You guys get fucked in the UK... They just take the USD price and throw your money symbol on it 😆 would literally be cheaper for you guys to just import from America with shipping than buying it in the UK
@@paulgilmartin5675 I didn't catch any pricing conveniently in the video. From what I can see, it's about £1740 (prices will vary by site). But it is basically just a 4070 laptop with the screen, keyboard and trackpad removed. You can buy an RTX 4070 laptop for about £600 less. So you're paying a 50% premium for them to give you less stuff.
ASUS warranty issues were almost entirely in communication and upsells. They're not credibly accused of actually denying valid warranty work. The communication makes it sound like you have to agree to the upsell to get the legitimate work. But if you declined they still did the required work. Still shady. But not nearly as bad as some people make it out to be. The far bigger problem is turn around times longer than a month. So most people would have to buy a second computer anyway.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Did you not see Steve's video where ASUS threatened to return his game in pieces if he didn't pay the several hundred dollars to "fix" the slight blemish on the exterior plastic? When he sent it in for a bad joystick that they didn't even mention?
@fred_derf Yes, I did. And I've read many other accounts as well. In none of them was the console returned in pieces. And in all of them the required warranty work was done correctly. The problem is 100% with communication and 0% with actually performing warranty work.
It's actually the only device that lets 1 series processor to run at 100+W TDP continuously(so far). Might be interesting for someone, but pointless for the most people
@@Asfanboy1 It is still a valid point though... you can get the Thunderobot Mix, which is almost a like for like copy of this NUC, only using a 13900H CPU (same performance as the Ultra 185H, maybe even marginally beter), only costs half the price. It's quite an upsell for the brand name.
can build a better pc with that type of cash...this will obvious won't go well in sales. Wait till Dec, they will either slash price or simply stop its prodcution
Thanks for your feedback pricing is a difficult to directly compared as you are talking about a unique product in the market. You will not find custom DIY options that you can build in a 2.5L form factor and offer this performance while still maintaining high speed IO and ease of upgrades for items like DRAM and STORAGE. The unique design requires custom design through from the chassis, motherboard and more. In this respect it offers compelling option for those who want a high performance gaming PC in a compact profile but without the challenges or complexity of a DIY system. We of course advocate and offer a comprehensive ecosystem for those who favor DIY and want to high control component selection and try to also reduce price aggressively by increasing size, selecting compromises on some components ( such as you will not find entry mini ITX boards with TB connecvitiy or support for three M.2 SSDs ). In the end this product just like our DIY ecosystem of products is not intended for every user but more so just like DIY options as well as laptops, gaming handhelds and more are target to specific users who value the total design, features, functions and specifications. Hope this provides some insight in the ROG NUC and its pricing. Lastly if you want a similar option albeit with a larger form factor you can a consider the ROG G22CH which is still compact and carries a lower MSRP but is larger. Traditional mini PC chassis are 15 to 18L ROG G22CH is 10L ROG NUC is 2.5L
@@ASUSUSA the whole point of this PC is to cut the price comparing with a laptop with similar specs. But it ended up this mini PC is pointless for such price because of you can purchase even better specs laptop for the same price and it is about the same size, can be used the same way, but also has a screen, keyboard, acoustics, TouchPad, battery, etc.
@@mechanicalmonk2020 One things for sure. Even when it's ASUS, when you look at their web site for the 4060 + 4070 versions, they aren't available. That rarely changes.
@@Thesavagesouls So put a laptop next to your TV. I wasn’t just thinking about this particular product, but mid-to-high performance mini-PCs in general. Most are at least as expensive as a comparably equipped laptop.
i hear you. The price of these things, inspite of their awesome size and form factor, always humbles back down to reality when I realize what you could be getting for the same price in a mini itx desktop
Once again, You might as well get a regular gaming desktop. For the same price You'll get double the RAM & SSD space with the same graphics and performance. Mini-PCs are SUPPOSED to be cheaper, but the ones being reviewed on here never are.
@Runescope i'm fine paying more for a more compact computer with higher density parts and lower power consumption. But I draw the line at laptops. There is no reason this should be more expensive than already overpriced laptops.
@@Bajicoy if it had a laptop 4090 would've considered the price but even then it still seems to expensive especially when it doesn't have a keyboard, monitor or mouse lol
ASUS: Did you just download Armory Crate? AND change our fan curves when we had them set to a automatic setting? Warranty voided because you pressed the power button.
I don't know what they're doing with that. This thing is far too expensive. The graphics seemed underwhelming, and my understanding is that the laptop graphics chips from Nvidia use model numbers on laptops that correspond to the next lower desktop card, so that this 4070 performs as a 4060 desktop does (putting form factor and cooling aside). And this i9 laptop is more like a i5 desktop.
for those in need of such shape, its a good pick, very powerful and reliable for example tiny desk offices, tv room, aestethic themed room, hidden hardware themed etc2
If you consider the size, especially with the external power supply, you're better off building a mini ITX system with, for example, the Velka 3 case and you'll end up with about the same size and a better cooling system. Plus, it's easily half the price.
