C63 AMG - The true cost of ownership..
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
- So here is the video that everyone has been asking for.. How much does it cost to run a W204 Mercedes C63 AMG as a weekend toy? Well.. for me.. it worked out at around 1.62 per mile in 2021. This cost would probably decrease with the more miles that you did, as the servicing would be offset the further that you drove the car, I don't think the fuel would have that much of an effect. Is it what you expected?
0:13 Intro
0:53 Servicing and maintenance
07:41 Insurance
09:01 Tax
09:52 Tax and insurance totals
10:20 Fuel
11:39 Total costs
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Had mine a few weeks now and put about 1400 miles on it, 300-350 miles per tank and if I had kids I would sell them to fuel it, can't stop driving it. Love it.
Thats such a demonic and weird thing to say
@@jesusiskingofkings4428 the king of demonic things
😂😂it’s just a joke guys
any flaws yet?
Cam adjusters getting a bit noisy
Can I afford it?!
Looks at $4.26 in savings account
Yea, probably...
I got $100. With my $100 and your $4 we can get one. By we I mean me
I’ve got $25 I’d like to join this club
Around $200 (160 GBP) labor rate in California, engine over $60K ($48K GBP)! You got some good deals!
The sound of that engine is amazing
Great video. Tells me that the cost of running a vehicle in the UK is significantly higher than in North America. I have had my C 63 for seven years and my cost per month (not including purchase price) has been significantly lower than yours and that includes insurance and gasoline. You are very brave as is anyone in the UK to own a C 63.
Haha I could have told you that 😂 Having done a 2 week road trip in NA, I can safely say that we are very jealous of your fuel prices, car prices, roads, insurance system and engine capacities 👍
Probably because of all the maintenance he did, he won't be doing that every year. If anything parts and labour for a MB are more expensive in the US than in the UK. It's the tax and fuel that gets you.
Wait until you see the cost of owning that car in the Republic of Ireland (road tax alone is €2,400/year 😢)
I’ve owned a c63 wagon for 3 years loved every minute of it . I’m lucky I don’t really worry about running costs . But if you are don’t buy one
This video is brilliant! I've been looking for a proper breakdown as I've been wanting a w204 c63 for a while now.
It’s pretty much the most affordable one right now
really good video lots of info you should do more :P
Hope you had a good Christmas and New year. Will we see some content in the near future. I like your presenting and humour. Hope your ok.
Good content. And new subscriber here mate ! Keep up the good work 💯
Thanks appreciate the support 🤟
very detailed so cool how you implemented the shots of the car in the video.
Great great video very detailed
Hope you're all good Dom, gone awfully quiet!
Great insight and just goes to show its not just about owning a decent car it's about making it as good as it can be and taking care of it. I followed you from MX5 days and have enjoyed your journey . What's next for you or have a missed something?
Hello mate, yes it’s quite a labour of love to get it right! I think cars like this you’re more of a custodian than an owner.
I made a small video but you may have missed it! I’m buying a specific race car 🤟 update video will come once I know more 👍
Amazing video I would love a similar video for the w205 I am looking at one of those
Beautiful sounding car 😍
I hv a C63s , I know it’s a luxury and it deserves to be treated well and looking after it is 100% the correct thing to do. It is costly but it gives me the best smiles per gallon . Incidentally I hv average 38.6 miles per gallon on a 360 mile journey but in general I’m getting between 22-28mpg. I drive it carefully but I do throttle it as well when safe to do so. I think it’s brilliant, my company car is a ID3 so very efficient miles but zero smiles .
This sounds like the perfect way to own/use one in these modern times 👌
what year?
@@i.s.3458 2019 wagon
I go to Costco for Premium fuel in my Mercedes & i use a superb Independent Mercedes Specialists Mastertech M43 , Great video
hey im a 63 owner i have 2010 estate love my car to bits it costs me a fortune a month like your saying...i use it on weekends if im not on call but it makes me smile every time im driving it ..
ive been mercedes warrington full service 620 ....then engine management light came on back to mercedes it went its the temperature sensor 🤷♂️ now goes back 22nd this month 😊 i have my missis saying i should sell it but i cant im 42 wanted one since i first seen them
brilliant video i just need to make sure my missis doesn't see it 🤣🤣
It’s a brilliant weekend car. Around here I love the Mercedes Stockport showroom. One Saturday before I bought my car, I just went in, grabbed a coffee and sat in cars for about an hour 😂 Maybach, S65, AMG GTS etc.
