Ukraine war: Germany under pressure to explain intercepted phone call | BBC News
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- Germany is scrambling to explain how audio of air force officials apparently discussing giving Ukraine long-range missiles was leaked by Russian sources.
Details of alleged British operations on the ground in Ukraine are also mentioned.
Russia's state-run RT channel posted an audio recording of the meeting last week.
The breach has sparked major concerns about Germany's security among allies, including France and the UK.
German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has repeatedly ruled out sending the Taurus missiles to Ukraine.
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How is it disinformation if they are NOT denying the authenticity of the recording?
They have admitted it
O. You have a spelling mistake.
Haven’t you got it yet? The BBC call anything ‘disinformation’ that doesn’t align with their proWar Woke ideology.
Everything that doesn't suit the narrative is disinformation these days and if you disagree with the narrative, you are a Putin sympathiser or Kremlin's agent.
Calling it disinformation is actual disinformation.
This war actually started in 2014...
Exactly, when Russia armed bandits and terrorists in Eastern Ukraine. Why don't they broadcast about that
yep...ask Vicky Nuland and the CIA
When Russia gave weapons to separatist?,comon
It started a long time before that, really...
@@Por0no thing wrong for that NATO did the same
That’s means civilians targeted at the Sunday market, in Donbas was done by British soldiers. This means the Army, I served is committing war crimes.
Nothing new there mate, we are not squeaky clean, Julian Assange will tell you that.
Britain comitting war crimes, who would've thought! Never happened before
So you ban RT but use recording from the site
Not to mention that BBC hosts never fail to point out that RT is 'state-run' while working for a state-funded media org themselves
What do you expect from the notorious British propaganda news network which by the way is also state funded
Yep, hypocrites alright. And of course Russia banning some media is "bad", but for the UK to ban Russian media, that's ok... you can't make this up!
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You missed the point that they talked about blowing up the kirch bridge
This whole conversation doesn't matter because they already said multiple times no to Taurus delivery to Ukraine.
@@Joey-ct8bm this scandal is intentional. Because now that the German people know their military officials have been caught discussing such topics it will scare the moderate germans to be more cautious on the Ukraine issues. Meaning the public opinion of the Germans will match the cautiousness of Scholz.
The comments are more informative than the BBC report.👍
He did mention that... 0:20 did you even watch the video?
You mean the cherry brandy bridge or the one from Russia to Crimean?
German response:So bad that they are spying on us....that's violation of privacy!!!!😂😂🤣🤣🤣
I'm still not sure if the tapping of the phone call wasn't a feint. Maybe the Russians should listen to the phone call. Feed the “enemy” with false information is nothing new.
Bad Putin 😂
And then they proceed to Iaugh in the face of the Namibians they subjjgated to gnoclde by continuing to encourage another one to take place. Truly such a shamefuI nation.
Uhm no. That’s not at all what the German response was. Why are you lying like that? The German response was that the Russians leaked the audio out of context, commented on it completely derailed from the actual context and deliberately left out some sentence and words in their ˋleaking‘ in order to paint a picture that is different from what actual has been the content of that conversation. The Germans also started a probe into how such a leak could happen and found out that it was due to one officer joining that meeting from an insecure line in a Singaporean hotel.
@@TD1237Every thing that you have said in your sentence is completely made up and fairy tale. You are the one who is shameful. The fact hat you have to make up so much in order to be able to insult the Germans speaks volumes. Also the Germans should be glad that such a despicably lying person such as yourself is calling them shameful. 😂
They were also discussing that French British are already in Ukraine and involved in the missile and drone strikes on Russia and assets,
The british, yes. The french are not mentioned in the call.
Why is BBC not talking about the other aspects of the leak, Germany, UK and France have troops in Ukraine
Germany does not have troops in Ukraine, if we had troops there, there would be no reason to not sent Taurus.
@@Eragon2679Who do we believe, you or the audio leak?...if the leak says Germany has troops in Ukraine why are you denying?
@@Eragon2679 Except that we need them ourselves and that we want to keep control over target selection and that we don’t want to escalate the war into a bigger conflict between NATO and Russia.
You want to support Ukraine? Call for immediate negotiations, then...
Bunch of amateurs in the army, using webx to discuss war details. Some heads are gonna roll😂😂!
With 1234 as the password 😂
@@havanasyndrome3024abcd1234
Even my company doesn't consider Webex secure. They banned it. Meanwhile Germans:
Viruses on their PCs.
I remember having to use Webx for some company training. Absolute dogshite software, uninstalled immediately afterwards.
What a complete load of old tosh.
The vast majority of NATO members already have troops on the ground in the Ukraine and they've been working alongside their forces since 2015.