For those of you who don't want little boys gaming aesthetics or crazy asus prices there's a case called the fractal design ridge that'll fit an ITX motherboard, psu, and a graphics card in what looks to be about the size of a PS5. You'd think assembling a PC is difficult but you save so much more than the effort tax will buy, and it gives you something fun to do and customize
Yeah man the Ridge is a cool case. Takes a lot of research but I have a liquid cooled 7900xtx / 7800x3D in mine built for 2K/4K gaming. Highly recommend for couch gamers.
They're different games. One is about being a middle schooler trying to sneak around during class to smoke cigarettes in the bathroom and avoiding Hall Monitors.
You can get 4070 laptops for $1500 so this feels like it's very poorly priced. Sure it's going to perform better because it doesn't have the same power restrictions and the cooling on this is probably better, but still I feel like this should maximum be $1500 because they've cut the screen, battery, camera, etc.
They need to make a mass market $199 TV box. If all these companies can make a $500 handheld with an expensive battery and touch screen, and all the other extra components like buttons, speakers, mics, gyros, etc, I am sure someone can put out a decent AMD APU box for $199 and still make a profit.
Much as I do like mini-PCs and this one really does have a nice aesthetic, but I think the manufacturers are really missing the mark with the pricing. if it cost the same, if not more, than an equivalent high end laptop with the same specs, what is the point of buying the mini-PC? It needs to be cheaper by at least the price of the keyboard, mouse, monitor and speakers/headphone you don't get.
Again the price doesn't align with the specs. You can get a similarly configured gaming laptop for under $1500, and you get a screen, battery, keyboard, and speakers thrown in for good measure.
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 Because it's using a laptop CPU, GPU, RAM, and power supply? It's literally a laptop in a different form factor with less stuff.
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 bro watch the vidéo again. It uses freaking laptop components 😂 Intel Core Ultra 9, RTX 4070 Mobile, ... etc But I don't understand why this cost more than a similar spec'd laptop while having less stuff ( screen, keyboard and trackpad, battery,...)
Yeah, this thing is so confusing. You can get the 2024 4070 G14 with an awesome OLED, great speakers, good form factor, 32GB RAM for $1999 new through BestBuy in the US. That laptop also being an ASUS product, portable, with a battery, keyboard, screen, what in the world is the point of this computer, barring the Intel Ultra 9?
For that price you can get a laptop with same or better specs; for those that wanted the space ssving aspect. If space isn't an issue then a desktop build with similar specs can be built for cheaper too. Dunno what Asus is thinking with the pricing on both models. Edit: typos
I personally would like to have seen it compared to the keyboard so I could see how “mini” it actually is. It didn’t actually look that small. To me, it looked like it was thicker than my daughter’s HP-360 2n1, but the other dimensions looked the same.
I usually say NUCSs cost the same or more than similar spec laptop but I can't find it. The cheapest equivalent laptop I found is $200 more. I did a quick DIY build at newegg which costs $1310-the NUC $300 more not surprising but then again less difference than I expected. I thought the DIY would cost around just above $1k.
I can not speak of the quality but the thunderobot mix has basically the exact same specs for way cheaper i believe the 4070 version is only like 1200£
I'm looking forward to buy one of these two. The Thunderobot is indeed cheaper, but I strongly believe that Asus has some way better internal built overall. Maybe not better enough to justify the price.
@@legacytournament I would say asus quality would be better atm I am not sure with the Asus rog ally having problems only for Asus to deny it even under warranty
Hoping for a PC physical media comeback in SD format with these card readers. Like inserting a SD card in stream deck and games appearing in the library. Impressive for the size. Wonder how those low power cores and the iGPU perform for older stuff using less energy.
I would love to see proper support (including vendor' software) for Linux on this kind of device. For me it's might me a new gen of Steam Machines when Valve will realese SteamOS for every device.
Special use case, indeed. For me the size savings isn't worth forking out the $2100. Not even close. Especially not to a company like ASUS given their antics as of late. I think i'd rather just put something together in a Fractal Terra for a little bit larger of a footprint and have individual component upgradability to boot.
Great mini pc. One thing I don't understand way this ultra mini pc makers don't just add a dedicated infrared and Bluetooth fly mouse remote control. At this point i just wanna replace my streaming device and just have a all in one device for gaming, streaming and computer on my tv.
Okay, listen to me: I recently bought the NUC 12 Enthusiasts (32Gb+1T) for $900 and compared to the ROG NUC: - x0.8 CPU strength (12700H) - x0.7 GPU strength at x1.33 VRAM (Arc A770M 16Gb) - TWO USB4 ports. I was surprised to see only 1 port on this ROG NUC - Same 330W power brick What do you think? I think $3000 for this generation of NUC is batsh*t crazy!
How well does the Arc 770M generally do? I hear it's surprisingly good in some places, of course lacking in others. I don't have a good read on the general place where it stands.
@@SwordfighterRed Short answer: - A770M is a full desktop A770, just running at lower TDP. This is the main reason when I bought the NUC. - 1080p60 Ultra or 1440p60 High (except unoptimized AAA titles) - Frame time: some stutters/1 hour of gaming. - Bugs: I encountered some, can get annoying. Reinstall drivers to fix. I will give a longer answer below. I felt the same ambiguity before buying intel ARC so I want to share too.
