Vocal Coach & Songwriter’s First Time Reaction to Pisces (Live session) - Jinjer | Song Analysis

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  • @throga
    @throga  4 місяці тому +3

    THANK YOU for watching! If you enjoy this video, please hit LIKE and SUBSCRIBE or buy us a coffee at buymeacoffee.com/throga

  • @alnorwood134
    @alnorwood134 10 місяців тому +27

    As a voice coach and songwriter you should definitely react to the singer Floor Jansen with the band Nightwish at the 2013 metal festival at Wacken. The song Ghost Love Score gives a great sampling of her range , styles, and power of her singing. And, 95% of their music is written and composed by the keyboardist. Prepare for a wild rabbit hole ride. They are a very skillful group who play for the music not to stand out. They were playing live before a crowd of 82 thousand. They are best live.

    • @JeffJacquesmd
      @JeffJacquesmd 9 місяців тому +3

      100% Floor is amazing and opened me up to symphonic metal. She’s brilliant, though I prefer Song of Myself from Wacken 2013 a bit more.

    • @alnorwood134
      @alnorwood134 9 місяців тому +2

      @@JeffJacquesmd I agree that GLS is not the bands best, but, it showcases a lot of Floor’s range, styles, and vocal colors/tones.

  • @jpdusn8347
    @jpdusn8347 10 місяців тому +362

    Ahh yes. The never ending saga of souls stolen by the great Tati and hung on the wall in her very large trophy room where she sits and smiles softly while sipping her morning coffee.

    • @boston_nsca
      @boston_nsca 10 місяців тому +13

      She has owned my soul since the first time i saw this video and im happy about it

    • @NeCoruption
      @NeCoruption 9 місяців тому +1

      I saw this comment on another reaction and I'll still like it every time lol. Good to see you again 🤣

    • @abbaa1637
      @abbaa1637 9 місяців тому

      🤡

    • @NeCoruption
      @NeCoruption 9 місяців тому

      @@abbaa1637 looking in a mirror head ahh

    • @Aftermost3590
      @Aftermost3590 8 місяців тому +1

      @@abbaa1637 Comment section aint a mirror fam

  • @stevebrown9955
    @stevebrown9955 10 місяців тому +275

    the drummer is a classically trained pianist

    • @frankhermansen243
      @frankhermansen243 10 місяців тому +40

      and selftought drummer...kinda weird...But Vlad rules

    • @hazmania
      @hazmania 10 місяців тому +20

      And IMO one the best drummers currently playing with any band (Phil Collins & Jason Bonham not withstanding). Vlad is an extraordinary musician, watch & hear him on Mediator (Jinjer, live drum playthrough, at Szene)!

    • @stevehedrick5400
      @stevehedrick5400 10 місяців тому +11

      his Rachmaninov 3rd is amazing

    • @Friskee62
      @Friskee62 10 місяців тому +7

      Being a classical piano player helps also...before he was a drummer.

    • @adultonsethunter5370
      @adultonsethunter5370 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@@hazmania Phil doesn't play anymore. It's his son Nic that plays and he's just as phenomenal as his dad.

  • @dallasclark5533
    @dallasclark5533 10 місяців тому +93

    Fun fact, Tatiana is self taught. Blows my mind every time I think about it.

  • @mikedanger6323
    @mikedanger6323 10 місяців тому +193

    The second song overwhelmingly chosen by reactors is Perennial live at Wacken. It showcases her ability to switch back and forth in a live setting with a special surprise near the very end for vocal specialists...

    • @tattoodude8946
      @tattoodude8946 10 місяців тому +16

      Yeah - I wish people would find a better example though. Don't get me wrong - that is a great performance, but it is the last song of their set and she is gassed. IMO Who is Gonna be the One - Napalm Records is a better video because it is the first song of their set and she is hyped! But there are a ton of live video of Jinger now. Perennial at Wacken is good, but in my opinion, she has actually gotten much better at her vocal control since then.

    • @ElizabathRafifar
      @ElizabathRafifar 10 місяців тому +2

      Glad you remembered this great song.

    • @mikedanger6323
      @mikedanger6323 10 місяців тому +5

      They are both great songs but Perennial, like Pisces, is a great introduction for non-metalheads. Once they are hooked, there are many, many great songs

    • @samcrorie
      @samcrorie 10 місяців тому +6

      ​@tattoodude8946 I think she's clearly out of breath while speaking but her vocals are still flawless in spite of it says how talented she is. Her breath control is amazing and she can switch between harsh and cleans effortlessly all day.

    • @realbigtuna667
      @realbigtuna667 10 місяців тому +3

      @@tattoodude8946 Better off using pit of consciousness live in Kiev

  • @OlderThanTime09
    @OlderThanTime09 10 місяців тому +15

    Her ability to annunciate on the growls is INCREDIBLE. I can understand her like it is just a thick accent. Even live. It is so clear.

  • @jimbrown424
    @jimbrown424 10 місяців тому +92

    She does a one take vocal of their song, Judgement & Punishment. Sooo cool. I highly recommend.
    Also any of their actual live performances.

  • @casandraadugyamfi
    @casandraadugyamfi 10 місяців тому +48

    As a vocal coach probably best to see Judgement & Punishment one take as it's just her so you can see her techniques.