I’ve owned mine almost 2 years, the mrs and wallet hate it but I just can’t part with it, I’d be too gutted to get rid
Astonishingly low insurance cost. Great vid. Sub’d
Great video, can I ask why you sold it? Or is this just part of the channel?
Your car sounds too good it is insane
They don’t only run on 99 Ron. Every car sold HAS to be able to run on 95 Ron. You’ll have ignition timing pulled top end on 95 but it can run on it.
I hope everything is going well. We have not hear from you in a while.
Currently looking for one of these 2012-2015 preferably in a 4 door
I bought one that is my passion my love and hobby. If I would not buy that car I would loose that money for something else.
We need to enjoy time we have coz life is too short !
Had mine 3.5 weeks and get 200miles to a tank, which costs me £110 running 99octane.
Not that I care about the fuel costs.
Averaging between 16-20mpg mixed driving
I’m 33 and insurance is £400 plus the £630 tax
You're 33 and insurance is 400 plus tax? Im 22 and i pay 160£ for full insurance!
@@blou4444 400 for the entire year
@@blou4444how on earth hahaha! I’m also 22 and I’m getting quoted £1.6k
I'm surprised at your mpg. Much better than I would have expected.
I bought a v10 audi, had it for 5 months and I've spent like 8 grand on maintenance :D should've gotten a merc
Brilliant video thanks that’s give me a great insight to it 👌🏼
I recently sold my m2 And bought a 700bhp supercharged w204 coupe I don’t drive it much but I’m now poor 😂 now I know why
How would compare the drive to m2
@@shoaiblodhi4439 I much prefer driving the m2. It’s more nimble the dct gear box is amazing, and I would say a much more usable amount of power and it was stage 2. But when I opened the c63 up down a mile long runway it was something else and the sound is mental. But everyday I much prefer the m2.
£70 pounds an hour's!!!! You won't get that
type of cheap labour charge any more.
Car is awesome.
Out of all the Mercedes I've driven while working for Mercedes the original C63 is the one car that I will never forget.But just remember a heavy right foot in the wet means the car will bite back.
Worth every penny and worth all the labor, this is the sickest car
Finances aside, it sounds mint
How are you doing. Any plans to return, I really hope you do. How's the Golf running. Always enjoyed your video's..
The gas money you paying you can finance a 991 gt3 for real....I’m paying $100 on gas every day,work 6 days a week lol but man the exhaust note was insane,no regrets.
$100 everyday? Where the hell do u live
Thats cool you can pay for mileage on your car insurance
Other than the A/B services each year in 2.5 years all I've had to have done to the car is an ABS sensor replacement. Oh and replaced all 4 tyres with PS4S.
Interesting. What sort of mileage do you do?
@@CarThought 3-5k a year.
@@Daniel-on7hg that’s pretty good then! What sort of mileage is your car on?
@@CarThought just gone past 50k
Fuel consumption on this car is not bad overall, considering that my Volvo V70R 2004 model with 300HP does 5.5/6.5km to the liter
Well something’s really wrong with your Volvo. My s60r with a tune gives at least 8 km/l, almost 11 on the highway.
@@Eidrian111 Depends how you drive it and where you drive it, living in italy in traffic you have no highways, only small roads packed with traffic. I get upto 10km per liter on the highway
I had volvo xc70 2.4t and consumption was 17/18 mpg my c63 has the same but gives me big smile on my face every time i jump in which is priceless 😉
Oud kuga 2.5t tuned does 8,5km per litre, but did only 9 when not tuned. We only put e5 in her and give her a go when she is warm but normally for house-work kms its 120kph 50km one way and even then not better than 8,5kmpl
The VED cost would be the killer for me even if I could afford to buy a C63. I know somebody who has one and his insurance premium is half the cost of the VED. It is the other way round on my 2009 C200 Sport CDI. It has the AMG Sport pack with a Sprinter van engine (OM646 2.1 diesel). VED is £220 a year. My C200 is a weekend toy so I can restrict my mileage to keep the insurance costs down.