@@SwordfighterRed Long answer: potentially, the A770(M) is a sleeping beast, packed with raw hardware power. However, it depends on driver support of intel & developers into the future. For example: I recently finished Uncharted 4, a DX12 game, on my NUC at 1080p Ultra averaging around 70fps. Starfield, another DX12 game, runs at 20-30fps regardless of 2K or 4K resolution. You get the idea. Outside gaming, it's also ridiculously good at video editing. I use CapCut to make vertical videos and 4K scrubbing is flawless, rendering is fast (1m30s video = 15s). Video editing is perfection with Arc cards because intel plays well with Adobe and DaVinci and such. On the other hand, it is hard to deploy AI models because there is little support, requiring even more workarounds than AMD cards. It's pretty power efficient though. In conclusion, right now A770M = 3060, potentially it can sit between a 4060 ti and a 4070, and we are talking about a mobile card with desktop capabilities. Yet again it depends so much on the future of Alchemist/Battlemage support. Essentially I'm betting on the A770M based on the fact that intel is still making cards such as A580/A750. Hopefully it serves me for a long time.
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 Well that is the issue, in EU there is a law for RMA and warranty, and Asus is not following the law, why should I pay and repair issues that ASUS created and doesn't want to fix... Truthfully they used to be the top company, and I really loved them, but after the issue with my 3070 ROG and being unable to get a refund for a broken card (that was bought straight from Asus) I honestly can't trust them, and then after the GamerNexus video about the same thing the opinion of them just disappeared totally. They are as trustworthy as the politicians...
@@gatesroyale I don't know whats currently the most acceptable amount of VRAM but 8 in 2024 for new titles can be fairly underwhelming. Most newer cards are like 20s-30GB area of VRAM. If you are not very into the PC scene, might be best to keep clear of a product like this for now. it looks cool but is very niche.
As with anything their will be a sale or discount on one of these or when new cpu and cards come out the last gen will be the discount. This is the right way to purchase anything be it laptop, Pc or something like this... I have the GC22CH and in general happy with it and it does have the built in Power Supply. As it sits pretty much smallest prebuilt you can buy with built in Power Supply. Only Negative is fans are always loud... if this was quiet when no gaming I would be very happy and I am the type of customer to buy it... The GC22 wihty a 3060 I paid 1199 pre tax and then very unhappy to see it get down to 849.00 on Amazon 2 months later before prices went back up. You just have to check pricing daily on these kind of things till it hits a buy.
Problem with this gaming NUC is the same as all the previous gaming NUCs, they're just expensive for the parts inside them. If it's anything like NUCs past (like skull canyon) they're both dropped on the same board, it's an entirely custom setup. So they have to charge so much to get their profits out of it that it makes it really hard to justify.
Nice! I'm hoping as we get more traditional manufacturers making these gaming Mini PCs it will help get us more options. I'm still leaning towards a Mini PC future when it's time to replace my current desktop, the space savings and power savings have become tempting enough for the trade off in power
Interesting. A radeon 780m in a magician minipc will cost you about 500. Sure its not as good but price quality and you are golden. Im still doubting a minipc or laptop. Secondhand all same price. And most important it can play all the games.
Hey ETA PRIME, great video like always. I have a question, which mini-PC do you think is better the ROG NUC 970 or the Mix Mini Game Box? Looking at your videos on both, I would realy appreciate your input on which you consider the best for gaming.
I'm thinking about getting of these to replace my 2021 desktop PC that has a 3080... I like a dedicated gaming system without much fan noise, this could be a very ncie little desktop to do some speedruns on!
rog nuc w/ core ultra 9 185H + mobile rtx 4070 8gb + 32gb ram + 512gb ssd: $2199 literally the exact same specs but with only 16gb ram in the zephyrus g16 laptop with battery+16" 240hz OLED+keyboard built-in: $1999 ..yeah you're getting ripped off, this thing needs to be $400 cheaper at minimum
Hey ETA, do you have any rwcommendations for a usb-c dock for running two 144 hrtz monitors using a gaming laptop? Doesn't seem like companies are making things like this wothout it costing the price of the laptop itself.
Well there is the Minisforum HX99G with Ryzen 9 6900HX + RX 6650M Xt 8GB of VRAM. Note that the RX6650M XT performs the same as its desktop counterpart. Waiting foe HX100G tho.
I have a question, i have never used nvenc or any mini pc and want to buy one purely as dedicated streaming pc. Plan is to multistream and use for encoding/recording triple AAA titles in 1080p 60fps or 1440p and maybe 4k. I want to use NVenc AV1 as encoder so want to make sure this can easily can handle everything.
I have this in the form of a ROG Zephyrus G16 with the same cpu and same gpu. I paid $1600 for it and it's probably going back. What is Asus thinking here? Just buy a G16?
I’ve been looking at your videos in search of the cheapest mini pc capable of running emulators up to ps3. Could you point me in the right direction? Many thanks.