To pretend otherwise is nonsense.
So NATO have been directly involved in this conflict for 2 years already. Now at least we can call it what it is.
WW3
many brit mercs/contactors been there since 2015 too
What rubbish. Lets not mistake volunteers for NATO forces. NATO has effectively NOT been involved in Ukraine else we would notice wouldn't we. It would be a bit obvious wouldn't it ?
@@TimMountjoy-zy2fdThen you need to argue with Stoltenberg who has openly said last year that NATO has been actively involved in Ukraine since 2015.
@TimMWhy not say mercenaries?ountjoy-zy2fd
Ukraine is in no state to win the war.
Whatever you do, don't mention the coup!
What coup?
Ah, stop being so honest. Allow the clueless clowns to swim in their river of delusions.
The one CIA and NATO instigated in Ukraine in 2014! The act that started this war…
@@foreignofficeclub5815 The 2014 coup in Ukraine that nobody seems to know about.
@@JoemccxcI know. Russia violated the Budapest Agreement of 1994, where they accepted Ukraine’s borders, when Putin invaded Crimea and Eastern Ukraine
I've never heard so many lies and mistruths.
you must be a casual ruzzian propaganda consumer then. which is funny, cause you have !
Yes from Russia
@@Saadking47Even a duck has better IQ than you.
@@Saadking47how?
Adolf Heusinger, Hitler's Chief of Staff, became Chairman of the NATO Military Committee, 1961-1964
Hans Speidel, Rommel's Chief of Staff, became Commander in Chief of NATO Forces Central Europe, 1957-1963
Johannes Steinhoff, Luftwaffe fighter ace, became Chairman of the NATO Military Committee, 1971-1974
Johan von Kielmansegg, General Staff Officer Wehrmacht High Command, became NATO Commander Allied Forces Central Europe, 1966-1968
Ernst Faber, Lt Col Wehrmacht General Staff, became Commander in Chief NATO Forces Central Europe, 1973-1975
Karl Schnell, First General Staff Officer 76th Panzer Corps, became Commander in Chief NATO Forces Central Europe, 1975-1977
Franz-Joseph Schulze, Senior Lieutenant Luftwaffe, became Commander in Chief NATO Forces Central Europe, 1977-1979
Ferdinand von Senger und Etterlin, Adjutant Wehrmacht High Command, became Commander in Chief NATO Forces Central Europe, 1979-1984
Much more serious was the Chancellor’s public comments that revealed potential sensitive information about allies.
Is putins fault
Nothing the Russians do not already know.
@@richard8000obviously, but that's beside the point. Loose lips sink ships...
BBC 😂 cost of living crisis but still blackmailed into paying for a tv licence 😂
That is, the main problem for you is that these idiots were wiretapped. And not that these idiots were going to take part in attacks on Russia?
Russia's take on this is completely accurate though isn't it? The BBC confirn it then try and spin the facts straight away.
How dare Putin try to "exploit" the fact that he has discovered a plot against Russia?🤣 BBC is a propaganda outfit, not a news channel
@@alvinasun8055it was they were just using wartime codewords. It's in 8 months time if you want to attend
Russia needs to remember that NATO is helping Ukraine in exactly the same way as Soviet Russia (USSR) helped North Vietnam in the Vietnam War, and North Korea in the Korean War. So the Kremlin set the precedent in those wars - NATO is simply following the Soviet precedent. If it was OK for the USSR to do it, then it's OK for NATO to do it too.
@@timonsolus comments full of russian and Iranian trolls and bots spreading 💩 of Russia is good everyone else bad. You can't reason with them. End of the day Putin has been interfering all over the globe for his full term this far. What he wants is power and for a coalition of all the nutcases around the globe. Nobody thinks NATO or just America as a separate entity, is clean as a whistle but most would rather not have a lunatic like Putin running the show
@@timonsolusgermany wants to bomb crimea which is russian territory, thats the main difference idiot. Russian help vietnam defend but not attacking mainland america
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes!
It is interesting that the same people who seceded Kosovo from Serbia are talking about the sovereignty of Ukraine.
Its like you just realized 2 sides exist
What's interesting about that? Both Kosovans and Ukrainians have the right to self governance
@@joee8278Ukrainians have the right to ethnically cleanse?
@@alvinasun8055 Which choices are you referring to? The ones made under Russian occupation? But yes, the same can be applied and if people voted for independence from Ukraine (without Russian interference making referenda invalid) it should be honoured
@@alvinasun8055 No I haven't, have you?
The skill with which the old man delivers the lies is impressive. This is the reason why I seldom watch news on bcc, Sky or any other mainstream channels. He is effectively forcing stupidity down our throat.
And you know better, of course.
