One thing I think it's worth mentioning is that for the upgraded version, you get 2 free Kaito Shizuki in Arena when you unlock the DImir beginner deck, and 2 seems to be the right number for this deck right now.
@@eugenequek6797 Me? That's where I got the idea, yeah. A lot of my early pack openings helped pushed me in that direction, too. Though I threw in some anointers and combat researches and such. Been having some of the most intense matches with it. Edit: The last things I added were some surge engines and god damn people like killing them immediately haha
Kinda looks like a wasted hippie tbh. Love the content, ngl, but could perfectly live without some 40 yr old weedhead shticks, the pronounciations and the fake laughter
Was thinking a bit about arena budget an I had this thought: One of the cool things about Budget Magic is that it gets Seth to build decks around cards people are not using much and sometimes he finds cool sleeper strategies, like Hammer Time. I think it's fine that the budget decks are a little expensive on arena, because that's just the arena economy. I still think it's cool to watch videos of weird decks using unpopular cards.
Seth, probably better known as "Seth Probablybetterknownassaffronolive" looks like if I sat across from him at fnm, he'd be super chill, but have a terrifyingly good deck.
Deck also benefits from opponents not knowing how to play against it. It was funny watching mono-black grottos (match 4 game 1) let Seth put a counter on the anointer to put it to 4 power instead of removing it right away. I also really liked the stats data at the end of the video.
@@sontaranmc2109 60% of decks are sheoldred decks, 50% of decks are fable decks, and another 46% of decks are make disappear decks, with some overlap of the three, as per mtggoldfish data, that puts sheoldred at just below 5% of the metagame behind Oko, and more played than Uro at the time of their banning, not sure where the variety you're seeing is, grixis midrange as a deck sees more play than 4c energy did in standard, which is a deck that had 8 bans thrown at it for being so strong.
This deck is sick! I rly want to see a version of this in pioneer\explorer that uses red and or green, a jund, grixis, or 4 color build would be sweet!
Always love watching your videos and this was was super sweet! The synergies between all the cards was really cool to watch and I'm glad you put this together.
The first thing that popped in my head when you cast Stroke on Invoke was Sheoldred. It’s tough spot but I think it’s a punt. Sheoldred is just so good against your deck. While Negate plays around more cards, I think those cards are less relevant. You can beat spot removal or another Path.
I know it’s kinda hard to record at the perfect spot but I feel like high diamond/numbered mythic is a much more informative data set than sub 90s mythic where your opponent scoops twice in 5 minutes.
its absolutely just a punt, they would have cleaved the path of peril..... meaning its cmc is also 4 or higher, you saw zero non creature spells that were below 4 mana except uncleaved path, duress, and hearse, hearse does nothing there, duress does nothing there, and sheoldred would be hard to beat, saving distainful stroke was just always correct with the information you had.
I think it actually would have been correct to play the counters in opposite order, not just hindsight bias. Without the active graveyard hate I don't think you lose to the path of peril because of the recursion in the deck. I was more concerned about losing to sheoldred/ felt like the stroke was maybe wrong before you actually got punished. Deck was sweet!
Let me tell you, I tried your budget deck in Arena standard. I got literally eviscerated. never even had the slightest of chances. Even a crappy mono blue deck that all I seen them play was thirst for discovery, the blue serpent with ward 2(dom card) consider, and the blue djin with power equal to the instant and sorcery in their grave; beat me. It was a real 💩 show. Of course I only got to go first in one game, but that’s just arena for you. I haven’t bought the pass or anything this season, so I guess I should expect to do nothing but loose. But Jesus Christ, I’ve put 260$ into the game since I started playing a few months ago. You’d think that would be enough. B4 ppl tell me I just suck. I place top 3 in 99% of the drafts that I play in paper. I’m not terrible at the game. Arena is just rigged; and in a number of different ways from what I can tell. So I guess I just want to say; thanks for trying to help me have a decent deck in arena. But it’s definitely not the one. I got stomped every game. 😡
Let's play a deck that works best when I draw 4 cards between my upkeeps in a format where 60% of decks run a creature that turns that into 8 damage. I'm sure it will be fine...
