Why Plants vs. Zombies: Battle For Neighborville Failed

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    Battle For Neighborville: The Worst Game Nobody Plays Anymore
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    In the finale to MewZe's Plants vs Zombies Garden Warfare trilogy, I discuss Garden Warfare 3 AKA Battle For Neighborville. This game was a failure and ruined what would've been a perfect series. Why? A combination of bad decisions like removing core character features, and them giving up on updating the game. This game includes new characters like Night Cap, Snapdragon, Acorn, Wildflower, 80s Action Hero, Electric Slide, Space Cadet, TV Head and the Wizard. Not the Spy from TF2 though. That is a different game. This NOSTALGIA filled video essay will make you feel nostalgic for PVZ, and the funny gameplay moments are sure to make you ROFL on the floor!!
    #pvz #plantsvszombies #gardenwarfare #battleforneighborville

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  • @MewZe
    @MewZe  5 місяців тому +219

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    • @hiranpeiris877
      @hiranpeiris877 5 місяців тому +4

      no

    • @Yellowdude-hy6vi
      @Yellowdude-hy6vi 5 місяців тому +3

      Can you change the title because I played It

    • @hungariancountryball2928
      @hungariancountryball2928 5 місяців тому

      Ok

    • @abdullahalmahanna8241
      @abdullahalmahanna8241 5 місяців тому

      Hey MewZe you have to please put some of the same plants and zombies but in different games for example, taking the engineer zombie from the first game where it had like the drone in the second game it was literally basically peashooter’s mini gun and battle for neighbor Ville basically, when do you go next to it it will shoot by itself, makes your shooting weight faster, and it regenerate your ammo by itself
      I also forgot that to tell you that every imp in plants vs zombies two every imp have different mech with their different health, attack and abilities

    • @mineturtle2
      @mineturtle2 5 місяців тому

      ​@@abdullahalmahanna8241 sock

  • @mrbigrig171
    @mrbigrig171 5 місяців тому +3437

    Please be more respectful… my uncle died in a gang shootout in Neighborville

    • @Singingnoob-3minutesdirty
      @Singingnoob-3minutesdirty 5 місяців тому +249

      Uncle was a victim to the neighbourville hood 😭 🙏

    • @PlatinumGaming67
      @PlatinumGaming67 5 місяців тому +63

      Dang... Do you know what the gang was called?

    • @faisalloay2807
      @faisalloay2807 5 місяців тому +16

      What?

    • @yanni730
      @yanni730 5 місяців тому +150

      @@PlatinumGaming67 the 47 Kernel Krips

    • @compassrose1466
      @compassrose1466 5 місяців тому

      @@yanni730 THOSE SEEDY BASTARDS POPPED A CAP AND POPPED SOME CORN WITH YOUR UNCLE IM SO SORRY 😭

  • @R8MIX
    @R8MIX 5 місяців тому +1341

    I love how almost all the footage was from the Story mode/offline mode, because very little people are actually playing the game

    • @Right_Bumper
      @Right_Bumper 5 місяців тому +90

      They had to add AI backfill due to how small the playerbase is

    • @R8MIX
      @R8MIX 5 місяців тому +3

      @@Right_Bumper I know, I had to deal with it!

    • @CruzCrafter
      @CruzCrafter 5 місяців тому +52

      The game actually has a pretty diehard fanbace if your playing on the switch

    • @R8MIX
      @R8MIX 5 місяців тому +11

      @@CruzCrafter Oh, that’s nice!

    • @fastfire4553
      @fastfire4553 5 місяців тому +4

      I take that as an insult because I kinda love it

  • @Sculler14
    @Sculler14 5 місяців тому +429

    Fun Fact, The Crossbow Zombie Has A Glitch That Lets It Levitate Over Giddy Park From Spawn That Was Never Patched :]

    • @FortSewerRat
      @FortSewerRat 5 місяців тому +17

      I did that yesterday and fought three cactus at plant spawn

    • @Sculler14
      @Sculler14 5 місяців тому +5

      @@FortSewerRat Based

    • @astro_nut
      @astro_nut 5 місяців тому +22

      Tbf that glitch also makes you extremely slow making you a rather easy target so it’s kinda funny.

    • @saihiko9967
      @saihiko9967 5 місяців тому +2

      Coughs in doing it at least once,

    • @SirHenryBartholomewJiggleNuts
      @SirHenryBartholomewJiggleNuts 5 місяців тому +1

      Also you can use this to exploit the dancing minigame

  • @PlanetSamix
    @PlanetSamix 5 місяців тому +812

    I found a loose copy of this game on the switch in a Walmart parking lot, alone and in mint condition, and I still didn't even take it

    • @Megajaybreaker4
      @Megajaybreaker4 5 місяців тому

      Then you’re stupid. just because it’s not as good as GW1 and 2 doesn’t make it bad.

    • @sus-floppa
      @sus-floppa 5 місяців тому +33

      Thats craz wild

    • @enriquealvarez6145
      @enriquealvarez6145 5 місяців тому +30

      Could of sold it for 5 bucks

    • @ScuttleBugReal
      @ScuttleBugReal 5 місяців тому +45

      Crazy Dave.exe was in that copy. Good job, you survived

    • @Mr.Eggthreal
      @Mr.Eggthreal 4 місяці тому +2

      Bro that’s crazzzzzzy. But I can’t blame you for doing it

  • @vitordoesstuff1805
    @vitordoesstuff1805 5 місяців тому +452

    "What did they do to Citron? HE LOOKS LIKE THE ROBLOX MAN FACE" LMFAO I JUST REALIZED THAT

    • @fortheburbsandmemes7419
      @fortheburbsandmemes7419 5 місяців тому +21

      I never understood why they had to remove the little glasses he had

    • @Dr.jerk1357
      @Dr.jerk1357 5 місяців тому

      Hot take: he looked ugly before and he looks ugly now

    • @אלוהים-י8ו
      @אלוהים-י8ו 4 місяці тому

      No it looks like something you haven't gotten used to seeing yet because you're used to the old game

    • @Henrys-shorts
      @Henrys-shorts 3 місяці тому

      Why did they give him a machine gun the laser was better😢😢

    • @fortheburbsandmemes7419
      @fortheburbsandmemes7419 3 місяці тому +2

      @@אלוהים-י8ו I’ve proably played bfn more over gw2 an still find it more weird why they removed the glasses. Citron is suppose to be a cool loooking bounty hunter not some general garden variety bounty hunter. It removes that unquieness which is strange since all the other bfn charcters are super expressive except maybe the wildflower or tv head which have a general exercise cause there suppose to be minions.