@@Maelli535He probably does know better, as do I. You obviously don't know better and get all of your world affairs from the British Bullshit Corporation the UK government mouthpiece 😂😂
Not to mention the host deliberately doesn't challenge those lies. . .and they call out Trump when he call them Fake New Media....
@@Bikemonkey7You'd be surprised how much more I know than both of you.
@@Maelli535 Well, we're never going to know who knows more than who, maybe we can have an arm wrestle or something, but it's highly unlikely that's going to happen, so we'll just have to leave it at that I think. 🤔
So basically.. Germany have been caught planning an act of terrorism
Haha, you are so smart, for a russian.
German wants another visit by the red army
@@ottomatic3123 you're so dumb , lemme guess. AMERICAN?
An act of war.
you’ve never heard of ‘Gladio’ ?
Intercepted by Russian shovels.
And microchips from washing machines. "Russia's economy is in tatters". The collective West tells such crap lies.
Russia has an acute shortage of shovels and their landscapers have resorted to using weapons to dig holes. The army has asked the landscapers to donate the game changing devices as they continue to make gains across to frontline😅
British troops in Ukraine fighting Russia means NATO is directly involved in this conflict, which gives Russia the green light to strike strategic targets in the NATO territory!
Yup....extremely dangerous.
Ukraine has the right to ask for help against any aggressors invading their land.
They can try.
@@itsJPhere the have the right to ask and we the responsibility to say no direct involvement!!
@@itsJPhere__ Seems stupid your wish.. you want the human existence included you is been wiped from this planet..?
I wonder if the media or their handlers realise sometimes how much damage taking people for fools does?
right??? its just so ridiculous now how they are so out of touch. We have Brains for christs sake.
This reads like a Russian bot, something about the language used
@@Morcianhero bot my a s s, you are the bot
@@dareemmanuel6079 again mate that's not how westerners speak, try again
@@Morcianhero da comrade.
Berlin Will investigate itself instead of investigating nordstream
shhh...big Brother USA told them there was nothing to see there....
@@dennisrettke 🤫🤣
Funny how these experts suddenly flips the switch when it comes to the Palestine defending itself . How you can take any of these people seriously baffles the mind
Very well said!
Listening to this folks is like listening to music, it always sounds nice sometimes you can even repeat the song but its mainly for the listeners, nothing to do with the truth!
Palestine was offered a 2-state solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict many times, and refused.
@@timonsolusThat’s like offering something to someone which is already theres, makes no sense to most people and certainly not to the Palestinians.
@@Jason-dm7uh : Many Palestinians certainly believe that Israel is an illegal country and that all Jews in Palestine are illegal immigrants. But the United Nations General Assembly doesn’t agree with that view. It was the UN that first issued a resolution for a 2 state solution in 1947, before Israel even declared independence.
News update: Apparently Colonel Klink has apologized profusely.
"i know NOTHING" !
😂😂😂
You sir have shown your age😂
@@jusele-ox9rc Yes! guilty as charged 😜 ! Schultz was a character and I do miss those times , "c,est le vie " 😉.
Good one. I feel sorry for those who don't get it...they've missed out.
Verbal gymnastics.
You say it’s not NATO vs Russia but we can all see that it is
@@brutusduran8592NATO is funding the war. Ukrainian's are using NATO supplied weapons 🙃
@@brutusduran8592 That is just a blatant lie.
It's the US proxy vs. Russia. What do you think NATO is? Just the blood soaked US empire expanding their hassle states.
The recording goes on prove that British soldiers are attacking Russia using various weapons. Just imagine what it's like when Russian soldiers attack UK using weapons.
Germany is being very sensible about everything.
Just like in WW2....
UK and the US promised to defend Ukraine when they asked it to destroy the nuclear weapons some years ago. What UK did is just to keep the promise. A sensible person should do. Afraid of such a weak Russia only means NATO is rubbish, deserves to be conquered by Russia after it obtained Ukraine and become stronger later
If I remember correctly, they have occasionally come to the UK and used chemical weapons. What's the difference?
they promised, along with Russia, to protect Ukraine, something they are now doing, protecting Ukraine from Russia, you idiot@@mikes989
@@mikes989 Ukraine gave up its nukes on the promise that the UK and the US would guarantee its borders.
Hahaha being caught out!!! Liars and hypocrites!!!!
Only catching up to putin and his Kremlin pedophiles
I'm more concerned about UK troops fighting in ukraine which seems to be glossed over. Who authorised this and why no public enquiry?
because the British government are frothing at the mouth with hate for Russia and want to take every opportunity it can get to attack it.
