How To Defeat a Narcissist in Any Argument
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
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chapters
00:00 introduction
00:56 Step 1 :- predicting their move before you make any move !
05:36 Step 2 :- you cannot change a Narcissist's perspective
09:28 Master co-parenting Course
09:53 The conclusion
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Oh Danish exactly 💯 this all. Nobody around me saw it. 2 in my life started to see very late. After see patterns I thought still I was crazy. Many stages to go before getting out. Cause they use every tool they can use. 😢❤ thnx
The goal should not be to win because the narcissist, whether it wins or loses, will ALWAYS win in its demented mind.
So true. They love to use the line that they don't care what other people think. But I beg to differ I'm married to one and they want to control everyone around them to think like they do
‘It’ ? 😂
@@PJM1879 Absolutely.
“it”…yep
Yes, "it"
They can’t win if you don’t play.
Not true unfortunately. Not true at all. These people are your bosses, parents, siblings etc etc. We must know how to deal with these deeply sick people. We can't avoid them in every situation. So we have to know how to win. Not just how to leave.
Never get into a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent!
They are not sick, just evil😢
@@emmabarrett9951 why not both?
I've always wanted to witness an argument between TWO narcissists of equal mental capacity.
Actually, mental capacity had little involvement; just screaming at full volume in each other's faces! (My older siblings and spouses).
I’ve seen it my husband and my daughter’s father-in-law one goes on and on and the other sits like a chicken 🐔 till the other one starts slightly scared but they both want you to top up the story both losers in the end my one left me with no fault of my own but he did me the biggest favour in my life after 40 yrs I’m free 🙏🏼
😂 😂
It’s impossible would just be a screaming match before it got violent!
Check out the political candidate debates. Watch two megachurch televangelist pastors discussing who's more righteous.
Dont engage with them,for your own peace of mind.
Silence speaks volumes to a Narcissist ! ! ! !
I always wonder what excuses they make to their other victims for our cold, permanent absences?
A narcissist is so desperate to win and be totally in control, but in actuality deep down to their core, they are totally out of control. The ultimate end game they fail to recognize is that they can't win so no need to argue with them. The real winners are the victims and survivors who take a stand by leaving and take back their own power, control and peace.
But it is difficult when you are facing off with them in a court battle and they position you as the abuser because of reactive abuse and themselves as the fragile victim. Lawyers do not understand these people.
@@kerrytaggart8206 I hear what you are saying and I am sorry for the pain you are going through. Everyone who has dealt with a narcissist has their own story and we are each trying to move forward and to heal. I experienced a similar situation as you many years ago with my narc ex husband and the court system. He was a vice-president of an international bank and very wealthy. Long story short....I left with my son and with the clothes on our back. I couldn't fight him b/c of his status, wealth, lies and manipulative tactics. It was a long, hard road but I had to cut my losses in order to provide a safe, healthy environment for my son and I. And so, that's what I did and haven't looked back. I know in my heart if I would have stayed, I wouldn't have survived it. Social media didn't exist at the time to look for these answers.
@@kerrytaggart8206 I hear what you are saying and am sorry for the pain you are enduring. Anyone who has experienced narcissist abuse has their own story and we are all working hard in order to move forward and heal. I had a similar experience to your story many years ago with my narc ex husband and the court system. He was of very high status at an international bank, very wealthy, knew how to hide his money and play the system using his narcissist ways and manipulation tactics. I had to leave (flee) with my son with only the clothes on our back. It was a long, hard road but I had to cut my losses in order to provide a safe, healthy environment for us. And...we did it and took back our power, control and peace. Looking back now over 30 years later, was the only solution we had. I know in my heart that I wouldn't have survived if I would have stayed and fight him. Social media wasn't available to look for answers. I also know I'm not alone as there are likely many others who may have had a similar experience. I wish you the very best. God Bless
❤❤❤❤ 11 months NARC FREE 5/25/24. Best decision ever.