  • @michellegower6812
    @michellegower6812 10 місяців тому +48

    Have you guys ever checked out Nightwish? Excellent band with an amazing vocalist. If you haven't, I would recommend starting with their song "Ghost Love Score" live at Wacken. It's absolutely amazing. Great reaction and analysis of Jinjer! My recommendation for the next song by them would be "Perennial" live at Wacken. You'll get to hear her switch "in real time." 😊

    • @TheRomy22ify
      @TheRomy22ify 7 місяців тому

      Oh yes, PLEASE do Nightwish also from Wacken 2013,it's worth every second ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @Ephem13
    @Ephem13 10 місяців тому +6

    Fun fact: This video was put out to showcase the new drummer Vlad. It just so happens to be most people's introduction to Tatiana. The entire band is so skilled. It took a decade, and literally every position changing at some point.

  • @StuTheMoose
    @StuTheMoose 10 місяців тому +65

    Tati goes a lot lower in several songs. There are parts in Vortex, Home Back, Pit Of Consciousness Live in Kiev and Who is Gonna Be The One Live for starters that she goes super low.

    • @hemlock399
      @hemlock399 10 місяців тому +7

      She also performs a vey nice high scream in Pit of Consciousness Live in Kiev, so it's an excellent showcase of her harsh vocal capabilities. It's also a very interesting song musically, but much heavier than Pisces.

    • @natashamarikleeba6239
      @natashamarikleeba6239 10 місяців тому +8

      Pit of Consciousness is one of my favorite songs. Her scream range is showcased well, but the whole band kills that song. Vlad's fills are so inventive and on point for all of their songs, but I just love the one at the end of Pit.

  • @monicagaion9968
    @monicagaion9968 10 місяців тому +95

    Hi, listen JINJER/VORTEX......A MASTERPIECE!!!!!

    • @2Chua
      @2Chua 10 місяців тому +5

      Second that, Vortex!

  • @valeriududau3218
    @valeriududau3218 10 місяців тому +9

    please try Nightwish - Ghost Love Score live at Wacken - symphonic metal....

  • @Bobbias
    @Bobbias 10 місяців тому +3

    In interviews Tati talked about how she spent a long time perfecting her growls because she wanted to sound like the male singers who growled. Usually women who do harsh vocals have a distinct quality from having a naturally higher voice, but she decided she didn't like that sound and spent ages working out how to sound more like a male vocalist doing growls. It's wildly impressive.

  • @Harbor-S
    @Harbor-S 10 місяців тому +20

    Glad to see another few have been snatched by Jinger! As vocal guys, I'm super surprised to not see any Nightwish, unless I missed it! I think yall will love them too, especially with vocal analysis. Nightwish Ghost Love Score Live from Wacken 2013 is my suggestion to start. The Nightwish Army can guide you from there! Sending blessings from Alabama!

  • @smavtmb2196
    @smavtmb2196 10 місяців тому +3

    Remember Pisces represents a duality. Just like Tatiana's vocals. She is a vocal beauty and beast. Very talented band. Every song is different, and get even better once you understand the meaning behind the lyrics.
    Definitely check out Perennial live at Wacken and Teacher Teacher official video.Fantastic song.
    Tatiana's vocal translations are seamless and mindboggling. So captivating.
    I also suggest Judgement and Punishment Tatiana's one take vocal performance version.

  • @jncharris
    @jncharris 10 місяців тому +9

    Love Jinjer and this reaction. Ghost love score by Nightwish (official video) is a must. I think you guys will love it

  • @badrasbury8171
    @badrasbury8171 10 місяців тому +12

    Teacher, Teacher is my personal favorite but Vortex, Pit of Consciousness liver in Kiev, I Speak Astronomy....all great. You have a nice format, music and vocals covered.

  • @jayhegener3028
    @jayhegener3028 10 місяців тому +22

    Paraphrasing here "The contrast between her clean singing and her growls is... exquisite." Indeed. It's the, to use your term, dichotomy that grabs me.

  • @paulriddle7818
    @paulriddle7818 10 місяців тому +34

    Another commenter mentioned Floor Jansen and the Symphonic Metal Nightwish. Shes one of the very best voices in metal by her peers. Shes insane. She can even do harsh vocals like Tatiana. THe song to check out is Ghost Love SCore live at Wacken 2013. Its a roller coaster that the both of you will absolutely love. She band and her are nutz.

    • @j.f.fisher5318
      @j.f.fisher5318 10 місяців тому +8

      Not a NW fan per se, but Ghost Love Score from Wacken is a must for any reaction channel.

    • @frankhermansen243
      @frankhermansen243 10 місяців тому

      I have the uttermost Respect for Floor.....But i have nerver heard she can do Harsh Vocal like Tatiana...she can Growl... but it's like saying, tatian can sing Clear tones, so she can sing like Floor

    • @paulriddle7818
      @paulriddle7818 10 місяців тому

      @frankhermansen243 ... OK how about her harsh are pretty darn impressive?

    • @paulriddle7818
      @paulriddle7818 10 місяців тому +1

      @frankhermansen243 Her Miserys no crime in 2014 was damn good.

