_It's better selling than Vanguard and DBS.
Except from the Anime. Considering that TOEI is obsessed with Adventure, making more sequels and even creating a reboot in 2020, which were worst than the last. Ghost Game is fine and did well, but many didn't like it because of its episodic formula.
And this is also adding Last Kizuna and 02 The Beginnings, because Last Kizuna is just Tri again and The Beginnings was leaked by many who see it premiere in an event, and to put it shortly, it f*cks the whole universe of Adventure.
I can’t decide between Cyber Sleuth or Digimon survive
@@ZenSymphonia Cyber Sleuth if you want the more "collecting" digimon with good story. Survive if you want more "serious" story and creepier atmosphere because the traditional Japanese myth like the "kamikakushi" and the "digital world" is more like upgraded youkai world
"CyberSleuth is just SMT, but in a good way." You, sir, just earned yourself a subscriber. I knew that there was a reason why Devil Summoner and Persona 3~5 call to me. I still have Digimon World 3 on my "in case of boredom, play game" shelf!
I played 2003 not long after it came out here in the UK!
CyberSleuth is crazy addicting. Digi-volving back and forth to see what new creatures you get just hits hard. I find myself recommending these two games to anyone who has an interest in pokemon. No, it's not exactly the same but if you like collecting and evolving pokemon, you will absolutely love this because there's even more collecting and evolving because of how freely you can jump between different monsters.
Not to mention the various megas and ultras to evolve too, I started on digimon before pokemon and I’ve always preferred digimon over pokemon bc of the cool character designs and diverse evolution lines for one digimon.
The game good but dont like the ending lol
I like The hacker memories ending, its really make me release that the MC, Keisuke is really a normal random person that get involved by more bigger scenario, the Cyber Sleuth main story. yes the Keisuke manage to protect the Net world + Real world while the Main story MC go agains the last boss but when you reach ending, the game remind you that you already reach the goal. more of this is the Sleuth Protagonis part.
But yea... its better sweet, i hope its more soft or happy for keisuke.
This game made me realize digimon and megaten are very similar with some monster designs and stuff lol. Cool video!
Yeah, I got the serious "clear inspiration" vibes from Cyber Sleuth and I've never even played any Shin Megami Tensei or Persona game!
@@CD-Gaming I would like to recommend you them! They are wonderful games and if you liked Cybersleuth you might like SMT!
Smt had served as the major inspiration for digimon since its inception so it checks out
Love Cyber Sleuth games - I think they're fun little games. And that's awesome of you to give away your oops order.
YES!! Cyber Sleuth and Hacker's Memory are my favorites RPGs ever.
Been waiting this video ever since your mention in the What is SMT video.
Even if they have more parallels with Soul Hackers, they actually inspired me to go after Devil Survivor 2 because of the similar graphic style, and that ended up becoming my second favorite RPG ever.
Just a little tip if you don’t wanna wait hours to raise your digimon, you can play the switch version and leave the game in suspended mode, it’ll continue to play in the background and your digimon will continue to be in training gaining levels. At first it confused me why I had 100 hrs after not playing for over 3 days lmao, but I realized it helps a lot of you wanna level up digimon fast.
Honestly I hated that because I like having the actual time I played but now that you say this(it explains why I'm op) I'm kinda thankful for it.
@@iancasleton6356 it surely help with some bosses that were difficult just because of stupid stats or unfair advantages lmao.
The fact the localisation came out the same year as Uncharted 4 and Doom 2016 while still managing to sell well for a brand that had been falling behind prior is impressive. Had they waited longer to pull the trigger, it might have went up against stiff competition like Persona 5 and have a Rayman Legends situation happen with it.
Nah. Too mid.
I have convinced my friends into playing Cybersleuth. And they liked it. I liked it. Coming from someone who had loved Digimon series and seeing how it tackles topics much darker than Pokemon, it was a really interesting series. I used to play the crud out of Digimon World Dawn back when it came out. Back to Cybersleuth, its story was something that caught my attention and played the memory out of it. The story itself was dark and twists at the time were really cool. Now I play the Digimon TCG as well which is becoming one of my top tcg to play now.
I LOVE HOW MUCH LOVE THE DIGIMON GAMES HAVE BEEN GETTING LATELY
Digimon's name isn't inspired by Pokemon's name at all. Pokemon's initial name was Pocket Monsters, not being named Pokemon until 1998. Tamagotchi is a portmanteau of tama(egg) and watch. Digimon's portmanteau name comes from the same naming convention. Tamagotchi = 1996, Digimon = 1997, and Pokemon = 1998. UA-cam is the single biggest source of gaming and japanese media misinformation. It took me less than 10 minutes to check for this information elsewhere.
