You guys get fucked in the UK... They just take the USD price and throw your money symbol on it 😆 would literally be cheaper for you guys to just import from America with shipping than buying it in the UK
@@paulgilmartin5675 I didn't catch any pricing conveniently in the video. From what I can see, it's about £1740 (prices will vary by site). But it is basically just a 4070 laptop with the screen, keyboard and trackpad removed. You can buy an RTX 4070 laptop for about £600 less. So you're paying a 50% premium for them to give you less stuff.
This was an accident review. I appreciate your time and effort. If possible, can you please run Flight Simulator 2024 and see how that fares in the FPS department? Thanks in advance.
I would love to see proper support (including vendor' software) for Linux on this kind of device. For me it's might me a new gen of Steam Machines when Valve will realese SteamOS for every device.
ASUS warranty issues were almost entirely in communication and upsells. They're not credibly accused of actually denying valid warranty work. The communication makes it sound like you have to agree to the upsell to get the legitimate work. But if you declined they still did the required work. Still shady. But not nearly as bad as some people make it out to be. The far bigger problem is turn around times longer than a month. So most people would have to buy a second computer anyway.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Did you not see Steve's video where ASUS threatened to return his game in pieces if he didn't pay the several hundred dollars to "fix" the slight blemish on the exterior plastic? When he sent it in for a bad joystick that they didn't even mention?
@fred_derf Yes, I did. And I've read many other accounts as well. In none of them was the console returned in pieces. And in all of them the required warranty work was done correctly. The problem is 100% with communication and 0% with actually performing warranty work.
Thanks for your feedback pricing is a difficult to directly compared as you are talking about a unique product in the market. You will not find custom DIY options that you can build in a 2.5L form factor and offer this performance while still maintaining high speed IO and ease of upgrades for items like DRAM and STORAGE. The unique design requires custom design through from the chassis, motherboard and more. In this respect it offers compelling option for those who want a high performance gaming PC in a compact profile but without the challenges or complexity of a DIY system. We of course advocate and offer a comprehensive ecosystem for those who favor DIY and want to high control component selection and try to also reduce price aggressively by increasing size, selecting compromises on some components ( such as you will not find entry mini ITX boards with TB connecvitiy or support for three M.2 SSDs ). In the end this product just like our DIY ecosystem of products is not intended for every user but more so just like DIY options as well as laptops, gaming handhelds and more are target to specific users who value the total design, features, functions and specifications. Hope this provides some insight in the ROG NUC and its pricing. Lastly if you want a similar option albeit with a larger form factor you can a consider the ROG G22CH which is still compact and carries a lower MSRP but is larger. Traditional mini PC chassis are 15 to 18L ROG G22CH is 10L ROG NUC is 2.5L
@@Thesavagesouls So put a laptop next to your TV. I wasn’t just thinking about this particular product, but mid-to-high performance mini-PCs in general. Most are at least as expensive as a comparably equipped laptop.
It's actually the only device that lets 1 series processor to run at 100+W TDP continuously(so far). Might be interesting for someone, but pointless for the most people
@@Asfanboy1 It is still a valid point though... you can get the Thunderobot Mix, which is almost a like for like copy of this NUC, only using a 13900H CPU (same performance as the Ultra 185H, maybe even marginally beter), only costs half the price. It's quite an upsell for the brand name.
can build a better pc with that type of cash...this will obvious won't go well in sales. Wait till Dec, they will either slash price or simply stop its prodcution
You can get 4070 laptops for $1500 so this feels like it's very poorly priced. Sure it's going to perform better because it doesn't have the same power restrictions and the cooling on this is probably better, but still I feel like this should maximum be $1500 because they've cut the screen, battery, camera, etc.
I don't know what they're doing with that. This thing is far too expensive. The graphics seemed underwhelming, and my understanding is that the laptop graphics chips from Nvidia use model numbers on laptops that correspond to the next lower desktop card, so that this 4070 performs as a 4060 desktop does (putting form factor and cooling aside). And this i9 laptop is more like a i5 desktop.
i hear you. The price of these things, inspite of their awesome size and form factor, always humbles back down to reality when I realize what you could be getting for the same price in a mini itx desktop
Again the price doesn't align with the specs. You can get a similarly configured gaming laptop for under $1500, and you get a screen, battery, keyboard, and speakers thrown in for good measure.
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 Because it's using a laptop CPU, GPU, RAM, and power supply? It's literally a laptop in a different form factor with less stuff.
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 bro watch the vidéo again. It uses freaking laptop components 😂 Intel Core Ultra 9, RTX 4070 Mobile, ... etc But I don't understand why this cost more than a similar spec'd laptop while having less stuff ( screen, keyboard and trackpad, battery,...)
Consider the recent track record of ASUS I would not buy anything from them until they proven to be trustworthy once again. I still have my rog ally with faulty sd card slot, I made wise decision didn't sent rma otherwise my ally might be one of those been hold hostage.
@@gatesroyale I don't know whats currently the most acceptable amount of VRAM but 8 in 2024 for new titles can be fairly underwhelming. Most newer cards are like 20s-30GB area of VRAM. If you are not very into the PC scene, might be best to keep clear of a product like this for now. it looks cool but is very niche.
Once again, You might as well get a regular gaming desktop. For the same price You'll get double the RAM & SSD space with the same graphics and performance. Mini-PCs are SUPPOSED to be cheaper, but the ones being reviewed on here never are.
@Runescope i'm fine paying more for a more compact computer with higher density parts and lower power consumption. But I draw the line at laptops. There is no reason this should be more expensive than already overpriced laptops.
@@Bajicoy if it had a laptop 4090 would've considered the price but even then it still seems to expensive especially when it doesn't have a keyboard, monitor or mouse lol
ASUS: Did you just download Armory Crate? AND change our fan curves when we had them set to a automatic setting? Warranty voided because you pressed the power button.
@@mechanicalmonk2020 One things for sure. Even when it's ASUS, when you look at their web site for the 4060 + 4070 versions, they aren't available. That rarely changes.
