Imagine your child is 17, about to be an adult, their whole life ahead of them.. and some creep rips them away from you for a moment of deviant satisfaction. That mother has been living without her baby since 2009 :( adjusting to that reality must be hell
yess i know :(( and the fact that the mom calls ashley her rock, as in she helps her with everything, is so terrible, because she was ripped away from her so fast.
My uncle just lost my cousin, it was to suicide though and he said it's very hard to adjust to life without her. It's like, you expect the person to walk through the door or come into the room and they don't. Every time I'm at their house I just look at her door expecting her to come out and make her silly jokes. My uncle is looking for a new house now because he just can't live in the house anymore
i can’t even believe he served HALF OF A SEVEN YEAR SENTENCE for RAPING, ASSAULTING, and THREATENING TO MURDER two women. eleanor was right, i am infuriated.
If he was who he said he was, he would've gone to meet her himself. What 17 year old boy would send their dad to pick up a girl and be sitting at home?
The fact that this was the first boy who had made a move on her that she was attracted to as well makes me so much more sad about this. She spend the whole day getting ready probably thinking she would get her first kiss. 😭
It sucks because I've been in that situation. I was never popular in school and the boys didn't like me so I got attention from guys online. They were like 28 and I was 13, at first I just wanted to make friends my age online but then older guys started being interested in me and I took it as a compliment. I thought I was cooler because all these guys liked me but they just wanted someone vulnerable.
Dumb Lil Red i’m so sorry you went through that. i hope you’re doing well, you deserve to be loved for who you are, rather than exploited for your vulnerability.
As a 16 year old girl who also rarely gets noticed, I feel so terrible about what happened to her because I know if it was me I would've agreed to go too. I'd be so happy. I can't imagine how happy and excited she was to finally have someone notice her and want to be with her. As much as she may notice signs I'm sure she just couldn't wait to meet him. Only for it to be a lie and to lose your life. For just wanting to be a normal teen girl. This case also made me realize why my mom bugs me so much when I'm out at night. What a sad story. Rip Ashleigh. ❤❤❤
if the police would've looked further into pete, given him the correct punishments, and kept him on their radar, ashley would probably still be here today. the police completely slacked off their jobs, this man was evidently dangerous, and they just let him continue. its just so unfortunate that an innocent girl had to be the turning point of his conviction, even while so many others suffered before ashleys death.
Aldo Steel regardless of saying “not being horrible” you were. nobody said he was mr. perfect bc he obviously wasn’t, and why would she try and give a chance to someone that she isn’t attracted to. let the girl rest.
Aldo Steel Shes dead, and no matter how much you try to say you’re not being horrible, you are. Let the poor girl rest in peace, it’s so creepy when people try and almost justify the death because she “shouldn’t of met him”
This one hits hard, at 17 I remember meeting someone I was talking to online, I got on a train for 3 hours to see him, without telling my family where I was going. I was lucky this was legit, and we stayed together a few months but I remember clearly the excitement of being wanted and feeling loved at that age. The poor girl :(
I did the exact same thing at 18, I jumped on a two and a half hour train just to go on one date with a guy I'd spoken to on Tinder, didn't tell anyone where I was heading! As you said, it's so lucky it was legit, but it's crazy to think of what could have gone wrong..not sure I'd make a decision like that now
@@jenjones90 Oh, it's no comparison, by any means. Ashley lost her life, and nobody could even imagine how terrifying and horrendous that could have possibly been. I'd say the conversation was more about how young people (especially with low self-esteem) are prepared to make quite drastic travel plans in the whirlwind of somebody being interested, without thinking to tell anybody major details. I think it's a worthy reflection, it's looking back on those past behaviors and going "yikes, that really could have ended badly, and I could have taken safer measures". (Just curious, but what did you mean about the profile pictures, too?)
I've done it too. Several times. Usually I'd tell someone who/where etc but I can understand as well why a young girl wouldn't. It's so awful, I wish these sickos just wouldn't exist :(
It's not that, rape accusations are tricky, you need physical evidence. You have to GO STRAIGHT to a GP/Hospital for a rape kit before the semen/damage has healed and been washed away. A lot of people shower and obviously keep silent from shame and all evidence is lost 😞 It's also tricky because of people '' crying wolf '' and ruining it for the innocent actually being raped.
I use to think that until the police did everything to help me. I’m forever grateful that guy didn’t get away with it. Now I think they should have more jail time but that being on their record and having some consequences, that makes me feel some peace. Now obviously every state or country is different
sarahtrees1 the sad fact about that is you’re one of the “lucky ones” because there are so many false allegations it’s hard to report and convict. And then they usually don’t get near enough time.
@@madlygilstrap8193 false accusations are very serious but rape is way worse. there is so many unreported rape cases that is just sad. all of these charts of rape and false accusaition are normally not right becuase of the millions of unreported cases. i dont understand how doing drugs is worse than rape. it should be at least 30 years for 1 rape. also its very rare to find evidence of rape too. thats one of the main reason boys and girls dont report.
it's scary how common rape is most of the victims don't come forward because of shame or fear but it's even scarier knowing there may be victims who've been murdered - I hope they rest in peace
My heart goes out her mother getting that answer from a police man on her phone. What a horrible way to find out about her daughter's rape and murder. I'm a man who is a survivor of being drugged and raped at age 36 after meeting a man from a dating site. Please be safe, no matter what your age. It has become the norm to instantly meet strangers from apps and this has made it a predators play ground. Always meet in a public place, inform friends and family and never get into a car with a stranger.
*hugs* I’m so sorry that happened to you. I’m a sexual assault survivor and we are survivors. It is never our fault and these people predators are evil bastards who should be locked up for much longer than they are. X
I’m so sorry for you :( that must’ve been horrible to go through and still horrible to think about today. I wish all people who do this could be thrown off the earth. I hope that you’re doing fine now OwO!
I used to be so frustrated when my mum would ask a million questions and ask to speak to the parents or make sure she dropped me off at their front door and saw them in person but THIS IS WHY 🥺 poor girl and poor mum 💔 they both deserved better 😢
I’m 25 and I stay at home with my Mum & Dad while I study. I still to this day get quizzed about everything and get a million and one questions asked! Always be thankful for your parents ♥️
Same! I remember I promised is was gonna call my mum at 10pm sharp but I was so tired from work that I fell asleep and missed all her calls. At around 10:30 the police are knocking on my door because my mum wanted a welfare check on. And I’m 25. At the time I thought my mum was over-reacting but watching things like this now makes me realise how much I appreciate her and how much she cares 💕
I was best friends with Ashleigh for 15 years we met when we were 2, her mam is actually my God mother, Ashleigh was the kindest most caring human ever and that day I lost my whole world, she was always telling her friends to be careful online so I'll never get my head around it, Eleanor thank you for being so respectful in this and I hope it teaches others to be safe online
Oh my goodness, I hope you’re doing alright considering the circumstances, she does sounds really sweet, kind and innocent, and that nonce is an awful awful awful human being, I give you, anyone who was affected by this, and Ashleigh my best wishes and I bet she’s in heaven or the best place she could be in (depending on what you believe in) 😊
i pulled my duvet over me last night when i turned to the side and when i opened my eyes for a sec i thought someone was standing over me but it was just a duvet lump in front of my face, and this is definitely the reason hahaha
You should cover the Hart family case. A white couple adopted six black children, drugged them, and then drove their SUV over the side of a cliff. Devonte Hart was famously photographed at a BLM protest in 2014 hugging a police officer.
Oh yes,I remember that case. The progressive Jewish lesbians right? California department of child services clearly placed those poor children in completely unsafe environment. Not surprising really though, most of those types are more concerned with virtue signalling than actual reality and they probably gave themselves extra brownie points for diverse progressive mess they set up instead of caring about the interests of those poor children. Very tragic.
This is the video I’m going to show my daughter when she says I’m too strict for having to meet the parents and barely letting her spend the night other places
I don't think that letting her spend the night other places very rarely is the way to go as long as you know the parents and the kids very well and know you can trust them. There's a fine line between sheltering your kids so much that they're unprepared for life and letting them be independent enough to potentially get hurt.
I’m sure there’s a middle way. Not letting your kid spend the night at a friends house if you know the parents well seems unreasonable. As someone who has a very "overprotective" mother (controlling is probably the better word), it just ruined the relationship between us. Being protective is good, being controlling isn’t.
Different levels of involvement/permissions work for different sets of parents/kids. I guess you just gotta be mindful of the risks, use judgement (aka educated guess) on how cautious to be, and accept that risks can't be completely eliminated. I mean, simply letting your kid go to the movies with their newly minted driver's license, I can't even imagine..
I’ve seen this in other cases too. If you are talking to someone online and their “parent” is going to pick you up, RED FLAG. As soon as I heard that I knew the “dad” was really him. We can learn lessons from every case.
Exactly. I wouldn’t ever feel comfortable with a person I’ve never Mets parent picking me up and neither would my parents. If I couldn’t drive yet my dad would have to drive me and meet the guy himself.
This case makes me think of all the stupid things I had done as a teenager with low-self esteem. I’m glad I’m still here today and didn’t meet this fate. Definitely making sure none of my boys act like this guy or do all the dumb stuff I have done. Thank you, Eleanor for bringing awareness to this issue.