  • @samuelantoniocastillomeza5034
    @samuelantoniocastillomeza5034 5 місяців тому +623

    The "Subtle Foreshadiwing" sign like it was a cartoon made me laugh more than it should.

    • @Stitched_up
      @Stitched_up 5 місяців тому +6

      That was a good gag 😂

  • @Geezer5572
    @Geezer5572 Місяць тому +22

    The biggest reason this game failed besides variants is the fact they tried to make it like a team fps like overwatch but what made garden warfare 1&2 so good is that the game always felt like a big brawl between team

    • @rng_riot
      @rng_riot 6 днів тому

      I actually like this style more and my childhood was garden warfare one I played for hours a day

  • @TaylorMAston
    @TaylorMAston 5 місяців тому +302

    From a visual perspective the game is beautiful and clearly had SO much work put into it, but the character design department is kind of lacking imo. I like the stealth mushroom though that's pretty cute. Also, the abilies/weapons in terms of game design are REALLY cool.

    • @astro_nut
      @astro_nut 5 місяців тому +37

      Personally I prefer the artstyle of the GW games but the BFN artstyle has its merits.

    • @TwilightChomperEnthusiast
      @TwilightChomperEnthusiast 5 місяців тому +42

      BFN absolutely NAILED the natural environment and lighting, but the character design and more urban areas didn’t feel very PvZ-like to me.

    • @ovite1240
      @ovite1240 5 місяців тому +6

      The redesigns are a bit controversial but the animations are farrr better than gw2

    • @astro_nut
      @astro_nut 5 місяців тому +13

      @@TwilightChomperEnthusiast I think it is fairly PvZ like generally I just prefer the artstyle of the first two games.
      They severely toned down the zombie environments in BFN imo while GW2 absolutely nailed them.

    • @astro_nut
      @astro_nut 5 місяців тому

      @@ovite1240 Idk about that, BFN has some funny new gestures though I guess.

  • @Yaviel580
    @Yaviel580 5 місяців тому +266

    That switch up is wild 💀

    • @hakuizunami6421
      @hakuizunami6421 20 днів тому

      Even if unintended that is a little bit of a pun to the fact switch got battle for neighborhood switch it up with switch battle for neighborhood

  • @BigDaddyKnez
    @BigDaddyKnez 5 місяців тому +131

    Maybe it’s just me, but the game just looks worse. Not just the change in artstyle, but it looks way too bright and giddy. What made PVZ so unique was its zany nature mixed with an unnerving touch of rigor mortis. Here, that is just gone
    edit: apparently rigor mortis is just when the corpse stiffens lol, so replace that with just “unnerving post apocalyptic aesthetic”. Shoutouts to @devking321 for being the educated hero we all deserve

    • @Ccubed92
      @Ccubed92 4 місяці тому +8

      You just yapping

    • @2diefor
      @2diefor 4 місяці тому +9

      GW1's style was the best. I dunno why they made the characters look like plastic toys in GW2.

    • @BigDaddyKnez
      @BigDaddyKnez 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Ccubed92 😐

    • @eltipo3men2
      @eltipo3men2 4 місяці тому +5

      @@2diefor Certainly got worse with each game. I still think in an ideal world, we have bfn’s gameplay fine tuned with the aesthetic of gw1. Perfection that will never be had

    • @SpaghettiLover5598
      @SpaghettiLover5598 2 місяці тому

      Yeah I agree it’s way too bright and giddy park

  • @adamnetski7887
    @adamnetski7887 5 місяців тому +232

    BFN isn't bad. Its nowhere near the masterpiece that is GW2 but its not bad.

    • @Haiku3603
      @Haiku3603 5 місяців тому +12

      Stop lying

    • @felipekane9611
      @felipekane9611 5 місяців тому +60

      @@Haiku3603 Bfn is actually good just not as good as Gw2

    • @Haiku3603
      @Haiku3603 5 місяців тому +10

      @@felipekane9611 maybe if it wasn’t clunky and half the abilities wouldn’t vanish randomly

    • @felipekane9611
      @felipekane9611 5 місяців тому +10

      @@Haiku3603 That never happened to me tbh

    • @Haiku3603
      @Haiku3603 5 місяців тому +3

      @@felipekane9611 it’s happens all the time with acorn and oak the sap shot with straight up disappeared or never detonate

  • @Bun_bunny195
    @Bun_bunny195 5 місяців тому +74

    Yeah apparently alot characters were planned to be added in this game,each character have unique gimmicks and even elemental characters were planned to be added in this game aswell as adding more legendary upgrades (which are the same as varients) to switch up playstyles,this game would have became better if they didn't discontinue it and still developed it but sadly none of was planned made it to the game thanks to Popcap,EA and the community
    You look good by the way

    • @thundrr1929
      @thundrr1929 Місяць тому

      Ah yes, they gave the corn a shield.
      A great variant.
      They gave rose an automated projectile.
      A great variant.

  • @ReadyplayeroneYT
    @ReadyplayeroneYT 5 місяців тому +33

    I unlocked the secret characters pretty fast, If you just complete like 2 story missions you should have enough.

  • @nicolascifuentes1318
    @nicolascifuentes1318 5 місяців тому +65

    0:04 this guy doesn't know it was for pc at first.