Yeah, this thing is so confusing. You can get the 2024 4070 G14 with an awesome OLED, great speakers, good form factor, 32GB RAM for $1999 new through BestBuy in the US. That laptop also being an ASUS product, portable, with a battery, keyboard, screen, what in the world is the point of this computer, barring the Intel Ultra 9?
rog nuc w/ core ultra 9 185H + mobile rtx 4070 8gb + 32gb ram + 512gb ssd: $2199 literally the exact same specs but with only 16gb ram in the zephyrus g16 laptop with battery+16" 240hz OLED+keyboard built-in: $1999 ..yeah you're getting ripped off, this thing needs to be $400 cheaper at minimum
Costs more than a laptop with the same specs and it’s much thicker than a laptop plus it doesn’t have a screen / keyboard / battery / trackpad built in, the price doesn’t make sense
Overpriced Better to buy GAMING LAPTOP with i9 and RTX 4080, 4090 for this price and we get bonus KEYBOARD inbuilt and a screen as well as well as speakers and a touchpad as well.... And maybe we can get OLED or MINI LED at that price
They're different games. One is about being a middle schooler trying to sneak around during class to smoke cigarettes in the bathroom and avoiding Hall Monitors.
You could, but most laptops hard limit the TDP on the CPU/GPU since the cooling and battery wouldn't be about to keep up. So you'd never get the most out of it
This is exactly what I said for the price this is you can get a laptop with a great screen (like asus own g16) that will perform very similar and have a oled screen for the same price if not less.
@@ColorblindMonk Anyone looking into this sorta pre-built probably isn't going to be the getting-the-most-out-of-it "type" anyway, I reckon. Maybe It's just me, But the practicality gains to reap by picking a laptop over this far outweigh the relatively miniscule performance difference (I reckon) you'd end up with. Also, Depending on what machine we're talking about, I can't seem to convince myself to think this thing cools itself any better than a comparative laptop.
For those of you who don't want little boys gaming aesthetics or crazy asus prices there's a case called the fractal design ridge that'll fit an ITX motherboard, psu, and a graphics card in what looks to be about the size of a PS5. You'd think assembling a PC is difficult but you save so much more than the effort tax will buy, and it gives you something fun to do and customize
Yeah man the Ridge is a cool case. Takes a lot of research but I have a liquid cooled 7900xtx / 7800x3D in mine built for 2K/4K gaming. Highly recommend for couch gamers.
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 Well that is the issue, in EU there is a law for RMA and warranty, and Asus is not following the law, why should I pay and repair issues that ASUS created and doesn't want to fix... Truthfully they used to be the top company, and I really loved them, but after the issue with my 3070 ROG and being unable to get a refund for a broken card (that was bought straight from Asus) I honestly can't trust them, and then after the GamerNexus video about the same thing the opinion of them just disappeared totally. They are as trustworthy as the politicians...
Much as I do like mini-PCs and this one really does have a nice aesthetic, but I think the manufacturers are really missing the mark with the pricing. if it cost the same, if not more, than an equivalent high end laptop with the same specs, what is the point of buying the mini-PC? It needs to be cheaper by at least the price of the keyboard, mouse, monitor and speakers/headphone you don't get.
$2200 for the 4070 version 😳 And you still only get 16gb RAM and 512gb SSD I'm not the brokest broke boy, but this should be $1500 MAX and that's pushing it.
Special use case, indeed. For me the size savings isn't worth forking out the $2100. Not even close. Especially not to a company like ASUS given their antics as of late. I think i'd rather just put something together in a Fractal Terra for a little bit larger of a footprint and have individual component upgradability to boot.
They need to make a mass market $199 TV box. If all these companies can make a $500 handheld with an expensive battery and touch screen, and all the other extra components like buttons, speakers, mics, gyros, etc, I am sure someone can put out a decent AMD APU box for $199 and still make a profit.
The NUC product have always been garbage - now worse than ever. Loud, hot, non-upgradable. Intel is struggling with awful IPC and thermals compared to the competition. Nvidia is claiming that this is a 4070 when in reality it is a desktop 4060 (which is actually a 4050 looking at bus, die size, and die name). 8gb vram in 2024 is pathetic. The 1070 came with the same 8gb for $380... EIGHT years ago. ASUS warranty and customer support. No need to explain further. It is the perfect storm of terrible. $2.k+ 🤣🤦🏻♂
Who in the right mind would buy this!!!! First, Asus customer service sucks. The price and performance for this is insane. You could buy a full fledged PC build in a mini tower for the same price or even cheaper.
Asus armour crate for desktops PCs is much different then from ally Asus software is horrible, installing Asus armour crate has about 15-20+ background tasks that run all the time. A lot of bloat.
Too expensive... and with a laptop GPU.... It feels like Asus just wants to spend its old GPU stockpile as things are getting upgraded to the TI version. It's a no from me...
Extremely overpriced, lately your content looks like a paid advertiser. Nothing budget-friendly or the root of retro. So it is an unsub, time to look for new and better retro content creators.
If you consider the size, especially with the external power supply, you're better off building a mini ITX system with, for example, the Velka 3 case and you'll end up with about the same size and a better cooling system. Plus, it's easily half the price.
I can not speak of the quality but the thunderobot mix has basically the exact same specs for way cheaper i believe the 4070 version is only like 1200£
I'm looking forward to buy one of these two. The Thunderobot is indeed cheaper, but I strongly believe that Asus has some way better internal built overall. Maybe not better enough to justify the price.
@@legacytournament I would say asus quality would be better atm I am not sure with the Asus rog ally having problems only for Asus to deny it even under warranty
I have a question, i have never used nvenc or any mini pc and want to buy one purely as dedicated streaming pc. Plan is to multistream and use for encoding/recording triple AAA titles in 1080p 60fps or 1440p and maybe 4k. I want to use NVenc AV1 as encoder so want to make sure this can easily can handle everything.
