People Shouldn’t judge When She was only 14 and good for her to regain her control by telling her stories because believe me her story is saving lives all these years later
Let's not forget this was 1969. 'Stranger danger' wasn’t a widely taught concept back then-it didn’t really start being emphasized until the 70s. Back then, kids didn’t always tell their parents about things either, because mistakes were often punished instead of being used as teaching moments. On top of that, if a girl was SA’d, the blame was often placed on her rather than the abuser, even more so than what we sadly see today. Society was very different, and unfortunately, kids often didn’t feel safe speaking up.
So many things we didn't tell our parents back then, because "dumb" was a punishable offense. Hope parents today are more understanding and approachable
Yup. More worried about getting in trouble for even stopping to talk to a stranger. My dad was off the chain so any hesitation would have been so my dad didn’t catch a case.
I’m from the UK, one winter afternoon on a very cold and rainy day I got off the school bus ( I was ten years old and it was dark) on a busy road full of houses, I suddenly felt a man behind me, I quickened up,he quickened up, I went faster he did too, between a couple of houses there was an alleyway which ultimately led to a field and an abandoned railway track it occurred to me he planned to pounce and take me down it, I ran as fast as I could and he did too I felt his breathe on my neck, I didn’t stop until I reached my house about ten minutes away, I think he given up after we had passed the alley way entrance but I didn’t chance it. I fell into the house out of breathe and scared and all my mother said was who’d want to attack you!
This man was really sick. He kidnapped an 8 year old beat her brutally with a bar and raped her. The little girl was in a coma for over a month. If the judicial system did its job he should have put him in prison for life and there wouldn't have been all these other victims.
The story of that little girl is so heartbreaking. Thank God that the police followed up right away when that man witnessed Alcala pick up little Talia.
As a teenager,in the seventies, I was stopped by a man who was very Ted Bundy-ish looking in Bridgeport, Connecticut. He was driving a large,dak green station wagon, and stopped to ask me directions to the local mall because he said that he was a photographer, who was doing a job at the mall. I pointed the direction to the mall, and the next thing I know, he was out of his car, standing next to me and asked me if I wanted to get in and show him the way to the mall and he would take my picture. He pointed to camera equipment in the back of the wagon and kept standing very close to me. I told him "no thank you" and went into the pharmacy on the corner to get away from him because I became scared. Thank God I listened to my gut because I always thought that he was probably a serial killer.
Sounds like the guy who was from Australia originally but lived in the USA..but was indeed a serial killer and would say he was a fashion photographer at shopping Malls and then kidnap and kill them I'm sure around the time you where young. I cant remember his name and I'm sure he got killed whilst being arrested..But he killed a few young teen girls and this was his mo to lure them to come with him. Horrible Evil Man!!
In the 1980s, during my travels in the United States as a young Canadian, I experienced an incident that has stayed with me. While I was walking to a corner store, a kind woman sent her son to escort me back to my motel room. He informed me, "My mom says to stay in your room tonight, as white girls have been going missing recently." This occurred in Seattle, in a neighborhood that was later known to be associated with the Green River Killer. I only became aware of this context recently after watching a true crime story. Thank you to that family who helped a stranger for no other reason than kindness.
I had car trouble and had to walk a ways on a busy highway. A Guy stopped and ofcered me a ride. He was very Stoic and unfriendly In an odd way. All of his seats were removed in the car except the front. It just felt really CREEPY. So I refused the ride! I was thankful it was a busy road!
One time my Preteen Daughter and I went to Winnepig. We went to the Horae Races. We odered food and went to a table where we were standing. I walked about 30 Feet to get Napkins etc. When i returned to the Table, some Guy in his late 30s was standing next to my Daughter eating her food and making Conversation. I stood and stared at him scowling. He got uncomfortable and left. Its been over 20 yard now but he felt to me like a Trafficker. It was Bizarre how quick he swooped in! Still gives me the Creeps! Scarey!
Trust your instincts and don't be afraid to be rude. That is so hard for women and for me. We need to make sure that our daughters now what to do when their instincts tell them to getaway. As she told her story I thought about all his victims that probably had the same feelings but ignored them. So very sad.
Depending on the person, being rude can actually make things WAY worse because of a bruised ego. They can end up doing things to get back at them for rejecting their advances. You literally have to play a mental game of chess with a psychopath because the wrong move can send them off.
That's exactly what security expert Gavin de Becker said in his book "The Gift of Fear". He said if someone makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up, there's a reason and to pay attention to those involuntary responses. They are there TO PROTECT YOU.
@@maiamystiaunfortunately what you say is very true. That’s why there’s flight/fight/freeze/and FAWN response in a dangerous situation. Sometimes we have to smile and laugh our way out, fawning over them to get the hell out of the situation so that they don’t hurt us
All interviews go this way, even when celebs are interviewed. The other person has to always be thinking of questions to ask and try and get info. It is so annoying though
I think part of the problem here was that they were pressed for time, and TH wanted to make sure that they got all the most important details before time ran out. If they'd had more time, TH probably wouldn't have interrupted as much. // Also, when people aren't used to being in front of an audience or cameras, the adrenaline kicks in, and sometimes you just start rambling about stuff that isn't important. So if it's a live (not edited) interview, the interviewer may have to interrupt to get you back on the most important part of the story. I think that's what TH did when AF started talking about the detective who encouraged her to visit the killer. TH cut her off because that part of the story was less important than other parts she wanted to get to, like the story of the actual discussion with the killer.
They do a pre-interview. She obviously needed help to get thru her story. Many times they can get stuck on tiny details as they are going back thru the trauma in real time. It also helps them feel comfortable not having to lead.
IMO what appears to be interrupting is just the host trying to get as much info in a short allotment of time. I don't watch her show but I'm sure she had other guests and topics to cover in under an hour.
I can imagine a million things that could have happened to her at 14 y/o in that serial killer’s apt and on the roof top. God bless her, thankful she’s alive to warn everyone.
She should be held accountable for not using her common sense, and not going on a rooftop with a weird guy. In addition, she should have told her parents, they might have had him arrested.
Sometimes ppl with trauma can have difficulty sharing. To me she seemed to pause, as if stuck in a thought when the interviewer helped her along...maybe?
@@Emilia-tx3zwWe know that. The producers need to get this feedback from viewers so perhaps they decide to schedule less guests and the host doesn't need to be rude in order to get to the end of the story.
What planet are you on? Animals can be very cruel. Male lions & even male domestic cats, Bears, & wild stallions have been known to kill other females children, to Get to the mothers. Let alone all the carnivores. Chimpanzees & male mallard ducks rape. You need to read more.
I’m the same age. I turned 14 in ‘69. I grew up in the San Fernando Valley and, even at 14, I would hitchhike. One place I would “thumb” a ride to was a park near Spahn Ranch, where Manson and his followers hung out. I feel very fortunate that nothing bad ever happened to me. I had a few close calls but was always able to get out of it.
Yikes! Spahn Ranch! You could’ve ended up being recruited by the crazy Manson Family into their cult! My friends and I were 13 in 1969 and we hitchhiked all over the San Fernando Valley. Looking back, I can’t believe how stupid-and how lucky-we were that nothing happened to us. Maybe it’s because we usually did it together.
@ - I would have been an easy target for them. I had a terrible home life snd the idea of “freedom” would have been appealing to me. Where in the valley did you live? I mostly lived in Van Nuts, Sepulveda snd Panorams City.