2400 to tax it for the year in Ireland 🤢
I think this works out between £1.62 and £1.82 per mile! Is that a lot?
Thats a lot lol
I pay around $300 a week for gas…… i gotta stop drving
I've had mine down to 9mpg, but up to 24.7. Average is 14.6mpg over 6k miles.
I generally average 60 or 70 smiles per gallon.
Turning traction control off is expensive in tyres. Only for a birthday treat !?.
Insurance is £330 ( Cos I is old.)
Tax is a killer.
B service at 60k.... £1100 !!
(But I got 'everything' done.)
Owned it 3yr so far.
My forever car.
If a rich auntie leaves me
£30k or £40k, I 'd move on, otherwise it stays..
I've had 29 cars in my 43 years on the road. Cheapest £100, most expensive is current c63.
I've loved every one of them for what they offered.
This car is faster than the supercars that I had on my bedroom wall growing up.!!!
In my dreams it has four wheel drive and a supercharger.
And an lsd.
And a wide body kit.
I wanna get a new E class Sedan and I got 30k down and my credit is good and I’m saving up more. If I buy factory ordered New, wouldn’t the warranty be covered for 4 years and services be complimentary for the first 2 years? And if it’s new I prob won’t have much maintenance or repairs and I would get any off market items. But I would pay for the labor for anything after warranty. So I’m not sure if I should get it. It’s not a great investment but I really want one
Got 30K saved up, income is around 3.5K - 4K / month at the moment.
Should I save for a house?
Or buy a Cls63 amg and live with parents or pay rent to other people?
Im not surprised. It is expensive. But this car is awesome. I rather work my a** off for this than a Tesla or the new "C63" (which is a joke) i say in 5 years i will get my own C63 AMG W204. And i really want in white just like yours. But with 4 doors. Thanks for the video.
I BELIEVE YOU CAN!
@@Faithsxx Thank you.
Is that the road just outside fort William ?
It looks very familiar .
1 year, 3,500 miles is just simply not enough to get an accurate sample of the cost to own a hipo German car. You could just as well have a $5,000 repair as you could spend nothing but simple maintenance. It’s a crapshoot. Really need to average over 3-5 years and 30k-50k miles for true cost to own.
I somewhat agree. My experience seems to be quite a typical one though. Going through my vehicles 9 years of service history, I would say my costs are on par with all of the other years. If you have information/data on a W204 C63 that you can share here, I am sure people would love to read it 😊
Did you make a profit selling the car?
You need to account for the 6 months it was off the road. This was costing a fortune a month. Unless you already have. It’s more like £1000 a month.
1000 a month ???? How I’m looking at getting this car but wow that’s so much
Can someone please tel me about servicing do I get done after a year or 5k miles if I haven’t done 5k miles in a year do I still need to get the service done thanks
Ive had a w204 c63 for 9 years and its cost me virtually nothing. 170,000 kms now
So what should I expect reliability and maintenance wise for a 2012 c63 with about 80k miles
Steep … 😀
for me driving it 3 times a week it cost about the same as my Honda...............except the tax, insurance and the big service.
The W204 C63 is a great GT car, an M3 would leave it in chassis terms, but that 6.2 V8 is immense, and is a better engine, than anything the 3 & 4 series BMW M can muster.
Running costs are very high, I get between 11 to 14mpg round town.
On a Run its about 27mpg, with a very light foot, the most ive got to a full tank, is 260miles. And the least was 170miles, which is £105 a tank, and Super only!
I drive everywhere in Comfort, SP+ just makes you drive fast, and its always straining at the lead to go, which is bad, because it's to fast for UK roads.
Performance is strong, Ive reeled in a 600cc bike from the traffic lights, I didnt gain on him until past 100mph, but he was only about 3 car lengths in front from the lights.
More than fast enough for anyone, and the noise never gets boring.😎
It’s the noise ……just so inconsiderate……😈😈😈.
