Seth: I had to learn to pronounce Eiganjo correctly since rotation is canceled. Also Seth: Toskia's welcome, Twinblade sniper The more things change, they more they stay the same.
@@bakaakasuna4097 Indeed. Bonecrusher 1) is two-for-one, since you can cast both modes, 2) prevents damage prevention on the shock side, which is occasionally relevant, 3) punishing to use targeted removal on, unlike the Sniper (which has two types...relevant for synergies, but also more vulnerable), and, probably most importantly 4) 4 power, making it a great attacker to put pressure on an opponent or to brick wall something. If Twinshot Sniper cycled instead of channeled and cantripped when it ETB along with the damage, I could see an argument for it being underrated. It's decent value in a deck like this that can make use of all parts of the buffalo, but it's no Bonecrusher.
@@Stray7 I was using it for a while in the fact of the Rotpriest plague that hit Arena for a bit because a channeled ability is not a spell!... By my Arena collection was garbage, so all that means is that I didn't have better options, not that they don't exist =P
@@MTGGoldfish I love that you spelled it correctly and not more accurately to how you pronounced it, suggesting that you know how it's spelled and yet insist that it's pronounced Eijanno
True but he was probably asking about standard and in standard it's because unlike the giant you don't get to play the creature after you do two damage
This video makes me wonder if the Nahiri's Resolve could be a good sideboard card in a non-dedicated deck, what with all the Sunfalls running around, and Jeskai being so good right now. Notably gives Ojutai infinite hexproof.
@@nikhilchhagan7371 Jeskai control is a very real deck with the hexproof dragon. Blue card draw spells replace bankbuster and they never needed fable anyway.
Correct. If it was just Iganjo it would sound like ee-ganjo if it was just Egango it would sound like eh-ganjo, but the ei at the front makes it sound like eye-ganjo. But given how Seth likes to troll, he may very well know how to pronounce it correctly but just wants to make people big mad.
Elesh Norn is basically like Loran, a good card to bring on the side board at the very least when you can. Her ability to shutdown battles in general, along with basically any ETB, has been a huge boon -- in particular against ramp decks which rely on Zendikar + Topiary Stomper to ramp she just shuts that down hard, just a matter of protecting her at that point (so bring in those Salvation / Loran's escape or enchantment removal against the Leyline Binding).
310.11b Sieges have the intrinsic ability “When the last defense counter is removed from this permanent, exile it, then you may cast it transformed without paying its mana cost.” That’s why I think a controller can cast the spell.
I've been playing your old disturbed spirits deck in an unnamed online format that definitely doesn't rebalance cards to make them better It's pretty good 👍 👌 ☺️
I don't think there's really any way to get punished for it (at least ways that people actually play, there are a couple of really janky land destruction spells but I've never actually seen anyone use them).
Gotta say, with the rotation, I've been able to play some really fun decks. I have recently been enjoying a mono-white deck with a blue sideboard built around Heliod and Inv. of Theros
I'm pretty sure the stolen battle would work, the problem with cards like Sheoldred is that they specify that they come back "under their owners control" which is why flipping them when stolen is bad.
I have a very similar historic deck that I've been running for a long time where it also runs Solemn Simulacra and Brilliant Restorations. It's just one of the most fun decks to play with.
@@LadyMapi i actually run in the trenches in a modified version of seth’s convoke tokens deck from the early access day of MOM standard and sometimes that does come in clutch honestly. though paying 3 and then 6 later for an o-ring does feel really bad it’s still been very useful more often than i thought it would be
I've been playing a deck very similar to this one, except I splashed G for Rocco, Street Chef. The value is insane! If you can stick Rocco and Mom, get a Nahiri's Resolve on the battlefield and cast Etali, the triggers are like a slot machine. It sounds like a lot has to go right, but I've been pulling this off somewhat constantly. No other deck in Standard can keep up with this value train.
I've been playing this deck since Resolve was released! It is definitely a pile of value and works surprisingly well. Stealing some ideas from this deck for mine
I was running this deck before the ban, but fable of the mirror breaker is kind of essential for the deck. Seems strange to run jetmir's garden and not have atleast 1 green card though. the Rocco tutor is perfect in this deck, letting you run less copies of mom. 4x Lay down arms is also essential imo in the main. and because of the 2 drops you can get away with 22 lands easily. No serra paragons or wandering emperor is also trolling XD.
