How Two Games Kept A Genre Alive (Bloons & Plants vs Zombies)

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  • @Jaavis_
    @Jaavis_  Рік тому +289

    Comment here if you want to talk about Kingdom Rush

    • @Valeir42
      @Valeir42 Рік тому +17

      lmao Kingdom rush was a vital part of my childhood summers
      Originally found it off of random websites as a flash game, it was interesting to find a flash game with so much effort and detail put into its art and gameplay. Even if the story was rather small and simple, they made it work, and overall, it was pretty fun

    • @krahser6914
      @krahser6914 Рік тому +6

      Used to play it a lot and recently just got into it. It’s pretty fun.

    • @cheesydinos
      @cheesydinos Рік тому +3

      more monke and bloon

    • @Water_156
      @Water_156 Рік тому +10

      w game please talk about it

    • @aleksissenkovs7730
      @aleksissenkovs7730 Рік тому +5

      Good damn memories playing since i was 4 or 5 years old so ye i would enjoy this getting talked about 😊

  • @kraken_slayergaming5833
    @kraken_slayergaming5833 Рік тому +246

    Fun fact: if you read the plant/zombie book in PvZ 1, you find out the Wallnut actually doesn't mind and often finds it to be therapeutic.

    • @fishygaming2554
      @fishygaming2554 Рік тому +27

      I remember it said something about walnut saying that getting eaten feels like a back massage.

    • @mellohi61
      @mellohi61 Рік тому +9

      I was wondering if anyone would mention this

    • @accelfromtds6384
      @accelfromtds6384 Рік тому +14

      "Tingling sensation"

    • @sunderland7694
      @sunderland7694 Рік тому +9

      ​@@fishygaming2554 damn that's the best way to insult your enemies

    • @ChronDoc024
      @ChronDoc024 Рік тому +9

      the book is called the suburban almanac, and as a person who has only played pvz 1 for a million years, can confirm this comment is fax

  • @Israel_Augustine
    @Israel_Augustine Рік тому +295

    I love how the titan’s of the TD genre have the most ridiculous premises

    • @muffins901
      @muffins901 Рік тому +45

      and I have 0 doubts in my mind that that's a reason on why they're the titans. they are such goofy premises of "monkey pop bloon" and "plant kill zombie" that people are too intrigued by it to not check it out

    • @rob3rtbigtoegaming431
      @rob3rtbigtoegaming431 Рік тому +15

      haha funni monke throw dart at balloon go brrr

    • @murmunster1761
      @murmunster1761 Рік тому +10

      bro is going to marvel at battle cats

    • @ponkothedestroyerofworlds6226
      @ponkothedestroyerofworlds6226 Рік тому +4

      hehe monke pop baloon

    • @smallw2003
      @smallw2003 Рік тому +2

      @@murmunster1761 Yeah but battle cats isn't trying to be cool, they make their game deliberately ridiculous and they love it. Both PvZ and Bloons geniunely feel like it would be normal in a different universe, as odd as it is here. Also everything in PvZ and Bloons fits the theme within the continuinty, whereas in battle cats they just put in loads of crazy stuff as long as its cool

  • @Joober
    @Joober Рік тому +530

    You can copy & paste your script into the Captions settings and they'll auto-sync to the video for you! 🙂

    • @Jaavis_
      @Jaavis_  Рік тому +164

      Did not know that, sahweet thank you

    • @SalveASMR
      @SalveASMR Рік тому +7

      Woah!!! Thank you 💚

    • @Connie_TinuityError
      @Connie_TinuityError Рік тому +9

      no they don't, it's all out of sync and you have to adjust it manually

    • @toobin_
      @toobin_ Рік тому +14

      @@Connie_TinuityError not anymore, they updated it to look at auto captions and the real captions whenever you choose to auto-sync and it sees what words match up and lines it up that way.

    • @stevelucky7579
      @stevelucky7579 Рік тому +3

      @@toobin_ that’s pretty cool, I didn’t know that.

  • @SorosPhuvix
    @SorosPhuvix Рік тому +277

    Saw the og UA-cam app design and got blasted with 80 psychic damage.
    Always been a fan of video essays, if you keep up this particular series I look forward to it!