I grew up with Narcissists and what works for me is simply saying "That's on you." They inevitably try to turn the tables and put it on me and if I don't let them it makes them crazy. I will just keep saying it if necessary but that usually shuts them down quickly. This way I don't get triggered and I walk away.
With all this new technology, I think we need to wear micro body cams and/or recorders then claim early Alzheimer's and request to record the conversation for future self reference. Most will RUN away.
Good reply 💪🏽💯🗣️
I too survived narcissistic parents. For me finally as an adult being able to operate and respond within healthy boundaries for myself has kept me from being hurt and keeps them from manipulating me. They do try regularly to manipulate me back in.. but it feels good to stand in my safe space and not operate in their broken down system of manipulation.
Silence confuses and worries them
If we watch them - theyre stupidly funny 😂
Yes! And eventually ' Predictable! Once I started to see patterns , I thought I was crazy. At the other had I started researching it. I didn't even know what ' narcissism ' was .
They are 💯🙌🏽
Always have a detached attachment with narcissistic family members when you cannot go no contact
Absolutely.
Amen 🙏
everything my narc demon father and other narcissists say is so non-sensical, vicious and devilish, it just never made sense to me. i live by the slogan "i know what i know and what i dont know, i dont know". if i dont understand someone, i just dont understand them. if they are attacking me, instigating against me, gossiping about me, whatever, and i dont understand their motives or i am powerless, then its just the way it is. i wudnt recommend this strategy to anyone though because there is a lot of resignation in this attitude too. if someone has the power to fight and energy for all the mud slinging that comes with dealing with mentally sick ppl, then go for it. its wiser to not fight with demonic pigs though. u might get dirty.
"bye, Felicia" and walk away into the sunset, laughing and smiling. You "win" by choosing yourself finally!
This is my last push to wrap everything up and be done with him once and for all. He was silent after I gave him my counter to his seperation agreement so I said I was getting a lawyer. He was silent with lawyer too so I said I was going to court. I need support on how to negotiate to win!!! Day 5 of inner child work Danish! Pretty powerful stuff❤
Be proud of yourself. This takes courage. Focus on the peace you will have with him out of your life. Hugs Wendylou!🎉🎉🎉
Rebecca Zung is an attorney on Utube who tells how to negotiate with a narcissist.
Force everything to go through your lawyer. EVERYthing. Do not negotiate directly with him. That's the lawyer's job. Have all the records, proof. documents.and give that to the lawyer. No talking, no phone, no texts, nothing. Finally, stay somewhere he can't get to you.
I’ve been 100% no contact with my alcoholic covert narcissistic sister. Everything is perfectly fine with me 🙏😎❤️
Good for you ❤🙏🏼
The best you don´t take part in it. (Because otherwise it is an endless exhausting circle with leads to nowhere)... You can´t win because they don´t even listen and care for you. (They are not even interested in problem-solving). All they are interested is themselves - how they use you and reach their goals. So even talking with such people is wasting your time (because they always put themselves in the middle and talk hours and hours how good they are and so on). Not worth it!
So smart! Helpful and strategic for empaths! Thank you AGAIN Dear @Danish.
Whenever you feel that the conversation is going off limits and lying starts, audio record it in your mobile as a proof.
There are some apps which audio record even when the mobile is locked and screen is off. It really helps.
6:52 Very true! Explaining to the narcissist what they did wrong is absolutely pointless. Chances are, they know full well why they’re in the wrong, but will never admit it.
Soooo true. I've spoken to the mask! I've been taken 'off guard' - a few times upon meeting someone, or in a new relationship/acquaintance. But, who hasn't fallen for this? However, each 'repeat of this' grows our knowledge and ability to 'read into' a little closer and sooner. Hope I said all this clearly😊. TY, Danish. Great video!
Really
The narcissists are not smart when it comes to arguments with me. I cornered him many times. There is no way that I will allow him to win. He tried but out of frustration of losing all the time. He starts screaming, but that too l exposed him. He knows I'm not the person he can control. You have to know how to do it. So sad, his mother and his sister, including himself, are narcissists. I will not allow his family gang on me.