The ideal toy to drive your neighbours mad
@@monk3yboy69 Go tell Mercedes you are unhappy about their V8 noise, I'm sure they will listen to you🤦♂️
@EugVR6 I see someone does not understand irony…..
😀😀😀
@@monk3yboy69 Sorry...I missed that! All good here 👍🏼
Dom where have you gone?
Wow... I am currently looking to buy one of these and you might just have turned me away 😂 great information though
I think the costs will be similar for any car of this age/type! 63, RS4, M3.. Would be interesting to see the same video on those other cars!
@@CarThought seems you had constant repairs etc. What mileage was the car when you bought it ?
@@jakerigby5935 From memory 58,900 miles. Sold at around 63,500. I wouldn’t say constant, but cars like this have to be right! You can’t drive a 460bhp car and have a dodgy wheel bearing IMO. All the other stuff was just routine maintenance 👍
@@CarThought B service is expensive as far as routine maintenance goes. No doubt the previous owner sold it precisely because that service was coming up.
Now the next owner of the car will spend a lot less on maintenance than you did!
Me spending a smidge over $12,000 on my car in 2 weeks 🥴
Where is this fella? He stopped making UA-cam videos
Just parted with mine after 12months,
Loved it and done it but boy do they drain your cash,
Fantastic car but the novelty wore off ,gonna miss it but needs must etc.
How much would you need to earn a week to own one?
@@davebro9107 if you need to ask - then you can't afford it. That was said in the vid..
@@davebro9107 depends on your other expenses. If you are buying one cash you will need at least £300/pm for servicing, maintenance, tax and repairs. Fuel will depend on your mileage but budget for £100 per 220 miles so you can do the math. I personally would not buy one if you earn less than £3k per month after all taxes and deductions.
@@CosmicSeeker69 I was after a monthly cost dude bought one in the end love it
Miss mx5 vids
Wow Europe is dirty cheap, here in US you would get charged $500 just out of nothing
How much was it for the miata for comparison ?
I’m sorry I honestly can’t remember! It won’t have been as much. I did make a video here if you want to watch it: ua-cam.com/video/kZAgRnIe5ps/v-deo.html
We miss you ! Any plans to return. Hope your ok.
Thanks buddy, having a bit of a break as you can see, which is the first time I’ve not posted in a few years.. but I will be back. Appreciate the support 💪
These prices are insane. £360 for bumper respray? Like wtf is this?
Im thinking about to own c63 to enjoy it sometimes but mainly to for invest in future, because it gains value with time. Do you think it is a good idea?
It depends if the appreciation in value offsets the cost of ownership..
Say the car increases at a rate of £500 per year.. but it costs you £1000 a year to keep, then no, it’s not a good idea.
The problem with your question is, nobody knows what will happen to speciality cars like this in terms of market value in the future!
@@CarThought Thanks for response, the other £500 is for enjoyment, this car is unique. :P
Worst use of capital ever is to buy a money pit
I mean, for something that's treading the line between regular car and supercar it's not all that bad!
Do you reckon it's replacement will be as new? From the silhouette I reckon it could be an A5/S5... quite a portly race car in stock form I would've thought!
I agree, and any car of this speed/calibre/vintage will likely have similar costs.
I wouldn’t have thought so, I’ve not purchased it yet, that video on my home page is quite misleading (and was for the C63 - I will have to take it down!)
I agree, but most things can be made quite light, I did think about stripping the 63 and getting it to around 1.5T.. but that would have been sacrilege 😂
Is he a mechanic or he is just doing this fixing on his own sounds like a lot of work definitely gives you a new skill
With a posh accent like his, definitely not a mechanic 😀😀
70 pounds per hour for labor? How is that possible? That’s only $86 (US dollars). VW labor rate is a lot cheaper than Mercedes, but in the Seattle area, VW labor is $193/hour.
That’s very interesting, it could be because the USA is a much wealthier country than the UK. Just look at the difference between the average salaries. The national average salary is only £34,900 ($43,075) before tax. The UK average house price is £302,000 ($372,852).
