LORE DISCUSSION: Angron VS Ghazghkull Thraka - World Eaters vs Orks - Warhammer 40,000 Lore Overview

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  • @TheBookofChoyer
    @TheBookofChoyer  11 місяців тому +89

    What a pleasure it has been to make this video! and what a sprint it has been to get it out before the end of the year. Hopefully you’ll get to enjoy this episode it during your well-deserved holidays. Special thanks to the Great Skrubasauras for delivering yet another wonderful narration for this one!
    Speaking about the fight between the Red Angel and the Prophet of the Waaagh! This is a tough one, the two of them are true monsters of destruction, but in my view, Angron might edge out a victory in a one-on-one fight. However, when it comes to an all-out war with their full armies, the scales could tip in favor of Ghazghkull and the greenskin horde. Again, this is my own personal opinion and I could be completely wrong, but it is still fun to speculate on these matters.
    Another factor is that now that it has been stablished that Angron can return to realspace even when he is banished to the warp after just eight weeks, eight days and eight hours, I would say that he is more “killable” now. It’s easier for writers to kill Angron as he would then be returned, with no real consequences, doing away with the risk of eliminating a major character from the setting of Warhammer 40K. Of course this is looking at it from a perspective outside of the universe but I think it still counts. Personally, I would love to see Angron killing off a main character for once, destroying an important world or so…
    In any case, what do you think? Who would emerge victorious on this clash and why? Would love to see your comments, theories and such.
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  • @kenny187ful
    @kenny187ful 9 місяців тому +129

    Ghaz killing Angron could very much send Ghaz to such heights that we may see a return of the first Krork since the War in Heaven

    • @redcrewmate927
      @redcrewmate927 7 місяців тому +5

      He's gonna body soo many factions lmfao 😂, GW gonna use the ultimate plot armor or some shit to make ghaz lose

    • @bleekskaduwee6762
      @bleekskaduwee6762 5 місяців тому +5

      If Ghaz won he could be the next Beast

  • @markmikolay9019
    @markmikolay9019 11 місяців тому +851

    Imagine Ghazzy being on the backfoot against Angron, when suddenly... It's Tuska Demonkilla with a steel chair!!!!

    • @TenPtJackalope
      @TenPtJackalope 11 місяців тому +99

      BAH GAWD ALMIGHTY, HE’S BROKEN IN HALF!

    • @boyanpenev9822
      @boyanpenev9822 10 місяців тому +55

      Makes you wonder if Khorne's flex to break the replacement astronomicon ends up having... unexpected consequences. Imagine how much Tuska has been grinding.

    • @massivemike7358
      @massivemike7358 10 місяців тому +6

      HELLYEAH❗️

    • @bikesnblades6737
      @bikesnblades6737 10 місяців тому +25

      Tuska... BRING THE TABLES!

    • @lavatun
      @lavatun 10 місяців тому +27

      ​@@TenPtJackalope by da gork an' mork!.. 'ez droppin' down on dis red git outta nowherz!..

  • @jtfbreedlove
    @jtfbreedlove 10 місяців тому +473

    Weirdly enough Ghaz's main advantage in a 1v1 with Angron is he is possibly the saner of the two at this point.

    • @ev6781
      @ev6781 8 місяців тому +41

      Gods your right but it weird that you are right

    • @wadeall8998
      @wadeall8998 8 місяців тому +4

      Wow ya huh

    • @roy-johnlarkin3049
      @roy-johnlarkin3049 5 місяців тому +6

      Who would've known that to be crazier than ghaz you need to enjoy standing on the front of spaceships yelling at things

    • @AlphaQHard
      @AlphaQHard 5 місяців тому

      How is sanity an advantage in a fight to the death?

    • @eggdog6185
      @eggdog6185 5 місяців тому

      ​@AlphaQHard, it allows you to fight better

  • @Robosium
    @Robosium 8 місяців тому +78

    I kinda hope that someone would tell the orks about the concept of saints in the imperium so they'll will Yarrick back to life as the saint of propa good foights

  • @00tree
    @00tree 10 місяців тому +295

    "It's Tuska Demon Killa... and he's got a chair... he's got a CHAIR... HE'S GOT A CHAIR!!!"

    • @justinlast2lastharder749
      @justinlast2lastharder749 5 місяців тому +12

      'e Came 'n Off Da Top Rope, 'e Didz.

    • @j.t8529
      @j.t8529 4 місяці тому +9

      BY GORK AZ MAH WITNEZZ DAT GIT IS BROKEN IN HAFF!!

  • @Nempo13
    @Nempo13 9 місяців тому +40

    Main thing to remember about daemons fighting orkz, daemons lose some of their warp given might when around green skins. So Angron would lose a decent chunk of his power while Ghaz would gain power. ESPECIALLY as a WAAAGH! would be involved.

    • @wyattmaniscalco3090
      @wyattmaniscalco3090 4 місяці тому +6

      Ooh this could potentially be a way to permanently kill Angron too

  • @ImperialKnight770
    @ImperialKnight770 11 місяців тому +508

    If Angron did indeed kill Yarrick, he better be ready for the fight of his life.

    • @Laughing_God
      @Laughing_God 11 місяців тому +30

      I am gonna be real for more then 2 seconds here, if he did that. I will straight up revive Yarrick, the only thing I can see that takes him out is turning to dust from age.

    • @ElectricalExistence
      @ElectricalExistence 10 місяців тому +14

      Yarrick lives.

    • @ImperialKnight770
      @ImperialKnight770 10 місяців тому +7

      @@ElectricalExistence *STOMP! STOMP!*

    • @RobouteGuilliman-M41
      @RobouteGuilliman-M41 10 місяців тому +5

      Yeah, I'm sure he's shaking in his boots. The super being that became an even more super being that will come back to life, if destroyed. The man that was utterly destroyed in Arcs of Omen by an energy beam, and immediately reformed. That's before he destroyed a planet. Orks like war? Good. Let's see what happens when they get infected with the Murder Curse. Let's see what Ghazghkull does when his WAAAGH! goes into a berserker rage like never before, and turns not only on each other, but on him. Oh, and they'd be getting really powerful, in the process.