Flipping battle's goes to the opp because it goes to exile, checks who the owner is, and then the owner of the card casts the back half for free as when cards shift zones, it defaults to return to the owner > the controller. It's somewhat similar to Cloudshifting a stolen creature which reads "Return that card to the battlefield under your control." Because the default is to return a non-owned permanent to its owner, not controller, this text is needed. At least I'm pretty sure that's right?
Technically, since it says when it's defeated you (the controller) exile it and cast it, it doesn't actually have the wording of "Under its owners control" or "by its owner" or something, so, unless there's secret rules tomfoolery, if you cast a stolen battlefield and then defeat it, you should be the one who gets to cast it, since it never checks its owner, just its controller. I've been scouring the... Okay, first page or so of google results, and I can't find anything that would suggest it'd do the thing the Saga Praetors do.
There is just one against the odds deck I wanna see. Invasion of ravnica. It is really fun and good with cards like bloodthithe and invasion of amonkhet(I think thats the dimir one). To flip it, you can just use the four damage battle. It's like battle tribal but with two colors
I wish Arena allowed you to view your opponent’s hand when viewing the battlefield at the end of a game so you can see their battle plan to better understand why they scooped/lost/won or if you were inspired by their deck, see what other shenanigans they had in hand at the end of a game. This may seem like a huge advantage for a best of 3, but I don’ really see the potential when there’s side boarding.
Yeah, if Standard could stay like this forever I could die happy. Seems like everyone was doing something interesting and even the boring decks (like Soliders) has unique takes on the archetype.
I hope we eventually see a more agro version, Nahiri's Abandon or something which was a tad cheaper, gave +2/-1 and fully removes your team (no choice) so that you can't block. Obviously this is a very rough idea and would need some tweaking but I think it'd be more interesting to really channel players into agro.
So if you actually check the popular decks metagame for standard. The soldiers deck does play 2 Faerie Masterminds and 2 Skrelv's in the main deck. Skrelv I agree with but unsure about the main deck mastermind out of a soldiers list
30:25 I mulligan only on free one from commander, no lands, all lands and sometimes on 1 land hand or 5lands. Card games are already a game of chance and while we can skew the probability one way or another, i value 1 extra card and relying on the 30% chance a turn to draw land more than the idea i'd get a better hand. If i concede in 3 turns, no hard feeling go next but going to 5 cards is very miserable experience, even if you win, i'd rather go next and have a blast in next game where RNG did not screw me with starting hand than play the 5cards in hand game.
That third deck is super sweet - Tocasia's Welcome's a genius inclusion since there are a bunch of Flash Soldiers in Standard (including Protect The Negotiators). I honestly feel like that's just a better version on Soldiers (though it does feel like a betrayal that it has a couple non-Soldiers in it). EDIT: Match 4, not 3. Oops!
I dont get why they didnt do a last rotation before making Standard into extended. Its really more odd because all bams we got were cards that were going to rotate anyway.
At 5 colorless mana, Invasion of Ravnica has been fantastic for me since the ban. It exiles nearly every relevant Planeswalker, enchantment, artifact, and Atraxa. Also, it flips to a 5/5 artifact creature making it resilient to most spot removal.
It was one of our opponent's battles that we controlled (we had hit it with Etali). For some reason I was worried that because it exiles itself the opponent would regain control of it (similar to how we tried to flip our opponent's Sheoldred a couple weeks ago and the opponent go the saga side).
I don' t understand how I've used this deck and lost 7 games straight and Olive keeps getting wins, possibly the least successful deck I've ever used of his
I think it might partly be because I've spent the past 7 years playing Panharmonicon decks. If there's one kind of deck I should be halfway decent at playing it's decks like this lol
I’ve revisited this deck after about a week and have found more success after a lot more practice! I don’t think I’ll ever be able to play as consistently as you, but I’m gonna keep playing and learning!
Seth: I had to learn to pronounce Eiganjo correctly since rotation is canceled.
Also Seth: Toskia's welcome, Twinblade sniper
The more things change, they more they stay the same.
