ISI, Taliban and Kashmir: A History of Militancy in Pakistan - Zahid Hussain - TPE 346

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  • Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
  • Zahid Hussain comes on for an explosive episode of The Pakistan Experience on the history of militancy in Pakistan.
    On this episode, Zahid Hussain talks about TTP 2.0, Afghanistan, Kashmir, the 1980s, Benazir Bhutto, Hamid Gul, Musharraf, Lal Masjid, Baloch Insurgency, 9th May and more.
    Zahid Hussain is an award-winning journalist and writer. He is a correspondent for The Times of London and The Wall Street Journal. He also has covered Pakistan and Afghanistan for several other international publications, including Newsweek, the Associated Press and The Economist.
    Hussain has authored two books: Frontline Pakistan: The struggle with militant Islam (2007) and The scorpion’s Tail: The relentless rise of Islamic militants in Pakistan (2010). The books have won widespread acclaim as seminal texts on the subject.
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    Chapters:
    0:00 Introduction
    1:15 TTP 2.0, Militancy and Afghan Policy
    8:30 History of Militant Policy in Pakistan and Kashmir
    14:00 ISI and the 1980s
    17:49 Pakistan as a Frontline State
    20:30 Benazir Bhutto's policy on militancy and her assassination's
    28:30 Musharraf and Zia-ul-Haq
    34:30 Lal Masjid, State Patronage and Legacy
    43:00 Musharraf, Bugti and Baloch Insurgency
    56:30 State Policy, Doctrines and 9th May
    1:05:32 Audience Questions
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  • @brijkhanna2417
    @brijkhanna2417 2 місяці тому +117

    Please don't forget that it was Benazir only who gave official call of Jehad against India while visiting POK .

    • @Suryanarayana-mx8mh
      @Suryanarayana-mx8mh 2 місяці тому +11

      Every Bhutto was a great danger to India and destructive of a Rational Approach in Pakistan.

    • @sitarampradhan8488
      @sitarampradhan8488 2 місяці тому

      ​@user-bo8bu7jl2rwhole Pakistan and subcontinent belongs to India. Our past leaders were dumbs they must had implemented one India policy like one China policy. We should have invaded all our neighbours like China with ideology of communism. Because nehuru and Indira Gandhi were communism lover.

    • @ChakraVart1
      @ChakraVart1 2 місяці тому +7

      Yeah I remember “Jag-Jag mo-mo han-han” from the beloved liberal icon of Pakistan, Madam Bhutto

    • @ChakraVart1
      @ChakraVart1 2 місяці тому +7

      @user-bo8bu7jl2ryou mean apart from the signed instrument of accession?

    • @Alstiyan33
      @Alstiyan33 2 місяці тому +5

      As an oversea Pakistani Azad Kashmiri...let me tell u that nothing like POK exists...Only Azad Kashmir and IOJK.
      Thanks

  • @NYN_000
    @NYN_000 2 місяці тому +300

    Jinnah was right. Thanks to him for separating this mess from India.
    India would not have been this much ahead today without partition.

    • @pashtoeditz1264
      @pashtoeditz1264 2 місяці тому +65

      Hhhh love u bro, i wish our leader Abdul Ghafar khan (Bacha Khan) would have make a seperate state Pashtunistan.

    • @devendrasinghdalal2900
      @devendrasinghdalal2900 2 місяці тому

      Hasan Nisar said that had all Muslims left India in 1947, India would have been an advanced economy by this time. Most of these guys produce like rabbits, don't send children to good schools, live on government subsidies, and despite being the second largest majority still claim to be a minority.

    • @atokimruk937
      @atokimruk937 2 місяці тому

      But he failed to complete his job of getting every Muslim out of India. Pakistanis and Jenna did nothing in rhe freedom struggle but sat on their asses and got two free countries. It was Hindus who fought against the British and went to jail in large numbers for years to win freedom.

    • @junaidmohammed280
      @junaidmohammed280 2 місяці тому +29

      @@pashtoeditz1264 Yes separate Pashtun nation or re-merger with Afgh would have been best for all Pashtuns

    • @venkataramanasrivatsasa6470
      @venkataramanasrivatsasa6470 2 місяці тому +8

      Soon Indians would be celebrating Jinnah and Pakistan Gandhi.

  • @devendrasinghdalal2900
    @devendrasinghdalal2900 2 місяці тому +51

    The uprising in 1989 in Kashmir was not indigenous. Lt General Asad Durani, ex-ISI chief was better informed on the subject. He has confessed during his interview with Mehdi Hasan of Al-Jazira, that the uprising in Kashmir was the biggest achievement of the ISI. Please watch, Pakistan a victim or creator of terrorism on You Tube.

    • @rakeshkumar-db7qh
      @rakeshkumar-db7qh 2 місяці тому +2

      Yes , speaker here is biased. The said uprising was not at all indiginous. Many books nd reference was made by pakistani regarding ISI involvment.

    • @vivekpatil007
      @vivekpatil007 2 місяці тому

      Please provide the link

    • @rakeshkumar-db7qh
      @rakeshkumar-db7qh 2 місяці тому +1

      The Spy chronical by AS Dulat nd Asad Durani.

    • @devendrasinghdalal2900
      @devendrasinghdalal2900 2 місяці тому +2

      @@vivekpatil007 Please type, " Interview of ex-ISI chief Lt General Asad Durani at Oxford by Mehdi Hasan of Al-Jazira". Pay attention towards the end. Have strong heart to watch the truth of the double games played by Pakistan. Great truthful interview.

    • @AhmedSultan-hi4gv
      @AhmedSultan-hi4gv Місяць тому +1

      Assad Durrani was not on the scene during Kashmir uprising. This was in fact a spontaneous reaction on rigged elections in Kashmir under Indira's ruling Congress. It was absolutely an indigenous movement initiated by JKL Front and JI. However it later became adopted child by ISI with tacit support of CIA. The latter was also behind Sikhs Movement in East Punjab. Pakistan was just playing as second fiddle. The US of course used Pakistan as proxy but she herself was the main beneficiary. India which was pro Soveit was tamed and ultimately they became strategic partners. The Jargil War should be scene in the same background.

