Suzuki GSX-S1000 | 150 BHP for Sub 10k??
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- The Suzuki GSX-S1000 isn't exactly cutting edge in the design and technology department. But with a new model perhaps on the horizon, now is the perfect time to pick up an absolute bargain!
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In an era when all we hear about are bikes that go for 20k it's nice to have a basic beast available for half that.
R1 Big bang...hold this?
@ScouseNinja 636 Every demo bike ever spent its "break-in miles" bouncing off the rev limiter, downshifting w/o the clutch, and generally being ragged on. I'll pass.
and by god she goes....
I have a 2016 model, bought as a year-old leftover, brand new. 9500usd out the door. Wouldn't trade it for anything.
People love Dogging Suzuki. I can never figure out why...they are reliable and they don't overcharge for the performance they offer...I look at it like this car makers don't offer new redesigns every three years nobody gripes but for some reason motorcyclists expect the newest thing every year. (My philosophy is keep it simple if it ain't broke don't fix it)
Truth.
I always kept my bandit as it was my first bike and couldn't get rid of it (didn't want to) bought me a new Kawasaki and after 1 year lots of troubles with it which it shouldn't have... Thinking of getting rid of my kawa and switching it for a New Suzuki.. They might not have the best image but they are bang for buck and sure as hell reliable and quality is very good compared to kawasaki
Well said 👍🏼🙋♂️👍🏼
I like the fact it still a bit old school. Build to be used on the road.
To us old guys old school is carbureted air cooled no ABS traction control bikes like my 2001 Bandit. Got the GSXS this year. A 2019 for $9000 USD. Love it. Mods include a Wilbers shock and M4 exhaust with Woolich Racing autotune software.
@@tomdickharryjane GS1000's and GPZ1100 are when I first got into bikes. But with modern emissions we will never see their like again.
Suzuki bikes are timeless. They never get outdated. Even the 15 year old K5 still keeps up with modern superbikes.
Engineering excellence of Suzuki is 🔥
Just love their bikes.
All 15 y/o sport bikes are still awesome and more than fast enough and the design of many still hold up aesthetically too, not that much has really changed. Saying that, even my 12 y/o 650r keeps up well with a modern S1krr, K1300 and MT-10, and the 15 y/o zx10r's I ride with 😎
I got the 2020 F version in June and I love it! SUZUKI MotoGP World Champions 2020 🏁🏍️
I bought a year old 160 miler for 7k. The absolute hands down bargain bike of the century.
For a every day commuter, tourer through to a weekend play machine, this is as close as you get to the perfect bike for the money. We are spoiled for choice, but do you really need any more power, handling and braking?? The ergonomics are near perfect. how many negative reviews do you read about Suzuki's in general? Suzuki inline 4's are smooth, bullet proof works of art. Yes, they may not have the latest electronics but as like my L6 GSXR 750, it is a real riders bike, All the inputs come from you and that makes you a better rider. I also own a DRZ400E and that design has not changed for 20 years and they still sell like hot cakes for a reason.
It's a proper old school Street Battler and it's no worse off for it, Great Machine for the money.
Owners are dynoing these and getting 150 at the wheel.Great bikes for the money
I've also seen brand new 19 plates going for £8500
Remap and it's 160+ at the wheel👍
Yep full Yoshi system and 162 at the wheel
i do road side photography near Loomies cafe and i gotta say, the GSX-S1000 is really popular bike on the roads, i'm certain it's for many good reasons.
Good honest test ,I have owned one for nearly 4 years .The good points are the engine clutch gearbox the seat general riding position reliably (58000kms not one problem) and the sound. The GSX-S will stay with a BMW S1000R in a drag race.The throttle response is easily improved by removing the air box restrictor, a arko slip on and making sure that theTPS unit is adjusted correctly . The bad points are the suspension which is crap,it's hard to work on and the brake pads need an upgrade ( easily done). The GSX-S is great on fuel never uses oil between changes.Overall the GSX-S is top value for the money ; but now I want 1290 Superduke
I'm on my second GSX S now but just Bought F version after a year on the mt 09...It's great to be back on the Suzuki great bike with a stonking engine roll on the spring and the better weather!
