The FINAL Battle Between the Emperor & Sanguinius VS Horus - HORUS HERESY - Warhammer 40K LORE

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  • @TheBookofChoyer
    @TheBookofChoyer  2 місяці тому +12

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    • @RoydeanEU
      @RoydeanEU 2 місяці тому

      I wonder if the emperor played war thunder since he would be alive right now on Earth waiting 🤔🤔🤔🤔

    • @TheBookofChoyer
      @TheBookofChoyer  2 місяці тому +2

      @@RoydeanEU he's certainly playing right now as we speak brother 🧐

  • @Vandelberger
    @Vandelberger 2 місяці тому +44

    The one quote I wish you mentioned. “You killed my son,” Horus realized the Emperor was talking to the chaos gods behind him.

    • @ironduke5058
      @ironduke5058 2 місяці тому +4

      That one hurt to read, especially when Horus realised he wasn't talking about Sanguinius. But about him to the Chaos gods because his son as he knew him was twisted into something so crude and corrupt he might as well be a dead corpse calling itself Horus

    • @mlgosiris6630
      @mlgosiris6630 23 дні тому

      That shit gave me chills man.

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 2 місяці тому +57

    "When my Father was interred into the Golden Throne, my normal calm had been compromised. The only way to placate my anger is to hunt down the Traitor Legions with immense abhorrence." - TTS Rogal Dorn probably

    • @visitingforgefather5997
      @visitingforgefather5997 2 місяці тому +4

      "Hey Rogaaaal! He he. Pester, pester, pester, pester pester. Pester, pester. Come and fist me Rogal. Wait that didn't come out right." TTS Perturabo

    • @GeronimoPlaz
      @GeronimoPlaz 2 місяці тому +1

      TTS?

    • @derberoe1010
      @derberoe1010 2 місяці тому +3

      @@GeronimoPlazif the emperor had a text-to-speech device. Watch it now, see you in two weeks. This is your new canon.

  • @inquisitorgarza312
    @inquisitorgarza312 2 місяці тому +27

    This singular duel between the Emperor and Horus has forever shape the destiny of mankind since the Heresy, and the effects of that ancient battle has cause so much death and suffering that nothing in the modern day setting has come close to the sheer affects on the history of this Universe.