    • @susanafonseca9370
      @susanafonseca9370 10 місяців тому

      😊😊😅😅😊😊😊😊😊😊😅😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

  • @danielbeck9310
    @danielbeck9310 10 місяців тому +8

    First time watching your channel, liked and subscribed. Please do more Jinjer. Now that you got the "shock value" song out of the way, you can discover how great this band really is. They have a deep catalog of incredible songs to dive into. Only 4 albums and 2 EPs, but considering just about every song on every album is very good, it's a pretty deep rabbit hole to explore. You wont be disappointed!

  • @salvatormund1
    @salvatormund1 10 місяців тому +2

    In "who is gonna be the One - Live" she goes way lower... and it is a great track too. "pit of consciousness (live in kiev) " is amazing too.... and many more.

  • @justinburhns328
    @justinburhns328 10 місяців тому +1

    I got to see them open for Disturbed, and it was amazing. The whole band is solid AF.

  • @paulriddle7818
    @paulriddle7818 10 місяців тому +25

    Perrenial Live at Wacken 2019 and you will how they sound at a huge festival.

  • @marcbaur677
    @marcbaur677 10 місяців тому +12

    And now think about a Woman who can do some deep growls, like Tatiana in this Video, and also can sing a Puccini Aria. Impossible? No, her Name is Floor Jansen, Leadsinger of the finnish Symphonic Metal Band Nightwish. You really should do a Reaction of Nightwish - Ghost Love Score, Live at Wacken 2013. Greetings from Germany. And of course i love Jinjer and Tatiana. 😃🍺

  • @UlyssisAcquillaSmith
    @UlyssisAcquillaSmith 10 місяців тому +6

    Good morning! Now im in for the first time! Yey! From the Philippines here, living in Colorado.

  • @thomaskellyjr6370
    @thomaskellyjr6370 10 місяців тому +20

    More Jinjer! Perennial live at Wacken, Judgement & Punishment one take vocal, Wallflower, Vortex, Disclosure, Teacher Teacher, Call Me A Symbol. Two good rip your face off tracks…Sit Stay Rollover and Mediator

    • @patrickfuller2423
      @patrickfuller2423 10 місяців тому

      who is going to be the one, is an incredible song as well

  • @pabloragusa
    @pabloragusa 10 місяців тому +13

    Hey guys, great reaction! Jinjer was the first group that made me not hate growling... and Tati being able to perform both ways of singing was something that I hadn't heard before! After going down that rabbit hole, my next one was Nightwish! And that is what I'd like to suggest to you... the song Ghost Love Score performed at Wacken 2013. So you get to experience Symphonic Metal and Floor Jansen at the forefront, who IMO is one of the most versatile and best singers in the world! 🤘🤘

    • @paulriddle7818
      @paulriddle7818 10 місяців тому +1

      2013 but close enough.

    • @taihavard
      @taihavard 10 місяців тому +1

      Want some more with both cleans and uncleans you might like (much more fun that usual metal :D of course you might know some of these already)
      All female vocalists, mostly all female bands, 3 out of 5.
      Hanabie - We Love Sweets MV
      Nemophila - Ama Te Ras
      Broken By The Scream -Sayonara Birthday
      Gacharic Spin - I WIsh I MV
      Passcode - Groundswell

    • @paulriddle7818
      @paulriddle7818 10 місяців тому

      @taihavard549 I only recognize the name Nemophila but I've never listened to them.
      There alot of amazing woman that can do amazing clean and harsh. Alissa White Gluz of Arch Enemy, Melissa Bonney of Ad Adfinium. That's just for starters.

    • @taihavard
      @taihavard 10 місяців тому +1

      @@paulriddle7818 Yup
      Have been enjoying the women who can do uncleans more than the guys recently.
      For instance I have usually found Metalcore a bit love hate because I loved the energy and uncleans, but often found the male clean vocal styles in that genre a bit... moany.
      But a mix of great uncleans and cleans that are more to my taste, plus many of the bands being all female leading to quite different lyrics and energy (up beat, fun) has been grabbing me.
      All of those are worth checking out, I bet at least a few might hit for you.
      Arch Enemy are great, and Alissa, especially that song with Nita Strauss.

    • @pabloragusa
      @pabloragusa 10 місяців тому

      @@paulriddle7818 yup, fixed it! Thanks

  • @stevelloyd6940
    @stevelloyd6940 10 місяців тому +5

    Wow what can I say - That's something new and extraordinary you you have introduced me to yet again.
    Great performance from Jinjer AND the band.

    • @ericpeterson7512
      @ericpeterson7512 10 місяців тому

      Welcome to the Jinjer Army my friend! They are Jinjer, she is Tatiana. They're all amazing at their instruments, including Tati, whose voice is an incredible instrument in its own right.
      I hope you check out more Jinjer. You won't be disappointed. And if you're like me, they'll quickly become one of, if not your favorite band. They're that good! Enjoy!

  • @lisaprince6996
    @lisaprince6996 10 місяців тому +1

    This song brought me to your channel. I thoroughly enjoyed this reaction and now I’m off to check out more of your videos! Perhaps you’ll get a new subscriber! Great reaction, guys!

