How Introverted Sensing (Si) "Memory" Shows Up As A 3-Year-Old Inferior Cognitive Function
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- Опубліковано 17 лип 2018
- www.PersonalityHacker.com | In this video Joel (ENFP) describes how Introverted Sensing (Si) shows up for him as an inferior cognitive function. This is the 3-Year-Old (inferior) process for all ENFPs and ENTPs in the Myer-Briggs system.
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Thanks for the video Joel. I'm ENFP, and have an interesting example. My younger brother died when I was 18, and I'm now 31. This year I found a box in my mother's shed full of letters and cards that were sent by people who knew him, most of whom I don't know. I was shocked that it had been kept there - they were warped and damaged by damp. I definitely felt a need to preserve them, and brought them in the house. None of us have read any of them, but I know they're there for when we do. But also, the main reason for saving them wasn't for the practical purpose of reading them - it just felt like those objects should be preserved.
Hi Joel. First of all, I'm sorry for the loss of your grandmother. I'm an INFP (Authenticity-Exploration in the Genius system), and introverted sensing shows up for me in some key ways. It can show up in a negative way by ruminating on painful things from my past. Also, it can manifest as stagnation in life by focusing so much on being responsible to others in order to preserve safety and security. However, it can positively manifest by reminiscing on good times I've had with others or remembering sensory details that bring a sense of comfort (e.g. the flavors, textures, etc. of a favorite meal).
My dad and I are ENTPs and when my great grandma passed away we were the only two that HAD to rescue her photos. We also have spend so many NeTi hours researching out family line on ancestry, my mother (ISFJ) always teases us with how we put nostalgia on ridiculous things like vacuums, her being so balanced with it I’m sure it seams ridiculous
I went through my abandoned childhood home and collected all of my grandmother's family photos that everyone else left behind to rot into nothingness. Entp 8w7.
I’m an ENFP and my family’s volunteer historian. I feel the same sense of responsibility. When I have done family history research and found something interesting about an ancestor I get really excited, like a kid with a new toy, and usually end up disappoint that no one else thinks it’s as cool I do. And I keep things, not cause I want or use them but because some one important to me gave it to me. And I tend to be nostalgic over the most seemingly trivial objects or memories.
Thanks Joel! I'm an INFP, and Si is in my third slot. I like this video, and I personally love family history and preserving it- though I have not done near as much as I want to. I have noticed however, that I always feel it's important to always write the dates of births and deaths that occur in my family. So in my personal journals, I do that. I also have a great love for keeping a journal about my life. So those seem to me to definitely be Si/memory type activities. I find doing so is personally very fulfilling and meaningful.
Thanks again! Great video.
This is a beautiful expression of introverted sensation.
That resonates so much! I dislike not compulsively keeping things, just in case. I identify as ENFP. I do this with video playlists. Collecting so i can go back to them later. Learning to let go is not easy....
ENFP here, I feel like I’m quite ruthless with things I deem as clutter (which is a lot) because this can get out of hand and I can become very disorganised quickly. but I am sentimental, it’s almost I cling onto some things as I’d forget otherwise because of my poor memory!
This is such a lovely thing to do though to preserve a bit of history, the possibility of pleasure it may also bring to others in future
ENTP and I totally relate to this! Whenever I clean out my house, I tend to keep things that have an associated memory to it and throw away things that don't, most of the time regardless of their monetary worth.
Oh wow, good catch. YES.
How does that fit to the desired rationality of Ti? I (ENTP) use objective reasoning to decide what to throw away, regardless of "emotional value", of course while keeping in mind any future potential use or value
I threw away thousands of dollars worth of collectibles when my family was thrown out of our home. I kept a silver duck worth ten bucks that belonged to my grandfather.
Enfp here and I feel this so much.
I can relate as an ENFP, I have been working on letting things go for years. For most of my life I've been sentimental about everything. Like my badge of my firat job or like saving every card I've ever been given especially the thoughtful hand written letters ❤️. I'm sure that is why I love photography so much. Thanks for your video, I've been listening to your podcast for a couple years! Ashley (Cincinnati OH)
My fiancé passed away. I'm slowly ridding his stuff from our home. I've respected his space and the collection his life brought to mine for two years. It's been difficult.
I'm the family genealogist. I've written a 300-page book about the family lineage. I'm the youngest aside from my own children, but the authority on our family history.
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Yup, I do that a lot. I save everything because I "may need it" later and then I rarely ever touch it again
I also have the same tendency to save a lot of things just in case it might be important, but at the same time I don't want to put too much attention into deciding whether or not I should really save it. I am obsessive about wanting to preserve memory because I'm not good at remembering. But at the same time I kind of view the past as a bit morbid, which is why I don't spend much time reminiscing or even looking at photographs. I don't throw away old photographs, but I'm not one of those people who actually enjoys looking at them. I think it's because thinking about the past always makes me a bit sad, and it's not because of any particularly bad or traumatic experiences. I think the sense of passing time, and the knowledge that things don't last forever, and that the people we love grow old, or the knowledge that so much that could have been have never come to fruition -- that makes me sad. I never understood why some people enjoy nostalgia and reminiscing. I'm not sure what type I am. Sometimes I think I'm an INTJ and sometimes I think I'm an INTP. Or maybe I'm really an IST/FJ.