I'm thinking about getting of these to replace my 2021 desktop PC that has a 3080... I like a dedicated gaming system without much fan noise, this could be a very ncie little desktop to do some speedruns on!
Who has $2200 for gaming PC and decides this is what they buy? I spend stupid money on handheld PCs, but you can get a 4080 desktop for this money. 🤷🏽♂️
Okay, listen to me: I recently bought the NUC 12 Enthusiasts (32Gb+1T) for $900 and compared to the ROG NUC: - x0.8 CPU strength (12700H) - x0.7 GPU strength at x1.33 VRAM (Arc A770M 16Gb) - TWO USB4 ports. I was surprised to see only 1 port on this ROG NUC - Same 330W power brick What do you think? I think $3000 for this generation of NUC is batsh*t crazy!
How well does the Arc 770M generally do? I hear it's surprisingly good in some places, of course lacking in others. I don't have a good read on the general place where it stands.
@@SwordfighterRed Short answer: - A770M is a full desktop A770, just running at lower TDP. This is the main reason when I bought the NUC. - 1080p60 Ultra or 1440p60 High (except unoptimized AAA titles) - Frame time: some stutters/1 hour of gaming. - Bugs: I encountered some, can get annoying. Reinstall drivers to fix. I will give a longer answer below. I felt the same ambiguity before buying intel ARC so I want to share too.
@@SwordfighterRed Long answer: potentially, the A770(M) is a sleeping beast, packed with raw hardware power. However, it depends on driver support of intel & developers into the future. For example: I recently finished Uncharted 4, a DX12 game, on my NUC at 1080p Ultra averaging around 70fps. Starfield, another DX12 game, runs at 20-30fps regardless of 2K or 4K resolution. You get the idea. Outside gaming, it's also ridiculously good at video editing. I use CapCut to make vertical videos and 4K scrubbing is flawless, rendering is fast (1m30s video = 15s). Video editing is perfection with Arc cards because intel plays well with Adobe and DaVinci and such. On the other hand, it is hard to deploy AI models because there is little support, requiring even more workarounds than AMD cards. It's pretty power efficient though. In conclusion, right now A770M = 3060, potentially it can sit between a 4060 ti and a 4070, and we are talking about a mobile card with desktop capabilities. Yet again it depends so much on the future of Alchemist/Battlemage support. Essentially I'm betting on the A770M based on the fact that intel is still making cards such as A580/A750. Hopefully it serves me for a long time.
It's a laptop with no screen, no keyboard, no touchpad, and no battery. They even cheapened out by using a generic charger. And for twice the price of a comparable laptop...
LOL 2.2k for laptop 4070 XD Just put together 4080 Super 64Gb 4TB in a slightly bigger case for 2k XD They got me once with XGM 4090 and then killed it LOL I am done with ASUS....
Wow... Oculink much? Why would you limit yourself with a machine that has no Thunderbolt, let alone Oculink. External GPU's are the future. This machine is outdated immediately. Compare to AtomMan X7 Ti... or if you love Ryzen, the MINISFORUM UM890 that ships at the end of July.
Too expensive and terrible IO. A NUC brand shouldn't carry any less than 2x Thunderbolt 4 ports. Also the NUCs of YORE which I'm looking at (not typing on) right now, has 3 display ports, 2 thunderbolts, 6 USB ports, full sized SD reader as well.
Even not mention price. Why do I need 16 core cpu for gaming? For SFFs like this - 8 cores with SMT is more then enough, so something like 7800x3d can be the king of the hill. As I understand Asus - 7945HX3D was overkill and its not "modern", so the used that strange Core Ultra 1xx chips. They dont even support pci-e 5.0 nvme, all 8 v5 lanes is for GPU. All in all - strange config, that was chosen by marketing department. Modular SFF with descrete components can do better with lower price being a little bigger but estetically much nicer than this coffin with RGB
Seems to be way too expensive when compared with similarly configured ASUS gaming laptop. For 4060 model around $1,300 USD. With no battery, LCD, keyboard. NUC should be way cheaper than laptop, around $1,000. No buy.
I usually say NUCSs cost the same or more than similar spec laptop but I can't find it. The cheapest equivalent laptop I found is $200 more. I did a quick DIY build at newegg which costs $1310-the NUC $300 more not surprising but then again less difference than I expected. I thought the DIY would cost around just above $1k.
As the web site doesn't mention the GPU between the different versions. I'm assuming it's the $2200.00 version. TWENTY TWO HUNDRED BUCKS. It's a one trick pony unless you want to hook up a eGPU in the future. Ridiculous.
Problem with this gaming NUC is the same as all the previous gaming NUCs, they're just expensive for the parts inside them. If it's anything like NUCs past (like skull canyon) they're both dropped on the same board, it's an entirely custom setup. So they have to charge so much to get their profits out of it that it makes it really hard to justify.
I don't the idea behind this product. Not with that kind of price when I can just get something like Zephyrus G16 with 4080 in my country, that has fricking OLED display, awesome speakers, and better GPU 😂. Then dock it on my desktop setup to basically get a better setup at a better price.
I have this in the form of a ROG Zephyrus G16 with the same cpu and same gpu. I paid $1600 for it and it's probably going back. What is Asus thinking here? Just buy a G16?
As with anything their will be a sale or discount on one of these or when new cpu and cards come out the last gen will be the discount. This is the right way to purchase anything be it laptop, Pc or something like this... I have the GC22CH and in general happy with it and it does have the built in Power Supply. As it sits pretty much smallest prebuilt you can buy with built in Power Supply. Only Negative is fans are always loud... if this was quiet when no gaming I would be very happy and I am the type of customer to buy it... The GC22 wihty a 3060 I paid 1199 pre tax and then very unhappy to see it get down to 849.00 on Amazon 2 months later before prices went back up. You just have to check pricing daily on these kind of things till it hits a buy.