My sister was kidnapped and escaped from a man in Pratt Is in the late 80's...years later, after his arrest and appearances on news stories, she's certain that it was him. It was a terrifying experience for her and the rest of our family.
Follow your gut instinct. Back in the day, I was waiting for a cab at Saint Joseph's Hospital in Phoeniz AZ. It was daytime, and I was in front of a clinic with my son who is special needs. At that time we had a serial shooter on the loose as well as the Baseline Rapist Serial Killer. A man was across the street watching us. Everytime I looked up at him he would turn his head as if he wasn't watching. He had a shirt wrapped around his head, with skidproof shows on and had a basket with wheels on it. It was the kind of basket that you take to the store when you have to put lots of groceries in it. I thought that he was homeless but it was a disguise. After a while, he ran across Thomas Rd. and stood 15 feet close to us. He would look up and look around. My intuition said stand, face him. So, I stood up on my tippy toes, faced him and started jiggling my son's formula in my back to use it to throw it at him. I said a prayer of protection, then a lady and her son walked up from between two buildings at the time, he was moving stuff around in his basket and I could see the but of a gun. He looked me square in the eyes and at the point, I had realized that it was the Baseline Rapist Serial Killer. I was determined to make a lot of noise and mess if need be. He looked at me and walked away. My cab came, I called the hotline on the way back home to Tempe. A day and a half later, Maricopa County Sheriffs Dept had called me back to say that they went and looked at the tape, and yes it was him, the Baseline Rapist Serial Killer. I would see him on Tuesdays at the clinic and would call, and give a description everytime I saw him. No one else could see him and I had imagined that I was going crazy BUT MCSO would look at the tapes and see that it was him. After a while I was no longer afraid and prayed that we were protected from him. After a while, they found him living not far from Saint Joseph's Hospital. Follow your gut instinct and keep your head on a swivel.
You would call on Tuesdays but all the cops did was check footage later when they felt up to it? After checking the footage the first time you called, having proven yourself to be a credible witness who _accurately knows_ when it’s him, why in the world did they not fly to the location you were providing them with each call? To collect him at your 2nd call, or 3rd call? Did it not matter how many chances you provided them to make an arrest? I’m just baffled and confused why Phoenix Police just sat on your calls… ?
When I was 8 year old...i was walking home with my sister. I was wearing a name tag with my name. A man approached me and said "Lisa?" I looked at him; he said "your mom told me to show you something" I believed him and followed him to his white van. My sister who was walking ahead of me; turned around, RAN and screamed "Lisa DONT GO WITH HIM" I turned around fast and ran to my sister. 1- I never buy my kids anything with her name or initials on it. 2- Sibblings are angels
It's an old trick. I am sure coming down from the roof he made an excuse to go into his apartment and she fell for it. Clearly not the street smartest move but she also broke a bunch of rules. Don't leave a crowded area, don't go anywhere private so the roof wasn't really any better... she just got lucky, he didn't feel like killing at that moment.
If you saw her go back for the book in a movie you'd think, aww come on! but her story goes to show that people do do ridiculous things under pressure.
I can understand that, as not thinking straight under pressure. But why go back AGAIN after all these years? After getting away as a teen then learning what he’d done to so many, I’d never want to see him again!!
In the 1990s there was a serial killer whose MO was to troll for women driving cars with female name vanity plates on the highway. He would signal them to stop and claim that something was wrong with their cars, then offer to take them to “get help,” killing them after they accepted. During this time, a good friend, who had a vanity plate with her name on it, drove one of the expressways he frequented to pay me a visit. When she arrived, she asked me to follow her car around the block and tell me if something appeared to be wrong with it (she had a specific issue in mind, but I don’t remember what it was). After I assured her everything was fine, she told me about a man who approached her at the expressway rest stop after signaling her. He told her that she had a car problem and offered a ride, which she declined. She had no clue that it could have been a ruse. I was shocked and horrified and begged her to call the police and report it, but she seemed to just put it out of her mind. To this day I am convinced that she narrowly avoided becoming another victim of this killer. 😬
As a parent to a fourteen year old, this is just that extra bit terrifying to hear. I think I’ve raised my child with the knowledge to avoid these kinds of situations, and I know I’ve done all I can to give them a sense they can tell me about anything, but every time my kid goes out into the world without me, there’s that feeling of being unable to protect them directly and it sucks. I know I gotta gradually extend the leash, but it’s not easy, especially after watching true crime content!
@ I was at an amusement park and was riding the little rollercoaster. I was getting off wanted to keep riding it. So I asked the man who I thought worked there if I could just stay on and ride it again. He said to come with him and he would take me to his boss and give me all the rides I wanted. So he took my hand and started walking me towards an old looking shed type building but just then thank God my Dad ran up to me and said to come back here. I was actually mad at my Dad 🤦🏻♀️. I’m sure it was Randy Alcala. I thought the man was so handsome. When my Dad approached he just took off real fast. When I got older I recognized his photo and I researched the time periods and locations. I’m lucky to be alive and I’m grateful to have had my Dad save me.
He just yelled at his own daughter like she’s the one cooking up trouble, “Get back here!” but you were a child…🙈Did he just let that guy go about his merry way??
@@candicane1 the pit in my stomach when I heard that! It was as if I forgot for a quick second that the girl was this woman who is still alive in front of me telling her story!
My daughter is 35 now and I always brought her up to be aware, keep herself safe, and could tell me anything without me getting angry or judgemental. Because of things that had happened to me It was so important that she knew I would always be there for her and she could come to me about anything.
@@sjohnson65456 . I know exactly what you mean, my heart dropped when she mentioned returning. I was thinking that she let herself be a prey especially since she could now attest to his character.
This has to be one of the most frustrating interviewers ever. Is she always like that? She wouldn't let her speak, she would get ahead of the interviewee, she led the answers... extremeley aggravating
I can see why this host kept emphasizing she's 14 years old. She was "extremely fortunate" that he didn't grab her. See how quickly her first instinct to run, was completely dismissed because she was more concerned about getting in trouble for going with this stranger. We have to teach our children differently. I rather have my child with me than focus on a book that can easily be replaced.
My point exactly, don't tell mom and dad....why????? Your parents will understand and give you a good talking to, but you would have learned a vital lesson.
A friend and I just wanted to enjoy a nice sunny day at the beach our first year in college when some weirdo approached me saying he was a photographer and wanted to take my picture. I said “no thank you”. He told me “you could be a model”. I responded, “I don’t want to be a model. Have a nice day.” I’m very grateful my mother raised me to be skeptical. I also learned to always drive myself so I could leave whenever I wanted, to call the campus police for an escort to my vehicle and always be aware of my surroundings. Now I learned self defense. Stay safe ladies!
She appears still shaken after all these years. She needs to be allowed to talk stop being interrupted. I get the sense that she feels guilt for surging.
I think she was trying to keep the story going and had time limitations in mind. Sometimes people get too caught up in details that can drag out a story.
I remember something scary like that and i also felt a sense of his control over me. He somehow almost pulled me to his apartment up these stairs when a man walked by and i broke free. I was picked up from the library too i was very bookish. He talked to me about books and asked me to walk with him and gave me a juice. I somehow was being dragged up to his apartment and felt his charm Fade to angry eyes. I know always that i was lucky and i was trusting too trusting for my own good. Thank god, god saved me too.