  • @ericpeterson7512
    @ericpeterson7512 10 місяців тому +1

    Excellent reaction guys! I'm new to your channel, but not to Jinjer, or to Jinjer reaction videos. Instant sub and like. I like your discernment. Good combo of vocal understanding/appreciation and compositional knowledge. And that's all put to good use with Jinjer!
    More Jinjer please! You can't go wrong anywhere you turn. They're just all good. I'm a pro musician and singer for 45+ years, and these guys excite me like few bands have. Their sound is amazing. Their musicianship is off the charts. Their tightness and cohesion is almost superhuman, like a flock of birds all changing direction at once. Their live passion and precision are legendary and thrilling. Their professionalism is impeccable. They blend multiple genres. And they're unpredictable; there's a surprise in almost every song, like old school breakfast cereals lol. The songwriting is captivating. Great reaction fodder.
    Jinjer is both a fine wine and a gateway drug. I never enjoyed harsh vocals until Tatiana. She's stoked an appetite for more, and I've discovered a whole world of amazing bands. Maybe none quite as great as Jinjer, but nonetheless excellent. I've found a special affinity with women who can both sing and scream beautifully. Spiritbox, Arch Enemy, Ankor, Future Palace, Vintersea, Infected Rain, Hanabie, Lutharo, Rage of Light, and many others. And my new favorite: IKINÄ from Finland, featuring not one but TWO killer badass female singer/screamers in Katariina and Tuuli. They can do it all in perfect harmony, and they front an amazing band. Check out their video for Rituaali--but it's just the tip of the iceberg. The latest album is heavy, dark and djenty ala Spiritbox's latest (though it came out earlier) but all three albums are packed with banger after banger.

  • @rubentullenaar2934
    @rubentullenaar2934 10 місяців тому +3

    Check out “Judgement and Punishment” next. Also, I am surprised you have not reacted to Nightwish yet, “Ghost Love Score” live at Wacken Open Air 2013.

  • @VitaminJay12
    @VitaminJay12 10 місяців тому +1

    Vortex, Teacher Teacher & Judgment & Punishment (the one vocal take vid) would all be great for next up, but theres a lot more great options too, you could go for a while with this band!

  • @kennethmcspadden3800
    @kennethmcspadden3800 10 місяців тому +1

    I Speak Astronomy by Jinjer is absolutely amazing.

  • @throga
    @throga  10 місяців тому +32

    Thank you for all of the comments and suggestions!! We have a ton of songs on our to-do list but just wanted you to know that we WILL be circling back to react to another Jinjer song!! Thank you all for your patience - we’re excited to hear more :)

    • @jonnehhhh
      @jonnehhhh 10 місяців тому +1

      I hope Nightwish is on that list! If you enjoy Jinjer you’ll love them.

    • @RIPALT_EDM
      @RIPALT_EDM 9 місяців тому +2

      The story in the lyrics is an important part of the songs vocal choices.
      _I had no idea how 'tragically brutal' the story was until I read the lyrics in detail...the ending, just wow._

    • @fadihamze86
      @fadihamze86 8 місяців тому

      greyen- mergingmoon

  • @OsefKincaid
    @OsefKincaid 10 місяців тому +1

    A logical follow up for this song is the one take performance of Circle With Me - Spiritbox

  • @rjs722
    @rjs722 10 місяців тому +11

    😂😂😂😂. The first time being introduced to a band by Richard and Johnny. Very interesting. Likely not one I would have found myself. Wow the differences in her voice. The band is really good. I think I have to listen to more before deciding.

    • @danielbeck9310
      @danielbeck9310 10 місяців тому +3

      I discovered Jinjer through a reaction video two years ago, and they've been my favorite band ever since. Going to see them live for the 3rd time, in April. This song is just the tip of the iceberg. Their entire catalog is just one banger after another.

    • @ericpeterson7512
      @ericpeterson7512 10 місяців тому +2

      @@danielbeck9310i second that emotion. Same story. I had never been a fan of harsh or extreme vocals. This song changed my world in the best possible way. They've become my favorite band since Rush retired. Their catalog is that consistently good. Their musicianship and passion are that strong. Their live ethic has that integrity. Their chemistry is that perfect. BTW, I saw Rush 36x. I hope to see Jinjer as many times. I'm at 2 so far as well. Their live performances are purely epic.
      I'm jealous if you have tickets for April, that must mean Milwaukee, Vegas or Arizona. The only three American dates they've announced. I'm strongly considering the long trip from Alabama to Wisconsin or Arizona. My drummer went to Sick New World last year and that's a hard pass for me. But both those others are exactly the right kind of gig for Jinjer. Headlining, not supporting. Smallish but classy venue. General admission. You'll have every chance to get right up close to the GOATs and maybe even make eye contact with the Queen. It's an experience not to be forgotten. And it opened up a whole new world of music for me. Jinjer is an awesome gateway drug!

    • @danielbeck9310
      @danielbeck9310 10 місяців тому +1

      @ericpeterson7512 yeah, I'm going to the Milwaukee show. I plan on getting there early to get up front on the rail. I was up front both times I've seen them so far, and was incredible both times. First time I saw them, in Minneapolis, I did the meet & greet, so got to meet them and get a photo with them, which is now framed on my wall, lol.This show was originally scheduled last September, but got postponed due to travel issues. So, it's been a long wait. The original show was scheduled on my birthday, so it was kind of a gut punch when it got cancelled. They're not scheduling any more shows in the spring because they're in the studio working on a new album. Hopefully, they'll add some dates in September/October, because they'll be back in the States for Aftershock and Louder Than Life. After that they're already booked the rest of the year for tours in Europe and South America.