Do you realize that people build real desktop PCs with proper desktop components in that form factor? Unlike this mobile components crap. It's even better to buy a laptop with same specs than this overpriced junk. one more thing RTX 4070 mobile is even slower than RTX 3070 desktop lol
These mini gaming PC's are just always priced wrong in my opinion. I think the target audience for these things are laptop gamers that would like some extra performance and the ability to have a bigger than 15-17 inch screen. However, these mini gaming PCs are priced like they assume you're replacing a tower PC with it and you already own a monitor and keyboard. If the RTX4070 version was priced around even $1700, I could maybe ditch my gaming laptop. However, if I'm going to get the same performance as a laptop, why wouldn't I just buy a laptop where I don't have to worry about buying a monitor too. At $1700 I can get a good monitor for less than $2000 total. Although, I'm losing the portability factor which should factor into the price too. To me, this PC is meant for someone ok with laptop performance, but would like a bigger screen without having to connect a separate screen to their laptop since that starts to take up a bit more space. If you got the space for that you probably have the space for a small tower. I dunno. I just don't understand who these PCs are really for. At the price they sell them, you're better off just getting a laptop since you'll probably get the same performance. If you have the room for a tower then you can get better performance for less money. I mean, is anyone that already has a tower PC of any size, moving to this on their next upgrade? On the flip side, I could see a laptop user making that switch... at the right price. Otherwise, they're just going to get another laptop.
Absolutely crazy price for the hardware inside.
....that said, how much is it in UK?
You guys get fucked in the UK... They just take the USD price and throw your money symbol on it 😆 would literally be cheaper for you guys to just import from America with shipping than buying it in the UK
@@paulgilmartin5675
I didn't catch any pricing conveniently in the video.
From what I can see, it's about £1740 (prices will vary by site).
But it is basically just a 4070 laptop with the screen, keyboard and trackpad removed.
You can buy an RTX 4070 laptop for about £600 less. So you're paying a 50% premium for them to give you less stuff.
Right! The Ultra 7 sku is priced crazy, but the $570 increase for the Ultra 9 with otherwise identical specs is insane.
what's the price ? says out of stock for me
This crap has 1k worth of hardware and costs 2.5k. ASUS once again proving how bad they are as a company.
Asus : open laptop design proposal, remove the screen,keyboard and battery, now we can charge more 😂
Yeah wtf like you can find comparable notebooks for 1600-1700 and this costs 50% more while having less components? Lmao
This sh*t is a scam 😂😂😂
Well what you expect a $500 mini PC that could game?
@@frankwong9486 it's sad cause I would love something like this behind my tv to play on my couch
This was an accident review. I appreciate your time and effort. If possible, can you please run Flight Simulator 2024 and see how that fares in the FPS department? Thanks in advance.
I would love to see proper support (including vendor' software) for Linux on this kind of device. For me it's might me a new gen of Steam Machines when Valve will realese SteamOS for every device.
Looks pretty sweet, but at that price it is a FIRM PASS. I'd rather the full 16" Framework Laptop with the 4070M....
I bet you could cook eggs on this thing, at full throttle 😂
ASUS Warranty: Your claim was denied because you added additional storage.
Nah that warranty left with the peel😂
And charged $500 to fix because it's got a tiny scratch!
ASUS warranty issues were almost entirely in communication and upsells. They're not credibly accused of actually denying valid warranty work. The communication makes it sound like you have to agree to the upsell to get the legitimate work. But if you declined they still did the required work.
Still shady. But not nearly as bad as some people make it out to be. The far bigger problem is turn around times longer than a month. So most people would have to buy a second computer anyway.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Did you not see Steve's video where ASUS threatened to return his game in pieces if he didn't pay the several hundred dollars to "fix" the slight blemish on the exterior plastic? When he sent it in for a bad joystick that they didn't even mention?
@fred_derf Yes, I did. And I've read many other accounts as well. In none of them was the console returned in pieces. And in all of them the required warranty work was done correctly. The problem is 100% with communication and 0% with actually performing warranty work.
Customer: hi, sd card slot is not working
Asus: pay us $100 and ship at your cost and we will tell you the same thing
You forgot if you don’t pay up, they send it back in parts lol
Pay more than the PC to fix a microscopic dent on the side
Performance and form factor is awesome but the price is garbage.
Thanks for your feedback pricing is a difficult to directly compared as you are talking about a unique product in the market. You will not find custom DIY options that you can build in a 2.5L form factor and offer this performance while still maintaining high speed IO and ease of upgrades for items like DRAM and STORAGE.
The unique design requires custom design through from the chassis, motherboard and more.
In this respect it offers compelling option for those who want a high performance gaming PC in a compact profile but without the challenges or complexity of a DIY system. We of course advocate and offer a comprehensive ecosystem for those who favor DIY and want to high control component selection and try to also reduce price aggressively by increasing size, selecting compromises on some components ( such as you will not find entry mini ITX boards with TB connecvitiy or support for three M.2 SSDs ).
In the end this product just like our DIY ecosystem of products is not intended for every user but more so just like DIY options as well as laptops, gaming handhelds and more are target to specific users who value the total design, features, functions and specifications.
Hope this provides some insight in the ROG NUC and its pricing.
Lastly if you want a similar option albeit with a larger form factor you can a consider the ROG G22CH which is still compact and carries a lower MSRP but is larger.
Traditional mini PC chassis are 15 to 18L
ROG G22CH is 10L
ROG NUC is 2.5L
@ASUSUSA If these things have good thermals and are reliable, I'd pay the asking price. I'm probably your target consumer.
@@ASUSUSA Hows the gaking going ?
@@ASUSUSA Me "Buys a identical spec laptop for $1300. Take off the screen. Voila a mini pc!"
Some of these mini pcs are so expensive you're better off buying a laptop to set next to your monitor.
It's more a home console to play on the couch. A normal desktop is too big in a living room. But yeah it's expensive.
@@Thesavagesouls So put a laptop next to your TV. I wasn’t just thinking about this particular product, but mid-to-high performance mini-PCs in general. Most are at least as expensive as a comparably equipped laptop.