Super scary! Many years ago I was walking home from school and a man pulled up by the sidewalk askin for directions. I stayed on the side walk a d gave him the directions. He then asked me if I wanted a ride, a said no and kept walkin. He was Axel Rose looking and I am very "hip hop" for lack of better description. I found it odd and im glad I avoided getting close to the car
I got propositioned by a male when i was 22 , i was very much pregnant but hid it well , this person said his truck was over there and he needed workers for a job and that his business cards were in his truck if i could walk over to his truck.... my friend came outside and cursed him out asking what was he doing asking a pregnant woman to go to his truck the guy looked stunned and backed off. We called the cops and nothing came out of it but i was a very naive girl if my friend wouldnt have came out i wouldve walked off with him, not wanting to hurt his feelings and most likely gotten raped or killed or both.
@@DeniseCoelhoEnglishForLifeHe gives you a free will either you listen to your gut feeling or you don’t there is always consequences to your actions and they are not always good.
"Everybody looks like a human but not everybody is a human." - Alice Feiring. And we've got a bunch of bobblehead dudes staring into space searching for them. 🙄🛸
Always listen to your gut. It's an instinct for survival, that we as humans so often dismiss. There was a man watching me in a gas station. My whole body reacted before I noticed him. I waited for him to walk away so I could run. I jumped in my car, locked the door and put it in reverse. He came running from behind the store and started violently trying to open the door screaming I better let him in. I kicked the gas pedal because I was willing to run over him. Another instance, my friend was dating a guy that sent chills through my body. I told her he's dangerous. He ended up stabbing her to death. And I had a man demanding me to get in his truck. I started running into traffic screaming. He figured I wasn't going down easy and got out of there. Always listen to your instincts. It's literally life or death.
I think the moral of her story and recounting her experience is a way to explain the mentality of the women who might have trusted him and did exactly what she did. They fell victim, perhaps to their sense of ignorance (not stupidity) about the true nature of what someone is capable of. We all try to give people the benefit of the doubt because we want that for ourselves. And I think that perhaps the world wasn't nearly as dangerous then as it is now and I absolutely agree with her, be wary and aware.
This type of random encounter with maniacs is not as unusual as some people may think. They are not frothing at the mouth and howling at the moon. They can put on a mask of normalcy when necessary to trap a target. I remember walking home alone one evening years ago, and a car slowed down. It seemed like he was trying to ask me directions, so I started walking towards the car to hear him more clearly. Suddenly, I felt in my spirit to not take one more step towards that car. I turned around and walked away as quickly as possible. It’s sad that we have to have our guard up constantly, but it is what it is.🥺
"Everyone looks like a Human, but not everyone is Human" . 99.9% of you have no idea how impactful that statement is. My family and I were victims of a violent home invasion robbery, and the two perpetrators were NOT Human. They were animals !
Oh yes agree he absolutely remembered her, but psychos know what a person wants n love to not give it, part of controlling the situation n enjoying the frustration they give by not answering. Sicko.
The visiting him in prison part…I think I’m that intuitive that I would want to visit too. Just to know. Just to see what made his brain work that way.
This interview was ridiculously rushed. She couldn't even explain more than a short sentence about her actual visits with the killer. Very annoying to click on this video and watch it because it didn't cover the subject on the title. 👎
If I had to guess, the reason he didn't hurt/kill her when she returned.... 1) He never expected her to come back once she escaped so there was no thought to plan for that scenario and 2) For serial killers, sometimes they have to be in the "mood" as strange as that sounds. Strange correlation but think about what it's like when you're about to get down with your partner. Maybe you light some candles, the clothes start to come off, everything's starting to get hot and heavy. Then your mother calls unexpectedly. After 10 minutes on the phone with mom.... we're back to the task at hand, but suddenly the magic ain't so magic anymore. The mood is ruined. That's kind of what (I'm guessing) it's like for killers. They get all pumped up and 'in the mood' then the girl gets away and it doesn't happen. Even if the girl suddenly comes back... the mood is ruined. I think this lady got very lucky.
Jesus the crowd gasping at this woman’s choices is horrible. Talk about shaming her. She’s brave enough to get up there and share her story. You can tell she feels a lot of shame and guilt. Have some empathy and not gasp when someone tells you about decisions they made.
Thinking about the-orange-clown and how many women he has sexually assaulted got me thinking About the times I was preyed upon by men! I'm now a senior -and by age 22 I had experienced 5 sexual assaults or sexual assault ‘attempts’. One was actually what I call a “date rape”.
The same thing almost happed to me but I was adult. I was at Barns and Nobles looking for some books for my little cousin. Well a guy kept looking at me, then asked am I’m a teacher. For one thing that was a stupid question. Because I have a disability where I’m not able to speak. It’s not that hard to not know that by looking at me. But anyway I used my iPad and told him no. Then he started saying how pretty I was. I said thanks then told him I had to go. I didn’t feel safe staying in that store. So I went and pay then left, yes I can drive thank God. I saw him again 3 days later, but this time at Walmart. Again he tried hitting on me, and asking do I live alone and where. I said yes but lied about the town that I was living in. Before I walked away this time, he asking me for my number. I said sorry but no I never saw him again. Then there was another time when I was a teenager I was walking to my friend house. And on the way there a car pulled next to me and asked where’s the hospital. I pointed that way then kept walking. Well he didn’t drive off he slowly followed me then pulled over again. This time he asked could I help him find his dog. For some stupid reason I said yes. So as he was coming out of his car, I finally felt scared and shake my head and went back the way that I was heading. And as he got back into his car he wouldn’t stop following me up and down the street. Looking back I should had gone into the pizza shop and asks them to call my mom but I didn’t. So as I got near the street that my friend lived on. I slow down and waited until he passed me again and out of sight. Then ran as fast as I could before he turn around and came back. I never saw him again thank God. My friend dad took me back home after, I was too scared to walk back.
I remember when I was young, my mother told me about "bad" men. In my mind, they were ugly and scary. Then I saw the "All the Family" episode where Edith almost gets raped in her own home. The guy was sooo good looking. I had never pictured a bad man as being good looking.
Could she have written him a letter instead is what I'm thinking? I'm not sure I would want to be in the same room with someone like him, no matter how many years have passed.
The not wanting to be rude is a real thing. If a woman doesnt show interest were suddenly snoody B****es. Ive gotten in situations i didnt want to be in just because im trying to be nice.
We also used to answer our door without knowing who was on the other side. When I was about 7, I still remember my Mom answering the door to everyone all the time. SHE DID NOT WANT TO BE RUDE and always bought something from the salesmen. My Dad finally told her she did not have to answer the door for anyone and things changed then. Even at that young age I knew my Mother must have been so brainwashed to be so proper and behave nicely. Some doorbell rings had her grabbing me to stand behind a wall to make sure the man at the door did not see that we were at home and being so incredibly rude as to not answer the door to him! Nuts... she would also need to run to and answer the only phone in the house too. We didn't have call display then or even the sense to just let it ring! I'm in my 70s now and have video surveillance cameras plus call display on phones. We now have given ourselves permission to be slightly rude because - so what? Our safety is more important.
I left home at 16 and went to a large city in New Zealand. I was very naive. One day a friendly man asked to take photographs of me for modelling work. I was very attractive in those days, so it could be believable. I wasn’t much of a Christian, but I gave him some quotes from the Bible, for some reason, then left the scene. I’ve thought about it since and believe I had a lucky escape from….?