How do you do it? How do you “win” im curious myself and I know there’s a way to win against these insecure ass narcissists.
I can't get out of the cycle of trying to explain to him, how his behavior is. I spend 24/7 thinking of ways to get through to him, what is his doing is wrong. He admits he is emotionally abusing me, but thinks it's ok. Thanks for the video.
Not win. Leave. Go away. Forever. Done.
It's very fun to call out their maneuvers, mock them, laugh at them, and then cut the transaction short with something like "Well this was fun but I think I left the oven on..."
My Narc tried contacting me again after months. It didn't last. I put down heavy boundaries and told him I'm not a source of entertainment. I gave myself value and he couldn't handle it. He discarded me immediately after he was wounded. I sent him a long message and he sent me one saying he was not going to bother reading it. Lol it was so childish. I laughed at the fact that he just had to have the last word. I didn't waste my time. I plan on ignoring him so much that it drives him up the wall.
Wow! Great advice. It is a game, ever interaction. Silence and preparation before the interaction is key.
Yep ' you go through many stages before you get out ' it's really hard ❤
I do talk cause i must express. But to the narc everything you say they see and react like youre in a stupid ' COMPETITION ' i don't compete with anyone cause, ' nobody is perfect ' plus my life shouldn't be a BATTLE ' 24/7. exhausting! ❤😢
Even when defeating them you must protect yourself from their anger because it can get physical
When I feel the exhaustion of arguing, listening to his lied delusiond,filthy language, etc.... i just go silent and remove myself from his being
This is so true. My older sister is the mini version of my dad. I had to take a stand. Many NPd people are selfish. My sister only thinks about herself. Not others. She disrespected and makes belittling others. They are dramatic and start conflict very easily. Just cut off contact. She belittle everyone and I really believe that comes from a demonic spirit
I write in german, because this is to difficult for me in english.😂
Als ich bei der letzten Aktion vom Narzissten von Herzen gelacht habe, sah ich Schock auf seinem Gesicht. Ich kann mich ärgern, aber kurze Zeit später kann ich mich entscheiden, diesen Ärger nicht länger zuzulassen. Es tangiert mich nicht mehr, weil ich weiss, was er von mir will und das bekommt er nicht mehr.
True. You have to approach any conversation with a narcissist with a goal of not getting emotional and being strategic about the end goal, of course if you have to deal with them. The best option is no contact.
Thank you 🙏
Danish, can u cover the topic of 'Do u have to become a narcissist to deal with a narcissist'.
Yes I discovered this on my own but being the Leo that I am I couldn't keep quite any longer. One day I cursed him back so bad he blocked me. I said thank goodness, he's gone! 😊 Narcissist wants to feel wanted and I made him feel like thee opposite. These demons feed on your pain and sadness, but i pulled back my light and tuen the tables around! Check mate!
Thank you Danish, that is brilliant!🙏🙂❤️Very insightful.
If you don't talk to them and don't argue....this is the way to defeat them....
Great advice!
He starts hitting me, when he doesn't know what to reply. So itsbettee that i remain silent
Please don't argue with them.seperate and be independent
Wow! What a post! So intricate!
Ok bro thanks for sharing!
Thank you❤
Thank-you so much about this topic , it has been so helpful.
This information is Gold
i have a question please reply, are Narcissists possessed with Demon, or evil spirits, because they don't behave like a normal human beings & i have noticed that they have some special days in a week when they act very cruel, i think some enemies send evil spirit through magic to destroy them by every way of life therefore perhaps they don't have control on their life, what do you say about it?
Look up Jezebel and leviathan spirit mixed with pride
Hai Danish, please make a video about how to handle the flying monkies of narcisist... And how to prove their intentions in court case
Listen to what they say and all ways respond in their favour with out agreeing if need be there are word tricks to get around that one . just make sure they think there the only winner in any conversation and detach yourself emotionally with a little practice you’ll soon become an expert with a good laugh 😂 and a smile 😊when there not looking of course
A narcissist sibling of mine uses the shared property like he thinks it is his own, putting his stuff allover the place. How should I handle it?
