SNC and the Talibanization of Pakistan - Syed Muzammil Shah - Journalist - TPE 125

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  • Опубліковано 26 тра 2024
  • Syed Muzamil Shah is an anchor, journalist and analyst.
    Muzamil comes back on the podcast to discuss the repercussions of the Single National Curriculum, the growing Talibanization of Pakistan, American imperialism and neoliberalism.
    The Pakistan Experience is an independently run podcast.
    Please consider supporting us on Patreon:
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    The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. He can be found on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Tinder.
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    Chapters:
    0:00 Introduction
    1:20 Single National Curriculum
    11:00 Appeasing the extremist mindset
    17:30 The Taliban have changed and Pakistan's role
    27:00 Talibanization of Pakistan
    36:00 Barelvi Extremism and TLP
    41:00 Using nationalism to control people
    46:30 Will Imran Khan be Prime Minister again?
    51:00 Shahbaz Sharif and PDM
    54:30 Financial Establishment
    58:30 ZAB
    1:02:40 Neoconservativism, Neoliberalism and the radical left
    1:08:30 American Capitalism, Slavery and the American revolution
    1:34:00 Left vs liberal policies
    1:48:00 Arguing with trolls online and CSS
    1:51:00 Simping for the state on UA-cam and media restrictions
    1:57:30 Spirituality
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  • @dsonudas
    @dsonudas 2 роки тому +109

    In times when attention spans are getting shorter and shorter I am blessed that i found syed muzzamil on internet. I can listen to this guys for hours.. What a guy. ❤ from 🇮🇳🙏🙏

    • @sajjadkhan4179
      @sajjadkhan4179 2 роки тому

      eko hindustan lai jakar sara din raat suno,hindustani shia hai koi our nahi

    • @shrawaniverma4454
      @shrawaniverma4454 2 роки тому +6

      @@sajjadkhan4179 really kabhi Muslims ek jaate hain aur kabhi hindustan shia. Kamal ki convenience hai..

    • @pksharma7183
      @pksharma7183 Рік тому

      Shia to kafir hai Pakistan mai….shia has been safest in India…

    • @pkavenger9990
      @pkavenger9990 10 місяців тому

      lol

    • @lookintoit4537
      @lookintoit4537 6 місяців тому

      ​@@sajjadkhan4179Bhai Pakistan ka founder to ek Hindustani Shia tha.

  • @razar4615
    @razar4615 2 роки тому +163

    Syed Muzammil is one of the best intellectuals in the online space of the country.

    • @ashishnehra5481
      @ashishnehra5481 2 роки тому +1

      I am a big fan of his
      ua-cam.com/channels/4HtYKSCFWCjfVwvkQrWHVw.html This channel is the ultimate BEST regarding any and ALL topics about the country of Pakistan. All other channels are empty vessels compared to this. I have learnt so much from Chacha and you can too as he has a very funny and folksy manner which is entertainment and endearing at the same time so please make sure to spread the word regarding this channel…

    • @53ajeem
      @53ajeem 6 місяців тому

      Just after reading few books and frequently qouting them 😂

    • @navjotsinghkahlon694
      @navjotsinghkahlon694 5 місяців тому

      Absolutely right

  • @soulful848
    @soulful848 2 роки тому +56

    These two have huge inspired me and my friends to start our own channel and start speaking out about the frustrations we feel as overseas Pakistanis.
    Society can only improve if you identity, recognise and do something about the problems, rather than shut your eyes and say we are the best in the world.

    • @ashishnehra5481
      @ashishnehra5481 2 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/channels/4HtYKSCFWCjfVwvkQrWHVw.html This channel is the ultimate BEST regarding any and ALL topics about the country of Pakistan. All other channels are empty vessels compared to this. I have learnt so much from Chacha and you can too as he has a very funny and folksy manner which is entertainment and endearing at the same time so please make sure to spread the word regarding this channel…

    • @ashishnehra5481
      @ashishnehra5481 2 роки тому

      Shahzad bhai, love your work!
      ua-cam.com/channels/4HtYKSCFWCjfVwvkQrWHVw.html The ultimate channel on matters concerning Pakistan. This is what you have been looking for but never found until now. Chacha will have your attention and hold it to the end of the video as he is very very funny! Moreover, he has a daily midnight live stream for all his subscribers.Don’t forget to spread the word to other Indian brothers and sisters as we all deserve to see this…

  • @AsifV7
    @AsifV7 2 роки тому +59

    we need more intellectual conversation like this. between those two guys.

  • @umairaarif6535
    @umairaarif6535 2 роки тому +97

    You guys are like a breath of fresh air amidst the chaos
    Much love ❤

    • @nishatchishti1025
      @nishatchishti1025 2 роки тому

      Baita I think all we need to do is try and have an open debate on the curriculm and then come to consensus and ensure its progressive. It's the first time a bold move is made has been made for one curriculam for the whole country. Mind you we are still not one nation yet. . As for politics in our region these youngsters need to understand it in real depth. Afghanistan and India were anti Pakistan from day one. Before Talibans Afghanistan wanted to make Pushtonistan. During the last 20 years India was allowed to freely use their soil to carry on subversive activities in Baluchistan. So why should not Pakistan celeberate Taliban victory. We don't have much choice. I was very liberal a few years back and thought India want friendly relations and its only our fauj which has created this unnatural hostile situation for their own benifits. But seeing the designs of Indians in the last 5 yeas is an eye opener. Day and night they are working on single agenda and that is to destroy Pakistan.Now about IK. Its your own assesment that If Imran is a puppet of Fauj or is it the first time that Civil and militery are on the same page. Remember Imran from day one says there will be no militery action or militancy allowed from Pakistan soil. And so far establishment has honoured that.