I am so happy you ended up being safe and honestly , you were a tough girl , but also naive. Teens in the 60’s were apparently different than the teens of the 80’s , because I would have not been anywhere near some man who approached me at 14, or even 18. lol. I’ve had weird men approach me , as I think most women have and I have gotten away from them right away. Wow , you were very lucky!
This woman reeks of wanting some kind of relationship with this psychopath! Sadly there are no shortage of women/people like this so I really hope she gets consistent therapy!
Hall might be the single most obnoxious host I've ever watched. This poor woman literally could not get out a thought before she interrupted her.....again. She should win awards for her inability to run an interview.
In the late 70’s, I was with a friend when an elderly man, I was about 17, and he said he was a photographer and he would like to take photos of me. I also thought it was strange cause I was not a really pretty girl. So I declined.
She probably went because she had not been taught in detail who and what to avoid. For instance, a co-worker of mine told her daughters to never get into a strange man's car, even if he had a gun. That is how children should be taught about danger: with specific instructions.
After watching this i had a memory of bein 9 and went in an apt with a man. Luckily he just showed me his gun which had mother of Pearl on it. Im glad he wasnt a killer
What were in the photos? Did the women look kidnapped or dead already? If so, perhaps she could've had her brother take her to the authorities to help others and possibly still leave the parents out of it.
@@jflo2012 exactly. I feel like just about everything I watch today has the most obvious elements missing. Is it just me? I feel like media is on a collective crazy making campaign sometimes.
I read the true crime book about him, highly recommend for those of you who like to read. This guy was a monster. It's been a while since I read the book but from what I remember, the pictures were a mix of just girls standing, clothed, and some partially clothed , I don't think he took pics of them after he killed them. Of course probably a few of them looked scared I'm sure.
I think the downfall and murders of a lot of women is that from the time we are very little girls, we are taught to be nice….basically taught to be people pleasers (at least for my generation it feels that way. I was born in 1965). As an adult, I’ve read so many true crime stories and watched so many tv shows about murders….and I really have formed the opinion that being too nice has gotten so many women and young girls into very dangerous situations, that end up costing them their lives! Now, I’m not saying that’s the case with all murders. Obviously, women who are s** workers and women living out on the streets have a much higher risk of something horrible happening to them. About 6 years ago, someone tried to abduct my 26-year-old daughter. She was out mowing her front lawn, when an old beat up white enclosed van quickly pulled up in her driveway, and some middle-eastern looking guy jumped out and came running towards her, yelling at her to come here! Come here! She screamed NO, and ran for her front door, quickly let herself in, and bolted her door. She grabbed her loaded gun, opened the door and started firing over top of the guys head as he was advancing towards her front door. He turned and ran as fast as he could back to his van, and got gone in a hurry! She immediately called me and her dad, and we asked if she’d gotten a license plate number, but unfortunately she did not because everything was happening so fast. So it’s a very dangerous world we live in…women aren’t even safe in their own front yards! People need to stop teaching their children to be too nice and too trusting!!!
I rarely watch the Tamron show, she's an annoying interviewer. She interrupts every sentence. I get that sometimes it has to be done because of time but every sentence?!
Im curious if she took a picture of herself from that time period to her visit with him. She looks so different with orange hair. Also, he never forgot once she told him the story. Her looks didnt ring a bell, but people like him d9nt forget those women/girls. Shes still naive.
People Shouldn’t judge When She was only 14 and good for her to regain her control by telling her stories because believe me her story is saving lives all these years later
People shouldn't judge ANYTHING a 14-year old girl does. I'm a guy and I admit that I wasn't legally sane until I turned 24 or so.
Let's not forget this was 1969. 'Stranger danger' wasn’t a widely taught concept back then-it didn’t really start being emphasized until the 70s. Back then, kids didn’t always tell their parents about things either, because mistakes were often punished instead of being used as teaching moments. On top of that, if a girl was SA’d, the blame was often placed on her rather than the abuser, even more so than what we sadly see today. Society was very different, and unfortunately, kids often didn’t feel safe speaking up.
@@t-babyyupressed2906 yes crazy how victims are judged
So many things we didn't tell our parents back then, because "dumb" was a punishable offense. Hope parents today are more understanding and approachable
Yup. More worried about getting in trouble for even stopping to talk to a stranger. My dad was off the chain so any hesitation would have been so my dad didn’t catch a case.
I’m from the UK, one winter afternoon on a very cold and rainy day I got off the school bus ( I was ten years old and it was dark) on a busy road full of houses, I suddenly felt a man behind me, I quickened up,he quickened up, I went faster he did too, between a couple of houses there was an alleyway which ultimately led to a field and an abandoned railway track it occurred to me he planned to pounce and take me down it, I ran as fast as I could and he did too I felt his breathe on my neck, I didn’t stop until I reached my house about ten minutes away, I think he given up after we had passed the alley way entrance but I didn’t chance it. I fell into the house out of breathe and scared and all my mother said was who’d want to attack you!
This man was really sick. He kidnapped an 8 year old beat her brutally with a bar and raped her. The little girl was in a coma for over a month. If the judicial system did its job he should have put him in prison for life and there wouldn't have been all these other victims.
Did they know it was him (Rodney Alcala) that kidnapped, beat and raped that 8-y-o??
The story of that little girl is so heartbreaking. Thank God that the police followed up right away when that man witnessed Alcala pick up little Talia.
Omg 8😢😢
Her parents refused to go to Court and moved to Mexico. That did not help.
@ - Oh, that’s right. I remember now. They didn’t want their daughter subjected to more trauma by having to testify.
As a teenager,in the seventies, I was stopped by a man who was very Ted Bundy-ish looking in Bridgeport, Connecticut. He was driving a large,dak green station wagon, and stopped to ask me directions to the local mall because he said that he was a photographer, who was doing a job at the mall. I pointed the direction to the mall, and the next thing I know, he was out of his car, standing next to me and asked me if I wanted to get in and show him the way to the mall and he would take my picture. He pointed to camera equipment in the back of the wagon and kept standing very close to me. I told him "no thank you" and went into the pharmacy on the corner to get away from him because I became scared. Thank God I listened to my gut because I always thought that he was probably a serial killer.
good job for staying alert and listening to your gut feelings.
Sounds like the guy who was from Australia originally but lived in the USA..but was indeed a serial killer and would say he was a fashion photographer at shopping Malls and then kidnap and kill them I'm sure around the time you where young. I cant remember his name and I'm sure he got killed whilst being arrested..But he killed a few young teen girls and this was his mo to lure them to come with him. Horrible Evil Man!!
😱😱 OMG ! Your life was spared!! 😮
Do you think it was Ted Bundy?
Ted Bundy did go to the East Coast at one point, I believe.
In the 1980s, during my travels in the United States as a young Canadian, I experienced an incident that has stayed with me. While I was walking to a corner store, a kind woman sent her son to escort me back to my motel room. He informed me, "My mom says to stay in your room tonight, as white girls have been going missing recently." This occurred in Seattle, in a neighborhood that was later known to be associated with the Green River Killer. I only became aware of this context recently after watching a true crime story. Thank you to that family who helped a stranger for no other reason than kindness.
I had car trouble and had to walk a ways on a busy highway. A Guy stopped and ofcered me a ride. He was very Stoic and unfriendly In an odd way. All of his seats were removed in the car except the front. It just felt really CREEPY. So I refused the ride! I was thankful it was a busy road!
