One thing I dislike about bjj coming from a different MA is the ability to just pull guard or sit down so long as you have even the slightest of grips.
I think bbj is only good for a back up art when you realize you can't beat a striker or trapping art . Their are better ranges for combat than on the ground . Shit let's see that bbj take down a Judo practitoner . Which Japanese Jujitsu was better for combat due to all fighting ranges are involved. Kicking , throwing puching, trapping and grappling for a complete system . Me personally I like killing art's better than sport fighting arts . They all have their places . But we all need what's going to benefit us personally . I train in poison hand's art . And I love Kali ! I say it's a better self defense art . Most combative situations ain't on mats . Let's see that cokey kid slide his back side on concrete or asphalt . It's a game changer I tell ya .
I used to run a bjj club at a local university. Occasionally the wrestling club would come in and train. After sparring at the end of class, a few of the students came up to me very discouraged regarding their rolls with the wrestlers. I had to tell them, you have been training for 6 months, they've been wrestling for bare minimum 4 years. Just because the ruleset is different doesn't mean the techniques don't work. Next time you roll with them and they get you with a reversal, pin, etc pick their brain about the technique. I do it, and most wrestlers will do the same if you catch them with something. At the end of the day grappling is grappling rule sets change small aspects but we can learn from each other to become better grapplers.
@Chop Styx we train to get better, if someone hits a good technique, ask them about it. It might become one of your go to moves or you learn to defend it or both!
Traditional jujitsu (which judo and aikido evolved from basically looking at lineage) does strikes as well. An overall battlefield system. Though lacks some wrestling tech. Sambo is like jujitsu. Having gone through many bjj (traditional jujitsu books are hard to find) wrestling and sambo books ( looking at throws here) sambo had the best coverage for standing, clinch, and ground grappling. Sakaraba is still my hero though. The gracie hunter/killer. Legend
@Archerfish Johns yeah in conclusion learn wrestling, bjj, Judo some muay thai , some boxing, some karate and some gun shooting, some swimming , some diving ( if you fight under water) some fire fighting ( if your fighting in fire) , some fencing, some HEMA, some Kali, some Astronaut Jitsu (if you fighting in space without gravity) , some car Jitsu, and some Ninjutsu to put it all together
As soon as you realize rhey can wrestle (they put their palm on your forehead, or are moving really low and keep touching the ground and faking shots) you flop to the ground, pull guard and butt scoot around. Problem solved 🤣
Ngl I’m a purple belt and whenever a really good wrestler comes in I pull guard and go straight for the legs. If I don’t I end up getting smashed and I’m tired of these damn wrestlers coming in and mauling all of us 😂
We’re just the worst aren’t we? In all seriousness tho it’s good to have a mix so we can all improve where we’re weak, you teach me me all the crazy leg attacks and i’ll teach you greco throws, that type of thing.
@@jamesw512 yea whenever a wrestler comes in I try to pick their brain. Somehow these dudes are always build like tanks even if they haven’t wrestled in years. It’s like that type of strength sticks with them forever
@Keegan Yentsch in the training room I’ll definitely start standing, and my takedown defense has gotten a whole lot better. But when it’s time to compete and I see a dude who’s built like a tank, with cauliflower ear, and hes wearing a wrestling t shirt, I usually always pull guard. My thought process is hes obviously the better wrestler, so why lose points immediately by letting him wrestle. Id rather pull half guard and start working my game, than get double legged and be behind on points from the start.
Get a wrestling coach at your jiujits gym. Terrible how so many don’t intertwine it w jiujits and especially working off the wall. Changes your game completely
@@fightrrrrr we do have a wrestling coach. But it’s going to take more than a few wrestling sessions a week to out wrestle a guy who’s been wrestling since she was 8. And I was over exaggerating, I don’t always pull guard I’m just making a joke at how much of a pain in the ass it is to roll with college wrestlers who are jacked and strong.
I think we should stop arguing about which one is better because when u learn them both they compliment each other SOOO WELL, I LOVE THEM BOTH THEY ARE BOTH AWSOME
@Wrestling University - Effective Takedown Systems thanks for your content. Got much better at my single leg takedown. Still struggling with the double leg but I'm getting there
As a wrestler and a judoka bjj can be so frustrating sometimes. I love to learn the techniques but it becomes boring whenever people realise u can wrestle and pull guard from the get go, like stand with me and you'll learn something, and when it eventually goes to the ground you can teach me something there too! I never understand why in training people don't try these difficult things, obvs comp is different and strategically you should pull guard on a wrestler, but in training, pick their brains, that's what all us wrestlers do on the ground with use, we steal your sweeps and submissions, steal our takedowns!!
The problem is most of us have been wrestling for a decade drilling the same moves over and over. You could blindfolded 2 wrestlers have them allways be touching each other and almost nothing would change.