Ok but dumb question, how did the tamagotchi name turn into digimon?
@@nwcr_They’re not the same game, just that Digimon is based off of Tamagochi and she said mostly girls played it, so they created an edgier version and called it Digimon for boys to play
The combo Cyber Sleuth/Haker's Memory is currently my favorite set Digimon games. I'm so thankful we got it in the west.
~ Adam
Pro tip get platinum sukamon its passive ability is boosting max exp earned per battle. Get 3 of them early on and once you have about 35 or 40 data size you can speed level digimon.
I'm in the middle of SMT V and have a backlog that stretches miles long, but this video singlehandedly sold me on bumping Cybersleuth up to the next game on my agenda. I've got absolutely no history with Digimon, so I'm doubly enthusiastic about finally getting to experience its world with Cybersleuth.
I remember being really let down by sword and shield and went on a tear looking for new games to scratch that itch.
I found this and then Monster Hunter stories 2 and gotdamn I’m glad I did.
Love the changes to the formula here and there.
ESP here I loved just building a mega digimon going all the way to the end of the fusions and back and forth until I accumulated all the moves I needed.
Just really pleasing stuff. Loved triple battles as the norm and the changing order on the side of the screen.
It’s not perfect and it feels very stilted at times, but yeah. Big fan.
I always loved the Digimon franchise since Adventure and Cyber Sleuth were a surprise to me when they came out! I instantly bought it when I found out about it and was satisfied. I knew that they were parallels to SMT and Cyber Slueth, but I didn't think it was extensive as is. Also, I would suggest a discussion video since it would leave the comparison more open on the comparison with SMT ...if and ...if; plus Strange Journey and Annihilation.
In the Megaten comparisons you could have added that the main character got framed for a crime he didn't commit, much like Ren was accused for assault by Shido in persona 5.
man i wish you made videos more often. your editing is so good and funny
Thank you! I wish I could do that also, but things like work and real life stuff just screw that up :/
@@Macca understandable, King. Know our appreciation of your humor is just that, and we also value your sanity too lol so no worries
@@Macca nice a casual cooper shout out I actually subbed to his yt channel
I love everything about Digimon!
The anime, the videogames, the card game, the soundtrack, the monster design, the storys. Everything! ❤️
I loved this game when it came out. It helps that it feels like a Summer Wars spiritual successor.
It's crazy how little content there is on these amazing games. I've been thinking about how fun it would be if there was a slightly bigger community in the content creation sphere, so I really appreciate the video! Here's hoping for the giveaway.
I have to make to you a correction Macca, about the first video game, the first was Digital Monster Ver. S: Digimon Tamers.
A game that came out for the Sega Saturn and was a port of the original toys to the home screen.
The first Cyber Sleuth was my first experience with Digimon(outside of renting the movie when I was very young) cause my friend recommended it to me since I enjoy monster collecting games. I was so instantly hooked and now I am a certified Digimon fan and enjoy aspects of it way more than Pokemon, a series I have grown up with and have many fond memories of. But now I have fond memories and strong attachments to the Digimon in these games. To the point where when I look for, or make a deck for the new TCG, it almost always has involved my beloved team members from my playthrough. Cyber Sleuth is a great game and honestly the game I've recommended most people start with for Digimon. (Also great video and I didn't expect to come out of it being interested in a totally different game series)
what I really love about both cyber sleuth games is how timeless they are; multiple years after the release they are imo still one of the best jrpgs for ps4 and overall one of the better turn-based rpgs of the mid-late 2010s
the biggest downside for me personally was the bad localisation at some points in the game as u mentioned; all in all really love your video and commentary on cyber sleuth!
I love these games, the cybersleuth duology is in my top 5 favorite games of all time
I really can’t wait for the next Story game, Survive was fantastic but the Story and World series is where my love for digimon is ❤️
Fantastic video, love to see any discussion around Digimon that isn't boiled down to it being compared to Pokemon. Also the brief history rundown in the beginning was great since it may be familiar to longtime fans but it helps outsiders feel a greater appreciation for the game. Have you gotten a chance to check out Survive yet? It totally delivers on the mature and dark storytelling front that Cyber Sleuth had to it.
Yes, not only you reaffirmed to me that I should get this game, I'm also confident that I should pay a bit more to get it physical for Switch instead of cheaper digital on Steam.