    • @ImperialKnight770
      @ImperialKnight770 10 місяців тому +3

      @@RobouteGuilliman-M41 so from what you said, the only thing that could give him a final death is The Emperors sword which is in the current possession of one Robute Guilliman.

  • @davidjb20010
    @davidjb20010 11 місяців тому +393

    I think killing Angron would level up Ghaz so damn hard. It would be interesting that the primarchs are coming back just in time for war of the beast 2.0 ghaz murks your family edition.

    • @Bumbaclart247
      @Bumbaclart247 11 місяців тому +37

      He might even become a Krork

    • @ac_pejk3113
      @ac_pejk3113 11 місяців тому +9

      ​@@Bumbaclart247that would be super sick

    • @abbadullreee3298
      @abbadullreee3298 11 місяців тому +12

      War of this beast2: Krok of the millennium

    • @viziel519
      @viziel519 11 місяців тому +6

      I mean how much exp can something give when he just respawns in 8 weeks, 8 days, and 8 hours, like Angron can?

    • @ac_pejk3113
      @ac_pejk3113 11 місяців тому +13

      @@viziel519 ghaz could spawn camp eh? 🤣

  • @notjoe3710
    @notjoe3710 10 місяців тому +22

    The Orks kill angron and then because they believe they successfully killed him he doesn't come back and stays dead forever.

    • @cellectra3342
      @cellectra3342 10 місяців тому +4

      I yet to see that happened to a demon in lore, only perma deaths ive seen is the emperor with his flaming stabber

  • @Terminator-Plays101
    @Terminator-Plays101 11 місяців тому +165

    Big red angry boy vs big green angry ork boy

    • @icemanking9473
      @icemanking9473 11 місяців тому +12

      The battle of Christmas colors

    • @UGNAvalon
      @UGNAvalon 11 місяців тому +4

      Big red angry demon boy*

    • @fluffymyato3334
      @fluffymyato3334 11 місяців тому +2

      God i love how everyone is gearing up to steal abandon's thunder

    • @exiledhero3791
      @exiledhero3791 7 місяців тому +2

      It’s hulk vs red hulk again?

  • @13gi0n
    @13gi0n 10 місяців тому +88

    10:46 “His unique ability to ORK-estrate Waaghs…” I see what you did there ❤

  • @frodoproudfeet3386
    @frodoproudfeet3386 10 місяців тому +60

    the orcs would go to war against Angron over Yarrick because orcs have not only a sense of respect for their enemies who have given them a good proper fight at least once but also a sense of honor. For example, in one famous case a space marine from the Space Wolves chapter along with some of his brothers in arms managed to defend a narrow passage against the orcs long enough to cover the retreat of the rest of Space Wolve company, afterward the Space Wolves came back to proper buried their fallen brothers only to shockingly discover the orcs have placed the fallen space marines in a hastily constructed shrine with their armor still on. thus logically it won't make sense, for the orcs to not let Yarrick die without giving him respect and honor and since Agron supposedly killed him, it would make sense for the orcs to honor and respect Yarrick one last time by making the biggest waagh in his honor against Angron.

  • @fl00fydragon
    @fl00fydragon 8 місяців тому +90

    Ghahzgull: "Youz killed old bale eye, youz shouldla not done dat. Waaaaagh"
    Angron, stabbing Ghazghull: "I don't remember the names of the ants I crush!"
    Ghazhghull smiles, getting bigger, bigger, massive and grabs the blade as Angron struggles and fails to pull it back out. Turning to the infrerior creature before him Ghazghull, in perfect high gothic says. "If so, then I shall return the favor, good bye puny winged ant."
    Ghazkhull, the first krork in millions of years, grabs the head of Angron, crushing his skull with overwhelming physical and wagh psychic might. For a moment, for that single spit second the attention of Gork amd Mork averted from each other, for that moment they agreed, for that moment they had one goal: to kill Angron, to crush the puny ant before their ascended prophet. In that moment it was more than just Ghazghull's hand crushing Angron. In that moment Angron finally found peace.
    As the battle ended, Ghazghull made an effigy of Yarrick, his best enemy, his rival to whom he owed the drive to be better and without another word he left, to fight the greatest waaaagh. The galaxy, his galaxy, had a bug infestation to take care of.

    • @olknoxlo
      @olknoxlo 7 місяців тому +11

      Thank the dark gods you don't write for the Black Library.

    • @bigsneak4601
      @bigsneak4601 6 місяців тому

      Beautiful, I hope Ghaz crushes that red prick

    • @Br0ck3n
      @Br0ck3n 6 місяців тому +5

      Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka - Da Biggest Ork, or the first known living Krork in millennia.

    • @olknoxlo
      @olknoxlo 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Br0ck3n What about him?

    • @robthesnakeguy4618
      @robthesnakeguy4618 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Br0ck3nWhat bout dat frozen one da metal hoardin git 'as?

  • @scooterdescooter4018
    @scooterdescooter4018 11 місяців тому +72

    "What the hell is a Ghazghkull?"
    "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHH!"
    "oh. ...oh."

  • @GundamChief
    @GundamChief 7 місяців тому +12

    "An apocalyptic Waaaugh of Vengeance may be heading to the Deamon Primarch"
    Brings a savage smile to my face.

  • @redfireeverstar2651
    @redfireeverstar2651 10 місяців тому +37

    The 4th War of Armageddon is coming. The line in the sand was drawn if the death of Yarrick is true.

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 11 місяців тому +184

    Best way to beat Angron is to tell Ghazghkull that the Daemon Primarch of Khorne was the reason behind Yarrick's demise and the Ork Warboss will go John Wick on him.