@@CarThought That's a very insightful observation! I'd always thought of the UK as being more expensive, but I never actually looked at useful measures (salary, home price) to normalize the two. So I did a little experiment...
Experiment results: turns out there's about a 3x multiplier (home prices, household income) b/n the UK and the USA (details below). I called a Mercedes dealer in Seattle and they quoted me $285/hour labor rate. Dividing by 3 (to normalize for UK vs USA) yields £95/hr labor rate. So a bit above your £70/hr labor rate estimate, but not a huge difference.
More details: in Washington state, salaries and home prices vary widely (farmers in eastern WA, vs tech industry in the Seattle area), so if we just look at the Seattle area, the median home price is $850,000 (source: www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/King-County_WA/overview). And the median household income is $99,000 (as of 2020, per kingcounty.gov/en/legacy/independent/forecasting/king-county-economy-status/king-county-economic-indicators/household-income). So basically 3x higher in the US (vs UK) for both home price and household income.
To find the AMG labor rate at a Mercedes dealer, I called Mercedes of Seattle's service department. They said that the labor rate depended on the model, the type of repair, and required a VIN. So I found a 2018 C63 S for sale on autotrader.com, and gave them that VIN, and asked for a quote for doing pads and rotors for the front brakes. Result $4,084 for parts (!), because the rotors are ceramic. And $570 for 2 hours of labor. Which means $285/hr for labor.
To convert that $285/hr labor rate into UK prices, we divide by 3: $285/3 = £95
Thanks for giving me the idea for this experiment, it was quite fun!
BTW, the 2018 AMG C63 I used the VIN from is here: www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicle/712781457?listingType=USED&makeCode=MB&modelCode=C63AMG&newSearch=true&numRecords=25&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fmercedes-benz%2Fc-63-amg%2Fs&sortBy=relevance&trimCode=C63AMG%7CS&zip=98004&clickType=supplemental
@@CarThought (Resubmitting, as my original reply disappeared. Perhaps due to the source URL's I added for the cost info? I've deleted them now) That's a very insightful observation, as I'd always thought of the UK as being more expensive, or at least equally expensive. However I never actually looked at the (salary, home price) to normalize vs. the US prices. So I did a little experiment to see if I could make sense of the mechanic labor price disparity.
Experiment results: turns out there's about a 3x multiplier (home prices, household income) b/n the UK and the USA (details below). I called a Mercedes dealer in Seattle and they quoted me $285/hour labor rate. Dividing by 3 (to normalize for UK vs USA) yields £95 pound/hr labor rate. So a bit above your £70/hr labor rate estimate, but not a huge difference.
More details: in Washington state, salaries and home prices vary widely (farmers in eastern WA, vs tech industry in the Seattle area), so if we just look at the Seattle area, the median home price is $850,000. And the median household income is $99,000. So basically 3x higher in the US (vs UK) for both home price and household income.
To find the AMG labor rate at a Mercedes dealer, I called Mercedes of Seattle's service department. They said that the labor rate depended on the model, the type of repair, and required a VIN. So I found a 2018 C63 S for sale on autotrader.com, and gave them that VIN, and asked for a quote for doing pads and rotors for the front brakes. Result $4,084 for parts (!), because the rotors are ceramic. And $570 for 2 hours of labor. Which means $285/hr for labor.
Dividing $285/3 = £95 (for the 3x multiplier, USA vs UK)
250 miles / month jesus christ i drive about 200 a day, i would be 30x over your monthly miles i cant imagine owning this
200 miles a day in the UK would cost you £16,500 for the first year in fuel 😂. The car would reach its end of life within 12 months. I don’t think it’s for you 😀
I’ve got a full decat and getting 170 per tank 😂😂😂
Still got mine 1 year later. I think I, like everyone else, will regret selling their c63 down the line!
How about the 30k worth of money which gets put down the drain which the owners could have saved up in cash in 3 years if they didn't have the car?
That's serious money man.
