Digimon Adventure Reboot Season Review | Billiam
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The Digimon Reboot just ended after a season that received mixed reviews through its entire run. Personally, I really enjoyed it, but had some OPINIONS!
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I've never heard the term "sprinting on a treadmill" to describe a plot's pace but its perfect
Full speed to nowhere
Better than Tri at least. You had six movies and complete nothing for most of it culminating in a cliffhanger was the best you could come up with?
@@mariokarter13 Eh, I prefer tri. The six OVAs (they weren't really movies) in total would only reach halfway (around 25 episodes) of a proper season (usually 50+ episodes). Adventure 2020 had way longer time (67 episodes) and also managed to complete nothing for most of it.
In tri, at least each of the kids was given character development. The main focus was also clear - to save Meicoomon. But the context changed from literally saving it to metaphorically saving it from its suffering. What you called cliffhanger was not even one, but more like a sequel bait since that was not even what tri focused on. Adventure 2020 also had sequel bait in its last episode.
Adventure 2020 didn't even develop the characters despite having 60+ episodes, remaining the same as the moment they were introduced. The kids just defeat stronger and stronger villains (who mostly were just feral, non-talking, no personality villains), but defeating them didn't advance the story. The kids didn't get anything out of it - no new information, no character development; those were pretty much context-less battles. The only way for the plot to "move" was once the kids reached info dump episodes, which was like only 3 episodes out of 67.
It doesn't help the fact the story lost much of its focus once Milleniummon, the supposed big bad talked from the beginning of the season, was underwhelmingly defeated in just 1 episode (while the previous context-less villains were stretched to 3 episodes each). Then we got this new unknown villain while just by then the show started to focus on the things the kids have been using all this time but nobody ever questioned (the crests). It just became even more meaningless since they finally resorted to Omegamon anyway (who have been appearing multiple times earlier), undermining the 20+ episodes of unlocking the Ultimate/Mega evolution.
I think this showcases that the original Digimon Adventure was surprisingly good for a 90s childrens anime.
There are plenty of good children’s anime *points to precure specifically heartcatch*
Really was an amazing series
Wasn't it from 2000
@@yemmohater2796 nope, i think it was 1999. I think the session finished in 2000 though
Iconic, Absolutely but I didn’t hate or very much dislike this 2020 one.
I liked them sprinkling in digimon from all six previous main seasons.
More than anything I consider this to be an homage of itself not something to please everyone.
It became the "Tai show" where in the original each of the kids had more character driven stores. I actually miss all the in group fighting. We saw these kid struggle and grow in the original and we really didn't see any of that here.
Its kinda sad that Taichi becoming Naruto
@@wikansaktianto9215 I blame Toei for wanting to push Tai super hard.
@@wikansaktianto9215 At least Naruto was given backstory and character development. That made him a more interesting character.
2020 Taichi had none of that. He's just bland and the only characterization he had was the stock shonen phrase "I won't give up!"
I really hated the Tai pandering, but I think there's a fundamental missinterpretation going on in this show compared to the original.
In the original, the group is all in all at once and them barely knowing each other while in a place they never even knew anything of was really something that created tension in the group. Not only they are lost, but their digimon are also pretty much useless guides. But that's not the dynamic in 2020. They came in a few a time, Izzy figured out bite sized goals very early on, they know where they are and they know it isn't impossible to go out, they kind of accept the things that they have to do a lot earlier.
One show is imposed survival, the other is an accepted dangerous mission after like, episode 3. It makes sense there's less in fighting.
My way of looking at it is that Digimon follows more of a power rangers setup where every kid has their own arc and story and how they are equally important. 2020 tried to go classic shonenand lost the charm
The overall show was hurt big time without a dedicated real world arc. The Myotismon/Vamdemon arc is when the original went from good to shaping my childhood. Seeing the kids interact with their parents, siblings and other people in the world while taking responsibility for protecting everyone when they could have just left everything to the adults they were now with. It made the show so much stronger beyond the generic "bad guy must be defeated" plot.
2020 is good in individual episodes, I didnt hate any episode on its own, but as a series it fell short.
Like the ones in the filler episodes?
@@leonardofarias8843 There's no filler episodes in the original, considering there's no manga to base the animé on.
It's probably because most of the show's writing was happening when the pandemic first hit and I imagine it was a nightmare for writers to communicate between each other and production, so they settled to more inconsequential MotW episodes to get most of the work load done until they could sit together again. It's easy to see there really is a divide between the 'let's get evolution debuts out of the way' episodes and the actual character development episodes, and why there's so little breathing space during the first half of the show.
@@bluuangel004 They had V-Tamer, but sadly Toei is fricking dumb...
@@jironamos7650 That's a different story altogether. Kind of like how Pokemon was very different in the anime and manga.
Billiam you almost forgot:Leomon fricken lived like a legend!!
Maybe that’s a subtle way toei is sequel baiting us by showing that the story isn’t over yet since leomon still hasn’t sacrificed himself
Just Break The Chain!
Is this the first time a Leomeow survived?
@@austinfowler6700 V-tamer leomon lived
Along with Kizuna Leomon
NOOOOOOO THE TRADITION OF MURDERINF LEOMON IS OVER
my favorite character in the new season of digimon has got to be izzie's pentagon friend, who was presumably fired and killed shortly after the events of episode 3 for leaking state secrets about an active terrorist threat to a japanese 10 year old
He was drunk and drove his car off the road, and that's the last that we are going to say about it.
@@mkgibertjr Sounds like something someone would say to cover up a secret
@@OTOBIOhazord 👁️👄👁️
remember digimon is a kids show
@@damagedaether except for when it isn't.
With the stakes being his high the show isn’t nearly as dark or serious as it used to be . I would’ve really expected this to be taken more seriously and fleshed out with all the lore and backstory they had already
Digimon 2020 did more for Digimon as a series than it did for itself:
-Massively raising the bar for combat animation. You really hit it with the physicality of motion and metalgreymon got SO much love to make up for the original.