As someone who has survived being groomed by an older man, I am glad that you're putting this story out there so that other young girls know that this can happen to them, even if they think it won't. If anyone wants to hear my own personal story about being a survivor, just say. I'm open about what happened to me so that people understand that grooming happens more often than you would like to think.
@J Ml it appeared to have happened very quickly though and surely he wouldnt have felt such a strong desire to confess if the truth about himself was revealed to Ashley but I guess we'll never know :(
Thats what I thought straight away😥 if it was me i would have clicked on as soon as the attack happened, as we get taught about catfishing at school now but im 2009 teens may not have been as educated on stuff like that😥
The idea that she died thinking/hoping the 'son' would save her, while in reality he was the one doing it to her is just....painful to think about, can't imagine what that must have been like
I mean not really. There are such things are kids not being able to drive. 17 year olds not being able to drive is pretty common. Especially in areas with a lot of buses. And the fact that a 17 year old isn't very trustworthy or good decision makers.... I wouldn't trust a 17 year old to drive my car.
@@_Fizel_ u have a point but wouldnt the 17 year old boy ride with them? To go get her and then the three of them head back to his house. Thats why to me its a big red flag
@@atmidnightdearleader1882 for sure, I always went with my parents to drop people off/ pick them up so they felt safer. Of course that's right move if it's the first time meeting
Beans have you ever gone through smth like that. you feel ashamed of what happened. or with some cases if rape happens and the rapist was a family member some families dont let them come out about it to not ruin rep.
Beans having been through reporting my assault and being treated like the criminal only for him to be acquitted because it was my word against his on the matter of consent despite him violently ripping off my clothes and throwing me to the ground. I can honestly say I’m not sure I would report if I were in that situation again.
where i live, (U.S.A. - midsouth) that man would either be seen as a mormon or a pedophile. very strange how those two things are so similar, yet so different. he would've been seen as creepy either way.
As a mother i have a lot of respect for how you told this story and the lessons you are trying to teach that are in the story. Thank you for taking the time to care.
his ex is my stepdads sister, ashleigh was the spitting image of her. i agree that he pre planned it though but i do think its possible that he chose ashleigh because she looked like his ex
So sad. Ashley was so excited. I know the feeling of how exciting it is when a boy takes notice of you when no one ever has liked you like that. You see your friends dating and it hurts. The poor girl was so excited
Becaaaaaaause the anxiety ridden brain likes the discomfort U know about the "comfort zone"? There also is a discomfort zone. And a person whose brain is used to feeling scared or unsafe uncontionsly prefers that state because that is what's familiar to the brain.
This is heartbreaking. Imagine giving birth, raising a child. They're trustworthy and overall seem like a good child many would wish to have. They're so close to finally entering adulthood, their whole life is just beginning. And one day you say bye, thinking you'll see them soon. But you never see them again. It must be truly heart breaking.
As a parent I know I would feel guilty for the rest of my life that I didn't say no when she asked to go on a sleepover. Unfortunately the mother wasn't at fault and neither was Ashleigh. Her murderer and rapist was 100% responsible for what he did not only to Ashleigh but other women,he just didn't murder them, Although I believe they were just lucky and got out with their lives.
Kids don't understand why parents are so "involved" with their lives. They want freedom and get angry because we ask "where are you going, who with, can I meet/speak to their parents, when will you be home, ill be texting /ringing you several times", etc. They say we're excessive and molly codling but this..... THIS IS WHY 😢
I have 2 young daughters and myself and husband has decided that they will not have social media and we will install an app to keep an eye on their activity on the phones ect I will aslo be open about things like this about the dangers of online relationships ect it's a SCARY SCARY world we live in
I was lucky. My mum was a 911 operator my whole life. She was never afraid to explain the importance of how to keep safe. Of course I grew up before the Internet. My heart breaks for the families who have to deal with the loss 💔
I have an app and I requested to share my account with my parents. It’s a button app that you hold in situations you don’t feel safe and if you let go it sends police to your location and notifies everyone on your list of your location. I got it and immediately told my parents and got them on my “network”
I feel like their needs to be a nice in between. You shouldn’t be so demanding about it because your kid doesn’t trust you if they feel like you’re hovering. You have to first build up trust and a good open relationship with your kid so they want to come with you with information not try to hide and cover it.
I would ask those people to send a video, showing their face, of them saying my username. You can't fake Something like that unless they use a deepfake, which is fairly easy but you can usually tell. They should teach kids that a few photos isn't always the truth. They could easily get it off an Instagram account or someone elses Facebook
@@beaulieuonnp593 yeah that too. And if you constantly screen record, then if something happens and they find your phone, it will make it easier to find the kidnapper
My great grandma always said “look at a persons head shape, if the head not made right somethings wrong with their brain” and obviously his head is extremely off.😬
me, having a flat back of my head throughout most of my childhood (it's rounded out) from pulling a muscle during the birth process *sweats nervously* /s
Stories like this absolutely break my heart. They need to be teaching internet safety in schools. This man targeted so many young women and children, he found the most vulnerable people he could. Please please please be safe, don't friend strangers, when people contact you online trying to meet you, even if you've talked to them a bit, don't go. Please don't. Stay safe everyone. When I was about 12/13 and Facebook was super popular with young people, I accepted friend requests from everyone and anyone because it was seen as cool to have as many friends as possible on there, and I am still having to go through now and again and see "do I know this person?" and delete hundreds of people, deleting old messages where these strangers tried to contact me. Thankfully my parents checked my ipod every night when I was that young (cause I wasn't allowed a phone until I started after school sports lol) and talked to me about being careful with who I talk to, what I said, and what I posted. I now know that multiple men were trying to groom me, and it scares me so much for the young people on the internet today. Stay safe
theMaraudersrock that’s really great to hear!! I graduated two years ago and they never taught us anything about it (I’m from the US, idk if you are but that might explain it). I’m glad to hear at least in some places they’re starting to talk about it so young. Parents being vigilant about what their younger kids are doing online is so important too, you’re an awesome parent for being so invested while also allowing your daughter to explore and have fun online
I agree with absolutely everything you've said but remember this case took place in 2009 and internet safety wasn't really being taught as social media sites were still in their infancy. I remember being friends with people on bebo and other sites that I'd never met and who had like 3000 friends (now that would ring alarm bells, then it was sign of popularity) and I probably wouldn't have thought twice about meeting up with them. Now we know the consequences of social media it's important to teach internet safety.
Elizabeth Nunez As someone who’s still in school and from the US I’d like to inform you this is heavily taught about if not every year. When hearing this story I was pointing out all the signs and confused why she couldn’t see them but realized this is from 2009 . We’ve come a long way :-)
I’m lucky that I’m not a peoples person and don’t like the internet much. I only watch Eleanor and Disney + and play games, for me there’s a less percentage of me getting raped or murdered, or anything because of this. Don’t trust anyone online, but if you meet up with people make sure it’s in a public area. Stay safe :)
i know right no one would put lol multiple times in one text....its just hella suspicious and knowing hes 30 odd just makes him a total nonce..cos he is one...i just cant believe he pretended to be 'peters' dad...poor ashley xx :'(
Honestly, I think especially these types of monsters deserve to suffer and rot in prison for the rest of their lives. Especially knowing how sex offenders get handled by other inmates. I feel like death is too easy.
It's kind of sad we have that reaction from just a simple sentence from hearing all these accounts of online pedos. If I or any of my friends ever was in this situation I know alarm bells would be going off in my head
So strange especially when I have got into the car with a lot of my friends dads lol like if my friends were still at their after schools clubs ect their dads usually would pick me and sometimes another friend up to take us to theirs to wait on them coming home as a few of my friends lived in the country side
Yup, thats a total alarm bell. To me it even sounded suspicious when he previously wrote that "his dad will take her back from him". And in general to spend a night at someone's house whom you are going to meet for the first time in person. I mean ok, lets say it wasn't actually an old murderer but really the kid from the photos: what if they just wouldn't "click" and in like an hour they both realised that they can't stand each other? How awkward would that have been if she was stuck there for the night?
I’m near Bishop Auckland at the moment, I was working in Darlington when this happened (haughton green), I was brought up in Trimdon and went to school at sedgefield though.
My mum was born and raised in Darlington. She says it’s a shitehole 😂 full of thugs and racists apparently. Although I’m sure there are some decent people from Durham 😂
right?? i’ve watched some other “true crime” channels (i mean they are true crime but i just don’t view them as that 😂) and honeslty eleanor is the absolute best
My fiancé added me on Facebook, and that’s how we met. As soon as I hit accept, he was in my inbox. We talked for 3 hours. Then we face timed for 5 hours after that. We talked to each other for a month before we met. When we did meet, we met in a Pizza Hut parking lot. I had my cousin with me. He had his friend with him. People are too crazy any more. This is my fear with my kids too. I’m hoping I’m raising them right. Not that her mom didn’t, but I hope I’m getting through to them
@@beaulieuonnp593 I fully agree. Because someone I went to high school with, and hadn’t seen in years, asked me to hang out and I’m like yeah sure. Dude ended up raping me that night. I decided then, idc if I’ve known him for years or just meeting him, someone will know who I am with, and I will have another person with me
I’m not usually affected by these kind off cases but this one really got to me. He’s absolutely disgusting, when I heard u say “his dad was going to pick her up” my heart sank. Ashley was so beautiful, may she rest in peace.
