I will never ever forget being 14 years old and watching a former homicide detective on Oprah who said: Never ever let someone take you from location A to location B. 2 decades later when I was in my mid thirties I was asked by someone if I would like to join him for coffee. I did. We remained in the bookshop's coffee shop. Then he asked if I wanted to drink something "harder" ie alcohol and those detective's words shot through my head and I politely declined. I was not moving to location B.
We had a police officer come to our school to talk to the girls about personal safety. He said exactly the same thing. Once you've been transported somewhere, you've lost some of your independence and power. You've potentially been isolated from those who will look out for you. Never ever forgotten that - its wise advice.
@@InLieuTube That is not entirely accurate. If it saves your life, go ahead and apply it to whatever you wish i.e. like the above person did with a complete stranger. Why would you negate that message by arguing semantics? It’s completely tone-deaf and tactless….there is a far more tactful way of stating that while it can be applied to any event…they mean it ESPECIALLY when -insert your quotes-. It can *still* be applied in any situation you feel iffy about where there are two differences locations and a stranger or person who makes you feel off. That’s all it is…it is meant to save, to protect. ✌🏻
I remember hearing about this and just amazed how the husband immediately sprung into action. His detective work really was the catalyst to the police piecing it together
If it wasnt for the husband this case would have turned into another cold case because we know the last thing cops do is solve cases. Ladies always allow someone to have your location st all times be safe.
@@reggaefan2700 what are you talking about ? Who said anything about the dad? And even if it’s not her biological dad, it’s her dad in every way that matters. You can see the love there.
When a woman is married, she should not be going out to nightclubs, let alone drinking without her husband present. He could have protected her but obviously he’s a true Simp. This is why modern woman think their behavior does not result into tragic consequences. This girl probably cheated on him many times before this.
I heard this case from a UA-cam true crime story teller. Listening to this, from the families, hits in a completely different way. After my sister was murdered in 2020 I've been obsessed with true crime. I feel the pain for these families and friends, and I pray that they get the justice they all deserve. ❤
So sorry for your loss. I do totally understand as my dad was murdered in 2011and I am the same way. Hope your family got justice for your sister because our fa.ily hasn't and probably never will.
Oh my. I'm so sorry about your sister... Those words ring hollow I'm sure...We don't Really have the right words that encompasses that level of grief...
Those girls were actively dying all day and not one of the 3 men did a damn thing. Inexcusable and all 3 should be accountable and put away without parole.
they were doing coke by choice. mess around with drugs bad things happen. there has to be some acountability on their part for all their lousy choices. doing cocaine. going back to mens apartmets. The texts clearly show they made these choices willingly. stupid choices.
I swear! I truly done it all very young and seen too much. I even was outside stuck with 2 men during a shootout at the club I worked at and I’m hiding by the car they were next to when shooting. I cud have gotten shot being a witness, they knew I was out there but I kept circling the car so they cudnt see me. I truly am blessed to be here. That lifestyle is not okay and it’s played out. I don’t miss the drugs, the feeling I felt the day after, the stuff I saw. Life is so much better simple. I wud rather stay home watching a good show or movie than be out and not kno if im coming home that night
Moral of the story... Don't try to live the American dream. Stay true to your roots, don't lead shallow and pretentious lives to fill the hole in your empty soul. If one is easily impressed by wealth and luxury, one will fall prey to certain people, especially as a young woman.
@G R I guess dangerous and risky situations are fun for a lot of people? Don't know it's weird. Even if/when doing mild drugs it's a lot safer to do so in the safety of your own home
@@ellelulu7994 The ABC's for becoming a Christian. (SAVED SOUL) A - Admit - Admit to God that you are a sinner. Repent, turning away from your sin. "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." Romans 3:23 B - Believe - Believe that Jesus is God's Son and accept God's gift of forgiveness from sin. "While we were sinners, Christ died for us." Romans 5:8 C - Confess - Confess your faith in Jesus Christ as your Savior and Lord. "If you will confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 10:9
Absolutely reprehensible but not surprising. Think of the Kitty Genovese case. People sat around doing nothing as they listened to her being beat to death outside. Humans can be genuine pos.
@Kas Yes the autopsy showed vaginal bleeding and abrasion. If he used lubricant, condom & cleaned her up, there would be no evidence left behind. He's a smart predator, not his first time at the sexual assault rodeo. 😣
For real , what the world is that , I suppose he thinks it makes him look .... 🤔 Sexy ? I don't think so , he looks weird and creepy and someone phony , which he is , so damm sad . I live in Alabama and I hate to see these families so heartbroken because of that predator , that's what he is , a disgusting predator.
While this is sad and sick, it’s ridiculous when parents say “oh she would never do drugs. Your perfect kids do a lot of stuff you don’t want to admit to
Yeah I don't see these girls willing take a rape date drug . I believe they were drugged . Yeah sure some women trust doing drugs with strangers . I know I did something at a party but I can say I had guardian angels and if I didn't ask God for help I would be dead . Ive learn my lesson
My sister was found off ortega HwY after she went missing after a date with her ex . It was ruled “ OD “ . GHB & alcohol . Instead of taking her to a hospital he kept her body and later dumped her 😢 people like these deserve the same respect they gave to these females - none . #justiceforericaalonso 48 hours when can you do my sisters case ? Please
Yes! I heard your sisters case through a true crime youtuber. Im so very sorry for your loss. I thought about your sisters case for days. I pray that there will be justice for your sister and that God gives you and your family the strength to continue fighting for justice. What can we do to help you get more attention from 48 hrs? ❤❤ #JusticeForEricaAlonso
I am a huge fan of 48 hours and the entire cast. I have been watching this show for years and I am not even American, I am Tunisian. This helped me learn English and even do my major in English language and literature. Prayers for the girls and the families they left behind …
@hughjaanus6680his is ridiculous. All accents are valid. And I hear Americans speaking many accents but never hear those silent Ts or Ts as Ds in words that you mention. If an American ever said this to you about Irish English accents, you would scream about how obnoxious Americans are. 🙄
@hughjaanus6680 Sounds like a T to me, and I'm Canadian. And even if it sounds like D to you, that's irrelevant. It's not horrible, it's how hundreds of millions of people speak. And it's absolutely snotty to mock and judge how others speak. Is it ok to say that the way the Irish speak is horrible because of how you pronounce things? Just own it and say you don't like Americans or how they speak. Or whatever your issue is. And he says "a blog called The Dirty", not what you claim to have heard. Maybe actually listen?
Lots of nit-pickers on YT, ha-ha! To hear perfect English, listen to a Professor of Philosophy or the BBC. Yes, some Americans use slang, have bad grammar and mis-pronounce words, bc they lack much formal education. But i bet that happens in ALL languages. (Before the war, i was trying to learn the difficult Russian language partially by watching native speakers & movies on YT. But sadly, i now see no hope of ever visiting that country : ( Have you read the wonderful olde Am. book "Walden" yet?
@@reggaefan2700 the person above is talking about the guy that Christy eloped with named Yan. I think they said he's initially from South Africa. But how do you know Hilda's real father was white?
@Pressing Anger Produces Strife I am pretty sure that the mom meant, sadly what finally stopped the main suspect was that her daughter and the other girl had to die. As, he had been arrested for assault before and let go. Meaning, their deaths weren’t in vain; as tragic as this was.
Yes, how sad it took two lives for society to believe the type of monsters these guys are. Had they not died, defense attorneys would have been able to defend them and get them released to continue their lifestyle.
@@zerog2270that’s what I also thought…! I think she was a bit on the crazy side with everything in her life … she was young though and not necessarily made for being „married“ at least at that point in her life… generally speaking. Dangerous in general, especially in L.A. I do feel VERY sorry for these two girls though…and hope this dude will get sentenced to 💀
I see that as a sort of insane statement, a desperate attempt of someone trying to find an explabation for absurd things. Why should I believe that my daughter's life was the price paid to stop violent men from being violent? Besides, until this video was produced, they had not been tried and sentenced yet, and for what I can see, the chances that they get a light sentence are not little. Some of these people, in their grief and desperation (all perhaps laced with some pangs of conscience) say things that make no sense.
It’s kind of rude that when they explained who died they said “a model and her friend” like the other girl is somehow less important. How about a model and an architect? FFS.
I live in Vegas. Been around here since high school and I'm now in my late 40s. This is not about blaming victims. Just what I observed from living in a town like this. So many many bad choices are being made. Taking drinks and drugs from strangers. Leaving with strangers to go who knows where. I've seen women and men wandering around casino floors bleary-eyed, lost, and sun burned. Where are their friends?? Please please be careful. Actions have consequences. Nothing good will come from doing lines of coke with strangers and definitely don't leave with them. Every year that EDC comes around we brace ourselves for young people dying in the desert. Take care of yourself.
@@bluecollarlit Electric Daisy Carnival. It's the biggest dance festival or rave in North America. People all over the world come for it. It's held in the northernmost edge of town. By the desert as to not disrupt the locals. But they do anyway. We parents dread it 😮💨
@@bluecollarlit In the beginning of the show someone said, "They entered a room like a tornado" In almost every episode of 48 Hours or Dateline, the most common factor between victims, "they lit up the room" It means they made themselves a TARGET. Don't be a target. Don't crave attention, it's not always good attention. Sometimes it's bad attention.
She was not raped. It is relevant. What’s wrong with you? The mom lied too. No evidence of rape. The dude probably was a rapist but you are a person that convicts people on hunches.
@@acidmardigras6235 You just made a very generalizing statement about my character based on a single sentence I posted as a comment. Now who is convicting people on hunches, hm?
@@acidmardigras6235 I'm at 21:55 and I had to pause the video and scroll down to read the comments, coz I got too overwhelmed, as a woman myself. My *immediate* assumption, when I see too drugged up women, following three big burly guys, back to one car, is that they are going to be gang raped! Is it wrong to assume, yes. Is my assumption justified 99% of the time.. yes, once again.
@@acidmardigras6235The OP didn’t even say they were raped. She said that asking the mother if she thought they were raped was pointless and in poor taste. Reading comprehension is everything.
My deepest sympathies to the broken hearted families. Thank you for sharing their stories that may help another, even amid your pain it’s so generous and kind.