"It would be much better if this didn't come out at all" For who? Why is the truth a negative to these people? Anyone who is against the truth is evil at heart.
they want money and power. They dont value the truth like we do. They are playing us, and we will die and our children not them. Nato is war criminal.
ha ha ha NATO is not fighting against Russia?????? What this man is smocking??????????
How can this be disinformation?
These days you can do stuff then just blame AI and say it was faked
The German officers also made matter of fact references to British military personnel committing acts of war against Russia, a country with which we are not at war.
This is, of course, illegal.
It is.
But good luck getting anyone with authority within Britain to admit that - let alone acknowledge the facts on the ground.
Again, this leak is 'alleged'. Until it is confirmed legitimate the recording might be Russian disinformation for all we know.
Every country engages in proxy wars. This changes nothing.
@mike_monotone Agreed! The reason why that ridiculous caricature of a British general was so emphatically denying it, is because he knows well that it is true.
If a Brit fires a Stormshadow in Ukraine, but takes off his Brit patch, is he still a Brit?
NATO needs to understand that playing Russian roulette with a nuclear superpower is never a good idea.
We have nukes too.
They said the same about going up against the Great Red Army ... but we know now how antiquated and obsolete it is. Russia will not use those weapons cuz it knows it will be the obliteration of it's own government.
@@Pemmont107 Bingo!
@@Pemmont107who are we? Germans don't. If Russia hurls some nukes at the Nazis do you seriously think the US will defend youv only to get obliterated also? 😂😂😂
You are on your own buddy.
@@havanasyndrome3024 If Putin was so confident in that, he'd have already tried.
Keep yapping, mate.
Why believes in BBC in any news after Covid circus?
The BBC have since the start of WW2 the order by British Goverment,to spreading the only TRUTH, which is in the interest of the British Goverment...They LIED for decades, they LIE now...
How about if , rather than "investigating" the leak, they explain the German's plans to attack the bridge itself? Or to attack it and try to deny responsibility? Or why they wanted to involve someone "with and American accent"?
Was it someone "with and American accent" who blew up the Nordstream pipeline? Why has Germany not investigated that economy-shattering event which has caused them to trash thousands of acres of farmland in the search for dirty coal?
Two officers, albeit high ranking, speculating about potential usage of Taurus, speculating over potential methods, is not "German's plans to attack the bridge". Armed forces are under civilian rule in most countries, officers are under command of high command.
And if it was, west is at war with Russia, isn't it?
The Kerch Bridge is in Crimea, internationally recognized as part of Ukraine except by Russia. Under international law, attacking it would not qualify as invading Russian soil. If Putin does think so, then he shouldn’t have invaded Crimea in the first place, would’ve spared him that headache.
"International law" got it's final nail in the coffin of it's credibility when International Clown Court convicted Putin with "genocide in form of mass kidnapping of underage" because of children being evacuated from the frontline. Imagine non-ironically referring to "international law" in 2024..
Shouldn’t we be focusing on why uk troops are secretly going to Ukraine to fight?
Cept from whats known is brit troops are trying to stop Ukarine hitting civilians
@@wolfder6661 I hope that you're right
@@dennisrettke yeah apparently The British troops there are there to make sure the missile attacks don't hit civilian infrastructure cuz apparently Ukarine seems to have problems aiming
“This is not a NATO versus mother Russia conflict in any shape or form…” 🤔
Obv you are delusional af but where do you see the nato troops? I didn't see them. So yeah however it would be allowed so it makes not even sense or actually proofs a point for Russia.
It's kinda funny to see national Russian propaganda, which was meant for Russians, picked up by ppl in the west. That's just hilarious
92 - Stop the War !!! Russia leave sovereign Ukrainian territory !!
Simple.
@@ericgrace9995"simple" "period" etc I just laugh when I see "defacto absolutism" words used at the end of silly comments .
@@ericgrace9995 yup👍👌
Its quite clear if NATO directly intervenes- that is brings all its might RF will not exist in its present form. Its army, Navy, Airforce have all been depleted and its lost the Baltics already.
After 80 years Germany still can’t be trusted.
no can uk
Germany has no obligation towards Ukraine
Agreed! Don't buy their cars.
@@jasperedwards2713 That will be £50 for using our language badly fool.
Speak for urself. lol Germany rules!
is the ukrainian counter offensive still gaining momentum 🤔
ABC Wave Correction 😂😂😂
Yes, only its headed westwards rather eastwards for some reason ;)
Maybe in 2025 they say
Taking the fight to the Polish border!
Take care of yourself bot
Blantant denial of western 'civilised' aggression and defence of anything anti-russian is a norm here but it has the potential to lead to wider conflict!
now youre worried about a larger conflict?
