Introverted Sensing in 8 Positions
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- Опубліковано 12 лис 2019
- The precise introverted sensing cognitive function and how it tends to manifest in each of the eight positions.
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Me as an INFP: I hate routine I don’t like doing the same thing over and over again!
- has never redecorated my room ever
- refuses to change my hair even if it’s just highlights
- very upset when my ENFP mom and sister spontaneously adopt animals and bring them into the house without me having a say
- dislike people in my room especially if they touch or move things around
- eats the same breakfast every day
I love trying new things but when I come home I like having the comfort of knowing exactly how everything is going to be/look. And now I know why my mom and sister like to move the furniture around every month. Funny how INFP and ENFP can be so different.
Probable INTP here, your description of tert Si is pretty much on point! Way back when I first started getting into mbti, I was sure I was J type because I always found some comfort in routine and i hate "sensory" unpredictability; for example say someone texts me in the morning and is like "you wanna go out for lunch?" - those few hours in between their invitation and the event taking place feel like a disturbance to my "routine" or rather how I envisioned the day going. They require me to make a quick and spontaneous decision, which with Ne and Ti and blind Se is just a nightmare.
Anyway, great video! Always a fan of your content. :)
As an INFP, I relate so much to this :')
I relate. I used to think I was ISTJ, but I'm actually intp. It's not that I need routine, but if I come up with a routine, I need notice ahead of time for me to feel ok with that routine chsnging. I can make a new schedule every day. It doesn't have to be the same, just no surprises please I tell people to let me know a day in advance when they want to talk so I can put it in tomorrow's mental schedule. I hate my plans for the day being interrupted. Don't get me started on surprise parties!
I also hate sensory unpredictability, and I am fighting against routines that I can't find a reason to follow when I was young. I would keep asking for explanations. Before I just think I am IXXX, now I think I might be an INTP...
Lol, literally same, judging INTP
I love how you described the interconnectedness of distinct experiences as a measure of strong Si! As an ISFJ, I am constantly measuring (comparing/contrasting) experiences based on some categorical reference state (or archetype). You did a fabulous job of delineating this here! I wish that more people in this community would understand this VITAL core component to Si!
I totally enjoy when I can access Si in that sense, I cant easily, I can when walking the dog, in nature, and thats healing. I like when the conncetions come up just by looking at a small herb. Idk wif thats the Si that and Si dom sees, I probably only have a hazy version as Ne dom, but I recover with SI.
Me, ENTP: mom, what happened to that picture you had hanging here?
Mom, ESFJ: what?
Me: the one of the New York skyline. I just noticed it’s not there.
Mom: oh don’t be ridiculous! I gave that to goodwill about two years ago!
Me: seriously?!
Mom: you helped me take it there!! Remember?!!
Me: Oh yeahhhhhhhh....
~me, after staying up until 4am~
I shouldn’t stay up this late again, it fucks with my focus.
~four months later~
Wow, it’s amazing how much staying up late fucks with my focus. I’d better not do it again.
~eight months later~
Damn, I can’t focus at all. Maybe it was because I stayed up super late the other night. I should keep that in mind so I don’t do it again.
~more time passes~
Wow, so it turns out that staying up until the early hours for just one night really throws off my focus for a week or so. I shouldn’t do that again.
yes we forget everything all the time and then have the same insight and the forget it again. I think we discover a lot bc we forgot it before. And teh same delight every time. I struggle with that too. entp
lol, An ENTP's "Si dialogue" with themself xD :D
David Oliveira 😂
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Hahaha
My God! I think I'm an INFJ and I've always wondered why I could do so well in school remembering conceptual elements, like the whole picture of an historical event for instance while having a really hard time remembering specific details like dates etc.
I think people get confused about MBTI "types" because they think that they're strict boundaries. No, they're just rough "sketches" that may or may not help us understand someone else better. I personally think it's a great tool, but it should by no means be the only way we try to understand others.
Are you ISTJ
@@reeve8640 What makes you say that?
@@reeve8640 here for your reply
These cognitive functions in 8 positions are the best and most informative videos within the community. Thank you for the time and effort as they really help to corner certain functions that are difficult to see.
As an INFJ I realized that my memories are quite vague and not very detailed. I got told by friends (especially one isfj friend) that I remembered an events details wrong XD like which place and date and even who was there or not 😂 . I tend to remember it in a more impressionistic way?
The exception is embarrassing moments - those are painfully clear 😂
Oh I was also thinking about Si-doms and how they prefer to connect to past things.
I asked my friends to think of a castle - and an INFP friend with her Ne answered; so what kind of castle? Should it be made from stone? Grass? Bubbles? 😮 You have to be more specific! " and my ISFJ friend:" oh! The pink toy castle I had as a child and played with comes to mind" 🤭
it's just so cute! 😄 And fun to see our differences! ☺️
INTP here. I thought this was super funny, the whole bit about routine. People usually take note of how I only eat the same thing at the same places or how my closet is literally 200 black shirts with white band logo prints.
