My FIRST PROBLEM with the C63 AMG
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- The car took a visit to the specialists at MB Tech in Warrington. They had the car for a total of 3 days and managed to sort a couple of things out.. however it came with a rather pricey bill!
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The cost is as can be expected for a C63 - labour costs soon mount up on niggles here and there. It's just a part of ownership for a special car like that. I had my C63 for just under 3 years and then changed to the ML63 which I have now - absolutely great cars and worth every penny
I like the camera over the exhaust👍
I know the guys at MB Tech and they certainly know where they’re on about. Your in safe hands there.
Classic, and so it begins, good luck 👍🏁
I used to take my C250d to MB Tech and they were great with it and treated me with the same care even though it was pretty bland compared to the AMG cars they had parked outside. Nothing but praise for them.
The noise is from a phenomenon called feathering. It’s when the tread blocks are worn at different levels around the circumference on the edge of the tyre.You can often feel it if you run your hand around the tread. Seen many a bearing replaced without checking.
Interesting! What’s the cause?
@@CarThought driving/braking too hard or faulty shocks can cause tire feathering
Good video and a good result for you, I had a 2016 C63 on PCP for 4 yrs and OK it had 3 yrs Warranty but even wear and tear items cost. I racked up 64k miles and if I hadn't of sold it when I did new pads and discs all round would have been £1k. Don't forget your costs also included 'peace of mind' so yes good result. After the C63 moved into a new M4 Comp, real drivers car but awful ride experience on motorways so after 10 mnths its now gone. Really fancy a C63 507 but they are like gold dust.
Yeah 507’s are getting really expensive now. I’m used to modding and servicing everything myself but My 63 is the first car I haven’t to preserve the FSH!
I loved the M4 I tried, and really like the look of them but honestly was laughing too much to pay any attention to what it was like on the motorway.
One of the reasons I can afford my AMG is because I learned to do my own work.
Or pay cash, I lose the VAT with my mechanic. Avoid main stealers, I always used to go to them but they are no better than an old school professional mechanic, especially these cars they are traditional engine cars they are a doddle for a mechanic.
yeah things like coil packs spark plugs even rocker cover replacement brakes are quite straight forward on w204 c63 no turbos or intercoolers to get in the way.
How hard is it to work on for a complete noob?
@@jmhellison depends on the type of work. Oil change is easy. Rebuilding your transmission? Forget about it
When you come up to the one year mark how will the total spend compare to your 2.0L MX-5.
Great video!
£900 to change the tyres and spark plugs 🙈
How did he get super sports for that cheap though? In NZ they’re about 6-800 a corner
Really enjoying the new C63 vids! Though to be completely honest, since I was first subscribed because of your MX5, I'm secretly pleased youre paying the price for upgrading to the C63!! Havent really had to pay anything unexpected for my NC MX5, though maybe when i take it to MX5 works next week to get it serviced I may get surprised!
Just my 2 cents - in your first vid with the C63 you said your car dealer put 4 brand new pilot sport 4s on the car, and you've already had a problem needing to get the front two replaced? Are you going to take it up with the dealer you bought the car from? I'd be so annoyed if they messed up the tyres like that...
Also what made you choose to get the supersports? Was it a case of the dealer not having the 4s available? I always thought it was best to keep the same tyres all around... Would make sense if the rears were a few burnouts from needing replacing anyway, but you're gonna have those uneven tyres for at least a couple years it seems
Thanks very much! Glad you’re enjoying the new content. I did say that, and I think I was told a porky pie by the salesman, which to be honest I didn’t check the dates on the tyres. Just one of those things 😂
Technically the tyre wasn’t defective and so I don’t think the dealer would replace it. I don’t think 99% of people would have noticed the noise! And, in the grand scheme of things it isn’t going to break the bank. 🤷♂️
Yeah I’ve met a couple of people that like to have all 4 tyres the same. Personally I’ve yet to find evidence to say why it’s a good thing to do? Even though I’m usually guilty of it myself! I know a few C63 owners like to have grippy front tyres and looser rear tyres to make the car even more fun, but it comes down to personal preference. The PSS were in stock and the PS4S’s were a 2 day wait. Rears on a W204 C63 are said to last between 4K and 6K miles depending on the type of driving. So I’m probably looking at 2x new rears every year.. 🤣🤷♂️ 600NM of torque is fun though 😬
Just traded in my 2007 Mk3 roadster MX5. 14 years old, never had a fault, never had a bill other than routine servicing, tyres etc. Replaced that car last week with a new 2.0L Sports Tech MX5 convertible in Soul Red - and it handles like you're wearing it, and it's drop-dead gorgeous. Just sayin'. ;-)
engine mounts make a huge difference keep an eye on that soon as cold start vibrations
Believe me, these are supercar expensive to run, but its worth it i assure you, happy driving.