    • @ericpeterson7512
      @ericpeterson7512 10 місяців тому +1

      @@danielbeck9310 yeah that's what I'm afraid of, that they won't have any more American shows this year. If I'm gonna see Jinjer as many times as I saw Rush, I'm gonna have to get to work! I'm 61, and I saw Rush 36x lol. I'm only on 2 with Jinjer. Do the math lol.
      I was up close to the rail at both of my shows. Close enough to make eye contact with the band. It's a real privilege to see a band this good, up that close. Rush quickly got beyond my range as they started headlining arenas. I was only able to see them up close a few times. It gets expensive! It's so great you can still do that with Jinjer, often for like $30! I've checked out that venue in Milwaukee, it looks great. It's a long trip from Alabama, but I might have to do it.

    • @danielbeck9310
      @danielbeck9310 10 місяців тому

      @ericpeterson7512 I'm driving 5 hours to Milwaukee, coming from Minnesota. That's about my limit. Any farther than that, I'll just have to wait until they come around again, lol.

  • @johnlombardi1161
    @johnlombardi1161 10 місяців тому +2

    I am 62 and I flew from California to Ohio to see jibjer with my son in’21 🔥🔥🤟
    Must do no hoard of value, pit of consciousness ( live Kiev )

    • @ElizabathRafifar
      @ElizabathRafifar 10 місяців тому

      Good for you. I'm a senior too and like Zhou Shen as well a Jinger. Ren is a great performer and music very unusual.

  • @allendesalme197
    @allendesalme197 10 місяців тому +5

    They made this video to highlight the drummer and it went crazy - it is the one everyone wants reactors to watch first when entering the Jinjer rabbit hole

  • @2Chua
    @2Chua 10 місяців тому +4

    Nice drop, guys thanks!

  • @75gobrien
    @75gobrien Місяць тому +1

    the drums are live, everything else is a stripped down version of the studio recording, but that doesn't really take anything from the performance. They are all fantastic musicians and Tati is my favorite vocalist in metal today

  • @2Chua
    @2Chua 10 місяців тому +4

    Congratulations guys, 125k subscribers woohoo!

    • @EllanaTs
      @EllanaTs 10 місяців тому +1

      126K already! 🥳

  • @tomekd789
    @tomekd789 10 місяців тому

    Few points worth noting:
    - The mic type. It shows that the growl is actually not very loud, just very much amplified
    - This *is* partially prerecorded, you can hear layering there, added to the scream and to the regular voice (e.g. she's whispering in some moment)
    - Belting up to F5 is a tell-tell sign that she's using her voice correctly
    Great explanation of how the growl is produced!

  • @MLuxemburg
    @MLuxemburg 10 місяців тому +1

    🔥Welcome to Jinjer, Richard and Johnny! I just found your channel, great reaction (I loved seeing Richard on a happy roller-coaster and Johnny's shock to the depths of hell 😅), subbed! Thank you for bringing the fantastic genre twisting music of Jinjer to more people! I love their energy, how tight they are, the heaviness mixed with complexity and groove, beautiful singing and growling and especially Tatiana's lyrics!
    The first time I heard Pisces in 2019 I hadn't liked any metal with growling and it took me a few listens to start liking it, but now Tatiana is my favorite vocalist and Jinjer my favorite band (Pisces has been my wake up alarm for a few years and I still love it more every time I hear it).
    TLDR: skip to the last paragraph 😂
    Sorry for the long comment, I just love Jinjer too much and love seeing people discover (and usually fall in love with) them and each of their songs!
    My three favorite comments about Jinjer that I've seen, "terrifying levels of talent", "I hate it when a Jinjer song ends", and "that was more unexpected than my first child" 🤣
    All four current members of Jinjer have essentially no formal musical training except Vlad the drummer who studied classical piano. For most of their songs, the three guys write most of the instrument music, then Tatiana writes most of the lyrics and melodies (she gets tons of well deserved credit hfor her vocal and stage performance abilities, but maybe not quite enough for her lyrical and musical composition abilities). Roman the guitarist has written a lot of the instrument music in the past, so he's a huge part of the beautiful sound of Jinjer, but Vlad the drummer (who also plays guitar and classical piano, but so far not in most Jinjer songs - I think he played piano in lainnereP) has been writing more of it and wrote nine of the eleven songs for the latest album Wallflowers. Eugene composes some - he wrote the instrument music for one song on Wallflowers and a few songs on other albums, and I know that apart from his amazing work on the bass, he adds riffs and has written lyrics for a few Jinjer songs.
    Jinjer has been a tour-heavy band, touring almost nonstop from 2013 to 2020 and much of the time since then (with interruptions by covid and the US backed coup/proxy war), hard work that has made them fantastic live performers. The band (all members have been Ukrainian, with Russian their first language) started in eastern Ukraine in 2009 as a group of three (then five) with none of the current members (they consider the official start of the band when Tatiana replaced the male vocalist and Roman joined as lead guitar 2009/2010), Vlad is the fifth drummer (joined in 2016) and it's been a group of four since 2015 (though they consider their road sound engineer Sasha to be a fifth member). I think they're still friends with all the former members and you can see their former guitarist turned actor, Dmitry Oksen, in older videos on guitar and a more recent video (Disclosure) playing an interrogator.
    One of the things I love most about Jinjer is the messages in Tatiana's lyrics and the way she combines growling and beautiful singing with Jinjer's fantastic instrumentals to be so powerful for expressing the anger and pain in those messages: the anti-war message in Home Back, the anti-greed in On The Top, Mediator and No Hoard Of Value (also the horror of the coal mining industry in their home Ukraine), the protest song Who Is Gonna Be The One, the anti-fascism of Sit Stay Roll Over, the anger at people being narrow minded in Teacher Teacher and Judgment & Punishment, the struggles with mental health in Pit Of Consciousness, Vortex, Wallflower and Perennial, the giving voice to mother nature angry at humanity for letting capitalism destroy her in a bunch of songs like Ape, The Prophecy, Cloud Factory, Noah, Outlander and Bad Water. Other favorites are I Speak Astronomy, Retrospection, Words of Wisdom, Just Another, Captain Clock, Scissors, Exposed As A Liar, I Want It I'll Get It, A Plus Or A Minus, Dip A Sail, When Two Empires Collide, lainnereP, Prologue and Beggar's Dance (those last two are short album bookends that could do well together in one reaction if you're so inclined).
    I haven't found a Jinjer song I don't love, so I think you can't go wrong if you choose any of them, but a few good choices might be Perennial (official and/or live at Wacken, both are must-see), Teacher Teacher (official), Judgement & Punishment (official and/or Tatiana's one take performance, again both must-see), Pit of Consciousness (official and/or live in Kiev/Kyiv, a third where both are absolutely must-see) or the heartwrenching plea against war in Home Back (official video).
    Thank you, Richard and Johnny! I hope you'll keep trying out more Jinjer songs and enjoy! ❤🖤🤘