    • @ashishnehra5481
      @ashishnehra5481 2 роки тому

      @@nishatchishti1025 you people don't understand it. India is far from your level and not your competition
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    • @dreadfulbodyguard7288
      @dreadfulbodyguard7288 2 роки тому

      ​@@nishatchishti1025 Pakistan can only be destroyed if Pakistani students believe Quran and Hadiths more than modern science books.
      India, US trying to destroy Pakistan is story your leaders tell you to avoid responsibilities.

    • @AbdullahKhawar262
      @AbdullahKhawar262 Рік тому

      Your right about indian thinking..I am a liberal Muslim and want Pakistan secular but as for ties with India its not a good decision every indian deeply wants to break Pakistan their literally doing negative propaganda day and night against us , all indians are same irrespective of their religion look at their top media channels... they discuss us every day like hindustan times india times wion everyone

  • @growrich7205
    @growrich7205 2 роки тому +74

    You guys are doing an exquisite job. I wish we have more people like you in Pakistan. Pakistan will be heaven if all the people think like you and become enlightened. Shehzad and Muzamil's intellectual integrity is at its peak. Love you and more power to you guys💕 your efforts to make Pakistan enlightened are commendable. We hope that Pakistan will get rid of these ideological prejudices, ignorance and rubbish corrupt elite and rulers. Huge fan of Shehzad's intellectual integrity and Muzammil's perspicacity❤

    • @theguyver4934
      @theguyver4934 2 роки тому

      Pakistan should have never been made

    • @hassanhanjra6076
      @hassanhanjra6076 2 роки тому

      Yani mulk tabaah karwa ke rehna hai.

    • @theguyver4934
      @theguyver4934 2 роки тому

      @@hassanhanjra6076 - Kya tum mutshy Ka rahe ho

    • @hassanhanjra6076
      @hassanhanjra6076 2 роки тому

      @@theguyver4934 pehlay apni baat toh sai se samjhaoo

    • @theguyver4934
      @theguyver4934 2 роки тому +1

      @@hassanhanjra6076 - There is no Pakistan there is only one India (bharat)

  • @ujjwalbhawalkar7385
    @ujjwalbhawalkar7385 2 роки тому +39

    I follow these two guys religiously and please keep making videos and enlight our minds love you both

    • @DeepakSoni-rb7bm
      @DeepakSoni-rb7bm 2 роки тому +3

      Vaah chaman chyutie

    • @ujjwalbhawalkar7385
      @ujjwalbhawalkar7385 2 роки тому +1

      Tu kon hai bhai

    • @nitishsaxena1372
      @nitishsaxena1372 2 роки тому +3

      @@DeepakSoni-rb7bm social media se bahar koi bhi kisi stranger ko ja ke is tarah galiyan nahi dega lekin ab anonymity ke peeche chhup ke apna gande se ganda chehra dekhane me koi sharam nahi hai.

    • @ashishnehra5481
      @ashishnehra5481 2 роки тому

      @@DeepakSoni-rb7bm Deepak,
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    • @ashishnehra5481
      @ashishnehra5481 2 роки тому

      @@nitishsaxena1372 you are right
      ua-cam.com/channels/4HtYKSCFWCjfVwvkQrWHVw.html I have something so good and beneficial for you! You will definitely enjoy the content of the videos produced by the great allrounder CHACHA Abdul Shakoor. He has a daily midnight live stream which is unmissable as all comers come such as subscribers and enemies. Chacha has the biggest work ethic as he regularly produces 20 videos a day on different topics. He is so funny that he will tickle your funnybones like a comedian with his statements. He does epic bashing videos of the Pakistani establishment. Please just spread the word to all people...

  • @amishbhat3560
    @amishbhat3560 2 роки тому +42

    Salute man. You can laugh at death threats given to you. Brilliant work as always.

    • @ashishnehra5481
      @ashishnehra5481 2 роки тому +1

      Mr BHAT
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    • @worldlove1591
      @worldlove1591 2 роки тому

      This is not India
      I know India rank 1st in worst country for women

  • @ahmerahmed6559
    @ahmerahmed6559 2 роки тому +95

    I am not as optimistic as you Shezad and second Muzammil about what's gonna happen in Pakistan. I'm seeing my very educated friends and relatives and those who are the top executives at biggest organizations support Taliban, Khalil ur rehman, TLP and etc. These numbers seem to be increasing every day. Still, kudos to both of you.

    • @omz3848
      @omz3848 2 роки тому +21

      Agreed. Even educated men here, despite all their exposure abroad and the education they've received, seem to regress quite a bit when it comes to the faith or when it pertains to embracing differing viewpoints or lifestyles. Plus, the consistent lack of critical thinking here (thanks to the kind efforts of the state) coupled with the need to impose a Islamic values (which sect's values woh bhee? Shias are apparently considered polytheists by some while Ahemids are deemed heretics and deserve to be killed) over the local populace just because the "West is corrupt" or that we're an Islamic country....these poisonous sentiments will take years to weed out and honestly I don't see this happening anytime soon. Frankly, it kinda sucks getting old in this country: You become cynical so much faster thanks to the weak institutions, rampant corruption and seeing most of your decent friends and family strive to move abroad (even if it places them in a worse economic situation, the long term benefits in their view are worth it) that it becomes difficult to hold on to hope that inshallah things will get better

    • @nooro5766
      @nooro5766 2 роки тому +2

      Agreed

    • @malikShoaib-fj6fj
      @malikShoaib-fj6fj 2 роки тому +7

      Yes I know a senior position holder in a private company who has a very westernised outlook supporting and chanting “LABBAIK LABBAIK”
      👀

    • @nooro5766
      @nooro5766 2 роки тому +3

      @@malikShoaib-fj6fj horrifying !

    • @nooro5766
      @nooro5766 2 роки тому +2

      Aisi kia nafrat daali hoi hai inho ne apne dil main. Mujhe samjh nai ati inki.