I live in LA and remember this all over the news. Later on I saw the ugly face of Osborn and realized I met him a few times on different sets. I also share 3 mutual friends with him on FB. There are so many predictors like Pierce in LA that I decided not to go to the clubs ever. Don’t take any drinks from anybody, don’t leave your drinks and go use the bathroom, etc. be as careful as possible. My heart breaks for these girls. Both smart and stunning. May they RIP.
They were vivacious young women in their 20’s, many, many have done similar things, trusting people they had just met at a party, club, etc, but these young women definitely had very bad luck as a result of it. 😢
A fate worse than death itself,to outlive one's own beloved child. My heart goes out to these two beautiful young girls mother's because I know their pain truly. It truly IS worse than death.
I lost my mom 5 years ago. I wouldn’t wish this pain on the worst enemy. Losing a loved one is equally horrible, regardless if it’s the loss of your child or your parent. I would trade places with my mom if I could.
@@LostHope84 I cannot speak on how a father feels. I am not one. I can only speak on what a mother feels because that's what I am. It's no afront. In fact quite the opposite. I think it would be more of an afront if I did try to say that I know what a man feels like when he loses his child because that's absurd. Of course I do not.
I grew up in this area, around men in the entertainment field, and this predator may have lied about being a producer, but there are even real producers who were/are predators. I was always on guard around these men. I know how they throw their power, real or imagined, around. I have been to parties where it took guy friends to get my friends and I out safely. One time, a group of my friends and I were at a party and the guys weren’t letting us leave. It took us getting a couple of good guys to get us out. Be careful who you party with, especially now, with Fentanyl laced drugs. Is that one night of fun really worth your life?
It's not even fun because it's fake, just like the entertainment field and the vibes of LA in general. Don't buy into the glamor hype. Take a trip down Skid Row to see the LA that lies beneath the surface.
@@junemarshall-kingsley566 skid row? U do not need to go that far. Go on the Hollywood boulevard of fame. I would call it a shame. Or next to any 7/11, or ANYWHERE in USA
My father was a double transplant recipient. When I heard that Hilda's organs were given to others, I was so sad for her family, and so overjoyed for the families whose loved ones will live more years due to this one family's generosity. When they said she died one day before her 27th birthday, my immediate thought was, "No, not really. Elsewhere, families are celebrating her birthday while they celebrate the renewed lives, hopes, and dreams of the ones she saved." Thank you, Cabrales family. You'll never know the lives Hilda has saved by your generosity. I hope you know that the ripple effect of her death now includes so much good in the world because of your actions. Thank you for helping others in your grief.
as a 27-year-old also living in LA, and being relatively new to LA, this case always cut deep for me. I think about this case a lot from time to time. It is so easy for our generation to meet people out in these environments, who seem like nice, fun people. It’s so easy for them to offer you a bump of some thing, and if you feel like you’ve hit it off with them even in the slightest, you feel like you can trust them. all it takes is one wrong bump from someone you thought you could “trust”, and your life can be over.
Yes, it's so easy to end up doing coke at 3am in an apartment with three strange men whom you just met at a club.. This happens to responsible people ALL THE TIME!
@@iamtylerwells You claimed it was easy for anyone to end up in that situation, when in reality it's not and 99% of the population would never put themselves or their own wife in such a situation.
When I think of Los Angeles, I NEVER think of the glimmer and glamour. I ALWAYS think of the crime, trash, gangs, and heavy traffic. It's why I moved from there right after the Rodney King riots. Total cesspool.
I don't blame you. I used to want to move to LA when I was young and about to graduate highschool. I was going to move after I graduated, but thankfully I ended up dating a girl that kept me in Connecticut. Then I grew up a bit and realized LA was just not the place to be.
@@swayslay2070 yeah everyone makes bad decisions in their 20’s and some people pay the ultimate price for them - has to be harder on the parents knowing that their kids’ own choices led down that road.
I live in South Korea and when I heard she'd lived here I searched Hilda's name in an expat women's group on FB that I'm in and saw that she was a member. The expat community here is so small and tight-knit, it hits home a bit more. Small world. RIP to both of them
This is tragic. As a woman I don’t EVER take anything from strange men and never go to their place. We have to be aware that there are bad people out there. Personal responsibility is key in situations like this.
Yes- not said enough. Getting drugs from someone you don’t know led to this whole situation. They willingly took what they thought was coke, then things went wrong. Personal responsibility and knowledge of the reality of the world we live in just can’t be removed from this equation. You can’t expect predators to do what is best for you, you have to do what is best for you.
@@soniawright9279 Exactly, you can’t except a predator to do what’s best for you. Well said. I hope this tragedy serves as a cautionary tale to other young women.
Their guards were off, they were too trusting I suspect. I’ve done similar stupid things in my past for being too trusting, naive and stupid, taken drugs from newly met “friends” in the club. I’m petrified that I could have died so many times. I believe that angels were watching over me, there is no way I was so lucky for no reason. I took ecstasy, MDMA and tranquilizers. The very last time I took supposedly ecstasy was something else , it barely felt any high however the side effects were incredibly severe. I’m sure it was some identifiable mixture in that pill. I was moaning from pain and sickness, all organs in my body were aching, I literally was just laying in bed and moaning after that night out. I haven’t took drugs since.
It just occurred to me, she had 4 months in LA after all those exciting years. She would have been safer lived longer at her father's in MEXICO where crime is rampant.
Beyond careless. More like RECKLESS. This is not about taking drugs... This is about TAKING DRUGS FROM A STRANGER. With all of the news stories out there about women being slipped drugs that incapacitate them, why in the world would ANY woman put herself in that position?!
The producers, crew and cast of 48 Hours have amazing talent and ability to tell what happened. Each and every episode reveals the people who are hurt and the loss to humanity. I'm still weeping. Maybe, in a very small way, the friends and family of these beautiful woman can take heart that Christy and Hilda are not forgotten. Well done 48 Hours.❤
Uploading these episodes is the smartest thing the network has ever done. They know a lot of us will watch them more than once, comment on the videos, subscribe, and this means they can get loads of advertising money off young people who don’t have cable. Just pure genius.
That was exactly what I thought when I saw the amount of views these videos get. I'm surprised every network doesn't do it. It's easy extra money for them.
Lived in La for a year and couldn’t take it. The way people treated each other was horrible. The way MEN treated women was even worst. They weren’t beating them up but always looking drug or “score” at a party. Glad I’ve left it. Got into so many arguments and fights with dudes out there.
Spring cleaning the garage … in autumn … with wind howling outside and rain falling … it’s a Saturday and I’m listening to your channel as I work. It’s one of my favourite things to do 🇿🇦
I think things worked out for the husband. She clearly was a woman with problems and was going to hurt him someday. She probably already cheated on him many times
@@peters8181 Right, she was hoeing out hard acting single while married. Guy had no back bone and no ability to establish boundaries. May it be a lesson to both men and women.
Dear Women, Remember and spread the message of the Whisper Movement. Tell all the girls and women you know. Whenever a man interacts with you anywhere; school, college, work etc. Always tell your friends every thing about him. Especially if he is a man in a position of power. If he's bad tell them he's bad and what he did. And tell them to spread the word to other women and so on. A man's bad deeds must be known to every woman in that organization. Save any messages that he may send you. Take screenshots. Forward them to women. Quietly share all his dirty deeds and secrets with all the women. Do not let him take the advantage of your silence. Build a network and warn women. Women must know who to stay away from. Spread the word. Do not keep quiet. It's because of silence that men like these get away with so much. So many women had suffered before these two girls but it was unknown to other women. Get together and destroy these filthy incels and ra.pists.
Sounds like they were relatively good at watching things up until 5:30am. Not sure how long GHB takes, but they could have already been given one for the road right before that. The trial will be interesting to hear more.
These two young women were enjoying life so much, they didn't think of the dangers that are out there. Sadly, that's what young people in America think, have fun, good times and me too, when I was young. I pray young people will see this and be more attentive to their surroundings and make better choices. When we're young, we think we are invincible but we sure are not!
Not really. "Brain death" doesn't mean death as most people understand it. People are fullly alive when their organs are taken and it has to happen fast. If someone is really dead the organs are useless. The concept of "brain death" was specifically introduced to increase donations. It's also a lucrative business... Most people are misinformed about this.
This message is for young girls and ladies in general don't ever go out to bars and nightclubs with stangers you just met online or anywhere be street smart and make sure even if you go out and want have a pleasant time be in the company of your close friends the ones you can trust and rely on. Moreover, don't do drugs if you drink alcohol be casual drinker my sincere condolences and sympathies to their loved ones. May you forever rest in peace
Don’t try to control women like that. It’s absolutely fine as woman to go out alone as long as you watch your drink like a hawk, don’t take anything (drinks, drugs) from anyone, don’t leave with anyone, and wait in a well-lit public place for your Uber (or park in a well-lit public place if you’re not drinking and are driving yourself). I am a woman and I have done this plenty of times. Women deserve to have lives. Don’t try to take that away from us.
@@Pinktulips9824 What? What did I say about drugs (other than “don’t take drugs from strangers,” which is a rule I’m pretty sure most people would agree with)? I’m saying women should be able to go out at night alone-not sure what that has to do with drugs.
Victim shaming? Really? Omg, y'all are unbelievable!!! So people can't have fun anymore because there might be a predator around? One of those men should have been incarcerated for previous sex crimes!!! But because society, like y'all blame the victim, he wasn't. It's not like they knew what was going to happen or I'm sure they wouldn't have gone. And they went out dancing with friends, so not alone. And they wanted to leave but weren't allowed to. Poor girls 😢
Feel sorry for the husband. He doesn't want to let himself believe some things, I think. Yes, his wife was ultimately there against her will. But she clearly went there willingly. To some dudes house. That isn't an innocent night out with the girls. Not when you leave the club to some dude and his friends house.
Or maybe the men had already slipped something in their drinks at the party and that’s why they first went willingly to his house… it happens all the time… “date rape drug”
I cannot even fathom how a "human being" can not "feel" anything, and hurt anyone like this. I mean, they all have families, siblings. Are they dead inside?😢
Dear Women, Remember and spread the message of the Whisper Movement. Tell all the girls and women you know. Whenever a man interacts with you anywhere; school, college, work etc. Always tell your friends every thing about him. Especially if he is a man in a position of power. If he's bad tell them he's bad and what he did. And tell them to spread the word to other women and so on. A man's bad deeds must be known to every woman in that organization. Save any messages that he may send you. Take screenshots. Forward them to women. Quietly share all his dirty deeds and secrets with all the women. Do not let him take the advantage of your silence. Build a network and warn women. Women must know who to stay away from. Spread the word. Do not keep quiet. It's because of silence that men like these get away with so much. So many women had suffered before these two girls but it was unknown to other women. Get together and destroy these filthy incels and ra.pists.