  • @NYN_000
    @NYN_000 2 місяці тому +64

    He is good guest. Right on the point.
    No drama, no self-claims, no false history narration like other guests.

    • @MsShakirshah
      @MsShakirshah 2 місяці тому

      Then what is the solution, my friend

    • @zahurmalik9447
      @zahurmalik9447 2 місяці тому

      ​@@MsShakirshahmedia people can't give solutions

    • @AnujKumar-wj3ju
      @AnujKumar-wj3ju 2 місяці тому +3

      There is lot of half baked truth he omitted for eg he sincerely minus the Islamic 🐫 🕌 G Haadi terrorist attack on India 🇮🇳 in kasmir in on 22 September 1947 by pakistani G Haadi army and pashtun tribes. He also omitted genocide on Hindu's 🕉️ 🚩 Sikhs in Kashmir in 1989 1990 which was started around 4 or 5 years back, he also omitted the pakistani 🇵🇰 🕌 G Haadi army support of khalistani terrorist movement in 80s.

    • @NYN_000
      @NYN_000 2 місяці тому

      @@AnujKumar-wj3ju avoiding mentions is fine as far as there is no fake information.
      I have seenmany guests who self claimed many things about India which I found false.
      I also saw guests who gave false reference of history many times to prove their knowledge about the topic.
      Some also uttered illogical things about India nad Pak in over excitement.

    • @AnujKumar-wj3ju
      @AnujKumar-wj3ju 2 місяці тому

      @@NYN_000 Hiding information which is in public & present a half baked truth is as good as lieing. It's standard narrative of Pakistan so called intellectual that every thing gone south because of zia ul haq.

  • @sccyt
    @sccyt 2 місяці тому +109

    Pakistan destroyed itself with the Kashmir obsession. The Afgan play was just to pay bills.

  • @junaidmohammed280
    @junaidmohammed280 2 місяці тому +159

    1947 se hi mujahid bheja tha and since 65, bleed india policy has been implemented. Its an another thing that Bleed Pakistan ho gaya..😂

    • @gagaq-xd7cj
      @gagaq-xd7cj 2 місяці тому +1

      1947 Pakistan
      2047 Khalistan Nagaland Kashmir Tamil

    • @Modi-oy1gl
      @Modi-oy1gl 2 місяці тому +1

      1947 Pakistan
      2047 Khalistan Nagaland Kashmir Tamil

    • @ahaanmisra4892
      @ahaanmisra4892 2 місяці тому +25

      ​@@Modi-oy1gl2027 Balochistan
      2030 Gilgit
      2035 Sindh
      Wow so many new neighbours!!

    • @tilakmahto8179
      @tilakmahto8179 2 місяці тому +1

      Bleed India was sucessful in 48 and in 80s with US support

    • @junaidmohammed280
      @junaidmohammed280 2 місяці тому +12

      @@tilakmahto8179 If the country you tried to bleed is worlds 3rd largest economy and you are begging IMF for 1 billion dollar loan and that is considered success then keep at it..👍👍

  • @ambarishupadhyay921
    @ambarishupadhyay921 2 місяці тому +250

    Pakistan’s India hatred and its obsession with hurting India has truly destroyed the country. Almost to the point of no recovery…

    • @zahurmalik9447
      @zahurmalik9447 2 місяці тому +13

      Hatred obsession has always been two way. Keep in mind; the AKHND BHARAT concept

    • @puneetmishra4726
      @puneetmishra4726 2 місяці тому +59

      ​@@zahurmalik9447 If India really wanted "Akhand Bharat", Bangladesh would have been made a province of the Republic of India.

    • @guptavishwas
      @guptavishwas 2 місяці тому +32

      @@puneetmishra4726bhai inko itna samjh me aa jata to fir bat hi kya thi

    • @TheUltimateTruth381
      @TheUltimateTruth381 2 місяці тому

      ​​​@@puneetmishra4726Bro, it was impossible to make Bangladesh as their province,
      India would become globally isolated oppressor,
      With tons of sanctions
      Which would have crushed India's economy & somewhat leftover power,
      As,
      India also don't have oil reserves like Iran or Russia to combat sanctions 😂🤣🤣
      &
      2ndly Bangaalis would never accept India as ruler
      When they got freedom from these fanatic Hjndus
      After huge political struggle.
      So,
      Bengaal would have become an ultra pro max 2nd Kashmir for India
      With much worse consequences
      & India didn't had enough power & resources & manpower, to manage that at all.!!
      It's not as easy to occupy a big country of over 10 million people, 😂
      A small place like Kashmir with small population is still requiring India to put 1 million army & a lot of resources there 😂😂
      So, Bangladesh woukd require 5 million+ army to control which is impossible 😂🤣
      India would have even lost Kashmir & many parts & pretty much get themselves destroyed, like a suicide
      If they had tried to make Bangladesh a province
      So,
      You're lucky that at that time people with some brain were doing these tasks,
      So, they just politically influenced bangladesh with their favorable govt. in Bangladesh
      &
      Not some fanatics like you 🤣🤣

    • @adityaghildiyal6630
      @adityaghildiyal6630 2 місяці тому

      ​@@zahurmalik9447 hatred obsession is predominantly one way, remember N@zis hated Jews, Jews were not the ones who hated German/N@zis first.
      Similarly Pakistan's hatred for India came first, Indian hate to Pakistan is the retaliation.

  • @rkchoubs
    @rkchoubs 2 місяці тому +88

    The tragedy is that Pakistan military and leadership is not realizing their mistakes, even now .

