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@@l0sts0ul89 in Rage of Ultron, Ultron has a conversation with Hank Pym where he is extremely emotional. He then goes on a long ass rant on why everyone must die all of it linking to Hank's old way of thinking. He is a genocidal maniac, but he is one with emotion. Also he was an actual human woman once
And people say he is a "good person" and human, He's already was creepy, i don't think his human after plan to be a child to be close friend for monster girl? *COINCIDENCE?* *I THINK NOT!*
For me, actually, the more I read the story the more I thought how bad it was. Specifically, it baffled me how the comic pretended that the species and races who lived by the mantra of "might is right" or who practiced slavery somehow were the ones with the best technological advancements. Even if they're aliens, they obviously behave not too different from humans and if we have learned anything from our own history is that promoting slavery, racism and/or never-ending wars doesn't create grounds for technological progress, quite the opposite actually. Second thing that's incredibly stupid is how the supposedly smartest characters approach moral dilemmas as if they were kindergartners. Are you telling me that "genius" Robot is incapable of realizing that just because you're a descendant of the Zaxal royal family you won't necessarily become an slaver? How stupid and racist you have to be to arrive to that conclusion? Furthermore, the idiot was in favor of shutting their dimension from others because of some irrational fear that he, what? Thought they would conquer other dimensions as they had done in the past?! Dude, you ended that threat, you can now open the dimensions and trade with other worlds, that would've completely solved the threat of any future Flaxan invasion if you have made them trade partners with Earthlings... JEESUS, how is Robot so stupid?!! Last but not least, Dinosaurus. My God, it's like it was written by a 6 year old. You have a fictional world filled with demi Gods and beings capable of rewriting reality and you're talking about fossil fuels, solar panels and global warming?? I mean, come on, there is not a single being in the Planet able to generate enough energy to replace fossil fuels or to clean the air from the CO2/methane??? It's hard to take the rest of the story seriously when I read shit like that, honestly.
@@austinpowers3659 hard to buy that excuse when every single character in the story behave and think in the same way as Robot even though they're considered "smart". Oliver, Dinosaurus, Robot and others I don't remember, they're all "geniuses" who arrive to the same moral conclusions, that utilitarian morality is the most logical and right thing to follow which then leads then to considering commiting genocides. The story teaches them that their conclusion is "wrong" because, well, "killing is bad" and "oh my god, if you kill someone others will feel really bad about losing a loved one"... and that's the moral epiphany. It really is stupid and simple-minded, I wish there had been better characters in the story.
@@kazuoua Maybe he knows the flaxans etter tha you do and is aware that they are dmaned to the genetic level. it is only racism if it is irrational. I agree on the interdimensional trading part though (although maybe shit is more dangerous that we thought). PD: Regarding the might makes right slaver mentality halting progress, I would say that ot could just apply to a subset of minds from certain species, humans among them. Maybe they get creative boners from some form of nom human sadism or just sheer violence.
@@ThatGuy-en2nn Not really. She only tried to keep him from murdering /enslaving innocent people. For all both knew, they weren't really compatible for one another. But Rudolph saw something he wanted (Amanda) and made plans to get it. Rudolph made his own bed. She never told him to act like some dictator. He should have listened to the "Love of his Life", when she tried to stand against him. But no, he was manipulative, selfish, deceptive from day one. It was always about what HE wanted. There is no way that she could be blamed for HIS terrible decisions. Yes, she cheated on him, because she would have gone for other men, if Rudolph hadn't cockblocked her , whenever she dared to show interest in someone. Then he goes on to tell her how "he was going out of his way to help her", which is bull. He was GROOMING her. And as I said, he refused to let her go back home, because he wanted her by his side. The more I think about it, the creepier he becomes. I wonder why people find themselves relating to this manipulative, abusive stalker. At least it explains how Reylo was such a popular ship.
Wow robot was such a good sport after Mark ripped his brain out stuffed it in a jar and forced him to become an idea database. He was just like “yeah that’s fair” and accepted it with dignity
The story of a funny looking robot who's controlled by a smart af Discord moderator-looking guy that is SimpingAnUnderage-looking girl who can turn into an Hulk-like monster
@@DrippleDragon I'm not talking about what they've cut out. I'm specifically talking about the race and sex swapping from white male and female characters only. They're going to do multiple seasons, so whatever they don't use now they can use at a later date, or use elements of in a different storyline.
@@LordVulcan93 I know this might be news to you but these kinds of changes are not necessarily made for PC reasons but to change the story so it gives something fresh for the readers to chew on. Also a second season is never a sure thing. So they have to condense story arcs into more bite size pieces. and no they cant just use things for a later date. Lets say they get 10 seasons of 8-12 episodes thats not enough to cover all the story arcs. they will be lucky to hit 5 seasons.
This is assuming viltrumite blood would react the same way to the cloning process as human blood would. Cause remember when Cecil and the GDA tried to experiment on Mark’s blood, it resisted pretty much everything.
@@InstiGator805 ....Sharing their views doesnt mean I have the right to shut down views contrary to that view. If someone cares about something and mentions it, you discuss it with them. You don't say, You shouldn't care about it, and enforce a way of thinking upon them. If you don't like his view, then say it. Don't beat around the bush.
I’ll never not feel sorry for robot. He may have lost his way, but he still wanted to do good things, and in the process lost everything he worked so hard for. His friends, Amanda, even his body got taken from him
this mans story is he was a brain in a jar, lived threw racism. got a body, lost his friends. got a girlfriend, his girlfriend cheated on him. got to rule the world, is now a brain in a jar ruled by the world. like bruh he has lived far longer then most people and ended up losing more then he gained
I still don't get it to be honest. Sure he did some bad things, but it was mostly on personal level and really did not have real negative impact on the people. Mark ranted on about how Rex is bad because he wants control and shits, yet Mark accepts to be am Emperor, his dad was an Emperor. Societies need leaders, there has to be some level of control, and Rex technically did it best. The only reason, the real reason they opposed his rule was simply because well...he killed some people. Omni Man wiped the entire Guardians of the Globe and killed countless citizens, hell even geocoded against one planet and blew up his home empire and somehow everyone's ok with him being the Emperor afterwards. Rex ended up becoming evil because people like Mark choose to ignore the goods and focus on the bad when it satisfy their lust for revenge. While at the same time, he ignores the bad and focus on the good of his friends and families (Which by the way, Rex was once also his friend). And that son of Monster Girl? He acts like his people and family's are some innocent peace-loving dudes who did not try to invade Earth multiple times over and over and over and over after being told to stop being dicks at least twice. Maybe its not Rex's problem, maybe its his people's problem? Even after reformation, even after Rex brings the planet into prosperity, one overthrow and then they start go back trying to invade another dimension again, like jesus. Honestly, I think Rex's biggest mistake was betraying Mark before he at least tries to explain his plans of what an ideal utopia has to be. And his worst move was at the end where he makes enemies out of the Vultrumites. It would not matter if Mark has more power, because Earth loved Rex. If Mark tries to overthrow Rex, what's he gonna say to the people of Earth? "Guys, the dude who gives you Utopia, ends all slavery, deals with all criminals, brings peace and all the happiness actually kills some of my friends. So he has to be removed, please go back to the old ways and pretend this Utopia no longer exist. Oh, and there're aliens secretly breeding on your planet, just ignore them!"
@@giuseppepiuma1965 Some yes. But so did Omni Man. Yet most seems to get Omni-Man a pass despite him not doing anything productive in return. Rex at least manage to get things done, things that Cecil would have done anyway, which is acknowledged by those who eventually accepted Rex's positions, the things Robot have done are the things Cecil would have done if he had the options. Killing and Betrayal is nothing new, it happens on regular basis.