  • @Rackelhane
    @Rackelhane 10 місяців тому +1

    Great reaction again guys. You got your selfs a new subscriber. Cheers from a finn in Sweden.🎉

  • @richardhall6034
    @richardhall6034 10 місяців тому +2

    Hi from the UK 🇬🇧 something you might like to check out the band is called Nightwish it's a symphonic metal band from Finland 🇫🇮 with a Dutch singer floor jansen ( the vakyrie) This band has a massive following in Europe and the Internet the go to song to start your Nightwish journey is
    Nightwish ghost love score wacken open air concert 2013 official music video
    And prepare for the Nightwish army arriving at the door 🚪 lol 😊

  • @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
    @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 10 місяців тому +11

    Ah..you meet the Mistress of Sudden light and Darkness.. The whole band
    are total craft Meister's as you have seen but the Tatiana small and introverted has entire Star systems within her.
    That she can switch and run between her voices, is her incredible gift and she might well be the origin of all such inspiration.
    The band have special cultural status.. as performing ambassadors to their home, Ukraine.
    May I suggest, Teacher Teacher as a follow up..😎👍🏼 Slava ....🧙🏼‍♂️🇬🇧

  • @treboriaandevries6193
    @treboriaandevries6193 Місяць тому +1

    this is defenately love at first scream!

  • @Friskee62
    @Friskee62 10 місяців тому +3

    I finally got to see JINJER Aug. 12, 2023 in Syracuse, NY...amazing.

  • @sebastiendominique666
    @sebastiendominique666 7 місяців тому

    The drum set the beat, the guitar set the mood, the bass make the narative and the sing expression the whole!

  • @onearthonelegion
    @onearthonelegion 10 місяців тому +3

    Wintersun - Sons of Winter and Stars (Live @ Sonic Pump)

  • @navarropuff187
    @navarropuff187 10 місяців тому +1

    ooooh.... Tatiana......😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

  • @isabela314
    @isabela314 10 місяців тому +1

    This band is amazing! ❤😅

  • @fcza4346
    @fcza4346 10 місяців тому +1

    Jinjer's mexican fan here 🇲🇽🇲🇽
    Please react to their song On the top, live in Kiev

  • @dancingkitty11
    @dancingkitty11 2 місяці тому +1

    One band that I didn't see here in my short search, is Arch Enemy with Alyssa (current singer) or Angela (prev singer) If you want women who growl, you have to check them out...

  • @Wombatmetal
    @Wombatmetal 10 місяців тому +8

    Ah, Tati. Note that this is not her "normal" clean voice; she intentionally sounded lighter? breathy? She emulated a different style to make her harsh vocals pop in the chorus. She knows her voice. She is self taught.
    Another good growler is Alyssa White-Gluz of Arch Enemy. And Mayu of Nemophila, though she is higher in range

    • @Fenthule
      @Fenthule 10 місяців тому

      You missed Courtney LaPlante from Spiritbox

    • @ericpeterson7512
      @ericpeterson7512 10 місяців тому +1

      Good catch that this is not her normal clean voice. It's softer, breathier, smoother. And the contrast is more stark than usual, which makes it perfect both for the song and for reactors.
      I second the motion on Alissa, Mayu and Courtney! Also check out Brittney from Unleash the Archers, Jessie from Ankor, Maria from Future Palace (try Malphas) and my new favorite: IKINÄ from Finland, with two amazing badass female singer/screamers, Katariina and Tuuli, who do it all in perfect harmony. Their video for Rituaali is the tip of the iceberg! Three albums of greatness.