    • @MsShakirshah
      @MsShakirshah 2 місяці тому

      Tell us the solution

    • @Anonymous-px9wk
      @Anonymous-px9wk 2 місяці тому +8

      ​@@MsShakirshah forget kashmir for 20 years
      And work on every foriegn policy that economically benefits people of Pakistan
      Make Pakistan business friendly country so that foriegn direct investment and come and increase your exports

    • @MsShakirshah
      @MsShakirshah 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Anonymous-px9wk so true my friend

    • @P4yn3
      @P4yn3 2 місяці тому

      impossible, everything is haram under madrasastan@@Anonymous-px9wk

    • @vinnyshama1066
      @vinnyshama1066 2 місяці тому +4

      Pakistan military and leadership - very well know what they are doing! IT is well planned process - They take loans after loans from anyone who can give? Transfer it to Europe/USA/canada/Australia - Year after years!! Ultimately - Poor people will pay the price and all loans!! Examples - Where all the retire Chiefs live? Where their Kids live???

  • @Sindhi001
    @Sindhi001 Місяць тому +5

    I admire Mr. Zahid Hussain for describing the problems pertinent to Pakistan without comparing to India. He doesn’t suffer from ‘also in India’ syndrome. His clarity about the problems is truly admirable.

  • @nuramura
    @nuramura 2 місяці тому +127

    India must declare 14th August as ‘Good riddance Day’ holiday

    • @cclamba1
      @cclamba1 2 місяці тому +3

      Very true.. We should not even accept their pardon if they wish... 😄😄

    • @mohammedmir777
      @mohammedmir777 2 місяці тому

      What is good about India? Poor footpaths Indians all over the country. We seen how rich India is during the covid19 DELTA,bodies burning 🔥 in the streets and their health care. Indian transport system bicycle rakshaw no TOILETS and the list goes on for the rising India. 😂😂😂

    • @primordialarchetypes2927
      @primordialarchetypes2927 2 місяці тому +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @GouthamKethireddy
      @GouthamKethireddy Місяць тому

      You mean 2 holidays 😂😂😂

    • @mohammedmir777
      @mohammedmir777 Місяць тому

      That why extremists Hindus shot Gandhi in 1947.

  • @alifahad9992
    @alifahad9992 2 місяці тому +19

    Very informative, The awaited person finally came.Thanks TPE

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  2 місяці тому

      ❤️

    • @gagaq-xd7cj
      @gagaq-xd7cj 2 місяці тому

      @@ThePakistanExperiencehave a video on Khalistan Nagaland Kashmir Tamil freedom

    • @PatelAnkit-ww8ri
      @PatelAnkit-ww8ri Місяць тому

      Sirf Kashmir ke bare mein suchane se Tera Desh kangal hogaya to 3 states ki baat kar Raha hai to soch Tera Desh ka kya hal hoga pura samnadar mein tabdil ho jayega​@@gagaq-xd7cj

  • @iamwham
    @iamwham 2 місяці тому +71

    Even as a leftist contributor in the Pakistani space, I find it astonishing that you are unable to unequivocally condemn how the encouragement of fundamentalist Islam and terrorism by Pakistan has destroyed the Kashmiri youth and the possibility of peace with India. It was a stupid foreign policy and even now the civilian leaders refuse to acknowledge it, asking for proof and such. You can find the records of ISI directing the Mumbai attacks. Be a responsible neighbor if you want to progress. Roti, kapda,padhai aur makaan are the basic needs of our populace.

    • @CGT127
      @CGT127 2 місяці тому

      Dear Leftists all over the world work hand in glove with Islamists 😊

    • @girishdubey724
      @girishdubey724 2 місяці тому

      Muslim leftist never speak against Islam because they know next day they will have STSJ unlike in other religion were Leftist thrive just because of bashing their own religion

    • @CGT127
      @CGT127 2 місяці тому

      All leftist world over are hand in glove with Islamists they have a strong eco system. 😊

    • @MarauderinChief
      @MarauderinChief 2 місяці тому

      There is peace at the LoC, i reckon.
      Infact, that's possibly the most uneventful of your borders at present.

    • @rakadus
      @rakadus 2 місяці тому +2

      Logic stops working west of Wagah border.

  • @newguyat77
    @newguyat77 2 місяці тому +10

    8:46 history of supporting militancy in Afghanistan started in 1972 by ISI. Christiane faire in her book referred based on green books of pakistani army.

  • @khurramjawaid8355
    @khurramjawaid8355 2 місяці тому +10

    You've brought another favourite person to the program.
    His book No win war is one of my favourites.

  • @FawadMasud
    @FawadMasud 2 місяці тому +4

    Zahid Sb is an absolute Gem and Shehzad was absolutely right that there should be a series with him on how our country was destroyed by our own leaders.

  • @chaitanyakada1341
    @chaitanyakada1341 2 місяці тому +13

    We thank Jinnah for his enormous (indirect) services to the purification of Bharath and its growth and development.
    He is a visionary leader who knows exactly how to take out the shit from Bharath.
    His indirect services are very much appreciated.

    • @rakadus
      @rakadus 2 місяці тому

      Are you waiting for another Jinnah?

    • @sudhanshu7115
      @sudhanshu7115 2 місяці тому +5

      ​@@rakadus you won't believe but india will give kashmir to Pakistan if all muslim promise to go to Pakistan with Kashmir . Unfortunately it is not possible .

  • @nikhilv4499
    @nikhilv4499 2 місяці тому +63

    1946 pakistan banega
    1947 pakistan zindabad
    1970 operation searchlight
    1971 bangladesh zindabad
    2024 taliban ttp mission sharia
    2025 khybar Pakhtunkhwa zindabad
    2029 baloch liberation army
    2030 balochistan zindabad
    2034 sindh separatist movement
    2035 sindhudesh zindabad
    2040 ek tha pakistan
    2050 kon tha pakistan
    lee jinnah
    did i create 5 countries or 1
    whatever being jinnah i am proud that i created world jihadist factory saved india

    • @Babav-xz8vu
      @Babav-xz8vu 2 місяці тому +5

      Am Nepali Hindu I stand with Khalistan Nagaland Kashmir Tamil

    • @friendsgroup470
      @friendsgroup470 2 місяці тому +4

      ​abdul aata mila kya😢

    • @Gagan9016
      @Gagan9016 2 місяці тому +5

      ​@@Babav-xz8vu aata mila kya

    • @csheru
      @csheru 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Babav-xz8vuAbdul ammi ka halala mutah misyar hua ???