  • @88yasirrana
    @88yasirrana 2 роки тому +14

    I have recently started listening to your podcasts. It is safe to say that listening to you guys is therapeutic for me. It helps to keep my sanity intact. I live in Texas and it frustrates that shit out me when I can’t find desi men who who are Not taliban apologists, IK supporters, misogynists, and victim blamers. I understand the masses being that way but these men and women who have had the same education and exposure as I have, share the rotten mentality of religious extremism and male patriarchy with Pakistani masses.
    Thank you for speaking your heart and talking sense!

  • @iqballalani6931
    @iqballalani6931 2 роки тому +36

    Sometimes I think we are blessed to have social media otherwise we would not have had interaction with such knowledgeable intellectuals whom we are otherwise not been able to reach through electronic media. You introduced us to Ammar Ali Jan, Muzamil Shah, Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed, Uzair Younus, Dr. Taimur Rehman, Dr. Shahram, and others. I am just a fan of these intellectuals and their level of thinking and understanding of life and worldly matters. Thanks

  • @divyanshudenia3226
    @divyanshudenia3226 2 роки тому +44

    You people give me hopes regarding Pakistan.. love you brother from India 🙏 we liberals are in minority in here too

    • @nitishsaxena1372
      @nitishsaxena1372 2 роки тому +1

      @Dev raj Dev what does any name has to do with someone's personal belief?

    • @thestoryofindia9357
      @thestoryofindia9357 2 роки тому

      Liberals are morons!

    • @aneelRmd
      @aneelRmd Рік тому

      Most LEFTIST person in India is Na Mo himself. Most COMMuniST in India is NaMo. IND opposition is not buying this , they don't even know what is the problem!
      Syed Muzzamil 's study about India is ill-read or hypothetical. Imran Khan can be equated with Kejriwal politics.

  • @acrobat6217
    @acrobat6217 2 роки тому +56

    you guys deserve a standing ovation! these podcasts are really good. Wish you are all the best

    • @ashishnehra5481
      @ashishnehra5481 2 роки тому

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  • @saadainwahab4294
    @saadainwahab4294 2 роки тому +26

    "I went searching for God and I found myself staring back." I am stealing this.

    • @ShehzadGhias
      @ShehzadGhias 2 роки тому +5

      Credit day dijiye ga

    • @saadainwahab4294
      @saadainwahab4294 2 роки тому +3

      @@ShehzadGhias If I ever write my novel, you will be a character in it and I will make sure your character says this line.

    • @AKumar-co7oe
      @AKumar-co7oe 2 роки тому +3

      APJ Abdul Kalam once asked me "Do you believe that god created man?" paused, then asked "Or did man create god?" and then he laughed.

    • @ashishnehra5481
      @ashishnehra5481 2 роки тому

      @@ShehzadGhias what do you think?
      ua-cam.com/channels/4HtYKSCFWCjfVwvkQrWHVw.html He is very funny in his approach and does regular bashing videos that you will enjoy if you give it a try. The best though is his daily midnight live stream where he rips Pakistani people for their ignorance. Please spread to all brothers and sisters as it deserves the maximum audience to see it! In addition,he has a very entertaining daily live stream which is unmissable! Do the good deed of spreading the word…

  • @ZAIN9858
    @ZAIN9858 2 роки тому +22

    After a very long time. Zabardast. Another great podcast. Keep it up Shehzad bhai.

  • @atharshah6575
    @atharshah6575 Рік тому +16

    This episode is my history 101 class. Your content need to be heard, promoted and appreciated. What a treat to consume this entire podcast. Oh boy. I spent a 2.5 hours just to listen to the entire conversation. Wow. Thank you for this diamond content.

  • @sumeetkumar8214
    @sumeetkumar8214 2 роки тому +22

    Yes, "Among the believers" is good watch. An eye opener made by Pakistani and Indian collab.

    • @qurratulainzehra8760
      @qurratulainzehra8760 2 роки тому

      why couldnt i find it on netflix

    • @sumeetkumar8214
      @sumeetkumar8214 2 роки тому +1

      @@qurratulainzehra8760 it's on UA-cam. You can't find "lord of war" too. Nice movie though

    • @ggtheog7610
      @ggtheog7610 2 роки тому

      watch all of mohammad naqvi work

  • @mehrankhan7886
    @mehrankhan7886 2 роки тому +12

    Very very fruitful discussion thanks to both of you for your efforts to remove fundamentalism from society and helping students like us to think critically.

  • @danishkhalid9255
    @danishkhalid9255 2 роки тому +47

    The philosophy of school room in one generation will be the philosophy of the government in the next. - Abraham Lincoln
    Thank you for this episode! Such insightful conversation :)

    • @Serious9185
      @Serious9185 2 роки тому +5

      Great comment!

    • @ashishnehra5481
      @ashishnehra5481 2 роки тому

      @@Serious9185 agreed
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  • @Ayeshakhan-zj4qh
    @Ayeshakhan-zj4qh 2 роки тому +9

    I love to hear each word of Syed muzammil

    • @Ayeshakhan-zj4qh
      @Ayeshakhan-zj4qh 2 роки тому +1

      @Javed Khan just pray for your self you need for it

  • @siddharthasoumitra9018
    @siddharthasoumitra9018 2 роки тому +11

    Great podcast. All muslims should know the real image of Taliban. Love from India.

  • @Faiza-Irfan
    @Faiza-Irfan 2 роки тому +14

    Thank you Shehzad for bringing yet another brilliant podcast - 👏👏👏

  • @hotfun07
    @hotfun07 2 роки тому +7

    "Taliban ab Machieavellian ban gaye hain."
    Dil jeet liya apne is baat par.
    Pakistan ne apni tarah Machiavellian hone ka 'Art' apne pitthu ko bhi sikha diya. Bhai Zabardast 👌

  • @sidrakanwal2126
    @sidrakanwal2126 2 роки тому +14

    Hi muzammil.I can send you photos of the pages where such changes are done in 6 to 10 class courses ( despite the fact that SNC is not implemented in these classes yet,and it is implemented in primary classes only at the present year) .I'm a school teacher..