I remember the anticipation and wait for this one to leave Japan with the demand for a localisation being high. Actually playing through it right now.
I’ve been interested in trying Cyber Sleuth for a while now ever since I got back into Digimon a couple years ago. If it weren’t for my massive back log of games I have but need to play I’d have already picked it up.
I always liked to think of the first half of it being like the monster of the week parts of the anime then the later half being your kinda more plot oriented theme.You got your Dark Masters,your Arueknimons,your D-Reapers,your Corrupted Spritd etc.
I always wanted more of these games , cyber sleuth was the thing that made me fall in love with digimon again
This is making me regret seeing the PS4 version on the shelf of a video game store today... and not buying it!!! I should also note that it was only $15...
The switch version fixed alot of the text errors and id love a vid on your thoughts on survive
Before watching the vid I'm gonna tell you chief... I'm already sold
Both games of Cybersleuth are great and I hope they make more games with this gameplay in mind.
Ty for the rundown! As a kid I played sm Digimon World DS and I absolutely wanna relive the love for Digimon so I'll def be trying Cyber Sleuth!
Such an amazing game. Both of them were great. Haven’t finished survive but love it so far too. Huge digimon fan
Digimon was an important part of my childhood. I'm so glad we are getting quality games, I hope the trend continues so I can relive the objectively good old days.
I really hope we get another cyber sleuth-like game. As someone who is more of a pokemon fan, I really liked the digivelution and dedigivelution mechanics. Getting strong digimon felt so satisfying, and the story was decent enough.
Another thing to note about scanning is that the percentage varies depending on the classification of a Digimon. For example, a fresh Digimon will grant a much higher scanning percentage than a Mega level one. Cyber Sleuth is one of my favorite Digimon games as well as Digimon World DS and the Dawn and Dusk games. Will get into Hacker's Memory as well.
Ah yes, I need to finish both games
for me this game was my first introduction to digimon as i have little memory of it as a kid. and i must say, it surprised me positively. Even got me into the francise
Digimon could really use an adult focused reboot by like, Studio Trigger or something. Medabots too while I'm at it.
I'm a bit late to this party, in several ways. Late to the video but also late in that I grew up with Digimon's english version, seriously disliked it for the reasons you covered (and some more you didn't), and it was literal decades later that someone convinced me to try out the Japanese version of Tamers specifically. I became a fan almost overnight. Then someone told me about CyberSleuth and it became my most played game from the last 7 years. I'm so happy that Digimon is enjoying a brief resurgence thanks to Steam releases and such. Keep it up, BancamNaido or whatever your logo is going to say next!
A (in my opinion) cool fact from Germany: Cyber Sleuth was at first only in English/Japanese, but later they brought out a free update that translated the *entire* game to German.
4:35 Digimon World was the first Digimon game... to see an international release. The ACTUAL first Digimon game was "Digital Monster Ver. S: Digimon Tamers" for Sega Saturn.
6:33 Similarly, "Digimon Savers: Another Mission" and "Digimon Championship" were released in America (yes, AMERICA, since Europe never got them nor the World DS/Dawn and Dusk) as "Digimon World: Data Squad" and "Digimon World Championship", the latter was the last Digimon console game released internationally.
Funnily enough, the name of the campaign to convince Dandai Namco to release Digimon games in the West again was called "Operation Decode", in reference to "Digimon Story Re:Digitize Decode", which, to this day, is still Japan-exclusive (there are fan translations, at least).
And, personally, Hacker's Memory is my favorite Digimon game, followed by Cyber Sleuth and Dawn/Dusk. I would love to see reviews of the older Digimon Story titles in the future.
It sucks I could never get the ending to Dawn and Dusk because I had to emulate it and to complete it you had to connect to Wifi.
Solid take! I’m in a similar boat; I’m a lifelong Pokémon AND Digimon fan, but Digimon flat-out disappeared from my country after Tamers.
I’ve currently sunk 120+ hours into Cyber Sleuth purely while watching UA-cam and grinding out various Digimon into their Mega forms. For its flaws - and there are a few - it still runs and looks pretty much better than current-gen Pokémon games (saying this as a fan).
But I’ve started taking screenshots every time I come across a weird localisation instance, and I may run out of space on my SD. Corner cut clean off lol.
Yes you convinced me. I get recommended Cyber Sleuth every time I go to the steam store. But I have been skeptical for years that it won't have enough depth but you sold me.