    • @whitefam420
      @whitefam420 11 місяців тому +8

      Ghaz still gets destroyed here. Picturing him as Jon wick is hilarious though 😂

    • @scooterdescooter4018
      @scooterdescooter4018 11 місяців тому +14

      Gaz in a well tailored suit...stretched over his armor.

    • @dragonlord498
      @dragonlord498 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@scooterdescooter4018 Na he is always in a suit it's just what orks consider a suit which is high end armor

    • @TheKriegsmen
      @TheKriegsmen 9 місяців тому

      What if know hear me out, what if Yarrick is playing dead so that the World Eaters and Orks weaken themselves so much from fighting each other that he can emerge and lead the imperial forces to claim victory over Armageddon?

    • @dragonlord498
      @dragonlord498 9 місяців тому +1

      @@TheKriegsmen well a certain ork warlord would be very happy I'm sure

  • @tomyorke3412
    @tomyorke3412 11 місяців тому +20

    WAAAAAAAAGH!!!! FOR OLD BALE EYE! The Guard and Orks team up to give that red git a good krumping

    • @soranurasukimo1424
      @soranurasukimo1424 28 днів тому +1

      Guardsman:never thought i fight along side a greenskin
      Ork: wot bout a friend?
      Guardsman: aye… that’ll do….FOR THE EMPEROR!
      Ork:WRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  • @the_infinexos
    @the_infinexos Місяць тому +4

    This would be the perfect way to beef up the Orks. The Tyranids won the Octarius War and got new bioforms out of it, the Imperium made the Primaris, and the Orks? Ghaz could become the next Beast.

  • @sebastianhovenas272
    @sebastianhovenas272 11 місяців тому +61

    It is important to note that Ghazghkull most certainly meant to die at Ragnars hands in "Ghazghkull Thraka Prophet of the WAAAGH". Ghazghkull definitely went easy on Ragnar, and allowed him the "victory". He says so himself.
    Ghazghkull Thraka Prophet of the WAAAGH - chapter 11 - page 199 and 200 right after ragnar choped off Ghazghkulls head.
    "So this is death is it? I've had worse. I need not die. Not if i do not will it. My enemies did not die when i took their heads. Nor when i took them again. Not because they were tough. Because you did not will it. Because i did not will it. Now, i wish for death. If i did not i would not bear this wound. But what comes next; this thing that you have shown me... it is vast. It is great and violant and sacred. I will have it for myself. You showed me where to carve the path, and here, in this place, is where it narrows. This thin curtain, this death, is all that stands in my way.
    How frail it is. I will tear it down. I will breach its gates, as i have breached every gate before me. I will tear down its walls, as i have torn down all walls. But conquest has made my body strong. Too strong now, i see. The blood clings to my veins, and it will not cool fast enough. It defies me. So i snarl, and my anger finds voice where i should have none. If my blood will not cool, then it will burn, and i will go to you in flames.
    Page 200
    I am moved, now. My head, held up by the hand of my enemy. It regards me, as it lifts my remains, and i regard it in turn. There is triumph in its face. This thing thinks it knows victory, in defeating me! It thinks it knows power. But for all the plate it wears, for all that had been done to make it into a thing of war, it is vermin. I study the bones beneath its skin. I see how its body is gnarled and swollen. How its whole self has been made, in the hope that it might hold out to the stars in the name of a dead god. It is a vain hope. Those stars will burn green, in the end.
    The vermin is dying, i see, even with such mild wounds. It is like a joke, i think, as it bares its feeble tusks. Like a poor copy of an ork, twisted together from the parts of a weaker beast. But you made us right the first time. Not even the primarchs, the peak of their dead god's work, could be as perfect as the lowest part of the great green. The anger swells, now, as the vermin holds my head up in the broken temple. And i think. That i had to die today... annoys me. But why could it not have been a primarch? That fight, i would have relished. I crave that fight. But i cannot have it, and it makes the embers of my anger glow white with rage".
    Plus there is this too...
    Ghazghkull Thraka Prophet of the WAAAGH - chapter 10 - page 188
    Makari's point of view of Ghazghkulls fight with Ragnar
    "Beset from all sides, your Prophet detonated a great store of munitions hidden in the walls, so as to cut both himself and his opponent off from the support of their warriors. He knows he must fight this combat alone. Because he has had a vision. You were there. It was his greatest vision yet, and his most violent, seizing his body as if the gods themselves had him in their jaws. He came round from it knowing that this fight was destined; that it was the narrowing he had to pass through, in order to bring about the flourishing of your Great Green.
    Ghazghkull Thraka Prophet of the WAAAGH - chapter 10 - page 189
    Makari's point of view of Ghazghkulls fight with Ragnar.
    "The prophet curls his lips back from fangs as long as your arms, and in a voice as thick and black as the spilled hydraulic fluid at his feet, he taunts Blackmane in the tounge of men. 'Finish this.' It is a command for an ending' but the ork who speaks for the gods sounds more as if he is impatient for something to begin.
    Ghazghkull Thraka Prophet of the WAAAGH - chapter 10 - page 191
    Makari's point of view after Ghazghkulls death.
    "Your vision is fading fast. But before it goes entierly, you see one last vision as you gaze involuntarily up the steps of the dias. Ragnar is standing shakily on the ruin of the prophet, with a ghastly rent in his chest. He is swaying, barely keeping his feet beneath him. In one hand, he holds aloft the head of Ghazghkull Thraka. And before the green rises up from the black to take you, you see that your master's tusks are set in a great, triumphant grin, and you know that all will be well.
    So Ragnar didn't really beat Ghazghkull, since Ghaz allowed him the victory, in order to achieve is ultimate goal! Why did he have to die? And why did he have to die to Ragnar? Only Gork and Mork know.

    • @TheBookofChoyer
      @TheBookofChoyer  11 місяців тому +24

      Nice contribution 👌 it's all about those little details that make these scenarios more interesting.