@@Thesavagesouls if that's the case, why not just buy a console for like a third or even one fourth the price?
@@ThomasCaiJinzhan Well....because a console isn't a PC 🙄
Hrrm... I'd rather build an ITX with a dedicated video card.... or a laptop. If it was cheaper I'd buy it.
Its like laptop without display n keyboard, but price like g16 strix, damn intel
It's actually the only device that lets 1 series processor to run at 100+W TDP continuously(so far). Might be interesting for someone, but pointless for the most people
Blame the ROG tax, NOT Intel.
@@LucienneGainsborough bcuz who is gonna pay 1700 for a 4060 16gb ram and 512 ssd
Asus purchased the nuc division from Intel, the price is all on Asus here...
I dont care, intel and asus same shit greedy
It's too expensive.
I'm going to answer like a zoomer ready!
What are you poor or something?
@@Asfanboy1 It is still a valid point though... you can get the Thunderobot Mix, which is almost a like for like copy of this NUC, only using a 13900H CPU (same performance as the Ultra 185H, maybe even marginally beter), only costs half the price. It's quite an upsell for the brand name.
But I like watching these techpron videos of things I can’t afford.
can build a better pc with that type of cash...this will obvious won't go well in sales. Wait till Dec, they will either slash price or simply stop its prodcution
@OverGrownApe_001 I didn't
And that's 1 month of pay here for a lot of people
You can get 4070 laptops for $1500 so this feels like it's very poorly priced. Sure it's going to perform better because it doesn't have the same power restrictions and the cooling on this is probably better, but still I feel like this should maximum be $1500 because they've cut the screen, battery, camera, etc.
I don't know what they're doing with that. This thing is far too expensive. The graphics seemed underwhelming, and my understanding is that the laptop graphics chips from Nvidia use model numbers on laptops that correspond to the next lower desktop card, so that this 4070 performs as a 4060 desktop does (putting form factor and cooling aside). And this i9 laptop is more like a i5 desktop.
Close, the 4060 ti is the tier below the mobile 4070 and is close in performance. Nvidia's naming scheme is very dumb and intentionally misleading
Close. 4070 laptop is a 3070 equivalent
Hey atleast the 4060 performs very close to its desktop counter part. Like 5% differences.
Would've justified the price of thy slapped a full power mobile 4090 in their and more storage
Can't wait to get this 5 years from now!
very true lol. way too expensive right now
Did Asus, or anybody else, build a machine like this five years ago that is available for pennies today?
Yes Intel nucs are affordable now
That looks awesome! Let me see the Canadian price!
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$2200 for the base 4060 model, $2999 for the 4070...
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Le sigh.
i hear you. The price of these things, inspite of their awesome size and form factor, always humbles back down to reality when I realize what you could be getting for the same price in a mini itx desktop
Hmm let me look at the Australian price $3499, $4299... strewth!!
RNUC 14SRKU 7168 AUI : ASUS (estore) price $1,629.00
RNUC 14SRKU 9189 AUI : ASUS (estore) price $2,199.00
Ouch ...
@@markrotondella4689 Yikes, and the AUD is worth almost the same as the CAD 😬
Hmm let me look at vietnam price !
41.000.000 vnd for the base 4060 .... wait what the f ? Why this shit is so expensive ?
Again the price doesn't align with the specs. You can get a similarly configured gaming laptop for under $1500, and you get a screen, battery, keyboard, and speakers thrown in for good measure.
Why would you compare it to a laptop when it's clearly a desktop
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 Because it's using a laptop CPU, GPU, RAM, and power supply? It's literally a laptop in a different form factor with less stuff.
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 bro watch the vidéo again. It uses freaking laptop components 😂
Intel Core Ultra 9, RTX 4070 Mobile, ... etc
But I don't understand why this cost more than a similar spec'd laptop while having less stuff ( screen, keyboard and trackpad, battery,...)
Consider the recent track record of ASUS I would not buy anything from them until they proven to be trustworthy once again. I still have my rog ally with faulty sd card slot, I made wise decision didn't sent rma otherwise my ally might be one of those been hold hostage.
Bruh, that CPU hit 103c in cyberpunk
Fantastic... until we got to the 8gb of vram instead of 12gb. Hard pass.
For someone who is clueless with PCs, can you explain why?
@@gatesroyale I don't know whats currently the most acceptable amount of VRAM but 8 in 2024 for new titles can be fairly underwhelming. Most newer cards are like 20s-30GB area of VRAM. If you are not very into the PC scene, might be best to keep clear of a product like this for now. it looks cool but is very niche.
Once again, You might as well get a regular gaming desktop. For the same price You'll get double the RAM & SSD space with the same graphics and performance. Mini-PCs are SUPPOSED to be cheaper, but the ones being reviewed on here never are.
Eta prime has been doing this for years it's his thing.
@Runescope i'm fine paying more for a more compact computer with higher density parts and lower power consumption. But I draw the line at laptops. There is no reason this should be more expensive than already overpriced laptops.
This thing might have better cooling capabilities. So yes, a comparable laptop might be same performance, but will sound like a turbine.
@@Bajicoy if it had a laptop 4090 would've considered the price but even then it still seems to expensive especially when it doesn't have a keyboard, monitor or mouse lol
Who told you that Mini-PCs are "SUPPOSED" to be cheaper?
ASUS: Did you just download Armory Crate? AND change our fan curves when we had them set to a automatic setting? Warranty voided because you pressed the power button.
Did you open the box at all? Warranty. voided.
Armoury Crate is the bane of my existence.
Helldivers 2 does not support DLSS.
It's not DLSS, it's their own scaling, but has nothing to do with artificial upscaling.......
Not worth the money at al. Better buy a laptop plus an eGPU for better performence at the same price.
300W NUC, from ASUS. Nice :))) firefighter's dream.
Shame on you Asus. This is a money grab scam. I'll build a steam machine with the same specs for $800.
