The Trials of Meetra Surik (As Instructed by Kreia)

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  • Опубліковано 23 лют 2021
  • “To know, to will, to dare, to keep silent.”
    - Éliphas Lévi
    Music used:
    The Death of Yoda by John Williams
    • The Death of Yoda
    Yoda and the Younglings by John Williams
    • Yoda and the Younglings
    The Immolation Scene by John Williams
    • The Immolation Scene
    Anakin's Dark Deeds by John Williams
    • Anakin's Dark Deeds
    The Battle of Endor III by John Williams
    • The Battle of Endor III
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  • @jjedits488
    @jjedits488  3 роки тому +355

    I know that Meetra's hair is inconsistent. Some artists draw her as a blonde and some draw her as a brunette. Sorry for any confusion.
    Anyway, this will likely be my final Kreia video, but likely not the last Star Wars video.

    • @-misterjustaguy-
      @-misterjustaguy- 3 роки тому +23

      As amazing as the others. Sad to see Kreia go but I figured the recorded lines would run out eventually. I showed these to my roommate who doesn’t really even like Star Wars and now she wants to play through both kotor games.
      Seriously cool stuff, can’t wait to see what else you have in store.

    • @chocochipjewel
      @chocochipjewel 3 роки тому +3

      These videos are amazing, looking forward to what you do next!

    • @TheSamweird
      @TheSamweird 3 роки тому +4

      Kreia videos r the best

    • @attilafekete7892
      @attilafekete7892 3 роки тому +3

      Well yeah, it is so inconsistent. In the Revan novel it is brown but in Swtor it is blonde. And the canonical playermodel has blonde hair too. So it is either a retcon or she just Dyed it.

    • @chocochipjewel
      @chocochipjewel 3 роки тому +3

      @@attilafekete7892 Personally, I think it was brown but Meetra dyed it blond

  • @namelessking4146
    @namelessking4146 3 роки тому +777

    Kotor and Kotor 2 should be played by every writer at Disney to learn good story-telling. These games are too great not to experience.

    • @NoksUndKutten
      @NoksUndKutten 3 роки тому +41

      Wouldnt agree with Kotor 1, like just look at Malak, he could be a sunday cartoon villain how obnoxiously "eViL" he tries to be

    • @froginatophat1042
      @froginatophat1042 3 роки тому +55

      @@NoksUndKutten it was still a pretty good story though. Despite the slight black and white moral area the writing was still amazing.

    • @99bulldog
      @99bulldog 3 роки тому +29

      @@froginatophat1042 It was a good vs evil story or one evil replaces another if you played that way. The only thing that was really memorable about the story was the big revel of who your character was. But Kotor 2's story was so intriguing. It drew me in and it was one of the few rpgs that made me want to keep playing if for no other reason than the story.

    • @rustyshackleford6874
      @rustyshackleford6874 3 роки тому +20

      @@NoksUndKutten I'd agree with you if it wasn't Star Wars lmao. Over the top evil and heros rising to stop them is a really core concept of SW. Malak was no more ridiculous with his evil than Palpatine cackling away like a glorious madman, just more of a blunt instrument of destruction.
      To me, KOTOR 1 is much better at capturing that classic SW adventure experience and feel of the universe and is just paced really well. KOTOR 2 is much more interesting philosophically and in its concepts and has a totally different atmosphere of just utter bleakness and brokenness. I love them both equally in different ways. Despite basically being the same game mechanically they're very different.

    • @Yoruyo.
      @Yoruyo. 3 роки тому +15

      @@NoksUndKutten That was the intention - the true villain was Saul Karath, the Rebublic defector, who showed absolutely no pity or remorse for his actions. He wasn't stupid evil like Malak, he knew EXACTLY what he was doing, and why.
      To add to this, Malak was also intended to come across as stupid evil because of the chip on his shoulder - Revan always having been greater than him in every way, even before and during the Mandalorian wars.
      I think it provides a perfect contrast for the story. If you follow the dark side, you once again crush him like you did before and definitively prove that you are the true dark lord, a conquerer of the Galaxy, not simply its destroyer. And if you follow the light side, you prove EVERYONE wrong - that you did not succumb to everyone's premonitions of "Revan the evil dark lord" and again, show that Malak (who makes mistake after mistake after mistake) was always woefully out of his depth.
      Sorry for the long post, I just really love these two games!

  • @wozzow00
    @wozzow00 3 роки тому +616

    Kreia, to me, is the greatest character in all of Star Wars. She is literally the only one who learned the truth about the force, that as long as it exists, the war between the light and the dark will never end and countless lives will continue to be lost until all life is consumed by it. She fought to try and break the cycle and very nearly succeeded with the exile. Her only mistake was giving the exile her life before her work could be completed. She says that nothing is impossible with the force, but I think she would also agree that anything is possible without it. Rest in peace Kreia, your teachings are not forgotten.

    • @_Offensivebias_
      @_Offensivebias_ 3 роки тому +4

      ....