    • @UGNAvalon
      @UGNAvalon 11 місяців тому +8

      Wow, since when did Ghazhgull become such a poet? 😆

    • @sebastianhovenas272
      @sebastianhovenas272 11 місяців тому +10

      @@UGNAvalon i know! Really rolls off the tounge eh?

    • @whitefam420
      @whitefam420 11 місяців тому +2

      @@TheBookofChoyer except the author stated that Ghaz didn't lose intentionally. He did an interview and was asked about it.

    • @sebastianhovenas272
      @sebastianhovenas272 11 місяців тому +7

      ​@@whitefam420which author? David Annandale or Nate Crowley?

  • @TheD-Ham
    @TheD-Ham 11 місяців тому +48

    God this Channel has amazing narrative skills and the editing in the background with the pictures always changing as the narration continues truly a superb job well done

  • @qigonglungz
    @qigonglungz 11 місяців тому +16

    "ORChestrate massive Waaaghs" great wordplay there!!! Love the video...!!! And since most WH40K Pics are over-used, its brilliant to use shots of well painted mini-s to present the lore!

  • @Gaster_021
    @Gaster_021 11 місяців тому +29

    A battle between the Fallen red angel and the Ghazghkull would be a battle of epic proportions and magnitude that it would reshape the 40k setting entirely.
    I hope that they make it to where Commissar Yarrick died by Angron blade that the legendary warboss would go on a Crusade of his own to hunt down and kill the Fallen and possibly destroy him for good as the physic might of the Orks rage may surly be enough to destroy his very being, unable to be brought back to fight for the dark god.
    Merry Christmas 🎄

  • @drybrawler
    @drybrawler 11 місяців тому +22

    Honestly, a fight between the two of them would never be permitted to end. Khorne would resurrect both forces after one side falls to have them go at it again, and the only way he’d permit one to stay dead is if one of the sides won too consistently

    • @taloscal
      @taloscal 10 місяців тому +8

      Just imagining Khorne watching it from his throne with popcorn now.
      seeing how impressed/amused he was by Tuska Demonkilla he'd probably see Ghazkull/Angron as the sequel to his favourite movie and play it on repeat like he does on Tuska.

    • @citrusorange794
      @citrusorange794 10 місяців тому +2

      Gork and Mork would be proud two you could say Khorn is a respectful rival to them.

    • @dogedoge5532
      @dogedoge5532 9 місяців тому

      And also Orks grows Bigger the longer the battles are, Just like Octarius War

  • @mr.m.t.j.m6003
    @mr.m.t.j.m6003 10 місяців тому +6

    I mean don’t forget a fungus can literally survive nuclear blast, and hell fire is declared as a similar version to that combustion of a demon core from a nuclear bomb. So yes, they get immortality in different ways.

  • @Ragas12
    @Ragas12 11 місяців тому +5

    I just realized this video is perfect to have released on Christmas. After all, the major colors of the two sides are green and red.

  • @gfhjkfghj4208
    @gfhjkfghj4208 10 місяців тому +26

    Angron's immortality is a big liability to him since GW can have him lose and come back over and over. They kind of did that with Ghazghkull (Blackmane), but if Angron won he'd violate the body so that there was nothing left to stitch back together and Orkfans would be butthurt. So even if there should be no mortal being in the setting capable of successfully going 1vs1 in melee against Angron, I'd probably also guess that GW would give Ghazghkull the win because of plot armour.

    • @christophertidwell2422
      @christophertidwell2422 10 місяців тому +3

      In lore angron would lose to boat man since he is named,blue,and doesn't wear a helmet that means that he has three pieces of immortality

    • @lavatun
      @lavatun 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@@christophertidwell2422 I can see that happening if he had the lion's help..

    • @RipOffProductionsLLC
      @RipOffProductionsLLC 10 місяців тому +5

      A Gaz vs Angron fight would likely be during a 4th War of Armageddon, and part of ne would almost expect Gaz to get a new even bigger model out of it(especially if he's winning thus fight and looting some bits of Angron).
      Gaz would also be bringing the greatest WAAAAAAAGH since the War of The Beast with him, likes with new units for GW to sell us to boot.
      Ghazghkull is probably the best fit of all "mere" moral opponents that could be sent against a Deamon Primarch, he is the prophet of Gork and Mork after all...

  • @Robert_Douglass
    @Robert_Douglass 10 місяців тому +6

    There's an old World Wrestling Federation term used by JR "Jim" Ross when a particularly chaotic and riveting match takes place, usually a free-for-all, but it can happen between two individuals as well.
    It's called a
    Slobberknocker
    That's what this is gonna be when Ghazghkull gets his power claw on that reddy wingy git Angron.
    Ya hear that,Angron?! Ya frakked up when ya krumped Ol' Bale Eye. He was Ghaz's bestust ennumy an ya snikkt him like sum Morker. Ghaz's gonna giv it to ya but good!!

  • @gr8m887
    @gr8m887 11 місяців тому +11

    Moral of the story: you never steal another man’s kill.

  • @DylanGosseye
    @DylanGosseye 10 місяців тому +7

    In a fight like that, not only the world eaters would join, but also Khorne's daemonic legions

  • @biggs3839
    @biggs3839 10 місяців тому +4

    If the Orks do kill Angron they may use their belief power to make him stay dead.

  • @AdrianMartinez-ho6db
    @AdrianMartinez-ho6db 11 місяців тому +7

    This is a fight that NEEDS TO HAPPEN. The plan tho would hinge on Angron and his forces surviving long enough to kill Ghazghkull and let the remaining orks fight over succession, allowing the world eaters and other forces of Khorne to mop up.

    • @ianduarte1992
      @ianduarte1992 5 місяців тому

      If angron can stop eating crayons for long enough to think that could happen.