On my end, I want to be able to explore on my own terms and having to deal with that minutiae just gets tedious and takes away from the limited energy I have for the day. It's not really a huge conscious driver but it kind of bugs me to the point where I have to optimize things to that end.
Francis Maria Regalado New clothes shopping for me means buying 2 packs of black, crew neck, pocket t-shirts and maybe a pair of cargo pants. Definitely an INTP thing to do🙂
I also tend to stick to the same foods when I eat out. I love cooking, though, and I eat more adventurously at home. - ENTP
klj788986sbb ENTP here I hate cooking mainly because I like good food and I’m not good at cooking... any tips on how to learn to cook?
Hometown Rapper Sorry I'm a month late, but you could try watching some cooking videos here on youtube, there are channels with many basic, easy recipes for beginners and on a budget (Pro Home Cooks is one I really like).
Then just try! At first you're bound to make some mistakes but you just need to know a few solid basic techniques to be able to cook a great variety of dishes. Then you can venture on more advanced techniques if you wish.
I learned mostly by watching my mother cook (and some youtube). When I went to college I started cooking for myself and it wasn't hard because I already had that basic knowledge. So, watch some cooking videos, choose an easy recipe, put on some music and try!
INTP here. I always thought the whole "INTPs wear the same thing every day" thing was BS, but then I realized that I literally have 25 flannels hanging in my closet next to six pairs of jeans that are only minutely different . . . I realized that I just *buy* a ton of stuff, but I don't actually wear 95% of it. I wear the same frickin thing every day 😂
Great how u described the ISxP, i get called ISTJ sometimes just because i eat the same menu everytime i go to mcdonalds
Dom Si: ''It looks super scary because I've never heard or seen this before, keep it away from me!!!''
Aux Si: ''Because those are the rules''
Tert Si: ''Let rewatch the the Star Wars prequel again next week! Ironically of course, duh!''
Inf Si: ''Why are people bitching against the Game Of Thrones finale?? Y'all should have given up on that crap after season 1 like me...''
Can you explain the inferior Si example please.
@@ninawillow2429 Giving up quickly on something that seemed interesting, novel, fun for a short time in favor seeking the next mentally stimulating thing
Dom Si are pretty ballsy. Should've met my ex-girlfriend...😶
Can you do another template like this but with all the functions hehe
@@gregsander8439 Maybe they are incredibly well developed. Compare that to my Si which is kinda in between.
unrelated, but the turtle neck is cute
I really appreciate this, I've never seen an explanation of Si this good and I actually feel like cos so much of the mbti community is made by N types, the sensory functions are just poorly understood. But you did a great job
7th slot Si is the death of me. I forget everything, lol. RIP.
@DJ Granville Well, Si 'trickster' isn't that bad compared to Si 'demon', agruably. (I'm an INFJ) But yeah, I relate to that. (So you're an ENxJ..huh.)
That's why I try to write everything down xdd
8th slot for me. I hope I never get called as a witness for anything. That would turn really ugly.
I abuse sticky notes and I write great reports. After all, I sometimes need to refer to my own past work because I'm totally capable of forgetting what I've written. I recall relying once on a tutorial that I had written. In fact, I'm often caught off-guard if my managers ask me if I've done something, because I don't remember if I did.
I appreciate explaining the topic, I always struggled with it, I appreciate you helping me grasp the understaning of Si.
Very informative, please do more of these. if you have not done Fe i would love so see your view of it in the 8 positions.
Dominant Si from my POV: Vast Internal Filing Cabinet in my brain that's being constantly updated for relevant information. Adding new files whenever new fascinating sensory data comes my way. It's probably your Polr Se that makes it hard for you to be observant.
Looking sooooo goood in this video
Memory(bits of knowledge) different from memories(events and associated emotion)
Ive got Si child and my memory is connected to events and a lot of emotion.
You're perfect with thise Videos! Go on😊
Do Ni doms with Si in 8th position remember bits of their childhood? I only have the "flavour" of it but can't recall. My INFP son remembers large chunks of his childhood with amazing accuracy. I can't remember who said it but apparently it was likened to a hard drive. High Si users have large hardrives and low Si users have larger RAM or working memory. You think that's true?
Hi, infj here, personally I had a high drama, sometimes painful, colored and profound childhood. So yeah, I remember much of my early journey well... it's probably the level of significant experiences that links one to remember irregardless of Si placement. Personally I see the MBTI stacks as systems of personality functioning within a complex system of brain activity. So I think "type" functioning isn't always clean and measurable. Sorry if this causes confusion .