-Creating memorable places, as if watching a folk tale happen in real time to leave behind locations with history. A volcano frozen in time as a tower of glass, a forest filled with new life but also ghosts of the past, a giant tree that is also the information hub of the continent. This is exactly what was missing from Cyber Sleuth and perhaps even the new digimon world games, and we got it.
-An allstar cast of digimon both famous and obscure
-Playing more loosely with digivolution rules to give so much flexibility for choreography. Mixing X and slide evolutions as loadout changes benefits the show AND merchandising without feeling forced.
So it's just so disappointing that they failed at making the show good on its own. The chosen kids barely get to be people, the real world had so much screentime for so little meaningful impact, and they pulled out omnimon AT LEAST 1 too many times.
I agree. It started out pretty good and then.... 😐
Same
@@zeanzern4396 where can you watch it
Ik right. When the digimon were tapping into the human worlds smartphone smart TV an anything tech that was that advanced an showed them all a countdown to the digimon trying to gather the necessary data to help free millenniummon it got the kids to realize if they don't stop it an defeat the digimon before the time runs out all of the screens with timers on them will all turn into a nuclear bomb an vaporize all live in the area an there family an friends were there but they weren't thinking about that the kids didn't want anyone to die so they were all assembled focused an determined to defeat that digimon an not holding back. They were kids an they were acting live veteran warriors that had real teamwork and taichi and Yamato were amazing strategists an leaders an they aren't even teenagers yet lol. This was a good series
An its not that they weren't people its that they have always focused on that in the first season they were assuming that fans or people that know what digimon was could just watch the original series to see all that. Why waste some good episode on that an bore these new generation kids. They get bored to easily to begin with.
I personally found the structure to be like Pokémon. I didn’t like the overarching plot but goddamn there’s some amazing individual episodes
Agreed
Except with Pokemon, the overarching narrative doesn't really matter that much, while with Digimon, it's kinda the whole point
Well that makes sense considering the hrad writer that was brought in gor Adventure 2020 wrote for the Pokemon anime.
@@justjulia1720 Not really. Even Pokemon has to follow a main narrative which even has an established end goal (ash becoming a pkmn master) despite its episodic nature. I mean that's basically the whole premise of the show so much that it is frequently brought up in the Japanese opening themes. Pokemon pretty much had it as bad, if not worse as it managed to focus more on being a glorified commercial to the games that not only applies to most of its episodes but also tends to hinder the show's overaching narrative.
While Pokemon is much more episodic than Digimon (mostly to the continuation vs. new story difference) Pokemon's arcs are usually much better than the standalones (hence why Journeys is a mixed bag due to being too few of them).
Biggest issue was the pacing. The episodes of them being separated should've happened earlier instead of breaking up a lot of the action.
My biggest issue was how shilled taichi and agumon were
@@CrobatmanIamthenight Not to mention how in the last arc, where each of the characters try to uncover their crests, Taichi and Agumon always appear and they ask “why are you here?” We all know why.
Or at the very least, cut down some episodes since this didn't need to be a long season.
The writers constantly separated them, if anything. They never act like a team or have interesting interactions with one another, but just a bunch of people at the same place at the same time.
@@IgnitedQuils I haven't even seen the last half of the season and I'm already laughing because I _get_ it. I'll never forget Taichi and Agumon getting another ultimate evolution before anyone gets their last one...
I feel like the growth or relationships between the characters and between their digimon is what really makes digimon. Reboot had so little in what i had watched that i just couldnt keep it and kept dropping it
Afterall Digimon is more like Persona or Stand User rather than Pokemon duel thingy..too bad this new series is like that Pokemon duel.
Whole heartedly disagree with you there. If you watch those shows again, the digimon are pretty much doing the same there as they are doing here, if not being treated ever worse as tools. Palmon, Tentomon and Gomamon are prime examples of the Digimon having personalities in this series and they are always cheering their kids up. Sora straight up has an episode about a fight with Piyomon. The digimon in all digimon shows very rarely feel complementary to their kids, they are always more or less the same personality of the kid. If you want a show where that is >very< bad, check savers. Gaomon's entire personality is just saying "yes master"
@@jpcsdutra Picking Gamon specifically is like taking things out of context, have you even watched savers?
Gaomon is basically Touma's mother, but made a Digimon, its just an idealization to help Touma cope with his mother's traumatic death.
@@jironamos7650 I did actually, even though it was quite a while back. I'll be completely honest, I don't really remember the personality of any of the partner digimon in that show, they weren't memorable at all for me.
@@jpcsdutra Well, thats fine, it was a respectful point of view.
I would say Agumon was by far the most developed because well, it was the main character 'mon.
Spoiler: The Leomon never dies, it's truly blasphemous.
He never died but he also never really does anything worthwhile after his debut...meaning he was kind of half dead the entire reboot? Its a drag he never even met Ogermon.
I like the idea of having a show where Leomon doesn't die, but with how much of a mess DA2020 was I think they just forgot to kill him.
@@RoboBlue2 I mean, with all the references to across the franchise including deep cuts like Minidekachimon (who previously only existed as an extension of Atamadekachimon in the Japanese-exclusive DigiWindow toy as a crossover present from the Japanese-exclusive cell phone game Digimon Pocket Wars in January 2007) and Reference Book profile references like when Ghoulmon changed from white to black while materializing as a "god of destruction" in the penultimate battle, I find it hard to buy that they would have left it out intentionally.
@@RoboBlue2 They're gonna go into Season 2 and have to say he died off-screen, just to make sure tradition is respected.
Honestly when the Soundbirdmon first appeared and started controlling innocent digimon, it made me think that there was going to be a plot point later on about how the so-called Digi-Destined are just murdering innocent Digimon left and right instead of just killing the Soundbirdmon and stopping their mind control. Maybe that’s too dark for what this show was trying to be, but it still would’ve been cool to see.
The Digital World being a somewhat savage place is a new take, this would have worked in most other seasons. It's possible this one was as savage as it is because it's denizens have vanished.
If they caught on to or kept tracking down the Soundbirdmon, that would have prevented the last arc right there
That is the plot in Kamen rider.