    • @IAmUnderscore
      @IAmUnderscore Місяць тому +6

      Yeah that was not a strong start to the video whatsoever

    • @ovalsquare
      @ovalsquare Місяць тому +3

      Yeah…

    • @Yourfat247
      @Yourfat247 29 днів тому

      @@nicolascifuentes1318 the popularity started and rose on mobile bruh

  • @weewoo3577
    @weewoo3577 5 місяців тому +29

    it’s such a shame this game never picked up it could’ve been so good

    • @rng_riot
      @rng_riot 6 днів тому

      Fr it's sad I really like this game I'm probably going to start playing it again

  • @GreenDeemonll
    @GreenDeemonll Місяць тому +4

    Battle for Neighbourville gets too much hate, while it deserves criticism, EA deserves all the HATE!

  • @GNVS300
    @GNVS300 3 місяці тому +5

    *sigh*... PopCap put the microtransactions in, NOT EA. And besides, you don't NEED to pay for the three new characters, you can unlock them with coins and rainbow stars, which are not hard to obtain.
    EA screwed over this game by cutting off its support right when it seemed like there was hope but the microtransactions were not their fault.

  • @LostxArmy
    @LostxArmy 5 місяців тому +14

    It def could have worked. It's crazy how dense pop cap is tho. They needed a lot more characters and upgrades at launch to make it work. With each element from garden warfare as a playable on each team as well.

    • @seymentheboss5194
      @seymentheboss5194 4 місяці тому +1

      It's most likely ea thinking about their pockets

  • @natedawg1114
    @natedawg1114 Місяць тому +2

    The point of the upgrades is you’re supposed to make your own variants.. for example vamp flower and rainbow flower are upgrades for sunflower.. and since you have cosmetics you still have creative freedom to make your plants or zombies look however you want

  • @TheEpic_Quagsire
    @TheEpic_Quagsire Місяць тому +4

    The only good thing in this game: Foot soldier run animation.

  • @somaloll
    @somaloll 26 днів тому +2

    They honestly did this game so dirty, i remember before this game came out it had almost 0 marketing like cmon ea

  • @sages101
    @sages101 4 місяці тому +10

    I think they pulled the plug because the fan base cried so hard about no variants that they were like. Ok you get nothing 👍🏻

  • @protoEHP
    @protoEHP 5 місяців тому +3

    As a titanfall fan at least you got a third game

  • @BryceWhisperer
    @BryceWhisperer 2 місяці тому +3

    Honestly, I actually like Battle For Neighborville. I think it had an amazing storymode and cool new classes. Plus, I actually love the artstyle. However, it's not as good as the style of the other two shooters.
    There are still a lot of priblems with the game that I do acknowledge. I feel like they spent too much time on making the backgrounds instead of the actual characters, and they removed variants. (I understand why they might've removed vatiants, but I mean it still kinsa sucks. )
    Ranking this on a teir list, it's definitely a step down from PvZ GW2 and GW1, but it sould be at least A tier. At least i's better than PvZ 3. (But anything is better than PvZ 3.)
    Plus, does anybody know what version of the PvZ track, "Crazy Dave" was in the beginning of this video?

  • @BradleyStansberry
    @BradleyStansberry Місяць тому +1

    Man I remember playing gw2 with my cousins. We'd all play as different imps (best class btw). Loved roleplaying in the offline hub just endlessly chasing each other, it was just a really fun and well designed map. We tried the robot mode all the time although we absolutely sucked at it and only once got close to unlocking a party sticker lol. Good times

  • @trinitroid7893
    @trinitroid7893 5 місяців тому +5

    Ever since they patched Acorn's Sticky Sap Trap, he can sometimes be a mixed in certain situations. I remember how busted this ability is, and it can deal incredible damage during the early days of this game... and then there's Space Cadet
    Seriously, despite being Space Cadet lacking long range abilities, she is more capable in dealing with any plant, including Acorn and Oak, where she can easily wipeout the entire squad with her Space Station, especially when she is attacking from above (and has a ton of health and dps).

    • @eltipo3men2
      @eltipo3men2 4 місяці тому

      Yeah, but her main primary fire outside of station is lacking in every department. EVERY SINGLE ONE. Reload is slow, fire rate is below average, damage is only decent, projectile speed is relatively slow, all “justified” by homing, as well her abilities being either kinda to literally trash without upgrades, and as good is the station is, it’s still slow, large, and vulnerable without passengers.

  • @lookmar10
    @lookmar10 5 місяців тому +61

    This is weirdly enough, my favorite PvZ shooter…
    No wonder I have no friends :(((

    • @TwilightChomperEnthusiast
      @TwilightChomperEnthusiast 5 місяців тому +30

      There are enough fans that like BFN. This is just not the right video for you then, as it’s clearly intended to attract GW2 elitists.

    • @lookmar10
      @lookmar10 5 місяців тому +8

      @@TwilightChomperEnthusiast Oh yeah, I was just messing around. I don’t know why, but I just have always loved BFN over GW2. (Even though I’ve been playing GW2 a lot on PC as of recently)
      (Oh yeah, random, but I have been seeing your GW3 idea videos, and I just wanna say good stuff!)

    • @TwilightChomperEnthusiast
      @TwilightChomperEnthusiast 5 місяців тому +5

      @@lookmar10 Thank you!

    • @wargreninja6704
      @wargreninja6704 5 місяців тому +5

      from what my sis tells me. The gameplay is phenomonal. its mostly marketing decisions and p2w elements that did it in

    • @TwilightChomperEnthusiast
      @TwilightChomperEnthusiast 5 місяців тому +5

      @@wargreninja6704 Ironically enough, BFN is the least P2W game of the three, as all the paid currency does is give you fancier outfits (which do nothing gameplay-wise), or act as a fast track to unlock legendary upgrades if you’re impatient. GW2 suffers from loot box syndrome and has two paid-only characters (one of which is my channel mascot funnily enough!)
      Gameplay is subjective, and I can’t decide on which physics engine I like more, but I really enjoy BFN’s snappier movement and faster-paced action. The marketing though, that’s completely on them, and I can’t defend it at all. It just sucks lol.

  • @Du11Moss
    @Du11Moss 5 місяців тому +42

    Isn’t snap dragon basically fire chomper

    • @jubal6654
      @jubal6654 5 місяців тому +3

      It is

    • @TwilightChomperEnthusiast
      @TwilightChomperEnthusiast 5 місяців тому +2

      Not quite… they play COMPLETELY differently. Even the primaries are different, despite being visually similar.