I’m assuming you didn’t go to college or know anyone who has. It’s called an “after party” and 9/10 of college kids have been to one. But okay keep blaming the victims for what happened
@@Dreabz617 in this case, not a “normal” afterparty. These men know the ladies were already high in coke and that the latter would probably just go with them without thinking properly. Their judgements were clouded -in normal circumstances people would have detected their invite as a red flag, especially Christy who was married and would probably not go with guys she did not know during such late hours.
Dear Women, Remember and spread the message of the Whisper Movement. Tell all the girls and women you know. Whenever a man interacts with you anywhere; school, college, work etc. Always tell your friends every thing about him. Especially if he is a man in a position of power. If he's bad tell them he's bad and what he did. And tell them to spread the word to other women and so on. A man's bad deeds must be known to every woman in that organization. Save any messages that he may send you. Take screenshots. Forward them to women. Quietly share all his dirty deeds and secrets with all the women. Do not let him take the advantage of your silence. Build a network and warn women. Women must know who to stay away from. Spread the word. Do not keep quiet. It's because of silence that men like these get away with so much. So many women had suffered before these two girls but it was unknown to other women. Get together and destroy these filthy incels and ra.pists.
Hildas father made me bawl 😭 Then to be so brave and strong and generous to donate her organs to give other life. What a beautiful pure family and what a terribly sad story for two young girls with their whole lives ahead of them. 😥
I’m not too quick on saying that she was cheating. However, she was 24 at the time of her passing. 24 year olds do consume substances and party. So it could just be she went for fun.
She partied with guys and gals because she lived 'out of the box', she was 'free spirited and danger was not part of her vocabulary'. = careless, risky behavior.
I been to these parties but I never took drugs or left with strangers and also I never went alone with females only my best guy friends were our body guards 😂
@@elizabethp4064 You had better stop going there. You never take drugs but others do. You seem to be reasoning like a driver who believes that, because he is a good and careful driver, he'll never suffer an accident.
My dad always told me that if you are in a club and you need to use the bathroom, either take the drink with u or throw it out, don't drink from it if you leave it alone. Imagine going home with someone u just met 😢
As a father to a 20 year old daughter, i always tell her not to ever put herself in this situation. I tell her to always be aware of her surroundings and if she has to drink that never accept any drink from anyone even from a friend and never do drugs.
Dear Women, Remember and spread the message of the Whisper Movement. Tell all the girls and women you know. Whenever a man interacts with you anywhere; school, college, work etc. Always tell your friends every thing about him. Especially if he is a man in a position of power. If he's bad tell them he's bad and what he did. And tell them to spread the word to other women and so on. A man's bad deeds must be known to every woman in that organization. Save any messages that he may send you. Take screenshots. Forward them to women. Quietly share all his dirty deeds and secrets with all the women. Do not let him take the advantage of your silence. Build a network and warn women. Women must know who to stay away from. Spread the word. Do not keep quiet. It's because of silence that men like these get away with so much. So many women had suffered before these two girls but it was unknown to other women. Get together and destroy these filthy incels and ra.pists.
@JANUARY. I'm sure he does know. However, you can not stop your grown children from making their own choices. All you can do is to talk to them about the consequences of those choices. And warn them of the dangerous people out there waiting to prey upon someone who is vulnerable.
We have to be really insistent with this when talking to our children. Teenagers and young people take bad decisions and with that I include myself when young. There are predators and evil people everywhere waiting for a vulnerable prey.
Most parents tell their kids that . Most kids ignore their parents and survive. These poor women did not deserve this no matter if they used drugs recreationally.
I'm not victim blaming but people have to make better decisions. It's one thing if you're just minding your business and harm comes to you, but don't make decisions that put you in danger like this. Don't do drugs, dont do drugs with strangers, if you're going somewhere, esp a shady place let others know where you are and who you're with.
Absolutely. All these other comments make me nauseous. Snorting lines with 3 complete strangers then agreeing to go back to their houses definitely wasn't the smartest choice they could have made
Exactly! I’ve been young and love to party but my thing was to go home. Not with some shady guys to some after party. Many girls did such things for free drugs and some career promises… it’s just not right right. Many girls get raped and won’t say anything and then there’s heartbreaking things like this. You can tell in the party photo that one of the girls is already high and how close that guy was on her and his face expression. Burning man and such places are not exactly for the people who don’t use drugs so these 2 girls were already in it. But should buy their own drugs if they needed any and stay away from VIP people.
Not realistic! That’s like teaching abstinence from sex, people will continue to have sex and do drugs, just do it responsibly if possible and trust your gut.
when a female hangs out at a party with strangers, pose for pictures with them, allow them to buy you drinks, take drugs with them, then leave with 3 males to their apartment; you are putting yourselves in grave danger. Three strange males with two pretty drugged up females in their apartment is destined to end badly. Really sad
Exactly I don’t want to say it but I will ppl gloss over the fact these girls wanted to get high. And being married and going with strange men and using drugs it’s crazy to me never . I just don’t understand how grown women do these type of things
Exactly what I thought. One of the girls was already married. Both women were apparently conscious when they went to their apartment when they called for an Uber. I hope the guys get harsh punishment but these girls could easily avoid the whole situation.
@@Tangga1boy01 Someone in another thread said the married one and the husband were on the outs ... and that's why he was in San Francisco because they weren't really together anymore ; but I don't know if that's true . I haven't looked into it . I really hope some women out there will pay heed to this horribly tragic cautionary story .
Really moving when the hospital staff clapped when she was being wheeled down the hall for her organ donation. These families are amazing and organ donation is a great gift that at least makes this life snuffed too soon not have been in vain.
The clapping is unnecessary. Unfortunately, knowing a person is an organ donor or after having aggressively convinced a grieving family to sign off on organs, hospital staff will cease all attempts to revive and may even give you the paralyzing shot that gets your body ready to cut open to get at those organs. There is a ton of money in organ donation.
@@bambinaforever1402 Is this what you would say if it could save your child? She's already gone, at least someone else could live. I found the clapping distasteful nonetheless.
This is an eye opener to all women don't drink or take drugs with the people u just met,and always bring an extra friend that will look after u if u go for parrying, condolence to the bereaved family 🙏
Here's an idea - don't go to a rave or a club to dance with strangers and do drugs and then go home with men you don't know to do more drugs, especially if you are married.
Amazing? They were users and the other one is married and she's out with random men. She's getting her cheeks clapped by others with her wedding ring on.
@@MemeTechTales unfortunately I’m not going to lie, she’s was very wealthy and beautiful and popular. But she knew it and wasn’t very let’s say “kind” but that was a long time ago and she has probably grown very much. That’s how most of her current friends have described her so I believe it.
I’ve heard this story before, but never knew they were in the apartment for so long after that night out until they could drop them at the hospital the next night. That’s so sad.
Didn't understand partying and drinking in college in the '60s and still don't.. Staying at home with a good book and in bed by 9 for my health has paid off in untold ways. Never see a doctor, on NO meds and still love gardening. Yes, your past will catch up with you. Be prepared!!
I'm confused as to how any woman could go with men they met at a party, men they weren't dating and trust them to not have nefarious intentions? Men leaving with men, yes, women leaving with women, yes, but women leaving with men they just met? NO. This is not a judgement on these women, I'm nearly seventy years old and just so very confused that people put their trust in stranger's with nothing more to go on than a smile and an assumption.
Even if it is "a judgement on these women" it's perfectly ok. It's ridiculous that so many people whine about "vicim blaming" when the FACT of the matter is IF these two "intelligent, bright, witty, educated" women used their heads and made better decisions, THEY'D STILL BE HERE.
This is the best true crime show out there, but I'm really sick of men taking advantage of women and children....then ending their lives. They both had so much going for them, living their best lives and it's just unreal. 😢 My condolences to both families 🙏🙏
Ur sick of men taking advantage of women and children? Women and children are safer in this day and age than they’ve literally ever been in any other time in human history. And there are plenty of women that help men kidnap and assault other women and plenty of women that take advantage of their kids. It’s an human problem, not just a male problem and framing it like that isn’t useful at all.
@@udontevenwannaknowbruv you mean M. Let’s stop phrasing this as if it’s a gender neutral issue. W don’t prey on M anywhere near as much as M prey on W.
Sick of men really??? Did they force themselves on d girls? They met these men at d vip spot, they figured they had money n probably drugs, they danced and laughed with them n then they ended up following guys they just met at a party home. That says a lot about their personalities. Y’all should stop blaming the men. The question should be what is a supposed married lady doing at a party after midnight. U can’t live a crazy lifestyle and not expect consequences. This is d result of their own actions. Not d men.
Dear Women, Remember and spread the message of the Whisper Movement. Tell all the girls and women you know. Whenever a man interacts with you anywhere; school, college, work etc. Always tell your friends every thing about him. Especially if he is a man in a position of power. If he's bad tell them he's bad and what he did. And tell them to spread the word to other women and so on. A man's bad deeds must be known to every woman in that organization. Save any messages that he may send you. Take screenshots. Forward them to women. Quietly share all his dirty deeds and secrets with all the women. Do not let him take the advantage of your silence. Build a network and warn women. Women must know who to stay away from. Spread the word. Do not keep quiet. It's because of silence that men like these get away with so much. So many women had suffered before these two girls but it was unknown to other women. Get together and destroy these filthy incels and ra.pists.
I feel so bad for those women, they must have been so scared when they were drugged and then not allowed to leave! That text message with the emoji says a lot! Either they started picking up bad vibes or the drugs were kicking in..They knew they needed to leave!! "Let’s Go 😳"
@@Dreabz617 truth is both at fault making event happen no in between not shocking same story seen dozens times over the years just saying all gonna be there one day just saying
There was an old saying in my country that evil spirits start to roam after midnight, and they will harm people stay outside. Symbolically, what it means is that after night falls, nothing good take place. Shady activities like crimes, drugs, prostitution and bad human behaviors come in to surface with the night fall.