  • @jeffwellman2883
    @jeffwellman2883 4 місяці тому +1

    Great reaction (Subbed)

  • @steveb1972
    @steveb1972 7 місяців тому

    I’ve watched DOZENS of responses to this. I applaud you guys that you’re probably only the fifth that have talked about the false folds!👏🏻

  • @reveillepimp
    @reveillepimp 10 місяців тому +1

    Great reaction to this song and awesome commentary. Such a great song--Tati gives me vibes of Otep.

  • @NikkOfAllTradesLLC
    @NikkOfAllTradesLLC 10 місяців тому +1

    I love metal!!

  • @djl3485
    @djl3485 10 місяців тому +1

    You should watch the video from The Charismatic Voice where they took the lead singer of Lorna Shore and had a camera put down his throat to see what is going on when they do screams, growls, etc.

  • @somedude5414
    @somedude5414 10 місяців тому +1

    It was my first time here.

  • @craigmccuistian
    @craigmccuistian 10 місяців тому +1

    And, Pisces is Jinjer for beginners. Wait til you get to some other stuff! My current favorite is Vortex. Judgement and Punishment one take is the best second step listen. It’s good for analyzing, understanding and geeking. Also, Teacher Teacher is a good next listen. It’s a concert compilation video.

  • @SteveSmith-os5bs
    @SteveSmith-os5bs 10 місяців тому +4

    Jinjer always does their best work live.

  • @BenjaminFranceMusic
    @BenjaminFranceMusic 9 місяців тому

    I absolutely LOVE this reaction! You guys gained a new subscriber with your reactions! Too fun!!!!

  • @nathanchandler6257
    @nathanchandler6257 8 місяців тому

    This was an absolute joy to watch, my favourite reaction video. Loved it guys. This performance is one of my absolute favs alongside alongside queens live performance of somebody to love in montreal. The demonstration of talent vocally and the band is of the chart. A truly great performance

  • @robinc7235
    @robinc7235 10 місяців тому +1

    I love you two and am looking forward to your trip to Budapest for you!

  • @jefflincoln1374
    @jefflincoln1374 10 місяців тому +1

    I love the way you 2 do this of this one. I will say that teacher teacher is my favorite. I would also suggest that you look at the warning 3 sisters from Mexico

  • @Amrah75
    @Amrah75 6 днів тому

    Today my world expanded. She's amazing and that band is on point!

  • @themandodad
    @themandodad 3 місяці тому

    When I was living in Jakarta-Indonesia at the British International School. The advanced teacher I had was a conductor for the London Symphony Orchestra once. He brought me out of piano into the percussion orchestra world for the school (due to lack of them). But this is the clinger, he was dabling into training me like how this drummer for Jinjer was, he was also an ex classical pianist. My mind was VERY hyped when I got introduced to Jinjer 6 years ago. 🤯🥳

  • @dromen2001
    @dromen2001 9 місяців тому

    You guys are so fun and knowledgeable. Also, your reaction to her voice change was delightful to watch. I will be watching more of your channel going forward!! Also I am loving listening to you talk about the different folds and how they work. Super fascinating!

  • @kellie7180
    @kellie7180 10 місяців тому

    Sooooo talented! I can never get enough of this. And yesssss to Perennial Live at Wacken. Incredible!

  • @yulia_ps
    @yulia_ps 10 місяців тому

    I’m so glad you’ve watched them! 😊🫶🏼

  • @arklytte
    @arklytte 9 місяців тому

    I really love that you both made a point of praising the band, in addition to Tati. Jinjer is an AMAZING band, some of the best modern metal, and they are ALL incredible musicians.

  • @elhefe83
    @elhefe83 7 місяців тому

    I love how you went well beyond the obvious shocking twist to look into the actual song. Great reaction.

  • @neoplan6116
    @neoplan6116 10 місяців тому +3

    You guys a great, it makes real fun to look your vids! Regarding Jinjer: after this total distraction by the first encounter with Tati and this fantastic musicians - take also a look at the lyrics, they have the same quality as anything else regarding the band!

  • @chadvarnell1889
    @chadvarnell1889 7 місяців тому

    There is SO MUCH MORE!!! You NEED to keep going... More JINJER... 💙💛🌻☠❤🤍💙

  • @jameswarner5809
    @jameswarner5809 10 місяців тому +4

    The time signature flips between 7/8 and 6/8. That's nothing, though. Their song I Speak Astronomy goes through four time signatures in the first minute!
    If you're interested in more, but different, female pyrotechnic vocals, may I suggest Way Too Long by contemporary prog band Bent Knee, fronted by Courtney Swain.