One time my Preteen Daughter and I went to Winnepig. We went to the Horae Races. We odered food and went to a table where we were standing. I walked about 30 Feet to get Napkins etc. When i returned to the Table, some Guy in his late 30s was standing next to my Daughter eating her food and making Conversation. I stood and stared at him scowling. He got uncomfortable and left. Its been over 20 yard now but he felt to me like a Trafficker. It was Bizarre how quick he swooped in! Still gives me the Creeps! Scarey!
Trust your instincts and don't be afraid to be rude. That is so hard for women and for me. We need to make sure that our daughters now what to do when their instincts tell them to getaway. As she told her story I thought about all his victims that probably had the same feelings but ignored them. So very sad.
Yes! This!
Depending on the person, being rude can actually make things WAY worse because of a bruised ego. They can end up doing things to get back at them for rejecting their advances. You literally have to play a mental game of chess with a psychopath because the wrong move can send them off.
That's exactly what security expert Gavin de Becker said in his book "The Gift of Fear". He said if someone makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up, there's a reason and to pay attention to those involuntary responses. They are there TO PROTECT YOU.
@@maiamystiaunfortunately what you say is very true. That’s why there’s flight/fight/freeze/and FAWN response in a dangerous situation. Sometimes we have to smile and laugh our way out, fawning over them to get the hell out of the situation so that they don’t hurt us
@@h3artands0uLLthat’s like the only way out of those situations!
Tamron Hall, please let your guest that experience this speak on it. You spoke on nearly half of this interview.
All interviews go this way, even when celebs are interviewed. The other person has to always be thinking of questions to ask and try and get info. It is so annoying though
@jessieb7290 Yes, I understand. Thanks for responding respectfully. T.H seemed not to let her finish or start her answers.
I think part of the problem here was that they were pressed for time, and TH wanted to make sure that they got all the most important details before time ran out. If they'd had more time, TH probably wouldn't have interrupted as much. // Also, when people aren't used to being in front of an audience or cameras, the adrenaline kicks in, and sometimes you just start rambling about stuff that isn't important. So if it's a live (not edited) interview, the interviewer may have to interrupt to get you back on the most important part of the story. I think that's what TH did when AF started talking about the detective who encouraged her to visit the killer. TH cut her off because that part of the story was less important than other parts she wanted to get to, like the story of the actual discussion with the killer.
They do a pre-interview. She obviously needed help to get thru her story. Many times they can get stuck on tiny details as they are going back thru the trauma in real time. It also helps them feel comfortable not having to lead.
The host should just let Her guest tell Her own story. Stop interrupting her story.
Right? It was enfuriating
YES
IMO what appears to be interrupting is just the host trying to get as much info in a short allotment of time. I don't watch her show but I'm sure she had other guests and topics to cover in under an hour.
Right?! So annoying!!
That’s one thing I dislike about this show.
I can imagine a million things that could have happened to her at 14 y/o in that serial killer’s apt and on the roof top. God bless her, thankful she’s alive to warn everyone.
She should be held accountable for not using her common sense, and not going on a rooftop with a weird guy. In addition, she should have told her parents, they might have had him arrested.
She interrupted her so much. She couldn’t even finish a sentence.
TV host have talking points to cover under a strict time constraints.
Sometimes ppl with trauma can have difficulty sharing. To me she seemed to pause, as if stuck in a thought when the interviewer helped her along...maybe?
It looks like editing cuts to me
@@Emilia-tx3zwWe know that. The producers need to get this feedback from viewers so perhaps they decide to schedule less guests and the host doesn't need to be rude in order to get to the end of the story.
@@dariustremaine6784If so, they need a new editing team
Please do not call him an ANIMAL. Animals do not wantonly rape and murder. Men do.
Dolphins do.
not true.
What planet are you on?
Animals can be very cruel.
Male lions & even male domestic cats,
Bears, & wild stallions have been known to kill other females children, to
Get to the mothers.
Let alone all the carnivores.
Chimpanzees & male mallard ducks rape. You need to read more.
Some do
I’m the same age. I turned 14 in ‘69. I grew up in the San Fernando Valley and, even at 14, I would hitchhike. One place I would “thumb” a ride to was a park near Spahn Ranch, where Manson and his followers hung out. I feel very fortunate that nothing bad ever happened to me. I had a few close calls but was always able to get out of it.
Yikes! Spahn Ranch! You could’ve ended up being recruited by the crazy Manson Family into their cult!
My friends and I were 13 in 1969 and we hitchhiked all over the San Fernando Valley. Looking back, I can’t believe how stupid-and how lucky-we were that nothing happened to us. Maybe it’s because we usually did it together.
@ - I would have been an easy target for them. I had a terrible home life snd the idea of “freedom” would have been appealing to me. Where in the valley did you live? I mostly lived in Van Nuts, Sepulveda snd Panorams City.
@@grumpyoldlady_rants Praise God, He brought you through it all, the rough family and the wolves of the world!
@@qbconnect2883yes protected for sure !! Angels and guides too!
My sister was kidnapped and escaped from a man in Pratt Is in the late 80's...years later, after his arrest and appearances on news stories, she's certain that it was him. It was a terrifying experience for her and the rest of our family.
So glad she escaped!! 😢
Follow your gut instinct. Back in the day, I was waiting for a cab at Saint Joseph's Hospital in Phoeniz AZ. It was daytime, and I was in front of a clinic with my son who is special needs. At that time we had a serial shooter on the loose as well as the Baseline Rapist Serial Killer. A man was across the street watching us. Everytime I looked up at him he would turn his head as if he wasn't watching. He had a shirt wrapped around his head, with skidproof shows on and had a basket with wheels on it. It was the kind of basket that you take to the store when you have to put lots of groceries in it. I thought that he was homeless but it was a disguise. After a while, he ran across Thomas Rd. and stood 15 feet close to us. He would look up and look around. My intuition said stand, face him. So, I stood up on my tippy toes, faced him and started jiggling my son's formula in my back to use it to throw it at him. I said a prayer of protection, then a lady and her son walked up from between two buildings at the time, he was moving stuff around in his basket and I could see the but of a gun. He looked me square in the eyes and at the point, I had realized that it was the Baseline Rapist Serial Killer. I was determined to make a lot of noise and mess if need be. He looked at me and walked away. My cab came, I called the hotline on the way back home to Tempe. A day and a half later, Maricopa County Sheriffs Dept had called me back to say that they went and looked at the tape, and yes it was him, the Baseline Rapist Serial Killer. I would see him on Tuesdays at the clinic and would call, and give a description everytime I saw him. No one else could see him and I had imagined that I was going crazy BUT MCSO would look at the tapes and see that it was him. After a while I was no longer afraid and prayed that we were protected from him. After a while, they found him living not far from Saint Joseph's Hospital. Follow your gut instinct and keep your head on a swivel.
😮😮😮
Boy, you must have had a whole squad of linebacker angels surrounding you. That is chilling.
You would call on Tuesdays but all the cops did was check footage later when they felt up to it? After checking the footage the first time you called, having proven yourself to be a credible witness who _accurately knows_ when it’s him, why in the world did they not fly to the location you were providing them with each call? To collect him at your 2nd call, or 3rd call? Did it not matter how many chances you provided them to make an arrest? I’m just baffled and confused why Phoenix Police just sat on your calls… ?
When I was 8 year old...i was walking home with my sister. I was wearing a name tag with my name. A man approached me and said "Lisa?" I looked at him; he said "your mom told me to show you something" I believed him and followed him to his white van. My sister who was walking ahead of me; turned around, RAN and screamed "Lisa DONT GO WITH HIM" I turned around fast and ran to my sister.