Hearing the story about the medical staff clapping to honor Hilda's donation of her organs as she was wheeled to surgery just took me over the top in tears. Such a tragic loss of life with these two dear girls. Thank Goodness others will have the chance of life with Hilda's organs.
It’s called The Walk of Honor. It’s unbelievably moving to witness. Her final act will save many others. It is about the most honorable thing I can think of.
1) Being beautiful or not is irrelevant. 2) Don't use euphemisms. Say they liked to use drugs. 3) They were in a dance club in the U.S. = It's common knowledge that most people there are under the influence and/or selling drugs.
FACTS!!! I hate it when the media or 3v3n people say, she was so beautiful what a tragedy. It DOES NOT MATTER if you were model gorgeous or ordinary, and in this video they literally showed a clip off the news a "model and her friend". Like let Hilda be her own person too.
I screamed “yes!!!” out loud when they said that monster was being charged with their murders. Prayers for the families, and that justice is served….😢🙏
@@MemeTechTales I don’t think you’re responding to me. But, if you are, I have no idea what you’re talking about with the “your country” part. Could you explain, please, if you are intending to respond to my message?
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I will never ever forget being 14 years old and watching a former homicide detective on Oprah who said: Never ever let someone take you from location A to location B. 2 decades later when I was in my mid thirties I was asked by someone if I would like to join him for coffee. I did. We remained in the bookshop's coffee shop. Then he asked if I wanted to drink something "harder" ie alcohol and those detective's words shot through my head and I politely declined. I was not moving to location B.
We had a police officer come to our school to talk to the girls about personal safety. He said exactly the same thing. Once you've been transported somewhere, you've lost some of your independence and power. You've potentially been isolated from those who will look out for you. Never ever forgotten that - its wise advice.
Smart decison.
That’s the same lesson that I taught my daughter at a young age. She’s a teenager now and has told several of her friends this same piece of advice.
@@InLieuTube That is not entirely accurate. If it saves your life, go ahead and apply it to whatever you wish i.e. like the above person did with a complete stranger. Why would you negate that message by arguing semantics? It’s completely tone-deaf and tactless….there is a far more tactful way of stating that while it can be applied to any event…they mean it ESPECIALLY when -insert your quotes-. It can *still* be applied in any situation you feel iffy about where there are two differences locations and a stranger or person who makes you feel off. That’s all it is…it is meant to save, to protect. ✌🏻
the cop was talking about kidnapping/hostage situations. not potential suitors. lmao.
I remember hearing about this and just amazed how the husband immediately sprung into action. His detective work really was the catalyst to the police piecing it together
If it wasnt for the husband this case would have turned into another cold case because we know the last thing cops do is solve cases. Ladies always allow someone to have your location st all times be safe.
Hilda is not his real daughter. Her real dad is white.
@@reggaefan2700 what are you talking about ? Who said anything about the dad? And even if it’s not her biological dad, it’s her dad in every way that matters. You can see the love there.
I know right? The detectives/ police don't seem to do all the work anymore.
When a woman is married, she should not be going out to nightclubs, let alone drinking without her husband present. He could have protected her but obviously he’s a true Simp.
This is why modern woman think their behavior does not result into tragic consequences.
This girl probably cheated on him many times before this.
I heard this case from a UA-cam true crime story teller. Listening to this, from the families, hits in a completely different way. After my sister was murdered in 2020 I've been obsessed with true crime. I feel the pain for these families and friends, and I pray that they get the justice they all deserve. ❤
I’m so sorry about your sister. 🫂
I'm so sorry for your loss❤
So sorry for your loss. I do totally understand as my dad was murdered in 2011and I am the same way. Hope your family got justice for your sister because our fa.ily hasn't and probably never will.
Thank you for sharing and so sorry about your loss 💕
Oh my. I'm so sorry about your sister... Those words ring hollow I'm sure...We don't Really have the right words that encompasses that level of grief...
Those girls were actively dying all day and not one of the 3 men did a damn thing. Inexcusable and all 3 should be accountable and put away without parole.
And the neighbour. Don't forget the neighbour. He keard for hours to the moans and groans of someone in pain and never moved a finger.
Or the neighbor! Another blooper is didn't the ones at the hospitals who received the girls, identify who dropped them off and told them those things?
Exactly, all three men. Not just one and a possible smh.
they were doing coke by choice. mess around with drugs bad things happen. there has to be some acountability on their part for all their lousy choices. doing cocaine. going back to mens apartmets. The texts clearly show they made these choices willingly. stupid choices.
@@scooter2501They were targeted by a predator who had a history of sexual assault.
Staying home and not doing drugs is truly sooo underrated.. Can take years to realize that type of wisdom though
I swear! I truly done it all very young and seen too much. I even was outside stuck with 2 men during a shootout at the club I worked at and I’m hiding by the car they were next to when shooting. I cud have gotten shot being a witness, they knew I was out there but I kept circling the car so they cudnt see me. I truly am blessed to be here. That lifestyle is not okay and it’s played out. I don’t miss the drugs, the feeling I felt the day after, the stuff I saw. Life is so much better simple. I wud rather stay home watching a good show or movie than be out and not kno if im coming home that night
Moral of the story... Don't try to live the American dream. Stay true to your roots, don't lead shallow and pretentious lives to fill the hole in your empty soul.
If one is easily impressed by wealth and luxury, one will fall prey to certain people, especially as a young woman.
Nothing good ever comes out of a bar!
Why does enjoying yourself have to include drugs and going back to the apartment with strangers??
@G R I guess dangerous and risky situations are fun for a lot of people? Don't know it's weird. Even if/when doing mild drugs it's a lot safer to do so in the safety of your own home
When the Dad broke down I couldn't help but tear up. God Bless all the families in this awful tragedy.
Same here… 😢
@@ellelulu7994 The ABC's for becoming a Christian. (SAVED SOUL)
A - Admit - Admit to God that you are a sinner. Repent, turning away from your sin. "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." Romans 3:23
B - Believe - Believe that Jesus is God's Son and accept God's gift of forgiveness from sin. "While we were sinners, Christ died for us." Romans 5:8
C - Confess - Confess your faith in Jesus Christ as your Savior and Lord. "If you will confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 10:9
Parents didn’t know what their daughter been doin in LA smh that txt message from Hilda asking if you wanted line 😮
Hilda is not his real daughter. Her real dad is white.
@@reggaefan2700 STOP POSTING THIS OVER AND OVER
I cannot believe that the neighbor heard moaning ALL DAY and never alerted the authorities!!! Unforgivable!!
Absolutely reprehensible but not surprising. Think of the Kitty Genovese case. People sat around doing nothing as they listened to her being beat to death outside. Humans can be genuine pos.
@Kas Yes the autopsy showed vaginal bleeding and abrasion. If he used lubricant, condom & cleaned her up, there would be no evidence left behind. He's a smart predator, not his first time at the sexual assault rodeo. 😣
@Kas The neighbor's affidavit literally says "moaning in pain." So, yeah. That's word for word.
Right! "Moaning in pain" for 6-8 hours!?! At very least I'd knock on the door and ask my neighbor (who presumably I'd know) if everything was ok.
@Kas Tf outta here.
Seeing her singing “sand panther” to her little cat playing on the beach earlier that night was so sweet. Rest in paradise, princesses 👸 ❤
Any dude that insists on pursing their lips like that in every photo should be treated as a major red flag.
I know right? His duck face in every photo was such a put off 🤢
Totally creepy.
😂 Jonathan Majors
For real , what the world is that , I suppose he thinks it makes him look .... 🤔 Sexy ? I don't think so , he looks weird and creepy and someone phony , which he is , so damm sad . I live in Alabama and I hate to see these families so heartbroken because of that predator , that's what he is , a disgusting predator.
thanks for bringing that up...that was very weird!
While this is sad and sick, it’s ridiculous when parents say “oh she would never do drugs. Your perfect kids do a lot of stuff you don’t want to admit to
Very true, some won’t admit it.
@@bonnylouwho76 as parents it's best to say "I don't believe so" " not that I know of". We never know what our children are really doing as adults.
Yeah I don't see these girls willing take a rape date drug . I believe they were drugged . Yeah sure some women trust doing drugs with strangers . I know I did something at a party but I can say I had guardian angels and if I didn't ask God for help I would be dead . Ive learn my lesson
@@FaithandNova exactly
@@bonnylouwho76 no doubt, but in this case the girls text each other about it. Lol
My sister was found off ortega HwY after she went missing after a date with her ex . It was ruled “ OD “ . GHB & alcohol . Instead of taking her to a hospital he kept her body and later dumped her 😢 people like these deserve the same respect they gave to these females - none . #justiceforericaalonso 48 hours when can you do my sisters case ? Please
I’m so sorry for your loss. That is truly awful. 😢
I’m so sorry for your loss I couldn’t imagine.
@@AshCupric thank you 🙏🏼
@@mrssassy9324 thank you
Yes! I heard your sisters case through a true crime youtuber. Im so very sorry for your loss. I thought about your sisters case for days. I pray that there will be justice for your sister and that God gives you and your family the strength to continue fighting for justice. What can we do to help you get more attention from 48 hrs? ❤❤ #JusticeForEricaAlonso
I am a huge fan of 48 hours and the entire cast. I have been watching this show for years and I am not even American, I am Tunisian. This helped me learn English and even do my major in English language and literature. Prayers for the girls and the families they left behind …
@hughjaanus6680his is ridiculous. All accents are valid. And I hear Americans speaking many accents but never hear those silent Ts or Ts as Ds in words that you mention. If an American ever said this to you about Irish English accents, you would scream about how obnoxious Americans are. 🙄
@hughjaanus6680 Sounds like a T to me, and I'm Canadian. And even if it sounds like D to you, that's irrelevant. It's not horrible, it's how hundreds of millions of people speak. And it's absolutely snotty to mock and judge how others speak. Is it ok to say that the way the Irish speak is horrible because of how you pronounce things? Just own it and say you don't like Americans or how they speak. Or whatever your issue is. And he says "a blog called The Dirty", not what you claim to have heard. Maybe actually listen?
@hughjaanus6680 I don't care. To say an accent is horrible is arrogant. Each variation gets the job done.
This show is horrendous. Exploitative and often inaccurate
Lots of nit-pickers on YT, ha-ha!
To hear perfect English, listen to a Professor of Philosophy or the
BBC. Yes, some Americans use slang, have bad grammar
and mis-pronounce words, bc they lack much formal education.