I was shocked by how good this game is. Not only is it a solid RPG in its own right, but it's easily the best Digimon RPG. It does the impossible and makes Digivolutions easy to understand.
I’ve been a Digimon fan practically my entire life. It was the one of the few things that brought me joy when I was in the hell that is private school. Data Squad felt so grown up when I was in middle school. I loved it! Still love it 😅. Played all 3 DS titles (Dawn, dusk, and DS). Cyber sleuth was my return to the franchise after putting it down for a few years.
this video reminded me that I owned this game and that I should play it... and typing that out reminded me of the like over 30 tv shows/games I still want to play/watch but every time I actually do that I watch/play about half of it then forget about it for 3-20 months.
A key franchise for both Mon-RPGs and Virtual Pets...
I'm hungry for the next Story, the next World, and LUCEMON WILLING Survive 2.
Also I feel like one of the most fun parts of Digimon is how the anime reinterpreted V-Pet care as analogue to self-care and in effect helped seal in the idea all Digimon media needs some level of trauma in it.
I would love a more fleshed out Survive sequel so much more than another Story or World game, especially if they drop the point-and-click adventure aspects of it and get a bit more animated.
Love this game
I'm so glad someone else noticed that Arata is literally the Devil Survivor 2 protagonist, design-wise. Thought I was the only one lol
Sadly, though, I have to say that you couldn't sell the game on me. But that's because I already bought the Steam version when it came out, so yeah, I love this game!
And now I know why everything felt so natural to me even though I never grew up with Digimon, didn't watch the anime, etc.
It really does have a lot of "SMT" in it. Even down to the hard mode with its easy enemies but damage sponges for bosses (if you're always underleveled, like me😅)
Since the sub series name is technically Digital Monster Story, isn't it like just one step away from just Digital Devil Story?
The latest game Digimon Survive also has a Negotiation mechanic that lets you recruit enemy Digimon or ask for items from them too.
Anyway, great video! Kind of makes me want to go back to CS myself, though I personally prefer Next 0rder over it.
I wish N0 was ported to PC too.
I was introduced to Digimon through Cybersleuth last month, and I gotta say - I really love this game, despite its decent flaws. Being able to raise almost any Digimon, with stronger ones needing much more care and understanding about how ABI works is stupidly satisfying. Bringing your literal babies out of their shells is a mechanic much better executed in here than in Pokémon. They also nearly nailed battling, both it and raising are THE reason this game is fantastic, imo.
One thing I think you should've touched more is the difficulty. Hard mode makes enemies just strong enough for you to need to consider your options, early on. Later on, you really will need to understand buffs/debuffs and the DEF/INT penetrating attacks. Sometimes it requires you to use items, but I found that it made the game that much more engaging if you want a challenge.
I've just started Hacker's Memory and it's already making me drool thinking about replaying both it and Cybersleuth, experimenting with different Digimon paths and combinations. If they had skippable cutscenes, they'd be absolutely perfect for replaying.
There's a mod that lets you skip cutscenes.
@@YujiUedaFan Mine is switch, but honestly thinking to get it on PC to replay and play around with mods
Over the course of the last 2ish years, I've really dived deep into the Digimon franchise. Being one the mentioned "Pokemon Refugees", Digimon has that rich and very, VERY deep lore and story that Pokemon only ever scratched the surface on. I feel like I've been missing out all these years, wasting my time with the same beaten horse when there was a stallion just up over the hill.
You should be the first person on UA-cam to do a full story summary of cyber sleuth and Hackers memories
i just played Digimon cybersleuth & im surprised of its fanbase bc i have never seen another fan who enjoys digimon as much my family does! glad to know1
It's a good game, if I can show a small bit of bias after starting over after not playing for a while there is a good amount of dialog to go through in between some sections
As an avid Pokemon fan who never played a single Digimon game (other than a little digivice...thing) and really only watched the first 3 series of Digimon, I was seriously surprised how much I love this game. I got it several months after getting Pokemon Sword and Shield. It was on discount on the Nintendo Switch and I was bored, looking for something new.
Right away this "Pokemon knockoff" had: 1) full voice acting, 2) polished cutscenes, 3) THREE Digimon that follow behind you at once and 4) A serious plot with darker undertones. This is all stuff that people have complained about are missing in Pokemon games (with the exception of maybe #4 because Pokemon is pretty light hearted except in some spinoffs). After Sword and Shield, I can't help but wonder why this supposed less popular franchise put more quality into their game than Nintendo/Gamefreak did.