    • @Jaavis_
      @Jaavis_  Рік тому +17

      Was it super effective

    • @FranXiT
      @FranXiT Рік тому +5

      You should have been a Dark type fr

  • @cz_Fenix
    @cz_Fenix Рік тому +42

    Two classics I still play to this very day. BTD6 and PvZ1 will remain staples in my heart, and to many others.

  • @edex59
    @edex59 Рік тому +59

    Fun fact: A Wallnut’s nervous system is so numb that they don’t really feel any of the “getting eaten” part. It’s really more of a light tickling sensation. So yes, the Wallnuts in PVZ are ok with being eaten alive. I mean, they only start frowning when their insides are literally exposed. Meanwhile, us humans would burst into tears immediately after a single bite to the scalp. Are we just inferior to PVZ Wallnuts? Or do we just have a better fight or flight response?

    • @murmunster1761
      @murmunster1761 Рік тому +5

      people: AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH IM BLEEEEDDDDIIINNNGGGGG
      wallnut: awww my organs are exposed again

    • @dragonhunter2343
      @dragonhunter2343 Рік тому +1

      Definitely humans are inferior. My squishy meat form is too vulnerable to dare compare to the wallnut and tallnut beautiful and graceful forms.

    • @francisros9115
      @francisros9115 11 місяців тому

      It's more of a tingling than tickling

  • @ED-gw9rg
    @ED-gw9rg Рік тому +209

    Don't forget that Kingdom Rush exists! The original can be played for free, while Origins and Frontiers only cost $4.99 on mobile.
    Vengeance was a bit rocky, but they got a new game designer to balance the most recent expansion, and graphically the game's just as great!

    • @genethemineman
      @genethemineman Рік тому +6

      also stick war legacy if it counts, well you hve to defend a statue

    • @capricous7196
      @capricous7196 Рік тому +14

      ​@@genetheminemanit's more like an rts because the main format of td games is your tower shoots / damage the enemies and they rather doesn't move very often unlike a rts would with its units

    • @Suitedbee
      @Suitedbee Рік тому +1

      Dude this is feel like add

    • @Zalimo4733
      @Zalimo4733 Рік тому +5

      ​@@genethemineman i dont think it counts, it is more of an rts.
      But there is some examples of tower defense and rts combined too, like mindustry, its a combination of factory building, rts and tower defence

    • @Pinkio
      @Pinkio Рік тому +1

      "Origins" and "Frontiers"
      _Where have i seen this name before...?_
      literally Sonic The Hedgehog on 2022 lmao

  • @plazmatek4958
    @plazmatek4958 Рік тому +188

    Editing is good, writing is good, I would like to touch on some stuff with PvZ
    First, I feel it should have been stated that PvZ was originally released for the PC, and how great it was that a PC game was moved to mobile devices.
    Secondly, I feel it should have been mentioned that PvZ2 is still a live service game, and is, in fact, still being updated, which shows that PopCap didn't completely move away from Tower Defense.
    That's all I wanted to say. Great job, I look forward to your career with great interest!

    • @tpfoxCastro
      @tpfoxCastro Рік тому +9

      I agree, this video gives to much attention to Pvz 1, I want to see PVZ2!

    • @Tired_Tortilla
      @Tired_Tortilla Рік тому +11

      Also saying that the garden warfare games had no staying power is just false. They stopped making them because BFN was way worse the GW2 and EA instead thought of it as people don't like the pvz shooters anymore instead of we made a bad game lets try again to improve. Also GW2 has a decent player count still you can even get full or almost full lobbies consistently.

    • @ferret3423
      @ferret3423 Рік тому +1

      My first ever video game was PvZ. Had it on my gramps old pc. I used to play it every day after school. Its been so long since I've played the OG though, which is a shame.

    • @9tales9f
      @9tales9f Рік тому

      Their animation and creativity budget ran out lol

    • @aakwok9240
      @aakwok9240 Рік тому +1

      @@Tired_Tortilla True, GW was much better than BFN.