If UK prison is anything like US prison, other prisoners won’t take kindly to a dude with these charges. But ofc he’ll probably be in protective custody (which doesn’t always help of course, though in this case we’ be glad for that so he can reap what was sown). Even prisoners have moral codes and some people will get either beaten or murdered in prison based on their charges.
I feel for the parents as well as ashly. I'm not a parent but some part of me like to think if i had kids i would be able to warn them of such a thing. Then i thought Ashley parents probably did the same that's the why life works sometimes you try your best to get by and bad shit happens
Crybaby Wolf baby u ever heard of uk prison we literally have special rooms for people like him to keep them away from Gen pop to keep them safe a man raped him 2 week old son here and was put into a safe room so they wouldn’t hurt him
jenny bate it definitely was a lie... how can you become enraged with a child because they “acted and reminded you of your ex girlfriend” doesn’t make sense. He is a very sick guy.
Queen, before I get into this video I just wanna say, I hope you're well. I know the amount of study you put into these cases and I know it can't be mentally healthy but you do it anyway for us - thank you. But also take breaks when you need to! ❤️
holy hell Eleanor, you covering this means so much to me. Ashleigh n her family were/are a long time family friends, I grew up with her n her younger sisters n my mum n hers are best friends n went to school n went out drinking together before my mum had me n my siblings. what happened to her was so heartbreaking, I remember my mum crying a lot about it. now I go to the same college n in it there’s thing called “Ashleigh’s rules” about how to stay safe online n there’s a memorial bench in the college gardens dedicated to her. I’ll update my feelings when Ive finished the video, but thank you for covering it
Aya Jade this isn’t something I’d lie about ? it’s stupid that some people would do that, I literally have history with this girl n it’s nice to see that her memory hasn’t died out, I have nothing to lie for
I grew up just outside of Darlington and I started secondary school in 2009, I remember learning about this in year 8 and being taught how to use Facebook safely.
I'm from Bishop Auckland and I was 22 almost 23 when this happened and my son was just over a year old. When you hear of a case like this so close to home and you've just become a mam you worry what the world will be like once they get to that age its horrible xxxxx
Me too! But i was in wales. This case was used as an example as to be careful online. I was in my 2nd year of highschool. I think many schools used this example. Sadly.
My mom would have NEVER let me sleep somewhere unless she spoke to a parent, met the friend, and she would tell me to call her when I get there lol. Less so when I was older cause I didnt go out anyway but she was still pretty protective regardless. As an adult, I'm a lot more understanding of why she was like that.
Same! Even then, my mum always dropped me off to talk to the friends parents before leaving me. I never found it annoying or strange cause she taught me the dangers of strangers
Yea I don’t know why her mom would let her go to a random friends house with her mom not talking to anyone my mom would talk to both parents get there address call the parents
@@_Https.maddie totally. I don't understand that either. When I was 17 I wanted to do whatever I want but my parent shut me down with the "my house, my rules" thing. And I never left my place without letting my parents know where, with who I was going and what time I was arriving. In this case we have got to point out why Ashleigh's mother gave her daughter way to much liberty
I get you I really do because my mam was the same, but ashleighs mam felt like she could trust her she gave her that freedom because she was 17 and let her have her own independence tbh she knew most of the time Ashleigh was at my house so she knew she was safe, this one time it just so happened she said she was going to a different friends house but her mam trusted her, no one actually knew Ashleigh was going to meet this guy because trust me if any of us had known we wouldn't have let her go or go alone
@@milliejayne6083 young people lie and that's why her mother should have checked up. It's heartbreaking though. Really sorry for your and her family's loss. 💔
The thing that makes me so sad about this case is that if Ashley had survived, he wouldn't have gotten a long enough sentence for sexual assault and rape. He would've gotten 6 years max. That is unfair
i gotta say that cops don't do shit about sexual assault. its his word against multiple victims' and that's not enough to make an arrest. its not their problem, and they don't care.
yeah if the prosecution rate is lower than it should be for all rape cases, it's even lower for rape of a sex worker. There's still the prevailing attitude that sex workers can't be raped or "ask for it" which is heartbreaking and so dangerous.
Kids, this is why your parents hover over you and are overprotective, so THIS doesn’t happen to YOU. Count your blessings, hug ya mamas, and always watch your back
that poor poor girl. bless her heart, cannot imagine how scared she must have felt.. my heart goes out to her family. i dont understand how people are so sick!!!xxx
Yeah. That’d be my first red flag, that just implies he’s gonna do something like sex or something, because why’d you ask for that if you’re not going to take their clothes off..... Truly disgusting.
I'm from outside the UK but I did my master at Durham uni. I remember how safe I felt walking back home at midnight or walking through the wooden areas. However, one time I was doing volunteering and a gentleman started chatting with me. He asked me what was the thing I enjoyed the most about living at Durham and of course I talked about that feeling of safety. He looked at me so serious and told me to not be so naive about it and be more careful in the future, because it might seem like a peaceful place but you never know and that I shouldn't be too fearless. He ment well, I'm sure, but I felt a little uneasy about the realisation. After that I made sure to be more cautious.
I agree but I’m sure they don’t have bad intentions and comment before even watching it’s much like her having a shampoo/conditioner sponsorship in the beginning of the video. Harmless as long as they’re listening to the victims story and respecting the unfortunate situation after watching.
Watching this, I realize I wasn't just catfished as a teen; I was preyed upon by an old/middle-aged man. Had my friends not tagged along to "watch a movie at his house", I could have met the same fate as this young lady. And the fact that we share the same name and similar facial features would have shaken me to the core had this not been 7 years ago.
I’d love to see you cover Stephen McDaniel. He murdered a young woman who attended the same college as he did, and she also lived in the same apartment complex as Stephen. Him basically getting caught via a news interview is absolutely insane.
@Reeboka D- It’s such a tragic loss of life. This young woman being kind to Stephen because she was a kind person who didn’t want to hurt his feelings. So....he freaking murdered her. Such a senseless crime.
a lot of ppl in the comments are saying that he didnt murder her bc of the rejection and saying that doesnt happen but like?? My moms friend was murdered because she said no to sex when she was 16-18(?) im not sure because she told me last year when we went to the cemetery.
Same, every time she says “I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone that I talk about in this video” I think to myself, except these rap**** and murd*****, fu** them!
Agreed I once met a guy off Facebook I was 16 he was in his 20s not sure what I was thinking i also went to meet him when. I was 15 but tbh I got lost that day thank god I don’t talk to him anymore he was a creep and now I even. Have a bf whose my age and I feel much better in myself
Found your channel recently and I have to say, I adore how much detail you give to the lives of the victims of these crimes. So often victims are reduced to a name and an age while the killer gets a full celebrity profile. So thank you for presenting these victims as people. It helps drive home the horror of the crimes these people commit.
I remember this story going around my school and it turned out at least ten girls had his fake profile as a friend on FB. Thankfully he hadn't contacted any of them. Left everyone feeling scared for a while.
I was 9 when this happened. I live in sedgefield. Halloween was cancelled and my dad had to explain to me it was because a young girl was murdered. At the age of 9 it was both sad she died and sad I didn’t get sweets, so my dad bought me some
My heart goes out to her mother ❤️ I can't imagine how she was feeling after getting that news especially when she was expecting her daughter to answer the phone 🥺
Are you serious? She's covering a case about a young girl who was brutally assaulted, raped and murdered and you have the audacity to comment about her looks?
Flashflood The Hybrid there is comments like this all the time i didn’t think complementing elenor would be offensive to the case , and i wasn’t trying to disregard what case she was telling by saying she looks pretty 🤦🏽♀️
There was a comment on another post that she looked just like his ex. And that the ex’s friends think he planned her rape and murder because she looked like her. It’s really sad. Quote was from a friend of his ex
And 2009 was a very different time, I accepted most people who requested to be friends with me on any social media sites. I was 14 in 2009 and at that age I probably wouldn't have thought twice about meeting someone supposedly my age from the internet, especially as these sites were still in their infancy and internet safety wasn't as widely taught and the dangers of the internet wasn't as widely publicised.
When i was younger i'd get so anoyed that my parents always had to meet the parents of friends before i could sleep over at their house. These cases make me thankful that they did.
Thank you for blessing the internet once again, anything to distract me from the fact that I live in America, it truly sucks. Love you long time, Pheby!!
This is so scary because I met my boyfriend on social media and I had him pick me up and I didn’t want him to see my house so I didn’t make him meet my dad. I always thought I could’ve been killed. Of course he wasn’t a creep he was actually who he said he was but still so scary. I’m definitely gonna raise my kids carefully I want to know where and who there with unlike my parents.
Kids lie, this girl did. If they know they're doing something they shouldn't be they'll tell you they're somewhere else and get someone to cover for them. Even if you drop them off and pick them up from somewhere all it takes is them to walk around the corner or wait until you've left to go off with someone else.
You know, for people with low self-esteem, i think it's important that at least a few times when you run into them or see them, you go up to them and compliment something. From the color of their hair, to their eyes, smile, anything really. It can help a lot and boost someone's mood.
Imagine your child is 17, about to be an adult, their whole life ahead of them.. and some creep rips them away from you for a moment of deviant satisfaction. That mother has been living without her baby since 2009 :( adjusting to that reality must be hell
yess i know :(( and the fact that the mom calls ashley her rock, as in she helps her with everything, is so terrible, because she was ripped away from her so fast.