Chuck it out of the window.
@@2gooddrifters 🙃Haha.. thanks! I can imagine his face! 👿These are things in the shared garden. You can understand how difficult is to do this without harming myself!!
Garbage Day.
Interesting Game.
The only winning move, is not to play.
How about a nice game of Chess?
When you leave and disappear for good after you let him know he is a true disapointment, he lost. He will pretend he care none. But that is just a façade. He is full of crap upon crap upon crap upon crap. He is found out and soon everyone starts catching up to his games. Women figure him out so quickly. In the end, he dies alone with his money. In the afterlife, he stands in front of God to receive His justoce versus a long line of men and especially women he wronged. Women he stol from other men, just because he could, women he f*** and threw on the side because she has become old game and used for him to keep. Casanova i call him. Then at the end, he dares to think he deserves a good woman. He doesn't and will not escape Justice here and there. God's Willing, i will stand in front of God with all the other women he wronged behind me demanding justice against him. I will stand up there for every woman he wronged and left crying bitter tears for years, wronged destroyed ruined afraid to be with another man, for fear of being used and lied to.
What about the ones that love to troll everybody's comments
trying to bait ppl into arguments all because they don't agree with something or can't stand the fact that you have a difference of opinion??
i wud really like 2 hav sum videos dat give real life examples, as it seems a bit hard 2 do this tbh, but still, like this video a lot!
These people are like these AI Robot's, there is no soul .
I daily defeat my narcissistic boss because I understand him very well now. Fight factually having self-control and trust yourself. He's just a piece of shit.
Let them have it Darnesh.
what if it's your mom and you still have to deal with her?
Apart from being devils in human shape, they are such a Waste of Space!!
He definitely likes to win he will shout over me humiliate me and then when I feel I'm starting to make sense he gets quiet and no longer wants to shout and he gets louder if he has a audience. So there is no winning with my narcissist he lacks any kind of listening or communication skills. I think he's actually trying to convince himself that I am the covert narcissist he's getting technical, now that I'm kind of figuring him out and trying to reverse the situation. He sees himself as a victim and I think he is convinced he was a good husband.
So the person I live with right before I leave for my specialist doctors appointment tells me "if you believed in God you would not go, even if it's appendicitis you would let it burst and if you died it is God's will!" I went anyway....and told her boyfriend God gave you common sense...if you have pain your common sense tells you to let a doctor fix it so you can live a productive life again....ugh...making me feel bad when I'm down and sick...
I also need to say that this seems just as exhausting as the narcissist's games. I become the manipulator if I do what you suggested, right?
He didn't seem to be suggesting much of that sort. It mainly sounded like seeing boundaries, maintaining integrity, assuming that the narcissist will be strategic in manipulating you, etc. I didn't hear anything he said that sounded so exhausting or manipulative.
Either you treat them as they treat you or go no contact..Narcs pride themselves on being right even when they're wrong...
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There so fake! Every thing is a lie
A lie that changes every day😢
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Its like to be wright in menal institution.
I'm not trained.😊
But mental blackmail is ok✅️
Author Dan Lawton
4.0 out of 5 stars Good reference material
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If you’re able to do so, you just cut off interaction with them, you don’t owe these losers any acknowledgment.
I could shut my ex down by using logic. He said he couldn't argue with logic.
This video seems so wrong. You’re not “winning” if you have to stoop to their manipulative ways to “beat” them. Identify their unsafe behaviors then establish what you will do to respond in a way to keep your safety in tact. do not try to manipulate a response from them or tear them down to get it. They are probably also a survivor of abuse. These are extreme ways they learned to cope in their world. I’ve liked a lot of your videos about healing but this one I find very upsetting and dangerous. Leading toward you assuming the role of a narcissist.