    • @NovelTuber
      @NovelTuber 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Babav-xz8vuthen you are standing alone 😂

  • @nishantsharma7832
    @nishantsharma7832 2 місяці тому +39

    Maximum Pakistanis want shariya in their state according to pew research survey,but they are against TTP.bhai mulq me confusion ni hai pura mulq hi confused hai😛😛

    • @user-rh5jp2sh4s
      @user-rh5jp2sh4s 2 місяці тому +2

      It all depends on what you understand by these labels.

    • @muha6762
      @muha6762 2 місяці тому

      It is funny that Indians are so active here commenting about Muslims wanting Shariya in Pakistan, when that is not really true, while in their country, they are establishing the extreme form of hinduism. Why are Indians wanting hindutva country?

    • @alikazmi1422
      @alikazmi1422 2 місяці тому

      There are diff interpretations of sharia according to diff schools of thought. Nobody wants the TTP's so called "sharia". Let's not even call it "sharia" in the first place

    • @Rogue_Terminator
      @Rogue_Terminator 29 днів тому

      @@user-rh5jp2sh4s No you just lack basic knowledge of pakistani culture and the vision and interpretation of Islam majority subscribe to.

    • @user-rh5jp2sh4s
      @user-rh5jp2sh4s 29 днів тому

      @Rogue_Terminator
      True, there are issues, but
      one can go by perception , or one can go by a thing called FACTS. Even in the worst time of General Zia under whom the military establishment strongly supported religious parties, they got 16% seats. Also, in the last election, ALL religious parties performed poorly. You talk of TLP, how seats did they win, TELL ME?. But the thing is when one finds faults in the "other" than probably its easier to reconcile with that ones own state has many short commings and the government is turning authoritarian...

  • @sschaubal
    @sschaubal 2 місяці тому +30

    You are just beating around the bush. The fundamental problem with Pakistan is that it follows Islam. It does not matter how much you treat the symptoms, all of which arise out of the base issue. And since it is not a problem that you will ever be able to solve or diminsh, you are doomed to fail miserably. Good riddance.

    • @cinefile0075
      @cinefile0075 2 місяці тому +3

      Millatary is the main problem, not having civilian democracy is the main problem. Islam maybe second or even 5th. You'd find night clubs, even bikini beaches in Turkey. Indonesia and Malaysia and Azerbaijan still manage to become democracies (flawed like India but still). UAE,A Monarchy, is definitely better than Pakistan right. Myanmar has been run by army too throughout her life after independence . Yes it gets worst when u add Islam in to it. As an atheist, Not saying Islam isn't Pakistanis problem, but biggest problem is army control. Civilian democracy has a tendency of making things better. It takes time tho but still better than army run government.

    • @sschaubal
      @sschaubal 2 місяці тому +7

      @@cinefile0075 Military's predominance over the civilian government is just another symptom of Islam. All the countries you mentioned where there is an apparent democracy are just in their transition phase. Islam always triumphs in the long run unless ofcourse, you escape its clutches. Let oil run out in Saudi and UAE, which works as the bulwark against their tumble. Or let European influence run out in Turkey and you will see that it won't take too long for these countries to start behaving according to their basest animal instincts.

    • @shatnermohanty6678
      @shatnermohanty6678 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@cinefile0075how is India a " flawed" democracy?

    • @user-rh5jp2sh4s
      @user-rh5jp2sh4s 2 місяці тому +2

      Well, Turkiye and Malaysia, Indonesia are all Muslim. In fact, their per capita GDP exceeds India's by FAR. Even the growth rates of Bangladesh in the last years exceed that of India. Now, should one ever claim that the real reason for the low GDP per capita (per head) comes from the fact that the majority Indians are Hindu🤦🏻‍♂️. Context matters, something BJP IT cell trolls are blind to.

    • @muha6762
      @muha6762 2 місяці тому +1

      So by your logic, the recent happenings in India with places of worship, rising extremism and suppression of minority sufficient to day that the "fundamental problem with India is that it follows Hinduism"?

  • @preetmohantuli1795
    @preetmohantuli1795 2 місяці тому +4

    I feel humbled listening to these sane, knowledgeable amd thought provoking voices.
    Great going Shehzad bhai

  • @wherewewent
    @wherewewent 2 місяці тому +9

    Every country has an army. But pak army has a country . It summerize everything .😂

  • @Zarcharias78
    @Zarcharias78 2 місяці тому +1

    Wonderful discussion. Refreshing to see the honest & straight forward commentary. Great guest.

  • @farhanakbar996
    @farhanakbar996 2 місяці тому +3

    Yeh podcast sun k aik taraf tu banda Zahid Sahib ka fan ho jaata hai dosri taraf hairat bhi hoti hai k Zahid Sahib aisi batain karty hain aur phir bhi bachy huay hain. Allah Pak Zahid Sahib aur Shehzad Bhai aapko apne hifz o amaan main rakhay k aap log asal masail saamny laaty hain despite consequences.

  • @my_universe2118
    @my_universe2118 2 місяці тому +16

    Podcast with manzoor pashteen mohsin dawar Ali wazir mahrang baloch

  • @rkchoubs
    @rkchoubs 2 місяці тому +1

    Very grounded ,well informed and a humble guest !

  • @BharatiyaVaasi
    @BharatiyaVaasi 2 місяці тому +10

    Thank you for the wonderful podcast with Zahid Hussain Saab! The conversation was engaging, but I was taken aback when Hussain Saab mentioned "Kashmir mein militancy theek thaa." I'm confused about what he meant by that. Is he suggesting that militancy is acceptable in Kashmir but not in Pakistan? It's important to remember that extremism, militancy, or terrorism is never justifiable, regardless of the location. Unless people change their mindset, Pakistan will keep heading towards extremism.