Its because their soft and afraid of really getting after it. why a lot of them do ju jitsu - Its slow and mostly safe so they can fool themselves into believing they can truly fight or grapple when in all actuality they cant especially without Gi on. Not saying there aren't studs in Jujitsu, just saying that on mass (in the US) these are mostly suburban people wanting to feel like their doing something that can help them in a street fight or looking for some community. Its like Karate or Kung-fu in the 80s and 90s. Now you have 150 pounds men running around thinking size and genetics doesn't matter and they can beat Lebron James in fight, its idiotic and delusional. But because people like this have never really been in a fight and probably never will the delusion persists.
I've wrestled for about 12 years, and did BJJ after high school. A lot of the times I had to be paired up with the higher belts or the bigger guys. I didn't know how to submit anyone, but I knew how not to be submitted, and that's all I ended up doing. Staying on top and surviving submissions lmao. It was always a stalemate. At least until I learned how to spam the arm triangle LOL.
I did 16 years, the intensity of wrestling practice as compared to your average BJJ academy or gym is hard to replicate. An hour of drills followed by an hour of live wrestling 5 days a week for 4 months. Let’s not talk about “voluntary” freestyle practice then rest of the year. In my opinion, the process that has been created for wrestling as a sport allows for its dominance in most situations. Even though I just got back into Grappling 6 months ago after 20 year hiatus.. I can go the full 30 minutes of rolling because I remember the suck well. go throw up in the trashcan and get back out there.
When I was a wrestler, the jiu-jitsu were the scariest. But now, as a jiu-jitsu, the wrestlers are the scariest. Wrestling and jiu-jitsu have a lot to learn from each other.
@@aaronataman892 Yeah I can confirm with a gi i’m up a certain creek without a paddle against a strong blue belt, but can go 5 hard rounds and not ever get subbed with a purple/brown belt if there’s no gi on (-me being big stupid and getting myself into leg locks) crazy how they use that thing for so many different attacks/sweeps, bewilders me to no end.
@@captainkirk7513 BJJ isn’t everything bud, like look at the history of BJJ vs Catch Wrestlers/ Luta Livre practitioners. The gracies get there asses kick almost all the time, and they get butthurt about it too. BJJ isn’t everything
I love it, as a BJJ practicioner who has fighted wrestlers i must say their athleticism and physical preparation is outstanding and way better than the normal athleticism gained in BJJ, but once the fights starts to being in the ground BJJ has the advantage in my opinion, is only logical to have the advantage in your area of expertise, so i am always trying to take wrestling take downs to BJJ xD, and yeah, i am writing a lot the word BJJ, BJJ nfnfngn
Huge difference in training philosophy. With wrestling, at least in USA, coaches are paid by the state, not per customer. Philosophy is to make toughest team possible--doesn't matter how many people quit. In bjj, the goal is self defense for everyone, coaches/gyms need unathletic folks to stay and keep paying membership, so the practices aren't focused on fighting to the death. Also more people in bjj gym are 30-55, work real jobs and can't get injured, aren't youthful teens who don't mind injuries. Both philosophies have their merits though!
@@Arcadianx98 ans training from a young age, for free, in school. Them boys would be just like wrestlers. There are teams/gyms that train hard as fuck and focus solely on competition though. I personally like the lighter training style, as I get older I'd like to continue training without fucking up all my joints before I'm 50
@@aarr8936 so true. The stigma of wrestlers coming into BJJ gym and giving everyone a hard time is purely a difference in type of people, not so much the difference in art
My friend back in college was a D1 wrestler and I only ever trained in boxing for about 2 years, no grappling experience at all. One night we were all drinking and he convinced a couple of us to try out for the wrestling club, long story short none of us went back for a second class
the gentleman in the video thinks he would have fun with the wrestler... he is a purple, and with a wrestler who goes to national competitions, taking 10th or 7th place, a black belt has a big problem. but the filik is so light with distance, good luck in a real fight with a wrestler, be careful because they are much faster, stronger and more mobile. but it's a matter of the selection of players and disposition
I am a wrestler, and I also do jujitsu and all I have to say is that you can get a wrestler almost every time with a guillotine, but jujitsu has so much wrestling in it.
And if you want assurance that you can easily defeat all three, carry a 20$ pocket knife. It will save you years of playing grab ass training being groped and mounted by other men. 🤷🏻♂️ don’t hate the playa hate the game!
This is so true! My first week into bjj I was hitting the deepest blast doubles, but because I like to drive through with my head, I get instantly front head locked.