  • @sa7375
    @sa7375 2 роки тому +11

    ❤️ A very enriching and stimulating discussion, indeed. I loved it, and was impressed with the knowledge and deep perspective on various issues of BOTH of you. A few comments for factual corrections:
    1. The wealth of the US wasn't entirely slave-created. Yes, it contributed, but it wasn't THE factor.
    2. The company that Dick Cheney had earlier been a CEO of, and was later promoting as a Vice President, was Halliburton (spelled with double L).
    3. The Japanese residents in the US during WWII were incarcerated in 'Internment Camps' and not 'Concentration Camps'. There was no element of torture in those camps.
    4. While there is debate, evolution, and self-correcting mechanism in the US political system, it's derailing and evaporating fast, and the society polarizing as never before.

  • @vaidehivihari3601
    @vaidehivihari3601 2 роки тому +9

    Chalo ji. Hafte ka food for thought aa gaya! Thanks Shehzad!!

    • @ashishnehra5481
      @ashishnehra5481 2 роки тому

      Vaidehi,how are you?
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  • @Aftab__Ahmed
    @Aftab__Ahmed 2 роки тому +12

    YES! HIJAB WAS NEVER ABOUT PIECE OF CLOTHING...
    GHAMIDI has explained that verse of Quran time and time again

    • @umayr2935
      @umayr2935 2 роки тому +4

      Theres a Ghamidi in every era, but its actually logic which is pushing forth all ideas, not scholars, its only when, by logic, a concept has prevailed so much that its impossible to refute it, someone like Ghamidi sb interprets the religion again and tells people that the verses were misinterpreted, that is why i say that let us accept logic as the benchmark to progress forward, our concept of God is based on the Quran, but the Quran doesn't make wordly and scientific matters as a major topic, as said by Ghamidi sb himself, the Quran's central theme and message is that the Allah is One, beleive in the Prophets, and that people will be rewarded on Judgement day according to their deeds, apart from this all other verses are being interpreted again and again with a new meaning every century, lets accept the fact that religion is about our belief in Allah and Hashr, apart from that we should use our logic only to determine what should we do TODAY

    • @Aftab__Ahmed
      @Aftab__Ahmed 2 роки тому +3

      @@umayr2935 can't agree more well said! Ghamidi and others like him have stated similar thoughts but religious clergy have been imposed on us for so long that we have forgotten to talk about religion with logic and replaced with different belief systems which are based on a different school of thoughts I'm not saying it's either good or bad I'm just saying that when you are elucidating Quranic verses and hadiths you have to understand the mythology behind it otherwise you will be justifying Taliban and mullahs and will be thinking that you are defending Islam which will lead you to take extreme measures when it comes to defending it. You will be the tool of the state they will use you however they like. So just don't listen to anyone with a beard and think that he is absolute without any proof do your own research and then come to any conclusions.

  • @shivans4641
    @shivans4641 2 роки тому +10

    He is my favorite sir. I have subscribed him since the earliest days.

  • @akbarkanji5368
    @akbarkanji5368 2 роки тому +16

    The minority of liberals will leave pakistan, we cannot live in this suffocation

  • @khadija4801
    @khadija4801 2 роки тому +10

    Wow!!! What a treat today!!! 😍😊💕🤗💕💕🤗🤗

  • @VRHere3107
    @VRHere3107 2 роки тому +23

    Cant get over this guy ♥️🇮🇳🇮🇳

  • @gmnavy9
    @gmnavy9 Рік тому +2

    An American Journalist once asked an Afghani woman " Tell me, when I came here ten years ago, I saw that men would walk in front, with a gun, leading the way, and his wife would be walking behind him with a few packs and baskets on her head. Now things seem to have changed so much for the better. I see women often walking ahead! How did this change occur?"
    The answer was short and crisp , "Land mines".

  • @yasirjawaid9636
    @yasirjawaid9636 2 роки тому +5

    What a great conversation… thank you both of you for creating and maintaining critical thought in Pakistan

  • @Justice4All-
    @Justice4All- 2 роки тому +10

    OMG. This was the best episode ever. Very good debates. I really feel so enlightened and I really mean it. Loved it. Please keep making more episodes like this.

  • @Aftab__Ahmed
    @Aftab__Ahmed 2 роки тому +15

    Imperialism is Imperialism wether it's the America, British or Taliban. The only difference is Gori chamdi and Brown chamdi

    • @Aftab__Ahmed
      @Aftab__Ahmed 2 роки тому +3

      there's no such thing as good imperialism. advancement of society comes from within through class consciousness

  • @sadianaseerarts8462
    @sadianaseerarts8462 2 роки тому +26

    Good video.... But I will disagree with you at one point.... There is a huge difference between religion and spirituality. If you are spiritual that doesn't mean that you are religious. Religion is something totally different. Basically religion means our beliefs on books that God sent.
    But it is not necessary for a spiritual person to believe on God and that books. Spirituality is something about our subconsciousness.
    So being spiritual doesn't mean that you are religious.

    • @TheDushyantDesai
      @TheDushyantDesai 2 роки тому +5

      Spirituality is about one's "Self" awareness and it is universal just like the light in our universe/world is the same no matter what language, alphabets or numerals we use to describe it. Spirituality is to a human being's inner world as light is to the outside world. True religiousness cannot begin or exist without spirituality. The messengers and enlightened beings reached the peak of Spirituality and tried to draw other towards it but eventually their message/work almost always becomes a business of religion organized around power and politics by people who are neither spiritual nor religious. This, unfortunately happens again and again and so each one of us must endeavor to rediscover it again and again while searching for a living spiritual flame within each of our lifetime. Not easy but is always possible. That much light is always there and is given to us as grace.