  • @kristyandesouza5980
    @kristyandesouza5980 Рік тому +50

    Honorable mention: The entire Kingdom Rush series

    • @shalvei_
      @shalvei_ Рік тому +6

      sadly not as replayable as the other two and the series peaked at Frontiers (I'm still hopeful tht Ironhide didn't go to shit and that they can still make good games)

    • @AbdelkrimElfaouz
      @AbdelkrimElfaouz Рік тому

      ​@Shadow first one is good
      Secound one was really good it made the the game popular
      Third is not bad but alr
      Vengeance is good
      Last one is literally dogshit

    • @shalvei_
      @shalvei_ Рік тому +1

      @@AbdelkrimElfaouz there's no last one, Kingdom Rush Heroes or whatever it's called isn't a tower defense, neither is Iron Marines, so I don't know what game you're talking about

  • @Norwhal
    @Norwhal Рік тому +71

    Monkey pop balloon.
    Monkies and Balloons have been at war since the dawn of time, but the question I've always wondered:
    What are the balloons running from?
    Where are they running to?
    WHY R U RUNNIN?!

    • @Jaavis_
      @Jaavis_  Рік тому +19

      Good meme, meme generator

    • @ukkisragee9983
      @ukkisragee9983 Рік тому +15

      You are confusing balloons and bloons
      One is a harmless decoration that can even be found in parties for children, and the other is a deadly thing that knows only how to kill and destroy.

    • @rizkidary837
      @rizkidary837 Рік тому +2

      Well that bloons was a spy baloons

    • @dungeonlord1
      @dungeonlord1 Рік тому

      well actually the lore is that the monkeys popped the at the time, innocent bloons in the bloons puzzle game which is seperate from the td games. after this the bloons had no choice but to attack the monkeys to defend their land.

    • @ichiritos
      @ichiritos Рік тому

      ​@@dungeonlord1 wait...so we are the evil guys?

  • @thekaanemre
    @thekaanemre Рік тому +80

    finally, some PvZ content!
    idk why people don't know PvZ or didn't heard it or even Bloons.
    they are my childhod, especially PvZ

    • @CaulolProductions
      @CaulolProductions Рік тому +10

      Maybe you Just, yk *never searched it up*
      There is a lot of pvz and btd

    • @echodolphonian5729
      @echodolphonian5729 Рік тому +9

      @@CaulolProductions spittin' fax, there are a LOT of people that know both the games

    • @Peaaaaaaaaaaa
      @Peaaaaaaaaaaa Рік тому +2

      PvZ forever

    • @bluemariogangsta2
      @bluemariogangsta2 Рік тому

      PvZ is very well known, its even overrated in my opinion, BTD isn't as popular

    • @echodolphonian5729
      @echodolphonian5729 Рік тому

      @@bluemariogangsta2 YOU TAKE THAT BACK YOU BOMBASTIC REDDITOR

  • @SnoFitzroy
    @SnoFitzroy Рік тому +55

    6:02 it's literally in the first game's almanac. They literally have asked. It's the first thing PopCap thought of with the character is "how does he feel about it" and the almanac explains it away by having Wall-nut with really insensitive nerves so it just feels like a backrub to him
    edit: 7:57 GW2 is literally still active lmao it literally DOES have staying power

    • @supC_
      @supC_ Рік тому +1

      Was about to say the Wall-Nut part myself.

    • @Tired_Tortilla
      @Tired_Tortilla Рік тому +7

      Yeah the reason the stopped making shooters is because they took the negative reception from BFN as people don't like the shooters anymore instead of we made a bad game lets go back to the GW formula.

    • @Lt_Koro
      @Lt_Koro Рік тому +4

      bro GW2 is so good. sadly the PC version is pretty much dead. last time I tried during peak gaming time in the evening on the EU servers there where barely enough people to play. and if you did get into a match there where always one or two others who are always there with you again and again. but man did I have a lot of fun playing that game

  • @proteinsmann4889
    @proteinsmann4889 Рік тому +13

    Bro never opened the almanac in pvz for sure. Walnut says he doesn't feel like he's being eaten by zombies.

    • @Jaavis_
      @Jaavis_  Рік тому +4

      They still never asked him if he was cool with it

    • @zantos4853
      @zantos4853 Рік тому +4

      @@Jaavis_ He's a chill guy.

    • @Jaavis_
      @Jaavis_  Рік тому +3

      @@zantos4853 He's my hero

  • @mananonymous7197
    @mananonymous7197 Рік тому +15

    This man is definitely heavily underrated. I just couldn't get my eyes of the video, it's so freaking well done

  • @aduckwalkeduptoalemonadestand
    @aduckwalkeduptoalemonadestand Рік тому +10

    If you read his almanac entry, Wallnut actually did have a choice in the matter

  • @Pixel_PedroYT
    @Pixel_PedroYT Рік тому +27

    Underrated AF. Only thing that bothered me was your shift in tone with the GW games because they're amazing, but I understand the complaints weren't with the games themselves, more-so with the change of style. For me, They should have been either just a spin-off, or a secondary game series, with both being developed. But, after GW1's massive success, PopCap abandoned tower defense for a while, until they brought it back. There's also PVZ heroes, but it's the most mid game ever, and like, I don't mean mid as in bad, I mean actually mid, average, neither amazing nor terrible. It's just kinda there.