  • @UllyrWuldan
    @UllyrWuldan 10 місяців тому +5

    I’d love to see a video on the Inquisition vs Black Templars that Helbrecht hinted at over the Celestial Lions massacre.

  • @drybrawler
    @drybrawler 11 місяців тому +5

    8 weeks, 8 day, and 8 hours… so 9 weeks, a day, and a third, got it!
    Also, are these Terra’s time or the time of the last planet he was on? What if the planet’s days lasted years?

  • @SonOfHashut
    @SonOfHashut 11 місяців тому +20

    Love the 40k content as well as the fantasy. Merry Christmas you guys!

  • @TheCasualMark
    @TheCasualMark 11 місяців тому +21

    1v1 Angron wins without a doubt. Army vs Army, Ghaz wins through kunnin and weight of numbers. Keep in mind Orks DO have Titans of their own, it wouldn’t even be a contest.

    • @j.t8529
      @j.t8529 5 місяців тому +3

      And their titans is easily 10x to 50x the Imperium has in every given war and they're as deadly as the Imperial Titans too but they lack void shields

  • @IronDragon-2143
    @IronDragon-2143 10 місяців тому +3

    I'd like to think that right before Angron killed him, Yarrick smiled and his famous last words to the Daemon Primarch were...
    "You can't even imagine the horrors you've just brought upon yourself."

  • @Lycurgus1982
    @Lycurgus1982 11 місяців тому +8

    All the best to Ghazghkull in confronting a daemonic primarch of Karneth.

  • @Valonez
    @Valonez 11 місяців тому +6

    One of the best Christmas presets, thanks for the awesome video!

  • @seanturner1197
    @seanturner1197 10 місяців тому +12

    Since angron has been granted the ability to reappear in real space, every 8 weeks, 8 days and 8 hours , all the Orks have to do is wait until he reappears and then they krump 'im gud, tearing out his spleen faster than he can act. And during the constant ambushing, the Ork's WAAGH!!! will enable them to predict when and where the daemon primarch will show up.
    If angron appears at this place, on this day, of this year, of this decade and this time, then he will appear and then they jump him, knock out his teef and send him back to the warp.
    And because this occurs constantly ,angron would soon realize that the gift the blood god gave him was in fact a curse and he would despair every time he reappeared in real space.
    And then angron will remember something from his past.
    He will recall who it was that made him what he is.
    He will recall that he never really wanted daemonhood.
    He will remember who it was that denied him freedom from pain caused by the staples that were jammed into his head.
    He goes up to khorne, asks to have this boon removed from him and in exchange, he will present to khorne, the skull of a certain daemon prince.
    He stops reappearing in real space but corvus corrax senses that he isn't alone in his hunt for lorgar.....
    Disclaimer: I am NOT an author.

    • @kreedsutherland4207
      @kreedsutherland4207 10 місяців тому +2

      Nah you ain't no author.

    • @CyberXHunter
      @CyberXHunter 10 місяців тому +3

      This isn't a likely scenario. What is more plausible however is Ghazghull learning that Angron's death throws him back into the Warp, and him coming to the conclusion that if he dies there, he dies for good, and so then takes the Orc Waaaaaagh into the Warp to chase down Angron before he can materialize in realspace again. Thus the greatest Waaaaagh in the Galaxy doesn't target the Imperium, or anything in real space. It threatens the Immaterium, and all that is connected to it including Psyker powers and the Astronomicon, which would be a devastation to all of existence except maybe the Tyranids.

    • @seanturner1197
      @seanturner1197 10 місяців тому +1

      @@CyberXHunter
      Wow. I never considered that.
      Ghazkul would also keep tuska the daemon killa company if that scenario played out as well.

    • @whitefam420
      @whitefam420 10 місяців тому

      @@CyberXHunter Ghaz has zero shot of even remotely being able to fight angron. This is silly, the feats of the two are so insanely lopsided that it's not even a fair fight. Angry Ron was destroying battleships in the vacuum of space before promptly destroying Grey knights and a whole damn planet lol
      He also beat the breaks off of leman Russ (the actual primarch of the space wolves) before he was even a demon primarch.

    • @painlord2k
      @painlord2k 5 місяців тому

      @@whitefam420 Leman just drove Angron in a trap, completely surrounded by the Vilka Fenrika and at its complete mercy.

  • @phoenixgear_fried85
    @phoenixgear_fried85 11 місяців тому +5

    the fight that ever body wants

  • @charlottebreckenridge659
    @charlottebreckenridge659 11 місяців тому +11

    Angron is the answer to the question, “why men should go to therapy” but he is one of my favourite of the emperor’s sons Because he is such a deeply tragic figure even if few in the galaxy acknowledge this 😢 Gaz does have good reason to fight him though 😅

    • @Hewrin88
      @Hewrin88 11 місяців тому +3

      not sure if therapy would help with the Butchers Nails. Worth a shot tho!

    • @yadakakadu
      @yadakakadu 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Hewrin88 Unless there is a brain implant called "therapy".

    • @Equinox2149
      @Equinox2149 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@louisnall3102 The guy was about to tear out his own eyes and you give him a legion... Good job Big E

  • @inductivegrunt94
    @inductivegrunt94 11 місяців тому +31

    Angron just sealed his fate when he bloodied his axe with Yarrick's blood. Ghazghkull must be the one to deal the final blow upon the Red Angel and avenge Yarrick's death by Angron's daemonic hands.

    • @Kristian.B.Kristiansen
      @Kristian.B.Kristiansen 11 місяців тому +3

      That is meme lore! It never happened.