Love ya ETA but the 4060 ti desktop outperforms the 4070 mobile by 20% (at least) you can easily build a mini pc setup with 4060 ti for far less and better performance
This is a cool small form factor mini gaming PC... And I get that it's a laptop variant GPU but I think it's so sad that it's a 4070 with only 8 gigabytes of RAM
This crap has 1k worth of hardware and costs 2.5k. ASUS once again proving how bad they are as a company.
Asus : open laptop design proposal, remove the screen,keyboard and battery, now we can charge more 😂
Yeah wtf like you can find comparable notebooks for 1600-1700 and this costs 50% more while having less components? Lmao
This sh*t is a scam 😂😂😂
Well what you expect a $500 mini PC that could game?
@@frankwong9486 it's sad cause I would love something like this behind my tv to play on my couch
Absolutely crazy price for the hardware inside.
....that said, how much is it in UK?
You guys get fucked in the UK... They just take the USD price and throw your money symbol on it 😆 would literally be cheaper for you guys to just import from America with shipping than buying it in the UK
@@paulgilmartin5675
I didn't catch any pricing conveniently in the video.
From what I can see, it's about £1740 (prices will vary by site).
But it is basically just a 4070 laptop with the screen, keyboard and trackpad removed.
You can buy an RTX 4070 laptop for about £600 less. So you're paying a 50% premium for them to give you less stuff.
Right! The Ultra 7 sku is priced crazy, but the $570 increase for the Ultra 9 with otherwise identical specs is insane.
what's the price ? says out of stock for me
Can't wait to get this 5 years from now!
very true lol. way too expensive right now
Did Asus, or anybody else, build a machine like this five years ago that is available for pennies today?
Yes Intel nucs are affordable now
ASUS Warranty: Your claim was denied because you added additional storage.
Nah that warranty left with the peel😂
And charged $500 to fix because it's got a tiny scratch!
ASUS warranty issues were almost entirely in communication and upsells. They're not credibly accused of actually denying valid warranty work. The communication makes it sound like you have to agree to the upsell to get the legitimate work. But if you declined they still did the required work.
Still shady. But not nearly as bad as some people make it out to be. The far bigger problem is turn around times longer than a month. So most people would have to buy a second computer anyway.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Did you not see Steve's video where ASUS threatened to return his game in pieces if he didn't pay the several hundred dollars to "fix" the slight blemish on the exterior plastic? When he sent it in for a bad joystick that they didn't even mention?
@fred_derf Yes, I did. And I've read many other accounts as well. In none of them was the console returned in pieces. And in all of them the required warranty work was done correctly. The problem is 100% with communication and 0% with actually performing warranty work.
Its like laptop without display n keyboard, but price like g16 strix, damn intel
It's actually the only device that lets 1 series processor to run at 100+W TDP continuously(so far). Might be interesting for someone, but pointless for the most people
Blame the ROG tax, NOT Intel.
@@LucienneGainsborough bcuz who is gonna pay 1700 for a 4060 16gb ram and 512 ssd
Asus purchased the nuc division from Intel, the price is all on Asus here...
I dont care, intel and asus same shit greedy
Customer: hi, sd card slot is not working
Asus: pay us $100 and ship at your cost and we will tell you the same thing
You forgot if you don’t pay up, they send it back in parts lol
Pay more than the PC to fix a microscopic dent on the side
lol
It's too expensive.
I'm going to answer like a zoomer ready!
What are you poor or something?
@@Asfanboy1 It is still a valid point though... you can get the Thunderobot Mix, which is almost a like for like copy of this NUC, only using a 13900H CPU (same performance as the Ultra 185H, maybe even marginally beter), only costs half the price. It's quite an upsell for the brand name.
But I like watching these techpron videos of things I can’t afford.
can build a better pc with that type of cash...this will obvious won't go well in sales. Wait till Dec, they will either slash price or simply stop its prodcution
@OverGrownApe_001 I didn't
And that's 1 month of pay here for a lot of people
Performance and form factor is awesome but the price is garbage.
Thanks for your feedback pricing is a difficult to directly compared as you are talking about a unique product in the market. You will not find custom DIY options that you can build in a 2.5L form factor and offer this performance while still maintaining high speed IO and ease of upgrades for items like DRAM and STORAGE.
The unique design requires custom design through from the chassis, motherboard and more.
In this respect it offers compelling option for those who want a high performance gaming PC in a compact profile but without the challenges or complexity of a DIY system. We of course advocate and offer a comprehensive ecosystem for those who favor DIY and want to high control component selection and try to also reduce price aggressively by increasing size, selecting compromises on some components ( such as you will not find entry mini ITX boards with TB connecvitiy or support for three M.2 SSDs ).
In the end this product just like our DIY ecosystem of products is not intended for every user but more so just like DIY options as well as laptops, gaming handhelds and more are target to specific users who value the total design, features, functions and specifications.
Hope this provides some insight in the ROG NUC and its pricing.
Lastly if you want a similar option albeit with a larger form factor you can a consider the ROG G22CH which is still compact and carries a lower MSRP but is larger.