@@peerawat9x without Omni-Man the Viltrumite War could've be lost leaving earth in diret danger or indirect danger when Thragg came over the first time if Nolan wasn't there to rule over the Viltrumites and change their way. Not saying he deserved more forgiveness, just that it's plain false he didn't do anything useful for the planet. Second you have to consider the different birth circumstances: Nolan lived most of his life raised and brainwashed by an alien dictatorship, while Rex was born and grew on earth even on very particular circumstances, exposed since earth to human values. Regarding Cecil, he was one of a kind and betrayed allies on the daily basis but I don't remember him directly killing his allies in a preventing way. Even when fighting Mark, he tried to stop him rather than kill him. So I'd say it's a little different even if the parallels are there In the end from the logical point of view Rex was way better than Nolan in saving the lives of his people and helping them in the grand scheme of things but on the human (which is pretty relevant in Invincible's story) side Nolan turned into a hero choosing peace over war for his people, even the one who opposed him (which yeah came and bit him in the ass later on) and never directly forced them to do anything under his rule, while in the end Rex directly exterminated not some but most of the heroes of earth and his friends and attempted to do the same to his lover. From the human point of view Rex went from being a hero to a villain while Nolan the opposite
@@moth8775 how does it not make sense? Monster Girl transformed into her monster form. That form is male. And while male Monster Girl banged the alien chick and got her pregnant. Pretty straightforward really
A floating, malformed human in a tube to a clone copy of another teammate with his intellect to a brain in a jar all while turning from a superhero to a super tyrant to an eternal prisoner. Man, his life is a rollercoaster of transformations.
He is so human lol, having contradictions yet he has a very distinct goal or role as a character. Thats being a good guy who just obsesses over ruling things.
@@333dae i mean most of the human characters we got from fantasies dont act any human at all. Its kinda rare to see a character with some logical flaws and interesting contradictions between what they want and the consequences of it. Realistic yet still in a fantasy. Like that, if all i said makes sense
Yeah, I actually really like how after ruling for a LONG ASS time in a planet of his own(their own, with Monster Girl), he grew dissatisfied with Earth and takes charge because he knows he's the only one really capable of ruling such a chaotic place. I'm so glad that Earth thrives under Robot's rule, it logically should be since he's super smart and has a lot of experience already, but most of the time in fiction whenever something like this happens the new ruler can't control their new domain very well, or smth goes wrong etc. And in the end he's not bitter with his new role. He gets to give his opinions regarding Earth, but someone who has the humanity that Robot lost throughout the years gets to be in charge. Props to beating Mark 1 on 1 too by exploiting his weakness
@@chuckingreaper8654 Paradoxical as it may seem but immortal does not mean cannot die. Yes she can be killed, die from disease etc but if she stays healthy she can essentially live forever.
You forgot the little bit of the final issue. Where Immortal and Monster girl go to Rex's brain. Then when she's about to leave, Rex asks her to stay because he feels lonely, but MG shuts him down since he brought that situation to him and leaves. And he just accepts it
Agreed. Love Robert Kirkmans Story telling style! He is very very talented and criminally underrated as a Comic book Author, I wish him the best in his Career as an Author and Executive Producer of the Franchise!
@@bendergamer6774 I genuinely don't understand why she never learned Flaxan. She lived there for literally a thousand years. On the point of Robot probably not wanting her to, you have to realize that they ruled Flaxan TOGETHER. Robot was still good, then. He even makes a point, saying something to the extent of "You would blend in more if you would learn the Flaxan tongue."
@@tabbycrumch3062 that just shows she did not really care for the greater picture. Just about the people she knows on personal level. That lead her behaviour to be with little hindsight not everyone can accept or see reason in temporary suffering for future.She probaly also never really had intrest in Ruling and was a ruler just in name only.
In the comics there's a part where they talk about this and how she couldn't learn. The language is INSANELY complex. It took Robot (an absolute genius) a decade to learn the language and monster girl says it has sounds she doesn't even know how to make. It's not that she didn't try to learn, it's impossible for a non-genius.
I remember the comics saying that robot was infertile or something i keep forgeting, something about the cloning progress? This was like 9 years ago so i cant remember it clearer, but i do remember something about them unable to have a child mentioned
Wow! I just realized the Mauler Twins arguing about who the clone is isn’t just a running joke-it’s actually telling us how this cloning process works! So Rudy gets a new body in the show, we’ll know exactly why and how it works. Edit: CALLED IT!!!!
@Brian Babin I'm not sure what you think "head canon" means, especially since you couldn't be bothered to spell it properly. Therefore, I will explain why this is not, in fact, head canon: It's a simple observation based on the Mauler Twins fighting over who is the clone, since they can only remember the same stuff as the original. But then it turns out that both are the clone, but they do have the original's memories. So even though the original Rudy will die, the new one will think he's the original. And now we know that from how the Mauler twins have been depicted. I have imposed literally nothing from outside the show itself, which is what head canon ACTUALLY is.
@Keegan Dilley but like shouldn't they know considering the one who got cloned would've layed down in the left (or right) bed and woken up in the opposite one? kinda easy to tell with some deductive reasoning
@@benjamin32827 They probably stop thinkin about it after a while but in case with the Levy incident it was pretty clear who was the original clone and it just wouldnt go over. Mauler said it himself he cant work if he knows who the original clone is.
@@giorgosnikolaidis374 it's gotten to a point where it doesn't even matter anymore, they've grown so much into different personalities despite being the same individual for all intents and purposes that finding out who is the original wouldn't matter. So it works out regardless.
Robot: I know what it's like to have everyone judge you by appearance. Monster Girl: How would you know? You're a robot. *Y--You just proved his point...*
Is no one gonna talk about how sick his design got, like the black armor was just the dopest looking, let alone the fact that it just displayed a sort of smug supiority through mask design alone, I just love it,
@@cookiesnugglez7318 I would also argue that if he could accomplish world peace from the head of the GDA, and keep it going by giving his suggestions to someone with authority then he really didn't need to kill Cecil or any of the other heroes. The only thing that would accomplish was giving him more power, which obviously is his endgame but it does kind of taint the whole "My actions were for the good of the world argument".
@@cookiesnugglez7318 what he did was literally equivalent to the tiananmian square protests, the government got somparanoid that the kids were gonna overthrow them or funded by the cia so they just massacred them before they could do anything
These comics are so raw and I love it. No being able to save the day all the time, no absolute control of over powered abilities, real life obstacles and inconveniences. It really shows what a hero and villain can be like if they were in our world.
This is one of the most bizarre and random storylines I've ever seen. You literally couldn't predict any of it. Truly an original and unique character.
Monster girl: usurps him, has him imprisioned, and sleeps with one of his captors Robot: let’s start over Robot: tries to rule the world and kills a bunch of villains Monster Girl: I can never forgive you
I think he really wanted to save people but as he got shitted on and shifted to the flaxian dimension.Then starts lose his humanity seeing how the flaxians act and then his wife cheats on him the one u saved from becoming a baby.then the flaxians attack him.He literally became a robot
@@jomckellan she didn't cheat him first and neither she was seduced, she betrayed him because Robot kept in concentration camps to all the royal family BY GENERATIONS.
The time he spent in the Flaxan Dimension really warped his mind set. He was already relatively disconnected from humanity living his life through his drones, but after spending centuries as a ruler in the Flaxan Dimension and coming back to see himself lose all that control over the world he had. Sad how he just killed Cecil like it was nothing, even after all they have been through. Robot started out as a brain in a jar, then got a proper body, only to end up as a brain in a jar again.
Robot being turned into a brain in a jar reminds me of the 2003 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles show where Shredder slowly took away Baxter Stockman’s body parts until he was just a brain in a jar
It's weird how I honestly believe that robot is the hero even with all the bad things he did he really did make the earth a better place to live in the end
I would argue that while he did do quite a lot of good, and I don't mean to downplay all the good he does, His dubious actions such as killing Cecil, Sampson, Kid Thor and Knockout were not for the good of the world but for his own good. Many characters justify what Robot did to Cecil by saying that he would be happy to die for this cause. However if that is the case he would be just as willing to enact Robot's proposed changes from the very position Robot uses to enact them. Killing him and the others was simply a way to eliminate the competition who would oppose his rule.