“Twinblade Sniper” made me chuckle hysterically. Never change Seth please.
"Toskia's Welcome" lol
Quite a stretch comparing it to bone crusher but sure
@@bakaakasuna4097 Indeed. Bonecrusher 1) is two-for-one, since you can cast both modes, 2) prevents damage prevention on the shock side, which is occasionally relevant, 3) punishing to use targeted removal on, unlike the Sniper (which has two types...relevant for synergies, but also more vulnerable), and, probably most importantly 4) 4 power, making it a great attacker to put pressure on an opponent or to brick wall something.
If Twinshot Sniper cycled instead of channeled and cantripped when it ETB along with the damage, I could see an argument for it being underrated. It's decent value in a deck like this that can make use of all parts of the buffalo, but it's no Bonecrusher.
@@Stray7 I was using it for a while in the fact of the Rotpriest plague that hit Arena for a bit because a channeled ability is not a spell!...
By my Arena collection was garbage, so all that means is that I didn't have better options, not that they don't exist =P
I'm a simple Seth fan. I see "blink," and I click play immediately.
We need a new soulherder video
blink is my favorite action
Exactly 🤣
Most Seth fans are simple.
Who is Seth? I only know SaffronOlive
1:03:30 I think it’s a massive flavor win that All Will Be One can’t win battles.
1:03:39 They went out of their way to specify it could target everything but battles to stop all will be one from instaflipping every battle
It also only targets your opponents' stuff, so if it included battles, it still couldn't target yours.
I'm so glad Seth has changed his ways. Everytime someone played Eiganjou, I died a little inside
How are you still alive? I've said Eiganjo soooo many times.
@@MTGGoldfish I love that you spelled it correctly and not more accurately to how you pronounced it, suggesting that you know how it's spelled and yet insist that it's pronounced Eijanno
@@MTGGoldfish if you're committed to getting the pronunciation right, consider "a gone joe" as the one you choose. It's probably the closest thing.
2:59 FWIW, Twinshot Sniper is a staple in Legacy Painter now because you can weld it in and out of play repeatedly.
True but he was probably asking about standard and in standard it's because unlike the giant you don't get to play the creature after you do two damage
28:40 Nice of the opponent to choose to not get back their Restoration of Eiganjo.
they just forgot it was there😆
This video makes me wonder if the Nahiri's Resolve could be a good sideboard card in a non-dedicated deck, what with all the Sunfalls running around, and Jeskai being so good right now. Notably gives Ojutai infinite hexproof.
Jeskai? With no fable or bankbuster?
@@nikhilchhagan7371 Jeskai control is a very real deck with the hexproof dragon. Blue card draw spells replace bankbuster and they never needed fable anyway.
It is good against control if it sticks on the battlefield, even just as wrath protection.
@@nikhilchhagan7371 Jeskai was not a real deck until those cards rotated haha.
@@tomsmith4698 the arena championship the day before the ban says otherwise
Seth: Now I have to pronounce Eiganjo (Eh-gan-joe) correctly.
Me, muttering to myself: It's actually Ay-gahn-joe
Correct. If it was just Iganjo it would sound like ee-ganjo if it was just Egango it would sound like eh-ganjo, but the ei at the front makes it sound like eye-ganjo.
But given how Seth likes to troll, he may very well know how to pronounce it correctly but just wants to make people big mad.
I probably should have said slightly more correctly ;)
ugh, if you're going to be pedantic at least be correct. that first part "ei" is pronounced like "hey" minus the h. so like, 'ey-gahn-joe.
@@clayhowell613 ...Yeah, much like "Hay" without the "H". We're describing the same sound.
"Raffine is the best creature in Standard"
Sheoldred: "Am I a joke to you?"
Eh, Sheoldred I can kill. One or two Raffine attacks and I feel like I can't win.
Seth: I don't know how we won that game
Seth, 10 seconds later: I dont think they can beat Mom.
Elesh Norn is basically like Loran, a good card to bring on the side board at the very least when you can. Her ability to shutdown battles in general, along with basically any ETB, has been a huge boon -- in particular against ramp decks which rely on Zendikar + Topiary Stomper to ramp she just shuts that down hard, just a matter of protecting her at that point (so bring in those Salvation / Loran's escape or enchantment removal against the Leyline Binding).