Traditional mini PC chassis are 15 to 18L
ROG G22CH is 10L
ROG NUC is 2.5L
@ASUSUSA If these things have good thermals and are reliable, I'd pay the asking price. I'm probably your target consumer.
@@ASUSUSA Hows the gaking going ?
@@ASUSUSA Me "Buys a identical spec laptop for $1300. Take off the screen. Voila a mini pc!"
@@ASUSUSA the whole point of this PC is to cut the price comparing with a laptop with similar specs. But it ended up this mini PC is pointless for such price because of you can purchase even better specs laptop for the same price and it is about the same size, can be used the same way, but also has a screen, keyboard, acoustics, TouchPad, battery, etc.
The day when this channel reviews something I find affordable :D
Yeah. Not the same ETAPrime I signed up for all those years ago...
Spoken like someone that randomly landed on the video and doesn't watch most of ETA's videos
@@mechanicalmonk2020 ok you might have $1000 to buy a handheld that give you PS3 graphics, but I do not.
@@mechanicalmonk2020 One things for sure. Even when it's ASUS, when you look at their web site for the 4060 + 4070 versions, they aren't available. That rarely changes.
@@ghostfreckle I remember the raspberry PI videos.
Some of these mini pcs are so expensive you're better off buying a laptop to set next to your monitor.
It's more a home console to play on the couch. A normal desktop is too big in a living room. But yeah it's expensive.
@@Thesavagesouls So put a laptop next to your TV. I wasn’t just thinking about this particular product, but mid-to-high performance mini-PCs in general. Most are at least as expensive as a comparably equipped laptop.
@@Thesavagesouls if that's the case, why not just buy a console for like a third or even one fourth the price?
@@ThomasCaiJinzhan Well....because a console isn't a PC 🙄
Hrrm... I'd rather build an ITX with a dedicated video card.... or a laptop. If it was cheaper I'd buy it.
That looks awesome! Let me see the Canadian price!
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$2200 for the base 4060 model, $2999 for the 4070...
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Le sigh.
i hear you. The price of these things, inspite of their awesome size and form factor, always humbles back down to reality when I realize what you could be getting for the same price in a mini itx desktop
Hmm let me look at the Australian price $3499, $4299... strewth!!
RNUC 14SRKU 7168 AUI : ASUS (estore) price $1,629.00
RNUC 14SRKU 9189 AUI : ASUS (estore) price $2,199.00
Ouch ...
@@markrotondella4689 Yikes, and the AUD is worth almost the same as the CAD 😬
Hmm let me look at vietnam price !
41.000.000 vnd for the base 4060 .... wait what the f ? Why this shit is so expensive ?
Once again, You might as well get a regular gaming desktop. For the same price You'll get double the RAM & SSD space with the same graphics and performance. Mini-PCs are SUPPOSED to be cheaper, but the ones being reviewed on here never are.
Eta prime has been doing this for years it's his thing.
@Runescope i'm fine paying more for a more compact computer with higher density parts and lower power consumption. But I draw the line at laptops. There is no reason this should be more expensive than already overpriced laptops.
This thing might have better cooling capabilities. So yes, a comparable laptop might be same performance, but will sound like a turbine.
@@Bajicoy if it had a laptop 4090 would've considered the price but even then it still seems to expensive especially when it doesn't have a keyboard, monitor or mouse lol
Who told you that Mini-PCs are "SUPPOSED" to be cheaper?
ASUS: Did you just download Armory Crate? AND change our fan curves when we had them set to a automatic setting? Warranty voided because you pressed the power button.
Did you open the box at all? Warranty. voided.
Armoury Crate is the bane of my existence.
I don't know what they're doing with that. This thing is far too expensive. The graphics seemed underwhelming, and my understanding is that the laptop graphics chips from Nvidia use model numbers on laptops that correspond to the next lower desktop card, so that this 4070 performs as a 4060 desktop does (putting form factor and cooling aside). And this i9 laptop is more like a i5 desktop.
Close, the 4060 ti is the tier below the mobile 4070 and is close in performance. Nvidia's naming scheme is very dumb and intentionally misleading
Close. 4070 laptop is a 3070 equivalent
Hey atleast the 4060 performs very close to its desktop counter part. Like 5% differences.
Would've justified the price of thy slapped a full power mobile 4090 in their and more storage
for those in need of such shape, its a good pick, very powerful and reliable
for example tiny desk offices, tv room, aestethic themed room, hidden hardware themed etc2
Pretty solid. Price is a bit high considering it's basically one of their laptops without a screen.
Just a bit high? More like ridiculously high 😂
This thing should be $1500 at best
Omg 😮
At best it should be $800
At worst $1200
This is always my feeling on small form factor gaming based on laptop tech. Why not just get a laptop?
I've been waiting so long for this one! The worthy enthusiast NUC successor
What going everybody it's ETA PRIME back you again... I miss this intro. I remember old videos
Hopefully this is more reliable than some of their other stuff. Had fans and all sorts crap out on me, with asus gear.
i have a 12 year old asus laptop that was submerged in a flood then thrown at a wall. it still works. Asus has been a beast for me
300W NUC, from ASUS. Nice :))) firefighter's dream.