Don’t buy a c63 if you have cost concerts best advice I can give you. If you don’t care about cost buy a c63 and enjoyed as is a beast .204 amazing and legend 205 modern faster and the last c63 v8 produce
I think it’s great to say, and in practice I think it really depends on how much value you put on the V8 experience. I also think it largely depends on which country you live in (aka fuel prices) right now for premium in the UK it’s about $8.93/gallon.
If you were daily driving a C63 in the UK it’s about the same as running a small apartment each month, apart from the apartment will be increasing in value much faster than the car.
No matter whether you’re bothered about costs or not.. it’s not the wisest decision to own one here (if you actually want to use it all the time).
@@CarThought in my personal opinion and with the experience of owning one I think is a luxury car that can be use as a daily drive but is too expensive for that I was spending nearly £50 a week just in petrol and not doing long miles in comfort mode i still have it and I love it but currently I am using it only average 4k miles per year as I have a business van so is mainly my weekend car so is great for that. Is a expensive car to run and I think is the reason not many people keep it for long I was going to sell it but after see the new c63s i thought I will keep it I think you made a mistake selling yours as that coupe model will be a future classic and will be keep value . I have a white c63s coupe tune and with downpipes and is eu unrestricted as it is a 2016 model so loud not far from w204 except when in in race mode i think sound beast .I am planning to keep it as won’t be anymore c63s v8 .
how on earth is your insurance so cheap??
Because is on parent as main probably. Im 42 full discount and mine is £680
No one else on my insurance thanks. Most likely because it’s garaged 24/7, live in a low crime area, 10 years no claims, and there aren’t many C63’s about (low claim car) might help?
What happened to the channel?
I tried to get and insurance quote on one
No one would insure me
Probs coz I’m 18😭😭
£80 for tracking...
Not sure if that’s cheap or expensive for you? The term ‘Alignment’ or ‘tracking’ is used excessively everywhere. And typically only refers to adjustment of toe in/out. I usually go for 4 wheel geometry, particularly on my old MX5 (roughly £120, with corner weighting) which adjusts caster, camber and thrust angle (if the car has capability for it). Most garages aren’t competent to perform a full geometry adjustment in the UK (even if they have the correct equipment for it). Just don’t get confused between adjusting your ‘tracking’ at Halfords for £40, and a full geometry set up 👍
@@CarThought That's because the only ajustable component is the tie rods. If you want to change camber and caster and all the other things you mentioned I'm pretty sure it requires bolt ons 🙄...
@@RyanKingLogue he had his pants down with most things it seems
No offence intended, but you’re definitely not a C63 owner if you think £80 is expensive for a wheel alignment - this car is £630 a year to tax, £180 a tire, £100 to fill up with fuel etc. etc.
@@CarThought No offence to you, but I don't think you know what a tie rod is 😆😅
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Damn that pretty cheap for what you for it
Surprised you didn’t add in depreciation, that’s a cost. Glad your out of that car, too noises tbh.
The car didn’t depreciate in my ownership 👍
If you buy a performance car..You really really should not have to be worrying how much it costs to run or insure..Otherwise buy a Fiesta..
No.. that’s like saying ‘if you earn £125,000 a year, you really really shouldn’t care how much tax you pay’ 😂
P.S.. I also own a fiesta 🤷♂️😀
Yo u gotta drive the car like an old person for 4 years once past the four years if u marking 15 dollars an hour living with ur parents like this dude an not making ur parents feel like a bank because u have ur own saved u can offord it just can’t play stupid cause I’ve owned a C250 an I did everything myself cause I’m my own mechanic everything he just did to his car was disappointing to me like y would u take of the carbon defuser even if it’s not the real one it’s still what made the value lol what I’m like yo he ain’t a real 63 owner cause plus he didn’t keep for that long just cause winter I feel like he was definitely struggling wit dat shit I drove my car thru the winter an it was great yea I had to fix some lign’s because the got frozen an plus they were already “plastic/frail if anyone has owned a 63 an 250 only u would know y’all would prefer the 250 swear it’s better yea it’s slower but are u smart or stupid u can only pick one
Anyone’s Google translate work on this language? Mine says it can’t detect it.
Are you ok?💀
Auto correct is a bitch 🙄
Bro I think you missed your short bus today
if you can't afford it don't buy it buddy.