@@Oceanman90 To be fair the guy had severe trust issues when the person closest to him betrayed him in the Flax dimension. So yeah I would say his actions were for the good of the world but he was a broken man or a robot by the time of it, He believed he can't truly trust anyone with creating a better world other than himself without worrying someone would put a wedge in his plans so he eliminated people. His paranoia was through the roof by the end of the series that he was basically Cecil on crack.
@@NinjapowerMS ya monster girl betrayal only enforced his paranoia and removed what humanity he had left all that was left for him was the mission nothing else he even said it in the end that he was empty inside
I love it when a character's starting point is the same as where they end exclusively due to their own actions. Robot wanted to live outside of a tube, but because of how he changed after achieving that goal, he ultimately ends up back inside of a tube, unable to interact with or even see the outside world. Fun.
I love how Robot was a hero, hinted at being villainous, turns out he was doing something really weird but not necessarily villainous, becomes a great hero, then truly a villain lol
I think "poetic" would be the more appropriate term. It also seems like the character was always putting himself in "jars" of one kind or another. He had his suit and his moonbase that also served as enclosures that kept him safe.
He's kind of like Dr. Doom in that they're both tyrants who's actions tend to range from questionable to reprehensible in terms of morality, but the end result of those actions is a literal utopia nearly devoid of suffering for the people. It's a classic ethical dilemma. Do the ends justify the means?
@@CharlieBrown20XD6 nah dystopia is where people suffer silently under the tyranny and George Orwell big brother type society. A utopia, would be a technological advanced world where people are bored, because they were born in a time of no excitement
Really, I think Robot's character arc was great...except his downfall kind of felt unearned. After outsmarting *everyone* and taking over the world in such a way that even the heroes throw up their hands and say "we may not like it, but he's basically won and fighting him isn't going to make things better", he makes what can only be characterized as a *disastrously* poor call by kidnapping the viltrumite children, which immediately gives Mark a justification to go after him, turns every viltrumite on the planet against him (what exactly did he think they were going to do once the immediate threat was neutralized?) and starts a fight he was completely unprepared for and incapable of winning, for no real perceivable benefit. It's really just a disastrously bad call on a tactical level, when it would have been much more satisfying to see him lose because of a failure on an emotional level (since he's already proven to have that as a blindspot - see being successfully betrayed and imprisoned by Monster Girl.)
The life of Robot is kinda poetic. He was the most human when he was just Robot and stucked in a jar. When he gained a human body, he slowly started becoming less human and more like a robot.
Rudolph was complex and ruthless true, but he was right in his actions. He saw the bigger picture more than most others. He got shit done on Earth that Mark could never do. He's a great character in the series. He definitely deserves more credit and should have had a better fate than he did.
@@starsiegeplayer He lost his gf, he executed a plan that ensured the benefit and safety of Earth that actually worked (better than anything Mark or the other heroes did in the long run) and got shafted for it and was driven to a point where he had no choice but to fight. Im not saying what he did was just but we not gon act like he didnt have his reasons for doing things. He was a good guy beforehand
Personally I think if he hadn't been betrayed by Monster Girl in the Flaxon Ruling arc, maybe all the heroes he killed would still be alive. If he was able to trust someone or people with what he wanted to do to save the world, like Mark who wanted to do something similar with Dinosaur, there could have been a more peaceful resolution. All he needed was someone to keep him grounded to his humanity.
@@steelheart538 Precisely. He already had it hard enough being the brains to the teams he led trying to ensure safety and peace for the world. Had Monster Girl and/or Mark kept by him to keep him grounded he would've kept sane.
this is the most "bruh" story, cause he was a deform intellectual teen to a normal intellecrual human, and rule 2 planets in a lifetime and then became a timeless preserve brain jar
Deep down I think robot wanted what was best for his friends and his world, he may have had a few, "screws loose" but in the end, all he wanted was for earth to thrive
It feels more to me like he wants to thrive on a thriving planet. He choses to take over the world by killing his friends rather than give his plans to Cecil who could easily enact them. If he wanted what was best for his friends they wouldn't be dead so he could have more power.
From a certain view point, he still is. It just that he would take whatever method he deemed right in his goal to make earth safe and better. Even if that meant becoming a tyrant and betraying the heroes.
In Invincible, you slowly start seeing that average superhero ideals don't work in the long run. Even Mark, started to question if just beating villains actually does a change in the long run.
@@victorsardaneta8727 At least he used Talk no Jutsu and it actually worked on some villains. Also I find it funny that he kills villains only when need be. Batman should learn from him.
Living for a thousand years changes you. He's been in leadership position for most of this time aging at a very slow pace. This, compounded with being a genius, led him to be convinced that he could make the world a better place. Have he not had those 1000 years, he might have remained a superhero.
Both Spawn and Invincible are part of the Image comics universe. There are canonical crossovers all the time in Invincible lol. Savage Dragon, Tech Jacket, Firebreather etc pop up from time to time.
It's explained that Monster Girl was capable of fathering Monax because her monster form is biologically male, and she shifted into it when she had her affair with Monax's mother.
I just started watching the series. Everything that was discussed has given me a better understanding of the characters in the show and in the comic. I look forward to seeing more videos like this one with the same in depth detail. Thank you.
To answer those of you wondering 1. How did Amanda (Monster girl) have a child with a Female Flaxan? 2. What happened between Amanda and Robot after his brain was put in the jar? 1A. The curse Turns her into a male monster (With male parts) since the Flaxan was Female. They were able to have a kid with the Flaxan giving birth They even show the Flaxan riding Monster Girl O.o 2A. After a while with robot in the jar. He tells Amanda he misses her and is very lonely. Amanda coldly tell Robot that he asked for it and deserves it. Shes done with him. (He did betray her twice and even tried to kill her) although robot still loved Amanda it was not Mutual
Once again, I see that this comics is so well thought with all of the arcs and characters well interlinked with one another. Trully it’s amazing. Though, it’s only thanks to this channel that we can all enjoy the complexity of these characters and all the stories. Thank you again, Channel Master.
Also take into account the show takes a much more straight forward approach at the timeline. Everything happens, but just not exactly how it does in the comics.
I think some of these changes are for the better. Sometimes stories benefit from cutting down on the amount of content. You don't want to try to cram too much in and just end up with this giant plot that people lose interest in trying to follow.
What do you mean, Monax conception is never explained ? Right in the same panel we are shown Monster Girl transforms to her alt form which is male, and does the deed with her lover. I mean Monax calls her father throughout the arc when they come back. We've had way too much cross breeding and interspecies fucking in one series as it is.
Robot is the literal incarnation of “You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain”. Harvey Dent experienced a tragic event that left him scarred and twisted. Robot just lived. Way Too Long
Funny how he dedicated his life to getting out of a tube, only to end up as a brain in a tube once more. The thing is, I feel it was pretty stupid to remove him from rule, but I also know he was undoubtedly driven mad by it and was under constant stress.
I love this character, and his ancient saga with Monster Girl, and I just realized something silly... Invincible is Superman Robot is *R*ex Luthor. God its so obvious.
your videos are actually fantastic... Ive pretty much spoilt it for myself.... but it's presented so well I feel like I've gotten to know the characters and stories to such a degree I wanna read them anyway haha!
There's a fun fact that noone notice about robot, when he betray all his Friends, he only killed the ones who flirt with monster girl when they return to earth, bulletprouf was the only exception because he allies with robot before the genocide of heroes. I can only think that the when he found monster girl cheat him he becomes more sadict and evil.
@@Lukozzz234 I have checked as best as I could. Maybe you were referencing Gaurdians of the Globe or one of the other spinoff comics? But I also feel like if this is true, it also diminishes Rudy's character arc and flattens him out. Just my opinion.
After watching the latest episodes I realize more and more that they’re actually doing their own pace in the show than the comic books because robot still hasn’t gotten fired and we still haven’t seen immortal since the 1st, I’ve never read the comic book but now I’m interested
It's explained in another comic series Kirkman wrote called "Brit" that the Alien Invasion at 4:07 was the result of the French government teaming up with an alien race to take over the world and failed miserably due to Brit's efforts thwarting their leader behind the scenes. (Brit is another Robert Kirkman creation that also deserves his own video in the future once he's introduced on the show.)