Adjust your head position put it in their chest. Also do a feint. Level change like you’re going to tie up get their chest high and explode through that double. Control your momentum at worst you’re in guard
Forehead in the chest if you still can’t get used to it try swinging them backwards right before you take them down if they have your head let gravity loosen the grip then fight out of it while you maintain control on the takedown
Judo is literally getting the best throws from ancient jiu jitsu, and BJJ is literally getting the best ground play from Judo, and Aikido is literally getting the worst moves from ancient jiu jitsu
I honestly don't understand the rivalry between wrestling and BJJ. More than half of the guys I train with at the BJJ academy, including myself, are former or current wrestlers. I wrestled from 2nd grade thru high-school, had been training in Judo for 5 years before starting BJJ in 2009. But other than different rules, I never really saw BJJ and wrestling (or Judo) as different or separate things. To me, they have always been "wrestling" and "wrestling with submissions". The Judo club I trained at spent as much time on rolling, chokes, and arm submissions (Ne Waza, Shime Waza, Kansetsu/Katame Waza) as we did throws and takedowns. And when I started BJJ, with my wrestling and Judo background, I picked it up really quickly and good at it right away. There were a few things that I were unfamiliar, but for the most part, I had no problem at all holding my own on my first day. What I'm trying to say is that when it comes down to it, whether it's wrestling or BJJ, or Judo, it's all just grappling to me. 🤷♂️
I wrestled in highschool and recently took up BJJ. I'm a pretty fresh white belt and did my first tourney a few days ago. First round went well and was winning on points but I ended up tapping to the guillotine with a minute left. Second round went terrible, I did sloppy double leg and landed in "side control" but my opponent had the guillotine. I was a confirmed guillotine buffet.
I wrestled for most of my life through senior year of high school and started training BJJ about two years ago. What I’ve learned is they compliment each other and fix the flaws each have on their own.
I rolled with a wrestler once. Holy fuck. Kid was so strong and had so much stamina, all he had to do was outlast me. Which took about 6 minutes, then he turned on the win button. My neck and arms had never been so sore.
Coaches say you gotta give 110% every minute and you can’t show them your tired even if you are it’s like a game of chicken to see who can make the other guy act tired first
I remember when I was training I was maybe 5-6 months into it (mma) and this wrestler came in who had probably a solid 20-25lbs of muscle over me and had no experience in BJJ and would get tapped by me even though he easily took me down. It didn’t take long at all for him to no longer get caught in submissions and started getting the better of me. Pure wrestling loses to BJJ but it doesn’t take long for wrestlers to become the dominant grapplers once they learn the submission game.
Chillax brah it is just a tiktok short with all pre rehearsed/choreographed moves, people like you are easy too fool coz they instantly believe what they see, ask this dude to try all this against a UFC/MMA veteran or a against Brock Lesnar, I can bet he'd get mauled to death.
My mma coach who’s favourite practice is catch wrestling got told by a new guy at the gym that he has a lot of experience in bjj my coach responded by saying “ that’s cute “. Nuff said
I’m not trying to play Devil’s advocate but I actually was able to tap out D1 wrestlers after 6 months of jiujitsu within a min just because I think they weren’t expecting certain submissions but honestly it even surprised me. But once they took jiujitsu for a few months I wasn’t able to submit them anymore and they then turned into amazing mma fighters
You take somebody who's been doing BJJ for one year and you put him against somebody who's been doing wrestling for a year and the BJJ guy gets fucking demolished.
I went against my friend who practiced jiu-jitsu for a couple of years, im a beginning wrestler, im 120 he's 150 and he not only locked my head but did it with astonishing speed and strength, I've let people practice head locks on me countless times, from wrestling bros to just random strong people cause im pretty strong and very slippery and nothing i did stopped this guy from demolishing me in seconds.
@@ALushPair have you never seen ADCC? Half of the matches start with a buttscoot. ADCC, IBJJF, etc. ban or disincentivize the actual effective techniques from wrestling and Judo. But decent wrestlers have still done well and won at ADCC.
@@ALushPair Ricco Rodriguez, Jeff Monson, Mark Kerr, Mark Robinson. Weird that you wouldn't know that, considering Kerr is in the ADCC HOF as a triple crown champ. Wrestlers also win world grappling titles in other orgs too. That "pure grappling" excuse is pure nonsense. If BJJ was pure grappling, the orgs wouldn't ban effective techniques from other grappling styles while still allowing butt scooting.
I’m a mediocre BJJ practitioner and I have friends who are state level wrestlers who know 0 bjj and after getting guillotined in the first round they just started throwing me around
I would honestly do the same if we can scare you enough we can beat you wresting is all abt mindset so if we can mess up yours we think we can win and if we think we can win our mindset gets stronger
One thing i love about fighting is that you can always become better, youre great in judo? Maybe try lifting their legs up with your hands. Your muay thai is great? Try some taekwondo kicks... etc.
Thats something i really had to realize when i started training MMA. Stop comparing yourself to guys who have been doing it for years. Its a literal guarentee youll get beat up for a while at the start then youll start getting good.
You should have followed this up with “How it actually goes” and done something with that. I was a little surprised how it ended only showing “how they think it will go”
Honestly Joe Rogan said it perfectly when you train BJJ it’s mostly a bunch of guys who smoke weed and roll while wrestling training is grueling and exhausting. The mental fortitude definitely plays a role.
Yeah, Brazilian jiu jitsu and wrestling are both similar but also opposites that’s why it’s challenging for wrestlers and BJJ students to go against each other. wrestlers focus on being aggressive well Bjj students focus on being patient so it can make Both of the people very impatient.