1- I never buy my kids anything with her name or initials on it.
2- Sibblings are angels
I’m confused, I thought they were on the roof, didn’t she say she wasn’t going into the apartment?
They must have jumped cut the story to shorten it ..
It's an old trick. I am sure coming down from the roof he made an excuse to go into his apartment and she fell for it. Clearly not the street smartest move but she also broke a bunch of rules. Don't leave a crowded area, don't go anywhere private so the roof wasn't really any better... she just got lucky, he didn't feel like killing at that moment.
As be was naked by the time she ran out the door, perhaps this is why he didn't follow her and then quickly handed her the book. She got lucky.
If you saw her go back for the book in a movie you'd think, aww come on! but her story goes to show that people do do ridiculous things under pressure.
That is something a kid would do. She did not have life experience. She was concerned about getting in trouble with her dad.
I can understand that, as not thinking straight under pressure. But why go back AGAIN after all these years? After getting away as a teen then learning what he’d done to so many, I’d never want to see him again!!
@@alfonzomoore2421
Absolutely for fear of getting in trouble from her father.
I would have received a belting from my father for “losing” the book
@@lakep7798closure.
@@lakep7798- Probably because she’s a journalist and wrote an article about it.
In the 1990s there was a serial killer whose MO was to troll for women driving cars with female name vanity plates on the highway. He would signal them to stop and claim that something was wrong with their cars, then offer to take them to “get help,” killing them after they accepted. During this time, a good friend, who had a vanity plate with her name on it, drove one of the expressways he frequented to pay me a visit. When she arrived, she asked me to follow her car around the block and tell me if something appeared to be wrong with it (she had a specific issue in mind, but I don’t remember what it was). After I assured her everything was fine, she told me about a man who approached her at the expressway rest stop after signaling her. He told her that she had a car problem and offered a ride, which she declined. She had no clue that it could have been a ruse. I was shocked and horrified and begged her to call the police and report it, but she seemed to just put it out of her mind. To this day I am convinced that she narrowly avoided becoming another victim of this killer. 😬
What a brave 14 year old and woman.
I say moreso, blessed.
Stupidity came first and then again! The words "brave" and "hero" (in other cases) are being used far too often, and incorrectly.
She was not brave. She was just desperate to get that book back.
Alice, you have a very important message. You should speak to kids in schools to explain how “humans are not always human.” Well said.
As a parent to a fourteen year old, this is just that extra bit terrifying to hear. I think I’ve raised my child with the knowledge to avoid these kinds of situations, and I know I’ve done all I can to give them a sense they can tell me about anything, but every time my kid goes out into the world without me, there’s that feeling of being unable to protect them directly and it sucks. I know I gotta gradually extend the leash, but it’s not easy, especially after watching true crime content!
I watched that film. Anna Kendrick did a great job and the film scared the hell out of me.
I agree
Woman of the Hour@@sweetbeauty2153
@@sweetbeauty2153woman of the hour is the name of the movie
Thinking of this young girl knocking on his door to get her book back, after narrowly escaping, made me laugh. It's so innocent.
Scarey
I would have left that damn book there!
Just when I cancelled my Netflix to save money...now I'm going to have to rejoin to watch this
It was rlly good. I was surprised. Anna Kendrick did great
@@GooinBoots Really want to see it
I feel you! But it’s so worth it. Quit Netflix next month.
@@BlueJeansTarot Yeah I think I'll have to
It was a good film really enjoyed it x
I had an encounter with him in August of 1977 in the Poconos in Pennsylvania when I was 11.
Glad you are still here🙏. What happened?
@ I was at an amusement park and was riding the little rollercoaster. I was getting off wanted to keep riding it. So I asked the man who I thought worked there if I could just stay on and ride it again. He said to come with him and he would take me to his boss and give me all the rides I wanted. So he took my hand and started walking me towards an old
looking shed type building but just then thank
God my Dad ran up to me and said to come back here. I was actually mad at my Dad 🤦🏻♀️. I’m sure it was Randy Alcala. I thought the man was so handsome. When my Dad approached he just took off real fast. When I got older I recognized his photo and I researched the time periods and locations. I’m lucky to be alive and I’m grateful to have had my Dad save me.
@@thecurethetop- I’m so glad your dad came when he did. That’s so scary.
😮 so scary @@thecurethetop
He just yelled at his own daughter like she’s the one cooking up trouble, “Get back here!” but you were a child…🙈Did he just let that guy go about his merry way??
She was very blessed! We have to train kids early that the “book” can stay right where it got lost.😇
I was fathomed when she said she went back to a creepy naked guy’s apartment for a book. 😩
@@candicane1 the pit in my stomach when I heard that! It was as if I forgot for a quick second that the girl was this woman who is still alive in front of me telling her story!
My daughter is 35 now and I always brought her up to be aware, keep herself safe, and could tell me anything without me getting angry or judgemental. Because of things that had happened to me It was so important that she knew I would always be there for her and she could come to me about anything.
@@sjohnson65456 . I know exactly what you mean, my heart dropped when she mentioned returning. I was thinking that she let herself be a prey especially since she could now attest to his character.
@@Moonshadows_Musings everyone needs parents like that. Just that alone shapes SO MUCH of who we become as adults.
This has to be one of the most frustrating interviewers ever. Is she always like that? She wouldn't let her speak, she would get ahead of the interviewee, she led the answers... extremeley aggravating
That's why I don't watch her shows
How do you not watched her shows? This is an interview, not a monologue!
I think she was trying to keep the story moving along, because the guest seems scattered, and nervous.
I agree..very unprofessional..she's horrible
I can see why this host kept emphasizing she's 14 years old. She was "extremely fortunate" that he didn't grab her. See how quickly her first instinct to run, was completely dismissed because she was more concerned about getting in trouble for going with this stranger. We have to teach our children differently. I rather have my child with me than focus on a book that can easily be replaced.
My point exactly, don't tell mom and dad....why?????
Your parents will understand and give you a good talking to, but you would have learned a vital lesson.
A friend and I just wanted to enjoy a nice sunny day at the beach our first year in college when some weirdo approached me saying he was a photographer and wanted to take my picture. I said “no thank you”. He told me “you could be a model”. I responded, “I don’t want to be a model. Have a nice day.” I’m very grateful my mother raised me to be skeptical.
I also learned to always drive myself so I could leave whenever I wanted, to call the campus police for an escort to my vehicle and always be aware of my surroundings. Now I learned self defense. Stay safe ladies!
Tamron interrupted her so much, I never even heard Alice’s story. Jeez.
She appears still shaken after all these years. She needs to be allowed to talk stop being interrupted.
I get the sense that she feels guilt for surging.
I think it’s bc she’s a journalist. This is a very interesting story from a journalism standpoint.
Why does the interviewer keep interrupting the woman..it was so broken up.
I think she was trying to keep the story going and had time limitations in mind. Sometimes people get too caught up in details that can drag out a story.
I remember something scary like that and i also felt a sense of his control over me. He somehow almost pulled me to his apartment up these stairs when a man walked by and i broke free. I was picked up from the library too i was very bookish. He talked to me about books and asked me to walk with him and gave me a juice. I somehow was being dragged up to his apartment and felt his charm
Fade to angry eyes.
I know always that i was lucky and i was trusting too trusting for my own good. Thank god, god saved me too.