If you consider the size, especially with the external power supply, you're better off building a mini ITX system with, for example, the Velka 3 case and you'll end up with about the same size and a better cooling system. Plus, it's easily half the price.
For those of you who don't want little boys gaming aesthetics or crazy asus prices there's a case called the fractal design ridge that'll fit an ITX motherboard, psu, and a graphics card in what looks to be about the size of a PS5. You'd think assembling a PC is difficult but you save so much more than the effort tax will buy, and it gives you something fun to do and customize
Yeah man the Ridge is a cool case. Takes a lot of research but I have a liquid cooled 7900xtx / 7800x3D in mine built for 2K/4K gaming. Highly recommend for couch gamers.
@@Yoshi278 I am ending up with $ 2500 for an equal custom build. Any suggestions?
Misspelled Helldivers as Halldivers in the description.
Love the video though!
They're different games. One is about being a middle schooler trying to sneak around during class to smoke cigarettes in the bathroom and avoiding Hall Monitors.
You can get 4070 laptops for $1500 so this feels like it's very poorly priced. Sure it's going to perform better because it doesn't have the same power restrictions and the cooling on this is probably better, but still I feel like this should maximum be $1500 because they've cut the screen, battery, camera, etc.
So many good machines, not enough good games
Helldivers 2 does not support DLSS.
It's not DLSS, it's their own scaling, but has nothing to do with artificial upscaling.......
They need to make a mass market $199 TV box. If all these companies can make a $500 handheld with an expensive battery and touch screen, and all the other extra components like buttons, speakers, mics, gyros, etc, I am sure someone can put out a decent AMD APU box for $199 and still make a profit.
Much as I do like mini-PCs and this one really does have a nice aesthetic, but I think the manufacturers are really missing the mark with the pricing.
if it cost the same, if not more, than an equivalent high end laptop with the same specs, what is the point of buying the mini-PC?
It needs to be cheaper by at least the price of the keyboard, mouse, monitor and speakers/headphone you don't get.
With a gaming system that small, I don't mind it being a lil thicker for better cooling.
Again the price doesn't align with the specs. You can get a similarly configured gaming laptop for under $1500, and you get a screen, battery, keyboard, and speakers thrown in for good measure.
Why would you compare it to a laptop when it's clearly a desktop
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 Because it's using a laptop CPU, GPU, RAM, and power supply? It's literally a laptop in a different form factor with less stuff.
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 bro watch the vidéo again. It uses freaking laptop components 😂
Intel Core Ultra 9, RTX 4070 Mobile, ... etc
But I don't understand why this cost more than a similar spec'd laptop while having less stuff ( screen, keyboard and trackpad, battery,...)
Yeah, this thing is so confusing. You can get the 2024 4070 G14 with an awesome OLED, great speakers, good form factor, 32GB RAM for $1999 new through BestBuy in the US. That laptop also being an ASUS product, portable, with a battery, keyboard, screen, what in the world is the point of this computer, barring the Intel Ultra 9?
try the AtomMan X7 Ti... half that price.
It's finally here, that took forever since it was initially shown off.
my homemade budget mini pc with 3d printed case using desktop hardware uses bearly 100 watts during gaming
how did you get your 3d printed case though
@@bluetech2809 i designed my own and printed it
Do you not get worried when cpu temps go to 100 degrees celcius?
For that price you can get a laptop with same or better specs; for those that wanted the space ssving aspect.
If space isn't an issue then a desktop build with similar specs can be built for cheaper too.
Dunno what Asus is thinking with the pricing on both models.
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I personally would like to have seen it compared to the keyboard so I could see how “mini” it actually is. It didn’t actually look that small. To me, it looked like it was thicker than my daughter’s HP-360 2n1, but the other dimensions looked the same.
Will it be good for Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 which will be release on November 19th, 2024?
I usually say NUCSs cost the same or more than similar spec laptop but I can't find it. The cheapest equivalent laptop I found is $200 more. I did a quick DIY build at newegg which costs $1310-the NUC $300 more not surprising but then again less difference than I expected. I thought the DIY would cost around just above $1k.
I can not speak of the quality but the thunderobot mix has basically the exact same specs for way cheaper i believe the 4070 version is only like 1200£
I'm looking forward to buy one of these two. The Thunderobot is indeed cheaper, but I strongly believe that Asus has some way better internal built overall. Maybe not better enough to justify the price.
@@legacytournament I would say asus quality would be better atm I am not sure with the Asus rog ally having problems only for Asus to deny it even under warranty
Hey ETA did you forget to do a walk through of the ports on this mini pc
MINIFORUM mini PCs are absolute beasts
OG Skyrim, we're having mammoth steaks 🥩🤤
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Bruh, that CPU hit 103c in cyberpunk
Hoping for a PC physical media comeback in SD format with these card readers. Like inserting a SD card in stream deck and games appearing in the library.
Impressive for the size. Wonder how those low power cores and the iGPU perform for older stuff using less energy.