  • @TheBookofChoyer
    @TheBookofChoyer  2 місяці тому +25

    Thank you for watching and I hope you enjoy this one. There’s so much to say about this particular episode!
    First of all, having read the entirety of the Siege of Terra series I was truly pleased with how the ending was done. I cannot imagine the pressure Dan Abnett must have felt when taking on the gargantuan task of finishing the Horus Heresy series, but personally I feel he did it justice. I really enjoyed the Siege of Terra series and of course, the 3 volumes that came up for The End and The Death (plus the Afterword of the author himself). I HIGHLY recommend you read the books because that way you can read and absorb the full details of what happened instead of relying on lore summaries like this one in which we have to cut out or not mention many of the details… so If you feel that in some parts we skipped something or a topic was not mentioned, you are probably right! Even then, this has turned out to be one of the longest videos we have done on the channel so far.
    Now, into the story itself, this is only an overview of what happened inside the Vengeful Spirit or shall we say, the warp. What stood up to me were the different traps that the Chaos Gods had prepared for the loyalists that would go to face the Warmaster.
    One that really stood out to me was the trap that awaited Rogal Dorn. Imagine the desperation of being the Praetorian of Terra, suddenly trapped in an endless desert with nowhere to go and knowing that Terra was still falling apart, knowing that the Emperor, Sanguinius, Valdor and the others were in peril, most likely also in a trap. His sense of duty crushing him from the inside at not being able to do anything must have been something else. Yet he endured. Even though at the end he was (arguably) about to fall into the temptation of wanting to spill Blood for the Blood God, he endured.
    Sanguinius’ death was also very hard to read (in a good way). His last moments were painful and like Horus said, the expectation of having the Great Angel say some last words that would surely go to legend being crushed by the fact that Sanguinius was too badly wounded and bloodied to even speak was not something I expected, yet it was a welcome detail. Having those unexpected little twists is what makes a good reading experience for me, of course this is a very personal thing. Many could argue that having Sanguinius say some last words or a condemnation to Horus would have been cool too, just like Sigismund did when he was killed by Abaddon.
    Speaking about surprises and unexpected twists, to me, one of the most epic scenes of the book and even the entire siege, was when Constantin Valdor and his battered Custodes were surrounded and outnumbered by the Sons of Horus (and I think also Word Bearers & daemons) and they were making a last stand. But then Rogal Dorn appeared to join them… and to see the Primarch of the Imperial Fists finally liberated from any restraint and just focused on fighting and being a warrior. I loved how he just joined the fray and started hacking, slashing and smashing the traitor forces, including terminators, neverborn and more.
    Then, to add more chaos to that particular fight, the Blood Angels arrived in a storm of fury that even the loyalists started to wonder which side they were on. We have to remember that by this point (shortly after the death of their Primarch Sanguinius) the Blood Angels were already consumed in what we know now as the Black Rage, a condition that was new and unexpected to the Blood Angels themselves and even more so to the ones around them! So everyone was more than confused when they saw the state that the Blood Angels were in. Just reminds me of a phrase that Dan Abnett coined perfectly “…the Blood Angels of Anabasis Company, in their divine insanity”. I got chills reading that part.
    Another character that had a big part to play and one who I really find interesting is the Emperor’s friend and confident: Malcador the Sigilite (or shall we say Malcador the Hero). He suffered a lot and died just to allow for Operation Anabasis to take place by temporarily taking His place upon the Golden Throne. He saw things that were perhaps too much for his own mind to handle, but then again, he was one of the most powerful psykers and one of the most mysterious, yet fascinating characters in the entire setting of Warhammer. While he was dying on the Throne, Malcador was the only one able to see it all through the eyes of an omnipresent being, he was able to see every plot, every stratagem being played and every trap being laid out, yet he could not speak. You could feel his pain by reading through the chapters dedicated to him.
    I have to give a special thanks to Skrubasauras who did an amazing job with bringing this story to life with his narration. He has been one of the main voice actors for the channel for a couple of years now and beyond his talent, Skrubs's professionalism and dedication to his craft have made every collaboration an absolute pleasure. His contribution to our channel has been invaluable, and it's safe to say that our projects wouldn't be the same without him.
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    Lastly, as I stated earlier, I highly recommend you read the books for yourself for getting the complete story and all the details, I recommend reading the Siege of Terra Books, specifically the three volumes of “The End & the Death” if you want to read the conclusion of the series and the full details of the final confrontation between Horus and the Emperor.

    • @kieranb7747
      @kieranb7747 2 місяці тому +1

      content is always amazing man. thanks!

  • @holbewoner
    @holbewoner 2 місяці тому +22

    When you guys make videos about warhammer in general, it literally makes me feel like im there. Im 13 minutes in right now and i am loving this so much already. Thank you for making high quality videos

    • @TheBookofChoyer
      @TheBookofChoyer  2 місяці тому +3

      That's awesome to hear! Thank you so much!

  • @samdunn2297
    @samdunn2297 2 місяці тому +13

    Sanguinius ripping out Angron's nail's is the coolest part of the whole heresy.

  • @raikun2963
    @raikun2963 2 місяці тому +12

    There it was. The End and the Death. Love what you have done with this. Apropriate drama and gravity for the begining of an age of war, darkness and defiance.

  • @SordidusFellatio
    @SordidusFellatio 2 місяці тому +8

    Holy hell I didn’t know that the Emperor amassed and drew so much raw power from the warp to the point that he himself almost exploded into the 5th Chaos God. Well I guess it didn’t matter one way or another, since Aeldari’s prophecy will always end up true somehow, so he IS in fact a Dark King, judging by the state that he is now and the sheer amount of souls that went toward him on the daily, and the amount of concentrated beliefs toward the Emperor’s ascendancy, basically willed his ascendants into existence and made him into the prophecised Dark King in the end regardless.

  • @skywillfindyou
    @skywillfindyou 2 місяці тому +8

    Missed a crucial detail with Emperor there. How He took down his old "King of Ages" form, and took on his new "dress" - King of All Ages.