Wrestlers do advance way quicker than the average person. My first day of bjj I was tapping blue belts but I’ve been wrestling literally my entire life.
I prefer traditional/Japanese jiujitsu which takes in striking elements and use them as a counter to instigate throws and restraints. It is less about groundwork’s and more about throwing from standing then pinning them with an arm loco
Well, there's also Catch Wrestling which is old school Lancashire Wrestling that combines Aggressive Grappling with Submission Holds. It's the best of both worlds.
Wrestling is what I’d recommend first and then jiu jitsu bc ppl don’t realize wrestler are stronger and faster and have more technique to control you rather than submit you
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One thing I dislike about bjj coming from a different MA is the ability to just pull guard or sit down so long as you have even the slightest of grips.
I think bbj is only good for a back up art when you realize you can't beat a striker or trapping art . Their are better ranges for combat than on the ground . Shit let's see that bbj take down a Judo practitoner . Which Japanese Jujitsu was better for combat due to all fighting ranges are involved. Kicking , throwing puching, trapping and grappling for a complete system . Me personally I like killing art's better than sport fighting arts . They all have their places . But we all need what's going to benefit us personally . I train in poison hand's art . And I love Kali ! I say it's a better self defense art . Most combative situations ain't on mats . Let's see that cokey kid slide his back side on concrete or asphalt . It's a game changer I tell ya .
I used to run a bjj club at a local university. Occasionally the wrestling club would come in and train. After sparring at the end of class, a few of the students came up to me very discouraged regarding their rolls with the wrestlers. I had to tell them, you have been training for 6 months, they've been wrestling for bare minimum 4 years. Just because the ruleset is different doesn't mean the techniques don't work. Next time you roll with them and they get you with a reversal, pin, etc pick their brain about the technique. I do it, and most wrestlers will do the same if you catch them with something. At the end of the day grappling is grappling rule sets change small aspects but we can learn from each other to become better grapplers.
I remember getting ram through by a wrestler thinking I was absolutely trash 😂
This comment, whenever I get subbed or hit with a good move I ask. Be a student of the sport.
@Chop Styx we train to get better, if someone hits a good technique, ask them about it. It might become one of your go to moves or you learn to defend it or both!
Love that attitude mate, and that theory applies to all aspects of life!
That’s exactly how it should be in all aspects of life even direct competition.
In conclusion, learn Wrestling, BJJ and Judo, so you could become the ultimate grappler.
oh yeah
So sambo without the striking
Traditional jujitsu (which judo and aikido evolved from basically looking at lineage) does strikes as well. An overall battlefield system. Though lacks some wrestling tech. Sambo is like jujitsu.
Having gone through many bjj (traditional jujitsu books are hard to find) wrestling and sambo books ( looking at throws here) sambo had the best coverage for standing, clinch, and ground grappling. Sakaraba is still my hero though. The gracie hunter/killer. Legend
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Nah, specialize in only worm guard and win tournaments with annoying sweeps.
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As soon as you realize rhey can wrestle (they put their palm on your forehead, or are moving really low and keep touching the ground and faking shots) you flop to the ground, pull guard and butt scoot around. Problem solved 🤣
Ngl I’m a purple belt and whenever a really good wrestler comes in I pull guard and go straight for the legs. If I don’t I end up getting smashed and I’m tired of these damn wrestlers coming in and mauling all of us 😂
We’re just the worst aren’t we? In all seriousness tho it’s good to have a mix so we can all improve where we’re weak, you teach me me all the crazy leg attacks and i’ll teach you greco throws, that type of thing.
@@jamesw512 yea whenever a wrestler comes in I try to pick their brain. Somehow these dudes are always build like tanks even if they haven’t wrestled in years. It’s like that type of strength sticks with them forever
@Keegan Yentsch in the training room I’ll definitely start standing, and my takedown defense has gotten a whole lot better. But when it’s time to compete and I see a dude who’s built like a tank, with cauliflower ear, and hes wearing a wrestling t shirt, I usually always pull guard. My thought process is hes obviously the better wrestler, so why lose points immediately by letting him wrestle. Id rather pull half guard and start working my game, than get double legged and be behind on points from the start.
Get a wrestling coach at your jiujits gym. Terrible how so many don’t intertwine it w jiujits and especially working off the wall. Changes your game completely
@@fightrrrrr we do have a wrestling coach. But it’s going to take more than a few wrestling sessions a week to out wrestle a guy who’s been wrestling since she was 8. And I was over exaggerating, I don’t always pull guard I’m just making a joke at how much of a pain in the ass it is to roll with college wrestlers who are jacked and strong.