My uncle just lost my cousin, it was to suicide though and he said it's very hard to adjust to life without her. It's like, you expect the person to walk through the door or come into the room and they don't. Every time I'm at their house I just look at her door expecting her to come out and make her silly jokes. My uncle is looking for a new house now because he just can't live in the house anymore
Georgia Waylene i’m really sorry for you and your uncle, i hope you guys will get better soon
I would go.... murderous
Not to mention the fact that she could have still been in this world if the police had done their jobs properly... I am infuriated
i can’t even believe he served HALF OF A SEVEN YEAR SENTENCE for RAPING, ASSAULTING, and THREATENING TO MURDER two women. eleanor was right, i am infuriated.
ikr, its disgusting
Angie but this is in the uk
It’s even more disgusting when you think that it could have saved Ashley
@Angie i- this is in the uk
Angie This is in the UK but you’re right, much of the system is flawed here too
“If police had just done their job properly” seems to be a recurring theme in a majority of these cases 😔
Shewayit police aren’t very good at their job is what I’ve learnt in the past month
Same this just gets me more mad at them. How is it possible that this man had so many issues with police yet was still let out to society
This comment shows a total lack of insight in how a law system functions.
kate law enforcement system has one purpose: serving justice and protecting civilians. What do you mean they don’t know how law enforcement works?
kate ok bootlicker
HE HAS THE MOST PUNCH-ABLE FACE EVER OMFG 😭✊
😐🤜🧑🏻🦲
*peelable with a knife
Fr!! I'd punch the shii outta him 🙂
*smashable with a brick
Halfable with a meat cleaver
When she got the text from "peter's father" I got a pit in my stomach. All the dots started connecting. How cruel..
same her videos make me realise what a cruel place the world is
yup. the world is sickening. I just wish that one day all the bad people just go away. It’s horrible
Yeah honestly I felt like I knew there was no dad involved and that it was just him all along
If he was who he said he was, he would've gone to meet her himself. What 17 year old boy would send their dad to pick up a girl and be sitting at home?
As soon as I saw his profile I felt a knot in my stomach
The fact that this was the first boy who had made a move on her that she was attracted to as well makes me so much more sad about this. She spend the whole day getting ready probably thinking she would get her first kiss. 😭
Ikr :(
Thats what ive been thinking as well 🥺💔
🥺
It sucks because I've been in that situation. I was never popular in school and the boys didn't like me so I got attention from guys online. They were like 28 and I was 13, at first I just wanted to make friends my age online but then older guys started being interested in me and I took it as a compliment. I thought I was cooler because all these guys liked me but they just wanted someone vulnerable.
Dumb Lil Red i’m so sorry you went through that. i hope you’re doing well, you deserve to be loved for who you are, rather than exploited for your vulnerability.
He does actually look like the type of guy you wouldn’t let anywhere near young girls
in other words, an absolute nonce.
taz bibi I didn’t actually wanna say the word nonce but fuck it, call a spade a spade
It's funny isn't it. If you were gonna film a movie with a creeper in it....you'd cast him 🤣 how do you actually look THAT creepy
@@ayybibi im getting the word.... nonce
i wish she didnt go
As a 16 year old girl who also rarely gets noticed, I feel so terrible about what happened to her because I know if it was me I would've agreed to go too. I'd be so happy. I can't imagine how happy and excited she was to finally have someone notice her and want to be with her. As much as she may notice signs I'm sure she just couldn't wait to meet him. Only for it to be a lie and to lose your life. For just wanting to be a normal teen girl.
This case also made me realize why my mom bugs me so much when I'm out at night.
What a sad story.
Rip Ashleigh. ❤❤❤
This is why kids need to be educated about online safety.
@@beaulieuonnp593 you're completely right. Sadly alot of people my age don't take it as seriously as they should.
if the police would've looked further into pete, given him the correct punishments, and kept him on their radar, ashley would probably still be here today. the police completely slacked off their jobs, this man was evidently dangerous, and they just let him continue. its just so unfortunate that an innocent girl had to be the turning point of his conviction, even while so many others suffered before ashleys death.
Sierra Lynn this isn’t the first time the police didn’t do their job....that’s just sad
your so true
Sierra Lynn they literally never do their job!
corinthia Long 2 minutes ago lol
screw the police in general honestly
Poor girl. Bless her soul honestly. She didn’t deserve that. She just wanted to meet a nice boy and date like her friends probably did. So cruel.
The world is so horrible nowadays, as now a young 18 year old woman it’s a very scary thing, we shouldn’t be scared of things like this.
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Totally agree with you. You have great music taste by the way fren |-/
Aldo Steel regardless of saying “not being horrible” you were. nobody said he was mr. perfect bc he obviously wasn’t, and why would she try and give a chance to someone that she isn’t attracted to. let the girl rest.
Aldo Steel Shes dead, and no matter how much you try to say you’re not being horrible, you are. Let the poor girl rest in peace, it’s so creepy when people try and almost justify the death because she “shouldn’t of met him”
Whenever my mom gets too overprotective (which is all the time) she always tells me "It's not you I don't trust, it's the people out there."
Well she should trust that your smart to not do stupid things
Yep that what my mom says ‘’ I trust you I don’t trust the world
Girllll, my dad tell me the same phrase all the time. I'm glad I have the parents that I got.
that's what my mom's always says too
Rianna Annair that's what my parents always say
I wonder if Ashleigh died thinking that that was still the boys dad and that there was a real boy texting her.
omg that hurts me even more.
he probably told her hoping she wouldn’t care and when she freaked that’s when he attacked.
Alexander Velez i agree
This made me almost cry 🥺 I hate that man! I hope she’s found her soulmate teen bf in heaven as the angel she is!
Probably not...
This one hits hard, at 17 I remember meeting someone I was talking to online, I got on a train for 3 hours to see him, without telling my family where I was going. I was lucky this was legit, and we stayed together a few months but I remember clearly the excitement of being wanted and feeling loved at that age. The poor girl :(
I did the exact same thing at 18, I jumped on a two and a half hour train just to go on one date with a guy I'd spoken to on Tinder, didn't tell anyone where I was heading! As you said, it's so lucky it was legit, but it's crazy to think of what could have gone wrong..not sure I'd make a decision like that now
I don't think you can compare yourself to her...just by looking at your pic. Sorry, but I don't think you could relate at that age or now.
@@jenjones90 Oh, it's no comparison, by any means. Ashley lost her life, and nobody could even imagine how terrifying and horrendous that could have possibly been. I'd say the conversation was more about how young people (especially with low self-esteem) are prepared to make quite drastic travel plans in the whirlwind of somebody being interested, without thinking to tell anybody major details. I think it's a worthy reflection, it's looking back on those past behaviors and going "yikes, that really could have ended badly, and I could have taken safer measures". (Just curious, but what did you mean about the profile pictures, too?)
I've done it too. Several times. Usually I'd tell someone who/where etc but I can understand as well why a young girl wouldn't. It's so awful, I wish these sickos just wouldn't exist :(
I hope yall don’t do this anymore ...honestly why would you meet up with a stranger?
Rape isn’t taken seriously by police and court. They view it as ‘you’re still alive, so it’s fine.’ Disgusting
It's not that, rape accusations are tricky, you need physical evidence. You have to GO STRAIGHT to a GP/Hospital for a rape kit before the semen/damage has healed and been washed away. A lot of people shower and obviously keep silent from shame and all evidence is lost 😞 It's also tricky because of people '' crying wolf '' and ruining it for the innocent actually being raped.
I use to think that until the police did everything to help me. I’m forever grateful that guy didn’t get away with it. Now I think they should have more jail time but that being on their record and having some consequences, that makes me feel some peace. Now obviously every state or country is different
sarahtrees1 the sad fact about that is you’re one of the “lucky ones” because there are so many false allegations it’s hard to report and convict. And then they usually don’t get near enough time.
@@madlygilstrap8193 Uh... false accusations are incredibly uncommon
@@madlygilstrap8193 false accusations are very serious but rape is way worse. there is so many unreported rape cases that is just sad. all of these charts of rape and false accusaition are normally not right becuase of the millions of unreported cases. i dont understand how doing drugs is worse than rape. it should be at least 30 years for 1 rape. also its very rare to find evidence of rape too. thats one of the main reason boys and girls dont report.
I did NOT think we’d get another vid this soon. Today is a good day.
%100 yes!
I literally just saw ‘12 mins ago’ and I was like 😲
she normally takes ages, it must be a blue moon
Joe Preston you're so handsome🥺
@@b_r_a_n 😳
‘’I know that my audience are younger girls’’
Me, a 27 years old grown ass men.... aight.. 😬
I hear ya, I’m 31 and I love her content lol
Same, but 38 👁️👄👁️
LMBO . . . 30 yr old speaking.
28 year old man here!!
Hahahaha SAME! Except im 26...
Imagine how many times this has happened where the person hasn’t confessed, or the body hasn’t been found. It’s definitely very common.