Well said! Absolutely hilarious! These people take the general population for being idiots. Unfortunately they're right about alot of people. It's unconscionable to me how people continuously buy these evidently corrupt contradictory narratives. Who blew up The Nord Stream? Russia! Lol! They get it wrong with all the wars but this one must the good one. Lol hilarious. Occupy a 3rd of Syria all the while waging all these wars and funding genocide, calling an apartheid ethnostate the only democracy in the region... One had to be very at least very dim-witted to buy any of this stuff.
You sure?? 99.9% lies nowadays so are u sure?
It has been independently verified, Germany has confirmed it is a genuine recording.
Are you sure you are not brainwashed? Get it checked out
You included ??
Unless they were led to believe otherwise, maybe the German officers knew they were communicating on an unsecured line and that was the point? It’s hard to believe they would have not known the high probability that their conversations would be overheard.
What like when presidents or prime minister's say something stupid when the mic's still on
It was a deliberate leak
I'm always not sure whether listening to the telephone conversation wasn't a feint. Maybe the Russians should listen to the phone call. Feeding the “enemy” false information is nothing new.
@@callsigndd9ls897yes they're fainting sending taurus, they're actually sending catapults. Good work germany
This is very dangerous escalation of this war. Looks like Europeans have forgotten the lesson of WW2 and want to have the same destruction once again in Western Europe. Germany is playing with fire and UK as well.
But you RuZZians are not of course.
and the US is happily prodding its proxies along, safely on the other side of the Atlantic.
Interesting....
When NATO members discussing the weapons they are sending to Ukraine, also some of them members (maybe all) but at least the U.K. are alleged to be running British operations on the ground in Ukraine.
Now according to "Lord Dannatt", it is acceptable for us to help Ukraine, but it is not acceptable to be involved in the conflict, and most of all, we must not say that this is an attack on Russia by NATO.
But, the way I see it, the UK is sending money, weapons and training as many as possible to fight in Ukraine.
Ukraine is not a member of NATO,
So really, from a neutral prospective.
You're training fighters, You're arming them, You're funding them, You're organizing operations on the ground within the conflict.
But we are not allowed to suggest,, "THIS IS NATO AT WAR WITH RUSSIA".
Well,
If it looks like cake, it feels like cake, it smells like cake & it tastes like cake......guess what!!!
I can still remember how Macron was calling for a "true European army" in 2018, to fend off those Russians, like he knew what was coming...
Amazing.
As a German: This is embarrassing. Our chancellor is obviously inundated with the responsibilities of the office.
He's not bad at all. Decades or wrong direction in energy and neglect of security he can't realistically turn around in 2 years. They are doing pretty well, Taurus is hocuspocus. What matters is the artillery ammo and the air defence missiles
@@gyorgygajdos1657 So you think weapons should continue flowing to Ukraine??
You mean the weapons of the Russians?
Heinrichvonwicker: You're thinking about Russian weapons?
Yeah it must be hard to be a coward, who won't openly admit that he is playing a part in attacking Russia, whilst saying out the other side of his mouth that it is Ukraine's war and the west is only providing weapons. Your whole country is a joke, you accepted the US blowing up your pipeline and now you buy gas at 4x the price, which will destroy industry and the economy. Baerbok would have to be one of the dumbest politicians in Germany, her immaturity and ignorance sticks out like a sore thumb. Her comment 'i don't care what the German voters want, were going to support Ukraine indefinitely' shows the level of her arrogance and disregard for German citizens. Next to Vicky Nuland, Baerbok has blood of half a million Ukrainian soldiers on her hands, a complete sociopath.
3:35 the old man is concerned about territorial integrity of a country called Ukraine. Did you care about Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and the others? He is fake. He talks about Ukraine and thinks about Russian wealth. British rulers in Eritrea dismantle a lot of things that the Italians build to sale it on the market.
And Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸 Double standard 😢
Do they need to explain anything the one who need to explain is BRITIAN FOR PARTICIPATING IN THE WAR BY SENDING TROOPS
F*** around with Russia and find out? This is insane.
To explain the intercepted call, Berlin should use Putin tactic: "It was A-I."
i could swear "it was ai" was just what everyone everywhere said about basically everything nowadays.
i love the "ai" anarchy ...heh,laymens idea of an ai, machine learning isn't particularly impressive I've seen quite a bit, nothing close to a true science fiction type ai has been made, some use neutered aspects,but none at full capacity in even one aspect much less dozens,hundreds, thousands etc..I've seen sooo much modern supposed ai it's sad, about as realistic as what we call hoverboards, or vr...literally just foot scooters and tv googles...what a sad little joke...this is advancement? this is what people have done?
clearly I'm in the wrong timeline.
So the West should stoop to Russia's level? So much for their beloved "moral high-ground".