The day when this channel reviews something I find affordable :D
Yeah. Not the same ETAPrime I signed up for all those years ago...
Spoken like someone that randomly landed on the video and doesn't watch most of ETA's videos
@@mechanicalmonk2020 ok you might have $1000 to buy a handheld that give you PS3 graphics, but I do not.
@@mechanicalmonk2020 One things for sure. Even when it's ASUS, when you look at their web site for the 4060 + 4070 versions, they aren't available. That rarely changes.
@@ghostfreckle I remember the raspberry PI videos.
Yeah, this thing is so confusing. You can get the 2024 4070 G14 with an awesome OLED, great speakers, good form factor, 32GB RAM for $1999 new through BestBuy in the US. That laptop also being an ASUS product, portable, with a battery, keyboard, screen, what in the world is the point of this computer, barring the Intel Ultra 9?
try the AtomMan X7 Ti... half that price.
rog nuc w/ core ultra 9 185H + mobile rtx 4070 8gb + 32gb ram + 512gb ssd: $2199
literally the exact same specs but with only 16gb ram in the zephyrus g16 laptop with battery+16" 240hz OLED+keyboard built-in: $1999
..yeah you're getting ripped off, this thing needs to be $400 cheaper at minimum
Costs more than a laptop with the same specs and it’s much thicker than a laptop plus it doesn’t have a screen / keyboard / battery / trackpad built in, the price doesn’t make sense
Overpriced
Better to buy GAMING LAPTOP with i9 and RTX 4080, 4090 for this price and we get bonus KEYBOARD inbuilt and a screen as well as well as speakers and a touchpad as well.... And maybe we can get OLED or MINI LED at that price
Misspelled Helldivers as Halldivers in the description.
Love the video though!
They're different games. One is about being a middle schooler trying to sneak around during class to smoke cigarettes in the bathroom and avoiding Hall Monitors.
Probably just get a laptop at this point for less and spend what you saved towards the monitor.
You could, but most laptops hard limit the TDP on the CPU/GPU since the cooling and battery wouldn't be about to keep up. So you'd never get the most out of it
@ColorblindMonk it would be fine a 4090 laptop can keep up with most desktops today easily
This is exactly what I said for the price this is you can get a laptop with a great screen (like asus own g16) that will perform very similar and have a oled screen for the same price if not less.
@@ColorblindMonk Anyone looking into this sorta pre-built probably isn't going to be the getting-the-most-out-of-it "type" anyway, I reckon.
Maybe It's just me, But the practicality gains to reap by picking a laptop over this far outweigh the relatively miniscule performance difference (I reckon) you'd end up with.
Also, Depending on what machine we're talking about, I can't seem to convince myself to think this thing cools itself any better than a comparative laptop.
For those of you who don't want little boys gaming aesthetics or crazy asus prices there's a case called the fractal design ridge that'll fit an ITX motherboard, psu, and a graphics card in what looks to be about the size of a PS5. You'd think assembling a PC is difficult but you save so much more than the effort tax will buy, and it gives you something fun to do and customize
Yeah man the Ridge is a cool case. Takes a lot of research but I have a liquid cooled 7900xtx / 7800x3D in mine built for 2K/4K gaming. Highly recommend for couch gamers.
The cpu hit 103 degrees at 58% cpu usage!! Just throw into the bin this 2000$ low quality plastic crap!
Hopefully this is more reliable than some of their other stuff. Had fans and all sorts crap out on me, with asus gear.
i have a 12 year old asus laptop that was submerged in a flood then thrown at a wall. it still works. Asus has been a beast for me
Cool, overpriced with questionable warranty support! What more could you want?
I utterly refuse to purchase anything from ASUS until they get their act together. this item is far to expensive and their warranty process is a joke.
Anything ROG is a big NO from me, I do not wish to see how my RMA doesn't pass because of ASUS...
You could just repair it yourself or pay someone else that can.
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 you do understand you are paying "asus tax" and getting worse warranty coverage than you can with "cheaper" brands, right?
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 Well that is the issue, in EU there is a law for RMA and warranty, and Asus is not following the law, why should I pay and repair issues that ASUS created and doesn't want to fix...
Truthfully they used to be the top company, and I really loved them, but after the issue with my 3070 ROG and being unable to get a refund for a broken card (that was bought straight from Asus) I honestly can't trust them, and then after the GamerNexus video about the same thing the opinion of them just disappeared totally. They are as trustworthy as the politicians...
I’ve subscribed to this channel not too long ago because I’m working on a cyberdeck. I feel consumed by capitalism just by looking at your videos.
Oh hey same
@@AnonUserAgain Great! Do you mind sharing what you use? I guess a raspberry Pi 5?
ASUS. Ew.
So this is just a laptop without the screen and keyboard but with better cooling for more money...
Don't forget you can't turn it on without being plugged.
@@threeequalsd4865 👍
Much as I do like mini-PCs and this one really does have a nice aesthetic, but I think the manufacturers are really missing the mark with the pricing.
if it cost the same, if not more, than an equivalent high end laptop with the same specs, what is the point of buying the mini-PC?
It needs to be cheaper by at least the price of the keyboard, mouse, monitor and speakers/headphone you don't get.
$2200 for the 4070 version 😳
And you still only get 16gb RAM and 512gb SSD
I'm not the brokest broke boy, but this should be $1500 MAX and that's pushing it.
Special use case, indeed. For me the size savings isn't worth forking out the $2100. Not even close. Especially not to a company like ASUS given their antics as of late. I think i'd rather just put something together in a Fractal Terra for a little bit larger of a footprint and have individual component upgradability to boot.
It's $1650 when an ASUS TUF RTX 4070 laptop with more options like a screen on it go for ~$1050 on sale right now. So you pay $600 more for what?
They need to make a mass market $199 TV box. If all these companies can make a $500 handheld with an expensive battery and touch screen, and all the other extra components like buttons, speakers, mics, gyros, etc, I am sure someone can put out a decent AMD APU box for $199 and still make a profit.