Now, now, Seth. There's no higher caliber of skill and ability than playing a deck that plays itself in one of the most boring, braindead metas that standard - standard! - has had in the last half-decade. Show some respect to those invoke despair players! They'll go pro one day, you'll see!
Just as constructive critisism, mean this in good faith. I love these videos but the way Seth talks like a radio person the entyire time makes it super hard to watch sometimes. Elongating words like aaaaand theeeeen we paaaaaassss the tuuuurnnnnnn. Just gets exhausting.
Seth "BetterKnownAsSaffronOlive" is looking like he came down from the mountains and all for it
"ProbablyBetterKnownAsSaffronOlive"* (I know it's the same thing I'm just messing)
Absolutely, I like the look
I'd be more impressed if the investment guru Mr. Noah was really Seth on a side job.
Or from the north pole
Hair down Seth is the best Seth
One thing I think it's worth mentioning is that for the upgraded version, you get 2 free Kaito Shizuki in Arena when you unlock the DImir beginner deck, and 2 seems to be the right number for this deck right now.
I believe you only get one, which is how many I've been running in this style deck to save wildcards. Probably worth snagging another, though.
u running legenvd's list?
@@eugenequek6797 Me? That's where I got the idea, yeah. A lot of my early pack openings helped pushed me in that direction, too. Though I threw in some anointers and combat researches and such. Been having some of the most intense matches with it.
Edit: The last things I added were some surge engines and god damn people like killing them immediately haha
Best out-of-context quote of the day? "Yes! Stroke it. Stroke it." I died.
I went straight to the comments looking for this. His sinister enthusiasm while saying it was hilarious 😅
@@MiguelMaravilla No cuz literally😭😭
36:56 goddamn I was laser focused on Risk of Rain 2 and I had to pause to process what he just said 😂
I was barely paying attention and then I just heard this and almost laughed out loud. Thank god for headphones at work.
Opponent at 24:23 had a manual upkeep stop set in case of Sheoldred.
Little did they know... Seth only had Sheoldred-at-home.
Love the loose-hair-Seth, hope to see more of him in the future.
I as combing through the comments to see how much hair-love was down here, and add some if there wasn't enough
Kinda looks like a wasted hippie tbh. Love the content, ngl, but could perfectly live without some 40 yr old weedhead shticks, the pronounciations and the fake laughter
Heeeellloooo everyone, its Seth, probably better known as RASTAFARIAN OLIVE welcome to me video IRIE!
Mountain man Seth is a vibe
This deck is sick as a budget brew but holy crap this deck is craving a sheoldred
exactly and play set of Surge Engine makes this deck scary asf
The recursion from Puppeteer might be better. Makes the need for 2 answers instead of the 1 everybody already runs for Sheoldred. Idk though
Also Ledger Shredder looks perfect in order to draw 2 during your opponent turn
You can probably invest in a Sheoldred with Mr. Noah.
@@darklurkerirl6101 Order from Mr. Noah.
Was thinking a bit about arena budget an I had this thought: One of the cool things about Budget Magic is that it gets Seth to build decks around cards people are not using much and sometimes he finds cool sleeper strategies, like Hammer Time. I think it's fine that the budget decks are a little expensive on arena, because that's just the arena economy. I still think it's cool to watch videos of weird decks using unpopular cards.
His decks are really fun to take to a new FNM and then just rogue deck the crap out of them
LION'S MANE RETURNS
Seth, probably better known as "Seth Probablybetterknownassaffronolive" looks like if I sat across from him at fnm, he'd be super chill, but have a terrifyingly good deck.
Deck also benefits from opponents not knowing how to play against it. It was funny watching mono-black grottos (match 4 game 1) let Seth put a counter on the anointer to put it to 4 power instead of removing it right away.
I also really liked the stats data at the end of the video.
every time you speak and frame things in way that supports a positive world view I am thankful, which is every time
I would love to see an upgraded version of this in much abrew. It's a really neat strategy
I haven’t played standard since the last Ravnica cycle but this deck makes me want to play again.
Go for it! Standard’s actually in a really good spot right now, the meta is actually really varied and fun.