Not quite super car expensive to run...
Just bought one. Will take it to Mercedes or a Specialist immediately as I want it brought up to top condition. Any suggestions on what I should get Mercedes to double check and possibly upgrade whilst it is in there?
Cheers
Ade
Hi Ade, I think it depends on your car. You’ll have to inspect it, see if there’s anything that needs doing. E.g. wheel scuffs, scratches, any niggling noises that are annoying you? And then a good service. Ultimately I think just enjoy the car and you’ll find out what you want to change and what to keep as is! 👌🤟
@@CarThought Getting a late 507 with 56k miles.
I will take it to Mercedes for a full check up to be safe.
Hi everyone.
Great video.
Purchased my C63 August 2020. After a lot of searching found a P31 sedan with 68000 miles, fsh.
Over the last year only essential maintenance was a service oil, filter pollen filter revive the K & N air filters.
Oil cooler leak so replaced the cooler and pipes.
Pulley on the top lhs broke so replaced all pulleys and belt.
Changed the rims and have 245/35 in front and 275/30 on rear.
MOT 2 weeks ago advised to change front brake pads so did.... 487 bhp without brakes? Why would you not.
These beauties are a dying breed.. Take care of yours as I will mine.
Congratulations mate! Thanks for the insight into your ownership! Mine isn’t driven that much so far, so haven’t had to do that much maintenance on it yet! Do you plan on doing anything other than maintenance to the car?
@@CarThought
No problem.
It has miltek secondary decat already so nothing planned to be honest. Its just a lovely place to be inside with dry roads and a smile on my face......
Hey pal I’m the market for one how’s yours holding up
I take all my cars to MB tech , great garage that is 👌🏻
As an owner of a 2014 C63. Think that's pretty cheap. Considering I'm in the US. Awesome lookin one you have there 🤘🤘
tbh so far the car really isn’t that bad to run cost wise! I think people want it to be worse than it is 🤷♂️
@@CarThought you are correct. They aren't that bad cost wise IMO
I haven’t had a car with no dip stick on the power steering cap, I think it’s just a general thing that car companies do
Mine caught fire post a oil leak between the gbox and engine. Had the part ready to be fitted on the Monday (when merc called me and said they couldn't do it cos covid) , I filled it up on the Friday night I filled up with the good stuff Friday night and parked up and the car was running its fans, nothing abnormal, slight smell of oil. It's happened before and hencenbuying the part but it was too late and it went up in smoke ..gutted.. I'm going to get a Toyota Yaris grbcircuit next. The w204 is well known for having oil leaks from head rocker covers and the pipes to the gbox. I loved that car, It was so technologically advanced for a 10 year old car and was serviced on the dial. They've gone up now as a second hand car. I also had a problem with the fans going on permanently , a well known issue sorted for 300 at Merc bath. Other than that it was just standard servicing and tires. I miss it but couldn't believe the amount of little niggles they seem to have..
Interesting to read your experience! Mine is a weekend car, so it spends most of its time on a trickle charger in the garage and I’m a bit overkill with checks. I do an oil check every time before a drive. Interesting to read the position of your leak, the manifold leaks are well documented but first I’ve heard of between the engine and gearbox mating. The prices seem to be really strong at the moment, probably because of the engine and the new model being a 4 cylinder!
I have the cls63 and latest problem was a front air suspension strut Had to be recovered as the wheel was inside the wing and wheel couldn't turn without bending wing My garage I always use did it and cost 1200 quid Strut cost 800 and boy I'm so glad I don't use merc dealer. That's the only major thing I've had but there's been a few little things but they all seem to be costly. But hey great car and always have the window down. That engine just dominates everything
An that’s interesting, £800 for just the strut?
i ahve a 2013 version, which hasnt really been used greatly.. Last service they said the rear subframe was rusty and said it common fault. They went on to say get it wax oiled? Anyone any experience of this ? The net seems to suggest it rusts from the inside out though ?
I come from the MX-5 world where everything is made of tin. So I’m used to having holes in a car! Interesting to see pictures of what they class as rusty. Most cars 10 years old will have surface rust (depending on climate) but it’s usually non structural and no cause for alarm. Wax oil treatment is common on JDM stuff and will help slow down any more rust, although it’s not usually a cure for existing rust. Was it front or rear subframe?
Its costing me next week £500 for a new electric motor on the column on my e350,so no its about right for a independent specialist id say,mercs aint cheap
If you take the new tyres into account it's sounds like a fair price.