Madeline mcann...
summer adams different situation.
it's scary how common rape is most of the victims don't come forward because of shame or fear but it's even scarier knowing there may be victims who've been murdered - I hope they rest in peace
@@keeleyyxc that's an ENTIRELY different situation. madeline was a toddler, not really like a toddler can find a boyfriend on facebook
@@av9638 I'm on about how the murderer hasn't confessed and the body hasn't been found not that she had a boyfriend love 😘xoxoxoxo
My heart goes out her mother getting that answer from a police man on her phone. What a horrible way to find out about her daughter's rape and murder. I'm a man who is a survivor of being drugged and raped at age 36 after meeting a man from a dating site. Please be safe, no matter what your age. It has become the norm to instantly meet strangers from apps and this has made it a predators play ground. Always meet in a public place, inform friends and family and never get into a car with a stranger.
*hugs* I’m so sorry that happened to you. I’m a sexual assault survivor and we are survivors. It is never our fault and these people predators are evil bastards who should be locked up for much longer than they are. X
I’m so sorry for you :( that must’ve been horrible to go through and still horrible to think about today. I wish all people who do this could be thrown off the earth. I hope that you’re doing fine now OwO!
I am so sorry Joseph, hope you are healing.
I’m sorry that happened to you stay safe
Larissa Croan I’m sorry for you horrible nightmare that was real life *hugs*
I used to be so frustrated when my mum would ask a million questions and ask to speak to the parents or make sure she dropped me off at their front door and saw them in person but THIS IS WHY 🥺 poor girl and poor mum 💔 they both deserved better 😢
OMG same here my mum would do that all the time!
Whatever happened to chaperoning?
Me too! My parents were so strict but now I fully understand
Yea for sure, I’ll never take my parents for granted again 😭
I’m 25 and I stay at home with my Mum & Dad while I study. I still to this day get quizzed about everything and get a million and one questions asked! Always be thankful for your parents ♥️
This is why my mum is still protective over me still at the age of 20! Sick and cruel world with horrible people!!!
@@klc96 I'm glad your mom cares about you so much, but at a certain point you should be able to tell the red flags yourself imo
Same! I remember I promised is was gonna call my mum at 10pm sharp but I was so tired from work that I fell asleep and missed all her calls. At around 10:30 the police are knocking on my door because my mum wanted a welfare check on. And I’m 25. At the time I thought my mum was over-reacting but watching things like this now makes me realise how much I appreciate her and how much she cares 💕
She sounds great.
@@klc96 Wow that's great,
I was best friends with Ashleigh for 15 years we met when we were 2, her mam is actually my God mother, Ashleigh was the kindest most caring human ever and that day I lost my whole world, she was always telling her friends to be careful online so I'll never get my head around it, Eleanor thank you for being so respectful in this and I hope it teaches others to be safe online
I'm so sorry for your loss, I hope you are doing okay 💞
I’m so sorry for your loss. Absolutely devastating
Im so sorry for your loss 😔
Oh my goodness, I hope you’re doing alright considering the circumstances, she does sounds really sweet, kind and innocent, and that nonce is an awful awful awful human being, I give you, anyone who was affected by this, and Ashleigh my best wishes and I bet she’s in heaven or the best place she could be in (depending on what you believe in) 😊
Im sorry for ur lost 😔
My therapist: “so why do you think you have this fear of being murdered”!
Me watching true crime cases before bed:
👁👄👁
Me too 😂😂
Ain't that the damn truth
i pulled my duvet over me last night when i turned to the side and when i opened my eyes for a sec i thought someone was standing over me but it was just a duvet lump in front of my face, and this is definitely the reason hahaha
What kind of therapist would ask that..
@@mooma10 hers and mine and a whole bunch more
You should cover the Hart family case. A white couple adopted six black children, drugged them, and then drove their SUV over the side of a cliff. Devonte Hart was famously photographed at a BLM protest in 2014 hugging a police officer.
Oh yes,I remember that case. The progressive Jewish lesbians right? California department of child services clearly placed those poor children in completely unsafe environment. Not surprising really though, most of those types are more concerned with virtue signalling than actual reality and they probably gave themselves extra brownie points for diverse progressive mess they set up instead of caring about the interests of those poor children. Very tragic.
Wasn't he forced to take that picture? He looked so distressed in it... poor children....
How have I never heard of this! Absolutely heart breaking.
literally how does this stuff slip the net, those poor kids
Mozzzagirl Xo it’s a new crime the body’s have only recently been found
This is the video I’m going to show my daughter when she says I’m too strict for having to meet the parents and barely letting her spend the night other places
Exactly what I was thinking too!
I don't think that letting her spend the night other places very rarely is the way to go as long as you know the parents and the kids very well and know you can trust them. There's a fine line between sheltering your kids so much that they're unprepared for life and letting them be independent enough to potentially get hurt.
I’m sure there’s a middle way. Not letting your kid spend the night at a friends house if you know the parents well seems unreasonable.
As someone who has a very "overprotective" mother (controlling is probably the better word), it just ruined the relationship between us. Being protective is good, being controlling isn’t.
i dont think there is anything wrong with that. i'm 25 and i still live with my mum and she has to meet all my friends
Different levels of involvement/permissions work for different sets of parents/kids. I guess you just gotta be mindful of the risks, use judgement (aka educated guess) on how cautious to be, and accept that risks can't be completely eliminated. I mean, simply letting your kid go to the movies with their newly minted driver's license, I can't even imagine..
I find it so hard to imagine that there are such sick people in this world
I don’t lol
That's why we should just focus on the good people in our lives
By who you’re watching and your profile picture, you watch good content :)
@@stellakarlsson2326 agreed. I am not surprised there are people this fucked up
There are too many people like that in this world
I’ve seen this in other cases too. If you are talking to someone online and their “parent” is going to pick you up, RED FLAG. As soon as I heard that I knew the “dad” was really him. We can learn lessons from every case.
Exactly the dad would normally contact the other persons parent if they are underage wtf
Exactly. I wouldn’t ever feel comfortable with a person I’ve never Mets parent picking me up and neither would my parents. If I couldn’t drive yet my dad would have to drive me and meet the guy himself.
exactly!! that’s why I prefer to meet someone in real life before chatting them up on social media
so my dad is gonna come pick you up so we can watch some true crime documentaries together, that good with you?
Trusting ppl online is stupid, period.
You know when Eleanor says the full date, something’s about to go down.
FAAXX I’m just like ahh sheeet
This case makes me think of all the stupid things I had done as a teenager with low-self esteem. I’m glad I’m still here today and didn’t meet this fate. Definitely making sure none of my boys act like this guy or do all the dumb stuff I have done. Thank you, Eleanor for bringing awareness to this issue.
Yes, hope so too, educating the boys to respect and not attack women would be good.
As someone who has survived being groomed by an older man, I am glad that you're putting this story out there so that other young girls know that this can happen to them, even if they think it won't. If anyone wants to hear my own personal story about being a survivor, just say. I'm open about what happened to me so that people understand that grooming happens more often than you would like to think.
If you don’t mind can you tell me I feel like this needs to be talked more about
I'd be interested in hearing your story! I know people who have been in similar situations
Happened to me too
Same with me, 15yrs ago, as well as blackmail. I hope you are doing okay now, it’s also okay if you’re not 💕
I am interested. I'm a teenager so this information could be helpful to us.
Is it possible ashley died thinking he was still the dad and not the man she had been talking to?
God imagine that breaks my heart
Very sad
@J Ml it appeared to have happened very quickly though and surely he wouldnt have felt such a strong desire to confess if the truth about himself was revealed to Ashley but I guess we'll never know :(
Thats what I thought straight away😥 if it was me i would have clicked on as soon as the attack happened, as we get taught about catfishing at school now but im 2009 teens may not have been as educated on stuff like that😥
The idea that she died thinking/hoping the 'son' would save her, while in reality he was the one doing it to her is just....painful to think about, can't imagine what that must have been like
"Peter asked Ashley if it was okay if his dad came to pick her up"
GIANT red flag 🚩
I mean not really. There are such things are kids not being able to drive. 17 year olds not being able to drive is pretty common. Especially in areas with a lot of buses. And the fact that a 17 year old isn't very trustworthy or good decision makers.... I wouldn't trust a 17 year old to drive my car.
Not really usually.. but since she hadnt met this boy it was kinda weird. I would never ride with any boy or his family if i didnt know them already.
@@_Fizel_ u have a point but wouldnt the 17 year old boy ride with them? To go get her and then the three of them head back to his house. Thats why to me its a big red flag
@@atmidnightdearleader1882 for sure, I always went with my parents to drop people off/ pick them up so they felt safer. Of course that's right move if it's the first time meeting
Bruh red flag and u put yellow flag
“we didn’t have enough resources” i guarantee if this guy was in trouble for smoking weed you’d have enough resources.
very true
This was in the UK, not the US lol, but even so, sex crimes are tbh the area that MOST resources should be funnelled into.
@@alexbennet4195 in the uk weed is taken even more seriously than in the us so it not being in the us has nothing to do with it lol
half a seven year prison sentence for two extremely violent sexual assaults. and yet people still wonder why victims don't come forward.
@@idcbyexo assault victims need psychological help. It's easy to talk when you're not the one broken and destroyed.
Beans have you ever gone through smth like that. you feel ashamed of what happened. or with some cases if rape happens and the rapist was a family member some families dont let them come out about it to not ruin rep.