I think we should stop arguing about which one is better because when u learn them both they compliment each other SOOO WELL, I LOVE THEM BOTH THEY ARE BOTH AWSOME
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@Wrestling University - Effective Takedown Systems thanks for your content. Got much better at my single leg takedown. Still struggling with the double leg but I'm getting there
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Wrestling isn’t a martial art
Things white belts say 😂 just kidding
No faster way to disrespect another grappling style than butt scooting
Or your own style
As a wrestler and a judoka bjj can be so frustrating sometimes. I love to learn the techniques but it becomes boring whenever people realise u can wrestle and pull guard from the get go, like stand with me and you'll learn something, and when it eventually goes to the ground you can teach me something there too! I never understand why in training people don't try these difficult things, obvs comp is different and strategically you should pull guard on a wrestler, but in training, pick their brains, that's what all us wrestlers do on the ground with use, we steal your sweeps and submissions, steal our takedowns!!
The problem is most of us have been wrestling for a decade drilling the same moves over and over. You could blindfolded 2 wrestlers have them allways be touching each other and almost nothing would change.
Well said bro
Its because their soft and afraid of really getting after it. why a lot of them do ju jitsu - Its slow and mostly safe so they can fool themselves into believing they can truly fight or grapple when in all actuality they cant especially without Gi on. Not saying there aren't studs in Jujitsu, just saying that on mass (in the US) these are mostly suburban people wanting to feel like their doing something that can help them in a street fight or looking for some community. Its like Karate or Kung-fu in the 80s and 90s. Now you have 150 pounds men running around thinking size and genetics doesn't matter and they can beat Lebron James in fight, its idiotic and delusional. But because people like this have never really been in a fight and probably never will the delusion persists.
I love me a cheeky lil ankle pick
I've wrestled for about 12 years, and did BJJ after high school. A lot of the times I had to be paired up with the higher belts or the bigger guys. I didn't know how to submit anyone, but I knew how not to be submitted, and that's all I ended up doing. Staying on top and surviving submissions lmao. It was always a stalemate.
At least until I learned how to spam the arm triangle LOL.
I still have alot of wrestling habits that I do in bjj,I never pull guard or stay on my back too long
I hate pulling guard and I never wrestled. I wish i had access to wrestling or sambo,
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Currently my problem. I’ll end up mounting and being able to hold the position but then forget all the submissions I’ve learned and ware myself out.
I did 16 years, the intensity of wrestling practice as compared to your average BJJ academy or gym is hard to replicate. An hour of drills followed by an hour of live wrestling 5 days a week for 4 months. Let’s not talk about “voluntary” freestyle practice then rest of the year. In my opinion, the process that has been created for wrestling as a sport allows for its dominance in most situations. Even though I just got back into Grappling 6 months ago after 20 year hiatus.. I can go the full 30 minutes of rolling because I remember the suck well. go throw up in the trashcan and get back out there.
The second guy who shot on him could win an Oscar.
All of them could tbh
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When I was a wrestler, the jiu-jitsu were the scariest. But now, as a jiu-jitsu, the wrestlers are the scariest. Wrestling and jiu-jitsu have a lot to learn from each other.
What actually happens is you get speared, pull guard, you’re both scared and don’t know what’s going on.
Exactly
I add, you wrapped a guillotine and he landed on his head, you got the breath knocked out of you.
How it's actually going down: they're catching you with a blast double but then end up stuck in your guard
gi sure. NoGi tho might just stack you until the bell 🤷♂️
@@aaronataman892 yeah, they're gonna be stacking you in your closed guard the whole time 🤣 sweeps won't work either bc their base is crazy.
Lol it hurts because it's true. Gd wrestlers 😂
@@aaronataman892 Yeah I can confirm with a gi i’m up a certain creek without a paddle against a strong blue belt, but can go 5 hard rounds and not ever get subbed with a purple/brown belt if there’s no gi on (-me being big stupid and getting myself into leg locks) crazy how they use that thing for so many different attacks/sweeps, bewilders me to no end.
@@aarr8936 lmao my life I have short limbs but a great base I just stack to side control and play points
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Marking his territory with that bum sweep😂
This guys ‘bitch please’ expression is perfect
As a jiu jitsu guy I can confirm that’s how I think the round will go
and it does
Cap I had a friend who did bjj and he had been doing it for 4 years and I had done wrestling for 1 I ALWAYS won
@@lowbatterymusicoutlet7493 yeah thats because yor friends bjj was no good
@@captainkirk7513 BJJ isn’t everything bud, like look at the history of BJJ vs Catch Wrestlers/ Luta Livre practitioners. The gracies get there asses kick almost all the time, and they get butthurt about it too. BJJ isn’t everything
@@ferumcastrum4097 nah son those skirmishes were staged wake up
Lots of ppl dont realize how hard it is to submit a very strong wrestler especially when they have a very good top control....
It’s that confidence that gets wrestlers tapped the first time but only the first lmfao
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Appreciate that Ashton, many more to come 😎
That's how boxers thinks is going to happen but with an uppercut instead
Or you could just knee them
I do both and you’re totally right an uppercut would never even land bcs you couldn’t reach the chin and it would be stabilized by the leg
If it’s a street fight, boxers use their kicks too bro it’s not like they are just gonna fully box in a street fight
@@lilmanq7746 lmao like they know how to kick properly
@@bachconneshon7809 not hard to throw a leg kick 🤣
Ok but that ashi garami pull went hard on the last dude ngl😭💯
When I did bjj I got to roll with some wrestlers. The weight control they have is insane. Really helped me up my game at the time.