Omg, how old were you when this happened?
Super scary! Many years ago I was walking home from school and a man pulled up by the sidewalk askin for directions. I stayed on the side walk a d gave him the directions. He then asked me if I wanted a ride, a said no and kept walkin. He was Axel Rose looking and I am very "hip hop" for lack of better description. I found it odd and im glad I avoided getting close to the car
I got propositioned by a male when i was 22 , i was very much pregnant but hid it well , this person said his truck was over there and he needed workers for a job and that his business cards were in his truck if i could walk over to his truck.... my friend came outside and cursed him out asking what was he doing asking a pregnant woman to go to his truck the guy looked stunned and backed off. We called the cops and nothing came out of it but i was a very naive girl if my friend wouldnt have came out i wouldve walked off with him, not wanting to hurt his feelings and most likely gotten raped or killed or both.
😮😮 So glad for her. He was horrible!!
This was divine intervention 🙏
For some reason god just didnt feel like intervene with the other victims
@@DeniseCoelhoEnglishForLifeHe gives you a free will either you listen to your gut feeling or you don’t there is always consequences to your actions and they are not always good.
"Everybody looks like a human but not everybody is a human." - Alice Feiring. And we've got a bunch of bobblehead dudes staring into space searching for them. 🙄🛸
Always listen to your gut. It's an instinct for survival, that we as humans so often dismiss. There was a man watching me in a gas station. My whole body reacted before I noticed him. I waited for him to walk away so I could run. I jumped in my car, locked the door and put it in reverse. He came running from behind the store and started violently trying to open the door screaming I better let him in. I kicked the gas pedal because I was willing to run over him. Another instance, my friend was dating a guy that sent chills through my body. I told her he's dangerous. He ended up stabbing her to death. And I had a man demanding me to get in his truck. I started running into traffic screaming. He figured I wasn't going down easy and got out of there. Always listen to your instincts. It's literally life or death.
I just watched this yesterday. It's sad how he got away with so many murders
It's tragic!😥
I think the moral of her story and recounting her experience is a way to explain the mentality of the women who might have trusted him and did exactly what she did. They fell victim, perhaps to their sense of ignorance (not stupidity) about the true nature of what someone is capable of. We all try to give people the benefit of the doubt because we want that for ourselves. And I think that perhaps the world wasn't nearly as dangerous then as it is now and I absolutely agree with her, be wary and aware.
This type of random encounter with maniacs is not as unusual as some people may think. They are not frothing at the mouth and howling at the moon. They can put on a mask of normalcy when necessary to trap a target.
I remember walking home alone one evening years ago, and a car slowed down. It seemed like he was trying to ask me directions, so I started walking towards the car to hear him more clearly. Suddenly, I felt in my spirit to not take one more step towards that car. I turned around and walked away as quickly as possible.
It’s sad that we have to have our guard up constantly, but it is what it is.🥺
Good to trust your instincts!
Child logic, thats why she went back for the book.
Fear of getting in trouble from dad.
My father would have belted me for losing the book!
"Everyone looks like a Human, but not everyone is Human" . 99.9% of you have no idea how impactful that statement is. My family and I were victims of a violent home invasion robbery, and the two perpetrators were NOT Human. They were animals !
Probably should have reported him to the police.
She did!!
That’s what the movie is about. Tons of women came forward but the police would do nothing
The tree remembers what the axe forgets
Great interview, Tamron. Horrifying. Thank you for sharing.
tamara let her talk
Bulsh¡t he didnt remember her! He knew goddamn well who she was.
Creep.
Oh yes agree he absolutely remembered her, but psychos know what a person wants n love to not give it, part of controlling the situation n enjoying the frustration they give by not answering. Sicko.
He assaulted so many women. Quite possibly he did not remember each one. They wouldn’t be individuals/ people in his mind.
Please!!!! Let her tell her story!!!
Why have a guest if you are going to tell their story for them??
The visiting him in prison part…I think I’m that intuitive that I would want to visit too. Just to know. Just to see what made his brain work that way.
This interview was ridiculously rushed. She couldn't even explain more than a short sentence about her actual visits with the killer. Very annoying to click on this video and watch it because it didn't cover the subject on the title. 👎
Let her tell her damn story!!
As an interviewer, you should really know who you are interviewing. Let the guest talk..share the story, stop pushing the story. The host is horrible
If I had to guess, the reason he didn't hurt/kill her when she returned.... 1) He never expected her to come back once she escaped so there was no thought to plan for that scenario and 2) For serial killers, sometimes they have to be in the "mood" as strange as that sounds.
Strange correlation but think about what it's like when you're about to get down with your partner. Maybe you light some candles, the clothes start to come off, everything's starting to get hot and heavy. Then your mother calls unexpectedly. After 10 minutes on the phone with mom.... we're back to the task at hand, but suddenly the magic ain't so magic anymore. The mood is ruined.
That's kind of what (I'm guessing) it's like for killers. They get all pumped up and 'in the mood' then the girl gets away and it doesn't happen. Even if the girl suddenly comes back... the mood is ruined. I think this lady got very lucky.
Jesus the crowd gasping at this woman’s choices is horrible. Talk about shaming her. She’s brave enough to get up there and share her story. You can tell she feels a lot of shame and guilt. Have some empathy and not gasp when someone tells you about decisions they made.
Always listen to your gut instincts & never ever be afraid to say no to someone because your safety matters.
This is a horrifying story...Thank goodness you didn't become a victim.
Thinking about the-orange-clown and how many women he has sexually assaulted got me thinking
About the times I was preyed upon by men!
I'm now a senior -and by age 22 I had experienced 5 sexual assaults or sexual assault ‘attempts’.
One was actually what I call a “date rape”.
Good grief Tamron learn to let the person tell her own story
She should have got answers from her Guardian Angel, not that weirdo... God protected her !!!
So she needs to summon the guardian angel and ask questions? 😂
OMG 0:30 ,I grew up in Huntington Beach.. wow.
lol, I used to be obsessed with Huntington Beach because I always wanted to run into the guys from Avenged Sevenfold. 😂
Tamron, whoever she is, needs to let the guest speak, DAMN!
he came into my families apt. in anahiem calif. when i was 11... i was alone and just got out of the shower. God saved my life.
😮
What happened
The same thing almost happed to me but I was adult. I was at Barns and Nobles looking for some books for my little cousin. Well a guy kept looking at me, then asked am I’m a teacher. For one thing that was a stupid question. Because I have a disability where I’m not able to speak. It’s not that hard to not know that by looking at me. But anyway I used my iPad and told him no. Then he started saying how pretty I was. I said thanks then told him I had to go. I didn’t feel safe staying in that store. So I went and pay then left, yes I can drive thank God. I saw him again 3 days later, but this time at Walmart. Again he tried hitting on me, and asking do I live alone and where. I said yes but lied about the town that I was living in. Before I walked away this time, he asking me for my number. I said sorry but no I never saw him again.
Then there was another time when I was a teenager I was walking to my friend house. And on the way there a car pulled next to me and asked where’s the hospital. I pointed that way then kept walking. Well he didn’t drive off he slowly followed me then pulled over again. This time he asked could I help him find his dog. For some stupid reason I said yes. So as he was coming out of his car, I finally felt scared and shake my head and went back the way that I was heading. And as he got back into his car he wouldn’t stop following me up and down the street. Looking back I should had gone into the pizza shop and asks them to call my mom but I didn’t. So as I got near the street that my friend lived on. I slow down and waited until he passed me again and out of sight. Then ran as fast as I could before he turn around and came back. I never saw him again thank God. My friend dad took me back home after, I was too scared to walk back.