Well, after they learn about digimon reincarnation it really is a moot point. The evil digimon are absorbing data and thus preventing digimon from being reborn. The chosen ones kill something and it gets to be reborn. There really isn't a comparison. If the evil guy kills there's less digimon in the world, if the chosen ones kill, the digimon count remains the same. There really is nothing to lose.
@@KenjuKizawa Not really, there's basically millions of them and only a handful at most acted at any given time until Ghoulmon.
While I do feel like this season fleshed out the Digimon more as their own individual characters that learn from their partners instead of being just yes-men, it's such a waste that the human characters don't get super fleshed out to compliment that.
It's almost as if the roles were reversed. The digimon went from being a 1-dimensional yes man to actually interesting characters and the main cast went from people with depth to a generic good guys heroes.
@@freddice8156 EXACTLY
Tailmon got more development in the original than all the digimon in 2020 combined.
@@freddice8156
Mimi may be the only one who's solid in both original and remake.
@@DrawciaGleam02 Nah I think Taichi and Yamato also is pretty solid on both too.
I really felt this season has some of the best ideas I've seen in digimon but mixed execution. I loved the idea the digimon are reborn warriors needing the kids to return to mega, the range of digimon, the split evolutions, kommondromon being best boi, the twist on how Gatomon being a villain and all the kids getting mega. Also Leomon lives! But the plot and characters where lacking and got a lot of lift from the original series and imo the first chunk of the show was def hurt from the pandemic since as you said the show shifted and started improving. Overall I think the show could have gone through a second draft.
"Leomon lives" what is this sacrilege?
I've said this on a few Digimon video before, but... "Great idea, lacking execution" is a microcosm of this entire franchise.
Digimon World- an open world game (on the PS1 of all things) where you get a partner you care for and the way you raise it translates into what becomes of it. Great idea! Sadly the game is infamously obtuse and frustrating and it'd take well over a decade for a modernized version to be released.... in Japan only.
Adventure 02- a sequel to the popular series with better animation, following a new set of kids with new, odd world mechanics and keeping tabs on the previous cast. Good idea, but 02 is also known for the absolute trainwreck its plot ended up as with things just being tossed in and forgotten, and the epilogue that, again, took decades to even try justifying in the end scenes of Last Evolution.
Frontier- A series where they cut down the total cast number by a huge margin by making the kids themselves become Digimon. While controversial, this could actually work, as the lower cast number means you can now put more focus into the quality of each character. Didn't really happen, though, so now Frontier exists as the entirely mediocre black sheep of the family.
Data Squad has a cast that's full of young adults working for an agency that handles Digimon-related incidents. This is actually a neat idea and could actually work for both an overarching plot and a few monster-of-the-week side plots. But the cast ended up being bland and the relationships not well developed.
The Cyber Sleuth games were good, but still had issues regarding plot and, honestly, look low-budget even for Vita titles. Next Order was just as good but suffered from less-than-stellar writing and the same lack of budget- which is odd because it's the only recent Digimon game with an actual dub, and it's a fine dub too.
And how about that new fitness watch? As you work out, your Digimon gets stronger too. That's AMAZING! Stupendous idea! The thing's strap is made out of flimsy plastic, is very small, and earlier versions had trouble reading the vitals of people with 'darker skin'. Oops.
@@mariofan1ish What about Fusion/Xros Wars? I haven’t heard ANYONE talking about it at all to the point where people seem to want to forget it.
@@ryanaing5302 Expanding on the time-honored tradition of fusion in Digimon isn't an inherently bad idea, but the series was created fairly cynically. The new monsters looking a lot like plastic toys and just getting rammed together to get stronger reminds me of the original Megazord from Power Rangers, and the forms look just as messy.
I left Fusion out because I personally think it wasn't a good idea from the start. Xros Wars 2 was literally shat out just to fill a time slot Toei didn't want to lose and they had nothing better to use, and to push more toys. I think that says more about what Digimon means to it's owners than anything else.
Also it wasn't especially good in either dub, so it was kinda a bad idea bad execution deal.
@@mariofan1ish How about the story, themes, and characters of Fusion/Xros Wars? Excluding Digimon Hunters. I’m sure it contributes to the series’ bad reputation.
Etemon in 98' was Digimon's Joker, afraid of how much damage his antics will do
Mimi was such a great character in Digimon Season One but I knew, even way back when the series aired, that there was much more that could have been done with her.
Lilymon's first appearance during the Myotismon arc was a real turning point in her character for me, since before then, you only got brief glimpses into the depths of what she was able to accomplish on her own.
Upon hearing about this new reboot, I wasn't interested in checking it out, but after seeing what the writers have done with Mimi, and with my political stance in THIS day and age....
I am proud to declare that I have always been in the Mimi Fanclub since 1999! She doesn't wear pink to accentuate her complexion... nah, she wears pink to accessorize her rose-gold heart!
Just wanna mention that I prefer 99's Mimi waaay better than that businesswoman already fully in charge of everything Mimi from the reboot
This version of the show made me desperately want a Ogremon spin off, a cool after story where he needs to become a hero or something xD
But he's a mad max motorbike cyborg demon with a cute bunny friend now, he's got his happy ending 😃
An Ogremon who went on a quest to be more powerful for his own and maybe his clan's survival. At the end, he'll digivolve to Titamon, becoming one of the strongest Digimon in the region, only to be seen as a threat and eliminated by the Olympos XII.
I'd still watch it 🤣 gotta support my favorite digimon
And Titamon is absolutely epic looking
I just want a sequel to tamers
That would be cool. I’ve always wanted to see more of the friends who got digimon near the end of the show.
the creator made one.
its not good
Don't we all
Yeah given how the original creator has turned into a reactionary alt righter...I'm good with it as it is.
It could happen.
This season had a lot of great elements, but also could've used some improvements. Mimi was easily one of the best parts of this reboot considering her appreciation for her grandfather's philosophies and how she used them to benefit the digimon. Some of the battles were pretty entertaining with the upgraded animation, outstanding fighting skills, and high stake confrontations with the main villains. Plus, there were plenty of cute moments between some of the characters, especially regarding Mimi and Kari. Even some of the new songs were delightful to listen to.