Out of this entire story, the thing that got me the most is that monster girl cheated on him after all that time. It is sad when heroes live long enough to become villains.
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13:40 it is explained by her shadow, when monster girl transforms her transformation is male, as you can see by that shadow she transformed when they smashed
Id argue Thragg was still the main antagonist, Rex while what he did was awful didn't really care about Mark once he left Earth. Thragg on the other hand was still determined to kill everyone and rule the universe.
I absolutely wish monster girl and rudy hadn't been trapped the way they were,they wouldve had such a future and rudy was such a good guy before he was corrupted by centuries of hardship and conflict
Robot: literally creates a cure for monster girls anti-aging side effect, userps planet, makes her queen. Monster girl: -Has an affair with an alien -backstabs him in a revolt Monster girl belongs to the streets.
And it's never said that monster girl learns the xenos language as well. Meaning that she ruled a planet that spoke a language incomprehensible to her for however long
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Robot is the goat
Early gang
@@thunderguy6164 eventually
Cover Immortal next
The life of Robot could be summarized as:
A human turned into a machine, regaining his human body, but eventually losing his humanity.
It's the opposite of Ultron, a machine that became human, went back to being a machine but more man than before
Then became a BRAIN IN A JAR
@@TupocalypseShakur lemme fix that
Its Movie Ultron*
The comic one was always a genocidal manic.
@@l0sts0ul89 in Rage of Ultron, Ultron has a conversation with Hank Pym where he is extremely emotional. He then goes on a long ass rant on why everyone must die all of it linking to Hank's old way of thinking. He is a genocidal maniac, but he is one with emotion. Also he was an actual human woman once
@@TupocalypseShakur
Oh I know he fused with Tony Stark for one reason , than he fused with his Dad and went on another genocide iirc
From a nice brain in a jar, to a nice person, to a bad person to a nice brain in jar admitting that he had become evil. Such a good character
I'm a dude playing another dude disguised as another dude.
@@l0sts0ul89 is that a reference?
@@raylongoria3565 tropic thunder
@@raylongoria3565 zoomer
And people say he is a "good person" and human, He's already was creepy, i don't think his human after plan to be a child to be close friend for monster girl? *COINCIDENCE?* *I THINK NOT!*
His story went full circle. Went from a guy in a jar basically straight back to being a brain in a jar. Such good planning and story.
For me, actually, the more I read the story the more I thought how bad it was. Specifically, it baffled me how the comic pretended that the species and races who lived by the mantra of "might is right" or who practiced slavery somehow were the ones with the best technological advancements. Even if they're aliens, they obviously behave not too different from humans and if we have learned anything from our own history is that promoting slavery, racism and/or never-ending wars doesn't create grounds for technological progress, quite the opposite actually. Second thing that's incredibly stupid is how the supposedly smartest characters approach moral dilemmas as if they were kindergartners. Are you telling me that "genius" Robot is incapable of realizing that just because you're a descendant of the Zaxal royal family you won't necessarily become an slaver? How stupid and racist you have to be to arrive to that conclusion? Furthermore, the idiot was in favor of shutting their dimension from others because of some irrational fear that he, what? Thought they would conquer other dimensions as they had done in the past?! Dude, you ended that threat, you can now open the dimensions and trade with other worlds, that would've completely solved the threat of any future Flaxan invasion if you have made them trade partners with Earthlings... JEESUS, how is Robot so stupid?!!
Last but not least, Dinosaurus. My God, it's like it was written by a 6 year old. You have a fictional world filled with demi Gods and beings capable of rewriting reality and you're talking about fossil fuels, solar panels and global warming?? I mean, come on, there is not a single being in the Planet able to generate enough energy to replace fossil fuels or to clean the air from the CO2/methane??? It's hard to take the rest of the story seriously when I read shit like that, honestly.
@@kazuoua The character is flawed thats why we like it lol
@@austinpowers3659 hard to buy that excuse when every single character in the story behave and think in the same way as Robot even though they're considered "smart". Oliver, Dinosaurus, Robot and others I don't remember, they're all "geniuses" who arrive to the same moral conclusions, that utilitarian morality is the most logical and right thing to follow which then leads then to considering commiting genocides. The story teaches them that their conclusion is "wrong" because, well, "killing is bad" and "oh my god, if you kill someone others will feel really bad about losing a loved one"... and that's the moral epiphany. It really is stupid and simple-minded, I wish there had been better characters in the story.
@@kazuoua Chile, I thought I was the only one seeing this. It's why I hope the series breaks from the comics.
@@kazuoua Maybe he knows the flaxans etter tha you do and is aware that they are dmaned to the genetic level. it is only racism if it is irrational. I agree on the interdimensional trading part though (although maybe shit is more dangerous that we thought).
PD: Regarding the might makes right slaver mentality halting progress, I would say that ot could just apply to a subset of minds from certain species, humans among them. Maybe they get creative boners from some form of nom human sadism or just sheer violence.
Rudolph got turned into a brain and lowkey said: "Yeah things kinda got outta hand there, I asked for it"
Shitty cause Violent.
That's because he has no claws.
He'd try to take over everything again if he could sucker them into building him an army.
Which is dumb because Monster girl betrayed him twice. She's at fault here too.
At least he willingly admits to going too far.
@@ThatGuy-en2nn Not really. She only tried to keep him from murdering /enslaving innocent people.
For all both knew, they weren't really compatible for one another.
But Rudolph saw something he wanted (Amanda) and made plans to get it.
Rudolph made his own bed. She never told him to act like some dictator.
He should have listened to the "Love of his Life", when she tried to stand against him.
But no, he was manipulative, selfish, deceptive from day one. It was always about what HE wanted.
There is no way that she could be blamed for HIS terrible decisions.
Yes, she cheated on him, because she would have gone for other men, if Rudolph hadn't cockblocked her , whenever she dared to show interest in someone.
Then he goes on to tell her how "he was going out of his way to help her", which is bull.
He was GROOMING her.
And as I said, he refused to let her go back home, because he wanted her by his side.
The more I think about it, the creepier he becomes.
I wonder why people find themselves relating to this manipulative, abusive stalker.
At least it explains how Reylo was such a popular ship.
Wow robot was such a good sport after Mark ripped his brain out stuffed it in a jar and forced him to become an idea database. He was just like “yeah that’s fair” and accepted it with dignity
I feel like he's probably gotten used to it since he was turned into a robot in the first place
I mean, you no longer have to maintain a body, and the internet is an interesting place with newer things getting added to it by the minute
@@serotonin.scavenger robot has no access to anything besides information he already have.
Not that different from his beginnings
@@apdroidgeek1737 For now. Like those things ever work out. He get out.
The story of a funny looking robot who's controlled by a smart af Discord moderator-looking guy that is SimpingAnUnderage-looking girl who can turn into an Hulk-like monster
Now this is a top tier comment
Discord moderator loooooooooool 😭
Thid needs more likes
Frick off XD
Discord mod uses internet to hit on a 14 year old girl
legit just the old phrase
“You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”
The pessimist's mantra
"You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a brain in a jar."
"You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain, and become a good guy again, but as a brain in a jar."
"you either die a hero, or live long enough to keep using this god forsaken overused quote"
@@vernonhampton5863 Cynicism is the Trait of a Survivor - Some Hot Witch.
Robot ruled an alien planet for 1,000 years. That's utterly incomprehensible. Of course it'd completely changed someone.
Yup
You mean like with the rest of the things they're subtly changing?
Show is garbage. Comics were great.
@@LordVulcan93 tbh after reading the comic I can see why they would try to short hand a lot of things to make what they can fit in 1 season
@@DrippleDragon I'm not talking about what they've cut out. I'm specifically talking about the race and sex swapping from white male and female characters only. They're going to do multiple seasons, so whatever they don't use now they can use at a later date, or use elements of in a different storyline.