    • @binbagbeanie
      @binbagbeanie 5 місяців тому +9

      @@TwilightChomperEnthusiast oh my god it’s twilight chomper

    • @bradleycortes9161
      @bradleycortes9161 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@@TwilightChomperEnthusiastHey buddy, stop tryna be Unicorn Chomper

    • @TwilightChomperEnthusiast
      @TwilightChomperEnthusiast 5 місяців тому +1

      @@bradleycortes9161 👍

  • @KummerAli-zq9nk
    @KummerAli-zq9nk 12 днів тому +1

    Seeing the litteral game series of my childhood from gw 1 and 2 just get destroyed by BFN brings tears to me 😢

  • @sinner3877
    @sinner3877 5 місяців тому +12

    Man I love your GW content and I am happy that you get sponsors. Good Job man👍

  • @GooieGoobie
    @GooieGoobie Місяць тому +1

    i didn't understand how to play that game, i only knew that there was a tree and i could be a nut and go on top of the tree.

  • @Jess6000
    @Jess6000 4 місяці тому +21

    Bfn actually still has a large player base, surprisingly. Almost all of my lobbies were full.

    • @wk8637
      @wk8637 4 місяці тому +9

      I got the game today and waited for 30 mins in an empty lobby so I came investigate

    • @angelor9211
      @angelor9211 3 місяці тому +7

      Yeah it's just main issue being the pvp game modes are the only ones being played and the remaining players are pro's at the game

    • @BucketIHead
      @BucketIHead 2 місяці тому +2

      Its all filled with bots

    • @zombiecrusher
      @zombiecrusher Місяць тому +2

      @@BucketIHead nah

  • @kingnukeomega
    @kingnukeomega Місяць тому +2

    I unironically farmed the coins for all the characters and legendary upgrades
    I had way too much free time it seems

  • @fabiaaquino2207
    @fabiaaquino2207 5 місяців тому +15

    I actually buyed neighborville 1 year after it came out full price irl,with the box and everything.
    Since i knew gw2 i trought "welp the sequel may be good aswell"
    And then the dissapointment came.....
    And it hitted like a truck.
    I was 10 at the time,so i was stupid and yeah,guess i paid the price....

    • @EQOAnostalgia
      @EQOAnostalgia 4 місяці тому +1

      Buyers remorse. . . first time?

  • @RubyTheYeep
    @RubyTheYeep Місяць тому +1

    I think the reason most people hate it is because they’re used to gw, not a (mostly) story game. I honestly like how they made it more story based. It still has multiplayer and that’s honestly decent. My only complaint is the leveling/characters

  • @Mobking20
    @Mobking20 5 місяців тому +16

    Im not here to start rambling about this as a BFN fan, but the main point is that this is NOT a GW3 as GW2 was perfect enough and trying to expand on it would be waste of more materials then just updating GW2. The most common thing is I see is when people talk about GW2 its always new varients/maps and it doesn't expand or give off a new feeling that GW2 has. That's what BFN tried to do, it gave the game actual teamwork and not some solo warfare gameplay, they gave more opinions for players to fight PvP, PvE, etc. The upgrades are basically variants but you make your own, and allows you to make your own playstyle and not being limited while giving almost every upgrade a purpose while some GW2 and GW1 variants are too broken or so bad no one uses them. So BFN fixed all those problems but no one likes change and that is ok. Lastly, the art style for the game feels like pvz as its always been goofing through the games, ads, and comics. They made it like that to make it feel like PVZ and even giving social interactions with text bubbles and giddy park to connect everyone compared to how isolated GW2 is.

    • @eltipo3men2
      @eltipo3men2 4 місяці тому

      This. This is it. This is EXACTLY what happened.

    • @chichibooxd4793
      @chichibooxd4793 Місяць тому +1

      The real problem is EA dropped support so fast.

  • @Lov-Atl
    @Lov-Atl 15 днів тому +1

    The complain on the unlockable character’s is clearly just bias + skill issue, it’s way too easy to get these guys

  • @Nicksolvo
    @Nicksolvo 4 місяці тому +2

    On the sponsor, I tried a similar service and it automatically took me out of ZERO services, it just gave me steps on how to do it and what to email and what not. Some of them weren’t even accurate, so I’m not won over by this, and neither should you

  • @bulletbro4745
    @bulletbro4745 5 місяців тому +7

    As someone who’s max ranked bfn and is getting close to max ranking garden warfare 2. I’ll give my thoughts. A lot of the problems everyone has with BFN is that it isn’t what Gw2 was. No variants, sprinting, etc… but I decided to look a this from both sides. The thing is that Bfn isn’t garden warfare, it’s in the title that it says it’s basically another spin-off. I don’t think they can make a garden warfare 3 because garden warfare 2 pretty much already did everything. Yeah there’s more characters but they aren’t gonna make Gw3 just to add more characters, Gw2 added so much off of Gw1 and did it perfectly. They really could’ve only made a spin-off from there, but the problem was that Garden Warfare had no support after that. If they wanted to make a spin off, I wouldn’t blame them but the problem is they ditched gw2 for Bfn. That’s a TERRIBLE idea for many reasons, but I won’t get into that. This is where the criticism drew. I say that BFN isn’t a terrible game, it was still really fun completing the prize map and the Pve was honestly really creative. Giddy park (as toxic as it may be) is super creative and can be pretty fun sometimes. However, right now it definitely sucks. They left the game with a drastic meta, and it’s filled with terrible bugs. My take is that BFN isn’t a horrible game, but bfn players have to stop lying to themselves, saying that the game is better than Gw2, despite never having played gw2 genuinely in the longest time. I used to be one of those people and it’s just not true. Sure, BFN had a ton of potential, and I don’t know anyone who thinks that BFN didn’t have potential. The problem was honestly both the community and the developers decisions. If they ever come back to develop pvz games, they’re better off updating gw2 if not both. I don’t really see how a gw3 could fit into the equation anymore, if it even could to begin with. Those are my thoughts.