@@sontaranmc2109 60% of decks are sheoldred decks, 50% of decks are fable decks, and another 46% of decks are make disappear decks, with some overlap of the three, as per mtggoldfish data, that puts sheoldred at just below 5% of the metagame behind Oko, and more played than Uro at the time of their banning, not sure where the variety you're seeing is, grixis midrange as a deck sees more play than 4c energy did in standard, which is a deck that had 8 bans thrown at it for being so strong.
Surely if you don't care about budget, Ledger Shredder it's a perfect card for the deck. Don't really know what to cut, but they look perfect in here
47:36
Seth: It's not the end of the world
Sheoldred the Apocalypse has entered the chat
ey yo I didn’t know The Dude plays Magic!
Ajani making an appearance in MTGGoldfish?
Ajani the Unifier, perhaps
We need more Woodstock Seth going forwards
I’ve been running Gixian puppeteer in pioneer Rakdos and I’ve been very impressed
I love this kind of a deck! Definitely going to make the "not budget" version when I get home!
This was super fun to watch!
Seth got that drip 💧 💧 💧
This deck is sick! I rly want to see a version of this in pioneer\explorer that uses red and or green, a jund, grixis, or 4 color build would be sweet!
I’ve been doing something similar and breakdown heavy works pretty well with it and invoke despair is good removal and card draw in one
maybe for a non-budget version Ledger Shredder might be good to at least consistently get the draw 2 on your turn from the conniving?
Ty Seth. Keep on doing the Budget Magic
I have been down on standard since the meathook ban but this deck is sick, definitely gonna try it out
Damn Seth looking primal today
Always love watching your videos and this was was super sweet! The synergies between all the cards was really cool to watch and I'm glad you put this together.
I love it when Seth lets his hair down. 😂
Surfer dude Seth.
I wasn't aware MOST of these cards were a thing, lol.
*Thanks for the Content* !
Seth looks here like he plays on a pan in the mountains and makes short videos about it
Looks like Thirst can work in 2-color Blue decks too. Seems like it should see some play outside of Mono-U.
The first thing that popped in my head when you cast Stroke on Invoke was Sheoldred. It’s tough spot but I think it’s a punt. Sheoldred is just so good against your deck. While Negate plays around more cards, I think those cards are less relevant. You can beat spot removal or another Path.
Seth you're hair on this video was FIRE. you look so cool
Ha, thanks!
Really digging the hair down Seth. Oh and the deck too.
Seth getting ready for ginger brute cosplay this Christmas again.
I was sold magic beans once by this man.
Seth is my ghost of Christmas present and nothing else matters.
Am I missing something? Why no block at 5:56
Pretty cool deck brother.
Thanks!
This archetype is sick, would love to see a non budget list
Oh Shit, Seth with the hair down! Looking good hippie!
I really love this deck lol Need to try Grixis Draw Two in Commander, drawing cards is the best
Seth is really prepping for his Santa Claus cosplay
Im a sucker for dimir, drawing cards and reanimate so this was quality content for me
I know it’s kinda hard to record at the perfect spot but I feel like high diamond/numbered mythic is a much more informative data set than sub 90s mythic where your opponent scoops twice in 5 minutes.
This deck gets a lot better as soon as ONE drops, with the Phyrexian Arena reprint
That first match was grindy as hell and I am here for it!
2×Gurgling Anointer + 2×Dredging Claw
Have fun reanimating each other
Seth: "Cheap on Arena" "Only 16 rare snad no mythics"
Me: With 16 mythic wildcards and no rares. "Why god"
Looking good, Seth.
Thanks :)
@@MTGGoldfish You're quite welcome.
Match 3, a classic. Playing against an opponent with no skill but god tier luck and the most busted cards in standard. Good times.
I like the primal look on Seth. I like it a lot, actually.
I was expecting some reggae background music, good vibes brother
its absolutely just a punt, they would have cleaved the path of peril..... meaning its cmc is also 4 or higher, you saw zero non creature spells that were below 4 mana except uncleaved path, duress, and hearse, hearse does nothing there, duress does nothing there, and sheoldred would be hard to beat, saving distainful stroke was just always correct with the information you had.