@@LordVulcan93 I know this might be news to you but these kinds of changes are not necessarily made for PC reasons but to change the story so it gives something fresh for the readers to chew on. Also a second season is never a sure thing. So they have to condense story arcs into more bite size pieces. and no they cant just use things for a later date. Lets say they get 10 seasons of 8-12 episodes thats not enough to cover all the story arcs. they will be lucky to hit 5 seasons.
Imagine if Robot had taken Mark or Omni-man’s DNA instead of Rex’s. He’d be unstoppable.
Would need a really strong needle 🪡
Their skin is impenetrable, so idk how he would’ve done that
@@hamsandwich2655 well Mark has been beaten up multiple times with blood splashing aotp. So he could just take blood from those battles
This is assuming viltrumite blood would react the same way to the cloning process as human blood would. Cause remember when Cecil and the GDA tried to experiment on Mark’s blood, it resisted pretty much everything.
@@ceecee7465 that is true
"W-What I thought you were proud to be a robot"
Rudolph: "THAT'S BECAUSE I HAD TO F*CKING BE ONE"
Rick and morty reference nice
"Rick and Morty", never fails
Can't wait for season 7 of Rick and Morty
Started in a cage questioning his humanity, ended in a cage to preserve what humanity he had.
@@loturzelrestaurant Why do you care so much about it though?
@@blinded6502 Because they do.
@@loturzelrestaurant why?
@@komododragon7619 yeah. You would care too if you shared their views. Not agreeing with them, doesn't give you the right to censor them.
@@InstiGator805 ....Sharing their views doesnt mean I have the right to shut down views contrary to that view. If someone cares about something and mentions it, you discuss it with them. You don't say, You shouldn't care about it, and enforce a way of thinking upon them.
If you don't like his view, then say it. Don't beat around the bush.
I’ll never not feel sorry for robot. He may have lost his way, but he still wanted to do good things, and in the process lost everything he worked so hard for. His friends, Amanda, even his body got taken from him
this mans story is he was a brain in a jar, lived threw racism. got a body, lost his friends. got a girlfriend, his girlfriend cheated on him. got to rule the world, is now a brain in a jar ruled by the world. like bruh he has lived far longer then most people and ended up losing more then he gained
I still don't get it to be honest. Sure he did some bad things, but it was mostly on personal level and really did not have real negative impact on the people. Mark ranted on about how Rex is bad because he wants control and shits, yet Mark accepts to be am Emperor, his dad was an Emperor. Societies need leaders, there has to be some level of control, and Rex technically did it best. The only reason, the real reason they opposed his rule was simply because well...he killed some people. Omni Man wiped the entire Guardians of the Globe and killed countless citizens, hell even geocoded against one planet and blew up his home empire and somehow everyone's ok with him being the Emperor afterwards.
Rex ended up becoming evil because people like Mark choose to ignore the goods and focus on the bad when it satisfy their lust for revenge. While at the same time, he ignores the bad and focus on the good of his friends and families (Which by the way, Rex was once also his friend).
And that son of Monster Girl? He acts like his people and family's are some innocent peace-loving dudes who did not try to invade Earth multiple times over and over and over and over after being told to stop being dicks at least twice. Maybe its not Rex's problem, maybe its his people's problem? Even after reformation, even after Rex brings the planet into prosperity, one overthrow and then they start go back trying to invade another dimension again, like jesus.
Honestly, I think Rex's biggest mistake was betraying Mark before he at least tries to explain his plans of what an ideal utopia has to be. And his worst move was at the end where he makes enemies out of the Vultrumites. It would not matter if Mark has more power, because Earth loved Rex. If Mark tries to overthrow Rex, what's he gonna say to the people of Earth?
"Guys, the dude who gives you Utopia, ends all slavery, deals with all criminals, brings peace and all the happiness actually kills some of my friends. So he has to be removed, please go back to the old ways and pretend this Utopia no longer exist. Oh, and there're aliens secretly breeding on your planet, just ignore them!"
@@peerawat9x wait didn't he slaughter most of his friends and earth's heroes?
@@giuseppepiuma1965 Some yes. But so did Omni Man. Yet most seems to get Omni-Man a pass despite him not doing anything productive in return. Rex at least manage to get things done, things that Cecil would have done anyway, which is acknowledged by those who eventually accepted Rex's positions, the things Robot have done are the things Cecil would have done if he had the options. Killing and Betrayal is nothing new, it happens on regular basis.
@@peerawat9x without Omni-Man the Viltrumite War could've be lost leaving earth in diret danger or indirect danger when Thragg came over the first time if Nolan wasn't there to rule over the Viltrumites and change their way. Not saying he deserved more forgiveness, just that it's plain false he didn't do anything useful for the planet.
Second you have to consider the different birth circumstances: Nolan lived most of his life raised and brainwashed by an alien dictatorship, while Rex was born and grew on earth even on very particular circumstances, exposed since earth to human values.
Regarding Cecil, he was one of a kind and betrayed allies on the daily basis but I don't remember him directly killing his allies in a preventing way. Even when fighting Mark, he tried to stop him rather than kill him. So I'd say it's a little different even if the parallels are there
In the end from the logical point of view Rex was way better than Nolan in saving the lives of his people and helping them in the grand scheme of things but on the human (which is pretty relevant in Invincible's story) side Nolan turned into a hero choosing peace over war for his people, even the one who opposed him (which yeah came and bit him in the ass later on) and never directly forced them to do anything under his rule, while in the end Rex directly exterminated not some but most of the heroes of earth and his friends and attempted to do the same to his lover. From the human point of view Rex went from being a hero to a villain while Nolan the opposite
It is actually explained how Monster Girl is the father of Monax. Her monster form is male.
So you're saying that Hulk did indeed smash? Haha
Yep.
… weird
That makes no sense but ok
@@moth8775 how does it not make sense? Monster Girl transformed into her monster form. That form is male. And while male Monster Girl banged the alien chick and got her pregnant. Pretty straightforward really
Monster Girl's monster form is male, that's how she "fathers" a child.
Confusion
Exactly I was thinking she is male when she turns in to a monster so basically the monster is father but not monster girl or wutever her name is
@@happytravelingfoodielatina7291 I think her name is Amanda
@@onyxclemons7795 Robert Kirkman is a funny mutha
@@benmatthew3176 same here
A floating, malformed human in a tube to a clone copy of another teammate with his intellect to a brain in a jar all while turning from a superhero to a super tyrant to an eternal prisoner. Man, his life is a rollercoaster of transformations.
and dont forget he watched his friends die and his wife cheated on him
@@leoneyamada5408
his wife broke up with him before she had her relationship
that's not cheating
she helped overthrow him for being a tyrant
@@fomalhauto this was a year ago.... nobody fucking cares anymore
He is so human lol, having contradictions yet he has a very distinct goal or role as a character.
Thats being a good guy who just obsesses over ruling things.
i mean he is human
@@333dae i mean most of the human characters we got from fantasies dont act any human at all.
Its kinda rare to see a character with some logical flaws and interesting contradictions between what they want and the consequences of it.
Realistic yet still in a fantasy. Like that, if all i said makes sense
Yeah, I actually really like how after ruling for a LONG ASS time in a planet of his own(their own, with Monster Girl), he grew dissatisfied with Earth and takes charge because he knows he's the only one really capable of ruling such a chaotic place. I'm so glad that Earth thrives under Robot's rule, it logically should be since he's super smart and has a lot of experience already, but most of the time in fiction whenever something like this happens the new ruler can't control their new domain very well, or smth goes wrong etc. And in the end he's not bitter with his new role. He gets to give his opinions regarding Earth, but someone who has the humanity that Robot lost throughout the years gets to be in charge. Props to beating Mark 1 on 1 too by exploiting his weakness
@@largocharles8729 Pea on Azqlpooaaaaaa The ggg
@Jonathan Spier i mean... Yeah kinda like that
So Monster girl is essentially immortal. Live her best life get old, use powers gets young again. Rinse and repeat forever young
I never really considered that, but maybe. Also she already live ober 1030 years... so she’s super oldddddd
@@KeyIssues should she be with Abraham Lincoln the immortal then lol
She’s not conventionally immortal as she can still die to trauma/injury.