    • @NewYork0110J
      @NewYork0110J 2 місяці тому +2

      Hate still find space in sane looking minds

    • @vinsin328
      @vinsin328 2 місяці тому +1

      Yes as long as it was done by Kashmiri Muslims, not by Muslims from other regions. And Pakistan pushed Muslims from other countries as making Kashmiri Muslims a terrorist was a difficult job.

    • @BharatiyaVaasi
      @BharatiyaVaasi 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@NewYork0110J Yes, sane minds nature and extermism comes out when it is Hindu, Kashmir or Islam, No question about it and that's why extremism will never end in Pakistan. Hatred is and will be Pakistan's downfall.

    • @Secularismsucks
      @Secularismsucks Місяць тому

      Note: when it comes to India and Kashmir no Pakistani is honest and has the balls to be honest.
      Liars liars and liars is how Pakistani establishment is identified in the world.😊

  • @newguyat77
    @newguyat77 2 місяці тому +11

    17:00 adrian levy's book on ISI details how ISI made money from drug trade. Drug trade was also done inside Pakistan with disastrous consequences.

    • @vinsin328
      @vinsin328 2 місяці тому

      That is done through Dawood Ibrahim.

  • @RohiteshSharma
    @RohiteshSharma 2 місяці тому +3

    When you only have optimism on your side and you don't let it go. Number of times the bravest people don't have the 'look'. More power to him and you.

  • @shivampatil23
    @shivampatil23 2 місяці тому +35

    IMF is going to say Hiiii in 3 Months to Pakistan 🇵🇰

    • @Babav-xz8vu
      @Babav-xz8vu 2 місяці тому +1

      Khalistan Jindabad

    • @SYLFan2008
      @SYLFan2008 2 місяці тому +7

      ​@@Babav-xz8vu: Pehle aatey ki soch.

    • @alishaalisha1186
      @alishaalisha1186 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Babav-xz8vutere papa hai khalistan..papa baloch log nahi hai..gilgit China ko Dede tumse naa ho payega kuch..yaad rakh khalistan banega naa toh pakistan ka Punjab bhi jayega...pagla

    • @kasimahmadzai8150
      @kasimahmadzai8150 2 місяці тому

      In 3 months time Pakistan needs to pay $6 billion dollars to IMF for previous loans. But they already thinking to barrow $6 billion in the next 3 months.
      How is that possible ???????

    • @TamBramThankyouMam
      @TamBramThankyouMam Місяць тому

      Pakistan is going to become a colony of the West or China again. They will need to fight for independence for real. No sponging off Gandhi et al this time.

  • @NiazHJafri
    @NiazHJafri 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you very much Shehzad for having Zahid Sb in !!!
    One of the ace journalists of Pakistan!
    More & More Power To You Sir !!!
    ✊️👊🤛🤜

  • @anarchicdrifter
    @anarchicdrifter 2 місяці тому +1

    Zahid sb is so erudite & so very pleasing to listen to .... :)
    thank you once again SGS... :))
    will also look up Zahid sb's other work/writings/interviews, now that SGS has facilitated this tarruf for the likes of me.

  • @Kettensinh
    @Kettensinh 2 місяці тому +2

    We would love to hear more from Zahid hussain. Everything he said makes sense.

  • @RajWilAdi
    @RajWilAdi 2 місяці тому +3

    What an analysis and interview! Simply wow!

  • @kashankashif8406
    @kashankashif8406 2 місяці тому +3

    Gonna re-read scorpions tail after listening to this podcast!
    Thankyou shezad for yet another banger, also god save my exam tomorrow

  • @hafeezullahkhan4680
    @hafeezullahkhan4680 2 місяці тому +2

    Always a pleasure to listen to Zahid Hussain saab, such great researcher and acedemic gaint

  • @sulemansultan68
    @sulemansultan68 2 місяці тому +1

    Simply Brilliant.. I am a great fan of Zahid Hussain sb. Have the privilege of reading his all books.He is a true researcher and a great historian with amazing analysis.

  • @farwabatool6138
    @farwabatool6138 2 місяці тому +3

    This was such an amazing podcast!! Shehzad you're a gem for bringing the best guests!!! ❤

  • @FACTPHOBIA677
    @FACTPHOBIA677 2 місяці тому +13

    Could have talked on kasmiri Hindu too

    • @ChakraVart1
      @ChakraVart1 2 місяці тому

      Hah lol you must be new here

    • @Shva927
      @Shva927 2 місяці тому +3

      Well! There is nobody in Pakistan that has unbiased knowledge of history (maybe syed Muzamil, but even he doesn't have knowledge on Indology Or history of ancient Or medivil india(on medivil india his knowledge is limited) ,he just has read many books and speaks his opinions and his knowledge is limited to one or two topics in history mostly European cause that's the only one taught as history and not propaganda).
      U should not except pakistani to talk on these stuff, the foundation of this country was built as an inheritor of the islamic rule of india.
      Every indian needs to stand for himself and not accept anything from pakistani.
      In 1971 91k soldiers got away after raping 300k Bangladeshi women.
      They glorify gazni, gori etc, their values r different, we are not the same.

    • @Shva927
      @Shva927 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@ChakraVart1Well actually he didn't talk on the same.
      He was trying to equate bhagat singh to hamas
      He was trying to justify oct 7th.
      It seems u r new.
      Also if u look at the time invested, then he just touches the sensitive topics so that, in future people would not accuse him of not covering the same.

  • @rafayjamali3726
    @rafayjamali3726 2 місяці тому +1

    Zahid Hussain is a well articulated person.

  • @wiqarali8158
    @wiqarali8158 2 місяці тому +1

    No doubt Zahid Hussain is one of the season security analysts of Pakistan. He can be a Top-notch advisor, it's always a treat to watch ' Past-present-Future ' national security dynamics of Pakistan through the lens of Zahid Hussian analysis!!!!!