    • @tpfoxCastro
      @tpfoxCastro Рік тому +4

      PVZ2 always received updates, PopCap never abandoned tower defense

    • @trickygamer555
      @trickygamer555 Рік тому

      @@tpfoxCastro Yes, but every update made it worse. I wish I could go back to the old versions where there was no P2W, gameplay was interesting, and far future was still being worked on.

    • @tpfoxCastro
      @tpfoxCastro Рік тому

      @@trickygamer555 Uhhh, no? The most recent updates have been very good, there is new zombies and new plants coming, with some of them being plants from the original PVZ1. My man, you are a little trapped in the past, just a little

    • @trickygamer555
      @trickygamer555 Рік тому

      @@tpfoxCastro Ever since levels were added to the game (for plants) it's been killed for me, I can't take the game serious any more.

    • @tpfoxCastro
      @tpfoxCastro Рік тому

      @@trickygamer555 you can win the game without upgrading any plants or using any premiums. Also, it's mostly a songle player game

  • @RuneTacticss
    @RuneTacticss Рік тому +5

    Defender's Quest: Valley of the Forgotten is sooooo good, honestly my favorite tower defense game of all time. I also remember the Gemcraft series pretty fondly.

  • @olz33
    @olz33 Рік тому +1

    2 absolutely ICONIC franchises, the bloons games are constantly getting better and NK seems to be intent on providing content and listening to community reception on balance and changes to improve the active bloons games

  • @Fabled_Adventure_Girl_Kanna
    @Fabled_Adventure_Girl_Kanna Рік тому +17

    If not for those two, every tower defense enthusiast would talk about kingdom rush instead... Not that it's not talked about but y'know

  • @Zazastinker5555
    @Zazastinker5555 Рік тому +2

    My first tower defense was Plants vs. Zombies as I use to play it with my Grandpa and we beat the game on a few occasions . and it literally made me click and is what got me into gaming, going into minecraft, then left 4 dead, bloons tower defense all those huge titles only because of one little game.

  • @vashangelolagda1744
    @vashangelolagda1744 Рік тому +11

    BTD and PVZ are my all time favorites

  • @KillaCatzGames
    @KillaCatzGames Рік тому +5

    I played both for a long time during my childhood and still now. They are both very fun and they are the most popular of all td games

  • @razvan_nustiuce5551
    @razvan_nustiuce5551 Рік тому +5

    Honestly I'd argue that the PvZ 2 community isn't nearly as active as the Garden Warfare and just shootet side of the franchise in general, and even then, most of the stuff going on in the actual community of PvZ 2 is happening on the modding side with stuff like Eclise, Reflourished and Altverz just to name a few.
    I'm not saying that the GW side of the franchise is bigger... that would be impossible but they definitely have a lot more going on, not only thanks to people hosting tournaments and whatnot, but also problems like big names in the community doxxing eachother like toddlers throwing all the swear words they learned from their parents the night before.

  • @cowboypeashooter
    @cowboypeashooter Рік тому +5

    Finally some f-ing good commentary about PVZ. Really tired of people saying pvz ded.Good first video man

  • @JediDrewsterT
    @JediDrewsterT 6 місяців тому +1

    This is basically a Duopoly at this point

  • @pine_13
    @pine_13 Рік тому +7

    Arknights would definitely be my favorite tower defense game although it’s sort of an RTS hybrid as well.

    • @shalvei_
      @shalvei_ Рік тому +2

      too bad it's a gacha and a really grindy one at that

    • @faustus_tatacher9035
      @faustus_tatacher9035 Рік тому +2

      @@shalvei_ ​ the grind is pretty simple once ur at mid game, u just play for a couple of hours, lose your sanity (energy meter), then u wait until tomorrow. It's not as complicated as you think bud. Plus 3 star characters are op and they're pretty common to get by anyways hell they're even better than the 5 to 6 star operators

    • @shalvei_
      @shalvei_ Рік тому +2

      @@faustus_tatacher9035 don't call me a bud please also I've never played the game

    • @januszpolak254
      @januszpolak254 Рік тому +1

      @@faustus_tatacher9035 As Arknights addict 3* are not even close in power to even 4*, 5* and especially 6* that have such fun and balanced characters like Surtr,Texas and Młynar. However getting 4* ops is pretty easy.