Still the scariest bike I’ve ever owned. It constantly wanted to flick me off into the bush. I did love the top end rush though. Felt like warp drive engaging.
I picked mine up last month on a brilliant deal, it's got everything you need, more electronics more headaches. With the money you save, new can, power commander and QS. It looks, rides and handles beautifully. I love it. As Chopsy says for the money....it's a bargain!
Great video again chops. I must say that K5 engine is a peach and the exhaust note from the standard can is not bad either. I've had one of these machines now for about 2 year's and one thing that doesn't really get mentioned is the fuel range and economy.....this bike can easily get high 40's to low 50 mpg quite easily even if you are a bit throttle happy. I've even gone from Hampshire to Devon/Cornwall border on one tank of fuel. 👌😁
I've got a 2016 GSX-S1000 and it's simply awesome! I've got a power commander, ECU flash and healtech QS, throttle is very nice, responsive and smooth now. It's a beast!
Hey I have the same bike and got a ecu flash on mine and still has a twitchy throttle. Does that go away after adding a power commander? I may have to get a dyno done for it since dynojet doesnt have a tune for this bike on there website.
@@motorcycleislife8296 I purchased the bike with the ECU flash and power commander already installed although the previous owner had told me that he wasn't totally satisfied with the throttle until after he had put the power commander on the bike. I've only ridden it with both and never had an issue so it's probably worth it. I believe Dynojet had one tune available on their site that the previous owner of my bike put on.
I've got the 2018 model and have ridden many bikes and I can say that this bike is an absolute tire shredding beast, from dead stop to 150 it's insane ! Simple an comfortable, add rear shock, steering damper an ride !
Great review sir
I had a 2015 Gsxs 1000 and a 2016 mt09
To this day I still don’t understand why people buy the mt09 over this
Because these are £5k and you can get mt09 for £3.5k
@@stephenmcqueen4029 not sure where you are,
Especially in the used market there very similar in price
@@ur2slob724 on eBay uk, mt09 £3800, gsx1000s £5100. Those are cheapest examples.
@@stephenmcqueen4029 Yes, but the MT 09 doesn't make anywhere near 150 hp like this beast does.
@@fyorbane I had one, I hated it
Thanks for doing a video on this bike again.
It's interesting to see how you find it compared to the more expensive bikes.
my 2015 gsxs has a arrow can and ive deleted the exhaust valve cables with a flashed ecu and it screams!
my front brake has that lever issues lots of movement before engagement, some days is good and it doesn't travel as much, but mostly it does.
the rear shock does have rebound adjust screw. check out the other side and you'll see a little screw. thanks for the video chopsy!
I have a 2017 model with a yoshi r11 pipe and a translogic quick shifter, I absolutely love it. Keep up the good work.
Yeah, superb bit of kit, not tried any others but chops reckons it's probably the best after market shifters in a previous vlog.
Bought one earlier this your original review helped, decat and remap its now a different animal absolutely mental
I don't know about yours, but the stock fueling on mine was atrocious - the fuel cut on deceleration made the on/off throttle so snatchy it was nearly unrideable. An ECU flash and TPS adjustment later, it rides like it should've from the factory.
Yes mine was horrible too, very hard to ride at steady speeds, it is a tiny bit lumpy low down still due to decat reducing the back pressure but not terrible
Mine is a 2015 red and black and had no trouble with the fuelling or throttle. Great bike. Who needs all the gizmos. No one with 140+bhp can’t use full throttle anywhere on the road. More than
enough mid-range. Old school.
On the road the average rider would be as quick as anyone else.
Just picked up a 2017, first impressions are it'll be an awesome first litre bike. Roll on when we can go out and ride.
I've got the GSXR1000 K5 and absolutely love it👍
I had the 2015 model, great bike just needs a decent aftermarket rear shock. For me the appeal of the gsx was the lack of electronics...
I have the GSXS750. Paid 6K preregistered new. Brilliant bike. I like normal bikes. The new crop of super nakeds are amazing but pretty pointless. No one needs 200bhp on the road.
I have a mat grey gsxs 1000 2015 model and i love it. Handles very wel and has enough power true the gears.