I love it, as a BJJ practicioner who has fighted wrestlers i must say their athleticism and physical preparation is outstanding and way better than the normal athleticism gained in BJJ, but once the fights starts to being in the ground BJJ has the advantage in my opinion, is only logical to have the advantage in your area of expertise, so i am always trying to take wrestling take downs to BJJ xD, and yeah, i am writing a lot the word BJJ, BJJ nfnfngn
Spot on brother ⚡️
Huge difference in training philosophy. With wrestling, at least in USA, coaches are paid by the state, not per customer. Philosophy is to make toughest team possible--doesn't matter how many people quit. In bjj, the goal is self defense for everyone, coaches/gyms need unathletic folks to stay and keep paying membership, so the practices aren't focused on fighting to the death. Also more people in bjj gym are 30-55, work real jobs and can't get injured, aren't youthful teens who don't mind injuries. Both philosophies have their merits though!
@@aarr8936imagine a BJJ team paid by the state to make the toughest team possible
@@Arcadianx98 ans training from a young age, for free, in school. Them boys would be just like wrestlers. There are teams/gyms that train hard as fuck and focus solely on competition though. I personally like the lighter training style, as I get older I'd like to continue training without fucking up all my joints before I'm 50
@@aarr8936 so true. The stigma of wrestlers coming into BJJ gym and giving everyone a hard time is purely a difference in type of people, not so much the difference in art
My friend back in college was a D1 wrestler and I only ever trained in boxing for about 2 years, no grappling experience at all. One night we were all drinking and he convinced a couple of us to try out for the wrestling club, long story short none of us went back for a second class
the gentleman in the video thinks he would have fun with the wrestler... he is a purple, and with a wrestler who goes to national competitions, taking 10th or 7th place, a black belt has a big problem. but the filik is so light with distance, good luck in a real fight with a wrestler, be careful because they are much faster, stronger and more mobile. but it's a matter of the selection of players and disposition
Wrestling: Deadly standing up
BJJ: Deadly on the ground
Combined: Deadly anywhere
He knows his stuff
boxer starts laughing
@@captainkirk7513 Boxers done for when the grappler takes him to the ground
@@ferumcastrum4097 jah but they dont most of the time
@@captainkirk7513 not sure what you are talking about, grappler usually always beat a good striker
BJJ:😂😂😂 got you in a Guillotine head lock
Wrestler: 😢 psych spine buster 🤬
BJJ: got you in a triangle hold
Wrestler: power bomb 🤬 🤣🤣
I am a wrestler, and I also do jujitsu and all I have to say is that you can get a wrestler almost every time with a guillotine, but jujitsu has so much wrestling in it.
If you want to be lethal use Jiu jitsu
If you want to be unstoppable use wrestling
*If you want to be untouchable use both*
You know wrestlers can choke fuckers out too right?
So judo it is.
@@apapunitu-rt3ni and a gun.
And if you want assurance that you can easily defeat all three, carry a 20$ pocket knife. It will save you years of playing grab ass training being groped and mounted by other men. 🤷🏻♂️ don’t hate the playa hate the game!
Judo+Jiu-jitsu+Wrestling=Sambo, Combine all three and you have an ultimate combat system in your self defence repertoire.
This is so true! My first week into bjj I was hitting the deepest blast doubles, but because I like to drive through with my head, I get instantly front head locked.
Adjust your head position put it in their chest. Also do a feint. Level change like you’re going to tie up get their chest high and explode through that double. Control your momentum at worst you’re in guard
that’s cause you don’t know how to shoot a proper double
Forehead in the chest if you still can’t get used to it try swinging them backwards right before you take them down if they have your head let gravity loosen the grip then fight out of it while you maintain control on the takedown
Judo is literally getting the best throws from ancient jiu jitsu, and BJJ is literally getting the best ground play from Judo, and Aikido is literally getting the worst moves from ancient jiu jitsu
You even timed it to the music 🤣 Now you know you can retire from wrestling and get into the choreography business.
Hung up my shoes immediately after the video 😎
Lol wow this was seamless! We love the comedy
It's fun knowing both. Wrestling is more fun on your feet and jiu-jitsu is more fun on the mat.