Angels were watching over her that day! Thankfully!!!❤
So, the angels weren't looking after the many other women who didn't get away? 🤔
@anovemberstar I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend anyone. It seems a miracle she wasn't a victim. That's all.
I seen that movie it was so good. You see got away from that guy was so clever
I remember when I was young, my mother told me about "bad" men. In my mind, they were ugly and scary. Then I saw the "All the Family" episode where Edith almost gets raped in her own home. The guy was sooo good looking. I had never pictured a bad man as being good looking.
There are, but there are a lot of evil beautiful women as well.
So annoying the interviewer kept interuppting....she didn{t let the lady answer
Her dad was across the street getting a haircut. Why didn’t she just cross the street and go in there?
I had the same thought. But there's no going back in time to change things.
Jesus was with her
I think it's strange how she wanted to go and see him
Could she have written him a letter instead is what I'm thinking? I'm not sure I would want to be in the same room with someone like him, no matter how many years have passed.
@@lovemalika Exactly! I was like wth would she even want to go and see him?🤷♀️😳😳Very odd!🤦♀️🤔
She should call the book, "I Kept Going Back."
And kept going back! 🤔
she went back because she’s a journalist and wanted to write a book
Tamron girl you were pissing me off here 🤣🤣🤣 Let her tell the story!!!!
Tamron needs to let her guest finish her statements before cutting her off
In the NYC case it was never solved until the Dating Game Killer confessed after convicted of another murder in California sometime in the early 2000.
"you can love everyone but it doesnt mean you have to go out to lunch with a cobra". Byron Katie
Tamron, let the woman speak! You interrupted her so much she couldnt finish her thoughts. Annoying and frustrating to watch.
We love your show tamron hall
The not wanting to be rude is a real thing. If a woman doesnt show interest were suddenly snoody B****es. Ive gotten in situations i didnt want to be in just because im trying to be nice.
We also used to answer our door without knowing who was on the other side. When I was about 7, I still remember my Mom answering the door to everyone all the time. SHE DID NOT WANT TO BE RUDE and always bought something from the salesmen. My Dad finally told her she did not have to answer the door for anyone and things changed then. Even at that young age I knew my Mother must have been so brainwashed to be so proper and behave nicely. Some doorbell rings had her grabbing me to stand behind a wall to make sure the man at the door did not see that we were at home and being so incredibly rude as to not answer the door to him! Nuts... she would also need to run to and answer the only phone in the house too. We didn't have call display then or even the sense to just let it ring!
I'm in my 70s now and have video surveillance cameras plus call display on phones. We now have given ourselves permission to be slightly rude because - so what? Our safety is more important.
Tamron Hall just allow others to talk!
I left home at 16 and went to a large city in New Zealand. I was very naive. One day a friendly man asked to take photographs of me for modelling work.
I was very attractive in those days, so it could be believable. I wasn’t much of a Christian, but I gave him some quotes from the Bible, for some reason, then left the scene. I’ve thought about it since and believe I had a lucky escape from….?
I am so happy you ended up being safe and honestly , you were a tough girl , but also naive. Teens in the 60’s were apparently different than the teens of the 80’s , because I would have not been anywhere near some man who approached me at 14, or even 18. lol. I’ve had weird men approach me , as I think most women have and I have gotten away from them right away. Wow , you were very lucky!
Tamron!!! SHUT UP! SERIOUSLY
Couldn't you live without knowing?
So did she find out “WHY he didn’t kill her”?!?? 🤨🧐 or the host DIDNT let her speak ?
I think he just said that he didn't remember her. She could have asked why he did not always kill every girl he knew.
Let people talk, Tamron!
This woman reeks of wanting some kind of relationship with this psychopath! Sadly there are no shortage of women/people like this so I really hope she gets consistent therapy!
She’s a journalist, so I think that’s probably the reason. It’s a compelling story.
I cant believe he was still alive decades later and not yet put to death.
She needed answers and closure.
Hall might be the single most obnoxious host I've ever watched. This poor woman literally could not get out a thought before she interrupted her.....again. She should win awards for her inability to run an interview.
In the late 70’s, I was with a friend when an elderly man, I was about 17, and he said he was a photographer and he would like to take photos of me. I also thought it was strange cause I was not a really pretty girl. So I declined.
What about the photos alerted her? Why didn't the host ask that?
In the movie the women in the pics are dead and naked and possibly in bad condition if i remember right.
Why at 14 would you go with an older man into his apartment? You are so lucky!
She probably went because she had not been taught in detail who and what to avoid. For instance, a co-worker of mine told her daughters to never get into a strange man's car, even if he had a gun. That is how children should be taught about danger: with specific instructions.
@JudiKerestan because that's what teenagers do when they think they know everything.
Because she's 14??
After watching this i had a memory of bein 9 and went in an apt with a man. Luckily he just showed me his gun which had mother of Pearl on it.
Im glad he wasnt a killer
What were in the photos? Did the women look kidnapped or dead already? If so, perhaps she could've had her brother take her to the authorities to help others and possibly still leave the parents out of it.
Yeah. Why didn’t tamron ask what was frightening about the photos?
@@jflo2012 exactly. I feel like just about everything I watch today has the most obvious elements missing. Is it just me? I feel like media is on a collective crazy making campaign sometimes.
I read the true crime book about him, highly recommend for those of you who like to read. This guy was a monster. It's been a while since I read the book but from what I remember, the pictures were a mix of just girls standing, clothed, and some partially clothed , I don't think he took pics of them after he killed them. Of course probably a few of them looked scared I'm sure.
I don't know how he didn't remember that particular situation especially when she came back for her book! Seriously! It's very odd!
I think the downfall and murders of a lot of women is that from the time we are very little girls, we are taught to be nice….basically taught to be people pleasers (at least for my generation it feels that way. I was born in 1965). As an adult, I’ve read so many true crime stories and watched so many tv shows about murders….and I really have formed the opinion that being too nice has gotten so many women and young girls into very dangerous situations, that end up costing them their lives! Now, I’m not saying that’s the case with all murders. Obviously, women who are s** workers and women living out on the streets have a much higher risk of something horrible happening to them.
About 6 years ago, someone tried to abduct my 26-year-old daughter. She was out mowing her front lawn, when an old beat up white enclosed van quickly pulled up in her driveway, and some middle-eastern looking guy jumped out and came running towards her, yelling at her to come here! Come here! She screamed NO, and ran for her front door, quickly let herself in, and bolted her door. She grabbed her loaded gun, opened the door and started firing over top of the guys head as he was advancing towards her front door. He turned and ran as fast as he could back to his van, and got gone in a hurry! She immediately called me and her dad, and we asked if she’d gotten a license plate number, but unfortunately she did not because everything was happening so fast. So it’s a very dangerous world we live in…women aren’t even safe in their own front yards! People need to stop teaching their children to be too nice and too trusting!!!
I rarely watch the Tamron show, she's an annoying interviewer. She interrupts every sentence. I get that sometimes it has to be done because of time but every sentence?!
Im curious if she took a picture of herself from that time period to her visit with him. She looks so different with orange hair. Also, he never forgot once she told him the story. Her looks didnt ring a bell, but people like him d9nt forget those women/girls. Shes still naive.