  • @namansrivastav2008
    @namansrivastav2008 2 місяці тому +12

    Militancy policy failate failate Pakistan ka " Moye Moye " ho gaya 😂😂😂

    • @Modi-oy1gl
      @Modi-oy1gl 2 місяці тому

      1947 Pakistan
      2047 Khalistan Nagaland Kashmir Tamil

    • @namansrivastav2008
      @namansrivastav2008 2 місяці тому

      @@Modi-oy1gl tumhare khwab me .. dekhte raho

    • @shankhbhattacharya2937
      @shankhbhattacharya2937 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Modi-oy1gl 1971 Bangladesh
      1950 Balochistan, South Afghanistan,Shindustan, Khalistan 😂😂🎉 moye moye

    • @sarkerisahab3398
      @sarkerisahab3398 Місяць тому

      Manipur is located in Pakistan

    • @sarkerisahab3398
      @sarkerisahab3398 Місяць тому

      China occupied land part of Arunachal, Ladakh from Pakistan 😄😄

  • @naveedakhtar8747
    @naveedakhtar8747 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks Zahid Hussain sb.
    Regards

  • @pranaychathley
    @pranaychathley 27 днів тому

    You continue to discuss difficult topics and bring to fore a conversation that’s never been had before. Great Podcast bud. 👏🏽

  • @mmumtazalam
    @mmumtazalam 2 місяці тому +1

    Excellent program, Zahid Shaib personality is complete university of education specially for generalists

  • @mohammadadilsandhu22
    @mohammadadilsandhu22 2 місяці тому +2

    Zahid Saab ❤

  • @KKPR533
    @KKPR533 2 місяці тому +7

    Gazab ka stolkholm syndrome hai inn desi converts mein

    • @DonzaiNoHana
      @DonzaiNoHana 2 місяці тому

      Humara sabse ghatiya stock convert hua : Lalachi + Darpok

    • @KKPR533
      @KKPR533 2 місяці тому

      @@DonzaiNoHana correct

    • @KKPR533
      @KKPR533 2 місяці тому

      @@DonzaiNoHana hoor ka lalach aur qayamat ka darr🤣

    • @DonzaiNoHana
      @DonzaiNoHana 2 місяці тому

      @@KKPR533 Aur upper caste se chhid

  • @virendraprakashsingh3874
    @virendraprakashsingh3874 2 місяці тому +4

    I have never come across any Pakistani who is so bluntly accepting the role of ISI. These vlogs are the primary reason why Pakistan wants to control social media

  • @umeshnaidu
    @umeshnaidu 2 місяці тому +2

    Wonderful interview...Zahid Hussain is a store house of modern Pakistan history...such incisive observations...but this was a short podcast... Shahzad you have to call him 2-3 times minimum...how logically he is connecting various events of various decades... interesting stuff...keep it up...

  • @TajNawabKhattak-hs4dp
    @TajNawabKhattak-hs4dp 2 місяці тому +1

    Looking for more episode.My heartiest regards to Zahid Hussain(Mazdak While used to write in Dawn). and to hosts guests and viewers.

  • @shehzadsheikh573
    @shehzadsheikh573 21 день тому

    I know you very well since Herald Magazine from my childhood……what else u can do , you have done your job in excellent way …..but as we all know u can’t change the destiny of Pakistan.
    Thanks Zahid sb , stay safe and blessed

  • @amandeepsangha2308
    @amandeepsangha2308 2 місяці тому

    This was a great episode. I would request you to bring him back and have a much longer conversation. The best of this particular episode is that you let him talk without deflecting the core topic and giving him the freedom to take it wherever he wants to. Zahid Saab was brilliant and quick.

  • @HTKHAN14
    @HTKHAN14 2 місяці тому +2

    Very insightful discussion. ❤

  • @pkgty
    @pkgty Місяць тому

    I am amazed that Pakistan has such intelligent and serious people. At the same time I am shocked that such people are never part of the corridors of power.

  • @bopalkaravi
    @bopalkaravi 2 місяці тому

    My God.
    What a soft spoken person. So devoid of malice. So erudite. Yet so hard hitting. Almost a whistle blower.
    So Un-Pakistani.
    I viewed this twice. I may do so again.

  • @faryalyounus284
    @faryalyounus284 2 місяці тому +1

    I am fond of his columns in Dawn. Listening to him is enlightenment.

  • @fahadbutt179
    @fahadbutt179 2 місяці тому +1

    There is any book of this arthor in which all this history which he is telling in the podcast telling has been written if any pls tell me.

  • @siddiquemanzar7138
    @siddiquemanzar7138 Місяць тому

    We are were in NSF 1969 .1977 . While Dr Rashid Hassan Khan.
    Our best journalist and political analyst.

  • @endthestreamdave8023
    @endthestreamdave8023 Місяць тому

    Hussain saab's analysis is really revealing, well balanced, unbiased.

  • @Riccardocampagnieri
    @Riccardocampagnieri 2 місяці тому +4

    Comment at start of video:
    Indian, just starting to watch this video, Indian who has faced terror attacks that originated from Pakistan. Train and bus Bomb blasts all across the country. Ahmedabad reeled and people lost lives. Security forces in swift preventive action captured bombs in Surat. All across the city!! Saw 1999 hijack at the turn of the century, filled with extreme anger and hatred. Saw the Akshardham attack first hand. Angered to the core. Relatives faced the Mumbai terror. A gory reminder that we cannot trust Pakistan. Kargil cannot be forgotten. 26/11 took up the uniform to avenge the lack of action of India against terrorism. Parliament attacks an affront to democracy where elected representatives from all over India were holding court and parliament was in session.
    Just starting to watch. Let’s see what Shehzad’s guest says and what the host asks in questions.

    • @radhikanarayanan6064
      @radhikanarayanan6064 2 місяці тому

      You will find some Pakistanis that admit that they adopted a militancy policy. You will find zero pakis that demonstrate any shame for what they consistently did to India. If India had done one of those things the streets would have been flooded with protests. The will and character of our people is different.