But i bet that happens in ALL languages.
(Before the war, i was trying to learn the difficult Russian language
partially by watching native speakers & movies on YT. But sadly, i
now see no hope of ever visiting that country : (
Have you read the wonderful olde Am. book "Walden" yet?
If not for the husband immediately reconstructing the girls’ actions there might be no case. I hope both families get justice.
Hilda is not his real daughter. Her real dad is white.
@@reggaefan2700 the person above is talking about the guy that Christy eloped with named Yan. I think they said he's initially from South Africa.
But how do you know Hilda's real father was white?
@@LaylaOlsen Can't you tell?
@@reggaefan2700 what? She's not dark enough? But why are you focusing so much on the fact that the dude isn't her real father? Is it you?
@@reggaefan2700 That's not true!!!
Hilda's mom is so so brave at around 40:55-57ish when she said "This was a horrible tragedy, but maybe this was the way to stop them"😔. So sad. 😢
I don’t even know what she means by that. Exactly what was a way to who? Is it this death was a way to stop the two girls from partying? I need more.
@@Averseinsomniac I’m sure you’re joking.
@Pressing Anger Produces Strife
I am pretty sure that the mom meant, sadly what finally stopped the main suspect was that her daughter and the other girl had to die. As, he had been arrested for assault before and let go. Meaning, their deaths weren’t in vain; as tragic as this was.
@@gravedigger6632 😳🤦♀️. Now I ain't saying you a grave digger🎶🎶🎶. What the heck dude? For real🤦♀️. Don't bash women🙄
Yes, how sad it took two lives for society to believe the type of monsters these guys are.
Had they not died, defense attorneys would have been able to defend them and get them released to continue their lifestyle.
Hilda's mother saying "This is a tragedy but maybe this was a way to stop them" had me in tears❤😢😢
Yes, that lady is so wise.
I have a question. Why would a married woman go to a strangers home at 4 am? she wasn't abducted
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@@zerog2270that’s what I also thought…! I think she was a bit on the crazy side with everything in her life … she was young though and not necessarily made for being „married“ at least at that point in her life… generally speaking.
Dangerous in general, especially in L.A.
I do feel VERY sorry for these two girls though…and hope this dude will get sentenced to 💀
I see that as a sort of insane statement, a desperate attempt of someone trying to find an explabation for absurd things. Why should I believe that my daughter's life was the price paid to stop violent men from being violent? Besides, until this video was produced, they had not been tried and sentenced yet, and for what I can see, the chances that they get a light sentence are not little. Some of these people, in their grief and desperation (all perhaps laced with some pangs of conscience) say things that make no sense.
It’s kind of rude that when they explained who died they said “a model and her friend” like the other girl is somehow less important. How about a model and an architect? FFS.
I felt the same way about it.
You my friend are 100% correct in your statement ❤
How about two drug addicts? It wasn't their jobs that killed them, was it ??
@@rochester212you're ridiculous. You know nothing about them. You clearly have no idea whether they were addicts or not.
the dumb stuff you women focus on is always hilarious
I live in Vegas. Been around here since high school and I'm now in my late 40s. This is not about blaming victims. Just what I observed from living in a town like this. So many many bad choices are being made. Taking drinks and drugs from strangers. Leaving with strangers to go who knows where. I've seen women and men wandering around casino floors bleary-eyed, lost, and sun burned. Where are their friends?? Please please be careful. Actions have consequences. Nothing good will come from doing lines of coke with strangers and definitely don't leave with them. Every year that EDC comes around we brace ourselves for young people dying in the desert. Take care of yourself.
I thought the same thing, the girls took a lot of risks...
What is EDC?
@@bluecollarlit Electric Daisy Carnival. It's the biggest dance festival or rave in North America. People all over the world come for it. It's held in the northernmost edge of town. By the desert as to not disrupt the locals. But they do anyway. We parents dread it 😮💨
@@rivb2314 Electric Daisy Carnival. I have not heard of that before. Thank you for your answer and this info.
@@bluecollarlit In the beginning of the show someone said, "They entered a room like a tornado" In almost every episode of 48 Hours or Dateline, the most common factor between victims, "they lit up the room" It means they made themselves a TARGET. Don't be a target. Don't crave attention, it's not always good attention. Sometimes it's bad attention.
The smirk and smile after saying, “I’m innocent” is super believable.
Hilda is not his real daughter. Her real dad is white.
@@reggaefan2700 what are you even talking about?
@@beastiekat4562 I think he meant to comment that on another post.
Yep u can tell he’s guilty 😡
I thought the same thing. "Duping delight" indeed.
Asking the mother whether she believes the daughter had been raped is so pointless and just tasteless
She was not raped. It is relevant. What’s wrong with you? The mom lied too. No evidence of rape. The dude probably was a rapist but you are a person that convicts people on hunches.
@@acidmardigras6235 You just made a very generalizing statement about my character based on a single sentence I posted as a comment. Now who is convicting people on hunches, hm?
@@acidmardigras6235 I'm at 21:55 and I had to pause the video and scroll down to read the comments, coz I got too overwhelmed, as a woman myself. My *immediate* assumption, when I see too drugged up women, following three big burly guys, back to one car, is that they are going to be gang raped! Is it wrong to assume, yes. Is my assumption justified 99% of the time.. yes, once again.
@@acidmardigras6235The OP didn’t even say they were raped. She said that asking the mother if she thought they were raped was pointless and in poor taste. Reading comprehension is everything.
I agree it was tasteless of the interviewer to ask the mother of the victim,
My deepest sympathies to the broken hearted families. Thank you for sharing their stories that may help another, even amid your pain it’s so generous and kind.
I live in LA and remember this all over the news. Later on I saw the ugly face of Osborn and realized I met him a few times on different sets. I also share 3 mutual friends with him on FB. There are so many predictors like Pierce in LA that I decided not to go to the clubs ever. Don’t take any drinks from anybody, don’t leave your drinks and go use the bathroom, etc. be as careful as possible. My heart breaks for these girls. Both smart and stunning. May they RIP.
Yeah and don't snort lines at the club then agree to do more at a complete strangers house.
@@joshuaclayton6907 And maybe those men shouldn't be giving date rape drugs & Fentanyl!!! They would still be alive had these men not done this!!
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Yeah, not the most innocent victims.
We shouldn’t judge but show compassion.
They were vivacious young women in their 20’s, many, many have done similar things, trusting people they had just met at a party, club, etc, but these young women definitely had very bad luck as a result of it. 😢
Really appreciate CBS 48 Hours for at long last releasing full videos of this great show that I’ve enjoyed since day one. Please keep them coming.😊🙏🏻
Exactly. Me too.
Same here ❤ ❤😊
Same 😊
Amen
Me too, because I live in Germany and cannot watch US TV. So I am very thankful and happy for long episodes 😃👍📺💗🌸🌷
Someone apparently told David 'Paramount' Pierce that chicks really dig the 'pouty' look and he totally took it to heart...
Pouty look on a guy just seems feminine
Feminine, or somewhat comical, like he's trying too hard to strike a "sexy" pose,@@mary7256.
I can’t. I just can’t with the pout. 😂 so much second hand embarrassment.
That face he's making is awful!
A fate worse than death itself,to outlive one's own beloved child. My heart goes out to these two beautiful young girls mother's because I know their pain truly. It truly IS worse than death.
Donna, I’m so sorry for your loss. 😢
I lost my mom 5 years ago. I wouldn’t wish this pain on the worst enemy. Losing a loved one is equally horrible, regardless if it’s the loss of your child or your parent. I would trade places with my mom if I could.
What about the fathers? They are grieving too.
It’s unnatural to lose your child
@@LostHope84 I cannot speak on how a father feels. I am not one. I can only speak on what a mother feels because that's what I am. It's no afront. In fact quite the opposite. I think it would be more of an afront if I did try to say that I know what a man feels like when he loses his child because that's absurd. Of course I do not.
I grew up in this area, around men in the entertainment field, and this predator may have lied about being a producer, but there are even real producers who were/are predators.
I was always on guard around these men. I know how they throw their power, real or imagined, around.
I have been to parties where it took guy friends to get my friends and I out safely. One time, a group of my friends and I were at a party and the guys weren’t letting us leave. It took us getting a couple of good guys to get us out.
Be careful who you party with, especially now, with Fentanyl laced drugs. Is that one night of fun really worth your life?
It's not even fun because it's fake, just like the entertainment field and the vibes of LA in general. Don't buy into the glamor hype. Take a trip down Skid Row to see the LA that lies beneath the surface.
But they just think its fun being free spirited
Stay safe
Coke always seems such a horrible, seedy drug to me. Especially women doing it.
@@junemarshall-kingsley566 skid row? U do not need to go that far. Go on the Hollywood boulevard of fame. I would call it a shame. Or next to any 7/11, or ANYWHERE in USA
My father was a double transplant recipient. When I heard that Hilda's organs were given to others, I was so sad for her family, and so overjoyed for the families whose loved ones will live more years due to this one family's generosity. When they said she died one day before her 27th birthday, my immediate thought was, "No, not really. Elsewhere, families are celebrating her birthday while they celebrate the renewed lives, hopes, and dreams of the ones she saved." Thank you, Cabrales family. You'll never know the lives Hilda has saved by your generosity. I hope you know that the ripple effect of her death now includes so much good in the world because of your actions. Thank you for helping others in your grief.
as a 27-year-old also living in LA, and being relatively new to LA, this case always cut deep for me. I think about this case a lot from time to time. It is so easy for our generation to meet people out in these environments, who seem like nice, fun people. It’s so easy for them to offer you a bump of some thing, and if you feel like you’ve hit it off with them even in the slightest, you feel like you can trust them. all it takes is one wrong bump from someone you thought you could “trust”, and your life can be over.
Stay aware and never leave your drink alone, stay safe out there❤
LA is a nasty dangerous place full of bs, it’s not our generation it’s where you live
Yes, it's so easy to end up doing coke at 3am in an apartment with three strange men whom you just met at a club.. This happens to responsible people ALL THE TIME!
@@anonymousdinosaur1300 yes… it does happen… quite more than you think. i never said it was responsible.
@@iamtylerwells You claimed it was easy for anyone to end up in that situation, when in reality it's not and 99% of the population would never put themselves or their own wife in such a situation.