I buyed a new intel nuc 12 enthusiast for 499€. Best deal ever.
you can still make custom fan curves and stuff in armoury crate. You're wrong
I would love to see proper support (including vendor' software) for Linux on this kind of device. For me it's might me a new gen of Steam Machines when Valve will realese SteamOS for every device.
Special use case, indeed. For me the size savings isn't worth forking out the $2100. Not even close. Especially not to a company like ASUS given their antics as of late. I think i'd rather just put something together in a Fractal Terra for a little bit larger of a footprint and have individual component upgradability to boot.
Great mini pc. One thing I don't understand way this ultra mini pc makers don't just add a dedicated infrared and Bluetooth fly mouse remote control. At this point i just wanna replace my streaming device and just have a all in one device for gaming, streaming and computer on my tv.
4:12 100c degrees on the cpu, brand new looks dangerous. when you get some dust inside the throtlling will be inminent .
For anyone interested in a PC similar to this one for cheaper. Look up the minisforum G7 PT TI
The price is going to kill this, it's $1000 more than it should be.
Would Be perfect for a person like me who lives in a tiny studio, but not for no freaking 2K
Okay, listen to me: I recently bought the NUC 12 Enthusiasts (32Gb+1T) for $900 and compared to the ROG NUC:
- x0.8 CPU strength (12700H)
- x0.7 GPU strength at x1.33 VRAM (Arc A770M 16Gb)
- TWO USB4 ports. I was surprised to see only 1 port on this ROG NUC
- Same 330W power brick
What do you think? I think $3000 for this generation of NUC is batsh*t crazy!
How well does the Arc 770M generally do? I hear it's surprisingly good in some places, of course lacking in others. I don't have a good read on the general place where it stands.
@@SwordfighterRed Short answer:
- A770M is a full desktop A770, just running at lower TDP. This is the main reason when I bought the NUC.
- 1080p60 Ultra or 1440p60 High (except unoptimized AAA titles)
- Frame time: some stutters/1 hour of gaming.
- Bugs: I encountered some, can get annoying. Reinstall drivers to fix.
I will give a longer answer below. I felt the same ambiguity before buying intel ARC so I want to share too.
@@SwordfighterRed Long answer: potentially, the A770(M) is a sleeping beast, packed with raw hardware power. However, it depends on driver support of intel & developers into the future. For example: I recently finished Uncharted 4, a DX12 game, on my NUC at 1080p Ultra averaging around 70fps. Starfield, another DX12 game, runs at 20-30fps regardless of 2K or 4K resolution. You get the idea.
Outside gaming, it's also ridiculously good at video editing. I use CapCut to make vertical videos and 4K scrubbing is flawless, rendering is fast (1m30s video = 15s). Video editing is perfection with Arc cards because intel plays well with Adobe and DaVinci and such. On the other hand, it is hard to deploy AI models because there is little support, requiring even more workarounds than AMD cards. It's pretty power efficient though.
In conclusion, right now A770M = 3060, potentially it can sit between a 4060 ti and a 4070, and we are talking about a mobile card with desktop capabilities. Yet again it depends so much on the future of Alchemist/Battlemage support. Essentially I'm betting on the A770M based on the fact that intel is still making cards such as A580/A750. Hopefully it serves me for a long time.
Anything ROG is a big NO from me, I do not wish to see how my RMA doesn't pass because of ASUS...
You could just repair it yourself or pay someone else that can.
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 you do understand you are paying "asus tax" and getting worse warranty coverage than you can with "cheaper" brands, right?
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 Well that is the issue, in EU there is a law for RMA and warranty, and Asus is not following the law, why should I pay and repair issues that ASUS created and doesn't want to fix...
Truthfully they used to be the top company, and I really loved them, but after the issue with my 3070 ROG and being unable to get a refund for a broken card (that was bought straight from Asus) I honestly can't trust them, and then after the GamerNexus video about the same thing the opinion of them just disappeared totally. They are as trustworthy as the politicians...
I’d love to see a comparison with the asus g22ch. Looks like it’s not too much bigger but way more powerful
Nice Video! Pair with some camping battery pack and an external display and your are good to go!!
Fantastic... until we got to the 8gb of vram instead of 12gb. Hard pass.
For someone who is clueless with PCs, can you explain why?
@@gatesroyale I don't know whats currently the most acceptable amount of VRAM but 8 in 2024 for new titles can be fairly underwhelming. Most newer cards are like 20s-30GB area of VRAM. If you are not very into the PC scene, might be best to keep clear of a product like this for now. it looks cool but is very niche.
As with anything their will be a sale or discount on one of these or when new cpu and cards come out the last gen will be the discount. This is the right way to purchase anything be it laptop, Pc or something like this... I have the GC22CH and in general happy with it and it does have the built in Power Supply. As it sits pretty much smallest prebuilt you can buy with built in Power Supply. Only Negative is fans are always loud... if this was quiet when no gaming I would be very happy and I am the type of customer to buy it... The GC22 wihty a 3060 I paid 1199 pre tax and then very unhappy to see it get down to 849.00 on Amazon 2 months later before prices went back up. You just have to check pricing daily on these kind of things till it hits a buy.