Beans having been through reporting my assault and being treated like the criminal only for him to be acquitted because it was my word against his on the matter of consent despite him violently ripping off my clothes and throwing me to the ground. I can honestly say I’m not sure I would report if I were in that situation again.
Beans do you know how hard it is for victims to come forward? you blaming the victims for not being ready to tell people is absolutely disgusting
Beans are u dumb
That man looks like the definition of "creep"
where i live, (U.S.A. - midsouth) that man would either be seen as a mormon or a pedophile. very strange how those two things are so similar, yet so different. he would've been seen as creepy either way.
You can say that again. Shivers ran down my spine seeing him...
The living embodiment of the word “creep”
@@12s0ph exactly
Ur pfp is the cat version of his 😭💀💀 he looks like a bald version of my old maths teacher 💀😭😭
i’ve missed the “so today’s video is going to be another solved true crime case”
Same lol
Same
I read it in her voice and I love it. I’ve missed it too
U mean ‘sooooo todeys videerrr is goin tu be another solved true crime caaase’ 😹
What if it unsolved 🧐
As a mother i have a lot of respect for how you told this story and the lessons you are trying to teach that are in the story. Thank you for taking the time to care.
the way how he’s with a young child in almost every picture shown of him in this video doesn’t sit right with me :////
The ones w the babies giving me the creep.
Who would trust this man around their baby?
Let's be honest *she didn't remind him of his ex at all. He had pre planned to kill her from the get go*
Right making up excuses 🙄
When she first said it, I expected air quotes
Exactly. It was an excuse to possibly lighten his sentence. Also his history was very sadistic, this was his breakthrough.
his ex is my stepdads sister, ashleigh was the spitting image of her. i agree that he pre planned it though but i do think its possible that he chose ashleigh because she looked like his ex
jtayOk ok that’s fucking crazy i did not expect to see that in the comments section ok wow fun
So sad. Ashley was so excited. I know the feeling of how exciting it is when a boy takes notice of you when no one ever has liked you like that. You see your friends dating and it hurts. The poor girl was so excited
Me: i hate my anxiety
also me: watches these for hours before falling asleep
me rn LMFAO
Becaaaaaaause the anxiety ridden brain likes the discomfort
U know about the "comfort zone"? There also is a discomfort zone. And a person whose brain is used to feeling scared or unsafe uncontionsly prefers that state because that is what's familiar to the brain.
This is heartbreaking.
Imagine giving birth, raising a child. They're trustworthy and overall seem like a good child many would wish to have. They're so close to finally entering adulthood, their whole life is just beginning. And one day you say bye, thinking you'll see them soon. But you never see them again.
It must be truly heart breaking.
ToriTori knowing that it wasn’t there time to go yet would be worst I agree with you 😭
Ikr, it’s always the good ones that die first, not saying I’m good or anything, but that’s why I’m scared of people online.
True😭😭😭
As a parent I know I would feel guilty for the rest of my life that I didn't say no when she asked to go on a sleepover. Unfortunately the mother wasn't at fault and neither was Ashleigh. Her murderer and rapist was 100% responsible for what he did not only to Ashleigh but other women,he just didn't murder them, Although I believe they were just lucky and got out with their lives.
;(((
Kids don't understand why parents are so "involved" with their lives. They want freedom and get angry because we ask "where are you going, who with, can I meet/speak to their parents, when will you be home, ill be texting /ringing you several times", etc. They say we're excessive and molly codling but this..... THIS IS WHY 😢
So true. In the end they just want the best for us and want to keep us safe from the evils we don't understand 😓
I have 2 young daughters and myself and husband has decided that they will not have social media and we will install an app to keep an eye on their activity on the phones ect I will aslo be open about things like this about the dangers of online relationships ect it's a SCARY SCARY world we live in
I was lucky. My mum was a 911 operator my whole life. She was never afraid to explain the importance of how to keep safe. Of course I grew up before the Internet. My heart breaks for the families who have to deal with the loss 💔
I have an app and I requested to share my account with my parents. It’s a button app that you hold in situations you don’t feel safe and if you let go it sends police to your location and notifies everyone on your list of your location. I got it and immediately told my parents and got them on my “network”
I feel like their needs to be a nice in between. You shouldn’t be so demanding about it because your kid doesn’t trust you if they feel like you’re hovering. You have to first build up trust and a good open relationship with your kid so they want to come with you with information not try to hide and cover it.
when he said is it okay if my dad picks you up, my heart sunk:(
Absolutely
Why?
Huh
I LOVE YOUR ACCENT AND THE WAY YOU SAY “SO IN TODAYS VIDEO” LIKE STOP BEING SO ADORABLE I CANT HANDLE IT
“Pete was a DJ and went by the name DJ Pete”
Me: lol creative
Mitzey Tune 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
2020, you'd get bullied if you were called DJ pete lol
I think then, every 2nd dude was called DJ Pete
I laughed way to hard at this comment. Also that name makes me cringe😂😭 like of all names, really?
My friends dog is name DJ Pete..
this is such a sad story, can’t imagine how worried her mum was
I know I always have to prepare myself for these videos😖
Catfishing and predators online is such a huge issue. Being careful and aware is key
I would ask those people to send a video, showing their face, of them saying my username. You can't fake Something like that unless they use a deepfake, which is fairly easy but you can usually tell. They should teach kids that a few photos isn't always the truth. They could easily get it off an Instagram account or someone elses Facebook
@@Scarlettt343 Good idea. I do like the fact that you have their voice on record, what about their car reg too and these can be checked online too.
@@beaulieuonnp593 yeah that too. And if you constantly screen record, then if something happens and they find your phone, it will make it easier to find the kidnapper
My great grandma always said “look at a persons head shape, if the head not made right somethings wrong with their brain” and obviously his head is extremely off.😬
I have a weird shaped head 😐
@@MeHoyMinoy-cv3ps abort mission.
not a good way to judge but ok
me, having a flat back of my head throughout most of my childhood (it's rounded out) from pulling a muscle during the birth process
*sweats nervously* /s
Everyone gon be insecure about there head shape now
Stories like this absolutely break my heart. They need to be teaching internet safety in schools. This man targeted so many young women and children, he found the most vulnerable people he could. Please please please be safe, don't friend strangers, when people contact you online trying to meet you, even if you've talked to them a bit, don't go. Please don't. Stay safe everyone. When I was about 12/13 and Facebook was super popular with young people, I accepted friend requests from everyone and anyone because it was seen as cool to have as many friends as possible on there, and I am still having to go through now and again and see "do I know this person?" and delete hundreds of people, deleting old messages where these strangers tried to contact me. Thankfully my parents checked my ipod every night when I was that young (cause I wasn't allowed a phone until I started after school sports lol) and talked to me about being careful with who I talk to, what I said, and what I posted. I now know that multiple men were trying to groom me, and it scares me so much for the young people on the internet today. Stay safe
My school did but nobody even paid attention
theMaraudersrock that’s really great to hear!! I graduated two years ago and they never taught us anything about it (I’m from the US, idk if you are but that might explain it). I’m glad to hear at least in some places they’re starting to talk about it so young. Parents being vigilant about what their younger kids are doing online is so important too, you’re an awesome parent for being so invested while also allowing your daughter to explore and have fun online
I agree with absolutely everything you've said but remember this case took place in 2009 and internet safety wasn't really being taught as social media sites were still in their infancy. I remember being friends with people on bebo and other sites that I'd never met and who had like 3000 friends (now that would ring alarm bells, then it was sign of popularity) and I probably wouldn't have thought twice about meeting up with them. Now we know the consequences of social media it's important to teach internet safety.
It’s scary because there has been times I’ve met guys I know nothing about😭 (when I was younger) x
Elizabeth Nunez As someone who’s still in school and from the US I’d like to inform you this is heavily taught about if not every year. When hearing this story I was pointing out all the signs and confused why she couldn’t see them but realized this is from 2009 . We’ve come a long way :-)
Used to hate that my parents were strict and didn’t let me go places with people they didn’t know but now I’m older fully understand :(
I’m lucky that I’m not a peoples person and don’t like the internet much. I only watch Eleanor and Disney + and play games, for me there’s a less percentage of me getting raped or murdered, or anything because of this. Don’t trust anyone online, but if you meet up with people make sure it’s in a public area. Stay safe :)
same here
same. :/
omg the way they text. the fact that he put “lol” like 30 times in one text
that's on straight men
Sarah Jasim no, that’s on predators.
Nerves maybe? Like trying to cover up that it was actually gonna be him
ugh i was cringing so hard i feel like i've texted this guy 395 times yknow?
i know right no one would put lol multiple times in one text....its just hella suspicious and knowing hes 30 odd just makes him a total nonce..cos he is one...i just cant believe he pretended to be 'peters' dad...poor ashley xx :'(
This is why I support the death penalty. For extreme cases like this.
Same :(
Honestly, I think especially these types of monsters deserve to suffer and rot in prison for the rest of their lives. Especially knowing how sex offenders get handled by other inmates. I feel like death is too easy.
No one deserves death. Not even the worst people ever. Yes he is horrible but prison is a thing.
@@automaticusername1 same
@@nightjewel7199 Literally don’t even, prison is too nice. Actually if the prisoners beat him up then, it’s a plus
My heart sank when the guy said “his dad” would pick her up...
Same here. I'm not done with the video (I only know she was killed and her body's been found), but I have a horrible gut feeling.