I used to own a B-King a nd never needed the valve clearances shimmed. I read on a forum that one owner, who serviced his own bike, never had to do a shim in 80,000 miles. My mechanic in Portimao told me that the big Suzuki inline fours were like that. That is something I like. I wouldn't mind a big inline four again and find the CB1000R attractive to look at. Very much so, but this bike has more mid-range, looks okay and has that engine. Shame they're too pricey in Thailand, where I spend most of my year now.
The usual first-class review from a man who really knows his bikes and can really ride.
Great review. Had a lengthy test ride on one of these when I was trading in my gsxr. Should have been a natural progression, until I tried the Kawasaki z1000sx. Kawasaki , for me, won by a mile. Had two very happy years on it.😀
I rode both back to back in Daytona earlier this year. The kwak is a dog in the handling department, and the Suzi's K5 heart simply shalacks Kwak's lump in every way. No contest really for me.
Lovely bike. I’m curious? The art of clutch-less shifting seems to be forgotten. I do it instinctively and wonder why it’s not talked about more in view of mixed opinions on quick shifters. A blog on this subject would be great. Oh yeah.... what news on the hyper? (Joke) ;-)
I'm 23 and sir clutchless shifting hasn't been forgotten. However once you experience a quick shifter nothing compares.
I mention clutchless shifting in several of my reviews (didn't happen to mention it when I rode this one). I've been doing it for 30-odd years with varying degrees of success! (the shifting, not the reviews!)
Thanks Ricky ...just subscribed to your channel :-)
@@andrewlucas6214 That's awesome thank you 😊
Pre pressure the gear lever, jab the clutch and it’s close to quick shifter. Tho I agree it’s harder to change at “making progress” speeds. 😁
I had the 1000F version with the front fairing. I've ridden both and the F model is way more stable in the corners due to the front fairing giving some weight over the front wheel. I regret selling it but i may pick up the all black version or a katana. For the money, it's a great bike.
Brilliant bike, great review.Thought you were a little harsh on the suspension though. A big lad like you needs more rear preload even without luggage or a pillion and an overall addition of more damping front and back. A 9st rider will get a completely different ride with stock suspension settings. He’ll have a shorter trail, more turn in and have a less wallowing ride than you. Take a screwdriver and a C spinner (if needed) on your test rides, you are not the average rider weight.
New gsxr engine is so strong if they put that full fat engine in a naked just like what ducati did with the new street fighter and keep it relatively cheap it's gonna be a total winner
Not necessarily. The older engine that was used is the longer stroke. The new engine is more oversquare. Also there was a test on a track between a 2005 GSXR1000 (GSXS based engine) and 2020 Ducati Panigale. Interesting.
What a total letdown with the bike.
you don't need clutch when changing up, gearbox is an absolute peach.
Never had the honor of riding better engineered bikes than Suzukis.
So true...
Gsx-S750 2020
Try Honda
I failed to mention that I'm 61 years old and have been an avid rider since I got my endorsement. I have owned numerous Hondas along the way. Starting with a CB350 in 73 and ending with an 08 Fireblade. Hondas are good, but in my opinion Suzukis are not only superior in the engineering department, their parts are made of better quality materials, and sound and feel more fun. Safe riding.
@@Warhawk23 had 2 Honda's complete bags of shite. The gearboxs are terrible
Try Kawasaki
I just picked up one of these yesterday. Suzuki is giving $1500 USD off right now. Brought the price down to $9600. I traded a ZX14R for it and it feels like a toy comparatively and I like that. Gonna have a great time modding it and making it as fast as it can be.
it is a new GSX-S1000 on the way, i asked my dealer in Norway.
I had one in 2016 chops, good value for money.
i feel like other manufacturers focused so much on making a bike with all the top trimmings and specs to make ultimate track weapons with upright ergonomics. meanwhile Suzuki just focused on making a good fun cheap street bike.
If it's anything like my SV650, you don't need to clutch it when accelerating hard if you have good shift timing.
The brake lever movement is due to the Master cylinder and Callipers being mismatched because road riders don't like the initial bite that racers do.
I love my Bandit 1200S and bought a new Ninja 400 for $3150. Lots of fun. My favorite bike was my V65 Magna. Love the V4. Suzuki and Kawasaki give the best bang the the buck. Honda and Yamaha have extra quality.