    • @therealcactoos9457
      @therealcactoos9457 Рік тому +5

      @@shalvei_
      “Grindy gacha meh”
      “I’ve also never played the game”
      Lol

  • @karenafable6588
    @karenafable6588 Рік тому +2

    Wow this is very good quality! I wonder why you have little amount of subs u deserve some more!

  • @DubYuhGChoppa
    @DubYuhGChoppa Рік тому +17

    BTD is such an amazing series and i really think the existence of Battles is an underrated element

    • @kenynotkenny
      @kenynotkenny Рік тому +2

      Absolutely, I'm always amazed how they are able to make a pvp tower defend game that is actually intense

    • @identity_undetermined
      @identity_undetermined Рік тому +2

      And the PVZ 1 versus mode, which was really fun, but only kept to local play.

  • @Your_Daily_Apple
    @Your_Daily_Apple Рік тому +1

    This was such a great video, I wanna see this channel grow

  • @weirdnex
    @weirdnex Рік тому +3

    great video! The only detail i would add to this is that the second pvz game ever made is, as far as i know, pvz adventures, which is completely fine if you missed that lol, it was available on facebook a long time ago and only lasted a couple of years i believe, but still, great job!

  • @bojo1942
    @bojo1942 Рік тому +4

    7:22
    Sad pvz heroes noises

  • @alexistramirez
    @alexistramirez Рік тому +10

    Monkeys Vs. Balloons is so amazing

    • @helheim58
      @helheim58 Рік тому +3

      And Plants vs Zombies

    • @ded00023
      @ded00023 Рік тому +2

      Both are the best

    • @tjmonkey5795
      @tjmonkey5795 6 місяців тому

      Monke versus bloon funnier though​@@helheim58

  • @Darthbuddy
    @Darthbuddy Рік тому +1

    To answer your question at 6:02, yes. according to the suburban almanac, the walnut only feels a slight tingle when being bitten.

  • @Ortir
    @Ortir Рік тому +4

    Battle cats community being isolated from the world moment

    • @theguy6680
      @theguy6680 Рік тому +1

      Yeah it's pretty odd is I'm somewhat of a member of the community of this point, not a whole lot of videos and I even joined the fandom discord it's definitely one of my favorite games after all over a year and a half I've already sunk over 600 into the game and I've caught up with the latest content

  • @Marconeon2114
    @Marconeon2114 Рік тому +2

    they are absolutely the pinnacle of tower defense games
    it is my favorite genre

  • @Daniel_645
    @Daniel_645 Рік тому

    Also the MUSIC!! I think it adds to how good these games are

  • @noob3702
    @noob3702 Рік тому +1

    1. ur underrated as hell
    2. tower defense games are fun

  • @Geshiko-GuP
    @Geshiko-GuP Рік тому +2

    I love Plants vs Zombies, I remember playing garden warfare to BITS...Just me, the coach, the xbox, a pizza, and a Cola zero

  • @Water_156
    @Water_156 Рік тому +3

    underrated content

  • @DragoonDyte
    @DragoonDyte Рік тому +1

    2:59 god dammit I fell for it, and not only I was not in fullscreen, I am also charging this, damn

  • @angrybirdsmuseum7241
    @angrybirdsmuseum7241 Рік тому +1

    I was literally talking to people about this earlier today and then i found this video

  • @adweck
    @adweck Рік тому +6

    well uhh
    before plants vs zombies 2 released in 2013 there was a facebook pvz game called pvz adventures (it got discontinued in 2014)
    then after pvz gw2 there was pvz heroes, a card game
    and there were two different versions of pvz3, the 2019-2020 soft launch which was the portrait mode thing you showed in the video, then since 2021 every 6 months there is a new beta of a new version of pvz3 which is *slightly* better than the previous one

  • @KaikeCGR
    @KaikeCGR Рік тому +1

    When it says tower defense i remember my favorite game on NES, a game called TANK 1990.