    • @atruenobody6189
      @atruenobody6189 3 роки тому +46

      To me she is the most tragic character. While she questioned the ways of the Jedi and then the ways of the Sith, she was never able to stop for a moment and questioning herself. She was so much focused on the outside, that she was incapable of looking inside herself. Thus she failed to escape the one teaching, every Sith and every Jedi hear and most of them believe in: that the force has a will and that there is a light and a dark side, which it wants to stay in balance. No one ever brought evidence to that theory, yet many in both orders justify their actions with it, saying that their way of understanding the force is th right one. It is not the force, which creates the conflicts, but the idelogies of Sith and Jedi. That is why nothing would have changed, if she would have been succesfull in killing the force.
      It may have even gotten worse. For the force being the center of the ideologies in both orders, it restricted who could join them and so their numbers were always rather small, i guess somewhat like some ten thousands on both side, against trillions or more of non-force users. Without the force there ideologies would concentrate on other aspects of there teachings like extreme individualism of the Sith against extreme self-sacrificing of the Jedi. Both would reach out to many ears and so there numbers would increase in a critical way, making the following wars even more catastrophic than those we already have seen. And because ideologies can not die, the conflict would continue as long as both sides are willing to sacrifice lifes instead of accepting, that they both are partially right and wrong and that they understood only so little. This realization alone could bring an end, causing them to discussing their viewpoints, instead of fighting over it.

    • @savageaeternum6047
      @savageaeternum6047 3 роки тому +3

      @@atruenobody6189 i totally agree with you

    • @jannecorn3267
      @jannecorn3267 3 роки тому +7

      @@atruenobody6189 I'm not sure if there's proof of the Force having a will but there are definitely indications of it with the history repeating itself, and it for sure is an existing supernatural force in Star Wars. Wouldn't you think that by stripping the Force from everyone the Jedi and Sith would (die or) become mundane ideologies without the power to enforce their will on people without this innate "gift" of the Force? Sure, the Jedi and the Sith are much more interesting than the Force by itself but I don't see how they could more than disgraced religions without it.
      Also, your solution requires people relating to people who disagree with them, so that's by far more unrealistic than anything Kreia was aiming for :p

    • @xelnagavoid8195
      @xelnagavoid8195 3 роки тому +4

      The war bewteen light and dark exists in our universe and we don’t have the force. Destroying the force definitely wouldn’t stop war itself but maybe it could help?

  • @strangeonexd4776
    @strangeonexd4776 3 роки тому +180

    The bitter emotion in the simple phrase; “I hate the Force.” Is powerful.

    • @Jwine95
      @Jwine95 Місяць тому

      Sara Kesleman done such a good job with the character, like she was fit for the role

    • @HittokiriBattousai17
      @HittokiriBattousai17 Місяць тому

      @@Jwine95 Best voice acting in history

  • @BenAri18
    @BenAri18 3 роки тому +109

    These Old Republic era Recordings are 1000x more enjoyable and entertaining than the sequel trilogy

  • @darthumbradius14
    @darthumbradius14 3 роки тому +82

    I love how the Exile's final test is practically the test of the Sith Rule of Two: the apprentice must kill the master "you are not a Jedi, not truly, and it is for that that I love you."

  • @twopherald
    @twopherald 3 роки тому +106

    you are beautiful to me exile" her voice acting is so genuine

    • @dzikripratama3776
      @dzikripratama3776 2 роки тому +5

      Its like a love letter

    • @Jwine95
      @Jwine95 Місяць тому +3

      Sara Kesleman was perfect for this role. She brough life to the character 100%

  • @Nathan_lee
    @Nathan_lee 3 роки тому +101

    Just remember ... Kreia did everything for you .... because she loved you

  • @fenneclord9581
    @fenneclord9581 2 роки тому +26

    Plot twist.
    We are living in the galaxy where kreia managed to deafen the force

  • @AA-jp9cj
    @AA-jp9cj 3 роки тому +268

    Kreia learned all that there is to learn of the Jedi and realized their ways were deeply flawed, as a Sith she did the same only to realize the same. Only when her connection to the Force was severed did she truly see. She saw the Force for what it truly was. She saw how everything was determined and everyone in the Galaxy were mere slaves to the Will of the Force... If Kreia would have succeeded the Force would be crippled and the galaxy would have been free. With her death the cycle continued and galaxy continued to suffer as the battle between light and dark went on...

    • @mariuszsobolewski9839
      @mariuszsobolewski9839 3 роки тому +29

      Kreia the first force nihilist. She was the first jedi who feel hatred towards the siths and jedi for their arrogance and naivness. She was the first who was deeply shocked that something as "good" as the force could control you. In this case force is equal to the fate, and for some - it means that there is no free will. How something like force can entact thousands of years of suffering, becouse 2 orders took a war - and the galaxy bruned. Is is not mercy. It is no higher will. It is a joke. A lie. And without force - galaxy could be finally free.

    • @AA-jp9cj
      @AA-jp9cj 3 роки тому +2

      @@mariuszsobolewski9839 which never came to be...