Then again I'm new to in-depth MBTI; it's entirely possible I don't know what I'm talking about. 🤔
@@SL_Derby Actually it makes sense. Although I tend to see type more in that the cognitive functions express certain characteristics. I know a few with the same type but markedly different expressions of personality. You're right though. It's not all that black and white. Thanks for the response. :)
@@SL_Derby "It's entirely possible i don't know what Im talking about" you sound like me when I know I'm uneducated in something 💀
@@joshgreen194 to be honest I take MBTI with a grain of salt. Many highly "educated" people consider MBTI a psuedo science comparable to astrology in validity.
INxPs ..
Can't remember where we left our keys very frequently(gotta love Se trickster), but we do notice when our routines are messed up... don't misspell something and expect me not to notice, at least eventually if not right away...
so here's the thing. I'm infp and in my teens and while I do think I'm aux Ne and have a strong Ne I sometimes feel like I have a strong Si or maybe I'm in an Fi-Si loop (though I don't really know enough about the loops so I could be wrong) because I really don't like doing anything new that isn't just information. so for example I really love learning but I hate finding me music for example when I get bored of my playlist because I don't like encountering something that I don't know what to expect from it and prefer to stick with stuff that I've dealt with a lot (which happens quite often because I am constantly listening to music). I like routines because they give me a sense of stability in my life and make me less anxious but I don't like very strict routines like I also need to just do whatever I want but still have my life on track if that makes sense so in this way I don't quite relate to how tert Si is described idk
omg. I've been trying to figure out my mom. leaning to ISFJ, but questioning INFJ. But that example that you gave about your Si-dom friend with the comment about starting your youtube channel sounds exactly like my mom. When I wanted to pursue art or media, she was saying how it's really hard to make a living unless you're really good. She discouraged me from trying things that she felt were likely to fail or doing anything that could be morally corrupting or dangerous. She's realistic, but also pretty spiritual/religious. So I was wondering if maybe the strict religion was suppressing her Ni. But I'm leaning towards her probably being ISFJ. She is really good at taking care of people practically....so I guess I just answered my own question. lol
Si is also introverted sensuality
INTJ here, I suppose it could be better put in the following manner. I don't experience my memories in sensory ways, instead my memories are more like playing a movie in my head. I don't remember per say how I felt in those moments, but I remember extremely detailed pictures of those moments. I can tell when and where they happened by remembering the house I was in or the school I was at. So yes, while I do remember how I felt in some memories, those memories were not formed by my feelings.
On point!
you're so cute
Hahaha relating hard to the INFP love-hate relationship with Si
I loooovvvvvveeeeee Si
Im -supposedly- an INFP but I love Si, its cute, safe, and relaxing, although it can get pretty boring.
Is like.. naturally when im on my good state. Im observing the world in the here and now and always taking in and pulling out these informations of the background.. like "he said this to say that im not capable, he probably thinks he is this and that this all makes sense looking at his current state, he is gonna do this since this and that.."
Like a meditative state.
The past comes at me as flashes of memory, the details also comes up as a feeling in the back that i dont remember exactly but make me walk towards a intuitive conclusion.
I feel like I fake this… I just make up stuff that didn’t happen.
also Si 7. slot seem to have much problems to relax, but different than I with Si in 4. The seem too to slow down driven. Im just to scatterbrained.
Calypso (or anyone here), do you think that it’s possible for Si to ALSO be good at detecting synchronicity in the events around them?
The reason why I say that is because when synchronicity happens, the individual has to make a subconscious ‘comparison’ between two distinct events/sensations in order to associate them in some way. So I tend to think that one who is able to spot connections (or discrepancies) between various multifaceted events would find synchronicities occurring on occasion (assuming that the two events or sensations find some acausal relationship between each other).
So is it possible that some root towards identifying synchronistic events may lie within the realm of Si? I’m very curious as to what your thoughts about this happen to be (especially as a fellow Si/Ne user).
Hiii!!
I reaaaaaaaaaally need to know if i'm an INFP or not!! Please help!!!
I have so many questions! And since I don't understand that well about the function parts (I get really lost with that and English isn't my first language), but you guys seems to really know that, please help me!! So, the think is... Most of the tests I do I get INFP (all of them except for one) and that really makes me question it, because although I think I fits me, I wanna be sure haha and since you guys were talking about mistyping I got paranoid. The thinks make me believe I'm an INFP: I spent LITERALLY the whole day in my mind, my happy place, thinking about scenarios, and I love love love art, music, reading, poetry... I even write some poems (they're awful), and it feels like doing that FUELS my soul. I usually loses my energy if I'm around people too much, even though I like being with them because I really love them... And my moods changes A LOT... And the lists goes on.