Not to mention, I loved the soundtrack and was very happy to see I wasn't treating the Digimon as if they were Pokemon thanks to the complex type advantage system, more slots and of course the encouragement to digivolve AND dedigivolve to discover more forms. This was honestly one of the best purchases I ever made on a whim. It just stands out really well on its own.
Love how this video popped up right after I just finished replaying this game
This is the type of Digimon game I've been looking for. I saw it on psn store and getting it on next payday thanks to you.
If you can get it on PC or Switch as to put short PS4/Vita version is overall inferior as the PC/Switch version includes this and it's sequel in 1, and includes all the rebalances and QoL changes from the sequel to the original as well, making it a better package overall.
@@V-Jes Thanks for telling me but I only got a ps4 🥲
@@dmnapier7 your welcome, tho for some odd reason it also seems Namco has also removed the original Cyber Sleuth and it's DLC from PS Store for no reason, meaning you have to hunt down a physical copy and also you miss out on some DLC quests and Digimon, yet it's sequel is on there with all the content etc.
Another connection to SMT is Hudie. Hudie is represented by a blue butterfly. Blue butterflies are depicted either as representation of Philemon or Lavenza, depending on the game.
Cyber Sleuth is a good middle ground for a Pokémon fan transitioning over to SMT. Especially esthetically
Was Drake bell really in a Pokémon gbcolor commercial?
I've played Cybersleuth (both of them) each like 4 times.
I love this game to bits man.
I've been playing this game for the past month. It definitely has some flaws as a game, but it's amazing being able to make all your favorite Digimon from the show and use them in game. Looking past it's flaws, I'd recommend this to anyone who's a Digimon fan or Monster collectors
digimon fan since it arrived in germany. i love digimon forever. i even play the card game. bought cyber sleuth a couple years ago and this game is awesome. everyone who likes digimon must play this. some digivolutions are a pain to get but when you got them it was worth the effort.
8:38 so thats why the cyber sleuth theme feels so familiar! Its super similar to a certain danganronpa track but i cant pick out which one. The opening part especially..
About the female character designs: I too am a straight guy who enjoys midriffs and chesticles but I feel like it was a missed opportunity to not have the skimpy outfits restricted to their Eden avatars. That wouldv'e made sense to me. Like I can see people flaunt those threads in cyberspace but it feels very jarring seeing Nokia in the real world, when comparing her to the rest of the population.
It could've served as a way to separate the real world from digital but I guess Eden is supposed to feel indistinguishable
very nice video! plenty of info, and a very good review/opinion and analysis of the game. I bought it for nintendo switch
I love digimon cyber sleuth so much if you did a play through id watch it all
Now i want a video abour survive; what do you think about it?
Also, i remember getting a classmate invested in digimon in middle school. I guess it was around 2010, and i was the classic "strange" kid in the classroom who didn't talk much, truth was, i just liked unusual things, as videogames or anime, but one day , don't remember how, ended up talking about digimon adventure anime, that i was rewatching, and that guy said "you know what? i wanna (re)watch it too". Our Italian tv had the first 3 (or maybe 4) seasons back in the early 2000 so probably a lot of kids watched it and managing to get someone back into it, really made me happy. Also check out the vital bracelet that's coming out next moth, i recently divered what those are and sure as hell i'm gonna import one.
Had to check and make sure I was still subbed to you, I don't remember this popping up in my feed
Been shilling this game for YEARS. It's such a mind boggling good game.
Once saw it described as a "real ass rpg" and that is correcr, story, music, characters, designs. All AMAZING, so happy to see it gaining traction more and more!
The benefit of the Steam/Switch edition is that it has Custom Multiplayer Lobbies for both games. IIRC only Hacker's Memory had that option, Cyber Sleuth was just Ranked PVP.
Wooohoo it's good to hear that the second half of the game picks up the pace, because I'm definitely feeling stuck in the more "boring parts" because the missions keep making me go back to the same old locations multiple times.
I love monster catching games, and I play a ton of them. Including Digimon Story, Monster Hunter Stories 2, Monster Sanctuary, Pokemon of course-- Legends Arceus especially, Nexomon Extinction, and recently got Temtem. Every good monster catching game has its own identity, downs, ups, and personality.
Both cyber sleuth and hackers memory are one of best digimon games and loved gameplay and finished both games few years ago and still keep playing both of them
I loved CS but I think hacker's memory is objectively better in alot of ways and the ending resonated with me more and I felt the struggle the characters went through.