    • @marcc1830
      @marcc1830 3 роки тому +17

      @@AA-jp9cj Considering the SW story happens in Long Ago and Far Away, and that none of us is Force Sensitive, maybe someone down the road rediscovers Kreia's wisdom and did the "right" thing after all :p

    • @AA-jp9cj
      @AA-jp9cj 3 роки тому +2

      @@marcc1830 :O

    • @KhukuriGod
      @KhukuriGod 3 роки тому +4

      One thing I've never understood is how could the Exile lead to the death of the Force? Yes, she was a Wound in the Force. But would killing her really kill the Force? Or does she have to be killed in a very specific manner i.e. in Malachor V where she, the planet itself, and Darth Nihilus all ended up becoming Wounds? Does that shared connection somehow factor in? Because she did end up dying in that disappointing Revan novel, but the Force is still well and alive. What am I missing?

  • @Nihoolious
    @Nihoolious 3 роки тому +290

    Excellent choice of music for each scene!
    Kreia is the only character in Star Wars I think came the closest to fully understanding the universe she lived in. It borders on a 4th wall break at times. Seems somewhat fitting that the one person who really "got it" was killed and essentially forgotten afterwards in galactic history. The force willed it so. And her lessons were never truly learned.
    Out of universe she got the credit and respect she deserved. If anything the appreciation for her character has only strengthened over time. No thanks to videos like yours.

    • @AA-jp9cj
      @AA-jp9cj 3 роки тому +32

      I think you meant thanks to vids like yours

    • @willek1335
      @willek1335 3 роки тому +36

      @@AA-jp9cj alternatively, "in no small part to videos like yours."

  • @joshuathaggard5534
    @joshuathaggard5534 3 роки тому +132

    We all need someone like kreia in our lives

    • @TerminatorGundam300
      @TerminatorGundam300 6 місяців тому

      As she said herself, she’s but a mirror meant to show you what you’re own eyes cannot

  • @Rewwgh
    @Rewwgh 3 роки тому +38

    All of these Kreia videos in my recommendations can only mean one thing - I am being called to play KOTOR1 & 2 once more again. And I must answer its call!

    • @jjedits488
      @jjedits488  3 роки тому +5

      It is your destiny...

    • @varenshan7731
      @varenshan7731 2 роки тому

      I can hear my masters call. The time to return to Lord Revan has come.

    • @danielread4490
      @danielread4490 2 роки тому

      I have begun my journey as well

  • @Explainmerandom
    @Explainmerandom 2 роки тому +38

    Kotor one was one of the best twists I've ever seen pulled off.
    Kotor2 is so subtle, that thinking hard enough, and searching for things, leads to unexpected answers.
    Such as Kreias teachings on creating a ripple in the force (kind of a lesson on the most efficient path, rather than the right path, or an emotionally driven one).
    As a writer these games are rich in the lessons they teach, pretty cool

  • @Senor_Penor
    @Senor_Penor 3 роки тому +41

    Kreia will forever be my favorite star wars character ever, she influenced me in a lot of ways and i still think about some of her lessons. Had no regrets repurchasing the game on steam again after all these years.

    • @varenshan7731
      @varenshan7731 2 роки тому

      What influence did she impart to you?

    • @ryukaganzeroful
      @ryukaganzeroful 2 роки тому +5

      @@varenshan7731 not the guy you replied to but, for me it was that good and bad are concepts that often are used as a justification to someone elses beliefs. For many, nuance doesn't exist. black and white. red and blue. but, that is not the true nature of the world. i've known thieves that would, and have (in essence), given me the shirt off of their backs. i've known people that i thought of as saints, only to find out they are...less than admirable. she influenced my way of thinking, in that I try my best to not take someone at face value.

    • @varenshan7731
      @varenshan7731 2 роки тому +2

      @@ryukaganzeroful just as there cant be light without darkness, so there cant be good without evil. All are two sides of the same coin.
      But there are many shades and many contradictions of each in each facet.

  • @MJSpiritual
    @MJSpiritual 2 роки тому +10

    As long as the Force exists, the galaxy is doomed. And yet, to destroy the Force is to destroy all life in the galaxy. It's almost seems like the Force installed the ultimate fail safe option in case someone like Kreia got too close.

  • @BenAri18
    @BenAri18 3 роки тому +37

    Man prequel music added with these badass recording makes it 100X better

  • @ttkrystal8329
    @ttkrystal8329 2 роки тому +23

    KOTOR II gives me chills every time I go back. Such a masterpiece.

  • @TheCynic
    @TheCynic 3 роки тому +57

    really nice video. Kreia's script is absolutely brilliant, the delivery as well. Im glad ppl are still paying attention to this game as much as i do

  • @jimokane9891
    @jimokane9891 2 роки тому +10

    Meetra Surik deserved better than the death she received. Together she and Revan should have been the ones to destroy the Sith Emperor Vitiate.