    • @TheDushyantDesai
      @TheDushyantDesai 2 роки тому

      @Hitokiri Battousai succinctly, well said!

    • @alialaas3761
      @alialaas3761 2 роки тому

      Agreed

  • @alizakhalid1499
    @alizakhalid1499 2 роки тому +5

    Thank you. Was waiting ❤️❤️❤️

  • @AparnaRamachandran23
    @AparnaRamachandran23 2 роки тому +7

    A very thought provoking debate..Kudos to the two of you

  • @fayezakamal3778
    @fayezakamal3778 2 роки тому +9

    Love this conversation. We're dumbing down the nation to a point of no return.

  • @MeemBaay111
    @MeemBaay111 2 роки тому +3

    I am so grateful to you both for articulating a legit Pakistani left. I am a long-suffering part of the left in England, so solidarity to you from us. You are not alone! Keep the faith!

    • @MeemBaay111
      @MeemBaay111 2 роки тому +2

      ​@@ThePakistanExperience Thank you for the references. I will take a look at the two Ammar's works. I find it interesting that you both don't label yourself 'left'. Aap donno ka perspective puri tharah left per hai. Jub khud ko mana lein tou join us, the English left could do with both your solidarity. What you are both doing is important, so keep doing it whatever you call yourself. Respect to you both!

    • @ashishnehra5481
      @ashishnehra5481 2 роки тому

      @@MeemBaay111 add some UK people over here
      ua-cam.com/channels/4HtYKSCFWCjfVwvkQrWHVw.html Let me alert you to the channels making waves and splashes and headaches for the army generals and maulvis in Pakistan- it is called Chacha The Commando! Once you see it for the first time, you will be ADDICTED! All other channels will seem pheeka in comparison. So there’s no question that you will like it therefore I need you to spread the channel to all people as many don’t know about it. Please spread far and wide...

  • @adityaadi4435
    @adityaadi4435 2 роки тому +28

    loved the podcast. Muzammil was very informative. I agree with him. hierarchy is natural in humans. some people just don't get it. even after they grow up. haha

    • @ashishnehra5481
      @ashishnehra5481 2 роки тому

      Aditya, loved the podcast
      ua-cam.com/channels/4HtYKSCFWCjfVwvkQrWHVw.html Try out the channel! He is very funny in his approach and does regular bashing videos that you will enjoy if you give it a try. CHACHA has a midnight live stream and daily exposing videos of corrupt mullahs, jaali pirs and stories of the day in a unique funky andaaz! Please spread to all brothers and sisters as it deserves the maximum audience to see it and enjoy! Word of mouth is important to spread the channel to unknown people who are missing out on the action...

    • @dreadfulbodyguard7288
      @dreadfulbodyguard7288 2 роки тому

      Imagine if all cricket fans were allowed to play in internationals because 'hierarchy is bad'.

  • @Abhijit-ih9zl
    @Abhijit-ih9zl 2 роки тому +1

    Syed muzammil literally gem of Pakistan❤❤.... Pakistan ko aap jese soch ki bahot jyada jarurat he...

  • @drkay6119
    @drkay6119 2 роки тому +9

    What an incredible debate .......plz continue making great videos thank you

    • @ashishnehra5481
      @ashishnehra5481 2 роки тому

      please continue
      ua-cam.com/channels/4HtYKSCFWCjfVwvkQrWHVw.html Chacha is nothing you have seen before. Chacha reveals nothing but the truth in a style unique to him. Pakistani establishment is scared of him which is the ultimate compliment. You will be enthralled and satisfied at the end of it. The content is unreal and surreal. My humble request is if you do love it then please don’t hesitate to spread the channel far and wide to all brother and sisters who don’t know about this great channel.

  • @umayr2935
    @umayr2935 2 роки тому +19

    39:45 2050: "Pak Studies chapter 1: Ertugrul was the first Pakistani"

  • @Cera00Najib
    @Cera00Najib 2 роки тому +5

    Maza agaya dekh kar . As usual muzamil is a treat to watch and listen to

  • @deepaksn6930
    @deepaksn6930 2 роки тому +12

    Shehzad looks relaxed than other podcast ( jo ho rha hai hone do ab kuch nhi ho skta 👀 wala attitude )
    Great conversation

  • @adeelakif6657
    @adeelakif6657 2 роки тому +4

    After Evey podcast I think write some thing excellent about this podcast , but never did this , I'm speechless 😶 , stay strong shehzad bhai, kch new way Se Sochny Ka Mel moka mela jata h !!

  • @akshaywankhede5367
    @akshaywankhede5367 2 роки тому +1

    What a discussion!!!!
    Thanks.
    found some really good minds to hear

  • @hotfun07
    @hotfun07 2 роки тому +3

    Bhai, hoga wahi jo Fauj chahegi.
    Seedhi baat. No bakwaas 🙏

  • @Hi-Allah
    @Hi-Allah 2 роки тому +8

    We need you, we love you. After today’s interview please tell your guest to be more careful about his safety. We need you for many many years to come thank you.

  • @omanjabbar200
    @omanjabbar200 2 роки тому +7

    Relieved to hear sane voices in Pakistan.

    • @ashishnehra5481
      @ashishnehra5481 2 роки тому

      hear some more
      ua-cam.com/channels/4HtYKSCFWCjfVwvkQrWHVw.html I want to introduce you to the brilliant and awesome UA-cam channel called Chacha The Commando! Moreover, I want to know your opinion regarding it as your comments matter to me.If you hereby like the channel, (which I reckon that you will) don’t forget to subscribe and spread the word of the channel to all brothers and sisters.