Such an amazing environment around😍, I'd give anything to be there.
A tether of meaning conecting visual and emotional experience It easily maneuvers the wormholes that lead to knowing what this whole life is for.
I'm an INFJ, and I'm the family genealogist and curator of the combined family history of mom's side and dad's side of the family. It's also spread to documenting cemeteries via photos. Scan the photos and upload them, or donate to a historical society.
This is so interesting. I'm an INTJ (I doubted a lot about my type), so I don't have Si. But my BFF is an ISFJ and she also collects things from her childhood and grandma.
Recently testing on 4 online sites (including Personality Hacker) I am an INFP (Though my son insists I’m a ISFP which I tested at years ago) I am definitely a keeper of sentimental things such as drawings my kids have done through the years (even though they are now almost all adults) even papers where they have just practiced writing their names....I drive them crazy with wanting to take pictures of everything...I have kept some of their baby clothes and toys and their crib...haha... If there was ever a house fire and everyone was safe...the only thing that would absolutely devastate me would be losing pictures and family videos...I guess that’s all the SI in meI...😊 Thanks for the video...it makes me think all the more that INFP is correct vs ISFP....😊
INTP, tertiary Si. Yes, I feel the same way about these things. I'm from a very large family and I feel like I'm the only one who feels this responsibility. It's really weird!
This shows up for me in books. It seems like books have meaning, potential, importance. I'll end up buy a lot more then I can even read. The same with health products, essential oils. Etc.
Also, there was a time of great upheaval in my life (12 years ago) and a had a great urge to purge and throw away most of my books. It had to do with radical though process/belief change.
I have noticed this purge thing has come up several times. I guess I'm grateful, so I don't become a hoarder.
I'm ENFP (who lives near Pittsburgh, btw)
Very true 👍 👌 👏 🙂
Im an enfp and do the exact same!
Love to collect letter photos videos etc
It’s odd, I think I’m INTP, my memories of the past aren’t as gripping on my drive, in terms of preservation. But I do have a sort of desire to preserver memory, through musical catharsis. Or even when I pick up a nostalgic smell or some other reminder. I definitely have an active love for the past as memory momentous, it’s interesting to reflect on that from my perspective of conscience.
I believe I don't have Si in my ego stack but I still save images thinking that sometime in future, we would revisit the memories and cherish them.
Interesting..That explains why my mom who is ISFJ and has SI as dominant why she likes geneology and keep old photos and calandars etc
I always capture memory in multiple ways. These days I focus on things so I can remember them later. When one person askef me what I save incase of fire? I responded family album. ( entp)
I'm an ENFP and back at my parent's house (so much stereotypical of me living abroad tho 😂) I keep a small box of treasures that includes small rocks or shells given by friends among some other small gifts and love letters.
Yeah ENTP ... had this yesterday sorting pics out
Sorry about your grandmother. I'm glad your kids were able to know her.
I'm an ESFP, so no Si. I do think that Fi can give one a relationship to family things - sometimes it does for me. But here's my question: how does the MBTI model handle people using a cognitive function that isn't in their stack? Your specific example of Si made me wonder about this. I'm not a sentimental person, and am much more in the moment than in the past, but obviously I learn from the past (just like any human being, I think). Or Fe: while I don't want people to be unhappy, I find it somewhat codependent to worry about trying to change other people's feelings. But if I'm in a group of unhappy people, I can become dragged down, too (so I generally try to get out of that group). Anyway, I'd love to hear you and Antonia talk about this (I don't think you have before, at least not on the podcasts).
Good luck with the boxes. I looked at them and felt quite overwhelmed. So yeah, no Si here :-)
Hey Karen, to answer your question: Everyone has all eight functions, although the first four are the most prominent ones that we use. ESFPs, just like every mbti type, can learn from their past and get dragged down in a group of unhappy people, but I guess it affects non-Si and non-Fe users less than it does for Si and Fe users.
Very introspective for an ESFP
I have highly superior autobiographical memory as an INTJ
Man- thanks for this. How do you think we can work on this as ENFPs?
I have strange old things (the wooden sign to my grandparent's house, an iron manual meat grinder, a handmade lap dulcimer, a pair of antique leather ladies driving gloves, old books that belonged to dead relatives, a pair of gold-covered walnuts...) that I don't really have a use for, but somehow I feel like I'm leaving the people behind if I let them go. ;P I've culled quite a bit of the objects, but *books* and information, especially archaic/"lost"/lesser known history I hoarde in my mind like a dragon. I feel compelled to collect data (especially neglected data) from history and keep it, just in case it becomes relevent. I can see my Ne inflluencing it (maybe this is part of a pattern and we NEED it!) but it can border on obsessive, sometimes.