    • @dodywidodo9433
      @dodywidodo9433 2 роки тому +1

      Agreed. Any novels about revan after kotor are non canon for me.

    • @onyxrose4349
      @onyxrose4349 2 роки тому +3

      I'd settle for her not being treated like an amateur or worthless compared to "the great almighty Revan!"

  • @tomatoglider
    @tomatoglider 3 роки тому +43

    From my gameplay she is like a mother to Meetra

  • @djkaoken2002
    @djkaoken2002 2 роки тому +11

    Damn that story telling with the music is better then any movie Disney has put at so far.

  • @Coolguy-tr1ot
    @Coolguy-tr1ot 2 роки тому +6

    KoTOR and KoTOR II timeline takes place 4,000 years ago before the skywalker saga. This is great Star Wars Story telling.

    • @sethrohitheflo
      @sethrohitheflo 3 місяці тому +1

      Of course!
      It was made when George Lucas still owned Star Wars after all!

  • @eren34558
    @eren34558 2 роки тому +14

    krei's story has better writing than the entire star wars Sequel

    • @Shou_22
      @Shou_22 2 роки тому +2

      Any story in this era is better than the sequels... But yes KOTOR 2 has one the best...

    • @budakbaongsiah
      @budakbaongsiah 2 роки тому

      That's a low bar...

    • @hannibalbarca7902
      @hannibalbarca7902 2 роки тому +5

      KOTOR 2 has a better story than the original trilogy. There I said it.

    • @Daviyah_yisrael
      @Daviyah_yisrael Рік тому

      @@hannibalbarca7902 sadly I think your right

    • @hannibalbarca7902
      @hannibalbarca7902 Рік тому +2

      @cod That's not even a controversial statement, I think everyone agrees with that.

  • @BenAri18
    @BenAri18 3 роки тому +23

    Lol you know you a hardcore star wars fan when you watch these audio vids

    • @eren34558
      @eren34558 2 роки тому

      i'm not....I just love a well-written female character

    • @nestorarcilaosorio2457
      @nestorarcilaosorio2457 2 роки тому +1

      @@eren34558 Is not just a well-written female character, is one of the best characters from all star wars, the best in my opinion above everyone else.

  • @Code_Machine
    @Code_Machine 2 роки тому +4

    Kreia is my personal favourite character in all of Star Wars

  • @JudgeSpektre
    @JudgeSpektre 3 роки тому +10

    I just downloaded the Android mobile port for this game with the restored content DLC. I'm looking forward to hearing any missing dialogue from her.
    she really puts both the force and the Jedi on blast in this game. I can't remember another piece of Star wars media that even came close to doing that as well as her.

  • @GrandMasterNutBusterYoda
    @GrandMasterNutBusterYoda 2 роки тому +6

    We will never have a character as great as Kreia.

  • @NARNIUS555
    @NARNIUS555 3 роки тому +11

    Thank youu soo much for making and uploading this masterpiece!! 🖤Seriously it means a lot because since I was a little kid my favourite Star Wars character was and still is Meetra Surik (The exile) buuut sadly not too many people knows about her and who does normally push her importance to the side because for some reason always Revan gets the main attention...

  • @KarateWrestler205
    @KarateWrestler205 2 роки тому +2

    Listening to kreia speak is absolute Beauty with words

  • @SB-zb7sf
    @SB-zb7sf Рік тому +1

    3:34 - 4:19 such a gut punch of a lecture paired like this with the music in the background.
    Honestly, nowadays its the old republic and the KOTOR games keeping me interested in Star Wars.

  • @ReveredDead
    @ReveredDead 2 роки тому +6

    Disney: We want to add strong and independent women to the Star Wars universe.
    EU: We have Meetra Surik, Bastilla and Satele.
    Disney: NO! Not that kind of strong and independent women.

    • @Shou_22
      @Shou_22 2 роки тому +4

      SW fans: Then you are a fool. Blinded by the illusion of power you believe you have and by the power that was never yours. All we have for you now is apathy. And apathy means death.

  • @scartissue9385
    @scartissue9385 Рік тому +3

    You are an artist. This is beautiful.

  • @Heyitdave
    @Heyitdave Рік тому +1

    brilliantly edited. thank you for creating this content!

  • @Razix365
    @Razix365 3 роки тому +6

    Beautifly edited, the pictures, the music, everything perfectly fits with Kreia's speech.

  • @darthxertor3617
    @darthxertor3617 2 роки тому +3

    Amazing work on these mashups man! Keep up the good work, really enjoyable to watch!

  • @MrGrim-ib4ix
    @MrGrim-ib4ix 3 роки тому +1

    Absolutely excellent. Make more of these.

  • @weardo2
    @weardo2 3 роки тому +3

    Okay these videos you’ve made deserve more credit. Great stuff, great edits. Thank you for this.

  • @James-sr9vr
    @James-sr9vr 2 роки тому +4

    Kreia is so manipulative she good at talking and showing.