  • @Haris-gh1kn
    @Haris-gh1kn 2 роки тому +6

    Lol I didn't pay attention to half of the conversation I just kept looking at him. I will listen to the audio version later without distraction 😂

    • @squared8388
      @squared8388 2 роки тому

      Thats pretty sus

    • @ashishnehra5481
      @ashishnehra5481 2 роки тому

      he is munching profusely
      ua-cam.com/channels/4HtYKSCFWCjfVwvkQrWHVw.html Chacha is nothing you have seen before. Chacha reveals nothing but the truth in a style unique to him. Pakistani establishment is scared of him which is the ultimate compliment. You will be enthralled and satisfied at the end of it. The content is unreal and surreal. My humble request is if you do love it then please don’t hesitate to spread the channel far and wide to all brother and sisters who don’t know about this great channel.

  • @Faiza-Irfan
    @Faiza-Irfan 2 роки тому +3

    Learning so much from you guys! Thank you for enlightening us on so many levels

  • @bismacosmos
    @bismacosmos 2 роки тому +15

    50:43 so true. I'm also an ex-PTI supporter.😪

  • @hadda2002
    @hadda2002 2 роки тому +1

    I salute you guys for doing this fantastic sitting because I was already noticing everything and you have summed it up.

  • @yashyadav-mz4ue
    @yashyadav-mz4ue 2 роки тому +4

    Pleasure listening you and political scientist muzamil

  • @oasisjan1
    @oasisjan1 2 роки тому +10

    great episode as always. I agree with Muzammil I would rather have liberty than equality, but also maybe it's our privilege that we can say it like surely a guy on the street will give up his liberty to get a bit more equality, ..

    • @breakthelegacy
      @breakthelegacy 2 роки тому

      Equality is liberty.

    • @ashishnehra5481
      @ashishnehra5481 2 роки тому

      @@breakthelegacy Sara,
      ua-cam.com/channels/4HtYKSCFWCjfVwvkQrWHVw.html I would like to guide your attention to this great channel called Chacha The Commando. I have scoured the platform thoroughly for a better,in-depth channel than this but I have been disappointed because it is frankly the OPTIMAL BEST!!! You will never be disappointed with the output and thus the content of the videos as all topics are addressed and nobody is spared like army generals and mullahs. Chacha is very funny so your entertainment will be taken care of. Finally, spread the reach of the channel as everybody deserves this goodness just like you so promote it...

  • @noumanhaiderbukhari6571
    @noumanhaiderbukhari6571 2 роки тому +5

    Much ethically handled MASHALLAH ❤

  • @nishantsrivastava2625
    @nishantsrivastava2625 2 роки тому +6

    India media many time show low standard but India me media ka katal ho jata hai aur dar me ji raha raha censorship hai then I think you did not see ndtv and other jobless youtuber

  • @liaqathussain3011
    @liaqathussain3011 2 роки тому +5

    Lovely stuff....
    Our education system is lost..
    Religious studies should be taught but with the aim to teach kids the real Islam.
    Tolerance, and open minded and to grow mentally...

    • @darthvader4594
      @darthvader4594 2 роки тому +1

      You are asking too much of our people....

    • @uzaifkarime4080
      @uzaifkarime4080 Рік тому

      Schools are not for religious studies 🙏

  • @muhammadanassiddiqui8228
    @muhammadanassiddiqui8228 2 роки тому +7

    Sir time to Unite against this PTI Taliban rigeme

  • @shivsharma883
    @shivsharma883 2 роки тому +1

    Brilliant discussion.Relevant for everyone.kudos...

  • @anambutt8127
    @anambutt8127 2 роки тому +3

    I have started following Syed Muzammil's channel, he always sounds so angry 😁 Great conversation though 👍

  • @basmahriaz4349
    @basmahriaz4349 2 роки тому +2

    Really enjoyed this discussion!

  • @awaismehdi4430
    @awaismehdi4430 2 роки тому +5

    This whole situation is very depressing.

  • @awaisgujjargujjar4641
    @awaisgujjargujjar4641 2 роки тому +5

    I like this work. Be brave bro we are with you.

  • @ssmujoo
    @ssmujoo 2 роки тому +5

    Excellent conversation. Frequency of new episodes are low. On the other hand to produce quality programs, it has to be that way.

    • @ashishnehra5481
      @ashishnehra5481 2 роки тому

      he needs the guests to give time
      ua-cam.com/channels/4HtYKSCFWCjfVwvkQrWHVw.html Why don’t you try the channel called Chacha The Commando? It has everything in terms of varied quality which is quality in nature as well as bringing the fun element. You will never be bored as Chacha can command your attention and he is blessed with being so funny effortlessly. No better channel pertaining the issues of Pakistan so it’s very integral that you show your appreciation by promoting the channel to other brothers and sisters.

  • @ali19231
    @ali19231 2 роки тому +13

    His point that hierarchies are natural was extremely careless. The same predator-versus-prey or oppressor-versus-oppressed argument is often used to legitimize patriachy and capitalism. I expected an explanation from him, or I could hear it from any of you here (and no, don't give me that lobster example you read from Jordan Peterson's book). He quickly sidelined the claim after saying that. Nevertheless, another informative podcast from you Shehzad. Love to both of you!

    • @ashishnehra5481
      @ashishnehra5481 2 роки тому

      momentum is here
      ua-cam.com/channels/4HtYKSCFWCjfVwvkQrWHVw.html Simply the greatest channel about our noisy neighbour Pakistan. We should know about the deep dark secrets about them to hurt them where it matters most! In addition, we will be educated and entertained simultaneously as CHACHA is a very funny individual like Pathan Bhai but with a more regular work ethic which is great for us as MORE CONTENT! He always does a daily midnight live show so his interaction is high with his members.So spread the word of mouth about it....

  • @sunil.yousaf
    @sunil.yousaf Рік тому

    The best. Enjoyed every bit of it. Expecting a new session very soon. 🌹

  • @studywithsurhan5106
    @studywithsurhan5106 2 роки тому +3

    buht acha podcast, dua hy ap dono jeety rahen, abaad rahen.