    • @eltipo3men2
      @eltipo3men2 4 місяці тому

      This is basically it, but I will say that while you can say that gw2 is better technically, they are a bit too different in terms of… almost everything to directly compare what’s better especially considering that the game is just not as “finished” per se. And tbh, I think with more skill and teamwork in mind, the game is more balanced than gw2, with maybe a few exceptions…

    • @NeonSqueaky
      @NeonSqueaky 28 днів тому

      Honestly BFN is pretty great, as a game its pretty perfect outside of the many game breaking glitches, most of them ones the general community doesn't know about (thank god) and the INSANE lack of balance. People just give it a lot of hate because it's not Garden Warfare 3, but it was never meant to be. It's got very good pve content and actually pretty good character customisation unlike GW2, I genuinely think the upgrade system in BFN is actually way better designed than people give it credit for. I feel like most people shit on the upgrade system just because it isn't variants (and also most of the time because they just suck at BFN).

    • @bulletbro4745
      @bulletbro4745 28 днів тому

      @@NeonSqueaky I mostly agree with you. This brings back to the point that their best option was to support both games, not ditch one for another

  • @requ1emYBA
    @requ1emYBA Місяць тому +1

    Ive always liked neighborville purely because i can go on the flank, almost die, and regen in 10 seconds and get all my health back and go in again.

  • @aspabr
    @aspabr 5 місяців тому +5

    Moral of the story: "If it ain't broke, dont fix it"
    Just to make sure, if I'm going to play a fps PvZ, the go to is GW2, right?
    Also that remix at 18:58 if fire.

  • @slime_creeper8189
    @slime_creeper8189 3 місяці тому +1

    Honestly, the game suffers from being released unfinished. I see what they tried to do and I think they would have released more special abilities for other plants besides super brains, rose and corn. PVZ GW 2 had all the 1st games variants with other characters and more variants released later on while BFN had no variants (fewer characters) which means fewer ways to play so people run out of things to do in game having done all of what a character can do within a few hours.

  • @MaxDuran-lv1pz
    @MaxDuran-lv1pz 5 місяців тому +6

    Bro the Cheeto Chomper part had me dying 😭

  • @tanethemage4350
    @tanethemage4350 4 місяці тому +1

    Whenever I started to try to play this game, it was overrun with nightcaps built for regening health instantly and having fung Foo on cooldown, or the same pair of guys sitting in thier spawn and spamming dandelions/ impsicles for the entire round. These guys would pick new players to camp and would CONSTANTLY bully anyone even vaguely engaging them, or would go on server wide pub stomp. Months later, they were still doing it and generally would ruin the experience.
    There was of course the weird balancing, like making Soldier the worst zombie, and the awful spam of "Every ability one shots you with the world's largest hit box". Hell, the only three Zombies that could survive fung Foo were All star IF You tackled the night cap, pirate IF you immediately jumped into your barrel, and Electric slide if you used her immunity ability. Outside of that, you'd get free kills all day.

  • @SlimyCatMc
    @SlimyCatMc Місяць тому +5

    GW2 Was best.

  • @MBTGG-YTP
    @MBTGG-YTP 29 днів тому +1

    I actually love BFN, unfortunately there's so many glitches, where sometimes it would Softlock you, and you have to close the software and go back in.

    • @NeonSqueaky
      @NeonSqueaky 28 днів тому

      Thank god the general community has no idea about a lot of the glitches in the game because some of them are insane. The few that are common knowledge are really tame compared to some of the techniques and glitches we've hidden from the community over the years.

  • @macci47
    @macci47 5 місяців тому +5

    Ngl, the way pop cap released the game is similar to how tiny build released Hello Neighbour search and rescue, totally not a plug for one of my videos

  • @CelestialCitron
    @CelestialCitron 8 днів тому +1

    BFN isn’t bad, people are just comparing it to a perfect game.

  • @vectinator7605
    @vectinator7605 3 місяці тому +4

    They should have followed the Garden Warfare 1 and 2 formula with more stuff, but instead they tried to make this more like Overwatch and Team Fortress. Not only did they remove the class variants but they watered them down to their most basic form.
    The Snap Dragon was a class I wanted in the next Garden Warfare, but it’s basically just the fire or acid breathing variant of the Chomper.

  • @CosseWasTaken
    @CosseWasTaken 5 місяців тому +2

    I saw the bow from the 80s action hero and the way you explained it made me say "I've seen this before" before the splatoon flashbacks came flooding back

  • @mguymario
    @mguymario 5 місяців тому +14

    IDK why you did not just get the Switch version since it fixes a lot of issues with the game like making it so you can do the battler pass at any time in any order, lowering the price of stuff in the shop, and removing microtractions

    • @jubal6654
      @jubal6654 5 місяців тому +1

      Doesn't fix the core problems and imagine playing a shooter with a controller lmao

    • @mguymario
      @mguymario 5 місяців тому

      @@jubal6654 It does have gyro support for aiming so it does fix some issues if you are ok with using gyro

    • @Megajaybreaker4
      @Megajaybreaker4 5 місяців тому +9

      @@jubal6654you play the GW games on mouse and keyboard? WHATS WRONG WITH YOU!
      How do you even have your hands in a comfortable position!?

    • @mmmmmmmmmmmmmMicrowav
      @mmmmmmmmmmmmmMicrowav 5 місяців тому +4

      "you should buy a slightly less bad version of the same dogshit game that has zero balance improvements and is locked to 30fps!!!!"

    • @TwilightChomperEnthusiast
      @TwilightChomperEnthusiast 5 місяців тому +4

      @@mmmmmmmmmmmmmMicrowavNot gonna lie, BFN’s character roster was overall more balanced than GW2 characters. The sheer number of characters there are in GW2 is what made up for it! Plus, I love GW2’s slightly BS gameplay. It adds charm!