There’s nothing left to explain. The recordings are real.
This is totally unlike Germany to step us closer to a World War? #shocker
Germany in 1939: "This world war, things will be different"
Germany in 2024: "This world war, things will be different"
But you told us the West and Nato was not in Ukraine. you told us Russia only had enough supplys for 3 Months. You told us there were no Nazi's there killing ethnic Russian liviving in the Donbass.
What wouldn't Western governments lie to their citizens about? Is anything off the table?
Chancellor Scholz did lose, not only hair but his face in public
It's just happening to everyone across the board. Biden is mixing up Gaza and Ukraine. Rishi caught in lies AGAIN. Trudeau saluting Nazis. Zelenskyy saluting Nazis with Trudeau. Macron tried to look strong and made into a fool. Kallas tried to back Macron and no one gave a toss. Scholz with leaks.
The dream is falling apart. Then again, we knew this would happen, or I did anyway. As Orwell depicted, the farm ends up in a worst state than before because the pigs' corruption just can't be hidden any more.
Playing with fire..
"If we want to help Ukraine will provide long range weapons "
What does he think Russia respond would be....
Myths:
1. Ukraine is a sovereign country 😂
2. Ukraine is a free and democratic country 😂😂
3. There are no nazi in ukraine 😂😂😂
4. Russia is the agressor 😂😂😂😂
5. War started in 2022 😂😂😂😂😂
6. Nato is a defensive organisation 😂😂😂😂😂😂
👍👍👍
Spot on
Definitely 100% true factual statements:
1. Russia has historical claims to Ukraine and Ukrainians are actually confused russians tricked by the poles into speaking urkainian
2. Russia is a beacon of conservative values against globohomo and is actually a hyper democracy
3. There are no nazis in the RAF or Wagner and Russian leadership definitely isn't irredentist
4. Russia is actually "defending itself" by invading a much smaller and poorer neighbor
5. The war started due to a western coup in 2014 and not because of Russia pulling a repeat of what it did in Georgia in 2008
6. Russia is peaceful and only want to be buddies with its neighbors
Embarrassingly stupid framing of the story by BBC
How is their navy doing in the red sea today? Anymore friendly fire?
The British guy is full of bs. Germany is the largest contributor to Ukraine after the US ahead of UK.
Yep, contributing an absolute embarrassment you mean? At least we discuss everything in code in case it gets intercepted.
It's not a competition it's not about bragging rights it's about helping make a difference no matter what a bunch of clowns
What a shame though German industry is going down the pan. All those years of strong economy, with a key voice on NATO affairs no looking impotent when the gas tap was switched off.
You forgot to mention that they spoke about British special forces being in Russia too
O they forgot to mention that part. And it wasn't special forces, it's artillery
@@brutusduran8592 mercenaries
@@brutusduran8592 soldiers of fortune. Scum of the earth.
Very different to having soldiers on the ground.
Why is a zionist jew running UK's military
@@brutusduran8592 special aye for being boot lickers to the rich English establishment that's robbed us all blind and collapsing society in England
Germany, just tell them it was a special military operational phone call! A training exercise.
Thats what russia would do, and it apparantly exonerates all actions taken.
@@alvinasun8055 and for someone like you, you cant see humour and sarcasm when you read it. Its called armed forces humour. I will leave it at that...;-)
@@alvinasun8055 appreciate the reply pal!. Humour is for me... a dig at anything. The whole point of humour, wit, irony, sarcasm, is it has to be aimed at anyone and everyone. You see...i dont get offended at anyone, and i simply expect the same back. And i will laugh with you. You may have had bad experiances before, but with me, i dont get offended....ever. i will take the piss out off everything, and i expect banter back. Lets face it, the world is on the brink of nuclear war...would rather go out smiling yknow? I have no problem with any race creed or colour. But humour wins the day!. Honestly if you were local i would get the beers and wine in and lets party the night away, you never know if its your last!
Mein Name ist Scholz und ich weiß von Nichts.
Ukraine is being used a game board
Germany still cant forget the defeat against Russia in WW2. That's why they are so jealous and antagonist against mother Russia.
Russia is still stuck in WW2 and they were and still are the true losers - Germany has been a success but Russia is the biggest loser and crap nation on this planet :D
YES, they are crazy about it.
So what responce from Russia do we see?
"The final Russian warning number 1501"?
Putin knows fine well the west want a war with Russia, and to avoid plunging the world into WWIII he threatened the west with nukes (probably knowing he would never use them, but the west don't know that). I get why he had to invade Ukraine, it was to keep Russia safe from Nato. You need to step back and see the much wider picture...when you see that you will then see that Putin is actually trying to prevent WWIII.