Honestly, Seth looking really good lately. Might be the lighting but yeah... Looking good, man.
Thanks!
Salty Enchantress getting their just desserts was cathartic
nice
nice
nice
nice
*punts, scoops*
310.11b Sieges have the intrinsic ability “When the last defense counter is removed from this permanent, exile it, then you may cast it transformed without paying its mana cost.”
That’s why I think a controller can cast the spell.
Always feels good when you beat a "counter everything" deck. I hate counter spells so much
Thank you so much for pronouncing Eiganjo properly. You have lifted a weight from my soul.
Didn't even know Nahiri's Resolve was a card. Definitely gonna pick some up!
Yeah! It's one of the new Aftermath cards.
I've been playing your old disturbed spirits deck in an unnamed online format that definitely doesn't rebalance cards to make them better
It's pretty good 👍 👌 ☺️
52:28 "I'm glad I didn't scoop I guess"
The most Seth thing that Seth has ever Seth'd
Is there a reason to stack the ossifications? I know there's not much risk to a basic plains being destroyed, but it still worries me
The arena ui is confusing in case they destroy one of them lol
I don't think there's really any way to get punished for it (at least ways that people actually play, there are a couple of really janky land destruction spells but I've never actually seen anyone use them).
that tocasia welcome game was super funny
hello seth! how convenient, I was thinking about making a blink deck but I suck at deckbuilding. once again saving me the hassle lol
Shame
Some major character development for my boy Seth on the pronunciations. 👏
Gotta say, with the rotation, I've been able to play some really fun decks. I have recently been enjoying a mono-white deck with a blue sideboard built around Heliod and Inv. of Theros
Yeah, I was having success with that even before the bannings. Might have to try it again, seems like it should be even better now.
"I don't know why I'm so scared of this going wrong."
*Sheoldred flashbacks.*
Gee, I wonder.
49:32 May be my favorite seth moment ever
I'm pretty sure the stolen battle would work, the problem with cards like Sheoldred is that they specify that they come back "under their owners control" which is why flipping them when stolen is bad.
I have a very similar historic deck that I've been running for a long time where it also runs Solemn Simulacra and Brilliant Restorations. It's just one of the most fun decks to play with.
The answer to your "Enchantment Mom Removal", Seth, is *The Fall of Lord Konda*
Also good for banishing *Sheoldred* (both types) to the Shadow Realm!
One of those forgotten, but ok cards. It fills in a few of my Commander decks.
There's also In The Trenches... pretty unlikely to see that one, though.
@@LadyMapi i actually run in the trenches in a modified version of seth’s convoke tokens deck from the early access day of MOM standard and sometimes that does come in clutch honestly. though paying 3 and then 6 later for an o-ring does feel really bad it’s still been very useful more often than i thought it would be
I've been playing a deck very similar to this one, except I splashed G for Rocco, Street Chef. The value is insane! If you can stick Rocco and Mom, get a Nahiri's Resolve on the battlefield and cast Etali, the triggers are like a slot machine. It sounds like a lot has to go right, but I've been pulling this off somewhat constantly. No other deck in Standard can keep up with this value train.
I've been playing this deck since Resolve was released! It is definitely a pile of value and works surprisingly well. Stealing some ideas from this deck for mine
I will never get tired of watching Seth play sequels to Panharmonicon and Yarok.
I remember the days of his standard yarok deck, also I CAN FINALLY PLAY NECRODUALITY WITHOUT IT GETTING INVOKED!!
"Seth and blink decks go together like ham and eggs and like ham and eggs they'll nourish us in the coming years"
Boros is my favorite guild. Blink is my favorite archetype. This is perfection!
Nahiri's Resolve is really sweet!
I was running this deck before the ban, but fable of the mirror breaker is kind of essential for the deck. Seems strange to run jetmir's garden and not have atleast 1 green card though. the Rocco tutor is perfect in this deck, letting you run less copies of mom. 4x Lay down arms is also essential imo in the main. and because of the 2 drops you can get away with 22 lands easily. No serra paragons or wandering emperor is also trolling XD.