    • @TFZ.
      @TFZ. 11 місяців тому +5

      "Dat red GIT done a dir'y deed Boss... 'E killed yer fav'rit nemesis!!!"
      "..."
      *"WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!!!"*

  • @brandonl7759
    @brandonl7759 10 місяців тому +5

    Dude i love this, can we get a full on VS series? Id love to see like Abaddon VS Guilliman or something

  • @awarrior4501
    @awarrior4501 9 місяців тому +3

    Angron is gonna jump at ghazghkull then ghazghkull is gonna hit him with an rko in mid air

  • @codyt.1905
    @codyt.1905 10 місяців тому +1

    I see it more as a large scale engagement, Ghaz hopping out of the warp with a WAAAGH to engage wherever Angron is, inadvertently handing some sort of win to the Imperium, leveling up ghaz to then be maybe the beast level.

  • @citrusorange794
    @citrusorange794 10 місяців тому +2

    Thanks to the Octarius war the Orks despite taking a major loss are even stronger. The Orks vs Word Eaters are going to be one of the main fights for 10th edition.

  • @ashbaharin5276
    @ashbaharin5276 4 місяці тому +1

    Holy cow. Never thought little old me would have his art in one Choyer's videos! EEEEEEEEEEEEE

  • @PandaWolf525
    @PandaWolf525 11 місяців тому +9

    The first mistake Angron made was killing Yarrik. And as Ghaz said once. “Good Enemiz iz Hardz to Com By.”

  • @Zephyrbal
    @Zephyrbal 11 місяців тому +8

    Ghazghkull should defeat Angron and win him as a trophy for Gork and Mork, preventing him from respawning for awhile

    • @painlord2k
      @painlord2k 5 місяців тому

      If Gaz defeat Angron I could see him take the Nails as trophy.
      When Khorne try to take Angron back the Emperor arrives and, without the Nails, take back the original Angron.

  • @morbidone88
    @morbidone88 11 місяців тому +6

    Oh hell yes.. merry xmas to me! Ive been waiting for a video like this to drop and, ofc, its my man Choyer! 💪

    • @morbidone88
      @morbidone88 11 місяців тому +1

      BTW, ANGRON FTW!

    • @TheBookofChoyer
      @TheBookofChoyer  11 місяців тому +1

      Happy holidays Brother! 😃🙌 Thanks a lot for watching!!

    • @morbidone88
      @morbidone88 11 місяців тому +1

      @@TheBookofChoyer always!

  • @andyroberts310
    @andyroberts310 10 місяців тому +3

    I fully believe Gaz would kill Angron at least once and almost wipe out his army in the 8 weeks 8 days and 8 hours it takes for Angron to manifest again. But I can't even comprehend how much larger and stronger Gaz would be at that stage. If he killed Angron a second time I'd wager Gaz would be getting very close to the level of a Krorc and who knows what would happen then.

  • @Enzicks_67
    @Enzicks_67 2 місяці тому +1

    Big E: who killed yah?
    Yarrick: Angron
    Chaos gods: WHAT?
    Khorn: ANGRON DID WHAT?
    Ghaz: you zoggin be pveepared for a WAAAAGGHHHHH!

  • @trolldrool
    @trolldrool 11 місяців тому +16

    In single combat, I think Angron would flatten Ghazghkull like a pancake and then use the flattened remains like a wet blanket to bitchslap his Waaagh! across the galaxy. In a single battle where they both had their full combined forces, as described in the video, at their disposal, it could go either way. If Ghazghkull decided to declare a galaxy wide Waaagh! on Angron, being given the opportunity and time to plan his approach, I think it's more likely that the orks would attack the World Eaters Legion in multiple separate encounters when they were isolated from each other.
    The World Eaters are hardly a unified Legion anymore, fragmented into various independent warbands who can't always be relied on to help each other if one of them comes under attack from, say a massive ork fleet in space. Because of this, it would probably take some time before the World Eaters realized that these weren't just greenskin xenos being greenskin xenos, but an organized attack against their Legion as a whole. And by then, their forces would be so dimished that if not necessarily a guaranteed victory, would give Ghazghkull's Waaagh! a numerical advantage in a final confrontation.

    • @storminmormn6283
      @storminmormn6283 11 місяців тому +5

      Exactly my thoughts. Angron is first and foremost a Primarch. Basically a God amongst men. Now imagine that same Primarch on Warp steroids and a special blessing of the God of Blood and carnage. Gaz is just a huge Ork.

    • @GRIMWOODz
      @GRIMWOODz 7 місяців тому

      ​@@storminmormn6283 When Khorne was nothing but a period stain in some nuns panties from the medieval age GorkaMorkas boyz had already stomped half the galaxy in the war against necrons millions of year’s prior they're the embodiment of destruction itself. Ghaz is their chosen prophet of the 41st millennium said the bring the biggest waaggh of all time (Tyranids) so I wouldn't place your bets just yet.

    • @Trent-m6j
      @Trent-m6j 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@storminmormn6283Gork and Mork are canonically each more powerful than any of the chaos gods. That's why they fight each-other. There are two gods of orkdom just so that the God of orkdom can find a proper fight, because nobody else in the warp can stand up to the waaagh. Nobody else is worth fighting.
      Ghazghkull is the prophet of that God.

    • @blazermettro2059
      @blazermettro2059 23 дні тому

      @trolldrool
      You're not accounting for the Power of the biggest WAAAGGHHH in the history of histories.
      All that ork power, I the Galaxy, behind Ghaz. What then?

  • @lavatun
    @lavatun 10 місяців тому +19

    Honest question:
    Wouldn't the rage sickness angron radiates be a liability against him if he were to face ghazghkull?..

    • @Br0ck3n
      @Br0ck3n 6 місяців тому +7

      Given how WAAAAAAGHS work...
      YES, YES IT WOULD

  • @КонстантинИванов-д1д
    @КонстантинИванов-д1д 11 місяців тому +5

    Book of Choyer delivers. Thanks for the Christmas presents !

  • @markpaloma3914
    @markpaloma3914 11 місяців тому +4

    amazing video thanks for the highlights and summaries.