  • @munguwangu0
    @munguwangu0 4 місяці тому +1

    I hate thinking about this game because it reminds me of the dark truth that we won’t be getting another shooter anytime soon. honestly if PopCap had a brain behind any of the execs they would have kept gw2 updating and let bfn truly spread its wings as a spin-off to the franchise to get some power behind the franchise. like imagine if the game got its full potential and in an eventual mainline follow up they get all of the good from both gw2 and bfn (and preferably use gw1 art style) and make that as the true finale of the shooter trilogy

  • @notatimetraveler6444
    @notatimetraveler6444 4 місяці тому +1

    While the game’s graphics are beautiful, the art style is too damn goofy.
    And for those who are saying it’s just a call back to roots.
    Yes, PvZ was goofy, but it also had dark undertones.
    Also there is no argument to be made about the lack of variants.

  • @BotheredCommie
    @BotheredCommie 3 місяці тому +1

    The original Plants vs. Zombies was a PC game it later got ported to mobile

  • @stormingchad5181
    @stormingchad5181 5 місяців тому +6

    anyone know what the song at the start is i know its a remix of gw main theme

    • @MewZe
      @MewZe  5 місяців тому +2

      I made it!! It’s on my SoundCloud :)

    • @stormingchad5181
      @stormingchad5181 5 місяців тому

      @@MewZe thanks love the vids btw 😂

  • @alexandersalgado281
    @alexandersalgado281 Місяць тому +1

    Why did they make citron look so different man 💀... They should kept his sunglasses he looked so cool with those and i dont remember his eyes so big peashooter looks even more scary its his eyes 💀 and i dont rlly like the quality of it it deserves a 7/10.. the designs dont look impressive - they made them uglier theres barely any excitement in this game 💀💀💀💀 quest are boring

  • @xray8012
    @xray8012 5 місяців тому +2

    A funny note about Giddy Park: TV Head and Wildflower can go OUT OF BOUNDS with one of their abilities, with acorn and wizard needing a bit more setup to achieve this...

    • @NeonSqueaky
      @NeonSqueaky 28 днів тому

      So can SB and Deadbeard in certain spots but that's by far the most tame of the giddy park glitches in the game 😭

  • @nathanmitchamore2188
    @nathanmitchamore2188 5 місяців тому +5

    Srry matpat quit

  • @jacobb.9181
    @jacobb.9181 13 днів тому

    The scientist character was broken 3 seperate times throughout the games life. Every time they fixed his issues, theyd add some new bullshit to make him overpowered again.

  • @LostTemplars
    @LostTemplars 5 місяців тому +7

    BFN is a good game, the reason everyone was mad was because it wasn’t gw3

    • @mmmmmmmmmmmmmMicrowav
      @mmmmmmmmmmmmmMicrowav 5 місяців тому +1


      people hate it because it is genuinely awful and unfun
      PLEASE tell me how you have fun fighting nothing but shit players who rely on cheap or cheesy strategies or upgrades to win the game for them

    • @LostTemplars
      @LostTemplars 5 місяців тому +3

      @@mmmmmmmmmmmmmMicrowav Not everyone is shit at the game tho?

    • @NEON69420
      @NEON69420 5 місяців тому +4

      @@mmmmmmmmmmmmmMicrowav some gw2 characters also have cheap and cheesy abillities

    • @LostTemplars
      @LostTemplars 5 місяців тому

      @@NEON69420 E M P E A C H

    • @madmonty4761
      @madmonty4761 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@LostTemplarsno people hate it because it wanted to be overwatch.corn sucks,ruined deadbeard,maps have no charm

  • @VacaSuprema
    @VacaSuprema 3 місяці тому +1

    3:42 still my favorite plant of all times,i dont think he is just a chomper,its not why it is close combat that is a chomper,he breaths FIRE,trow fire balls,have totaly diferent habilitys.

  • @clownythunder1932
    @clownythunder1932 4 місяці тому +1

    Greed, lack of gameplay, being lesser in balance and replay ability than it’s previous instalments

  • @TheScout27
    @TheScout27 5 місяців тому +8

    HE FINALLY GOT A SPONSER! WOOOO CONGRATS MAN LOVE YOUR VIDEOS THERE SO FUNNY

  • @aRandomBingus
    @aRandomBingus 4 місяці тому +2

    9:32 not to be rude but there’s still cosmetics? I was checking since I remembered I had the game and I have a skin for the imp.

  • @rudyr5706
    @rudyr5706 5 місяців тому +5

    I remember all those games All Og

  • @personguy6987
    @personguy6987 3 місяці тому +1

    Also what they did to the Garden & Graveyard Ops is utterly despicable.

  • @iffy5bassthunder677
    @iffy5bassthunder677 Місяць тому +1

    I am in my fifties, and I play alot of shooter games.
    I have to say, after 1100 hours, I still love hopping into this game!!! It is still fun for me, and I love all the cartoony characters.
    Out of all the shooters I play, this one has the most hours played on it, so I am not really sure why people hate it so much.
    Oh well. Cannot please everyone. 🤙

  • @Probablyhere
    @Probablyhere 5 місяців тому +4

    I thought it was alright. Though I didn't play the first 2

  • @justq8937
    @justq8937 5 місяців тому +1

    A way that the upgrade system could've been better implemented would've been to give visual indicators for the upgrades and to parallel the variants in the GW games, that way there could've been builds that would function identically to previous variants or even combinations of multiple variants, making it the system easier to understand and allow making your ultimate load-outs

  • @Speefosh
    @Speefosh 5 місяців тому +13

    correct title: Battle For Neighborville: The Game That The Community Killed

    • @astro_nut
      @astro_nut 5 місяців тому +13

      Nah it was cooked from the start PopCap/EA stopped giving a shit about this series a long time ago just look what they have been doing with PvZ 3 and PvZ Match.

    • @henrycelin8929
      @henrycelin8929 5 місяців тому

      community killed? lmfao EA killed it with their trash decisions, not us

    • @zeethenecromancer
      @zeethenecromancer 5 місяців тому +5

      I'm not sure where people get the idea that the community bullied the devs into stopping, the game had 0 marketing and unsurprisingly sold badly, so EA cut funding

    • @astro_nut
      @astro_nut 5 місяців тому +1

      @@zeethenecromancer I think the game was barely even allowed to release honestly.
      It’s clear that EA/PopCap have decided to turn PvZ from a genuine game franchise into a low effort mobile slop pivot with games like PvZ 3 and PvZ Match.
      PvZ 2 was a genuine fantastic sequel to the first game but after finishing Modern Day they started dragging it with some pretty bad updates to the point where I tend to recommend people to just go play an old version of the game or a mod called Reflourished.