  • @hadda2002
    @hadda2002 2 роки тому

    This is truly a wealth of knowledge discussion. Loved it.

  • @usrakhan975
    @usrakhan975 2 роки тому +2

    Bhai Muzammil....you are way too good man ..way too good...kahan se latay ho aap ye eloquent way of conversation, being woke...Love you.

  • @akeysoni123
    @akeysoni123 2 роки тому

    Syed bhai is one of the most sane voices that i personally find in Pakistan because he seems to have an unbiased approach towards situations like this kudos to you lots of love and regards from 🇮🇳 Instead of watching reaction videos your channel should be watched by people in India to get the sense on liberals in Pakistan. God Bless You Guys ❤️.

  • @tanveerahmad3537
    @tanveerahmad3537 Рік тому +1

    Debate about Capitalist imperialism is a food of thought. Keep growing Shehzad. Love to Muzamil 💖

  • @utpalkhardenavis2889
    @utpalkhardenavis2889 Рік тому

    Its been great to find an intellectual like Syed Muzammil. One not only learns about causes of current Pakistani societal/political issues but more importantly one gets introduced to western philosophies too.

  • @zaighamriaz4865
    @zaighamriaz4865 2 роки тому +3

    Hmm...I may not intellectually be that impressed by Muzammil...but I immensely respect him for the difficult moral positions he takes and stands by it

    • @a_a4066
      @a_a4066 2 роки тому +1

      May i ask why?

  • @danishali6746
    @danishali6746 2 роки тому +2

    Fantastic guys ....love ur discussion

  • @Scapegoat0442
    @Scapegoat0442 2 роки тому +12

    Ahhhhh he is back again. Both you are my heroes bros!!

    • @AKumar-co7oe
      @AKumar-co7oe 2 роки тому

      @@ThePakistanExperience Got away with saying some bullshit this time. "Indian journalists get kidnapped" my arse. Arfa Khanum and practically everyone in the Wire, Scroll, Quint is still waging war against the govt at all times. And Republic is best compared to your "Jang" - don't know if you've ever bothered reading it.

    • @AKumar-co7oe
      @AKumar-co7oe 2 роки тому

      @@ThePakistanExperience Being anti establishment doesn't imply being high quality - the rubbish they have written is republic level, or rather IndiaTV level. Shakil Chaudhary has an interview with Mazhar Barlas on youtube. anti-establishment dawn published "war till victory" on the day dhaka fell and doesn't stray far from the national narrative after the dawn leaks incident and subsequent reprisals. Let's not even get into zaid hamid and what he gets away with on live tv . Still waiting on an interview of Harris Sultan, if you think you can pull it off without risking your security.

    • @nitishsaxena1372
      @nitishsaxena1372 2 роки тому

      @@AKumar-co7oe I hardly ever watch Wire and Scroll but "waging war" lol

    • @ashishnehra5481
      @ashishnehra5481 2 роки тому

      @@ThePakistanExperience selected
      ua-cam.com/channels/4HtYKSCFWCjfVwvkQrWHVw.html You will never come across a channel that is more informative and funny regarding topic of Pakistan than Chacha The Commando! You will have full paisa vasool fun over there with his roasting of mullahs,judges and army generals. Moreover,there is a special midnight LIVE show as well. One request is that if you love the channel then please do the good deed of spreading the reach of the channel by informing brothers and sisters about the channel(spread the link)

  • @amishbhat3560
    @amishbhat3560 2 роки тому +10

    I love his "Ji bilkul aisa hi hai"
    This is a common phrase there i suppose.

  • @hotfun07
    @hotfun07 2 роки тому +1

    Bhai saab, yahi sab parhayoge to aur 20 saal mein Pak bhi Taliban hi hoga.
    Btw, look after yourself and be safe. A very open and honest dialogue. More power to people and minds like you in Pak 🙏

  • @shellamarilee
    @shellamarilee 2 роки тому +7

    Excellent discussion. I am from India and I am really impressed by your content, understanding and liberal outlook. I have to say with all honesty that except NDTV, The wire, The print, I don’t see any such liberal , independent and balanced channels from India. Nowadays its all about staying in your own echo chamber, swimming in your own exhaust and believe your own disinformation

    • @nacpatil
      @nacpatil 2 роки тому +4

      Its a choice that people made on thier own. State did not have to do it. What Syed is implying is that journalist are being killed and all. Its nowhere like that. Watch fox news in US! Its also part of free media!

    • @71espn
      @71espn 2 роки тому

      Newslaundry

    • @shreyassarkar9648
      @shreyassarkar9648 2 роки тому

      NDTV, The Print are good sources but the Wire appears to me as a pure propaganda platform with radicals like Arfa masquerading as liberal

    • @sachindhoni2095
      @sachindhoni2095 Рік тому

      NDTV, THE WIRE, THE PRINT All Are HINDU VIRODHI & JIHAADI TERRORIST MINDSET SUPPORTER...

  • @skitbash
    @skitbash 2 роки тому +4

    Just imagine, these debates would take place in parliament.

    • @darthvader4594
      @darthvader4594 2 роки тому +2

      The MPs would get lynched in the public.

  • @aroojtahir649
    @aroojtahir649 2 роки тому +1

    Muzammil I love you !! I don't know what to praise... the way you speak ,your humble smile or your intellectual abilities . How can you look so cute while talking on serious issues ?.i get distracted seriously and your Urdu is too good MashAllah. People like you should
    Be in politics I wish you become our prime minister one day insh'Allah .
    Thank God you are not in fashion industry .
    Love you so much 😘

  • @f.50
    @f.50 2 роки тому +4

    Great podcast again! For the algo

  • @sushanthkumar800
    @sushanthkumar800 2 роки тому +4

    The conversation that happened in the end only takes place when South Asians talk. Felt the same when conversing with Dr. Madhavi Menon and Manan Ahmed Asif. Maybe it's just the subcontinent thing where ideas are presented through a conversation, not through debate like the western model where both think they are correct.