Thanx Lamb Chops. Great cheap bike to hoon on! "Pulls very well" indeed.
I tried the 2016 model a couple of years ago, and omg the snatchy throttle was horrible. I now bought the 2020 model, and have no issues with that what so ever on the new model
I bought a new hold over 2016 last year and put 17k miles on it. My 3rd liter bike and my 5th motorcycle. Absolute beast. Never had a bad time with it.
They are well priced but I’ll be honest. Ever Suzuki I’ve owned has just looked very tatty in a short space of time. Perhaps their build quality in recent years has improved. Fantastic engines regardless.
I'd say these days their build quality is better than most. No bullshit, just solid dependable machines, well they are still built in Japan..
Spot on review Sir. I have a new '16 picked up this year. Just sitting lonely on the showroom floor for $10K. Wonderful bike with some quirks, although once mastering this bike, it always makes me smile. Tuned suspension, although replacing rear shock soon, at 4800 miles, replaced the Dunlaps with Michelins, handles much better.
Flashing my ECU to correct air/fuel, twitch and engine braking, removing cat and sensors, replacing with straight pipe and M4 can.
This should make her sweet.
on special too here in NZ for around $15k (7850 GBP) what a bargain! Shame the other brands are so greedy...
The value proposition on these is very compelling. You can easily find these for $9,000 in my area which is around 6,700 pound sterling.
Hi chopsie, I spent 9.7k on my Thunderace back in '95 which was similar power etc back then. Thinking back, my wife and I still think that was the best bike I had
I have the 2015 model changed the throttle sleeve for the 2020 model and it’s helped a lot the reason I choose the gsxs1000 is that u get a decent engine good build quality abs and traction control that’s all I needed only passed my test sept this year so wanted me to learn to ride a litre bike and not rely on electronics it’s a great commuter always makes me smile on the way to work love it
Hahaha, i love Chopsi you say that the old school
instrumentation, what is my Suzuki GSX 1100F model 95 then 🤣
I've got one of these and I love it. Paid 8k for it 3 years ago.
Yup, that's the game, under ten grand for a brand new litre bike. The engine and gearbox are legendary 👍🏻.
Where are you buying this for 10k?
These are solid bikes. I hope they redesign both this and the 750 and up their game.
Had a Bandit 6 1998 and B12 2002. Just bought one of these a few weeks back and its just so fun to ride. The modern Bandit in my opinion
No way! My first big bike was a B6, 2nd was a B12, now have a 600 Fazer and a GSXS1000F .
The GSXS to me is like a modern B12 on steroids. I've only had it 4 days, and it spun the rear tyre on me 1st ride, but I love it and with more practice on it and a suspension set up, it is going to be one hell of a machine.
Have fun, ride safe
Back towards the beginning of the year I bought a 69 plate faired version for £7995 with 68 miles on the clock and it's been superb. On the throttle issue, I sent my ECU to Junction 33 Developments for flashing and it absolutely transforms the bike which is otherwise standard. Fuelling is perfect now and there's more torque. Rear shock needs replacing as the compression is fixed way too hard. Great bike indeed 👍
Really appreciate the different camera views! We think on the same level! Stay safe sir!
I had the 2020, owned it for 3 months. It’s not a bad bike. Definitely has power, suspension was rough, tank slap was pretty bad as well, after market parts market in the United States is lacking and the vibrations were pretty rough as well. I payed 11k otd for the bike. Happy that I traded in for an aprili. I’ll say this I payed 14.5 otd for my tuono and it’s a night and day difference.
I too am a big Suzuki fan but I think they have a gap in their range?
Something to line up against the Tracer 900, F900XR etc
A new GSX up on its toes would be it.
I don't think it's the V Strom 1050
But these GSXSXXSSXX's are a huge bargain.
Nice.
I’ve never had a quick shifter so I don’t miss it. I think this would be a great bike to own, but I haven’t ridden one.
Try it! Complete rocketship. Traction control #1 has the front wheel levitating twice in first gear, 3 times in 2nd, and you're at 100mph before getting to third gear.
I've yet to turn off traction control. Don't really see the point to be honest.