  • @PantsuMann
    @PantsuMann 2 місяці тому +4

    This is the second video I have watched from this channel and I'm so hooked so I subscribed. More than once a video I forget this is not an audio drama from Audible. S tier quality. This will be my go to for atmosphere and drama, Luetin for just the lore. Both amazing channels. Thanks for doing this!

    • @TheBookofChoyer
      @TheBookofChoyer  2 місяці тому +2

      Thank you for the kind words brother! Glad to hear you are enjoying the channel 😃🙌

  • @unnamed5603
    @unnamed5603 2 місяці тому +5

    make this with every book and i gurantee you, your channel will be one of THE most visited warhammer 40k channels

  • @RoydeanEU
    @RoydeanEU 2 місяці тому +4

    44:12 it was at this moment I hope the traitors realized maybe they shouldn't have went against their god like glowing yellow emperor 😅

  • @vontheunknown7982
    @vontheunknown7982 2 місяці тому +9

    The emperor may have foreshadow Horus return, later on. Since he didn't destroy Horus soul only killed him, but what do you guys think?

    • @TheBookofChoyer
      @TheBookofChoyer  2 місяці тому +9

      Not sure. Taking into a ccount the Emperor's last words to Horus "I wait for you and I forgive you.” I wonder what is he actually referring to. But given that this phrase, along many other things in the book, and as stated by the author himself in the afterword, there are many things that are left unsaid or covered in a shade of mistery. I guess Horus' death was one of them.

    • @vontheunknown7982
      @vontheunknown7982 2 місяці тому +1

      @@TheBookofChoyer Very, true.

    • @sindrimyr5351
      @sindrimyr5351 2 місяці тому +1

      we have one issue with it. The case of Magnus. Depending on HOW MUCH of Horus soul is gone, it may be fatal for him. In the Novel Crimson King we learn that after the battle of Prospero and his duel with Leman, that his soul has been splintered...and that he lost too much of himself. This in turn is affecting his body. He is dyhing and slowly becoming insane. It is only thanks to Ahriman that they recovered MOST of his soul shards and reunite them with him, and later on Magnus hiimself gathering some more. Still incomplete but now enough to survive, and later he ascends fully to demon prince which makes the soul issue irrelevant.
      However, if Horus would somehow come back, he would be missing a chunk of his soul. If that portion is too large, it may drive him insane anyway again or once more lead him to a slow death.

  • @Blehx1
    @Blehx1 2 місяці тому +5

    Keep up the good work!

    • @TheBookofChoyer
      @TheBookofChoyer  2 місяці тому +1

      What a hero! Thank you good sir! We'll do our best 😃🙌 have a great start of the week!

  • @DevilDr
    @DevilDr 2 місяці тому +4

    this proves that the forces of chaos only cares whit the sake of destrucción, no seek for victory or defeat, no matter who is using their Powers. Hórus could bê a great leader indeed, pehaps chaos knew that and executed him before he betrayls then too.

  • @juliusmalcovsky4092
    @juliusmalcovsky4092 2 місяці тому +1

    Amazing work again. Felt like I was almost there when it happened. Thank you for doing this ❤

  • @RanmaSyaoranSaotome
    @RanmaSyaoranSaotome 2 місяці тому +1

    Beautifully done and the narration is excellent!

  • @pss1991
    @pss1991 2 місяці тому +1

    This is amazing. All your videos are, but this is one of the best so far.

  • @Erisplay
    @Erisplay 2 місяці тому +4

    Awesome content as always

  • @JimmyValmer85
    @JimmyValmer85 2 місяці тому +2

    This is fucking epic, mate. Congrats.

  • @ChrisDanceMusic
    @ChrisDanceMusic 2 місяці тому

    The story, narration and sound was all fantastic. Great video

  • @Wikid0Majik
    @Wikid0Majik 2 місяці тому +2

    Damn you Darktide OST, being so good...