Although, I still wish they did a better job juggling the various plot elements and characters. The real world didn't get as involved with the story as it should've and there were so many episodes or moments that dragged on for so long that I got bored with the show at times. Not to mention that some of the Mega-level episodes acted more like something that would happen earlier in the season, as in being more low-key stories rather than something that tightens the main plot. And while I liked the idea of giving the partner digimon alternate evolutions, they could've played around with it more to bring a bigger impact to the final battle when Omnimon switched between forms. The lack of conflict between the kids also made the show feel underwhelming at times, especially when compared to Matt and Tai's arguments in the original "Adventure."
Overall, "Adventure 2020" could've done a better job with its plot structure, but it still did alright in the end. At least the final episode sent the show off on a high note.
Minus the episodes you've listed and one or two others, I've already forgotten like 90% of this season because it all just blurs together in a series of non-stop action scenes. There is just no emotional core to this season.
One thing that's missing, and can't be replicated, is the mystery surrounding what each digimon's next form will look like. Seeing MetalGreymon for the first time ect.
"Garurumon is awesome! I wonder what he'll become next?"
*Goes on Wiki*
"Oh he's wearing pants, that totally killed my excitement"
I think we saw every evolution in the end credits. Atleast in the Finnish version, that more faitfully follows the Japanese dub.
I dropped this very early on.
The way every character was introduced quickly and just accepted everything as they casually saved the world from destruction made them feel so fake. I loved the original for the character dynamics and how they were confused and trying to learn about their new world.
Sounds like it sort of went back to that a little but honestly I am glad I didn't finish this.
Let's not forget that Joe decided to spend his time in an alien world with monsters and unknown laws of physics, studying instead of surviving. In general Joe was such a caricature of his former self, that it hurt my soul
They started off way too strong and the rest of the show suffered for it. Sequence of events REALLY should have been better managed. The original show was shorter but they had full character arcs and stronger bonds. Here it felt like they were too afraid to revisit some old beats just put something new in or stuff a cameo from elsewhere.
-Hikari was stood out as the oddest one by far. When she first shows up, it's almost as if she has behavoral problems or like they were trying to reintroduce the Dark Ocean arc, but it seems like that wrote in nothing for her as a character to do on screen so she is just...blank. i know it's because Tailmon was calling her. But leaving Hikari just standing there for half an episode doing nothing else looked disjointed
-The kids often notice something is still off, but because it's not their main focus, it's out of sight out of mind.
-Having Takeru and Patamon out of commision for so long was a huge mess. It also feels like HolyAngemon should have gotten some sort of dark paladin mode.
-The branching evolutions were very much underused. Ponchomon was lthe funnest but...never shows up again.
-Yamato also never felt on par to Taichi either. He's supposed to be a rival/dark horse type but he just comes off as pretentious and standoffish
The thing i hated the most was at the end, when they try to pull out the "we believe in you" moment, but we have no connection to the human world, like ok, i get it from the digital world, but nobody knows the kids in the real world, like, i'm sorry, but every Adventure iteration with this moment did this better. Actually, with the exception of the wilderness of the world and them nailing the physicalithy of the Digimon, i think every other series (except tri) did everything better. I wanted to like you Adventure reboot, but i couldn't.
Also, Mimi Episodes best episodes.
Nah...still think digimon xros wars was the worst
No. Tri is the worst. Them is Digimon Universe, Xros wars hunters and 02. After all that adventure 2020.
It's easy to forget because they showed the real world so little, but they did imply from the beginning that kids were able to see the bigger digimon fights happening. It's how TK and Hikari get involved in the first place. I don't think the ending is about the whole world cheering for them, it's just the kids that have been watching all along.
You're all wrong. Frontier is still the worst. This coming in as a close second. Also, Mimi is best character in the show. Don't @ me.
@@miep3934 ¿Why?
This show sounds like it's a mildly better version of dragon ball super. Not surprising considering its the same production company trying to revive another nostalgic property.
Not sure if this is bait or not, but it's also the same director.
Basically. And as a huge, longtime fan of both franchises... I hated both Adventure 2020 and Super. Complete bastardizations of once great tales, made only for soulless profit.
Slightly better in some areas, worse in others. At least some of the Super episodes were exciting, Digimon 2020 it's just all spectacles and no real substance, DBS too is like that but Digimon 2020 is worse in this aspect IMO.
Nah, even Super still had more effort in building its threats and some semblance of continuous arcs. The characters aren't super deep, but they still interact and express emotions more than in Adventure Reboot.
@@RPGNoZero wow that's rough for digimon considering the character interactions was a big part of its strengths
I 100% agree with your point about the environments differing drastically. The reboot’s Digiworld didn’t feel random / very digital at all.
It’s really hard to see Tai and Matt with their Digimon after seeing something like Last Evolution.
Just pretend Last Evolution doesn't exist. It was a bad movie anyway, considering it ended on the 'When you become an adult your stuck and done. No more room for growth or evolution there.' with no tie back to 02. To finish the old adventure series with a statement that is contrary to what the whole Digimon franchise stands for is just stupid and makes the movie bad, no matter how good everything else in it was. :/
You actually fell for Last Evolution's trite forced ending???
@@ripleyandweeds1288 I really wonder who's at fault for that stupid ending. Not expecting something revolutionary or so, but... Last Evolution's ending was bad on every level. Really wishing someone would make a better ending for it and post that with the rest of the movie so it's worth rewatching. It *could* have been a good way to put the old Adventure to rest... :/
@@GoldenEmotions I believe it was the director. He did an interview explaining the reason Last Evolution went the way it did and it's basically an old Digimon fan growing and saying "adults shouldn't enjoy childish shows, grow up" in a much nicer and PR way. I can find the link for you if you want to read it.
@@weridplusho That is such a pathetic way of thinking. Imagine letting someone tell you not to enjoy stuff! That guy must be someone with a sad and boring life if they don't know the value of having fun so that they prioritize fitting old social standards. (Also, who would want to reduce the amount of customers giving them money?)
But I'd be interested in reading that interview, if it's not too much of a hassle for you to get me a link to it.