I wish I could complete hackers memory but I'm genuinly stuck right now. The board type battles are a pain for me sadly.
Great video, literally just bought Cyber Sleuth and will be trying to beat it by the time Pokémon SV comes out. Thanks for making this!
Bro, the competitive aspect of Cyber Sleuth is even better than Pokémon! You should explore that ;)
I'm so glad they made this game! Really a gem, I'm so addicted
I've loved Digimon and Pokemon since they first started gaining popularity in the west, and while I certainly had more Pokemon content to choose from, I always felt like Digimon was the better of the two personally. Like you mentioned, it had an edge to it that Pokemon didn't. It wasn't afraid to look at the darker sides of what it's content meant, while Pokemon remained content for kids that adults just happened to enjoy.
As I've grown up, I've come to appreciate that edge more and more because it almost feels like the IP has grown with me, rather than remaining as something only intended for kids. Whereas Pokemon has seemed afraid of showing the challenging aspects of the in world reality, Digimon didn't shy away from that.
Cyber Sleuth and Hacker's Memory both were absolutely incredible IMO and they were exactly the type of thing I wanted in terms of a game. It reminded me heavily of Digimon World 4, which back in the days of the PSone was my SHIT! Seriously, I couldn't tell you how many hours I sank into playing that game over and over.
I sincerely hope that they continue to develop more games in this kind of style. While Digimon Survive was interesting, to me games set up like CS and HM will always be the best.
Especially when the game doesn't kill my digi-friends unnecessarily and force me to start back over with them 🙃 seriously, I couldn't finish Next Order because it got on my nerves so much.
Started playing it while I wait for Jedi Survivor and I'm hooked. Gonna have so much fun getting a rise greymon. Data Squad goated.
why dose eden plot sounds like the plot to summer wars
I dug Hacker's Memory more as it let you start with Betamon, which actually digivolved into Airdramon. But yeah, it's great and it is basically Soul Hackers. Regarding the "death" of Digimon, it actually went dormant twice, once after the Pendulum X era for about a year, and then again after Xros Wars for like a few years. Of course, during those gaps there were still things like video games and the like, so the franchise has been roughly continuously pumping stuff out the whole time, but there was definitely a period when their original core audience got too old and they had skewed so dark that new kids weren't jumping on, especially after the Pendulum X situation. But now that initial audience has wrapped back around from nostalgia and Digimon has only continued to grow up with them, and as a result the brand has ballooned. They're pumping out a new generation of pets every year, and the number of dim cards for the VB is frankly frightening. Add to that the regular sequel movies to the old cartoons and Ghost Game, plus the long awaited release of Survive, Digimon is thriving.
Pokemon, on the other hand, is at this point an empty, shambling corpse. I still love the original game and it's sequel, they truly are classics in the genre, but despite the money the brand still takes in, the actual video games these days are just ridiculous. Megaten and Digimon are in every way the best option for people looking for mon games these days, as they just keep getting better while Pokemon festers and stagnates.
...and also Palworld. Palworld looks awesome.
9:45 is that why the localization was so weird 😂
I died with the arata design comparison lmao. As can be seen in my profile image, I'm a super fan of Devil survivor and realized instantly the similarities between the character designs when I started playing DCS.
Just want to correct you in the beginning for saying Digimon is a copy of Pokemon. While the franchise has a history of trying to copy pokemon before as you said, the origins of both are completely separated. The original names can show that as, pokemon was known as pocket monster for a long time before coming to west as pokemon while digimon started as virtual pets in the time of the tamagoshi style, but it's right to say that it became digimon because of Pokemon, since there's not prove otherwise.
Great video!!
Have you seen the TCG game they made in 2020, it have some really interesting mechanics that feel and play in a original way. its sad to see digimon not receiving the attention that it deserves, the story from some of the quests are so mature and actually try to show the dangers of this kind of scenario, ill never forget the questline where a corporation uses digimon to make people "stuck" in eden with their "soul mate" so they can get in their house and kidnap them, the game has some really well thought stuff that really stand out to me when i played it for the first time.
Cyber Sleuth was the deciding factor for me to get a PS4, which in turn gave me access to other greatly enjoyable games
Finally, Soul Hackers 1.5
I started this game years ago when it released but never finished it. I did recently pick up the steam version on a sale, maybe this video is what finally push me back to trying to finish it one and for all!
wow. what a great review/essay. well done. and yes. i'm getting it today at my local retro game store. but it will be ps4 because that's what they have right now.