  • @bigsadge747
    @bigsadge747 11 місяців тому +2

    i would love to see angron get spawncamped by the new hulking and buffed tuska daemonkilla and his also buffed up boyz as a neat end to angrons duel

  • @Ninjahbutter
    @Ninjahbutter 4 місяці тому

    This was a great video. I liked how they go over the characters histories as reference to decide.

  • @bradrankin844
    @bradrankin844 11 місяців тому +5

    If the demon would be defeated, I wonder if the orc with level up with a bunch of demon upgrades all over him for his” prize” of winning the contest!?

  • @anthonyjordanmoviesandmore2470
    @anthonyjordanmoviesandmore2470 10 місяців тому +2

    You know that's something I can see a particularly manipulative Inquisitor doing letting him know Yorick was killed by angron

  • @dang1099
    @dang1099 11 місяців тому +1

    Good video! The part of Angron facing a title gave me chills!

  • @K0sk4
    @K0sk4 3 місяці тому

    Glad to be here. Keep rocking you guys!

  • @huntermad5668
    @huntermad5668 10 місяців тому +4

    Should be noted that the Angel had fought for days then defeated Kabandazh before fighting Angron.
    Angron only fought against near exhausted Angel and got clapped hard.

    • @cellectra3342
      @cellectra3342 10 місяців тому

      The angel had to rip angron's nails out to banish him

    • @huntermad5668
      @huntermad5668 10 місяців тому +1

      And?
      Angron was only so tough because he was juiced up by the carnage on Terra.
      He was like 150% with massive regen.
      When he fought against the Lion, not so tough...
      The Angel was like at 40-50% and he smashed Angron's brain/soul to pieces.
      Sure he was near mortally wounded by he came out on top when it should be be that.

  • @CaptainRumface
    @CaptainRumface 10 місяців тому +2

    Angron gunna hav his teef kicked in wen da boss finds 'im. WAAAAAAAAGHHHH

  • @captain5104
    @captain5104 Місяць тому +1

    Hopefully, they do make a battle between these two happen.....im rootin fer da boiz!

  • @Mika-Fresh
    @Mika-Fresh 11 місяців тому +4

    Merry WAAAGHMAS! 🎄

  • @battleax6364
    @battleax6364 11 місяців тому +1

    Your voice is very soothing and pleasant to listen to

  • @killerzillavolt2655
    @killerzillavolt2655 11 місяців тому +18

    I hope they do meet. This should be the fight that turns Ghazghkull into a Kroark and then "kill" Angron.

    • @Awwscrewit
      @Awwscrewit 11 місяців тому

      Ghaz could potentially permanently kill Angron. Remember, the Orks pre-date the chaos gods and their psychic connection, the Green, comes from the Old Ones. The orks are also the only race that the Warp cannot influence. It's entirely possible that what is called Waaaagh energy could destroy Warp demons.

    • @killerzillavolt2655
      @killerzillavolt2655 11 місяців тому

      @Awwscrewit of course GW wouldn't let Angron permanently die but maybe have Ghaz end Angron's quick respawn and banish him for a long time.

    • @cellectra3342
      @cellectra3342 10 місяців тому

      ​@@killerzillavolt2655The only reason angron has a quick respawn is because khorne is more powerful in the current setting

    • @cellectra3342
      @cellectra3342 10 місяців тому

      Besides, if orks were able to perma kill demons using the excuse they were here before the chaos gods, due to war on heaven, then why haven't it happened orks killed demons in the past. The only race i would understand having the ability to perma kill demons are the necrons due to theit weapons and gear fucking with the warp

  • @entilzha1283
    @entilzha1283 4 місяці тому +1

    Boyz: Wargh!
    Ghaz: No. Yaaaaaarick!!!!
    Boyz: Yaaaaaarrrghick!
    Angron: Oh shiiiit.
    Cue John Wick style fighting

  • @thomask5434
    @thomask5434 11 місяців тому +3

    Fun fact, Angron got killed aka banished by the Angel, some Grey Knights and even old Man Lion el Johnson in his demon form! So he got beaten more since he has become a Demon Primarch than him being a primarch!

    • @themaninblack8271
      @themaninblack8271 11 місяців тому

      Tbf Angron killed millions of Astartes before that fight and Sanguinius is basically primarch Superman during the siege of terra lol he's destroying everyone because he knows where his time ends.
      He killed 100 or so grey knights iirc? I'm pretty sure it was either that or only a handful of the 100 survived to actually banish him.
      Lion was on the back foot the entire time but not only is he one of the best fighters in 40k period (plus a demi god) he mostly survived due to tactics and literally being protected by the emperors shield that was blast Angrons attacks back at him he was quite specific the daemon was more powerful but a mindless beast.

    • @thomask5434
      @thomask5434 11 місяців тому

      @@themaninblack8271Anyway, beaten by some Grey Knights and an old man. They should have sent Kharn!

    • @TheLonesomePagan.
      @TheLonesomePagan. 10 місяців тому

      @thomask5434
      Yes after slaughtering over 100 gray nights they had to use a extremely powerful psycher to break his weapon so they'd have even a remote chance to banish him and the lion who is probably one of the strongest primearcs just barely beat him and even then it was some topical GW plot armor bullshit. Also killed a greater demon like it was nothing.

  • @seatonking8136
    @seatonking8136 10 місяців тому +2

    They need to fight it out. The poles were close so its still down to casualties. Either way Khorne will have the popcorn ready haha

  • @pakornwattanavrangkul2550
    @pakornwattanavrangkul2550 10 місяців тому +1

    It all comes down to how much warp energy is avalible

  • @jamesdeek7039
    @jamesdeek7039 5 місяців тому +1

    I want to see ghazkhul beefed up by his own gods, give angron a proper krumpin

  • @ya_boi_swigg8431
    @ya_boi_swigg8431 9 місяців тому +3

    Ghaz finds out Angron killed Yarrick: “Swiggity Swooty I’m coming for that angry booty!”