Flipping battle's goes to the opp because it goes to exile, checks who the owner is, and then the owner of the card casts the back half for free as when cards shift zones, it defaults to return to the owner > the controller. It's somewhat similar to Cloudshifting a stolen creature which reads "Return that card to the battlefield under your control." Because the default is to return a non-owned permanent to its owner, not controller, this text is needed. At least I'm pretty sure that's right?
Technically, since it says when it's defeated you (the controller) exile it and cast it, it doesn't actually have the wording of "Under its owners control" or "by its owner" or something, so, unless there's secret rules tomfoolery, if you cast a stolen battlefield and then defeat it, you should be the one who gets to cast it, since it never checks its owner, just its controller. I've been scouring the... Okay, first page or so of google results, and I can't find anything that would suggest it'd do the thing the Saga Praetors do.
1:11:12 You could also Nahiri's resolve and soul partition it in response to the cankerbloom. Pretty slow play though
Seth "How many lords can they possibly have?"
Probably just 4 ;) 8 If you consider Coppercoat a lord
19:50 THANK YOU WOTC FOR THIS BLESSING
lmao
omg so awesome im playing boros basically mono white with etali.... but now im xcited to play this i have most the cards super cool deck....
You should talk to Dev from SBMTG cause he was also super happy about twinshot
I think he's right! Sleeper card for sure.
One thing that might be interesting to try is devilish valet. Since it sees all the creatures entering at the same time might be a bit explosive
Shocking no one, panharmonicon is good and Seth plays it great. We love to see it!
There is just one against the odds deck I wanna see. Invasion of ravnica. It is really fun and good with cards like bloodthithe and invasion of amonkhet(I think thats the dimir one). To flip it, you can just use the four damage battle. It's like battle tribal but with two colors
Mmm, that does sound fun!
@@MTGGoldfish It really is. I built it grixis style, but do what you do.
the favorite deck I use after the banning is esper flash with lorelmaster. Really grindy and you can also put errant and giada in there
That could be sweet in that Soldier Flash deck we played against.
I think mkm makes this deck a ton better. Any chance for an updated deck vid?
I wish Arena allowed you to view your opponent’s hand when viewing the battlefield at the end of a game so you can see their battle plan to better understand why they scooped/lost/won or if you were inspired by their deck, see what other shenanigans they had in hand at the end of a game. This may seem like a huge advantage for a best of 3, but I don’ really see the potential when there’s side boarding.
Ossification works with blink if you’re having to exile any tokens your opponent has played.
Seth laught is so pure it make me happy
Artisan Allstar Circuit Mender popping off. :^)
This was a super sweet league, not sure if you just ran into every little timmy on arena or if the little timmy decks are actually good now lol.
Yeah, if Standard could stay like this forever I could die happy. Seems like everyone was doing something interesting and even the boring decks (like Soliders) has unique takes on the archetype.
He broke the enchantment guy, "nice" for days
I hope we eventually see a more agro version, Nahiri's Abandon or something which was a tad cheaper, gave +2/-1 and fully removes your team (no choice) so that you can't block. Obviously this is a very rough idea and would need some tweaking but I think it'd be more interesting to really channel players into agro.
Seth putting all the ossifications on one land scared me so much. I know that the opponent having land destruction is very unlikely but still
So if you actually check the popular decks metagame for standard. The soldiers deck does play 2 Faerie Masterminds and 2 Skrelv's in the main deck. Skrelv I agree with but unsure about the main deck mastermind out of a soldiers list
30:25 I mulligan only on free one from commander, no lands, all lands and sometimes on 1 land hand or 5lands. Card games are already a game of chance and while we can skew the probability one way or another, i value 1 extra card and relying on the 30% chance a turn to draw land more than the idea i'd get a better hand. If i concede in 3 turns, no hard feeling go next but going to 5 cards is very miserable experience, even if you win, i'd rather go next and have a blast in next game where RNG did not screw me with starting hand than play the 5cards in hand game.
The Fall of Lord Konda can deal with MOM. Nobody ever sees it coming.
That third deck is super sweet - Tocasia's Welcome's a genius inclusion since there are a bunch of Flash Soldiers in Standard (including Protect The Negotiators). I honestly feel like that's just a better version on Soldiers (though it does feel like a betrayal that it has a couple non-Soldiers in it).