CPU temp 🥵🥵🔥🔥💀
Problem with this gaming NUC is the same as all the previous gaming NUCs, they're just expensive for the parts inside them. If it's anything like NUCs past (like skull canyon) they're both dropped on the same board, it's an entirely custom setup. So they have to charge so much to get their profits out of it that it makes it really hard to justify.
Nice! I'm hoping as we get more traditional manufacturers making these gaming Mini PCs it will help get us more options. I'm still leaning towards a Mini PC future when it's time to replace my current desktop, the space savings and power savings have become tempting enough for the trade off in power
Nah at this price I could get a steam deck oled and a dock for near the same performance.
@@brandonrobinson3829 same performance vs a dedicated GPU?
Interesting. A radeon 780m in a magician minipc will cost you about 500. Sure its not as good but price quality and you are golden. Im still doubting a minipc or laptop. Secondhand all same price. And most important it can play all the games.
4:50 What's happening with the CPU? What tasks are you running in the background?
Great video! Can I know where'd you get your wallpaper in the video?
Now we are talking ! ... RTX power 🦾
Will you make a video for this machine running all the great emulators?
Better to make custom build pc ?? Any opinion?
Could we see some emulation performance with this? I'm curious how it compares to some of the other NUCs you've reviewed.
Intel Ultra 9 185H + 4070M
Max 64GB DDR5-5600MHZ
WIFI 6E + BL5.3
$1,629
Creo que tiene un precio muy elevado para lo que ofrece. Si trajera una 4080 mobile quizá sería justificable.
The Ultimate Mini PC until his next video tops it off.
Hey ETA PRIME, great video like always.
I have a question, which mini-PC do you think is better the ROG NUC 970 or the Mix Mini Game Box?
Looking at your videos on both, I would realy appreciate your input on which you consider the best for gaming.
Great video. Can you tell us what the dimensions are of the base/stand? I'd like to know if it will fit my desk!
I'm thinking about getting of these to replace my 2021 desktop PC that has a 3080... I like a dedicated gaming system without much fan noise, this could be a very ncie little desktop to do some speedruns on!
I wished they made a model with the 4090 inside.
i would love to see a review of the 4060 variant since its more affordable!!!
rog nuc w/ core ultra 9 185H + mobile rtx 4070 8gb + 32gb ram + 512gb ssd: $2199
literally the exact same specs but with only 16gb ram in the zephyrus g16 laptop with battery+16" 240hz OLED+keyboard built-in: $1999
..yeah you're getting ripped off, this thing needs to be $400 cheaper at minimum
Not only the price but only one USB-C port is very strange. Also this should be able to run out of that USB-C port in low-power mode
Hey ETA, do you have any rwcommendations for a usb-c dock for running two 144 hrtz monitors using a gaming laptop?
Doesn't seem like companies are making things like this wothout it costing the price of the laptop itself.
helldivers 2 had dlss now? since when? i though the dev said they dont need those upscaling method
The only reason I would have gone for a solution like this over a laptop would be the temps. And the temps are too damn high.
Back in stock
Thank God! I'm going to buy five of them 👍🤥
@@dustinspencer9278 hahah they have 3 in microcenter lol but idk for how long
I know NUC's are an Intel brand, but i would like to see more miniPC's like this with a Ryzen CPU and a dedicated GPU.
Well there is the Minisforum HX99G with Ryzen 9 6900HX + RX 6650M Xt 8GB of VRAM. Note that the RX6650M XT performs the same as its desktop counterpart. Waiting foe HX100G tho.
Would be nice for a minimalist setup
Amazing what a beast
How much would a mini ROG PC with a maximum RAM and SSD memory of 4 TB cost?
Please make an emulation gaming review with this
100c CPU Temp?
ASUS's employee of the month going for the yearly title too.
I have a question, i have never used nvenc or any mini pc and want to buy one purely as dedicated streaming pc. Plan is to multistream and use for encoding/recording triple AAA titles in 1080p 60fps or 1440p and maybe 4k. I want to use NVenc AV1 as encoder so want to make sure this can easily can handle everything.
I have this in the form of a ROG Zephyrus G16 with the same cpu and same gpu.
I paid $1600 for it and it's probably going back.
What is Asus thinking here? Just buy a G16?
What's the point of inserting in this case Intel i9?! Even in games, it reaches 100+ degrees in your video... Madness.
3:22 the specs so you don't have to scrub through the specs chapter to find them.
I’ve been looking at your videos in search of the cheapest mini pc capable of running emulators up to ps3. Could you point me in the right direction? Many thanks.
My dreams come true
Love ya ETA but the 4060 ti desktop outperforms the 4070 mobile by 20% (at least) you can easily build a mini pc setup with 4060 ti for far less and better performance
This is a cool small form factor mini gaming PC... And I get that it's a laptop variant GPU but I think it's so sad that it's a 4070 with only 8 gigabytes of RAM
What's the point with these small housings? Is it for tiny houses or what
Yeah for price I would go with the ASUS NUC 14 Pro+. Granted it means I would lose the 4070 and would have to use the Integrated - Intel®Arc™ Graphics