When I think of Los Angeles, I NEVER think of the glimmer and glamour. I ALWAYS think of the crime, trash, gangs, and heavy traffic. It's why I moved from there right after the Rodney King riots. Total cesspool.
Exactly!
I don't blame you. I used to want to move to LA when I was young and about to graduate highschool. I was going to move after I graduated, but thankfully I ended up dating a girl that kept me in Connecticut. Then I grew up a bit and realized LA was just not the place to be.
Sin City
@@swayslay2070 yeah everyone makes bad decisions in their 20’s and some people pay the ultimate price for them - has to be harder on the parents knowing that their kids’ own choices led down that road.
Yes it’s heartbreaking
In my youth I made stupid decisions just like this. It’s the luck of the draw this didn’t happen to me. Blessings to all who loved them 😭
Same. One stupid decision after another, yet I live to tell the tale.
@@dianak726 same, never noticed until later on how amazingly lucky I am.
@@itsjustmeme8161 Lucky indeed. Back in HS my friend and I would just hop into cars with guys we didn’t know. All kinds of nonsense.
I was thinking the very same thing about myself 😢
it's not luck, you were blessed. thank God often.
I live in South Korea and when I heard she'd lived here I searched Hilda's name in an expat women's group on FB that I'm in and saw that she was a member. The expat community here is so small and tight-knit, it hits home a bit more. Small world. RIP to both of them
And ?
@@smellycat264 she's in SK and she's an expat and she has Facebook, is that not interesting enough?
@@futuremelina Why would it be?
@@razmatazz9310 I'm being sarcastic 😅
@@smellycat264 y’all need to troll better
The pouty face… I can NOT. I’ll be mocking him for ever because omg. Nooo
I know ,I was nauseated, it's wrong on so many levels
I kept thinking, "What's up with the Zoolander face?"
I know...fake Elvis looks more like slick used car salesman from the 80s
@@morethislessthat8396 Ah...so Blue Steel trying to be a Magnum. Honestly, who poses like this?
@@lisawentworth6831 🤣 Seriously....I've never seen a grown man do that.
NEVER LEAVE A BAR WITH STRANGERS. Not everyone are honest good people. Prayers for Justice ‼️
Exactly
I have not been in a bar for Over 35 years
Feminist pitfall
Keep the full episode coming 48 hours!!!!
They do! Don't worry 😊
@@Denise_Suzanne yessss🎉🎉🎉
*episodes
Ja 😊💗
I think I’m addicted already! 😩🤣🎉
I’ve been binge watching 48 Hours for days but this one hits different. This is hitting home.
This is tragic. As a woman I don’t EVER take anything from strange men and never go to their place. We have to be aware that there are bad people out there. Personal responsibility is key in situations like this.
Yes- not said enough. Getting drugs from someone you don’t know led to this whole situation. They willingly took what they thought was coke, then things went wrong. Personal responsibility and knowledge of the reality of the world we live in just can’t be removed from this equation. You can’t expect predators to do what is best for you, you have to do what is best for you.
@@soniawright9279 Exactly, you can’t except a predator to do what’s best for you. Well said. I hope this tragedy serves as a cautionary tale to other young women.
Preach sister
Their guards were off, they were too trusting I suspect. I’ve done similar stupid things in my past for being too trusting, naive and stupid, taken drugs from newly met “friends” in the club. I’m petrified that I could have died so many times. I believe that angels were watching over me, there is no way I was so lucky for no reason. I took ecstasy, MDMA and tranquilizers. The very last time I took supposedly ecstasy was something else , it barely felt any high however the side effects were incredibly severe. I’m sure it was some identifiable mixture in that pill.
I was moaning from pain and sickness, all organs in my body were aching, I literally was just laying in bed and moaning after that night out.
I haven’t took drugs since.
@@soniawright9279 that's the truth. These predators hunt everyday looking for new victims
Nobody should go to a strangers apartment in the midnight hours to do drugs. That is when the demons are out.
It just occurred to me, she had 4 months in LA after all those exciting years. She would have been safer lived longer at her father's in MEXICO where crime is rampant.
That’s normal la and Miami life sadly
Not women nor even men
100% true!
Heartbreaking 😢. This tragic story should be required viewing at high schools snd colleges.
Agree 💯
Yes!!
Better start in middle school. Drugs are already prevalent in middle school.
100%. Some good could hopefully come from it.
No shaming but the girls talking about drugs makes you realize how little their families actually knew them.
Yeah! They were somewhat
… careless!!
@@fleridalopez4384
Most people are careless in their teens and twenties. I know that I was. It is by the grace of God that I'm still alive.
That might have been first time trying, we don't know that. One mistake doesn't define who a person is. What skeletons do you have in your closet?
@@camilletaylor8660 I didn't say it defined them. Just stating that parents always think they child never would do this or that.
Beyond careless. More like RECKLESS. This is not about taking drugs... This is about TAKING DRUGS FROM A STRANGER. With all of the news stories out there about women being slipped drugs that incapacitate them, why in the world would ANY woman put herself in that position?!
The producers, crew and cast of 48 Hours have amazing talent and ability to tell what happened. Each and every episode reveals the people who are hurt and the loss to humanity.
I'm still weeping.
Maybe, in a very small way, the friends and family of these beautiful woman can take heart that Christy and Hilda are not forgotten.
Well done 48 Hours.❤
This same guy was busted by police in another video on my channel.. repeat offender🤬🤬
They put too much energy into these 48 hours shows and waste film on BS.
Appreciation from the UK here! Thank you for giving those who cannot speak a voice, and letting their names be heard.
Uploading these episodes is the smartest thing the network has ever done. They know a lot of us will watch them more than once, comment on the videos, subscribe, and this means they can get loads of advertising money off young people who don’t have cable. Just pure genius.
if you cant beat them join them. makes total sense. although its hard to trust your opinion when your name is Derpy McDerpenstein (8
Dude it’s not “genius” - it’s 2023 and they’re just now posting episodes on UA-cam - they’re like 5-7yrs behind the curve and just now catching up lol
Agree! 60 Minutes Australia should be taking notes: still can’t comment there come on now 🙄
That was exactly what I thought when I saw the amount of views these videos get. I'm surprised every network doesn't do it. It's easy extra money for them.
@@WideAwakeHuman I don't know of many networks that upload full episodes of their shows. Definitely not "behind the curve".
Lived in La for a year and couldn’t take it. The way people treated each other was horrible. The way MEN treated women was even worst. They weren’t beating them up but always looking drug or “score” at a party. Glad I’ve left it.
Got into so many arguments and fights with dudes out there.
Spring cleaning the garage … in autumn … with wind howling outside and rain falling … it’s a Saturday and I’m listening to your channel as I work. It’s one of my favourite things to do 🇿🇦
What a cozy picture you in my head ❤
I wish you a happy day 😃
Where are you located? How fun !
I’d guess Australia
I do the same thing, listen to these shows while I clean.
My heart goes out to the parents and the husband… this is very heartbreaking. May they receive full justice.
I think things worked out for the husband. She clearly was a woman with problems and was going to hurt him someday. She probably already cheated on him many times
@@peters8181 he's the smart one for marrying a 21 year old and thinking it was going to stop her from partying
@@peters8181 Right, she was hoeing out hard acting single while married. Guy had no back bone and no ability to establish boundaries. May it be a lesson to both men and women.
Does your heart go out to the tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi women and children that you murdered.
@@thomasjensen6243 wtf you talking about
Don't do drugs folks and watch your drinks when you're out.
Dear Women,
Remember and spread the message of the Whisper Movement. Tell all the girls and women you know.
Whenever a man interacts with you anywhere; school, college, work etc. Always tell your friends every thing about him. Especially if he is a man in a position of power. If he's bad tell them he's bad and what he did. And tell them to spread the word to other women and so on. A man's bad deeds must be known to every woman in that organization. Save any messages that he may send you. Take screenshots. Forward them to women. Quietly share all his dirty deeds and secrets with all the women. Do not let him take the advantage of your silence. Build a network and warn women. Women must know who to stay away from.
Spread the word. Do not keep quiet. It's because of silence that men like these get away with so much. So many women had suffered before these two girls but it was unknown to other women. Get together and destroy these filthy incels and ra.pists.
Period.
Also, don’t go to strangers’ homes and then do drugs.
Sounds like they were relatively good at watching things up until 5:30am. Not sure how long GHB takes, but they could have already been given one for the road right before that. The trial will be interesting to hear more.
AMEN ❤❤❤❤
These two young women were enjoying life so much, they didn't think of the dangers that are out there. Sadly, that's what young people in America think, have fun, good times and me too, when I was young. I pray young people will see this and be more attentive to their surroundings and make better choices. When we're young, we think we are invincible but we sure are not!
There are predators everywhere.
This is heartbreaking.. I'm SO happy the family decide to give the gift of life & joy to many others. Their daughter will literally live on in others.
Not really. "Brain death" doesn't mean death as most people understand it. People are fullly alive when their organs are taken and it has to happen fast. If someone is really dead the organs are useless. The concept of "brain death" was specifically introduced to increase donations. It's also a lucrative business... Most people are misinformed about this.
It is a sin and nothing to be happy about. Not a religious one but a sin against nature.
There should be a feature on Uber that you can select where if you don't show up they'll call the cops.
The mother of Hilda said it well, it was a sad tragedy but this helped stop that horrible man’s madness. 😢 my heart goes out to those families.
No offense but living in Las Angeles would be a nightmare for me. I hated it. The people are creepy. And I hear it's even worse today.
This message is for young girls and ladies in general don't ever go out to bars and nightclubs with stangers you just met online or anywhere be street smart and make sure even if you go out and want have a pleasant time be in the company of your close friends the ones you can trust and rely on. Moreover, don't do drugs if you drink alcohol be casual drinker my sincere condolences and sympathies to their loved ones. May you forever rest in peace
Don’t try to control women like that. It’s absolutely fine as woman to go out alone as long as you watch your drink like a hawk, don’t take anything (drinks, drugs) from anyone, don’t leave with anyone, and wait in a well-lit public place for your Uber (or park in a well-lit public place if you’re not drinking and are driving yourself). I am a woman and I have done this plenty of times. Women deserve to have lives. Don’t try to take that away from us.