  • @cmorales018
    @cmorales018 7 місяців тому +2

    DA BOYZ COMIN FOR DAT RED GIT

  • @ApexBovine
    @ApexBovine 10 місяців тому +7

    I think angron's plot armour is thicker than ghazgull's, unfortunately. it would still be the fight of his life and maybe even cripple him in some way, but the primearchs - even traitor ones - are intrinsic to the 40k lore. I'm kind of hopping it was all a ploy by yarrick to kill 2 birds with one stone and ghazzgull gets a kick out of it.

    • @rasmus97able
      @rasmus97able 10 місяців тому

      i had the same thought, hope ghaz wins and we get to see him flipping out when yarrick pops out after the fight

  • @michaelhowell2326
    @michaelhowell2326 11 місяців тому +1

    I'm pulling for Maggie Thatcher, for sure.

  • @Holammer
    @Holammer 9 місяців тому

    I want to see Ghaz crumpin' Angron unceremoniously like a chump. Gently remove Yarrick's skull from his belt and deliver a heartfelt soliloquy worthy of Shakespeare.
    Not only because it's a funny ass mental image, but I imagine the Waaagh he assembles to deal with the Red Git will be legendary. The psychic gestalt growing to the point with Ork power and sophistication unseen since the War of the Beast. The sky blotted out by Attack moons.

  • @therealcutman
    @therealcutman 11 місяців тому +1

    I really enjoy this channel ! Well told fam👐🏾

  • @MachinimaGothic
    @MachinimaGothic 11 днів тому +1

    I wonder if orcs can resurrect Yarrick by their psychic faith alone. Thinking about him like an human God. Also its interesting for me if orcs faith and their recognition of god emperor of mankind somehow boost big e

  • @shimazutakuma1031
    @shimazutakuma1031 10 місяців тому +4

    When yarrick becomes "York" the third "ork god" XD

  • @PardonMe-s4u
    @PardonMe-s4u 15 днів тому

    0:14 "On one side, there's Angron, the Blood Angel"
    Me: wait a minute

  • @ragemachine8601
    @ragemachine8601 10 місяців тому

    Cuts to the battle field!
    World Eaters clashing with Mek and Ork boys. All you hear over the roar of very planet,
    " WHERE IS ANGRON! Bring that red git to me!" Gun cannons firing as he lays waste to a platoon of marines.
    Angron arrives crashing to the battle field, charging the ork warboss. Weapons clang and clash.
    Ghazghkull " GIVE HIM BACK! HE WAS MY ENEMY!"

  • @shimazutakuma1031
    @shimazutakuma1031 10 місяців тому +1

    does that mean.. you have "8 weeks, 8 days, and 8 hours" to truly kill angron? wherever he is in the warp anyway, maybe Jagatai could do it

  • @nocturnaljoe9543
    @nocturnaljoe9543 11 місяців тому +5

    How much is 4 barrelz, boss?

  • @dylanjordan535
    @dylanjordan535 11 місяців тому +3

    Dat big red git iz gonna regret doin in ol bale eye i tell ya! WAAAAAGH!

  • @sixgunsymphony7408
    @sixgunsymphony7408 10 місяців тому +1

    The Orks are going to overwhelm and utterly destroy the XII Legion.

  • @imperatorlightoneous1382
    @imperatorlightoneous1382 11 місяців тому +3

    Angron would definitely win. Remember hes a primarch and Gazghull almost got destroyed by a mere astartes of the zulu emboku chapter

    • @oldsport4029
      @oldsport4029 10 місяців тому

      And now he’s got an upgraded body that we have 0 lore on. We do not know what he is capable now. Tabletop he is one of the strongest units rn, able to 1v1 primarchs and come out on top half the time.

  • @Motolmang
    @Motolmang 6 місяців тому

    I wish GW would make an expansion set for Orks and world eaters and do this fight kinda like how the leviathan set was for nids vs ultramorons
    I wanna see the World Eater and Ork (best choice) players absolutely tear into one another.

  • @therealcutman
    @therealcutman 11 місяців тому +2

    Give one on Gork & Mork brother 🙏🏾👐🏾
    Your Welcome 😉👐🏾

  • @digunder14
    @digunder14 3 місяці тому

    if i recall correctly ghazghkull headbutted a warp gate closed, not sure the size of it, but regardless, that is impressive given it was just him headbutting it, nothing else

  • @jacktripper3728
    @jacktripper3728 10 місяців тому +3

    If Angron's aura of Berserking causes any creature to go into a full blown blood rage. The thought of any Ork, or any qarboss, little alone Ghazghskull Thrakka... they would be a battle that would last either for a long time or the quickest fight in 40k history considering that Ghazghskull would use that fury and rage to just focus on Angron

  • @moodyowlproductions4287
    @moodyowlproductions4287 10 місяців тому +1

    Ghazghkull"I'Z WILL'Z FIND'Z YA ANGRON"!!!!!!!

  • @81greenknight
    @81greenknight 11 місяців тому +1

    This is a great idea.

  • @kristopherstrait4672
    @kristopherstrait4672 10 місяців тому +1

    One on one I think angron would win. With full armies the orcs win just from sheer numbers, angron wouldn't be able to kill and block all of them. They would were him down and land enough wounds to kill him but it would be a very rough fight and there's a high likely good ghaz would die in that fight again

  • @d3AdLyf3
    @d3AdLyf3 10 місяців тому

    This was cool. I'm a lore hound. Saint to some, autist to others lmao.
    Srs tho, I appreciate good lore, presented well, and videos like this truly draw a line in the sand daring lesser creators to do better lol.
    Well done.

  • @balintmagyar3285
    @balintmagyar3285 9 місяців тому

    Though I'm a huge Ghazghkull Thraka maniac, honestly doubting he could kill Angron. It would be an immense battle between the two of course.

  • @DarthWolfen077
    @DarthWolfen077 10 місяців тому +1

    can we please get an animated movie of the entirety of the Horus Heresy? please... please... please!!!