I hope they continue with this continuity, more specifically with the same staff. Adventure 2020 may not have been the best Digimon has even been, but the staff and the writing team sure as hell LOVED Digimon, from using obscure attacks, obscure digimon, fan-favorites and even Digimon who had never appeared in anime such as Milleniumon It really showed to me how much they understood and loved this series. Plus this Digimon had some of the most fun fight scenes ever, that last fight was pure bliss and fanservice
Recently Digimon has leaned into the Tai and Matt show format which always rubbed me the wrong way. I still enjoyed the new season but I prefer when Digimon gives the whole cast time to shine nearly equally
I remember the promo material seeming to mention they would do more in the real world in this season vs 99. I saw someone theorize on the Digimon subreddit maybe COVID messed up their plans and they had to shift the tone quickly. I'm sure we won't find out what happened for a while but it would be interesting to see if they had a different story planned out originally.
1:48 They should have called it Digimon Action. Just like how the Wacky Races reboot would have been so much better if they had called it Wacky Racers instead. That one "r" makes a world of difference.
Also, Mileniumon was a joke. Build up over almost 50 Episodes and then defeated in a single episode. Also there was this hilarious shot during the fight against him where godramon slams him down and Milleniumon collides with solid ground, despite them fighting in the freaking sky.
Watching Millenniumon get decked by Godramon was the most beautiful thing ever.
But more in a entertaining way rather than a "this was totally worth watching 50 episodes" way.
I mean, that shot does make sense though! They were fighting over the clouds, Millenniummon goes down, through the clouds and collides with the ground. It may have looked weird because of how HUGE it was, far bigger than the space between ground and clouds. A follow-up shot of the impact from the ground's perspective, like the back of its head piercing through the clouds and leveling a mountain would've helped a lot too.
I personally think Millenniummon was done justice, even with the short screentime they made the best out of it and delivered one of the most intense fights in Digimon. I didn't love the reboot overall, but that episode really stood out. I'll happily take it over a stretched-out, lower quality fight.
Mimimon definitely had the best episodes, and "Mimi-chan wars" THE coolest digivolution-sequence I have ever seen
Adventure 2020 just felt so weird and inconsistent. I like the show's story in the big picture, but it also wanted to be both a reboot and a continuation of the original which just didn't work. Like the show was basically saying "you watched the original so we don't really have to tell/show you anything about these characters" when it was also going out of its way to try something new with them too. Like especially for Yamato so his placement with Taichi at the end of the series felt so odd because they were separated for a majority of the show that I can't really tell that these versions of them are friends and their bond and journey together being important to help Omegamon reach its full potential.
I don't know. I'm still having to sit and think about this show. I'm so far leaning towards that it's just fine. Not good, not terrible, just fine.
do you guys watch the japanese version and not dubbed right?
We Need 80 more episodes man, Piedmon, earth we need more
Always looking forward to Digimon videos from Billiam
I agree as a whole it more or less fails, looked at in particular pieces there are some pretty cool ideas. While it is never really said it, I really like how they the unofficially make Sora into Taichi's co-captain of the Digidestined essentially. She teaches him things just like in the original but she doesn't get sidelined for Yamato later on. Yet I think at the same time one could argue that Yamato himself gets oddly sidelined this time.
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@@Mr.Ian_20XX please go away with that devil song thanks
"Digimon, Digital Monsters, Digimon are...
mutated computer viruses that escaped from a research facility and used by malicious hackers to do a myriad of tasks on the internet, such as forming a paramilitary organization named "Crack Team" to favor the armies of different nations in creating a program to incentivize children to join the army as if it were just a mere game so they could get profit by training child soldiers who wield Digimon to do dirty deeds".
"Oh and by they way, they are champions too."
@@jironamos7650 what
I knew this reboot was terrible the second it blew its narrative load in the second episode.
But like. We got Ophanimon so I'm legally obligated to never say anything bad about it again.
Of course the writers loved Mimi, they’ve made her a high fashion femme workers rights defender! Honestly, animation houses should start striking for better work conditions with Mimi as their symbols.
Eyyy another banger Digimon review from Billiam!
Adventure 2020 was so frustrating because the low points were REALLY low but the high points were REALLY high and it just makes you wish the whole show was that good. I still had a lot of fun for the most part watching it every week though.
The Adventure kids are some of my favorite fictional characters of all time due to growing up with them so even if they weren’t as well fleshed out in the reboot, seeing their shenanigans every week really helped me through the roughest parts of the pandemic :’)
Love hearing the passionate way you word about the show series.
Bro I love all your videos plz upload more I’ve basically went through all you got in the last month or so. Your content is great.
They disrespected Zeedmillenimon. Like I have waited for ever to see my boy finally get animated and… he is one shot by wargreymon and wasn’t even the final boss of the series… man I was so upset by that
Edit: also another bringing back of the original cast and not bringing back my favorite Digimon Piedmon :( Come on guys!
Oh my god the soundbite when Ogremon gets stepped on 🦶
Amazing stuff as always! No one does it better!
So glad to see you back Billiam, I missed your videos. I hope you're doing well
You gotta cover the Cyber Sleuth games. That's some good ass Digimon content.
I think he streamed the first one
as someone who holds the movie that omnimon and that whole storyline it brought with it, close to heart in my memories, it's the only thing that's even coming close to a reason to watch the reboot, i personally love the fact it was used as the starting point for the reboot now all i need to hear is that they decided to add the angela anaconda section
I’ve never watched digimon , but these vids make me kinda interested in checking the show out
Start by tamers, it's the best one.
Skip this one. And also consider this is a multiverse franchise with really convoluted and crazy stuff, probably one of the most ambitious out there.
The anime is mostly spinoff content, so if you want an understanding of Digimon, Get Cyber Sleuth Complete edition and play both games on it.
Then if you want to watch anime:
Watch Tamers, Watch Adventure 1999, watch Savers.
@@jironamos7650 mimi~ mimi~😭😭😭
I was just thinking when we'd get a video on this. I'm happy to see it!