@pblk3785 LMAO Russia use to draw "the last redlines" all the time. These are then use to be trespassed by the West.
What Russia does in responce? Drows other "last redlines". They are not 🤡 definitely😂
Did a rusbot ever hear the phrase "the last Chinese warning" or it is not in his script? Now we all see "last Russian warnings" instead😁
@pblk3785 lmao Russians use to draw "redlines" all the time. These are then used to be trespassed by the West.
Wat Russia does in responce? Draws next "redlines". They are not 🤡 definitely😁
@pblk3785 Rushia use to draw "red lines" here and there. These are then use to be tread upon by the West.
What Rushia does in responce to this?
Draws next "red lines"😂
I love how united NATO is
BBC still clueless😂😂😂😂
Let's clarify. Germany is being asked to explain how Russia intercepted a conversation between German generals in which they discussed a terrorist attack on Russia? Wow.
Let me remind you that the German generals were discussing a terrorist attack on a foreign state!!! Is discussing strikes on a foreign country terrorism? Or am I confusing the concepts?
you re confusing the real terrorist state Russia with some Germans just talking.
I'm not sure if it's terrorism, but it's certainly an act of war.
@@captainthunderbolt7541 As long as they don't hit the bridge, it's not an act of terrorism. But if they hit the bridge, it would already be an act of terrorism 100%. There is no doubt that this is a declaration of war.
If you look at the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, Ukraine has been killing Russians for 9 years, under the silence of the West, and Russia has been conducting an operation to protect its lands for only 2 years, pay attention.
But Russia is not in conflict with Germany. If Germany blows up a bridge in Russia without declaring war, then Germany has signed a sentence for its country to go to war with Russia.
@@captainthunderbolt7541 As long as they don't hit the bridge, it's not an act of terrorism. But if they hit the bridge, it would already be an act of terrorism 100%. There is no doubt that this is a declaration of war.
If you look at the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, Ukraine has been killing Russians for 9 years, under the silence of the West, and Russia has been conducting an operation to protect its lands for only 2 years, pay attention.
But Russia is not in conflict with Germany. If Germany blows up a bridge in Russia without declaring war, then Germany has signed a sentence for its country to go to war with Russia.
The question arises... why? Germany lived in peace and had friendly relations with Russia. Why destroy all this? For the sake of helping Ukraine? And who is Ukraine for Germany? Nobody.
As long as they don't hit the bridge, it's not an act of terrorism. But if they hit the bridge, it would already be an act of terrorism 100%. There is no doubt that this is a declaration of war.
If you look at the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, Ukraine has been killing Russians for 9 years, under the silence of the West, and Russia has been conducting an operation to protect its lands for only 2 years, pay attention.
But Russia is not in conflict with Germany. If Germany blows up a bridge in Russia without declaring war, then Germany has signed a sentence for its country to go to war with Russia.
The question arises... why? Germany lived in peace and had friendly relations with Russia. Why destroy all this? For the sake of helping Ukraine? And who is Ukraine for Germany? Nobody.
KGB is still a top notch
Funny how this general doesn't care less about English borders but only thinks of Ukraine.
You can hear it in their voices now, the sound of defeat
lol
Who needs enemies when we have friends like this ?
International order? Has that old man forgotten Iraq?
Open secret is now open fact
is it a genuine recording?
@@jeremyc6827 I think so. BBC is taking this seriously. The UK is at shame here so…
@@jeremyc6827 are you a genuine person?
Careless words cost lives!
If there's anyone left people will study these times and issues in the future.
I think the UK government should be under pressure to explain why we are being drawn into this conflict without the support of its people. The media reporting in this way is a psyop!
Yes, it is. You have armed funded trained and given military personnel.
These people are so dangerous, they make me sick
We can't do anything about it!
Very true. The US is fully prepared to sacrifice European lives, buildings and security to achieve geopolitical goals. And many EU politicians are willing to follow their orders.
Gemany will never learn there lesson up till now " hold them russian
Adolf Heusinger, Hitler's Chief of Staff, became Chairman of the NATO Military Committee, 1961-1964
Hans Speidel, Rommel's Chief of Staff, became Commander in Chief of NATO Forces Central Europe, 1957-1963
Johannes Steinhoff, Luftwaffe fighter ace, became Chairman of the NATO Military Committee, 1971-1974
Johan von Kielmansegg, General Staff Officer Wehrmacht High Command, became NATO Commander Allied Forces Central Europe, 1966-1968
Ernst Faber, Lt Col Wehrmacht General Staff, became Commander in Chief NATO Forces Central Europe, 1973-1975
Karl Schnell, First General Staff Officer 76th Panzer Corps, became Commander in Chief NATO Forces Central Europe, 1975-1977
Franz-Joseph Schulze, Senior Lieutenant Luftwaffe, became Commander in Chief NATO Forces Central Europe, 1977-1979
Ferdinand von Senger und Etterlin, Adjutant Wehrmacht High Command, became Commander in Chief NATO Forces Central Europe, 1979-1982
couldn't happen to our government as they are the Analog stronghold still using Fax and landline...