  • @mcfloridaman2192
    @mcfloridaman2192 Рік тому +1

    3:00 i really thought my phone was on low battery 😂

  • @Naukko
    @Naukko Рік тому +2

    Took me more than half of the video to notice the music in the background was zen garden

  • @playingbandits3033
    @playingbandits3033 Рік тому +15

    The Battle Cats is another amazing tower defense game!! Definitely recommend.

    • @theguy6680
      @theguy6680 Рік тому +3

      Finally thank you I have played it's so much I feel like the game if iconic but no one talks about it at all not even be amazing music

    • @Plantplustrees
      @Plantplustrees Рік тому +1

      Me playing battle cats just before watching this UA-cam video

    • @mmhhgabe4599
      @mmhhgabe4599 Рік тому

      I don’t think it has been mentioned just because it gained its popularity very recently from what I see

  • @zomandrudegaming9340
    @zomandrudegaming9340 Рік тому +3

    PVZ WAS MY CHILDHOOD ITS A HUGE W!

  • @RipplyAnemone67
    @RipplyAnemone67 Рік тому +3

    2:59 I actually though it was a real one for a second

    • @jucool5
      @jucool5 Рік тому

      Yeah bro it got me good💀

  • @lukers9819
    @lukers9819 Рік тому +1

    This was a great video!
    I know it may not be as well known as the shooter, but Plants vs Zombies also released another really fun mobile app in the form of Plants vs Zombies Heroes! It is a really impressive deck builder game that has a lot of depth and a ton of creativity. It is still not a tower defense game, but it also is another form that PvZ has taken besides the shooters. This is not a critique on the video for not mentioning this; I just felt compelled to add this to the comments since I still love PvZ Heroes and believe it is a worthy addition to the PvZ brand.

  • @sixtysource
    @sixtysource Рік тому +1

    3:00 that actually got me. 😭

  • @PeashooterRappin
    @PeashooterRappin Рік тому +3

    Indeed, we saved the genre, but what we couldn’t save is the pool in GW1.

  • @-Raylight
    @-Raylight Рік тому +1

    Can confirm, the monke made the bloons go pop

  • @BoxyArchives
    @BoxyArchives Рік тому +3

    this guy is so fucking underrated

    • @Jaavis_
      @Jaavis_  Рік тому +3

      Thanks Pēnis

    • @moomooguy
      @moomooguy Рік тому

      What kind of name is that lol

  • @OrangeFRFR
    @OrangeFRFR Рік тому

    6:00 the wall nut confirms that he is okay with being a wall in the almanac.

  • @DemolitionIdiot
    @DemolitionIdiot Рік тому +41

    not even 30 seconds in and this guy is underrated AF

    • @utopes
      @utopes Рік тому +1

      I think it’s his first video, so that would make sense

    • @DemolitionIdiot
      @DemolitionIdiot Рік тому

      @@utopes yeah

  • @S1lly_Sail0r
    @S1lly_Sail0r Рік тому +1

    Randomly found this
    I needed this in my life

  • @SMG7_Yes
    @SMG7_Yes Рік тому +2

    One is still a great series of games
    & one is a fallen giant

    • @murmunster1761
      @murmunster1761 Рік тому

      ea really did their work on pvz, especially after firing the original creator of the 1st entry in the franchise

  • @maniacmohawk5513
    @maniacmohawk5513 Рік тому +3

    I would say there’s another tower defense game who in my opinion are worthy successor of the genre: Arknights
    It may be a gacha game but holy cow the developers went Doritos with the tower defense aspects and mechanics (I never thought the anime girl equivalent of a chomper could solo a Russian version of Darth Vader lol)

  • @arushamshafeeq9428
    @arushamshafeeq9428 Рік тому +1

    Now it's only Bloons

  • @mmhhgabe4599
    @mmhhgabe4599 Рік тому +1

    I feel Ninja Kiwi is basically keeping tower defense alive, but basically killing chance for any other game not owned by them to succeed.
    With their main 2 games right now, Btd6 and Btd Battles 2, they basically made top notch games very hard to beat.
    Whether you talk about the simplistic gameplay, complicated gameplay, intense gameplay, competitive gameplay, Ninja Kiwi just wins all of those and gives other tower defenses nothing to grow on besides niche gimmicks
    Edit: Also, with their constant flow of balance changes, updates, exciting content, and weekly events, nothing can really be that consistent but also high quality at the same time