It's kind of sad we have that reaction from just a simple sentence from hearing all these accounts of online pedos. If I or any of my friends ever was in this situation I know alarm bells would be going off in my head
@@cristinaestrella Same, though I assume people on the internet were more trusting before catfishing was a well known thing.
So strange especially when I have got into the car with a lot of my friends dads lol like if my friends were still at their after schools clubs ect their dads usually would pick me and sometimes another friend up to take us to theirs to wait on them coming home as a few of my friends lived in the country side
Yup, thats a total alarm bell. To me it even sounded suspicious when he previously wrote that "his dad will take her back from him".
And in general to spend a night at someone's house whom you are going to meet for the first time in person. I mean ok, lets say it wasn't actually an old murderer but really the kid from the photos: what if they just wouldn't "click" and in like an hour they both realised that they can't stand each other? How awkward would that have been if she was stuck there for the night?
Guys I'm from Darlington and I promise it's as bad as she makes it
Joe Williams I mean it’s a shit hole isn’t it lol. I’m from here too. Thank the lord I’m going to uni
Same lmfao I'm from darlington, I'm on fenby avenue
Ive had a chav threaten to hit me with his bike once, thats when I decided not to leave the house
I’m near Bishop Auckland at the moment, I was working in Darlington when this happened (haughton green), I was brought up in Trimdon and went to school at sedgefield though.
My mum was born and raised in Darlington. She says it’s a shitehole 😂 full of thugs and racists apparently. Although I’m sure there are some decent people from Durham 😂
Why is this girl not at 1 mill yet? She’s the best
Ikr! One of the best UA-camrs ever
Soon !
I reckon very soon though, I'm so excited for her
I mean she’s getting close 👀
right?? i’ve watched some other “true crime” channels (i mean they are true crime but i just don’t view them as that 😂) and honeslty eleanor is the absolute best
My fiancé added me on Facebook, and that’s how we met. As soon as I hit accept, he was in my inbox. We talked for 3 hours. Then we face timed for 5 hours after that. We talked to each other for a month before we met. When we did meet, we met in a Pizza Hut parking lot. I had my cousin with me. He had his friend with him. People are too crazy any more. This is my fear with my kids too. I’m hoping I’m raising them right. Not that her mom didn’t, but I hope I’m getting through to them
that was risky though, you could have been one of many at the time
@@beaulieuonnp593 I fully agree. Because someone I went to high school with, and hadn’t seen in years, asked me to hang out and I’m like yeah sure. Dude ended up raping me that night. I decided then, idc if I’ve known him for years or just meeting him, someone will know who I am with, and I will have another person with me
@@beaulieuonnp593 She was with her cousin. That's sensible, not risky.
sometimes it can work out for the best but there is also a chance something horrific like this case can happen
I’m not usually affected by these kind off cases but this one really got to me. He’s absolutely disgusting, when I heard u say “his dad was going to pick her up” my heart sank. Ashley was so beautiful, may she rest in peace.
Poor girl so innocent just wanted to meet a boy I hope that dirt bag gets what he deserves
If UK prison is anything like US prison, other prisoners won’t take kindly to a dude with these charges. But ofc he’ll probably be in protective custody (which doesn’t always help of course, though in this case we’ be glad for that so he can reap what was sown). Even prisoners have moral codes and some people will get either beaten or murdered in prison based on their charges.
@@PokyLilWolfPup true... even other criminals hate the ones that mess with children. I hope he gets what he deserves.
I feel for the parents as well as ashly. I'm not a parent but some part of me like to think if i had kids i would be able to warn them of such a thing. Then i thought Ashley parents probably did the same that's the why life works sometimes you try your best to get by and bad shit happens
RX500 Android Period! You and I both 💯
Crybaby Wolf baby u ever heard of uk prison we literally have special rooms for people like him to keep them away from Gen pop to keep them safe a man raped him 2 week old son here and was put into a safe room so they wouldn’t hurt him
The ex-girlfriend thing is a lie. He was fulfilling his sick fantasy.
Sorry but it's not a lie I know
jenny bate how would you know?
@@faariam5977 because I am related
jenny bate it definitely was a lie... how can you become enraged with a child because they “acted and reminded you of your ex girlfriend” doesn’t make sense. He is a very sick guy.
jenny bate also clearly this was pre mediated
Queen, before I get into this video I just wanna say, I hope you're well. I know the amount of study you put into these cases and I know it can't be mentally healthy but you do it anyway for us - thank you. But also take breaks when you need to! ❤️
holy hell Eleanor, you covering this means so much to me. Ashleigh n her family were/are a long time family friends, I grew up with her n her younger sisters n my mum n hers are best friends n went to school n went out drinking together before my mum had me n my siblings. what happened to her was so heartbreaking, I remember my mum crying a lot about it.
now I go to the same college n in it there’s thing called “Ashleigh’s rules” about how to stay safe online n there’s a memorial bench in the college gardens dedicated to her.
I’ll update my feelings when Ive finished the video, but thank you for covering it
I'm so sorry.May she rest in peace.❤❤
I’m sorry for your loss, she sounded like an amazing girl
i’m so sorry x
Sure you are not like people claim the exact thing for attention and likes on the internet all the time
Aya Jade this isn’t something I’d lie about ? it’s stupid that some people would do that, I literally have history with this girl n it’s nice to see that her memory hasn’t died out, I have nothing to lie for
I grew up just outside of Darlington and I started secondary school in 2009, I remember learning about this in year 8 and being taught how to use Facebook safely.
yikes rip
I'm from Bishop Auckland and I was 22 almost 23 when this happened and my son was just over a year old. When you hear of a case like this so close to home and you've just become a mam you worry what the world will be like once they get to that age its horrible xxxxx
Me too! But i was in wales. This case was used as an example as to be careful online. I was in my 2nd year of highschool. I think many schools used this example. Sadly.
Same I live near there, we had an assembly when I was in school on her story
Megan Clarkson Same I went to Darlington college. We did about this every year. I now live in Northallerton and it is still talked about
My mom would have NEVER let me sleep somewhere unless she spoke to a parent, met the friend, and she would tell me to call her when I get there lol. Less so when I was older cause I didnt go out anyway but she was still pretty protective regardless. As an adult, I'm a lot more understanding of why she was like that.
Same!
Even then, my mum always dropped me off to talk to the friends parents before leaving me.
I never found it annoying or strange cause she taught me the dangers of strangers
Yea I don’t know why her mom would let her go to a random friends house with her mom not talking to anyone my mom would talk to both parents get there address call the parents
@@_Https.maddie totally. I don't understand that either. When I was 17 I wanted to do whatever I want but my parent shut me down with the "my house, my rules" thing. And I never left my place without letting my parents know where, with who I was going and what time I was arriving. In this case we have got to point out why Ashleigh's mother gave her daughter way to much liberty
I get you I really do because my mam was the same, but ashleighs mam felt like she could trust her she gave her that freedom because she was 17 and let her have her own independence tbh she knew most of the time Ashleigh was at my house so she knew she was safe, this one time it just so happened she said she was going to a different friends house but her mam trusted her, no one actually knew Ashleigh was going to meet this guy because trust me if any of us had known we wouldn't have let her go or go alone
@@milliejayne6083 young people lie and that's why her mother should have checked up. It's heartbreaking though. Really sorry for your and her family's loss. 💔
The thing that makes me so sad about this case is that if Ashley had survived, he wouldn't have gotten a long enough sentence for sexual assault and rape. He would've gotten 6 years max. That is unfair
I feel like the reason why the police did such a poor job handling his first offences, was because it happened to sex workers and not "regular" women
i gotta say that cops don't do shit about sexual assault. its his word against multiple victims' and that's not enough to make an arrest. its not their problem, and they don't care.
That too and because he wasn't a person of color. If a man of color did the same thing he would of been on death row.
@@beautifullydiamond8273 That would only be in America perhaps. Unfortunately death row is not an option here.
yeah if the prosecution rate is lower than it should be for all rape cases, it's even lower for rape of a sex worker. There's still the prevailing attitude that sex workers can't be raped or "ask for it" which is heartbreaking and so dangerous.
@@hexadecimal7300 Oh no! That is so sad😭😭
Kids, this is why your parents hover over you and are overprotective, so THIS doesn’t happen to YOU. Count your blessings, hug ya mamas, and always watch your back
I agree, i always get sad with my mum like 'dont u trust me' but it shows how much they care about us so thanku for this comment ❤️😊
Thanks for this comment 🥺🤧💗
Thank you. I wish my parents knew what I was doing online in my days...
Absolutely! Well said 🙌🏼❤️
@@baileyydav your mum trusts you, just not the rest of the world. 💔
It really hurts my heart imagining how excited and happy she must have been. It’s so cruel. Hope she’s at peace. Bless her. ❤️
Should be life till he dies. not with a minimum of 35 years
Can you do Amber, the girl that inspired the amber alert if you haven’t already?
Oh my god I feel awful. I always assumed amber alert was to do with the colour. I didn’t realise it was named after a child 🙈
Amber Hagerman
@@Jodiice1981 Same here. I feel bad now.
yes please do this !!
Can’t believe you thought it was about the colour lol what a tit
that poor poor girl. bless her heart, cannot imagine how scared she must have felt.. my heart goes out to her family. i dont understand how people are so sick!!!xxx
I can't understand it either it's just heartbreaking and I wish the best for her family 😔💔
@@user-nw5up7se1w
What really twists my gut is that he tried to make sure she wore something sexy....