Thinks that make me questions if I'm an INFP: I feel like that in order for me to follow my heart I have to really separate my feelings and think logically, because I want to make the best decision, and in order to do that I know I can't always trust my heart. Basically what I think is: it's best to do the write thing instead of the pleasure think... That's the basis to almost every conscious behave I have. Plus, I love writing, specially my feelings, and I do have an journal. I usually write on it once a month (when I have something to write about), but is there!! And I do feel like I'm very logical person (I've been told!!) but I think is more important to have a heart on thinks, otherwise, what's the point, you know?
I think this got messy, sorry!!!! but I hope someone can help me!! Thanks a lot
Hi, I offer typing services on my website cognitive8.com.
How can a parent's mbti influence the use of child's non dominant functions? I ask because of my longterm issue with identifying as INFP but sometimes I feel more like ISTJ. I can easily get into Fi Si loops and I use past experiences a lot (others functions seems kinda messed up too: overreactive, overthinking Ne and unhealthy/harsh Te). My mother has very strong Si (probably ISFJ) and she kinda shaped my personality in many ways. Now I see some thinking patterns and behaviors that seem Si-dom like (or Si strong) so then I wonder if that is because of the mom's Si influence or I mistyped myself.
I've wondered the exact same thing about everything you said lol I'm an INFP with an ISFJ mom and I've also really picked up on her Fe in addition to the Si. Also, I've noticed most INFPs have an ISFJ or ESFJ mom. Weird
@@erikaj0074agree!
Calypso, do you idealise Si, your tertiary?
Inferior Si, so goddamn true. My ENFP friend will activate his Fi Parent only a couple times for each new experience to judge "good/bad" but after that he throws it to Si Inferior and will NOT change his opinion!!!
He hates MBTI because he asked me to explain it to him and at the time I was a beginner and couldn't explain how all the 8 positions and functions work for ENFP thought processes, and now he just tells me to "shut the fuck up with that useless horseshit" every time I bring it up.
And I'm just like, "But it explains all your behaviors!" So my ISFP ass is having a blast silently judging you, hahaha!
Si seems to have a better memory because they are more detailed when talking, for example, while storytelling. My ESFJ mother in law is sooo detailed while she's telling smth. Personally, I don't mind, even having inf Si. But my INFJ husband and even my father in law - who I think he's an ISTP but I'm still not 100% sure - ask her to cut down on the details and get to the point 😂
I also noticed that ESFJ are constantly worrying about your comfort. This is a stereotype, but I do see it in my mother in law and my mom. They're making sure that the people around them are comfortable. "Do you need another pillow for your back?" or "Do you want me to help you with the laundry?" just to name two examples.
Idk if most ESFJ are like that ofc, but both of them definitely are, but my mother in law does it a lot more. Also possibly related to proximity, but I don't remember my mom being as much as my in law.
every INFP may "Oh my God! How this can be mirroring me?"
😂😂😂😂😂
By the way, according to CS Joseph: Si is about the experience you get (receive) from another person (while Se is the experience you give).
Thanks Calypso. Please keep going with making videos - I believe in you INFPs :) (..even if you can be "stuck in a rut" due to Fi is in need of comfy-feely xD.)
1:50 Very interesting.
Have you heard of the 3+1 theory in Socionics?
3+1=4?
What is that?
ISFJ
Reflects.
“Si isn’t memory”
Proceeds to basically describe memory
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In a physical context. All introverted functions store memory, but different topic emphasis. Like an ESTP isn't likely to store in-depth memories of emotions or process emotions on a level that would create an in-depth catalog to bother remembering in the first place. But IFPs would. Hopefully that makes sense.
Judging functions decide if something externally perceived is of value to store. Memory is recalled by means of introverted perceiving functions. Si will recall tangible experiences, data gathered through the physical senses, Ni will recall an idea or concept.
Just my personal view and understanding
Adam Augustus Since I don’t know you, I’ll choose to assume your compliment is sincere and you’re inputting your understanding to further enlighten the discourse. But, if you were being sarcastic, I’m cool with that too🙂
What I notice is that you constantly refer to the other functions in these videos, which does not include types like Fi-Ni etc etc
Whut is Je?
Te or Fe
@@Fuar11 ....Je stands for extroverted judging. Feeling (F) and thinking (T) are judging functions. Fe and Te are extroverted judging functions. I'm just another INFJ breaking down the details that support or explain a concept....(•‿•)
@@SL_Derby Yeah well I figured that was obvious though :D
@@Fuar11 sorry, I meant to reply to Johannson Yu...🤦 😛
@@SL_Derby this made me giggle. Damn Se inferior.
CS Joseph is by far the best Jungian typology UA-camr.
YES.... I enthusiastically clicked this video just because of the sweater. Sorry not sorry.
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