I Love my 2016 abs model, had it since new and its super versatile. Track day,canyon carving,commuting and two up rides with the misses it does it all.
How it was on the track? I’m going there about 3 times per year but wanna something more suitable for longer rides than my current CBR600RR
To be honest it is all the bike you will ever need :)))
Best value for money big naked on the market. An update would be nice but it's a steal in its current state. Thanks for bringing some attention to the less flashy options out there.
Only complaint is this one isn't in the MotoGPesque blue livery.
I'm kicking myself for having only today started watching your channel . The Motard resto project is a great series, guess it's binge-watching time.
A comparaison against a MT10 would be lovely !
Thanks for this, I will be investing in one of these after Christmas , I have the 2016 GSR750, you want snatchy throttle try one of these 😂👍🏻
The Japanese naked 1000's for the same price as the Tuono 660 is a hard choice. 🤔🤔🤔😭
less problems with japanese bikes in my pov
Yeah in those colours and the black exhaust it looks tidy. As you say, bang for buck is good. Second hand market even better I.d say. I think I’d still go MT10 though😎👍
Empty-10? Brilliant bike as long as you have plenty of fuel stops, I once managed under 70 miles from fill-up to reserve warning. But that was repeated mountain runs on the IOM chasing a SuperDuke R.
I had the Leo Vince 3/4 exhaust and a re-map, I miss that sound. All other IL4's sound boring in comparison.
Great video dude bet u had fun on the suzuki I own a kawasaki ninja zx6r 2001 great bike for myself
Win Ner
Don't want to discredit the GSX. Just sharing the informations.
I have a Tuono V4 2020. If i compare to this bike.
Tuono is expensive, €18990 but this is what it has:
- 175 hp
- 112 Nm
- Front brake: Brembo M50
- Rear brake: Brembo...
- Ride by wire throttle
- electronics suspension: front & rear
- electronics steering damper
- TFT dash
- Quickshifter & autoblipper
- riding modes
- cruise control
- lots of electronics
- my opinion: better look and better sound
I’d prefer the old CB1000R over this one. Those could be had for $6000. That single sided swingarm. And it’s based on the SC57 2007 CBR1000RR, so pretty damn reliable. The lack of low end pickup is easily fixed with a 520 chain upgrade with -1 and +2 sprockets.
Old school the way to go 👌👌
Awesome review.
Ppl forget that this bike, the cb1000r and such have proper liter bike engines.
I had '13 cb1000r and traded it with the new cb1000r. Great fit and finish.
The gsxs1000 was second on my list.
I'm eyeing the upcoming s1000r tho. I want cruise control so bad. I have injured my right wrist few years ago.
Demo rode both the 750 and 1000 S. I liked the 750 better. Wouldn't mind having one.
Got a 2019 phantom with full Yoshi system and 162 bhp , love this bike and had it on track too 😁😉
I bought one gsx-s1000 four months ago and I love it.
Got a 2019. Fixed a few of the shortcomings.
Great bike before. Amazing after. And a decent bargain stock. Cost to mix the shortcomings mitigates a certain degree, though.
EDIT: at around 18:37, fork rebound at the top, compression at the bottom. Shock rebound adjustment on the drivers side.
I am intriged by this bike as you say it is a k5, a lot of people regard that as the best superbike ever. Revzilla put a k5 against a v4 on track with just suspension mods and it was over a second faster. So i wonder if with this base could you make a brand new k5?
This bike really is a great example of good value. Do some digging on eBay for a power commander 3 which is cheap and then run a dyno jet quick shifter through it (again find one on eBay) then stick a yoshimura end can on it and give it to someone to dial it in on a dyno. Add all that together plus the price of the bike and you have something really competitive at a great price 👍👍
I own a 2021 superduke and bought a new gsxs in June for 8.5 k for a bit of touring or the odd track day. Gotta maxton shock on it ,decent tyres and lithium battery . It's a weapon and I've been riding more than the KTM. My friends got a panigale 1299 final edition and my 8.5k gsxs dicks his 34k plankigale . Cheap thrills indeed
The street version of these Suzukis are phenominal. Even my GSX650F (bandit with fairings) has way more down low power than my old CBR600, Kawi 636 and the R6. Top end no chance, but mid range in town... buckle up! Power where you need it. Who cares about top end circuit crap when you'll never even be on one. Grunt and smooth power.