  • @zaalarkhan544
    @zaalarkhan544 2 місяці тому

    Thumbs up for you and your esteemed guest ❤

  • @Dilli_da_Djinn
    @Dilli_da_Djinn 2 місяці тому +1

    Truly Explosive 🧨✨🌟 Please take Care 🇮🇳🇮🇳💖

  • @shehripk7588
    @shehripk7588 2 місяці тому +6

    Demicracy in Pakistan is helpless only due to lack of sincerity and presence of slefishness in power corrdor

  • @amoghdhodapkar1338
    @amoghdhodapkar1338 2 місяці тому +1

    Wow! This gentleman is refreshingly honest (8:47 to 17:57) I hope he is ok after saying all this! Very balanced and nuanced surmisation of the mess that Pakistan establishment has created for Masla-e-Kashmir. Need more people like in him in Pakistan. Great podcast and a good history lesson with regional geopolitics as well overall.

  • @najmussaharbangash6924
    @najmussaharbangash6924 2 місяці тому

    An excellent interview. thanks

  • @sayitall944
    @sayitall944 2 місяці тому

    What a gen of a journalist 👍👍👍 keep writing Sir
    Thank you

  • @manjeetkocchar2662
    @manjeetkocchar2662 Місяць тому

    Bhoot acha laga. Such objective brave people r also avl in Pakistan

  • @saleem-Malik
    @saleem-Malik 2 місяці тому

    بہت اچھا انٹرویو کیا ہے آپ نے۔ بہت شکریہ

  • @UsmanAli-db6yl
    @UsmanAli-db6yl 2 місяці тому

    Amazing pod cast, keep it up

  • @potatoebomb
    @potatoebomb 2 місяці тому +1

    Wait for the podcast seemed like eons.

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  2 місяці тому

      It is worth it, one of our best

    • @barrerashawaiz
      @barrerashawaiz 2 місяці тому

      Eon Podcast is sh*ttt. Shahzad I trust.

    • @potatoebomb
      @potatoebomb 2 місяці тому

      Dude, eon means a very long period of time. Where did eon podcast come from?

  • @munawarahmadmajoka3736
    @munawarahmadmajoka3736 17 днів тому

    Wonderful Zahid sahib. Of course you don’t need my compliments.

  • @HeavenRacer422
    @HeavenRacer422 2 місяці тому +2

    Partition was correct. But it would be better if population exchange happen properly. . India would be peaceful and developed. 14% of population. 1% in army. 2% contribution to economy. 30% in jails.

    • @DonzaiNoHana
      @DonzaiNoHana 2 місяці тому

      0percent Tax. 100percent subsidy, electricity theft, criminal records more than population share. This 14 percent is a burden we are carrying. This is dragging nation building otherwise we would have been developed by now if 95percent were Hindu

  • @haqawan7685
    @haqawan7685 2 місяці тому +1

    very informative

  • @skippper2345
    @skippper2345 2 місяці тому +4

    Watching from India...will purchase all three books he has written

  • @Anonymous-by2ov
    @Anonymous-by2ov 2 місяці тому

    Thanks TPE for producing another master piece.
    Huge fan of his writing but in today's podcast I feel that he have too much to talk about and almost on all topics of Pakistan.
    There should be a series with separate topics of each podcasts like Kashmir, Balochistan, Afghanistan, Politicians and Army etc.
    Waiting for next episode ☺️

  • @KingKing-bd4yb
    @KingKing-bd4yb 2 місяці тому

    Lucky This man still Alive to say all😊

  • @ESP5576
    @ESP5576 2 місяці тому +1

    Very impressive 👍👍

  • @muhammadayubminhas9844
    @muhammadayubminhas9844 2 місяці тому

    Allow the democratic political system to work is the solution for Pakistan.
    It was pleasure to watch Zahid Sahib.

  • @danishtahir
    @danishtahir 2 місяці тому

    Excellent. Your column is among the first things, I look in the daily Dawn. Excellent interview. May Almighty always bless you. 1 point sir. The incompetency of political elite creates the Power Gap that is naturally filled by the PPl with inherent power. The core problem is the incapacity of our political elite to take charge and Deliver ( My opinion only).

  • @saifuddin7187
    @saifuddin7187 Місяць тому

    Zahid Hussain sahib Haq baat krne pe apko Salam paish krte hy

  • @muhammadsaboor1142
    @muhammadsaboor1142 2 місяці тому

    Keep going, we deserve to know more

  • @user-pu2cq3mv4t
    @user-pu2cq3mv4t Місяць тому

    Why are captions auto-generated to Hindi . There is no other language available like english?

  • @nasirmustafa2492
    @nasirmustafa2492 2 місяці тому

    Renowned journalist, no doubt

  • @manojkumarmishra748
    @manojkumarmishra748 2 місяці тому +7

    Pakistan politicians always act as duffer, now the new PM have put kashmir & Palestine together merely to please local audience.

  • @ajayrawat-bf9pc
    @ajayrawat-bf9pc 2 місяці тому +1

    Kashmir from a political issue had morphed to a security issue and now to a terror issue. All result of policy of PA.

  • @ayushvinesh
    @ayushvinesh 19 днів тому

    Shehzad you are such a gem and beauty of your podcast is that i always learn something from your session i believe lot of young generations will learn and understand about our country l.

  • @dugyan
    @dugyan 2 місяці тому +3

    Zahid Hussain is a decent man without a doubt. However, the Pakistani state's embrace of extremist Islam is guided by an ideology that has its origins in the Two-Nation Theory which is basically a statement of Islam's superiority over Hinduism. The Pakistani state had to devote itself to Islamic expansionism--otherwise, it would have been contrary to its very raison d'être. Even the theory of American money fueling Islamic extremism is a flawed one; Pakistan became a member of SEATO, CENTO, and other alliances to have access to American money and materiel but its focus never wavered from the prize, which was the defeat of the land of kufr--India and ultimately the global victory of Islam. Whatever else may be the shortcomings of the Pakistani elite and state--and there are many, to be sure--they have never been deficient in world-dominating ambition.