Yeah. That’d be my first red flag, that just implies he’s gonna do something like sex or something, because why’d you ask for that if you’re not going to take their clothes off..... Truly disgusting.
Alot of people have made fake Facebook accounts to mess with people but this man took it to the next level
I'm from outside the UK but I did my master at Durham uni. I remember how safe I felt walking back home at midnight or walking through the wooden areas. However, one time I was doing volunteering and a gentleman started chatting with me. He asked me what was the thing I enjoyed the most about living at Durham and of course I talked about that feeling of safety. He looked at me so serious and told me to not be so naive about it and be more careful in the future, because it might seem like a peaceful place but you never know and that I shouldn't be too fearless. He ment well, I'm sure, but I felt a little uneasy about the realisation. After that I made sure to be more cautious.
This is my cousin , absolutely heart broken to this day still and missing her so so much
Sorry for your loss
RIP Ashleigh
I’m so sorry for your lost 💙
i'm so so sorry for your loss
I’m so sorry
I'm sorry for your lost, stay strong though.
its sad all the comments are like 'fIrsT' and 'I cLiKeD sO fAsT'.
a young girl was murdered!
god bless her soulxx
maisie lawn exactly my thoughts, thank you 🙏
people probably hadn't seen the video yet tho
I agree but I’m sure they don’t have bad intentions and comment before even watching it’s much like her having a shampoo/conditioner sponsorship in the beginning of the video. Harmless as long as they’re listening to the victims story and respecting the unfortunate situation after watching.
@@diamondmartinez7775 yeah that's true
@@ugh1230 but they still knew it was about a murder or a crime
Watching this, I realize I wasn't just catfished as a teen; I was preyed upon by an old/middle-aged man. Had my friends not tagged along to "watch a movie at his house", I could have met the same fate as this young lady. And the fact that we share the same name and similar facial features would have shaken me to the core had this not been 7 years ago.
“I don’t mean to scare ya” your accent makes these a little less scary, in a good way. Like I’m hearing a scary story but while my mums hugging me
she has a really sweet and soothing voice.. a bit like bob ross.. just of true crime narration
Yes I think its part of Eleanors appeal. She is an excellent storyteller.
So true
I’d love to see you cover Stephen McDaniel. He murdered a young woman who attended the same college as he did, and she also lived in the same apartment complex as Stephen. Him basically getting caught via a news interview is absolutely insane.
Yes! It’s crazy, poor girl
@Reeboka D- It’s such a tragic loss of life. This young woman being kind to Stephen because she was a kind person who didn’t want to hurt his feelings. So....he freaking murdered her. Such a senseless crime.
oh gosh,, was that the one where he filmed her through the window before breaking in?? that case makes me sick
a lot of ppl in the comments are saying that he didnt murder her bc of the rejection and saying that doesnt happen but like?? My moms friend was murdered because she said no to sex when she was 16-18(?) im not sure because she told me last year when we went to the cemetery.
I hate when people comment “early” but I’ve just realized I’m not sure what else to say. Damn.
LMAO
I don’t think there really is anything to say considering you wouldn’t have watched the video by then lmao
Tīred Daily true! Honestly that’s a very good point. I’m not even sure why I commented.
You could just,, not comment
Best early comment ever
When she refers to them as a middle aged man when he's 32, and I'm sitting over here feeling like a granny at 30 now. 😆
haha !! me too
Yea, middle age is probably when ppl think around 40s? lol But in all honesty, to teens that probably is middle age. ahhaaha lol
I felt the exact same way 🥲
To be fair, he LOOKED older than 32, and a teenager would think he was middle-aged
Well I remember being late teens and we had a friend who we called "Old Dave", who was 26!! 😳😱🤣
I go to Darlington college they still have Ashley's rules each year on the first day back we get told Ashley's story
Sad but good to know her case could help others
Yeah I go to a school near Darlington and we learn about this and go over the case yearly
That’s so sad 🥺☹️
I can literally recite the disclaimer with her at this point
Same tho
Same
Same, every time she says “I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone that I talk about in this video” I think to myself, except these rap**** and murd*****, fu** them!
Same lmaoo
@@AuttiXo and the idiot police half the time that do nothing
Girls this is why we all need to stick together and not talk to strangers on the internet.
Totally agree !
Agreed I once met a guy off Facebook I was 16 he was in his 20s not sure what I was thinking i also went to meet him when. I was 15 but tbh I got lost that day thank god I don’t talk to him anymore he was a creep and now I even. Have a bf whose my age and I feel much better in myself
Me: yeah, there is a lot of ******up people around... 😔
Also me: finds boyfriend on Tinder 😅
Me with a long distance boyfriend of three years and having concrete evidence that he's who he says he is: 😳😬😅
Yeah, i would never meet anyone offline, nope, never! I rather be single all my life than try to mingle a serial killer in disguise.
Found your channel recently and I have to say, I adore how much detail you give to the lives of the victims of these crimes. So often victims are reduced to a name and an age while the killer gets a full celebrity profile. So thank you for presenting these victims as people. It helps drive home the horror of the crimes these people commit.
Aw hell yeah didn’t know this was coming
Name twin. c:
Same :) xx
I remember this story going around my school and it turned out at least ten girls had his fake profile as a friend on FB. Thankfully he hadn't contacted any of them. Left everyone feeling scared for a while.
Eleanor: Another case from County Durham
Me: (from county durham, living in country durham) 👁👄👁 lol im in danger x
I was 9 when this happened. I live in sedgefield. Halloween was cancelled and my dad had to explain to me it was because a young girl was murdered. At the age of 9 it was both sad she died and sad I didn’t get sweets, so my dad bought me some
i live in Darlington these cases really hit home I got told about this when I was at school once
Beth Lewis I’m in Trimdon Village and remember the same! Small world
Catherine Skelton *chuckles* hehe I’m in danger
Jackblacks bumcrack not really a laughing meme matter isn't it
My heart goes out to her mother ❤️ I can't imagine how she was feeling after getting that news especially when she was expecting her daughter to answer the phone 🥺
can we all agree she’s always stunning 🥰
yess! Eleanor is gorgeous:))
Yess and her hair is also gorgeous lol
Are you serious? She's covering a case about a young girl who was brutally assaulted, raped and murdered and you have the audacity to comment about her looks?
Flashflood The Hybrid there is comments like this all the time i didn’t think complementing elenor would be offensive to the case , and i wasn’t trying to disregard what case she was telling by saying she looks pretty 🤦🏽♀️
Eleanor looks like a doll in this video
Barbie is jealous
@@dollydahlsx she should be
She's truly stunning
Me: *Trying to save money*
Eleanor: Hair products!
Me: 👁👄👁
His plan was pretty smart and that scares me because I have two daughters.
Right. Makes me think it’s not the first time he’s tricked a young girl.
The mother wasn't smart enough.
Her personality was probably similar to his ex in that she realised he was a revolting human being 😒
Yes. She probably told him the truth, which sounds the same wherever you hear it.
There was a comment on another post that she looked just like his ex. And that the ex’s friends think he planned her rape and murder because she looked like her. It’s really sad. Quote was from a friend of his ex
this is why no one should accept friend requests from strangers. I never do. It annoys me when Facebook suggests strangers as friends to me
she was a child though, she really didn’t know any better. bless her.
And 2009 was a very different time, I accepted most people who requested to be friends with me on any social media sites. I was 14 in 2009 and at that age I probably wouldn't have thought twice about meeting someone supposedly my age from the internet, especially as these sites were still in their infancy and internet safety wasn't as widely taught and the dangers of the internet wasn't as widely publicised.
I had Facebook when I was 12 and always knew not to talk to a stranger on there :/
Amy Richardson everybody is different
When i think of “creep“ that guy is what i see.
same
You can tell he's a regular on the dark Web 😷
This actually makes me so upset, why did they not take it seriously after all the things he did? Rape and sexual assault is not taken serious enough
When i was younger i'd get so anoyed that my parents always had to meet the parents of friends before i could sleep over at their house. These cases make me thankful that they did.
Thank you for blessing the internet once again, anything to distract me from the fact that I live in America, it truly sucks. Love you long time, Pheby!!
This is so scary because I met my boyfriend on social media and I had him pick me up and I didn’t want him to see my house so I didn’t make him meet my dad. I always thought I could’ve been killed. Of course he wasn’t a creep he was actually who he said he was but still so scary. I’m definitely gonna raise my kids carefully I want to know where and who there with unlike my parents.
Kids lie, this girl did. If they know they're doing something they shouldn't be they'll tell you they're somewhere else and get someone to cover for them. Even if you drop them off and pick them up from somewhere all it takes is them to walk around the corner or wait until you've left to go off with someone else.
Same here! It’s crazy to think how many times I’ve been so lucky x
Just remember overly strict parents make insanely sneaky kids who hide everything with ease from parents
@@ayajade6683 100% the stricter the parent the sneakier the kid
Muls 95 Indeed I am batman because of my asian parents
You know, for people with low self-esteem, i think it's important that at least a few times when you run into them or see them, you go up to them and compliment something. From the color of their hair, to their eyes, smile, anything really. It can help a lot and boost someone's mood.