@@chuckingreaper8654 Paradoxical as it may seem but immortal does not mean cannot die. Yes she can be killed, die from disease etc but if she stays healthy she can essentially live forever.
@@KeyIssues shes dead now
You forgot the little bit of the final issue. Where Immortal and Monster girl go to Rex's brain. Then when she's about to leave, Rex asks her to stay because he feels lonely, but MG shuts him down since he brought that situation to him and leaves. And he just accepts it
This is an extremely well-written comic
Agreed. Love Robert Kirkmans Story telling style! He is very very talented and criminally underrated as a Comic book Author, I wish him the best in his Career as an Author and Executive Producer of the Franchise!
way too underrated
@@NastheVictorious I dont think he is underrated almost everything he has worked on turns out to be good.
Not underrated in the comics world, invincible is in the top five comic book runs of lall time for most comic readers.
@@jauzaafaishalahmadpadmadis3846 underrated? Not even
The fact that Robot was so smart but couldn't build Monster Girl a real-time language translator blows my mind..
I think that he didn't want her to communicate with the flaxans, so that only he could be in control
@@bendergamer6774 I genuinely don't understand why she never learned Flaxan. She lived there for literally a thousand years. On the point of Robot probably not wanting her to, you have to realize that they ruled Flaxan TOGETHER. Robot was still good, then. He even makes a point, saying something to the extent of "You would blend in more if you would learn the Flaxan tongue."
@@tabbycrumch3062 that just shows she did not really care for the greater picture. Just about the people she knows on personal level. That lead her behaviour to be with little hindsight not everyone can accept or see reason in temporary suffering for future.She probaly also never really had intrest in Ruling and was a ruler just in name only.
In the comics there's a part where they talk about this and how she couldn't learn. The language is INSANELY complex. It took Robot (an absolute genius) a decade to learn the language and monster girl says it has sounds she doesn't even know how to make. It's not that she didn't try to learn, it's impossible for a non-genius.
@@tabbycrumch3062 yeah and then they explain exactly why she can't learn it lol
You're telling me Robot and Monster Girl were together for almost 1000 years and didn't have a child?
Lmaooooo
I remember the comics saying that robot was infertile or something i keep forgeting, something about the cloning progress? This was like 9 years ago so i cant remember it clearer, but i do remember something about them unable to have a child mentioned
His pull out game is godly
@@miguelberetta7887 If only the same was to be said for Thragg we would have a much faster ending.
@@miguelberetta7887 😂😂😂
Wow! I just realized the Mauler Twins arguing about who the clone is isn’t just a running joke-it’s actually telling us how this cloning process works!
So Rudy gets a new body in the show, we’ll know exactly why and how it works.
Edit: CALLED IT!!!!
@Brian Babin I'm not sure what you think "head canon" means, especially since you couldn't be bothered to spell it properly. Therefore, I will explain why this is not, in fact, head canon:
It's a simple observation based on the Mauler Twins fighting over who is the clone, since they can only remember the same stuff as the original. But then it turns out that both are the clone, but they do have the original's memories.
So even though the original Rudy will die, the new one will think he's the original. And now we know that from how the Mauler twins have been depicted.
I have imposed literally nothing from outside the show itself, which is what head canon ACTUALLY is.
@Brian Babin huh? x100
@Keegan Dilley but like shouldn't they know considering the one who got cloned would've layed down in the left (or right) bed and woken up in the opposite one? kinda easy to tell with some deductive reasoning
@@benjamin32827 They probably stop thinkin about it after a while but in case with the Levy incident it was pretty clear who was the original clone and it just wouldnt go over. Mauler said it himself he cant work if he knows who the original clone is.
@@giorgosnikolaidis374 it's gotten to a point where it doesn't even matter anymore, they've grown so much into different personalities despite being the same individual for all intents and purposes that finding out who is the original wouldn't matter. So it works out regardless.
Robot: I know what it's like to have everyone judge you by appearance.
Monster Girl: How would you know? You're a robot.
*Y--You just proved his point...*
Robot:...........................
Seriously?
Robot Be Like: 🤦🏿♂️ really?!
💀💀💀💀😭
She's not very smart. 700 years and she couldn't learn a new language.
@@JohnL-m2l facts like bruh she was part of the reason robot broke in the first place he basically did everything himself
Is no one gonna talk about how sick his design got, like the black armor was just the dopest looking, let alone the fact that it just displayed a sort of smug supiority through mask design alone, I just love it,
Robot/Rex is quite a logical person. Hos rule wouldn't be bad, he just jumped the gun when he really didn't need to.
Honestly his only major mistake was starting the robot wars because he was paranoid, for the most part he did pretty well
@@cookiesnugglez7318 if i have all of these super strong aliens who was raise only to kill living around the neighborhood i would be paranoid too
@@cookiesnugglez7318 I would also argue that if he could accomplish world peace from the head of the GDA, and keep it going by giving his suggestions to someone with authority then he really didn't need to kill Cecil or any of the other heroes. The only thing that would accomplish was giving him more power, which obviously is his endgame but it does kind of taint the whole "My actions were for the good of the world argument".
@@cookiesnugglez7318 what he did was literally equivalent to the tiananmian square protests, the government got somparanoid that the kids were gonna overthrow them or funded by the cia so they just massacred them before they could do anything
@@cookiesnugglez7318 I feel like he would have continued to do things like the robot wars if he won them, just due to the paranoia.
These comics are so raw and I love it. No being able to save the day all the time, no absolute control of over powered abilities, real life obstacles and inconveniences. It really shows what a hero and villain can be like if they were in our world.
They really be catching L's most of the time to be honest
This is one of the most bizarre and random storylines I've ever seen. You literally couldn't predict any of it. Truly an original and unique character.
Monster girls multiple betrayal is what changed robot
No arguing there
Basically yes
Monster girl: usurps him, has him imprisioned, and sleeps with one of his captors
Robot: let’s start over
Robot: tries to rule the world and kills a bunch of villains
Monster Girl: I can never forgive you
@@cleanharry3770 faxs
@@cleanharry3770 women moment smh.....
I think he really wanted to save people but as he got shitted on and shifted to the flaxian dimension.Then starts lose his humanity seeing how the flaxians act and then his wife cheats on him the one u saved from becoming a baby.then the flaxians attack him.He literally became a robot
I guess that seeing how the Flaxians always screwed up, messed him up.
Crazy how Monster Girl was seduced into betraying Robot, undoing centuries of plans and peace.
@@jomckellan she didn't cheat him first and neither she was seduced, she betrayed him because Robot kept in concentration camps to all the royal family BY GENERATIONS.
@@mariano98ify plus they were basically separated for decades at that point
@@mr.protagonist5639 lol there always and excuses for a female and tell how can robot go decades and didn't cheat
The time he spent in the Flaxan Dimension really warped his mind set.
He was already relatively disconnected from humanity living his life through his drones, but after spending centuries as a ruler in the Flaxan Dimension and coming back to see himself lose all that control over the world he had.
Sad how he just killed Cecil like it was nothing, even after all they have been through. Robot started out as a brain in a jar, then got a proper body, only to end up as a brain in a jar again.
This series is going to need many seasons to cover this content. This is an amazing story.
The creator even said it'll maybe go on for 8 seasons. The ride is gonna be wild.
@@havensohn3821 really hope so
We eating GOOD today
Facts
Hell yeah
Ong bruh
We aren’t eating tho just watching a video
@@damien1117 I am and also watching the video.
Robot being turned into a brain in a jar reminds me of the 2003 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles show where Shredder slowly took away Baxter Stockman’s body parts until he was just a brain in a jar
well, I'm just glad that robot didn't have an ending as a villain.
He ends up alone tho😔
Feels kinda bad tho
Robot's alternate in another dimension got a clone of Mark's body. I wonder how that Rudy fared.
@@jomckellan
That universe eve had that eve killed off. But the dude has an entire harem of eves from other universe so...
@@golden1_1dragon12 That other Mark got his head blown up too.