  • @ryanjarnagin9696
    @ryanjarnagin9696 9 місяців тому +1

    Meetra Surik totally got it on with The Disciple.

  • @ElemXCR
    @ElemXCR 3 роки тому +11

    I was so sad to learn the fate of the exile. I was like.. maybe we'll find out the nice legacy of the exile in SWTOR. Only the find out that she was betrayed.
    Bruh... :(
    By some fuck who is forced to become our companion.

    • @rafaelfarias4359
      @rafaelfarias4359 3 роки тому +15

      Swotor pretty much bulldozed all the lore about Exile and Revan.

  • @TheSamweird
    @TheSamweird 3 роки тому +4

    I am currently replaying KOTOR 2 and I have came across most of these quotes you have used in this video, but it is so much better with the music you chose and the imagery, well done :)

  • @christopherhaas1238
    @christopherhaas1238 3 роки тому +2

    Just wanted to thank you for making this. Absolutely amazing edit and deserving of more views and subs, keep it up!

  • @jigawatt1.215
    @jigawatt1.215 2 роки тому +1

    This is extremely well done.

  • @armaniwebb4467
    @armaniwebb4467 3 роки тому +26

    Damn i wish kreia could have seen or known Vader. He was the one she has been searching for, the HERO WITH NO FEAR, THE CHOSEN ONE. What would she think as he fought in clone wars, as the jedi mistrusted him, as he traveled to mortis, as he became a sith, as he destroyed the jedi, destroyed the sith, as fought the force itself.
    I wonder what she would have thought.

    • @Specoups
      @Specoups 2 роки тому +2

      Maybe she would have saved him as Anakin, before the jedi and sith could further destroy him, before they made him... Vader.

    • @armaniwebb4467
      @armaniwebb4467 2 роки тому +8

      @@Specoups naw she would have guided him to destroy both and would have been so happy he killed the gods of mortis

    • @Specoups
      @Specoups 2 роки тому +1

      @@armaniwebb4467 I don't see how this is exclusive.

    • @armaniwebb4467
      @armaniwebb4467 2 роки тому

      @@Specoups ?

    • @luckysage4240
      @luckysage4240 2 роки тому

      she would have done what the jedi couldnt. she would have saved him

  • @tootsie40
    @tootsie40 2 роки тому +7

    Kreia is an Albert Camus in a world of Nihilists, existentialists and religious dogmas.
    An out and out absurdist that laughs at the force and yet like a drug addict has to use it to exert control.
    It would have been amazing had Kreia committed suicide rather than forcing the exile/meetra suriks hand.
    But nevertheless, a billiantly written game that i played first in my late teens and then led me to explore and read non fiction in a way that I had never been able to get into or comprehend before.
    Absolutely love how remarkable a good story can be even after years. No wonder the ancients wrote so many great epics in so many different cultures.

  • @RockingRebelYell
    @RockingRebelYell 3 роки тому +1

    Love this video so much thank you

  • @standoutsteel023
    @standoutsteel023 2 місяці тому

    spectacular

  • @FrogmanLeaps
    @FrogmanLeaps 3 роки тому

    Awesome work man

  • @Pand3miCSK
    @Pand3miCSK 2 роки тому +1

    Now we need a movie of this

  • @emanueltwr
    @emanueltwr 3 роки тому

    Amazing Video!

  • @dessamator1420
    @dessamator1420 3 роки тому

    I love ur KOTOR content so far!!!!

  • @DraculaCronqvist
    @DraculaCronqvist 3 роки тому +24

    Kreia fought not only The Force, to destroy and save the Galaxy from itself, she also tried to fought the Meta-narrative to Star Wars - a stereotypical good vs evil story that allows for no nuance, since the Force mandates such simple-minded rules. It's quite insidious how Lucas constructed this universe, really.

    • @DarsiPadilla
      @DarsiPadilla Рік тому

      It's almost like a duel of the fates, ...literally.

  • @sandwhich14
    @sandwhich14 2 роки тому +3

    2:50 you were my brother Anakin, I loved you 😭

  • @sclark615
    @sclark615 2 роки тому +3

    There is so much depth and meaning to be learned here. I always thought that the dichotomy of the Jedi and Sith was a very interesting correlation with our real world. I didn't like KOTOR II as much as the original but great story telling with so much nuance that builds upon the original Canon story.

  • @grom4818
    @grom4818 3 роки тому

    I'm ready.

  • @sophiecarter2363
    @sophiecarter2363 3 роки тому +22

    I sometimes wonder if Kreia found Revan again what would happen?

    • @Shou_22
      @Shou_22 2 роки тому

      If it were me... I bet they would fight... Revan might consider her a threat to the force... But still respects his old master... He would probably lower himself to her first and point his lightsaber at her after...

  • @gabrieldeoliveira5277
    @gabrieldeoliveira5277 Рік тому +1

    Seeing this made me wish more for a kotor lll, not the mmo that retcons almost everything but a true kotor lll

  • @Ghost-cd7tx
    @Ghost-cd7tx 2 роки тому +3

    4:56 Abeloth

  • @theviking6052
    @theviking6052 2 роки тому

    Although I hated the ads on this video. But the actual video was awesome

  • @damendouglaschristophermac5523

    OK Nice-!