  • @geetaprabhakar4261
    @geetaprabhakar4261 Рік тому

    Syed Muzammil,Real journalists like you are absolutely amazing and impartial and are fourth pillar of democracy 🥰🥰🥰🥰

  • @justsofarah1
    @justsofarah1 2 роки тому +1

    Appreciate your positivity Shehzad!

  • @mithsindia5150
    @mithsindia5150 2 роки тому +2

    Muzamil ❤️ . Just love his voice.
    Dear Pakistanis pls listen to him for once for your benefit,not saying with some ulterior motives as an Indian , you continue to be hostile to India, unfortunate but hostility is gonna remain (but at least listen to him)

    • @ashishnehra5481
      @ashishnehra5481 2 роки тому

      he is a top journalist
      ua-cam.com/channels/4HtYKSCFWCjfVwvkQrWHVw.html Why don’t you try the channel called Chacha The Commando? It has everything in terms of varied quality which is quality in nature as well as bringing the fun element. You will never be bored as Chacha can command your attention and he is blessed with being so funny effortlessly. No better channel pertaining the issues of Pakistan so it’s very integral that you show your appreciation by promoting the channel to other brothers and sisters.

  • @rakeshvishwas4331
    @rakeshvishwas4331 2 роки тому

    All the best from India, you have chosen a very important topic related to the future generation of pakistan.

  • @syedfarhanofficial
    @syedfarhanofficial 2 роки тому

    Thank You Syed Muzammil.

  • @kasingh5633
    @kasingh5633 2 роки тому +5

    This has to be Pakistani rational thinkers channel. Nice

    • @ashishnehra5481
      @ashishnehra5481 2 роки тому

      another rational Pakistani
      ua-cam.com/channels/4HtYKSCFWCjfVwvkQrWHVw.html Chacha is nothing you have seen before. Chacha reveals nothing but the truth in a style unique to him. Pakistani establishment is scared of him which is the ultimate compliment. You will be enthralled and satisfied at the end of it. The content is unreal and surreal. My humble request is if you do love it then please don’t hesitate to spread the channel far and wide to all brother and sisters who don’t know about this great channel.

  • @geetaprabhakar4261
    @geetaprabhakar4261 Рік тому

    Love you, educated youth of Pakistan 🥰🥰🥰Syed Muzammil You are the hope 🥰

  • @amtulshafi2970
    @amtulshafi2970 Рік тому +1

    Allah ap dono ko hefazait ma rhaka, ap jesa leader mela Pakistan ko

  • @sewaligoswami781
    @sewaligoswami781 2 роки тому +4

    Absolute treat.

    • @ashishnehra5481
      @ashishnehra5481 2 роки тому

      Sewali is an unusual name
      ua-cam.com/channels/4HtYKSCFWCjfVwvkQrWHVw.html I would like to guide your attention to this great channel called Chacha The Commando. I have scoured the platform thoroughly for a better,in-depth channel than this but I have been disappointed because it is frankly the OPTIMAL BEST!!! You will never be disappointed with the output and thus the content of the videos as all topics are addressed and nobody is spared like army generals and mullahs. Chacha is very funny so your entertainment will be taken care of. Finally, spread the reach of the channel as everybody deserves this goodness just like you so promote it...

  • @kaleemullah9508
    @kaleemullah9508 2 роки тому +7

    I want these both youtubers again on podcast.....

    • @ashishnehra5481
      @ashishnehra5481 2 роки тому

      go ahead make my day
      ua-cam.com/channels/4HtYKSCFWCjfVwvkQrWHVw.html I want to introduce you to the brilliant and awesome UA-cam channel called Chacha The Commando! Moreover, I want to know your opinion regarding it as your comments matter to me.If you hereby like the channel, (which I reckon that you will) don’t forget to subscribe and spread the word of the channel to all brothers and sisters.

  • @VloggingwithSadiaology
    @VloggingwithSadiaology 2 роки тому +4

    This is amazing! ❤️

    • @ashishnehra5481
      @ashishnehra5481 2 роки тому

      so is this
      ua-cam.com/channels/4HtYKSCFWCjfVwvkQrWHVw.html Chacha is nothing you have seen before. Chacha reveals nothing but the truth in a style unique to him. Pakistani establishment is scared of him which is the ultimate compliment. You will be enthralled and satisfied at the end of it. The content is unreal and surreal. My humble request is if you do love it then please don’t hesitate to spread the channel far and wide to all brother and sisters who don’t know about this great channel.

  • @peta2206
    @peta2206 2 роки тому +5

    This guy speak very much sence.

    • @ashishnehra5481
      @ashishnehra5481 2 роки тому

      karthik,
      ua-cam.com/channels/4HtYKSCFWCjfVwvkQrWHVw.html I want to introduce you to the brilliant and awesome UA-cam channel called Chacha The Commando! Moreover, I want to know your opinion regarding it as your comments matter to me.If you hereby like the channel, (which I reckon that you will) don’t forget to subscribe and spread the word of the channel to all brothers and sisters.

  • @shivanshumishra5839
    @shivanshumishra5839 2 роки тому +4

    Taliban is accepting aid from China. ... now please tell me that is it in accordance to the Islamic Principles that an Islamic govt can accept aid from a non Muslim nation .
    And if no then how come one can term taliban as an ultimate Islamic emirate.

  • @hotfun07
    @hotfun07 2 роки тому +2

    Syed Muzammil ne to poora Philosophical thought summarise kar diya 🙃

  • @Shrimpspiration
    @Shrimpspiration Рік тому

    @53:00 how the tables have turned, and how correctly you understood the situation.