@@Pinktulips9824 What? What did I say about drugs (other than “don’t take drugs from strangers,” which is a rule I’m pretty sure most people would agree with)? I’m saying women should be able to go out at night alone-not sure what that has to do with drugs.
Yeah. Stangers are reall6 dangerous.
Love the full episodes !!
Moral of the story....don't do drugs and leave yourself vulnerable to predators!
Dont do drugs and NEVER leave with strangers EVER.
that is a such a world . without school your own knowledge.skills ,moral.and legally jobs and ways ...only criminal .
well said and mix with friends who are good for you
Very true...also they should have left for home instead of moving from one point to another.....
Victim shaming? Really? Omg, y'all are unbelievable!!! So people can't have fun anymore because there might be a predator around? One of those men should have been incarcerated for previous sex crimes!!! But because society, like y'all blame the victim, he wasn't. It's not like they knew what was going to happen or I'm sure they wouldn't have gone. And they went out dancing with friends, so not alone. And they wanted to leave but weren't allowed to. Poor girls 😢
She would never do drugs... Do you want coke YES 😂😂😂
Feel sorry for the husband. He doesn't want to let himself believe some things, I think. Yes, his wife was ultimately there against her will. But she clearly went there willingly. To some dudes house. That isn't an innocent night out with the girls. Not when you leave the club to some dude and his friends house.
Thank you.
Agreed. I was thinking the same thing.
@@Willyoart maybe she Was only being a company for the friend. It happens. When your friend will be with someone
@@danielegarotti7884 if your friend has enough power to motivate you to go to a random strangers house while you’re married, you need better friends.
Or maybe the men had already slipped something in their drinks at the party and that’s why they first went willingly to his house… it happens all the time… “date rape drug”
I cannot even fathom how a "human being" can not "feel" anything, and hurt anyone like this. I mean, they all have families, siblings. Are they dead inside?😢
Dear Women,
Remember and spread the message of the Whisper Movement. Tell all the girls and women you know.
Whenever a man interacts with you anywhere; school, college, work etc. Always tell your friends every thing about him. Especially if he is a man in a position of power. If he's bad tell them he's bad and what he did. And tell them to spread the word to other women and so on. A man's bad deeds must be known to every woman in that organization. Save any messages that he may send you. Take screenshots. Forward them to women. Quietly share all his dirty deeds and secrets with all the women. Do not let him take the advantage of your silence. Build a network and warn women. Women must know who to stay away from.
Spread the word. Do not keep quiet. It's because of silence that men like these get away with so much. So many women had suffered before these two girls but it was unknown to other women. Get together and destroy these filthy incels and ra.pists.
They must be demons
Psychopaths don’t care.
Demons 😈
Sociopaths/psychopaths have no ability to empathize
Smh drinking and doing drugs with people you just met then proceed to head back to their apartment? Nothing good ever happens after midnight.
Because they were already high.
I’m assuming you didn’t go to college or know anyone who has. It’s called an “after party” and 9/10 of college kids have been to one. But okay keep blaming the victims for what happened
@@Dreabz617 in this case, not a “normal” afterparty. These men know the ladies were already high in coke and that the latter would probably just go with them without thinking properly. Their judgements were clouded -in normal circumstances people would have detected their invite as a red flag, especially Christy who was married and would probably not go with guys she did not know during such late hours.
@@Dreabz617 Yeah, I went to college but didn't do drugs at parties. And yeah, I'm alive now. 😊
A bar in LA is like a watering hole in the jungle. Some animals go there for water, and others go there for a meal.
Wow. So true
two girls get in a car with three men they just met... what could possibly go wrong?
Umm, I am sorry but what did two young women out of which one married doing with some unknown men in an unknown location?
Unfortunately mostly men in the comment section are asking this very important and relevant question.
Bustin it open.
“You are a doctor. What's going on inside your mind at that moment?” what sort of question? She was obviously a mother first in that moment.
Dear Women,
Remember and spread the message of the Whisper Movement. Tell all the girls and women you know.
Whenever a man interacts with you anywhere; school, college, work etc. Always tell your friends every thing about him. Especially if he is a man in a position of power. If he's bad tell them he's bad and what he did. And tell them to spread the word to other women and so on. A man's bad deeds must be known to every woman in that organization. Save any messages that he may send you. Take screenshots. Forward them to women. Quietly share all his dirty deeds and secrets with all the women. Do not let him take the advantage of your silence. Build a network and warn women. Women must know who to stay away from.
Spread the word. Do not keep quiet. It's because of silence that men like these get away with so much. So many women had suffered before these two girls but it was unknown to other women. Get together and destroy these filthy incels and ra.pists.
He spoke to her first as a mother and then as a doctor. I see nothing wrong with the question.
Hildas father made me bawl 😭 Then to be so brave and strong and generous to donate her organs to give other life. What a beautiful pure family and what a terribly sad story for two young girls with their whole lives ahead of them. 😥
My sincere condolences to both families of the victims. I'm very sorry for your losses. Bless you, each and every one of you. May Justice prevail!
Why would a married wife hang out with bunch of guys at their condo after the club around 2:00am 😮
Yeah exactly.She was cheating
Exactly my thoughts...
Imagine being the husband! no wonder he isn't too emotional, amd I can understand..his wife just went to randos for drugs!
GHB was found in her bloods. Thats date drug. They were drugged.
I’m not too quick on saying that she was cheating. However, she was 24 at the time of her passing.
24 year olds do consume substances and party. So it could just be she went for fun.
She partied with guys and gals because she lived 'out of the box', she was 'free spirited and danger was not part of her vocabulary'. = careless, risky behavior.
OMG…..I literally cried when they said Marcela died and donated her organs.
It’s claimed they would never take these drugs. Why would they attend one of these warehouse parties and mix with people who are using A LOT of drugs?
I been to these parties but I never took drugs or left with strangers and also I never went alone with females only my best guy friends were our body guards 😂
@@elizabethp4064 You had better stop going there. You never take drugs but others do. You seem to be reasoning like a driver who believes that, because he is a good and careful driver, he'll never suffer an accident.
@@3BK235Yshe’s allowed to go to parties the same as men are, and everyone - male and female - should be careful at such events.
My dad always told me that if you are in a club and you need to use the bathroom, either take the drink with u or throw it out, don't drink from it if you leave it alone. Imagine going home with someone u just met 😢
Great advice
I always told my kids, "Nothing good happens after midnight."
The devil never sleeps @rt66vintange people that wants to hurt other don't have an expesific hour....
As a father to a 20 year old daughter, i always tell her not to ever put herself in this situation. I tell her to always be aware of her surroundings and if she has to drink that never accept any drink from anyone even from a friend and never do drugs.
Dear Women,
Remember and spread the message of the Whisper Movement. Tell all the girls and women you know.
Whenever a man interacts with you anywhere; school, college, work etc. Always tell your friends every thing about him. Especially if he is a man in a position of power. If he's bad tell them he's bad and what he did. And tell them to spread the word to other women and so on. A man's bad deeds must be known to every woman in that organization. Save any messages that he may send you. Take screenshots. Forward them to women. Quietly share all his dirty deeds and secrets with all the women. Do not let him take the advantage of your silence. Build a network and warn women. Women must know who to stay away from.
Spread the word. Do not keep quiet. It's because of silence that men like these get away with so much. So many women had suffered before these two girls but it was unknown to other women. Get together and destroy these filthy incels and ra.pists.
"has to drink" = You obviously don't know the damaging effects drinking alcohol has on the body and brain
@JANUARY. I'm sure he does know. However, you can not stop your grown children from making their own choices. All you can do is to talk to them about the consequences of those choices. And warn them of the dangerous people out there waiting to prey upon someone who is vulnerable.
We have to be really insistent with this when talking to our children. Teenagers and young people take bad decisions and with that I include myself when young. There are predators and evil people everywhere waiting for a vulnerable prey.
Most parents tell their kids that . Most kids ignore their parents and survive. These poor women did not deserve this no matter if they used drugs recreationally.
I'm not victim blaming but people have to make better decisions. It's one thing if you're just minding your business and harm comes to you, but don't make decisions that put you in danger like this. Don't do drugs, dont do drugs with strangers, if you're going somewhere, esp a shady place let others know where you are and who you're with.
Even better, don't go to the apartment of a man you just met, with two other men, even if you have a friend with you.
Absolutely. All these other comments make me nauseous. Snorting lines with 3 complete strangers then agreeing to go back to their houses definitely wasn't the smartest choice they could have made
Its ok to victim blame. Cuz these two were not the saints they were painted out to be.
@taylor faoa Would it be ok if it was someone in your family? Nobody deserves what happened to those girls, and nobody us perfect.
Exactly! I’ve been young and love to party but my thing was to go home. Not with some shady guys to some after party. Many girls did such things for free drugs and some career promises… it’s just not right right. Many girls get raped and won’t say anything and then there’s heartbreaking things like this. You can tell in the party photo that one of the girls is already high and how close that guy was on her and his face expression.
Burning man and such places are not exactly for the people who don’t use drugs so these 2 girls were already in it. But should buy their own drugs if they needed any and stay away from VIP people.
Stupid to think that enjoying yourself requires drug use.
Moral of the story- Don't do drugs folks and don't go to strange places where weirdos hang out.
They wanted freee drugs cocaine can get expensive
Moral of the story- call an ambulance if you see people in a state of overdose. Don't judge them. Save their lives.
Moral- NEVER get n a Prius.🤮
@@lauraf2101 No.
Not realistic! That’s like teaching abstinence from sex, people will continue to have sex and do drugs, just do it responsibly if possible and trust your gut.
So being in the VIP section automatically makes you a good person? In what world do these people live?
In a world of appearances and fantasies, false concepts and false beliefs, in a world where what counts is "the glitter and the glamour."
when a female hangs out at a party with strangers, pose for pictures with them, allow them to buy you drinks, take drugs with them, then leave with 3 males to their apartment; you are putting yourselves in grave danger. Three strange males with two pretty drugged up females in their apartment is destined to end badly. Really sad
Exactly I don’t want to say it but I will ppl gloss over the fact these girls wanted to get high. And being married and going with strange men and using drugs it’s crazy to me never . I just don’t understand how grown women do these type of things
She was married and went with stranger males to their home ?!
Exactly what I thought. One of the girls was already married. Both women were apparently conscious when they went to their apartment when they called for an Uber. I hope the guys get harsh punishment but these girls could easily avoid the whole situation.