Alls I gotta say is I am diggin this RaSethFarian look!
I have a very similar deck to this but I use vohar as my draw engine. Just wondering if it’s a better alternative to something like consider?
Black and blue and red tibalt rogue's class siphon insight steal a Planeswalker I totally wish to play
YO i like the new look!
I was literally thinking about brewing some Dimir D2. You guys are scary. Should i put a play set of Sheoldred tho. If so what cards do we replaced ?
You can check out the non-budget list in the article in the description
@@poiri ty for pointing it out
Bruhhh if there is ANY deck in standard that deserves to run Sheoldred it’s this one.
For a not budget version do you think it's viable to squeeze in some teferi, temporal pilgrim into the 75?
Maybe as 2ofs, but I think Ledger Shredder is a better investment overall. Also Combat Research seems decent.
You ever get the thought, "nail these IRL skull clamps." And, tired of being threatened...?
Yeah, invisible skull clamps, and " so what are they doing with skull clamps IRL?"
I think it actually would have been correct to play the counters in opposite order, not just hindsight bias. Without the active graveyard hate I don't think you lose to the path of peril because of the recursion in the deck. I was more concerned about losing to sheoldred/ felt like the stroke was maybe wrong before you actually got punished. Deck was sweet!
Here super early and literally all the comments are about Seth's hair hahahaha
seth looks awesome with his hair down
I liked and commented only to support more appearances from Sexy Lion Seth
May I recomend Security Bypass
Seth is the imbodiment of power with his hair down
I think I’m in love with Seth 😃
Saffron is turning into a wizard
that hair. Good lord that hair
Just because a play ended up being sub-optimal, doesn't mean that it's a punt!
Love it when budget decks wreck the neckbeards of Arena
Let me tell you, I tried your budget deck in Arena standard. I got literally eviscerated. never even had the slightest of chances. Even a crappy mono blue deck that all I seen them play was thirst for discovery, the blue serpent with ward 2(dom card) consider, and the blue djin with power equal to the instant and sorcery in their grave; beat me. It was a real 💩 show. Of course I only got to go first in one game, but that’s just arena for you. I haven’t bought the pass or anything this season, so I guess I should expect to do nothing but loose. But Jesus Christ, I’ve put 260$ into the game since I started playing a few months ago. You’d think that would be enough.
B4 ppl tell me I just suck. I place top 3 in 99% of the drafts that I play in paper. I’m not terrible at the game. Arena is just rigged; and in a number of different ways from what I can tell.
So I guess I just want to say; thanks for trying to help me have a decent deck in arena. But it’s definitely not the one. I got stomped every game. 😡
It's a great deck
Thanks!
Now that NNN is over 36:58
No Kaito, Teferi or Gix? I guess it wouldn't be budget anymore then, I guess.
Let's play a deck that works best when I draw 4 cards between my upkeeps in a format where 60% of decks run a creature that turns that into 8 damage. I'm sure it will be fine...
Litterally this and soldiers are the decks I built from bro
Better the spirit ascendant snow permanent than the evolved sleeper...
New charger: reggae Seth??
better known as Ajani?
Ledger Shredder would be good if it wasn’t budget haha
Anyone else here for the way seth pronounces, “opponent”?
RastaSaffron Olive, man....
That last opponent does not know how to play aggro. You don't wait against a midrange deck you go attacking as soon as possible.
Love it
BEARS DO NOT BEAT US WE BEAT BEARS 😂😂😂😂
hair down video!
PASS THE TURRRD
Seth is daddy af
Some serious Stroking and Thirsting going on in this video.
(Couldn't help myself.)
Now, now, Seth. There's no higher caliber of skill and ability than playing a deck that plays itself in one of the most boring, braindead metas that standard - standard! - has had in the last half-decade. Show some respect to those invoke despair players! They'll go pro one day, you'll see!
Just as constructive critisism, mean this in good faith. I love these videos but the way Seth talks like a radio person the entyire time makes it super hard to watch sometimes. Elongating words like aaaaand theeeeen we paaaaaassss the tuuuurnnnnnn. Just gets exhausting.
Meow