    • @vinsin328
      @vinsin328 2 місяці тому

      In pre-independence British India, Muslims leagues had Muslim Guards promoting that.

  • @geetaprabhakar4261
    @geetaprabhakar4261 2 місяці тому +1

    What l like the most about your podcast is that you avoid any kind of rhetoric or jingoism and see every situation as a neutral observer.Ypur humour is what makes you special and unique.Looking smart in your sweat shirt 👍👍👍👍Package ban gye ho yaar because looks per bhee focus ker rehe ho and handsome lag rehe ho 👍👍Don't mind my saying so ❤

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  2 місяці тому +1

      ❤️

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  2 місяці тому +4

      Handsome hee hoon, behtar lighting mai nazar ata hay ye bus ❤️

    • @geetaprabhakar4261
      @geetaprabhakar4261 2 місяці тому +2

      @@ThePakistanExperience Kya baat hai 💞💞Aise hee chamakte reho 💞💞

    • @geetaprabhakar4261
      @geetaprabhakar4261 2 місяці тому

      @@ThePakistanExperience Shezaad ,Neel gagan ki chaon mein ,dekhna kabhi .From movie Amarpali, 1966 vintage ,You will enjoy the bhartnatyam by Vajyantimala who recently performed at the age of 90 😊😊💝💝

  • @n2201
    @n2201 2 місяці тому

    This type of self critical perspective is going to help improve Pakistan. it's not going to change fast it's going to take long time!

  • @parikshetprabhakar8157
    @parikshetprabhakar8157 2 місяці тому +4

    Though, I like your podcast. But you mentioned kashmir in thumbnail and there is no "label" for kashmir in the whole video sequence label is disappointing.

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  2 місяці тому

      Video sequence?

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  2 місяці тому +1

      8:30 Wala chapter dekho

    • @Arkham-kq9uf
      @Arkham-kq9uf 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@ThePakistanExperiencekyu be mote? Dusro ke comments delete karte huye sharm nahi aati?

    • @SaiyyarSwati
      @SaiyyarSwati 2 місяці тому

      Na pyare dost​@@Arkham-kq9uf, kisi ka dil dukhana paap ha, aisa na kaho

    • @Arkham-kq9uf
      @Arkham-kq9uf 2 місяці тому

      @@SaiyyarSwati ye mota hai, ise mota nahi to kya kahi

  • @user-wd2fw3io1q
    @user-wd2fw3io1q 2 місяці тому

    Excellent analysis by Mohtaram Zahid Hussain Sahib.When we expect Politicians to run the state of affairs of the country, it should also be realized that most of
    the politicians are self
    proclaimed.None of them ever studied Political science as a subject.There should be an academy having learned professors and people interested in running for elections or forming a political party should be trained here.

  • @ndacadet1
    @ndacadet1 2 місяці тому

    1:00:58 .
    Should have edited out the part. Who knows who will get offended , and what repercussions ....

  • @srinivas915
    @srinivas915 28 днів тому

    This is the new Pakistan private think tank and all wishes for your channel and hardwork ahead. Hope whole Pakistan change from now with this facts and learnings

  • @qamroshsajjad
    @qamroshsajjad 2 місяці тому +1

    wao wao wao
    What Asma Jahangir said about them, Zahid Hussain proves it.
    They were duffer, they are duffer and they will remain duffer.
    Even this podcast can be titled as, ''The History of Dufferness of Generals in Pakistan".
    Dear god, please save the 22 million people.

  • @zaeemjaved6850
    @zaeemjaved6850 2 місяці тому +1

    Best podcast of you to this day where you were completely neutral rather then cutting guest every time with your opinions.

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  2 місяці тому

      Why listen to my podcast if you don’t want to hear my opinions?

    • @sourabhpurohit1946
      @sourabhpurohit1946 2 місяці тому

      @@ThePakistanExperiencepeople come to listen your guests not to you

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  2 місяці тому

      They can listen to the guests anywhere else, internet bohat bara hay, mujhay nahee suna toh meri podcast na suno bhai

    • @sourabhpurohit1946
      @sourabhpurohit1946 2 місяці тому

      @@ThePakistanExperience ok nahin sunenge ab

    • @zaeemjaved6850
      @zaeemjaved6850 2 місяці тому

      @@ThePakistanExperience I find your guests to be interesting however I don't like your opinions but those guests are the quality.
      Answering your "Kahi or guests dekho":
      Sure, I see a variety of podcasts & I hardly know anyone's guests. I only get to know them once they're on youtube.

  • @basirahmad9970
    @basirahmad9970 2 місяці тому

    ye aaj kal hum jo sachaiyya sun rahy hai pakistan k bare mai, es ka matlab hai k ye shoro se ghand raha hai. jitna hoshyar hum apny aap ko samaj rahy ti, utna hi ghand phelaya howa hai.
    kitna hi acha hota, k shoro say sare sache musalman hoty ao apni deein aor tareeqy ko focus kr k aagy barhgty.

  • @krishnaswamy2773
    @krishnaswamy2773 Місяць тому

    I think this is one of the finest repertoire on the current pak.polity..very aptly put

  • @AbhishekMishra-vx3dw
    @AbhishekMishra-vx3dw 2 місяці тому

    Atal bihari poem that time....dushro ke ghar aag lagane sapana sada apne hi ghar kharab hota hai..that line fit on you

  • @ssiddarth
    @ssiddarth Місяць тому

    Great one 👌

  • @effendi77
    @effendi77 2 місяці тому +5

    Zahid Hussain in a nutshell = Zia Bad, Musharraf Good!
    Zahid Hussain has his urdu-speaker loyalties for Musharraf.

  • @gerarddsouza2178
    @gerarddsouza2178 2 місяці тому

    gerarddsouza2178
    24 minutes ago
    Shezad. You are doing a great job with your podcast and your guest and you are very intelligent and your content is enlightening. I only listen to you ,Moroo and the two Muzammils. I wish there were more podcasters in India willing to tackle subjects that matter to Indians