I bought a 2012 Mercedes-Benz cls 63 amg one owner with 62321 miles,all service done at Mercedes-Benz and I had Mercedes-Benz look it over before I finalized the purchase and they gave me a 👍 the only thing I ran into was a light 💡 came on saying it needed a quart of oil? I guess it’s normal with the age of the car and mileage but I think that staying on top of the maintenance and I will be fine but I love the car what a beast
Yeah M156 does use a little oil, like you said if you stay on top of it, it should be good. If it keeps happening though, it may be worth to diagnose it.
I feel your pain
I only buy MPS4/MPS4's from COSTCO here in the UK. Try that next time!
Yeah that’s a good idea. Tbh at the start of the fault diagnosis process nobody was sure what was causing the vibration. Most of the cost was labour.
Cheap great Mechanics we from Australia we know People we’re only getting 6000 kms out of a set of tires $5000 every 6000 kms they Love the car still
Well worth it.
Sadly one of the reasons I let my C63 go....ridiculously expensive bills but yes granted it comes with the territory of owning and running a car like this. As said though, a bill for almost a grand for two tyres and new spark plugs is expensive....dont get me wrong i do miss the engine and the fantastic growl that it makes but other than that I have to say my BMW 430d X Drive is a better car 99% of the time.....
Yeah, I wouldn’t dare run it as a daily. Hats off to those who do.. but my Golf is what I’m in 99% of the time. The 63 is a treat that comes out on some weekends.. which personally makes the cost much more justifiable as it’s a toy for me. Still… so far… it’s cheaper than running a 2005 MX-5 that it replaced (can you believe it! 🤣)
Left me in suspense with that power steering fluid - was it leaking???
Doesn’t seem to be. Previous owner let it run low but hasn’t gone down since the top up.. unusual as it’s a closed loop.
Interesting! Very interesting! Wear items. More expensive wear items.
Not sure I'd call that a bargain. What condition were the plugs in? No point charging them if they're in good nick. How worn were the front tyres? Was replacing the undamaged one really necessary? (Not if the same tread pattern and light wear only). Seems a lot to me
I agree with all of your comments for a car used daily like my golf.. but personally not for a car of the value of the C63. A lot of its value is in the condition and recorded history of the vehicle, and personally cost is irrelevant when it comes to maintaining it correctly. As you can see from my golf videos, I don’t treat all my cars with the same attitude towards maintenance and usually do all of it myself.
@@CarThought I completely agree where things actually require replacement. Of course I don't know when the plus were last changed or what condition the other tyre was in. If they're 'leggy' then absolutely beneficial to replace, but if they've hardly done any miles/are recent and in good condition then to me it seems unnecessary. And unnecessary maintenance outlay isn't going to help a service deal history or residual value.
It's an AMG specialist shop, you are gonna pay the premium. He could go to a good indy shop and probably would have saved half the bill.
You seem like a nice chap.
Geometry or in the states we call it Alignment.👍
We call it Alignment here in the UK, too. Perhaps only the posh people call it Geometry??
The term ‘Alignment’ or ‘tracking’ is used excessively everywhere. And typically only refers to adjustment of toe in/out. I tend to specify geometry as this refers to caster, camber and thrust angle (if the car has capability for it). Most garages aren’t competent to perform a full geometry adjustment in the UK (even if they have the correct equipment for it). So I tend to specify 🤟.
That's what you get haha should have stuck with the MX-5 lol
I just got price for new spark plugs from Mercedes dealership in Alabama, ~ $600
Is that good or bad for your area?
can't blame the car for bad tires, alignment issues and a possibly unnecessary spark plug change.
You would have done the sparkplugs yourself with the mx-5, and the tires would have been cheaper. I'd say it would have costed you 1/3 of the price when comparing it to the Merc. I guess that's the price you pay for all the comfort, thunderous soundtrack, and monstrous power at your disposal.
I agree! I could have done the C63 plugs myself too, but a full service history C63 is a lot more valuable than a part service history one!
@@CarThought That's true. I've been conducting my own services for so long, I had forgotten that fact.
@@vlenhoff For all the work I do myself, I take photos and keep copies of the receipt. So when I may sell my c63, I have proof of purchase and install.
@@editingiswhatido Ha, I do take pictures of my work as well. Thanks for the tip! My car is a tiny MX-5 anyway, so I doubt I let it go, but it is always good to keep track of our work.
@@CarThought But for us it's not interesting .
Plugs and 2 tyres £900 😧🙈…….. that can’t be described as any other than outrageous
But they’re very shiny tyres .. 😬
You didn't mention spark plugs quite enough for me
Car isn’t going anywhere fast without some decent ones! 🤷♂️
Genuinely feel like these cars just should not be owned by anyone unless you are competent enough to do EVERYTHING including a full engine rebuild, yourself, or you have a huge wallet and an understanding that high performance cars will have issues like any other. This guys pretty chill about it, but the amount of moaning youtubers and owners I hear is insulting to the car. You are not worthy, piss off and get a kia
I guess it was introduced as a baby super car killer at a price bracket that (today at least) doesn’t seem too bad. For me it’s a slice of automotive history, so rare to get big capacity V8’s in EU saloons! But agree, you have to give it some slack for the performance on offer 😁
Geometry? You need an Oxford or Cambridge degree in mathematics to do an alignment over there?