  • @T-Bone_SSteak
    @T-Bone_SSteak 2 місяці тому

    The actual shooting felt amazing but removing variants absolutely killed it for me

  • @Plasma6657
    @Plasma6657 12 днів тому

    Other big problems
    1. The only thing the "run" button did was make the maps too big and feel empty
    2. Make every character have some sort of utility, like they removed corn airstrike? WHY?
    2.1. Wtf were the cactus and pirate reworks? Like a slow charge meter for an almost 1 shot? Plus useless mobility abilities
    3. Not only are the maps bigger, but the fact lobbies are smaller made the game feel even emptier
    One thing is if they tweaked the upgrades to replace the ones from gw2 and kept the varients it could have been great, i really liked the more character specific upgrades besides '10 more health' or 'useless zoom upgrade' from gw2
    I loved the large amount of mostly well designed new characters, but the way its all put together makes it always feel weird, the team-up characters were ok on their own and broken with 4, old characters were changed in ways that werent more fun unlike how the only change from gw1 to gw2 was giving the zombie drone to pirate and giving engie a fun stationary minigun turret
    The only thing i loved were the turf takeover ending minigames, even if some were really similar to old ones they were still fun, unique and charming
    If they ever make an actual gw3, i hope they keep the gw2 designs for characters, rework the bfn characters (especially acorn and cadet), and give us some varients ffs
    Also bring back and improve infinity time that was fun but wow it had some issues
    Im missing a big point but its 3 am and i feel like im about to pass out, although it doesnt matter cuz whos gonna read this essay anyways?

  • @zachpro5475
    @zachpro5475 5 місяців тому +3

    2:05 what’s that face in the corner

  • @Jakethegr8244
    @Jakethegr8244 3 місяці тому +2

    I love how the most replayed part of the video is after the sponsor. XD

  • @Lightspeed840
    @Lightspeed840 2 місяці тому +1

    I liked Battle For Neighborville for like a year and a half but after a while i got bored of the game because i completed the whole main story

  • @gloom5405
    @gloom5405 4 місяці тому +1

    i cant imagine someone actually putting microtransactions into a 40$ game 💀

  • @Elite-fo4zy
    @Elite-fo4zy 5 місяців тому +1

    I’m a diehard pvz fan, i still play it and I don’t think any pvz game is a bad game

  • @lordgrub12345
    @lordgrub12345 5 місяців тому +8

    I loved this game, ngl. People really overhated it bc of the lack of variants. Still one of my favorite pvp games.

    • @Megajaybreaker4
      @Megajaybreaker4 5 місяців тому +9

      You’ve heard of EA bad, Popcap good.
      now prepare for BFN bad, GW good.
      I don’t even hate GW2, I just hate these overdone things

    • @mmmmmmmmmmmmmMicrowav
      @mmmmmmmmmmmmmMicrowav 5 місяців тому +7

      ​@@Megajaybreaker4Fr, genuinely so tired of people sucking off gw2 like it's the greatest game on the planet and isn't the most shitly balanced shooter game I've ever played in my life💀

    • @TwilightChomperEnthusiast
      @TwilightChomperEnthusiast 5 місяців тому +8

      @@mmmmmmmmmmmmmMicrowavGW2 is my favourite game ever, but its flaws are very apparent, mainly the balance. BFN was certainly… different, but I can’t help but applaud the balls PopCap must have had to make such a bold decision for the franchise, even if it backfired.

    • @henrycelin8929
      @henrycelin8929 5 місяців тому

      @@mmmmmmmmmmmmmMicrowav you sound like you the guy that got bullied by plasma and electric peashooters for being bad at the game lmfao. gw2 is not the best game in history but it's better than this battle for trashville atrocity

    • @mmmmmmmmmmmmmMicrowav
      @mmmmmmmmmmmmmMicrowav 5 місяців тому +5

      @@henrycelin8929 🆗

  • @TheKaijuKing54
    @TheKaijuKing54 5 місяців тому +1

    I'm so happy to see GrubZe return! Even if it was just for two seconds. (He appeared at 1:33 for anyone wondering.)

  • @pwas4040
    @pwas4040 5 місяців тому +5

    Every single bfn review is the same

    • @Megajaybreaker4
      @Megajaybreaker4 5 місяців тому +3

      Remember: i-it bad because it’s not GW3 (even though it is literally called BFN and not GW3).

    • @astro_nut
      @astro_nut 5 місяців тому +7

      @@Megajaybreaker4Aside from the fact game is literally called GW3 internally, they literally ceased development of GW2 updates for this.
      It would be one thing if they were still updating GW2 or developing a proper GW3 and BFN was just this spin-off thing on the side, but it straight up placed itself as a replacement.

  • @Bearinguard
    @Bearinguard 3 місяці тому

    If I had a Nickle, for every time, Pop cap makes a bad 3rd part of a PvZ game, I would have 2 Nickels.

  • @A_Surpluss_of_Stupidity
    @A_Surpluss_of_Stupidity 5 місяців тому +5

    I actually really like this game

    • @NoUserU
      @NoUserU 5 місяців тому +1

      Same, people hate it for no reason

  • @darklord1366
    @darklord1366 2 місяці тому

    I feel sad that we may never get another third person pvz for a long time… being a plants be zombies fan I remember when I was little it was a nice Christmas morning and I was with my family and we were all around a tree and I remember… when I open a present and I opened a box… down at the very bottom of the box… garden warfare 2. I was so pumped that i had finally gotten my hands on the game like a little toddler. And when I played it… it felt like magic… I fell in love with the game. I also played garden warfare 1 which was way before I got garden warfare 2 but that’s besides the point. Garden warfare 2 and 1 were both two of the most greatest pvz shooters games ive ever played. I never felt the same join with BFN like how I did with the other two games. And I don’t think we will ever get another plants vs zombies shooter again.