@@deegold3791 same thought. She's still effing around.
@@Tangga1boy01 Someone in another thread said the married one and the husband were on the outs ... and that's why he was in San Francisco because they weren't really together anymore ; but I don't know if that's true .
I haven't looked into it . I really hope some women out there will pay heed to this horribly tragic cautionary story .
Those pictures, is he pouting 😂😂 RUN.
I couldn’t help but cry when the dad teared up. So heartbreaking. I lost my brother almost 7 years ago and the pain never goes away
I lost my brother 9 yrs ago. I know your pain I'm so sorry for your loss ❤🙏🏾
lost mine a year and a half ago. you’re right it never does :( it hurts more every day
Hilda is not his real daughter. Her real dad is white.
@@reggaefan2700 don't worry. About a thing. Cuz every little thing. It's gonna be alright.
I'm sorry 🙏 for your lost
Really moving when the hospital staff clapped when she was being wheeled down the hall for her organ donation. These families are amazing and organ donation is a great gift that at least makes this life snuffed too soon not have been in vain.
The clapping is unnecessary. Unfortunately, knowing a person is an organ donor or after having aggressively convinced a grieving family to sign off on organs, hospital staff will cease all attempts to revive and may even give you the paralyzing shot that gets your body ready to cut open to get at those organs. There is a ton of money in organ donation.
who wants those organs with drugs all in the system
Really? This is moving to u? For me it is horrifying - dismantling a human like a robot for spare parts
moving? I found that deeply unsettlling
@@bambinaforever1402 Is this what you would say if it could save your child? She's already gone, at least someone else could live.
I found the clapping distasteful nonetheless.
This is an eye opener to all women don't drink or take drugs with the people u just met,and always bring an extra friend that will look after u if u go for parrying, condolence to the bereaved family 🙏
Don't drink or do drugs EVER.
Don't party and do drugs. Period.
Don't go to a stranger's house you just met that night at the club. Because they likely didn't do most of those drugs willingly
yes. well said. take precautions.
another eye opener is not to drug or rape someone
That is a trio of greasiness. One of them 57, one 42.....they're probably fathers themselves. Unconscionable and unforgivable.
Here's an idea - don't go to a rave or a club to dance with strangers and do drugs and then go home with men you don't know to do more drugs, especially if you are married.
Such a great idea. Some people really do think they’re invincible and that their life is worth the risk. Very sad.
What a sad story ,two amazing young ladies killed for no reason. My sincere condolences to both families and may they get Justice for the girls.
specially young women should never go with anyone they dont know nor take any drugs from them or drinks. its very sad.
Getting into a vehicle with 2 strange men at 5 am after doing ‘their’ drugs. Especially in LA!!
Amazing? They were users and the other one is married and she's out with random men. She's getting her cheeks clapped by others with her wedding ring on.
@DroneStrike1776 exactly what I thouggt...this Chick is married and going home with other men
@@jamigoddess It's insanely dangerous and shows they didn't really value their personal safety at all - super self destructive and sad.
I went to middle school with Christy in Alabama, terrible to hear something like this to someone you knew as kids
@@MemeTechTales unfortunately I’m not going to lie, she’s was very wealthy and beautiful and popular. But she knew it and wasn’t very let’s say “kind” but that was a long time ago and she has probably grown very much. That’s how most of her current friends have described her so I believe it.
@@loganaldridge8816 Given her manner of death I'd say she didn't change much.
I’ve heard this story before, but never knew they were in the apartment for so long after that night out until they could drop them at the hospital the next night. That’s so sad.
Didn't understand partying and drinking in college in the '60s and still don't.. Staying at home with a good book and in bed by 9 for my health has paid off in untold ways. Never see a doctor, on NO meds and still love gardening. Yes, your past will catch up with you. Be prepared!!
I'm confused as to how any woman could go with men they met at a party, men they weren't dating and trust them to not have nefarious intentions? Men leaving with men, yes, women leaving with women, yes, but women leaving with men they just met? NO. This is not a judgement on these women, I'm nearly seventy years old and just so very confused that people put their trust in stranger's with nothing more to go on than a smile and an assumption.
Even if it is "a judgement on these women" it's perfectly ok. It's ridiculous that so many people whine about "vicim blaming" when the FACT of the matter is IF these two "intelligent, bright, witty, educated" women used their heads and made better decisions, THEY'D STILL BE HERE.
@@CrimeisCommon_MerrieKiller Yes, I'm afraid "common sense" has gone the way of that darn Dodo bird. Extinct.
That's what drugs do to you.
I pray the Ladies get the justice they deserve 🙏🙏🙏
A rare case on 48 hrs where the murderer is not the husband
That's what I was thinking too
Or wife
This is the best true crime show out there, but I'm really sick of men taking advantage of women and children....then ending their lives. They both had so much going for them, living their best lives and it's just unreal. 😢 My condolences to both families 🙏🙏
Ur sick of men taking advantage of women and children?
Women and children are safer in this day and age than they’ve literally ever been in any other time in human history. And there are plenty of women that help men kidnap and assault other women and plenty of women that take advantage of their kids. It’s an human problem, not just a male problem and framing it like that isn’t useful at all.
Sadly it’s going to be like that as long as humankind exists, there will always be evil people 😔
@@udontevenwannaknowbruv you mean M. Let’s stop phrasing this as if it’s a gender neutral issue. W don’t prey on M anywhere near as much as M prey on W.
Sick of men really??? Did they force themselves on d girls? They met these men at d vip spot, they figured they had money n probably drugs, they danced and laughed with them n then they ended up following guys they just met at a party home. That says a lot about their personalities. Y’all should stop blaming the men. The question should be what is a supposed married lady doing at a party after midnight. U can’t live a crazy lifestyle and not expect consequences. This is d result of their own actions. Not d men.
@@farbulosity troll better, ‘cel
Oh the heart of that father and those parents
Dear Women,
Remember and spread the message of the Whisper Movement. Tell all the girls and women you know.
Whenever a man interacts with you anywhere; school, college, work etc. Always tell your friends every thing about him. Especially if he is a man in a position of power. If he's bad tell them he's bad and what he did. And tell them to spread the word to other women and so on. A man's bad deeds must be known to every woman in that organization. Save any messages that he may send you. Take screenshots. Forward them to women. Quietly share all his dirty deeds and secrets with all the women. Do not let him take the advantage of your silence. Build a network and warn women. Women must know who to stay away from.
Spread the word. Do not keep quiet. It's because of silence that men like these get away with so much. So many women had suffered before these two girls but it was unknown to other women. Get together and destroy these filthy incels and ra.pists.
I feel so bad for those women, they must have been so scared when they were drugged and then not allowed to leave! That text message with the emoji says a lot! Either they started picking up bad vibes or the drugs were kicking in..They knew they needed to leave!! "Let’s Go 😳"
Point is if you never go there, then escape is never necessary and your death is less imminent!!!
@@sharpedge3355 True, but when you are young you make mistakes.
@@sharpedge3355 I’ve been to so many after parties I couldn’t even tell you the #. It’s an extremely common thing. What happened wasn’t their fault
@@Dreabz617 truth is both at fault making event happen no in between not shocking same story seen dozens times over the years just saying all gonna be there one day just saying
@@evoluna3056 Young?! One of them was 27 years old! Their parents thought they were sweet innocent angels.. They were stupid and used drugs.
Nothing good happens after 10pm..that's what I have always told my kids.
I was always told 2am, but I guess it depends on your age.
"The only things open after midnight are legs and the ER" - Todd Chrisley
Think again, you might have conceived them after 10pm. LOL
There was an old saying in my country that evil spirits start to roam after midnight, and they will harm people stay outside. Symbolically, what it means is that after night falls, nothing good take place. Shady activities like crimes, drugs, prostitution and bad human behaviors come in to surface with the night fall.
Alot of people in LA don't even go out to eat at that time. My town shuts down at 6pm. But I also realize not to judge other people
Hearing the story about the medical staff clapping to honor Hilda's donation of her organs as she was wheeled to surgery just took me over the top in tears. Such a tragic loss of life with these two dear girls.
Thank Goodness others will have the chance of life with Hilda's organs.
It’s called The Walk of Honor. It’s unbelievably moving to witness. Her final act will save many others. It is about the most honorable thing I can think of.
@@DogsnCakeHooraynot reallly. It's brutal as the person is not dead in the traditional sense.
Stay away from places like that!!!. Drinking..... Drugs...... Partying....
Don’t party with people you don’t know. Don’t take other people’s drugs.
All drugs are other people’s drugs. So. Don’t take drugs.
dont take drugs at all.
Even more important, don't "light up a room like a tornado" you make yourself a target.
exactly. just heartbreaking. the 3 men look so creepy and dodgy. if i saw them, i'd run a mile in the opposite direction
If you're in the realm of drugs, everyone you know is seedy. You can't trust an addict.
1) Being beautiful or not is irrelevant.
2) Don't use euphemisms. Say they liked to use drugs.
3) They were in a dance club in the U.S. = It's common knowledge that most people there are under the influence and/or selling drugs.
Too much money and not enough street smarts
Facts
Your third point is ridiculous hyperbole.
@@razmatazz9310 You're ridiculously naive.
FACTS!!! I hate it when the media or 3v3n people say, she was so beautiful what a tragedy. It DOES NOT MATTER if you were model gorgeous or ordinary, and in this video they literally showed a clip off the news a "model and her friend". Like let Hilda be her own person too.
“People who pretend to be something they’re not”- isn’t that every single celebrity in LA? Or anywhere for that matter
Wow, nailed it.
Gosh Hilda looked so much like her mom. Such a terribly sad story for both families.
Love how they make a simple case into a jigsaw puzzle....
I screamed “yes!!!” out loud when they said that monster was being charged with their murders. Prayers for the families, and that justice is served….😢🙏
@@MemeTechTales I don’t think you’re responding to me. But, if you are, I have no idea what you’re talking about with the “your country” part. Could you explain, please, if you are intending to respond to my message?
He was found not guilty and released. Wow
@@erinkarendaring7021He wasn't found not guilty. He was charged, and his trial is yet to be scheduled.
Parents: "My daughter would never do drugs"
Daughter(s): "Wanna do coke?" "Yeah!"
*lolwut*
Prettiest common for parents to be blindsided by their kid’s private life.
Think they were referring to GHB & fentanyl