It's weird how I honestly believe that robot is the hero even with all the bad things he did he really did make the earth a better place to live in the end
I would argue that while he did do quite a lot of good, and I don't mean to downplay all the good he does, His dubious actions such as killing Cecil, Sampson, Kid Thor and Knockout were not for the good of the world but for his own good. Many characters justify what Robot did to Cecil by saying that he would be happy to die for this cause. However if that is the case he would be just as willing to enact Robot's proposed changes from the very position Robot uses to enact them. Killing him and the others was simply a way to eliminate the competition who would oppose his rule.
@@Oceanman90 To be fair the guy had severe trust issues when the person closest to him betrayed him in the Flax dimension. So yeah I would say his actions were for the good of the world but he was a broken man or a robot by the time of it, He believed he can't truly trust anyone with creating a better world other than himself without worrying someone would put a wedge in his plans so he eliminated people. His paranoia was through the roof by the end of the series that he was basically Cecil on crack.
@@NinjapowerMS ya monster girl betrayal only enforced his paranoia and removed what humanity he had left all that was left for him was the mission nothing else he even said it in the end that he was empty inside
@@NinjapowerMS Cecil Stedman who ate 12 packs of Vitamin gummies, 26 pill bottles and 34 Vats of Black Coffee
@@samsunguser3148 But not the special GOO to preserve his delicate skin.
I love it when a character's starting point is the same as where they end exclusively due to their own actions.
Robot wanted to live outside of a tube, but because of how he changed after achieving that goal, he ultimately ends up back inside of a tube, unable to interact with or even see the outside world. Fun.
I’m a little sad that robot turned out to be a villain and ended up losing his body again
im sad that allen and mark aren't best friends no more
I know right and he was my favorite character too
Have you seen Omni man go from good to bad? Like bipolar disease. Good then bad then good again then bad... then good.
@@stevendalloesingh1214 he's diabolical basically
Me too
So what’s your power?
Robot: moral ambiguity
I love how Robot was a hero, hinted at being villainous, turns out he was doing something really weird but not necessarily villainous, becomes a great hero, then truly a villain lol
Damn bro... Robot began his life in a jar and now he ended up back in a jar. Ironic.
Kind of sad tho
Dude just wanted to be a jar-dude
I think "poetic" would be the more appropriate term. It also seems like the character was always putting himself in "jars" of one kind or another. He had his suit and his moonbase that also served as enclosures that kept him safe.
Poetic.
What's worst just his brain
He's kind of like Dr. Doom in that they're both tyrants who's actions tend to range from questionable to reprehensible in terms of morality, but the end result of those actions is a literal utopia nearly devoid of suffering for the people. It's a classic ethical dilemma. Do the ends justify the means?
Thing about utopias is people still suffer. They're just suffering silently
@@CharlieBrown20XD6 That sounds more like a dystopia
@@mindassassin nah dystopia are dirty looking and at least honest about not giving a shit about you. Think BLADE RUNNER
I poo poo farded for the good of humanity
@@CharlieBrown20XD6 nah dystopia is where people suffer silently under the tyranny and George Orwell big brother type society.
A utopia, would be a technological advanced world where people are bored, because they were born in a time of no excitement
Really, I think Robot's character arc was great...except his downfall kind of felt unearned. After outsmarting *everyone* and taking over the world in such a way that even the heroes throw up their hands and say "we may not like it, but he's basically won and fighting him isn't going to make things better", he makes what can only be characterized as a *disastrously* poor call by kidnapping the viltrumite children, which immediately gives Mark a justification to go after him, turns every viltrumite on the planet against him (what exactly did he think they were going to do once the immediate threat was neutralized?) and starts a fight he was completely unprepared for and incapable of winning, for no real perceivable benefit. It's really just a disastrously bad call on a tactical level, when it would have been much more satisfying to see him lose because of a failure on an emotional level (since he's already proven to have that as a blindspot - see being successfully betrayed and imprisoned by Monster Girl.)
Eh I felt the legendary beef mark had for robot from his perspective more. It was a war for justice.
Well, I guess he does that as a pattern, he flukes out right at the end of his grand plans because of pressure.
“No matter how hard you try you’ll always end up the same”
Thank you Robert
The life of Robot is kinda poetic. He was the most human when he was just Robot and stucked in a jar. When he gained a human body, he slowly started becoming less human and more like a robot.
Rudolph was complex and ruthless true, but he was right in his actions. He saw the bigger picture more than most others. He got shit done on Earth that Mark could never do. He's a great character in the series. He definitely deserves more credit and should have had a better fate than he did.
He was a cruel monster. There was no need to tear off Eve's leg.
@@starsiegeplayer He lost his gf, he executed a plan that ensured the benefit and safety of Earth that actually worked (better than anything Mark or the other heroes did in the long run) and got shafted for it and was driven to a point where he had no choice but to fight. Im not saying what he did was just but we not gon act like he didnt have his reasons for doing things. He was a good guy beforehand
Personally I think if he hadn't been betrayed by Monster Girl in the Flaxon Ruling arc, maybe all the heroes he killed would still be alive. If he was able to trust someone or people with what he wanted to do to save the world, like Mark who wanted to do something similar with Dinosaur, there could have been a more peaceful resolution. All he needed was someone to keep him grounded to his humanity.
Agreed, that really screwed him up.
@@steelheart538 Precisely. He already had it hard enough being the brains to the teams he led trying to ensure safety and peace for the world. Had Monster Girl and/or Mark kept by him to keep him grounded he would've kept sane.
Damn this comic gets like super dark
Yep they have many twist
Not surprised considering the first animated episode
No shit lmao, i dont get why people think this is like their kiddy marvel shows
the comics are amazing but it's* honestly not that dark.
OR im just very used to absolutely unholy shit in real life and on the internet.
Robot: I know what it’s like for everyone to judge you by appearance.
Monster Girl: No, you don’t.
*Robot will remember this*
Telltale Games reference?
@@samuelrodriguez9801 Yep
man monster girl sucks, why would you cheat on him he didn't even become evil
That scene hurt me on the show lol
@@sick4127 Big oof
this is the most "bruh" story, cause he was a deform intellectual teen to a normal intellecrual human, and rule 2 planets in a lifetime and then became a timeless preserve brain jar
My guy should be employed by Amazon to do character vids on prime
No. Dude can't even speak words without fumbling.
It’s amazing how close the show and the comics look
this guy is the embodiment of you can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.
Deep down I think robot wanted what was best for his friends and his world, he may have had a few, "screws loose" but in the end, all he wanted was for earth to thrive
he doesnt use screws, his fastenings are all magnetic interlocks 😏
It feels more to me like he wants to thrive on a thriving planet. He choses to take over the world by killing his friends rather than give his plans to Cecil who could easily enact them. If he wanted what was best for his friends they wouldn't be dead so he could have more power.
@@milaniafrzr YES, someone finally gets it
Never read the comic but damn, I thought he was always a good guy
From a certain view point, he still is. It just that he would take whatever method he deemed right in his goal to make earth safe and better. Even if that meant becoming a tyrant and betraying the heroes.
In Invincible, you slowly start seeing that average superhero ideals don't work in the long run. Even Mark, started to question if just beating villains actually does a change in the long run.
Agreed
@@victorsardaneta8727
At least he used Talk no Jutsu and it actually worked on some villains. Also I find it funny that he kills villains only when need be. Batman should learn from him.
That's what Lex Luthor believes himself to be
Living for a thousand years changes you. He's been in leadership position for most of this time aging at a very slow pace. This, compounded with being a genius, led him to be convinced that he could make the world a better place.
Have he not had those 1000 years, he might have remained a superhero.
You also have to include a monster girl cheating on him
So are we not gonna mention spawn randomly “spawning” in the comic? No? Ok
Yes, it's a Universe crossover to stop the alternate dimension Invincibles in Invincible Universe
Wow
When
@@diobrando4063 the Invincible War.
Both Spawn and Invincible are part of the Image comics universe. There are canonical crossovers all the time in Invincible lol. Savage Dragon, Tech Jacket, Firebreather etc pop up from time to time.