My gym loves when wrestlers come through. Y’all bring in something different and aren’t used too
For most bjj guys i am shocked that most do not practice the takedown side, they just lay on their backs like a prom date
Khabib enters the chat
Jordan burroughs enters the chat😂
"IF SAMBO WAS EASY, IT WOULD BE CALLED JUJITSU".👌😎👍
I honestly don't understand the rivalry between wrestling and BJJ. More than half of the guys I train with at the BJJ academy, including myself, are former or current wrestlers. I wrestled from 2nd grade thru high-school, had been training in Judo for 5 years before starting BJJ in 2009. But other than different rules, I never really saw BJJ and wrestling (or Judo) as different or separate things. To me, they have always been "wrestling" and "wrestling with submissions". The Judo club I trained at spent as much time on rolling, chokes, and arm submissions (Ne Waza, Shime Waza, Kansetsu/Katame Waza) as we did throws and takedowns. And when I started BJJ, with my wrestling and Judo background, I picked it up really quickly and good at it right away. There were a few things that I were unfamiliar, but for the most part, I had no problem at all holding my own on my first day. What I'm trying to say is that when it comes down to it, whether it's wrestling or BJJ, or Judo, it's all just grappling to me. 🤷♂️
I wrestled in highschool and recently took up BJJ. I'm a pretty fresh white belt and did my first tourney a few days ago. First round went well and was winning on points but I ended up tapping to the guillotine with a minute left. Second round went terrible, I did sloppy double leg and landed in "side control" but my opponent had the guillotine. I was a confirmed guillotine buffet.
Bless him, trying to make all the bjj kids feel better
u mad😂
Nah he right bjj is trash
The last guy needs to keep his face covered so we can’t see him laughing at these antics 😂😂
Lol I didn’t even catch that myself
It was impossible not to laugh
@Jacob Beeney were you that last guy? 😂
@@alotafhindi7485 Yeah
I wrestled for most of my life through senior year of high school and started training BJJ about two years ago. What I’ve learned is they compliment each other and fix the flaws each have on their own.
this is the freaking funniest video - can't tell you how many time's i've watched it
I rolled with a wrestler once. Holy fuck. Kid was so strong and had so much stamina, all he had to do was outlast me. Which took about 6 minutes, then he turned on the win button. My neck and arms had never been so sore.
Coaches say you gotta give 110% every minute and you can’t show them your tired even if you are it’s like a game of chicken to see who can make the other guy act tired first
I've been there
Worst when they're new to the class and you're unaware that they're wrestlers 😪
First move you learn.. the last one we see😂.. p. S. A wrestler once bit my armpit because I had top position and locked him down.
Something I love about this channel is that it's as good at teaching technique as making excellent fucking jokes.
I remember when I was training I was maybe 5-6 months into it (mma) and this wrestler came in who had probably a solid 20-25lbs of muscle over me and had no experience in BJJ and would get tapped by me even though he easily took me down. It didn’t take long at all for him to no longer get caught in submissions and started getting the better of me. Pure wrestling loses to BJJ but it doesn’t take long for wrestlers to become the dominant grapplers once they learn the submission game.
You just made Steven Seagal proud
Holy sh%$ dude had me dying. The next John Wick.
The butt scooting at the end😂😂
In the words of Homer Simpson:
"It's true, it's true. We're so lame".
Loving the content.
Lol thank you brother 🙏🏻
I'm going to take jiu-jitsu. He went trough those guys like it was nothing. That's pretty dope...
Pretty inaccurate too
Do wrestling the joke is that it wouldn’t work
Chillax brah it is just a tiktok short with all pre rehearsed/choreographed moves, people like you are easy too fool coz they instantly believe what they see, ask this dude to try all this against a UFC/MMA veteran or a against Brock Lesnar, I can bet he'd get mauled to death.
My mma coach who’s favourite practice is catch wrestling got told by a new guy at the gym that he has a lot of experience in bjj my coach responded by saying “ that’s cute “. Nuff said
🤦🏻♂️
😂😂 his name is coach Thomas Lamont. Ask any of your bjj guys if they know who he is.
No the booty scootten forward out of the screen got me! Lol😅
That’s why people carry when they go out.
Smartest person to comment tbh I’ve done boxing bjj and wrestling and a gun would beat it no matter what👍
In the US at least
@@tyeades975 yours for sure
Yo! this shit was hilarious 😂
He hit those guillotines like stone cold stunners 😂
I’m not trying to play Devil’s advocate but I actually was able to tap out D1 wrestlers after 6 months of jiujitsu within a min just because I think they weren’t expecting certain submissions but honestly it even surprised me. But once they took jiujitsu for a few months I wasn’t able to submit them anymore and they then turned into amazing mma fighters
You take somebody who's been doing BJJ for one year and you put him against somebody who's been doing wrestling for a year and the BJJ guy gets fucking demolished.
Bjj way more technique wrestling you can do the same motions for a month straight and have a killer take down and set up
Bjj you can practice ten years still be a newbie but flexible but wrestling your body becomes just one mass of power
@101IQ no wrestlers lose
And then they fireman carry slam you into a baby cradle and you get woken up real fast.
You wouldn't even get close to someone who knows what they're doing in bjj😂
Ok that was funny af at the end, thanks for keeping eye contact while you did it 😅
Comments section can’t enjoy the comedy in the video 😂 epic content
It’s like chiiiilllll guys lol
@@WrestlingUniversity seriously lmao
Basically Wrestling is the oldest and most exhausting form of combat.. These guyz have heart of horse.