  • @RIPALT_EDM
    @RIPALT_EDM 9 місяців тому

    Great breakdown on the technical vocal aspects.
    {Subbed}

  • @jjohn464
    @jjohn464 10 місяців тому +2

    Not a fan of “screamo” vocals but I do enjoy me some Jinger. Tatiana is an amazing vocalist backed by incredible musicians.
    May I make a suggestion for something totally different? Check out The Warning - the 3 Villarreal sisters from Mexico. I’ve been following their musical development for about 7 years. They now have 3 albums under their belt and a 5 album deal with Lava Records. Nothing complex about their song structures but full of great riffs and hooks. Straight forward rock. I’ve seen them 2x and they are fantastic live. They’ve opened for FooFighters, Muse, GnR, Halestorm and others. I think they’re the future of rock. Want to see you agree.

    • @spaceknave
      @spaceknave 10 місяців тому

      Second The Warning

  • @terrydavis7389
    @terrydavis7389 10 місяців тому

    i finally got to see them live a few months ago, they did not disappoint

  • @80summerrae
    @80summerrae 10 місяців тому +1

    I love your new intro ❤❤

  • @JeffJacquesmd
    @JeffJacquesmd 9 місяців тому

    I discovered Tati and Jinjer about 7 months ago during a late night listening session.
    I never get tired of seeing reactions to this specific song, given its soft almost pop like “chill” sections.
    Her vocal control is astounding.

  • @candybanks8717
    @candybanks8717 10 місяців тому

    I've heard not less than a hundred reactions to this video. This is probably my favorite and definitely the most fun!

  • @leonardvandergriff6241
    @leonardvandergriff6241 10 місяців тому

    Seen jinjer twice and met them once they are even more amazing live her changes are flawless and not to even mention how amazing the entire band is live you will always be in shock and awe and love it everytime

  • @LydianMelody
    @LydianMelody 6 місяців тому

    You can have an augmented 4. Like in, just for a completely random example, a lydian melody 😏. The 5th remains in its normal place while the 4th is sharp. The context of which one changed can tell what the difference is, even though they’re the same pitch.

  • @k1k2voyer
    @k1k2voyer 10 місяців тому +6

    I am laughing already, awaiting the response...😂

  • @drummerseb
    @drummerseb 10 місяців тому +1

    The verse is in 7/8 a pattern of 4 followed by a pattern of 3

  • @wolfangel369
    @wolfangel369 10 місяців тому +1

    The whole band is so tight..awesome ❤❤❤

  • @GranTurismoJunky
    @GranTurismoJunky 10 місяців тому

    This was such a great video, love learning more about the art of singing. If you want to check out some more Jinjer, you have my vote to give Mediator a go. That song is really one big flex from the whole band on all of their talent, and Tatiana’s vocals shine bright

  • @jonnehhhh
    @jonnehhhh 10 місяців тому +3

    You need to listen to Nightwish - Ghost Love Score Wacken 2013

  • @Billie_evcs
    @Billie_evcs 10 місяців тому

    So happy for you to discover my favorite band, listen to her in the live shows, like perenial at wacken, teatcher teatcher, pit of consciosness live at kiev, captain clock at ressurection fest, or other musics. You can choose any music from this band and all are great

  • @mwmiller1980
    @mwmiller1980 10 місяців тому +1

    If you are in bewilderment of how low she can get you should check out Vortex. My favorite song is Perennial.

  • @KaefShi
    @KaefShi 10 місяців тому +1

    I also recommend to read a little of the bands background, and listen to their song "Homeback", really deep, powefull song and the last lows of Tatiana... wooww

  • @TravfromTO
    @TravfromTO 10 місяців тому

    I saw Jinjer on their last tour through Toronto. Killer show. If they come to your town, I highly recommend going. You won't be disappointed. Sounds even better live.🤘🤘

  • @mikebunner3498
    @mikebunner3498 9 місяців тому

    Men,
    My first time visiting your two channel. Jinjer is the band. The lady singing is Tatiana. A couple of key points they are from the Ukraine and English is not their/her primary language. A hint when the drummer switches over to rim shots, business is about to pick up!!! This ladies vocal skills are special. She figured out how to do this by herself!!! I have seen people become frightened by her growl. It took a while for me to realize the band members are good also. I guess I was focused on that good looking singer!!!
    I shall submit to you two that this group is the best thing EVER to come out of the former U.S.S.R. By far the best!!!!!! Her stage presence is unmatched! Men you may want to locate and review their sit at Wacken Music festival. There are videos of her speaking and showing her stage makeup. And she is interviewed by Elizabeth of the Charismatic Voice. ALSO
    Miss Christina Russo an opera singer formally trained singer is trying to learn how to do this. it is a funny video...
    Men I agree with you this is WOW!!!! Thank you gentlemen!!!! This was FUN......... Wacken.

  • @snakecharm13
    @snakecharm13 10 місяців тому

    Hey Richard! It’s Janet and Laura! I didn’t know you did reactions! You just popped on randomly for me. My special request is my fave new artist named Ren. He had the #1 album in the uk when it came out in October. Really any song he does is so unique. Most start with Hi Ren. I’d love for you to see him perform with Chinchilla on How To Be Me live.

  • @sebrina8057
    @sebrina8057 10 місяців тому +1

    Seconded. Teacher Teacher is my all-time favorite, Judgement & Punishment one- take is phenomenal.

  • @JesterTBP
    @JesterTBP 4 місяці тому

    This was great!! I can kinda scream and felt the visceral change in my vocal folds as I moved up and down. I did that for like 20 minutes lmao