  • @TwojaStaraIFrytki
    @TwojaStaraIFrytki 2 місяці тому +1

    Oh boy, I can't even imagine how Dorn will/would/may react to current state of the Emperor's Domain

  • @Kristian.B.Kristiansen
    @Kristian.B.Kristiansen 2 місяці тому +1

    It is far more accurate to say that Horus Lupercal died smiling warmly, forgiven and having rejected Chaos.

  • @Sempai1025
    @Sempai1025 2 місяці тому +1

    Great work guys. Sincere thanks!

  • @newbiekitty3528
    @newbiekitty3528 Місяць тому

    This was wonderful!! Thank you for sharing❤❤❤❤❤

  • @dkbierley
    @dkbierley 2 місяці тому

    Excellent Presentation!

  • @chadmcdonald4012
    @chadmcdonald4012 Місяць тому

    Forevermore i will think of Rogal Dorn "in the desert 🏜 on a horse 🐎 with no name. It felt goood to be outta the rain 🌧 in the desert you can't remember your name..." 🎶 🎵
    😂

  • @ewc58
    @ewc58 2 місяці тому +1

    Brilliant work 👏

  • @byecameron
    @byecameron 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video Choyer!

    • @TheBookofChoyer
      @TheBookofChoyer  2 місяці тому

      Cameron! Thanks a lot! Happy to hear you enjoyed it brother 😃🙌Hope you are doing awesome!

  • @southwestpkr
    @southwestpkr 2 місяці тому +5

    Lets go!!!

  • @howardhavardramberg7160
    @howardhavardramberg7160 2 місяці тому +3

    Hail the Emprah!

  • @solidostso8500
    @solidostso8500 2 місяці тому +1

    That was awesome 🔥🔥

  • @jersmont1309
    @jersmont1309 2 місяці тому +1

    Why didn't Dorn try piling up sand against the walls so he could climb over?

    • @RoydeanEU
      @RoydeanEU 2 місяці тому

      Khorne fears your giant brain.

  • @regulusm1518
    @regulusm1518 2 місяці тому +1

    Great stuff❤

  • @TorsteintheTitan
    @TorsteintheTitan 2 місяці тому +4

    First! Yes new Choyer 40k video!

  • @GeronimoPlaz
    @GeronimoPlaz 2 місяці тому +2

    Thousand strong legions???

  • @johnbarrington5497
    @johnbarrington5497 Місяць тому

    Damn, Dorn got the worse of it. Feeling like he was lost for hundreds of year

    • @TheBookofChoyer
      @TheBookofChoyer  Місяць тому

      I think I agree. Out of all the tests, that one was particularly cruel.

  • @unspecifiedappleslice313
    @unspecifiedappleslice313 Місяць тому

    What’s the music at 13:38

  • @tommate16
    @tommate16 2 місяці тому +1

    What is the music @26:30?

    • @RoydeanEU
      @RoydeanEU 2 місяці тому +2

      Sounds like the music from Darktide that plays during the Traitor cutscene I believe its called path of trust?

  • @stablegun314
    @stablegun314 2 місяці тому

    I still think turning the Custodes was a lame direction to go.

  • @michaelanderson3813
    @michaelanderson3813 2 місяці тому

    Another masterpiece. Very well done, sir. You and all involved deserve much credit. I will start contributing for your hard work. How may I help best?

  • @victorcharles27
    @victorcharles27 2 місяці тому +4

    4th

  • @Michaelkayslay
    @Michaelkayslay 2 місяці тому +2

    If sanguineous wasn't injured and fresh, could he have clapped Whorus?

    • @TheBookofChoyer
      @TheBookofChoyer  2 місяці тому +5

      No. It was stated in the book that not even the Empero had a chance against the monster that Horus had become by that point. The Warmaster was carrying the full essence/power of Chaos at that point. Sanguinius never stood a chance. The Emperor was only (barely) able to do what he did because he tricked Horus into letting go of that power momentarily. Horus was a victim of his own weakness and was ultimately defeated because of that and not because he was overpowered by the might of the Emperor.