  • @Ben-Ken
    @Ben-Ken 3 роки тому +8

    Even if she succeeded in destroying the force, sentient beings would still wage intergalactic wars and commit genocide and enslavement. If not the force, then ego will compel us.

    • @jjedits488
      @jjedits488  3 роки тому +10

      I agree. Kreia has some of the best understanding of the Force, but is extremely nihilistic (get it?) due to her past trauma. She’s correct in that the Force can create chaos, but ignores the many benefits. It’s not good or evil, it’s nature. It’s like blowing up an apartment building, just because some or most of the inhabitants are bad people.
      I suppose the benefit of Kreia’s philosophy is that it’s nuanced, by being biased and even flawed.

    • @Ben-Ken
      @Ben-Ken 3 роки тому +4

      @@jjedits488 nihilistic. LOL. Kreia is definitely well written. I can imagine her being played by someone like Dame Diana Rigg, Olenna Tyrell of Game of Thrones.
      The only way to stop most conflict is to banish ego and greed, but without those things, what would be the impetus for a society to advance in technology and self defense in case of invasion by an outside aggressor such as the Vong.

    • @mdd4296
      @mdd4296 2 роки тому +5

      She doesnt give a damn when those conflicts stay within sentient beings. "I would kill the galaxy to preserve you"- to Exile. It's the Force's sway over conflicts and sentient life that she hate. And it's pure hate, Kreia didnt justify her action with any greater good. The "... when countless lives are lost" line show you the extent of the Force's influence, not her sentiment over loss of lives. And at the end it's all about "... and that is what pleases me"
      The value of Kreia philosophy is an interesting question. I would say it's misused rather than being inherently right or wrong. She vehemently attack the man-made philosophical base of the world until she rage against the natural world itself. So it went from something that could be beneficial into something hateful and destructive. Not like this hasnt happened before... Which is ironic, considering the usual subject of her criticism: the rigid adherence to a single belief among jedi and sith.

    • @Specoups
      @Specoups 2 роки тому +1

      @Alex_006 Plenty of successful lifeforms live without loving, and they will very probably survive us all.
      The point of life in this universe, life as we know it right now and its patterns, is just to stall and reverse the process of entropy.
      Why, you may ask. Well I have no idea.
      Well, it's a common trait shared by anything living we know. Not a single entity on this planet strives for entropy.

    • @anastasiab9506
      @anastasiab9506 2 роки тому +1

      True. But no one, even in their most fascist and egoistical views, would be able to eat a life off of a whole planet like Tenebrae did. One such strong user, and ALL of life in the galaxy faces extinction, while regular wars are wasteful and tragic.. they do not threaten a total annihilation.

  • @TFC.C
    @TFC.C 11 днів тому

    The way she ended it

  • @_Offensivebias_
    @_Offensivebias_ 3 роки тому +1

    *sips tea*

  • @dougdimmedome5552
    @dougdimmedome5552 2 роки тому

    God I know my wish will never come true but we need a show on the Mandalorian wars and the Jedi civil war. Like a Game of Thrones for star wars, with a conclusion that leaves the same questions Kreia leaves us with at the end of kotor 2.

  • @goldenfrieza1381
    @goldenfrieza1381 3 роки тому +1

    I personally think that the Sith and the Jedi are the problem rather than the Force. I even have a theory that it made the events of the prequel happen just so they both would die and the conflict would, the fact that Yoda destroyed what remained of the Jedi made that more believable for me

    • @strangeonexd4776
      @strangeonexd4776 3 роки тому

      But The Force creates these beings and manipulates them. Kreia understands that Sith or Jedi, the Force dances them like puppets on a string in order to achieve some unknown goal. It’s horrific, and Kreia understands the horror of The Force. Enough to care not for the ways of the Sith or Jedi, but to strike at the true heart of the evil in the Star Wars galaxy.

  • @LinV24
    @LinV24 3 роки тому +4

    I wish kotor 1 and 2 would be remade with gameplay like skyrim and lightsaber fighting like fallen order, same maps and assets just remastered and upscaled, same music and voices, some new alien voices to diversify them, that would be so awesome I would play it until I shit myself and died.

    • @tezz2698
      @tezz2698 3 роки тому

      Please no. Kotor is an rpg and any remake should stick to that.

    • @LinV24
      @LinV24 3 роки тому +1

      @@tezz2698 it can still be a true rpg just with good gameplay, skyrim and fallout new vegas are good rpgs, just fun to play, in 3rd or 1st person. Idk why some people can't see how good what im talking about could be, it can still be a numbers game with all the rpg elements. Just with fun open world gameplay.

    • @tezz2698
      @tezz2698 3 роки тому +3

      @@LinV24 because in a "true" rpg, your characters combat abilities are dependent on the characters skills, not your own. That's what separates regular rpgs from action-rpgs. I don't want an arpg Kotor.