As far as the snatchy issue goes on the Katana line, it can be tuned out 100%. Idk who is falling asleep at Suzuki, but on/off throttle in a corner can occasionally be sketchy. Easy eliminated after a tune. Over-all, phenomenal though.
My k6 750 reg rec burnt out on a euro track day & my brother had just bought one of these taking it out there with me. I did a few sessions on it and the engine is a peach. Badly needs rearsets and suspension revalve but a great bike for the money
Nice looking bike, great colour combination and all for under £10k. Bargain!
I’d love to see a straight line run vs an MT10. Both are similar in power, slight edge to Suzuki stock, after modding and tuning the gap closes slightly with both 150whp easy on most any dyno . Have yet to see a video of these 2 bikes going WOT next to each other.
Edit- you got it backwards Chops. TEN=Rebound. COMP=Compression.
Only upgrade TFT screen, steering damper. It shakes its head when opening it up..
You need to adjust your suspension
@Gixxis I don’t have it anymore, I mentioned tft in future upgrades
So it keeps up with the current bikes. Has a 15 year a literal track record of reliability. These also look fantastic when you do the usual farkle update(fender eliminated, new led light bulbs, aftermarket turn signals ect). You know all the stuff that gets done to every bike during the winter. Show up to bike night and have fun.
Just got a 2018 gsxr1000r chops and it is a great machine, your videos on the gsxr really persuaded me to buy one. Thing is scary fast too.
Anyways great vid as always chops.
Great stuff fantastic bike!
Perhaps the best big bore naked value in the world today. I have a '19 MT09 that I like but I'm sure this would have been an equally satisfying naked and perhaps even better.
I just sold my mt09 last month for not obvious reason other than getting a different bike. I ended buying this bike for 7k with extras, 4,000 miles me and the 2018 model. I really love it and don't miss the mt09. Well, i miss the led headlight...the mt09 is a great bike too. It's just one of those bikes that you can keep forever. I feel this one is the same too. I just wanted to try a different bike and this dornst disappoint.
Suzuki gearbox = perfection
Underrated bike for sure, does its job fantastically.
Great review can’t wait to get my 2022
It’s a shame that the GSXS & GSXF aren’t invested in more. There’s a lot of expensive super nakeds or super tourers that are over the top. I wonder if the VVT engine could be put into a newer model with out going mad on price... worry I’m dreaming! Great video though!
alter the tps and put the katana throttle tube on supposedly helps alot .il let u know next week.....
on the 2019 and onwards gsxs they use the same throttle tube as the katana
When I had my 2015 Gixxer 600, the fact it had none of the electronics and faff was the big appeal to me. That being said, I do love my 1000 R. Suzuki’s, to me, have always been the most comfortable sportsbikes.
@Justin Voluck Totally agree. Wish I’d kept my 600 as a second bike. May have to get another one, maybe the 750 this time though.
*******chops please read********
There is a recall for h2s regarding ecu issues. While i do not think it may affect you due to your being flashed but i wanted to let you know just in case. The recall issue is that there is a failure to upshift during high rpm and has caused a full transmission lock up. Kawasaki is supposed to be sending out notifications on the 16th but it doesnt say how they are to be delivered. Snail mail or email... its kinda aptly timed for me as i was gonna do a full service before winter sets in for a real freeze on my riding but even more so now i worry about it messing up on me without knowing if my h2 needs the reimage for the ecu... stay safe, ride safe and as always, stay chopsy.
Thanks for the heads up! Hmm think this is the first ever recall on these.. ok thanks let's see what happens mine has been perfect though
I just love mine, I agree I will change out the shock and all will be good, great review. I also agree they need to bring some new bikes out and a new one these would be great.
I tried the 2022 and ordered a 2023.
Love the bike but wish they didn't change the headlight.
I guess I won't see the headlight when I ride it 😊
I couldn’t get used to the throttle on mine so I sold it, it was a shame as it was a lovely bike, just hope they can sort that issue out,
If your thinking of buying one ,definitely test ride one first and make your own mind up.
Abit twitchy but nothing like that stupid mt09 throttle