    • @Michaelkayslay
      @Michaelkayslay 2 місяці тому

      @@TheBookofChoyer :( I reckon my captain with jump pack could end Whorus .
      I love your work. It's what got me interested in 40k

    • @TheBookofChoyer
      @TheBookofChoyer  2 місяці тому +4

      @@Michaelkayslay ahh with a properly powered backpack I'm sure he could. Thanks a lot for your kind words good sir! 🙏

  • @AdamMichalMarkowski
    @AdamMichalMarkowski 2 місяці тому

    So Sanguinius did not chip Horus armour, nor did anything that helped Emperor? Kinda dissapointing Abnett wrote it like that, it makes Sanguinius sacrifice feel pointless.

    • @Mondy667
      @Mondy667 2 місяці тому +2

      I love that part

  • @mikemoore2791
    @mikemoore2791 27 днів тому

    Primarchs are not superhuman the Astartes are trans human. Primarchs are something beyond even trans human

  • @bliblivion
    @bliblivion 2 місяці тому

    The authors failed us, they had one job: tell us how it happened, we new what happened it was established, but they decided to change it, to take away of the magesty of the Emperor.
    i stopped reading the Horus heresy 5 years ago and i did well to stop this is a shame.

    • @TheBookofChoyer
      @TheBookofChoyer  2 місяці тому +1

      I think the majesty of the Emperor is (in part) Him being shrouded in mystery. Always seeing His actions from an outsider's perspective but never getting the full view of what exactly He is thinking. Some things are indeed left unsaid, but I personally think it's for the better. Of course that's only my opinion but that's the beautify of it, to have different perspectives on how things could/should be.
      One thing that I think needs to be clarified, now that you mention it, is that the author had the job of writing the end of the Horus Heresy but with the guideline coming from GW themselves that some things must remain in mystery, not giving away too much of how things happened exactly. This was stated by the author himself in the afterword.

    • @bliblivion
      @bliblivion 2 місяці тому

      @@TheBookofChoyer
      First of all all your videos are top quality, i enjoy them every time .
      I'm not talking about not revealing everything i'm talking about changing the lore turning it upside down:
      Originally the confrontation between The Emperor and Horus was supposed to happen after the Empeor had spent a decade fending off the warp from Terra seated on the Golden throne (now Vulkan comes with a device the give the Emperor is full power back)
      Sanguinius was supose to have pierced Horus's arrmour with his blade before dying (now his death is meaningles).
      The reason why the Emperor was supposed to struggle against Horus was that he was exausted and that he was holding back in the desilusion that Horus could be brought back until witnessing the monster that Horus have trully become after he killed the Guardsman (now it is Horus that holds back stealing the ultimate victory form the Emperor, rendering the Emperor's saccrifice dul)
      Claiming that the directives are coming from GW is not a good argument, it is GW that butchured Warhammer Fantasy Battle, it is GW that created the Primaris Marines regardless of the lore inconsitencies (Black Templars working with Eldar XD) only to sell SM armies a second time.
      GW of today is not the same GW that created the IP they don't have the love for it and we, the fans must stay vigilent so our beloved universes stay coherent and true to themselves.
      Sorry for the gramatical mistakes i'm not fluent in English.

    • @TheBookofChoyer
      @TheBookofChoyer  2 місяці тому +1

      @@bliblivion Ahh I couldn't comment much about that then because I thought that those were theories. That the man that got in between Horus and the Emperor was indeed a guardsman or that Sanguinius had actually pierced Horus' plate and that allowed for the Emperor to deliver the killing blow. I had read those but never from an official source. If those were official then I guessed they retconned it. And yes you are right, saying that because GW mandates something doesn't mean it is necessarily a good thing, I never intended to imply that. I was just pointing out the fact that the author had a "restraint" or a condition to meet when writing the novel. Personally I liked it a lot, but I can understand why you and some other's don't. All good.

  • @sirloin869
    @sirloin869 2 місяці тому

    2 big thumbs down: you didn't mention the final words of horus to the emperor, or the emperor to horus...

    • @TheBookofChoyer
      @TheBookofChoyer  2 місяці тому +3

      Here my friend: ua-cam.com/video/mgsofX_norg/v-deo.htmlsi=HLoTWYTB5VHE_Woz&t=4198

  • @bgwarior
    @bgwarior 3 дні тому

    Anabasis mispronounced so many times... Makes you wonder what did they teach you in school.