  • @Lulu_Gaming1025
    @Lulu_Gaming1025 Рік тому +3

    Also better place in arknights as well. Kept the genre going possibly forever at this point

  • @KingKiwi5150
    @KingKiwi5150 Рік тому

    i love both fucking games so this made me cry (in a good way) over this little documentary

  • @vrourk
    @vrourk Рік тому +2

    On the first bloons all you have to do is spam dart monkeys

  • @Timoty470
    @Timoty470 Рік тому +3

    You are underrated

    • @Jaavis_
      @Jaavis_  Рік тому +4

      I don’t think I’m rated in general

  • @igga_hd
    @igga_hd Рік тому +1

    Kingdom Rush: *did you forget about me?!*

  • @mjmoffatt6097
    @mjmoffatt6097 Рік тому +3

    Garden warfare and GW2 are amazing games

  • @Oofio-Nuova
    @Oofio-Nuova Рік тому +1

    I miss pvz I can't believe pvz is coming to an end after pvz3

  • @LeoYoshi54321
    @LeoYoshi54321 Рік тому

    rip to the 38 other bloons games that never get mentioned outside of that one 2 and a half hour long video

  • @TurtlesN0W
    @TurtlesN0W Рік тому +1

    3:00 i pressed the low power mode button lol

  • @colle3291
    @colle3291 Рік тому +2

    The good bloons and plants vs The evil zombies

  • @Stage_3_Yawning_Cat
    @Stage_3_Yawning_Cat Рік тому

    6:06 yes, it was asked, and the gist of the answer was yes because wallnut doesn't feel it

  • @loganshaw4527
    @loganshaw4527 Рік тому +1

    Rift bound summoner's path looks very much like the classic plants vs zombies.

  • @theclown2257
    @theclown2257 Рік тому +1

    The garden warfare games were actually really good. Its one of the only 3 multiplayer shooter series that i actually enjoy. After garden warfare 2 the entire series started to fumble. Battle for neighborville was kinda mid and at least for the time being, killed the pvz shooters, and the 3rd tower defense game was widely hated during every open beta it ever had and is now canceled. Pvz 2 and merchandise are the only things keeping the franchise alive, wich is pretty sad to see

  • @xavirzahidder9096
    @xavirzahidder9096 Рік тому +2

    Both is childhood games

  • @mr.bananaman7901
    @mr.bananaman7901 Рік тому

    Well when i saw the video i was originally gonna say "What about teh kingdom rush games?" But you beat me to it

  • @KraylebStudios
    @KraylebStudios Рік тому

    Favourite tower defence games are PvZ, BTD, and Monster Train. So much so that im trying to work on a card game that includes them

  • @thankst1ps635
    @thankst1ps635 Рік тому

    holy this is my first video of you I watched and I thought you would have around 500k subs, damn

  • @yes_and_so_what
    @yes_and_so_what Рік тому

    seeing sunflowers in the back hurts so much. i wish they would teach newer players than offensive plants are in the back, sun producers in the middle

  • @agent5981
    @agent5981 Рік тому +3

    Great video, but i completely disagree on your take on the garden warfare games. They definitely had staying power if they kept developing them or released a garden warfare 3. The reason the garden warfare series died is because they released battle for neighborville, which was a big mistake. (this is not so much the developers fault, theres a story behind it). They changed up the formula with this game too much, which caused it to not recieve as much attention as the previous games, resulting in it getting cancelled later on. This is evident by the fact that pvz 3 also got cancelled a while ago, since this also completely changed a lot of core elements of the game, causing it to flop as well.

  • @sparcz2412
    @sparcz2412 Рік тому

    You actually tricked me with the 20% battery at the beginning

  • @CC_Cody777
    @CC_Cody777 Рік тому +1

    7:14
    Since you said "Bloons" not "Bloons TD", then you are masively mistaken, The original Bloons was like those cannon shooting games, You aim a dart and charge it and pop as much as Bloons as you can, and Bloons had a LOT of spinoffs, and Bloons TD was one of them and ultimately the one that carried the franches, Bloons had several versions and sequels, but since Bloons TD became the prominent one, even Bloons TD itself had several spinoffs, like Super Monkey, which functions nothing like the tower defense games, and then a sequel to Bloons, Bloons Pop! (Not Bloons Pop 3) and pretty much every character in the game from Bloons TD 6. There are much more to talk about but I wouldn't be putting it all here.