It's explained that Monster Girl was capable of fathering Monax because her monster form is biologically male, and she shifted into it when she had her affair with Monax's mother.
The way you pronounce Cecil's name really grinds my gears
I just started watching the series. Everything that was discussed has given me a better understanding of the characters in the show and in the comic. I look forward to seeing more videos like this one with the same in depth detail. Thank you.
Gosh. This series just goes on and on. Wow. Imagine if Amazon do the entire run....
That would be cool but I don’t think they’ll do that
@@cheezo8
Think it depends on how popular it becomes. Seeing how well things are going atm, I believe we can at the very least expect a second season
@@zettovii1367 no shit sherlock.
@@cheezo8 yeah its gonna need 50 seasons at least lmao
Kirkman is shooting for 7 seasons. We'll see if it get that far
To answer those of you wondering
1. How did Amanda (Monster girl) have a child with a Female Flaxan?
2. What happened between Amanda and Robot after his brain was put in the jar?
1A. The curse Turns her into a male monster (With male parts) since the Flaxan was Female. They were able to have a kid with the Flaxan giving birth
They even show the Flaxan riding Monster Girl O.o
2A. After a while with robot in the jar. He tells Amanda he misses her and is very lonely. Amanda coldly tell Robot that he asked for it and deserves it.
Shes done with him. (He did betray her twice and even tried to kill her) although robot still loved Amanda it was not Mutual
Once again, I see that this comics is so well thought with all of the arcs and characters well interlinked with one another. Trully it’s amazing. Though, it’s only thanks to this channel that we can all enjoy the complexity of these characters and all the stories. Thank you again, Channel Master.
Really sad how stuff ended between Robot and Monster Girl.
I wonder what the original Robot would feel about his clone ended up living in a tube again.
Also take into account the show takes a much more straight forward approach at the timeline. Everything happens, but just not exactly how it does in the comics.
I think some of these changes are for the better. Sometimes stories benefit from cutting down on the amount of content. You don't want to try to cram too much in and just end up with this giant plot that people lose interest in trying to follow.
What do you mean, Monax conception is never explained ?
Right in the same panel we are shown Monster Girl transforms to her alt form which is male, and does the deed with her lover.
I mean Monax calls her father throughout the arc when they come back.
We've had way too much cross breeding and interspecies fucking in one series as it is.
Hence the name, she for the skreets, she a real monster for that though...
Robot is the literal incarnation of “You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain”. Harvey Dent experienced a tragic event that left him scarred and twisted. Robot just lived.
Way
Too
Long
Funny how he dedicated his life to getting out of a tube, only to end up as a brain in a tube once more.
The thing is, I feel it was pretty stupid to remove him from rule, but I also know he was undoubtedly driven mad by it and was under constant stress.
The way he pronounces “Cecil” is sendin’ me
I love this character, and his ancient saga with Monster Girl, and I just realized something silly...
Invincible is Superman
Robot is *R*ex Luthor.
God its so obvious.
your videos are actually fantastic... Ive pretty much spoilt it for myself.... but it's presented so well I feel like I've gotten to know the characters and stories to such a degree I wanna read them anyway haha!
At 5:03 Key issues accidentally say Robot Girl instead of monster girl.😂
This comic and Animated series is sooooooo good. The characters have so much depth! very well written.
I just love his shit-eating grin, like he knows a super embarrassing thing you've done in your past
How do I watch more?!
There's a fun fact that noone notice about robot, when he betray all his Friends, he only killed the ones who flirt with monster girl when they return to earth, bulletprouf was the only exception because he allies with robot before the genocide of heroes.
I can only think that the when he found monster girl cheat him he becomes more sadict and evil.
I don't remember Kid Thor, Knockout or The Martian guy flirting with her.
@@user-nv9vn8fm1d I don't remember the number of the comic but should check and see
@@Lukozzz234 I have checked as best as I could. Maybe you were referencing Gaurdians of the Globe or one of the other spinoff comics? But I also feel like if this is true, it also diminishes Rudy's character arc and flattens him out. Just my opinion.
That romance, and his betrayal, were the best I’ve read.
My favorite character in the series
This is by far the most interesting character from this comic
i really hope they don't repeat this in the show. just because robot and monster girls story was so heartbreaking
Thank God I found someone in the comments who thinks the same way
I hope this to ...
Honestly, kinda made my own stomach drop lol
After watching the latest episodes I realize more and more that they’re actually doing their own pace in the show than the comic books because robot still hasn’t gotten fired and we still haven’t seen immortal since the 1st, I’ve never read the comic book but now I’m interested
Honestly having seen how he turns out in the comic. I don’t want robot to become a villain he was my favorite character in season 1.
It's explained in another comic series Kirkman wrote called "Brit" that the Alien Invasion at 4:07 was the result of the French government teaming up with an alien race to take over the world and failed miserably due to Brit's efforts thwarting their leader behind the scenes. (Brit is another Robert Kirkman creation that also deserves his own video in the future once he's introduced on the show.)
*Kirkman/Moore, thank you very much
Robot is honestly one of my favorite characters ever and favorite character in the entire comic
Drinking game: take a shot everytime he says team
Out of this entire story, the thing that got me the most is that monster girl cheated on him after all that time. It is sad when heroes live long enough to become villains.
That one scene where Robot is sitting with Cecil is hilarious to me
Love Robert Kirkman comics, they are always so well written. Such a nice twist from the typical hero comic series
Just heard of this series and that was the best character story I've ever heard
Started in a tube, ended in a tube
Nolan Grayson's video is about to hit 1 million view in just a week (I am speed)
it is now 999k
Congratulations 🎉👏👏👏🎉
Yeah man... we are really excited how it exploded. Thanks to everyone for the support on that one.
It’s now 1 million
@@Cyclownus I want this channel to grow fast
Because these guys r really doing hard work and this is the only channel which doesn't suck like cbr,screen rant and danco many more
@@RK-2411 pitch meeting saves screen rant
13:40 it is explained by her shadow, when monster girl transforms her transformation is male, as you can see by that shadow she transformed when they smashed
I now just realized that Robot is the secret true antagonist of the series.
Id argue Thragg was still the main antagonist, Rex while what he did was awful didn't really care about Mark once he left Earth. Thragg on the other hand was still determined to kill everyone and rule the universe.
I absolutely wish monster girl and rudy hadn't been trapped the way they were,they wouldve had such a future and rudy was such a good guy before he was corrupted by centuries of hardship and conflict
and multiple betrayal from his wife and lover....
He deserves his own comic with better ending
I mean didnt he basically won. What could be better?
@@rjofusetsudzin8011 I thought the full circle was wonderful, not sure what would have been better for him?
@@glyndwrjohn6383
A life where his friendships aren't ruined with him also going back to just being a brain in a jar?
@@zettovii1367 oh, you people aren't thinking of storytelling, just wanting a happy ending for all. Fair enough.
@Brian Babin he kinda deserved it
Robot: literally creates a cure for monster girls anti-aging side effect, userps planet, makes her queen.
Monster girl:
-Has an affair with an alien
-backstabs him in a revolt
Monster girl belongs to the streets.
I know I hate her soo much for that she is the reason all this happened.
And it's never said that monster girl learns the xenos language as well. Meaning that she ruled a planet that spoke a language incomprehensible to her for however long
That’s why you never treat your girl like a queen lol. Worst mistake a man can make and this is coming from a dude who’s gay lol.
@@yeeyee5057 I remember when I linked the dots while reading the comics I was like "Holy... 700 hundred years and she didn't learn the language..."
@@helixgob695 MGTOW my bro! :P It does not discriminate.
I like how much the story diverges in the show but doesn't stray all that far.
Yes?
@@ggt47 ?
I wish I had picked up the comics when they first came out. These characters are amazing.
I haven’t watched the series but just hearing the bond, friendship, and eventual love between beast girl and robot was just touching
I've been looking forward to this ...
In the end we see his true character, a man driven purely(ish) by logic just like the machines that raised him.
I think the phrase ".. Insanely brutal.. " is Key Issues favourite saying!
Lol guilty... sorry