Saw this through a recommended suggestion. Glad I did. You earned a subscriber my friend
You did a really good job of summing up the issues with the show that I couldn't quite put my finger on. The early episodes honestly kept me more invested cause while the new evolutions did seem to come a bit early, it was at least clear that those episodes had a clear purpose. Meanwhile after WarGreymon's debut I grew increasingly less interested cause it felt like the story wasn't going anywhere. It was just one new enemy after another with no connection to the story, no lessons learned and very rarely was gained from the fight like a new evolution (which were also criminally underutilized), until suddenly we're at the final battle X amount of episodes later. Pair this with the lack of drama between the characters and it left me feeling pretty disappointed by the time it was over. Don't get me wrong there's definitely things it did better than the original, but I feel like there were a lot of missteps that keep me from appreciating it
I'm a simple man, seeing new and other less known digimon being animated and shown really made me happy, never really cared for the pacing, monster of the week is nothing negative to me also Ghost Game seems pretty cool, can't wait to see the new evolutions
I've been binging all your stuff. Keep up the good work love it
Thanks for more digimon content. I really do enjoy all your content but i feel that in the realm of digimon you offer the best content. Much appreciated.
you gotta screw up pretty badly if a Elvis impersonator is a more intimidating villain than your big bad evil guy
honestly my biggest issue wasnt the digital world plot at all, it was the almost COMPLETE lack of character development in the main cast tbh, characters had their own episodes but they didnt feel like they had any impact whatsoever so they technically couldve just been scrapped and i prolly wouldnt have felt that different, thats how lacking they felt.
Watching the Express VPN commercial at 2X speed is umm… an experience.
Something about Digimon that has always annoyed me is how stubbornly it seems to try getting away from the things that made it so remarkable in the first place. Particularly Season 1 and 3's focus on more mature content.
It is a kids' series, true, but it was never like it aired anything that was just too much for the young'uns to grasp, and it took advantage of that liberty to deliver some truly memorable, complex characters and unforgettable scene. Izzy being adopted, Takato trying to care for Guilmon and stressing over his fear of what will happen if he fails, Matt and Tai devolving to fisticuffs, that scene in Tamers where a bunch of Digimon get eradicated by the government and the entire city is full of pained screaming, Leomon's death at the hand of Beelzemon and the absolutely *horrifying* series of events that play out with Jeri and the D-Reaper afterwards, and so on.
It's not just limited to the shows either. The Cyber Sleuth games had some seriously messed up content too, even if it was relegated to single missions, like the Ghost Girl, Pete's entire storyline, that bizarre body-harvesting scam, the Digimon with a human collection, and so forth. Digimon is at its best when it gets weird and mature, and it makes me mad to know that everything in this new series seems to have improved EXCEPT the writing and how far they're willing to push their boundaries, especially after Last Evolution generally did that so well.
This is such a good comment...except for the whole "Last Evolution generally did that so well" because Last Evolution was fucking awful and went against Adventure and 02 as a whole. Like that whole movie's conflict was so forced and insulting, like they were trying to retconn 02's epilogue but were too chickenshit to actually do it.
Meanwhile 1997 era fan in a corner:
So are we gonna get anything related to crack team and the hacking crisis that ocurred in the original plotline?
Bandai:
Sure, here we have it!!
*Puts yet another adventure thing on the table*
1997 era fan: I can't wait more decades for this... *commits aliven't*
I mean, this show did do some interesting things here and there. Devimon straight up tortured Angemon, Tailmon is kind of a downer because it knows it was bad for a while, for a brief second Tai is also affected by the miasma too and gets that dope wrong evolution even if they don't really explore the consequences of that as much; Yamato and TK still have the same relationship of being protective of one another because their parents are divorced, Joe is still a mess of a character because he still has the same pressure on him although it is only implied.
I agree that this show really should have had a real world arc where they face their families, but it's not like Digimon completely dropped doing things like that. Heck, even Applimon had "my brother was kidnapped and now I'm edgy", "my family hates that I want to be a youtuber rather than have the family business" and even "I'm so lonely that an emotionless robot is my best friend"
Over all I just think that in the 20 years in between adventure 01 and 2020, most writers really just grew up on generic shonen and don't really do much heartfelt anymore, also networks probably don't let you get away with as much for small kids, and there's also the factor that this has a budget and an audience, Adventure 01 was a shot in the dark that needed plot because it could barely pay for animation.
@@jpcsdutra The main issue is that this show is pure references, and you dont have to make a show like this...
That shows the elitism the Adventure fans emanate, even in the Digimon fandom.
@@jironamos7650 I mean, don't get me wrong, I'd have taken an Adventure Prequel or an Adventure 03 over a reboot thing anytime if we aren't getting another anthology, but like, I feel like this show justifies itself enough. It references the video games too with Mugendramon and Milleniumon having as much focus as they did, which itself is already stepping away from 01 even if its to reference something else. It's the first show to give people branching evolutions, which is something I think was greatly needed for a while now. It bothered giving all characters their Megas, which 01 and 02 didn't bother with; they didn't go the Gennai route either, which was great because any good plot is brought down with prophecy mumbo jumbo. It feels more like a celebration of everything digimon, like a 20th anniversary special celebration (well, like 25 for the tamagotchi). I like that we see digimon from Frontier and Xross Wars and everything. I think it does a good enough job of being cool and entertaining enough to bring in new kids to the franchise, and gives the old fans enough to point at and be like "oh I get that". I don't think is as offensive as a lot of people have been making it to be. It surely feels a lot less forced than Xross Wars and Applimon to me.
It's so painful to have something so much potential, fall so flat with it's story telling.
18:00 Except for the part where Goddramon's _massive_ solders just dwarf his head reverse-"hold the fuck up" style. Sort of like Arthas' shoulder-pads in WC3R except bigger. It's easily one of the funniest off-model things I've ever seen.
thanks so much for your content dude, been going crazy during tha vahrus and def appreciate this one. i have a small collection myself of goosebumps shirts and LOVED THAT STORY AS WELL YOUR SHIRT LOL i know you had some health issues awhile back, or at least i think you'd mentioned something. i hope all is well and can't wait for more content amigo, Millenniumon was really coolest in namesake but yeah generic and safe they played it but was still good to see the universe of digimon again
Still mad how they did zeedmilliniumon.