  • @YokieStillExists
    @YokieStillExists Рік тому +2

    There's one underrated tower defense game called Radiant Defense

    • @MaddieMewMew
      @MaddieMewMew Рік тому +1

      yooooooo radiant defense is so good

    • @watermelongaming3698
      @watermelongaming3698 Рік тому

      Anyone heard about Enigmata Stellar war? Flash game turned mobile?

  • @PenguinInASuit
    @PenguinInASuit Рік тому

    UNDERATED CHANNEL ALERT

  • @-sk8-437
    @-sk8-437 Рік тому +4

    I would also say Kingdom Rush, Gemcraft, and Creeper World kept this genre around

    • @aidanhammans9337
      @aidanhammans9337 Рік тому +2

      Ah yes, Creeper World.

    • @knyt0
      @knyt0 Рік тому

      never heard of them

    • @-sk8-437
      @-sk8-437 Рік тому

      @@knyt0 Kingdom rush was one of the most played flash games, Gemcraft is a tower defense where you fuse gems together to create higher tiers, and Creeper World is a tower defense where you fight off liquids

  • @4ainik4aevarov50
    @4ainik4aevarov50 Рік тому

    About people saying, that Warcraft, Starcraft and other rts leading to the creation of tower defense genre. I think they talk more about user created content and not the games themselves. You can just check custom maps made for them and there will be a tonn of td maps

  • @sonicspeeds1025
    @sonicspeeds1025 Рік тому +1

    They're actually 11 balloons game

  • @adamixziober
    @adamixziober Рік тому +1

    "Too big to fail"
    Meanwhile overwatch: 💀

  • @Pēm̐cā
    @Pēm̐cā Рік тому +1

    I used to almost play every game of pvz & btd back then.

  • @TheCodaCrew
    @TheCodaCrew Рік тому

    3:28 as someone who lost both their grandpas, I will never know the answer

  • @ssneakyandfriends1626
    @ssneakyandfriends1626 Рік тому +3

    ok, so popcap has canned PVZ3.
    though apparently they're going to continue to develop PVZ2 International.
    incase your wondering yes, there are 2 main versions of PVZ2, INT. And CHI.
    Int. has less content but is Much more Polished.
    the Chinese version has some different content, more overall, but is a lot more buggy and not very polished (EX. most of the new worlds' flag zombies' arms don't fall off correctly, and a few of the new worlds don't have zomboss fights).

    • @ali_m_
      @ali_m_ Рік тому

      They canned the beta, there is still hope!

    • @SuperDungeon
      @SuperDungeon Рік тому

      at this point pvz2c (pvz2 chinese) is higher quality then int at this point, if you want proof just look at the newer updates

    • @ssneakyandfriends1626
      @ssneakyandfriends1626 Рік тому

      @@SuperDungeon mm.
      I'm going to have to disagree.
      Alot of the hard mode memory lane levels don't get play tested before hand (Check flag zombie's channel for them).
      Jester is redundant with how many of the exclusive plants ignore his spin when they are clearly straight shooters.
      Pvp is just unbalanced. (Well same goes for - *gets obliterated by pea vine and mega gatlings boosted by torchwood*)

  • @psyguyyggdrasil9071
    @psyguyyggdrasil9071 Рік тому

    cant believe bird vs camel was the first tower defense game

  • @mrsentrybuster
    @mrsentrybuster Рік тому

    Wall-nut enjoys the back rub, don't worry.

  • @cheddar1775
    @cheddar1775 Рік тому +2

    literally 2 sec in video and i heard the beautiful One Piece OST ( To the Grand Line )

  • @ItsartoTV
    @ItsartoTV Рік тому

    Wow great video
    You deserve more views

  • @cbofinah
    @cbofinah Рік тому

    That moment when you suddenly find yourself with 200+ hours in btd6 just to never play it again within a month. 10/10 game

  • @lcajueiro
    @lcajueiro Рік тому +1

    2:58 THAT GOT ME

  • @aosure
    @aosure Рік тому

    i can tell this guy will go viral

  • @slippythepenguin1561
    @slippythepenguin1561 Рік тому

    i remember once playing btd6 at a restaurant and then one of the waiters recommended PvZ to me.

  • @Blaze_Bro
    @Blaze_Bro Рік тому

    we need to start a petition for a PVZ GW3