The term ‘Alignment’ or ‘tracking’ is used excessively everywhere. And typically only refers to adjustment of toe in/out. I tend to specify geometry as this refers to caster, camber and thrust angle (if the car has capability for it). Most garages aren’t competent to perform a full geometry adjustment in the UK (even if they have the correct equipment for it). So I tend to specify 🤟.
Also.. I learnt about Trigonometry year 9 (age 13/14) here in the UK! I think Oxbridge mathematics degrees are far superior 😂
Scandalous labour charge. I could have done it for £30 per hour, job done properly.
Be honest do you miss your mx5?
It’s like asking an iPhone 12 owner: Do you miss your iPhone 3G?
My damn steering lock module failed. Common issue on these cars. Going to replace it with an emulator now
Yeah heard that one a few times! Is it immovable when it happens?
@@CarThought yup and mine gave no warning. Luckily it broke in my garage but I have very little space and I need to strip the steering column out as mine is in the locked position. Anyhow will attempt that next month. In the meantime I'm looking at the weistec stage 3 sc kit 👀
Ohh sounds spicy! MSL fitting? Yeah, moving into October.. isn’t the ideal time for a 63 anyway!
@@CarThought well im out in South Africa 🇿🇦 we always have awesome weather 😎
Ah very jealous!
Welcome to the real world of Mercedes ownership! Probably the first of many big bills to come, the car looks and sounds great, but owning this sort of car will almost always result in sky-high running costs. Everything is expensive, including the fuel it drinks.
Yeah, but it sounds cool 😎
except if you buy a Lexus ISF you get NO bills outside of normal services - my V8 5litre 420 hp car gets ragged at every opportunity and has had nothing go wrong since it was made in 2011......
£90 for a wheel alignment Jesus boyo here in Milton Keynes it’s £30 at kwic fit
Guarantee that a £30 alignment is only a 2 wheel alignment and they will have only adjusted toe in/out. Personally think 2 wheel alignments are a con as it’s impossible to set a car up right only adjust 2 out of 4 wheels!
My old MX-5 geometry was over £100 as they corner weight and do camber/caster on all 4 wheels. Proper geometry set up isn’t cheap!
@Car Thought they do all four and the camber or toe in n out as you call it
However it’s called camber if you don’t want to sound silly or be charged £90 great car boyo
Camber is not the same as toe in / toe out. They are 2 different adjustments. Appreciate your support of the channel, not knocking you for commenting. At least you feel like you got a good deal on your car 😃
@Car Thought sorry toe in n out is the alignment
Ours does the four wheels and checks adjust the camber £30
It’s been a long day jurking off to UA-cam
I think it’s just the inherent cost of buying a 8/9 year old used car with nearly 60k miles on it and getting it to how you want it. Obviously slightly higher because it’s a C63. I tend to budget for these additional costs in the first year.
Cheaper than buying it new!
I agree. I don’t like financing, so its always used for me! Although 2014 was the last year they made the 6.2, so the newest ones of these are still 7 years old.. crazy!
You gotta learn some shit, save you a fortune. I think you could have worked most of that out yourself.
Get the books and wrench out my man.
I had a clk 55 amg all lined up low ks and the guy reneged on the deal in Australia very hard to get and now going up.
I may be now looking at 2013 c63 with performance package but I would not go near these cars without being able to do my own work. They are $$$$$$ good info mate enjoy.
Hello, as you can see from my channel I usually do all my own servicing and repairs on all my cars 👍
Definitely didn’t learn it from any books though haha.
Welcome to the world of Mercedes Benz!
It’s a fun place that smells of bank notes and the clouds are made from tyre smoke.
Grrr not happy Ur not Mazda dude anymore
I would maybe have had the wheels aligned first and then seen how noise was, but that's just me been Yorkshire and tight
Minor
So much better than the Mazda!
Lmao well it cost more duhhhh
What’s the biggest unexpected bill that you’ve had for your car? 💰
I found my Mr2 needed a new clutch on the drive home in it! Very annoyed with myself for not noticing on test drive but you cant really drive it too hard with the owner sat next to you. Anyway, that's buying privately for you, no comeback and I wasn't too upset with the £400 bill for a new one fitted.
Engine 😂😒
Focus st mk3 steering rack. Clio 200 rs gearbox x2
Head bolts and worn cams 11k bill
Marvin Bradley watch out for intake manifold! 10k bill for me
I like this car can I have it
In exchange for money, of course! 😂