  • @pharaohbubbles1547
    @pharaohbubbles1547 2 роки тому

    Kreia is my 2nd favorite Star Wars character

  • @yaketytak4427
    @yaketytak4427 2 роки тому +4

    I love Kreia and her goals actually make sense, what freedom to we truly have if we bend to the will of the force. But the one thing that weirded me out is when she said the apprentice must kill the master. Doesn’t that negate her stance? That’s more of a site teaching so idk why she would wan that.

    • @mdd4296
      @mdd4296 Рік тому +2

      It's not a Sith teaching, you need to look at the whole quote and the context "The apparentice must kill the master. If you do not, I shall kill you. If I do not then all you have achieved would have been as nothing, as empty and violent as Malachor itself".
      All of this happened about 2000 year before Bane was even born. This is not a rule Kreia want to establish, she just described what she wanted. Keep in mind her intention was never to ensure the survival of the Sith, but for the Exile, a Jedi who is the living proof of her teaching to defeat and bury her Triumvirate.
      So she will force the Exile's hand by directly threatening her life. And if the Exile refuse then all that the Exile has done so far would be meaningless for she will kill the Force afterwards.

  • @Ravenforce3
    @Ravenforce3 2 роки тому

    Until the moment after I clicked on this video I had forgotten the Exile had a "canon" name.

  • @gamepad3173
    @gamepad3173 Рік тому

    Little did Kreia know that the Republic just 4,000 years later would die. and reshaped into the Galactic Empire under a Sith Lord known as Darth Sidious.

  • @justsomeguywhokeepsgetting4885
    @justsomeguywhokeepsgetting4885 3 роки тому +1

    Meetra Surik >>>>>

  • @hmk7787
    @hmk7787 8 місяців тому

    Anakin in Ahsoka gives similar vibes.

  • @solsingularity106
    @solsingularity106 2 роки тому

    Barry was here.

  • @murilopenagoncalves3831
    @murilopenagoncalves3831 Рік тому +1

    I wonder what the modern jedi would think about Meetra Surik. Would they want to cut her from the force?

  • @gaminninja5536
    @gaminninja5536 Рік тому +1

    One thing I wish that was never a thing was giving the exile a name and a face, such as the same as Reven we know Revan by name, but revan could’ve fallen to the dark at the end of the first game, such as the exile could’ve been a male who fell to the Darkside or female. That was the original idea, but the MMO change that and the exile is dead, and all of kreia efforts for the exile to live meaningless, but the way I see it swtor story is not the true story hopefully someday one day someone will pick up the pieces from the ashes, and finish the fight at the dark edges of the Galaxy, whare a true enemy lies

  • @daneyal7162
    @daneyal7162 3 роки тому +1

    0:02- INSERT PILLAR MEN MUSIC!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @peterrusso8885
    @peterrusso8885 2 роки тому

    Loser has to take me shopping

  • @mrajw2456
    @mrajw2456 3 роки тому +4

    kotor 2 is last jedi done right

  • @SiNCry0
    @SiNCry0 20 днів тому

    The End\
    Then The three purple lightsabers apears

  • @michaelblower7363
    @michaelblower7363 2 роки тому +2

    What was Kreia referring to in her last dialogue? When she said "it's time to leave the republic to die".
    I don't recall it being heard in the game. :S Could it be Kreia foreshadowing Meetra facing the True Sith with Revan?

    • @jjedits488
      @jjedits488  2 роки тому +2

      Read the Revan novel and you’ll understand.

  • @jpjeffrey1234
    @jpjeffrey1234 2 роки тому +1

    They should remaster Kotor 1 and 2, everything else is getting remastered soooo

  • @ethanknifsend9775
    @ethanknifsend9775 11 місяців тому

    If they make a Kotor 2 movie right now Sara Kestelman could play Kreia

  • @dannyzimmerman5965
    @dannyzimmerman5965 3 роки тому +4

    I hope someday they do a remake of the game star wars knights of the old republic

    • @cathd5675
      @cathd5675 3 роки тому

      Kotor 3 is in development now

    • @NotARussianDisinfoBot
      @NotARussianDisinfoBot 3 роки тому +1

      @@cathd5675 Do you have a source for that?

    • @TheNord06
      @TheNord06 3 роки тому

      @@NotARussianDisinfoBot not Kotor 3 but there are rumours (confirmed, possibly, maybe?) that remake is in development

    • @Shou_22
      @Shou_22 2 роки тому

      I arrive from the future to bring some news... KOTOR remake (or reboot) is announced for PC and PS5 only... And will be written by a man hating sjw... (hence I didn't say "good news")
      And on flip side... The original KOTOR game is ported to switch and compared to the GTA port... KOTOR is running pretty good on switch... And hopefully it succeeded so we can have KOTOR 2 port as well...

  • @darthnihilus310
    @darthnihilus310 16 днів тому

    so in kotor 2 male version is also meetra surik? or is there another name for male version?