It is one of the strongest fictional characters.
It controls time, is immortal, and All around it fades away, not to mention it killed god.
Im glad its over...
Dont get me wrong, i liked it and followed it from the beginning...
However, its like a cheep firework where it started off with a bang then slowly drifted into smoke with a few crackles in between for the oos and ahhs but in the end you go "is that it?"
Well anime in general has become this so until someone can actually come in with a decent story, I'm left with just a "meh."
(But hey, Leomon lived! yaaahhhh)
It felt like they didnt have a series outline and it was a clusterfuck.
Even ignoring the series starting on megas and ridiculous shit then trying to scale the powerlevels back down it had massive arc issues.
It had the first arc of cast arrives to digital world, introduce themselves then fight devimon as the start, thats fine whatever albeit took a bit too long.
The second arc was bizarre, they blirz their way to fighting Millenniumon, then they beat him, it feels like an ending to the series with how the fight went and all the other shit surrounding it aka they had a fakeout death cliffhanger.
But after that its like the writers went "oh shit we forgot about the crests" so they what felt like asspulled another BIGGER BOSS. Except now they spend 10 episodes of pure filler character stuff which felt like it should have been at the start of the series instead of the end then abruptly fight the final boss who just shows up out of nowhere.
It never felt like things were escalating at a normal pace. They just kept pulling AN ANCIENT EVIL HAS AWOKEN over and over again
I disagree, I felt like they had the whole plot outlined since the beginning.
Well ultimately matters little how things were planned. I felt unsatisfied either way.
@@truegamer_007 I kind of hope they didnt otherwise they outlined is very poorly.
You give me my shot of nostalgia every time you pop up on my feed
Incredible video. Its crazy how besides your Tri and Kizuna videos, I agree with pretty well all of your digimon opinions. lol
I really want to see more of these versions of the characters though. In a sequel season, I think it would be cool to maybe have a time skip to roughly 02 age and take place jumping between the real and digital world, like 02. However, unlike 02, I don't think we need to add more characters just yet. They have left some really solid breadcrumbs about these versions this season and I want to see it more built upon. I feel if the focus stays on them, and there are real world segments, we could get exactly that. Especially since there isnt many other evolutions they can focus in on, so more character stuff would be cool. I'm super intrigued by what breadcrumbs we were left and I think to an extent that is on purpose, for later. Plus I really just want to see Mimi and Izzy run that company they have at the end. lol If they do HAVE to add new characters, I think a version of Ken would be cool enough. Maybe not actually Ken but same concept. More so I would like to see them take another crack at Meiko/Meicoomon. I think a Sequel season to this could definitely be incredible.
And again, great video Professor Bill-I-Am!
What suprise me the most. Was that Leomon actually survived the whole show
When exactly is any of this getting dub? Like the sequel series to the first one and the movie to?
Great Stuff! I am old. I saw Digimon back in the day… in my twenties…
You were very generous with this anime. I️ was generally disappointed by the show. It was so boring after the Devimon arc. It has no continuity. The other characters are just props for Taichi (which I️ hated!). The Milleniummon arc felt like it was just added in the middle to make the show longer. And they had no reason to not have the ultimates later because they were shown early and it made the show just wasted story telling opportunities. No relationship building between the kids and their digimon. Just as you said: shonen. And it did not work.
Are you going to do videos about the digimon games?
They have very intresting storys and expand on the verse of digimon(i used the word verse cause its the only one thet fits)
I think it's worth pointing out that, at the end, all of the kids went back to the human world with their digimon, but the last shot of Taichi and Agumon seems to still be in the digital world.
*Notifications didn't tell me you uploaded 5 days ago!* 0=
I guess I had the bell set to personalized. But I have not missed an episode from you so I figured it would get that. =/ Checked just in case and glad I did. C=
Eitherway, Yay! new video!
So i like digimon 2020. The ending felt for me alot better than the original. But what bothered me was the lack of character development compared to the original. And the fact that taichi was the "main" character. In the original everyone felt important and yamato and taichi shared that leader position, which made them clash and develop there relationship. I missed that. All in all i really enjoyed watching every episode every week. So other than that one part. I really enjoyed it!
Episode 21 for this season is my favorite, because through it Taichi showed the true courage that he had, not only that, the way and the build up of the new mode of Metalgreymon was really emotional, first of all Splashmon was really terrifying and the brutality he showed in torturing Metalgreymon was so hard and Taichi couldn't Bearing the sight of seeing his partner fall into the miasma and jumping to save him despite the miasma surrounding him, his determination gave him the power up and opened Splashmon's mouth and then MetalGreymon got the new mode was really cool and a favourite for me.
#2 probably between ep 50 and 24 I liked seeing Taichi fight with WarGreymon and launching the final blow it was an epic scene.
I kinda feel like this show's tone was playing out in reverse of what it should have been. The first episode's general plot should have been the last.
So for whatever reason I havn't really gotten notifications for your content this last 6 months. I used to binge every video. then something happened and I legit thought you just stopped making content. Super glad I thought of you again and came back and found... you never left. love the channel and I'll be sure to check-in more and relin on YT to show me you... less.
Would love to see you cover Ghost Game now that it's finished airing!!
I always felt that the title was meant to be Digimon Adventure: Omega and I am surprised people took so long to notice Omegamon
The theme song is a nostalgic overdose we all need lol edit: doesn't Negamon gives off sum Wrath Fullmetal alchemist vibes? Lmao
*Pride
Wrath is the father with the eyepatch
I can’t I just can’t! The Taco Bell bell toll on Togemon’s haymaker into Okuwamon’s face made me pause the video to laugh.
Great job on the review in my personal head cannon I want to believe that this season is supposed to represent the lighter tones of the franchise while reminding us that digimon play by different rules. In order to prepare us for ghost games which is looking as if it is taking on a few darker aspects fingers crossed that it blows our expectations out of the water.
Easily the worst season. Some good ideas, good music, a few nice bits of animations, but everything else flops.
Like that one time where our heroes ate a digimon, or Matt left war refugees to die, or how about the fact that our heroes murder digimon on an almost episodic basis. The morality alone in this show is so fucked it makes me sick. And please let's all just ignore the sexual molestation episode. The fact it made it past the idea stage depresses me to no end.