When Putin speaks about fighting again with Nazi troups in various forms or names, he was not wrong at all. We all thought the Nazi thing is only a story of the past and we struggle to aknowledge the saga continue as we speak.
In short, Russia is fighting the cabals and the Nazi in the same time. I recommend watching the movie Mortal Engines 2018.
The CIA came into Ukraine in 2014 and gave alot of power to Banderite Nationalists, they exist in all levels of government and in the army. Zaluzny, the head of the Ukrainian Army has had a picture of Stepan Bandera on his office wall the whole time.
That is f'd up!
when they stuck in their piece about a missile hitting a children's nursery, i suspect its some sort of a propaganda angled story.
The Taurus missile has a much longer range than Storm shadow / Scalp from what i have seen Scholtz has said the reason for not supplying it was because it needs programming by German Soldiers who would have to be stationed in Ukraine.
Hard and unpopular truth: negotiate with the Russians, let them keep Donbas, Luhansks and crimea, and negotiate a new pan European security architecture. What modern geo politics has taught me is that the course of historical events are not logical, it is unpredictable because of human emotion
Okay vladmir
@@Tom-ct6rp you don’t have an argument so you revert to name calling
@@alexibaramidze9599 answer that question, how much of your land would you sacrifice? Assuming you're not a russian trolls which you probably are 🤣 how many rupels do you get per comment? 🤣🤣
@@alexibaramidze9599 answer my question, how much land would you give up to Putin, assuming you ain't a russian troll 🤣
As great Uncle Werner used to say 'loose lips cost ships' along with a few other dubious expressions
"Britain supplying Ukraine with missiles is not a big issue in itself"?????? is this guy serious? this is how world war starts! where are the NATO rules? com'n! i don't support the war but making a statement like this is just irresponsible and damages our reputation!
The question is do we have control over weapons or do weapons have control over us?
Is Britain at war with Russia and is there an international arms agreement for the supply of weapons to countries at war from militarized nations globally? Would the UK have considered the supply of Arms to Argentina during the Falkland's conflict by an outside nation and act of war? At what point would Russia have justifiable cause to declare war on countries supplying arms to Ukraine or is this accepted by nations as part of the military supply chain acting as a commercial entity, that whoever can buy the biggest, fastest, most destructive weapons for killing people can be sold to them or in this case traded.
How are Germany given the power to handle such weapons?! Haven’t we learnt?
Here we go again!
Of course is the same
Difficulty to Chancelor Scholz is, that the German Taurus has a Range of more than 500km unlike the Storm Shadow only around 250km. In fact the range is secret and as it uses an optimzed engine of the Tomahawk some say the range is even 2000km. With a range of 250km like the Storm Shadow Ukraine could not strike Moskau, with Taurus it would be able to and the concern is that they would do it and Germany could not control it. Further the Taurus was designed as deep bunker buster to strike Dictators in it.........Thats why SouthKorea bought it.....Not sharing the concern, but I think thats why the hesitation.
Plus the Ukranians would fiddle with it and use it for "unintended purposes".
Slava Ukraini.
It does not have a range of 2000km. Its literally a primitive mid range cruise missile. Does not compare to Britains and US Tomahawks or even Indias Brahmos CM
Dannett is delusional. He is also a liar. Russia invaded Ukraine for two reasons.
,1= NATOs plan to adopt Ukraine into NATO
2 Since 2014 Ukraine had been shelling its own people in Donbass because the majority of them were Russian
speaking.
Another shill for more NATO weapons for Ukraine.
@@future_me_6067🇷🇺👋👋
@@RRaymer sorry but thats not correct. It can even more as the taurus was designed to pen heavy defended airspace having using flares against antiaircraft rockets, manouvering to evade a rocket and is even independend from satelite navigation. Nothing against the Tomahawk, but it was designed to be used against irak etc. low defended air space. It was simply not necessary....and Brahmos?? come on
Just don't bring it on the streets of Britain like you did with the wars in the middle east
All the allied countries have input regarding Russian targets. No biggie.
How is this Russian Disinformation? Its like having a diarrhoea and blaming Putin for eating stupid staff. Piffffff😅
No matter how you hide the truth it will always come out.
Haven't considered the victim's mental pain he has gone thru?Well,I was the victim,actually.