  • @tierban5803
    @tierban5803 3 роки тому +1

    I always found the male exiles story made more sense

    • @quentin5274
      @quentin5274 3 роки тому

      Can you develop if you have the time?

    • @tierban5803
      @tierban5803 3 роки тому

      @@quentin5274 like make a video?

    • @quentin5274
      @quentin5274 3 роки тому

      @@tierban5803 Why not if you have the motivation

    • @tierban5803
      @tierban5803 3 роки тому

      @@quentin5274 that's a fair point. Honestly i just felt like giving my two cents.

    • @Mperalta97
      @Mperalta97 3 роки тому +3

      Why would it make more sense?

  • @jaads7910
    @jaads7910 3 роки тому +1

    Kk jj and Roundhead should be made listen to this stuff on loop,

    • @eren34558
      @eren34558 2 роки тому

      but would they understand the message?

  • @roguesodyssey
    @roguesodyssey Рік тому

    What is the picture of the exile at 5:15?

    • @ynrmht
      @ynrmht Рік тому

      Probably from the Old Republic

  • @andreferrer9350
    @andreferrer9350 3 роки тому +4

    Everybody is loving Kreia so much. I myself see her as too arrogant, not accepting that perhaps she simply does not understand the will of the Force

    • @Shou_22
      @Shou_22 2 роки тому +3

      My take is that she actually understands... But maybe a bit too much... That's why she wants to destroy it...

  • @mrajw2456
    @mrajw2456 3 роки тому

    in my kotor revan was a female and exile was a male

  • @emptyvaynes4444
    @emptyvaynes4444 2 роки тому

    who are the people in masks at 4:50?

    • @jjedits488
      @jjedits488  2 роки тому +2

      The Force Priestesses from season 6 of The Clone Wars.

    • @emptyvaynes4444
      @emptyvaynes4444 2 роки тому

      @@jjedits488 ty

  • @odin1185
    @odin1185 2 роки тому +4

    HATED the way they killed meetra. Such a shity stupid way to get rid of an awesome character and for a stupid one like scourge.

  • @WorgenGrrl
    @WorgenGrrl 3 роки тому

    If you want to know what a Grey Jedi is...look no further than Kreia.

    • @tezz2698
      @tezz2698 3 роки тому

      She's a Sith

    • @rosea4592
      @rosea4592 3 роки тому

      The exile is a grey Jedi

    • @chrisbuttonshaw2088
      @chrisbuttonshaw2088 3 роки тому +3

      Kreia is NONE. She's a Force-User that HATES the Force. it's certainly intriguing.

    • @dreadrath
      @dreadrath 2 роки тому +2

      Not even close. Sith thrive on power, no Sith would EVER want to kill The Force since that would essentially be killing the very heart of the power they love so much. Likewise the Jedi who serve the force would never want to kill it because without it they are nothing, and gray Jedi are essentially just do-nothing layabouts with no real purpose, so Kreia is not a gray jedi either. Yet al 3, Sith, Jedi, Gray Jedi, depend on the force more than most. Some might argue Kreia is more noble than any Jedi for wanting to free the galaxy from the force. Others would argue she's a million times more evil than any Sith for the same reason, as killing the force would effectively kill 99.999999% of life in the universe.
      Kreia was a bitter idealist who picked an unwinnable fight with a universal entity for the purpose, misguided or not, to save a doomed universe from repeating the same cycle over millennia for the sake of maintaining said entity's "Balance". Her little war was lost before it even began regardless since I'm pretty sure The Force can't be killed. Given all the different ways people view the force, like saying its a benevolent god that loves all and only has their best interests in mind, or if its just using the cycles of conflict to keep itself stable in some screwed up way, the will of the force could be just about anything, and what it is may not be what the Jedi and Sith want to believe it is.
      Personally I think the force hates dark siders since they use the force to hurt life and since the force is woven through all life, dark side force users are essentially, albeit inadvertently, using the force to hurt the force for the sake of serving themselves, thus the jedi are like the antidote that cleanse the dark side disease, and in the cleansing, the rest of the galaxy gets swept up in the conflict. Yet most Sith and Dark Jedi were once Jedi who served the force by denying themselves only to "Fall" and end up using the force to serve themselves. Perhaps the universe having no knowledge of The Force or how to use it is a better solution than killing it, it might work IF the force really is a benevolent entity. BUT if the force really does thrive on the cycles of conflict, then maybe it really should be killed, if that's even possible. Either way, the Star Wars universe is doomed.

    • @pharaohbubbles1547
      @pharaohbubbles1547 Рік тому +1

      Jedi, Sith, those are merely titles

  • @aurelia8028
    @aurelia8028 Рік тому +1

    Damn this is amazing

  • @DropkickNation
    @DropkickNation 3 роки тому

    Man, her death was so lame in the book...

  • @wedgeantilles4712
    @wedgeantilles4712 3 роки тому +3

    In the novel, Meetras fate was a terrible writing choice.