Weirdly, in a story I wrote recently, the names of all the characters in the fictional genealogy are actually taken directly from my own family tree. I suppose it was my own nod/way of memorializing my family who immigrated from Scotland/Wales/Ireland. I felt oddly compelled to have my DNA analyzed, too, to find out my origins, even if the science is still considered a little sketchy.
(entp)
My entire book collection is based on this logic. Entp 8w7. (I barely even read) I have short books from 1927, and autographed books that are extremely rare by people you've never heard of. Perhaps, the only copies in existence.
How could your aunt even think of getting rid of that
Do all personality types utilise every cognitive functions outside their stack? I type as INTJ but I think have a very active Si.
Socionics shows recalling images of the past is Ni and not Si.
I am sorry for your loss. I relate to this.
I still use my grandmother's slippers after 10 years she passed away. I don't even belive in life after death and I don't practice any relligion but somehow I feel like if I let the slippers go away, I am forgetting my grandmother's existence. I don't know if it is related to the Memory process... but it is curious. It is sort of infantile, I know, but it's true.
As an entp, I am 100% convinced that the king james bible is logically sound and totally reliable, after years of digging and research. There's no way around it. It's an impassible truth. Just start by looking up all the supposed contradictions, and see for yourself. It's perfect and full of exceptional competence.
My Grandma was also an ESTJ, or at least that is what I think. Now that you say that I wonder if Grandmother's just seem like ESxJs...
regarding your statement starting at ~6:00 I might disagree in the fact I think wanting to save everything would be more of a dominant Si tendancy not the sign of a uncertain 3 yr old. I have ISFJ mother with Si as dominant and she wants to keep everything old.
As an ENTP I generally say that I hate the past. My 3 yr old tends to give me so much grief--literally. I need to throw it a blankie every now and then so it doesn't start a tantrum. That stack of albums for me would equal profound guilt over things I have no control over at all. Burden is the right word.
INTP here. I find it difficult to move on from things I've created. I may have created an attachment to a project but it hasn't been working. That can be difficult to let go. I can hold some sentiment but not often. When my ex-wife and I divorced I wanted to keep many of the photos, some I have but couldn't bring them all with me. I probably value the past of my romantic relationships most dearly. I haven't even taken many pictures of myself and didnt have a high school photo taken. My parents have pictures of family all over the office. I believe my dad is an ESFJ and mom an ISFP. I don't think I have anything memory related in my apartment other than figured and toys from things I've loved as a kid.
I hold sentiment with music as well. I don't break music routine too often.
And I also feel I spent too much time in Si, to be honest :)
What type was your grandmother? I assume an Si dominant? Sorry for your loss..
Trying to figure out if maybe I'm ENTP instead of ENFP. I totally feel this though regardless.
Justin B I have a feeling you’re ENFP - it’s more common for ENFPs to mistype as ENTPs than the other way around.
Not sure why or what the meaning is...as an INTP I can tell you that I keep object mementos because I save processing space in my brain for theoretical processes like physics and metaphysics, if I were to store such other data as sensory memory it would crush my system, I dont waste precious 'CPU' space on emotive connections of the past, if I have a past memory that I cherish I attach the emotion or sentimentality to the object itself [think Nvidia GeForce MX150] and keep it, hence it becomes an external file or memory stick to the situation or memory or emotive attachment, the object thus becomes the 'file' and I have freed up my internal hard drive space for other more interesting subjects, like time possibly being a photon and thus dark matter. I dont know if this makes sense to anyone other than me. I have dresses from many years ago because I simply had a very good experience in said dress [not having a socially awkward day but an actual pleasant time-rare for INTP females because we are often marginalized] Even though I know I'll never wear said dres and its out of fashion and not so trendy, but I cant throw it away because of the memory attached to it. It is my way of honoring the Si child and it soothes the aspiration to remember. Then I have plenty of free space to think, perceive and intuit which is what drives me like an 8th generation i7 quad-core processor with a 2 terabyt hard drive, who has space for all that sentimentality, I say put it on an external object, makes sense to me. The reason why you are preserving these photos is the sense of duty, duty to the Si child otherwise that child will be very unhappy with you, so give Si child its lolli and get back a smile.
Wait...on second thought, maybe the sense of duty to the Si child is in INTP thing, perhaps the motivation for Fe would be that you would feel bad disappointing that Si child and thus give it a hug with honoring the past of your family, just a guess but I could be wrong, I do things out of a sense of duty, not emotion. I'm not great with F functions so I'm using a logical induction here.
Si does not equal memory.
Si = memory of sensation.
Ni= memory of patterns
Fi = memory of emotions
Ti = Logic memory.
Which is why an average:
INTP has better memory of what 12 × 22 is than an ISFJ.
INFP has better memory of someone's character traits than an ISTJ.
INFJ can better remember psychological patterns within people than an ISFJ.
INTJ can better remember external sensory patterns than an ISTJ.
「こんなにいいとは思えない」、
Evwryone in the comments are enfp. And here I am, as an entp si inferior, wondering if my slightly sore toe is a sign of incurable cancer that's slowly eatting away my organs, while I juggle being the greatest person in my field, and being surrounded by incompetent idiots that want to brood over my independence and freedom..