  • @Megajaybreaker4
    @Megajaybreaker4 5 місяців тому +8

    People when a game isn’t GW: >:(
    Also, this is just another EA bad Popcap good video from a segment I just saw. you do realize that 1.5M isn’t that much… right? maybe if you had something known as PATIENCE, then you would’ve gotten them

    • @TwilightChomperEnthusiast
      @TwilightChomperEnthusiast 5 місяців тому +4

      I wouldn’t call this an EA bad PopCap good video, but instead a video simply expressing the popular opinion. Unfortunately, said popular opinion involves hating on a game, so it only spreads toxicity within the community which I don’t particularly enjoy.

    • @henrycelin8929
      @henrycelin8929 5 місяців тому +1

      @@TwilightChomperEnthusiast I would call this an EA bad PopCap good video, but instead a video simply expressing the popular opinion. Fortunately, said popular opinion involves hating on a game, so it only spreads toxicity within the community which i do particularly enjoy.

    • @Megajaybreaker4
      @Megajaybreaker4 5 місяців тому +1

      @@TwilightChomperEnthusiast I was talking about the part where he said “you can blame EA for this” when talking about the three unlockable characters.

    • @astro_nut
      @astro_nut 5 місяців тому +3

      @@Megajaybreaker4 Both are full of blame for this series downfall when they decided to take away the decision making powers away from the creatives and put the executives in charge.
      Without EA we would’ve never gotten GW to begin with but they are also to blame for pushing the Neighborville reboot project.

    • @Stillbraixentho
      @Stillbraixentho 5 місяців тому

      I mean GW was an actually relatively balanced and fun game. just sayin'

  • @asgorne
    @asgorne Місяць тому

    The lobby was so bad. I didnt play any of the game because the first impression of a infinite battleground was extremely dissapointing, compared to the entertaining game loop I was accustomed to.
    First impressions really do matter

  • @thegreatalfini
    @thegreatalfini 5 місяців тому +97

    L video neighborville diffs your whole channel

    • @struck5010
      @struck5010 5 місяців тому +47

      I’ve played all garden warfare games, battle for neighborhood is just garden warfare 2 but bad, no passion found within the game

    • @jubal6654
      @jubal6654 5 місяців тому +22

      Lmao no neighborville is a poor man's Garden warfare

    • @sleepiestsleepy.
      @sleepiestsleepy. 5 місяців тому +7

      pretty sure he was joking guys.

    • @Sniffe278
      @Sniffe278 5 місяців тому +5

      Ur joking right?

    • @uncommonlevel
      @uncommonlevel 5 місяців тому +7

      He ratios u in subs doe 😭

  • @kurosaki-kageyoshi3164
    @kurosaki-kageyoshi3164 3 місяці тому +1

    I think the worst part of the game was them taking variants off but giving specific characters variant dmg like why make the game less optional? I hope they make smth like the first game with the new characters like imagine a ice mushroom overall 1st game 🔛🔝

  • @OptimusPrime1563
    @OptimusPrime1563 5 місяців тому

    Fun fact: PvZGW1 was meant to be way more violent and meant for older audience but if you can tell it didn't happen.

  • @aquaimperative5618
    @aquaimperative5618 24 дні тому

    Genuinely Im convinced that the game would feel so much better if sprinting just wasnt a thing

  • @Ferdinand_VonAegir
    @Ferdinand_VonAegir 5 місяців тому +1

    All I'm saying about the acorn and space cadet is that there's a reason the z-mech has a cooldown

  • @Munzee09
    @Munzee09 Місяць тому

    Ea talking about how to make bfn: so the garden warfare games are about the classes and their variants, but what if we got rid of the variants? OMG, WHAT A GENIUS!!!!!!!!

  • @JubbJubb_
    @JubbJubb_ 5 місяців тому +2

    I clicked on this video expecting another one the Danerade & VileHyperion-esc reviews which just say “no variants xddd” and then end the video, but this video actually gave the game a chance and, for the first time I’ve ever seen, treated the game fairly. Also you’re genuinely funny- so that automatically makes you better than half the other reviewers for this game lmao. All I’d recommend is to change the title of the video because it just blends in with all the other reviews.
    Edit: the title has been changed, W video.

  • @dzeppetto3143
    @dzeppetto3143 5 місяців тому +1

    New characters are pretty cool but change from variants to upgrades is not worth it tbh

  • @VacaSuprema
    @VacaSuprema 3 місяці тому +1

    2:13 finaly someone who understand me!

  • @Monkeyman2134
    @Monkeyman2134 Місяць тому +1

    yo im ngl bro yo a whole opp for not separating the snapperdragon from chomper they are very different

  • @SpaghettiLover5598
    @SpaghettiLover5598 2 місяці тому

    This brought me back traumatic memories when my dad got jumped by some zombies in the town center, unfortunately not even his morning oak could save him 😢

  • @-Mr.Cookie-
    @-Mr.Cookie- 2 місяці тому

    Once I found out that they removed sticker packs, I knew it was going to be bad.

  • @ZimZamTheSpaceMan
    @ZimZamTheSpaceMan 5 місяців тому +2

    At its current state, this feels like a demo to a game

    • @TwilightChomperEnthusiast
      @TwilightChomperEnthusiast 5 місяців тому +1

      That’s honestly the best way to put it. Had it gotten an extra year or two of development, it would have felt more complete.

    • @astro_nut
      @astro_nut 5 місяців тому +1

      Zombies literally have one more class than the plants which is the most obvious giveaway of this game being cut short lol.
      They had more classes planned some of which were already in the files (the next plant class was supposed to be Iceberg Lettuce which was very close to being finished).

  • @onefreekicker2957
    @onefreekicker2957 Місяць тому

    The only thing we needed from the third game is to sum up all the advantages from the first and second game,because to be real there are some disadvantages in the sequel (gw2),and they make the game nearly at the same lvl as the first one but still both GOATED.(I don’t wanna write all the things they need to avoid and all the things they need to sum up,because we all know if the new game would be released-it’s gonna a year-2052 at least)