EDIT: Match 4, not 3. Oops!
That is match 4, but i totally agree.
@@deadded5793 You're completely right.
@@LadyMapi 👍
Got confused by the Nice Spam of the opponent
Yeah, that was a really cool take on Soldiers. Flash creatures with Tocasia's Welcome seems really solid.
Hit em with the twinblade sniper
Great content Seth
I dont get why they didnt do a last rotation before making Standard into extended. Its really more odd because all bams we got were cards that were going to rotate anyway.
I flipped opponent's sheoldred I stole and they got it but I believe those say "under the owner's control.
Seth: "Now I have to learn to say Eiganjo correctly." *pronounces Eiganjo incorrectly* lololol
Eh-ee-gahn-joe
I wasn't sold on Nahiri's resolve (CMC 5 it's a lot) but I may have to reconsider my position now
Id love to see an update 😊
maybe we just all send "thank you for unbanning enchantments" tweets to wotc
Seth im digging the shirt in this one 😂
Ha, thanks!
32:58 Nice
No way!!! Seth pronounced Eiganjo?! Mind blown haha
Seth: We can't win. because of All will be One. literally has ossification in hand to deal with koth, while at 20 life. You had some time.
Damn I expected a Nahiri deck with living weapons to bring the creatures back, rip.
BROTHERSHOOD IS NOT A WORD Jamaica me crazy
At 5 colorless mana, Invasion of Ravnica has been fantastic for me since the ban. It exiles nearly every relevant Planeswalker, enchantment, artifact, and Atraxa. Also, it flips to a 5/5 artifact creature making it resilient to most spot removal.
Seth, lets see an against the odds poll with just blink synergy cards
Hey Seth, what does your shirt say at the beginning?
Hunter Thompson for Sherriff.
Panhar-Mommy-con was made just for Seth
Seth, you have a hole in your chest! Somebody call an ambulance!
You can actually play a Nahiri's resolve... just in time for 5 color ramp to resolve a 7 drop.
Is the name "Much Abrew" officially retired?
Oh I miss the days where every episode was titled the full "Much Abrew About Nothing"
I'm confused as to why Seth thought his opponent would get the flipped Battle when he's played them many times before?
It was one of our opponent's battles that we controlled (we had hit it with Etali). For some reason I was worried that because it exiles itself the opponent would regain control of it (similar to how we tried to flip our opponent's Sheoldred a couple weeks ago and the opponent go the saga side).
@MTGGoldfish Oohhh I missed that it was an opponents battle
Yea thats definitely confusing
I run it in a Mardu Mishra Deck with Unearth and Prototype
rest assured you are still not pronouncing "Eiganjo" correctly! (nor Brotherhood's End)
But now I'm trying!
This just in, Nahiri’s Resolve is better than Nahiri’s Fizzle.
Nice!
Oops.
I'm kinda sad this deck isn't playing green for fauna shaman
You still aren't saying it right, but it's better than before.
Its funny that black still has 2 other enchantment sack spells that are 2 mana and they don't see play
I got notification and got here sub 5 min
I see Roadside Reliquary, I updoot
Rip “Eijano”
seth dont over your opponant card if you dont want them to remember to use them
"WotC's gonna make me pronounce Eiganjo correctly"
(still not pronouncing it correctly)
Toe-cah-see-uh!!!!
Kind of funny how a black card was keeping enchantment card back in format, great design wizards...
Yeah, that's 2023 Magic for ya.
“Teachings of the Karen”
If Seth gets into the habit of pronouncing Eiganjo correctly I’m going to have to start mocking him for not using the right pitch accent instead.
No promises on that ;)
I don' t understand how I've used this deck and lost 7 games straight and Olive keeps getting wins, possibly the least successful deck I've ever used of his
I think it might partly be because I've spent the past 7 years playing Panharmonicon decks. If there's one kind of deck I should be halfway decent at playing it's decks like this lol
I’ve revisited this deck after about a week and have found more success after a lot more practice! I don’t think I’ll ever be able to play as consistently as you, but I’m gonna keep playing and learning!