No chance! I've never had no BJJ guy that has stopped a take down.
I went against my friend who practiced jiu-jitsu for a couple of years, im a beginning wrestler, im 120 he's 150 and he not only locked my head but did it with astonishing speed and strength,
I've let people practice head locks on me countless times, from wrestling bros to just random strong people cause im pretty strong and very slippery and nothing i did stopped this guy from demolishing me in seconds.
Plenty of good wrestlers in the UFC....
Don't care what anyone says. Wrestlers are the best grapplers in the world. The strength, speed, and technique will break most jiu-jitsu guys.
@@ALushPair Because they are wrestlers lol. It’s a full time commitment
@@ALushPair have you never seen ADCC? Half of the matches start with a buttscoot. ADCC, IBJJF, etc. ban or disincentivize the actual effective techniques from wrestling and Judo. But decent wrestlers have still done well and won at ADCC.
@@ALushPair Ricco Rodriguez, Jeff Monson, Mark Kerr, Mark Robinson. Weird that you wouldn't know that, considering Kerr is in the ADCC HOF as a triple crown champ. Wrestlers also win world grappling titles in other orgs too. That "pure grappling" excuse is pure nonsense. If BJJ was pure grappling, the orgs wouldn't ban effective techniques from other grappling styles while still allowing butt scooting.
Nah
Now let’s do BJJ vs wrestling for MMA..
😂😂😂 the scoot across the mat...Priceless
Yoooooooo I'm over here crying laughing when he mugged for the camera on the last maneuver 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂oh my God😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅🤣
I’m a mediocre BJJ practitioner and I have friends who are state level wrestlers who know 0 bjj and after getting guillotined in the first round they just started throwing me around
yeah youre mediocre indeed then
I would honestly do the same if we can scare you enough we can beat you wresting is all abt mindset so if we can mess up yours we think we can win and if we think we can win our mindset gets stronger
One thing i love about fighting is that you can always become better, youre great in judo? Maybe try lifting their legs up with your hands. Your muay thai is great? Try some taekwondo kicks... etc.
Jack Grealish going crazy with those moves.
Thats something i really had to realize when i started training MMA. Stop comparing yourself to guys who have been doing it for years. Its a literal guarentee youll get beat up for a while at the start then youll start getting good.
You should have followed this up with “How it actually goes” and done something with that. I was a little surprised how it ended only showing “how they think it will go”
BJJ = Great on your back
Wrestling= Great on your front
Hybrid = A Serious Problem
Can we talk about this sub 1 second front naked choke submissions, back to back 😂😂
Thanis for this fam! 🙏🏾
Honestly Joe Rogan said it perfectly when you train BJJ it’s mostly a bunch of guys who smoke weed and roll while wrestling training is grueling and exhausting. The mental fortitude definitely plays a role.
Love this 😂😂
The best grappling art is BOAF!
Now, my wrestling may suck, but don’t forget, my jiu jitsu also sucks ;)
Yeah, Brazilian jiu jitsu and wrestling are both similar but also opposites that’s why it’s challenging for wrestlers and BJJ students to go against each other. wrestlers focus on being aggressive well Bjj students focus on being patient so it can make Both of the people very impatient.
Song: get the f*** up
Man: *BUTT SCOOT GO BRRRRR*
Proceeds to use fireman’s carry💀
Wait for the muay Thai user 💀💀💀
He really saves it in the end! 😅
If Sambo was easy it'd be called JiuJitsu
If Rugby was easy it'd be called Sambo
@@himalayantongue
If Rugby was easy it'd be called tango 😂
Him giving that look to that camera😂😂😂
There is a big boy wrestler at my gym, I learn so much from him.
Each martial art has its advantages. Jiu jistu has submissions, wrestling has takedowns, and judo has throws
Wrestlers do advance way quicker than the average person. My first day of bjj I was tapping blue belts but I’ve been wrestling literally my entire life.
Dude look on the guy's face as he's having a leg-hold is priceless that look at the camera like yeah you see how a playa do
😁
The Glance & the booty scoot is what it’s doing it for me 😂🤣
I prefer traditional/Japanese jiujitsu which takes in striking elements and use them as a counter to instigate throws and restraints. It is less about groundwork’s and more about throwing from standing then pinning them with an arm loco
Well, there's also Catch Wrestling which is old school Lancashire Wrestling that combines Aggressive Grappling with Submission Holds.
It's the best of both worlds.
Everyone's talking about the buttscoot, but no one is talking about how the second guy to attack has massive cake 😔
BJJ lays on the ground: come at me bro!
When a BJJ wrestler steps across from you. You’re gonna get outscored and out maneuvered every step of the way.
Wrestling is what I’d recommend first and then jiu jitsu bc ppl don’t realize wrestler are stronger and faster and have more technique to control you rather than submit you
I’d put my money on the wrestler, all other things being equal.