@@miep3934 Your comment is very right. The fact that in order to save some digimon, others are murdered in cold blood is sick. It is like deciding to kill the lions of a savannah to save the zebras.
Especially the episode of the Soulmon where after killing them Hikari has the gall to tell them "I hope they will be reborn as good guys" as if being a Soulmon made them unworthy of existing and acting according to their nature.
@@piperatino I'd say the Soulmon were the most defendable kill in the series. They were assholes for a fact, and murdering digimon. Killing someone who is trying to kill someone else is defendable. What is less defendable is killing the countless Okuwamon's, Shealmon's, Snimons and Seadramons that our heroes kill willy nilly, especially when they are either invading their territory or are mind controlled. I almost was willing to forgive it all because the episode inside Sephirothmon almost addressed the rampant murder...but nope. It was just a bunch of recycled fighting.
Nice Goosebumps shirt. One of the more disturbing books that shocked me as a kid.
Hey big guy, I love your content. I never thought I'd find a channel so niche yet so akin to my own tastes.
The just made me want to watch the original series again
The first 33 episodes actually soured me on this series... I think I left off after they have beaten devimon. Could have been later than that but I just couldn't stomach how flat the series was, or how it was just not having fun with itself. There is creativity in those battles, I guess, but where was the childlike wonder, the fun? It put me off the series for sure so I missed all the other episodes. Here's hoping ghost stories is better.
For me honestly, I love and enjoyed this reboot to be honest, there's some things that I didn't like in the original that got fixed in this reboot, so I love it and will watch this again in a heartbeat. What this season does best is Digimon have better combat movements and tactics when fighting, so I really enjoyed that. But with that all said I do know that each version have it's pros and cons. So some may like the OG better, some may like this one better, for me, while I grew up with the OG, and also loved the OG, but I have comes to also love this reboot a lot. I love Taichi and Yamato better in this reboot.
FINALLY, MORE BILLIAM! I'VE MISSED YOU!
Loved the review!!! Cool to know your not done with digimon especially with ghost game next but I gotta know where is the Applimon review? It's the one series you haven't done a review of and I'd love to know your thoughts on it. Or maybe a podcast cause I love the baby flame podcast and honestly don't want it to end anytime soon.
My gripes were definitely the pacing and the oversaturation of Taichi. Yeah, he's the "protagonist" but every other digimon show tends to also give the supporting cast time to shine. From the opening itself, it's very clear that this was gonna be the Tai show. The most disappointing thing was that the other kids didn't even get evolution sequences like Taichi and Yamato did, which is criminal considering how well made and gorgeous theirs are.
Overall, the show is kind of exhausting to watch all at once. I've tried to binge watch it now that it's done, but i keep ending up dropping it after watching a few episodes because of the frenetic pacing and due to how tired i just am of Taichi.
If i had to describe this season in one word it would be "unnecesary"
If i had to use 2 words it would be "fuckin boring"
Ty so Much Billiam for this late birthday present, that I'm seeing late! 😂
If you see this, I love your content man, keep on doing you!!!
I really wanna hear this in Dub. I've watched a little bit of the Reboot but, honestly, I kinda prefer Digimon in English. Gives me that nostalgia feel. That being said, I'm really tempted to go ahead and just start watching this show now. I couldn't really get into the movies until they came out in English. From what I can tell, Izzy (my favorite digi-destined from Season 1), gets to have his computer nerd moments, and that's all I care about. It's sad we can't find any of the old Digimon anymore.
One of My least favorite thing about 2020 is definitely milleniumon itself. C'mon this is one of if not THE strongest digimon ever created lore wise and it was treated as a sub-boss with very bad execution and build-up and it was defeated by typical shonen discount spirit bomb of friendship. This digimon was known to be able to control and destroy space and time, do something more with him.
Also, why none of the kids are bothered with slaughtering "evil" digimon in the whole series ? In the original the kids learn that digimons are alive that's why they hesitated to kill unless it is absolutely necessary.
IMO digimon absolutely failed when they are trying to tone down the more mature aspect of the narrative and absolutely thrived when they're more serious.
This was a good experience. As a kid, I would have LOVED this series.
It has its limits, for sure. Could have explore better its plot points and give the Boss villain (Argomon, Nihidogmon, Deathmon and Negamon) a bit more of a personality. But characters are always likable and the battle choreography was almost always on point, even in the worse animated episodes.
As a fan, I was hoping for something more in the last fight. I anticipated that all the kids digimon would have had their digimon go 1 level further to fight Negamon and his allies. Because THEY COULD (they have ulterior evolutions...). And MAYBE having Seraphimon and Ophanimon to fuse with their shadow digimon to form Lucemon and Mastemon. I know that it's not technically the correct way to obtain them... But who cares??? That would have been cool.
And, honestly.... Negamon doesn't do it, for me. Its apparence.... It's nothing much. We have some GREAT, GORGEOUS dark Omnimon concepts in the infinite library of Digimon... Omnimon Zwart... Omnimon ZwartD... Chaosmon.... I would have used anyone of them instead of an Knight/Homunculous from Fullmetal Alchemist.
But, at the end, the last sentence from Omnimon was really nice, and made me look back at the series with a new prospective. Digimon fight and kill each other, but they don't hate each other. It felt so much like "No hard feeling. Gg, WP. Maybe next time we will be friends"; I liked that attitude so much. As an former online player of FPS and MOBAs, it made me smile.
Omnimon would be a great gamer to play with. "FAIRPLAY" and "MVP" to him.
So yeah... All'n all, it was worth it. Good job.
WOW this is the first Digimon video I just come and watch without having just before finished watching the series it talks about, and damn I love it. This series looks awesome to me from this video even with all the weird timing decisions resulting in negative parts, becasue it mixing elements of all different Digimon products is just awesome, and also as a like monsters nerd I was kinda bummed that the physicality of Digimons never came into play so that, just that, that alone, that on its own, convinced me a hundred times over, thank you so much
billiam’s digimon videos are low key some of the best media reviews on UA-cam