The NUC product have always been garbage - now worse than ever. Loud, hot, non-upgradable.
Intel is struggling with awful IPC and thermals compared to the competition.
Nvidia is claiming that this is a 4070 when in reality it is a desktop 4060 (which is actually a 4050 looking at bus, die size, and die name). 8gb vram in 2024 is pathetic. The 1070 came with the same 8gb for $380... EIGHT years ago.
ASUS warranty and customer support. No need to explain further.
It is the perfect storm of terrible. $2.k+ 🤣🤦🏻♂
Why would anyone buy this. Its so overpriced compared to what you get.
Who in the right mind would buy this!!!! First, Asus customer service sucks. The price and performance for this is insane. You could buy a full fledged PC build in a mini tower for the same price or even cheaper.
Asus armour crate for desktops PCs is much different then from ally
Asus software is horrible, installing Asus armour crate has about 15-20+ background tasks that run all the time.
A lot of bloat.
Too expensive... and with a laptop GPU....
It feels like Asus just wants to spend its old GPU stockpile as things are getting upgraded to the TI version. It's a no from me...
Minisforum HX99G brilliant performance and much better value. Almost £1500 cheaper!!
I am NOT giving Asus $2000 dollars for anything. Hell no. Nope. I don't care how good it is.
my homemade budget mini pc with 3d printed case using desktop hardware uses bearly 100 watts during gaming
how did you get your 3d printed case though
@@bluetech2809 i designed my own and printed it
Bruh at that price just build a 3.5l mini pc with a lp rtx 4060 you’ll pay around $1000 lol
Price is a joke
Did you mean A price tag over the rest 😂?
Will it be good for Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 which will be release on November 19th, 2024?
Extremely overpriced, lately your content looks like a paid advertiser. Nothing budget-friendly or the root of retro. So it is an unsub, time to look for new and better retro content creators.
why are you shilling for this bs - that system is awful value, you can get far better both laptops and desktops for far less
Pretty solid. Price is a bit high considering it's basically one of their laptops without a screen.
Just a bit high? More like ridiculously high 😂
This thing should be $1500 at best
Omg 😮
At best it should be $800
At worst $1200
This is always my feeling on small form factor gaming based on laptop tech. Why not just get a laptop?
Now we are talking ! ... RTX power 🦾
OG Skyrim, we're having mammoth steaks 🥩🤤
😂🤣
92 C° with 38% cpu usage..
nothing more to say.
Can someone please reply to me with a link that sells the smallest PC with at least a 4070ti super desktop card
Would Be perfect for a person like me who lives in a tiny studio, but not for no freaking 2K
Dayummmm $2k,
Thats like 3 ROG Allys
If you consider the size, especially with the external power supply, you're better off building a mini ITX system with, for example, the Velka 3 case and you'll end up with about the same size and a better cooling system. Plus, it's easily half the price.
Keep it ,over priced quasie pc
Minisforum offers best value for price. rog is overrated.
Nice Video! Pair with some camping battery pack and an external display and your are good to go!!
1600 bucks?…. Hmmm I’ll pass.
I can not speak of the quality but the thunderobot mix has basically the exact same specs for way cheaper i believe the 4070 version is only like 1200£
I'm looking forward to buy one of these two. The Thunderobot is indeed cheaper, but I strongly believe that Asus has some way better internal built overall. Maybe not better enough to justify the price.
@@legacytournament I would say asus quality would be better atm I am not sure with the Asus rog ally having problems only for Asus to deny it even under warranty
I have a question, i have never used nvenc or any mini pc and want to buy one purely as dedicated streaming pc. Plan is to multistream and use for encoding/recording triple AAA titles in 1080p 60fps or 1440p and maybe 4k. I want to use NVenc AV1 as encoder so want to make sure this can easily can handle everything.
I'm thinking about getting of these to replace my 2021 desktop PC that has a 3080... I like a dedicated gaming system without much fan noise, this could be a very ncie little desktop to do some speedruns on!
Who has $2200 for gaming PC and decides this is what they buy? I spend stupid money on handheld PCs, but you can get a 4080 desktop for this money. 🤷🏽♂️
out of stock
Man what I didn’t know this even existed before and now it’s out of stock? Come on man
Okay, listen to me: I recently bought the NUC 12 Enthusiasts (32Gb+1T) for $900 and compared to the ROG NUC:
- x0.8 CPU strength (12700H)
- x0.7 GPU strength at x1.33 VRAM (Arc A770M 16Gb)
- TWO USB4 ports. I was surprised to see only 1 port on this ROG NUC
- Same 330W power brick
What do you think? I think $3000 for this generation of NUC is batsh*t crazy!
How well does the Arc 770M generally do? I hear it's surprisingly good in some places, of course lacking in others. I don't have a good read on the general place where it stands.
@@SwordfighterRed Short answer:
- A770M is a full desktop A770, just running at lower TDP. This is the main reason when I bought the NUC.
- 1080p60 Ultra or 1440p60 High (except unoptimized AAA titles)
- Frame time: some stutters/1 hour of gaming.
- Bugs: I encountered some, can get annoying. Reinstall drivers to fix.
I will give a longer answer below. I felt the same ambiguity before buying intel ARC so I want to share too.
@@SwordfighterRed Long answer: potentially, the A770(M) is a sleeping beast, packed with raw hardware power. However, it depends on driver support of intel & developers into the future. For example: I recently finished Uncharted 4, a DX12 game, on my NUC at 1080p Ultra averaging around 70fps. Starfield, another DX12 game, runs at 20-30fps regardless of 2K or 4K resolution. You get the idea.
Outside gaming, it's also ridiculously good at video editing. I use CapCut to make vertical videos and 4K scrubbing is flawless, rendering is fast (1m30s video = 15s). Video editing is perfection with Arc cards because intel plays well with Adobe and DaVinci and such. On the other hand, it is hard to deploy AI models because there is little support, requiring even more workarounds than AMD cards. It's pretty power efficient though.
In conclusion, right now A770M = 3060, potentially it can sit between a 4060 ti and a 4070, and we are talking about a mobile card with desktop capabilities. Yet again it depends so much on the future of Alchemist/Battlemage support. Essentially I'm betting on the A770M based on the fact that intel is still making cards such as A580/A750. Hopefully it serves me for a long time.
With a gaming system that small, I don't mind it being a lil thicker for better cooling.
It's a laptop with no screen, no keyboard, no touchpad, and no battery. They even cheapened out by using a generic charger. And for twice the price of a comparable laptop...
What's the point of inserting in this case Intel i9?! Even in games, it reaches 100+ degrees in your video... Madness.
LOL 2.2k for laptop 4070 XD Just put together 4080 Super 64Gb 4TB in a slightly bigger case for 2k XD They got me once with XGM 4090 and then killed it LOL I am done with ASUS....
Wow... Oculink much? Why would you limit yourself with a machine that has no Thunderbolt, let alone Oculink. External GPU's are the future. This machine is outdated immediately. Compare to AtomMan X7 Ti... or if you love Ryzen, the MINISFORUM UM890 that ships at the end of July.
Too expensive and terrible IO. A NUC brand shouldn't carry any less than 2x Thunderbolt 4 ports. Also the NUCs of YORE which I'm looking at (not typing on) right now, has 3 display ports, 2 thunderbolts, 6 USB ports, full sized SD reader as well.
Even not mention price. Why do I need 16 core cpu for gaming? For SFFs like this - 8 cores with SMT is more then enough, so something like 7800x3d can be the king of the hill. As I understand Asus - 7945HX3D was overkill and its not "modern", so the used that strange Core Ultra 1xx chips. They dont even support pci-e 5.0 nvme, all 8 v5 lanes is for GPU. All in all - strange config, that was chosen by marketing department. Modular SFF with descrete components can do better with lower price being a little bigger but estetically much nicer than this coffin with RGB
Seems to be way too expensive when compared with similarly configured ASUS gaming laptop. For 4060 model around $1,300 USD. With no battery, LCD, keyboard. NUC should be way cheaper than laptop, around $1,000. No buy.
4:12 100c degrees on the cpu, brand new looks dangerous. when you get some dust inside the throtlling will be inminent .
I usually say NUCSs cost the same or more than similar spec laptop but I can't find it. The cheapest equivalent laptop I found is $200 more. I did a quick DIY build at newegg which costs $1310-the NUC $300 more not surprising but then again less difference than I expected. I thought the DIY would cost around just above $1k.
As the web site doesn't mention the GPU between the different versions. I'm assuming it's the $2200.00 version. TWENTY TWO HUNDRED BUCKS. It's a one trick pony unless you want to hook up a eGPU in the future. Ridiculous.
The Ultimate Mini PC until his next video tops it off.
Problem with this gaming NUC is the same as all the previous gaming NUCs, they're just expensive for the parts inside them. If it's anything like NUCs past (like skull canyon) they're both dropped on the same board, it's an entirely custom setup. So they have to charge so much to get their profits out of it that it makes it really hard to justify.
Yeah for price I would go with the ASUS NUC 14 Pro+. Granted it means I would lose the 4070 and would have to use the Integrated - Intel®Arc™ Graphics
Hey ETA did you forget to do a walk through of the ports on this mini pc
I don't the idea behind this product. Not with that kind of price when I can just get something like Zephyrus G16 with 4080 in my country, that has fricking OLED display, awesome speakers, and better GPU 😂. Then dock it on my desktop setup to basically get a better setup at a better price.
I have this in the form of a ROG Zephyrus G16 with the same cpu and same gpu.
I paid $1600 for it and it's probably going back.
What is Asus thinking here? Just buy a G16?
As with anything their will be a sale or discount on one of these or when new cpu and cards come out the last gen will be the discount. This is the right way to purchase anything be it laptop, Pc or something like this... I have the GC22CH and in general happy with it and it does have the built in Power Supply. As it sits pretty much smallest prebuilt you can buy with built in Power Supply. Only Negative is fans are always loud... if this was quiet when no gaming I would be very happy and I am the type of customer to buy it... The GC22 wihty a 3060 I paid 1199 pre tax and then very unhappy to see it get down to 849.00 on Amazon 2 months later before prices went back up. You just have to check pricing daily on these kind of things till it hits a buy.
Do you realize that people build real desktop PCs with proper desktop components in that form factor? Unlike this mobile components crap. It's even better to buy a laptop with same specs than this overpriced junk.
one more thing RTX 4070 mobile is even slower than RTX 3070 desktop lol
These mini gaming PC's are just always priced wrong in my opinion. I think the target audience for these things are laptop gamers that would like some extra performance and the ability to have a bigger than 15-17 inch screen. However, these mini gaming PCs are priced like they assume you're replacing a tower PC with it and you already own a monitor and keyboard. If the RTX4070 version was priced around even $1700, I could maybe ditch my gaming laptop. However, if I'm going to get the same performance as a laptop, why wouldn't I just buy a laptop where I don't have to worry about buying a monitor too. At $1700 I can get a good monitor for less than $2000 total. Although, I'm losing the portability factor which should factor into the price too. To me, this PC is meant for someone ok with laptop performance, but would like a bigger screen without having to connect a separate screen to their laptop since that starts to take up a bit more space. If you got the space for that you probably have the space for a small tower. I dunno. I just don't understand who these PCs are really for. At the price they sell them, you're better off just getting a laptop since you'll probably get the same performance. If you have the room for a tower then you can get better performance for less money. I mean, is anyone that already has a tower PC of any size, moving to this on their next upgrade? On the flip side, I could see a laptop user making that switch... at the right price. Otherwise, they're just going to get another laptop.
Who is this even marketed to? Its $2200. Shouldn't you like... just get a regular gaming PC tower for that price?