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  • Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
  • Excerpts from the video game "Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords" This is about Kreia and some alternate or cut lines from her conversation with the Exile in the ruins of the Jedi Enclave on Dantooine, which takes place if the Jedi Masters have been slain by the Exile. Restored content include Kreia attacking the Exile through their Force bond, stabbing herself with a lightsaber so that the Exile would feel the pain. There is also a very long explanation of the issues which are the main focus of the game, namely the nature of Darth Nihilus and the Exile's, and a larger perspective on connections in the Force.

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  • @andreiclawhammer
    @andreiclawhammer 9 років тому +1761

    So depressing when you realize we will never get another Star Wars game with this level of writing .

    • @bonjanglevash
      @bonjanglevash 9 років тому +100

      Because Disney sold the rights to another monopoly known as EA. Fuck Disney.

    • @lightsidemaster
      @lightsidemaster 9 років тому +42

      +bonjanglevash Possibly the worst decision Disney has EVER made.

    • @medina8484
      @medina8484 8 років тому +66

      +lightsidemaster EA pretty much ruined battlefront. Even tho it looks good graphically, there is no campaign, and no galactic conquest. That's why I refuse to buy it.

    • @lightsidemaster
      @lightsidemaster 8 років тому +28

      Draven Medina
      VERY GOOD decision!
      Same here.
      It's true that the graphics are beyond awesome, but to me, graphics are far from being the most important aspect of a game.
      There are so many things wrong with this game it's disgusting.

    • @medina8484
      @medina8484 8 років тому +30

      ***** Personally, I would rather buy an xbox original or ps2, buy battlefront 2, and play that rather than buy this EA abomination.

  • @HopemanGG
    @HopemanGG 9 років тому +982

    "Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist."
    George Carlin

    • @WillieManga
      @WillieManga 9 років тому +106

      Among the darkest and wisest words spoken by a comedian.

    • @StoicSurvivor99
      @StoicSurvivor99 6 років тому +4

      Hopeman YES!!!

    •  4 роки тому +1

      will people with brain damage ever stop quoting a shabbos minature human?

  • @TheBaesment
    @TheBaesment 4 роки тому +304

    People never believe me when I say I became a Star Wars fan from the games, much more so than the movies.
    This is exactly why.

    • @LittleMacscorner
      @LittleMacscorner 3 роки тому +14

      Star Wars TOT is why I became a fan. The KOTOR games are the only reason I am still a fan!

    • @jordansmith6959
      @jordansmith6959 Рік тому +4

      Same here! I was always a Star Wars fan but in my later childhood these games and other EU stuff really blew my mind and it continues to be my favourite star wars yet! After playing this game Star Wars was never the same for me when it can be this good!

    • @Jacy-dx6dx
      @Jacy-dx6dx 9 місяців тому

      Lego Star wars is why I'm a fan.

  • @hardleftturn7274
    @hardleftturn7274 10 років тому +1203

    Screw the trilogies this is where the real beauty of Star Wars lies.

    • @arthas640
      @arthas640 10 років тому +107

      i agree. i got way more emotionally invested in swotor then either of the trilogies. Revan and kreia are two of the top fictional characters of all time in my mind. revan, the cunning general who would commit any evil to do the most good and kreia, the master manipulator who does what must be done

    • @hardleftturn7274
      @hardleftturn7274 10 років тому +50

      Arthas Menethil I would give anything to see a Revan Kreia interaction. It would be the most amazing give and take, nothing against Meetra, I mean she had a lot of potential to be a lot more interesting, Just the wookiepedia page alone was more interesting. Obsidian did an amazing job even with their bosses looming over them to get it done before Christmas, that's ridiculous, they made most of their money from the real fans that would've waited for their masterpiece. KOTOR one was amazing, not finishing KOTOR 2 was absurd for a game that is for a small cult audience.

    • @hardleftturn7274
      @hardleftturn7274 10 років тому +21

      TheDarkSider I play Kotor 2 more anyway. Yeah Nihilus, Kreia and Sion were way cooler. Nihilus being able to kill every Jedi, Kreia being the master female manipulator who doesn't use sex which is extremely rare, and Sion although my least favorite was still technically immortal and had to be Dun Moched to death.

    • @TightyWhities94
      @TightyWhities94 10 років тому

      i couldn't agree more

    • @lightning366
      @lightning366 10 років тому

      indeed. Real beauty of Star Wars. Good words.

  • @Turtle1631991
    @Turtle1631991 9 років тому +706

    This shows that Kreia is really not a Sith nor does she agree with that ideology. Many think so becouse majority of players play lightside and hear her opposing LS choices constantly. Yet if you try to be vicious, cruel murderer in the game you are bound to be even more berated by her. This scene is a prime example.

    • @SRaitsa
      @SRaitsa 9 років тому +61

      +Turtle1631991 A more serious Jolee Bindo maybe?

    • @Mannetasi
      @Mannetasi 8 років тому +135

      +Raitsa I'd say thats a very good way to describe Kreia, she has seen the Jedi Order for what they were in this time: Arrogant, Cowardly and almost paranoid.
      She went to Dark Side and the Sith and realized they weren't much better.
      Thus she set out to use Meetra Surrik to end both the Jedi and the Sith.

    • @garrycotton7094
      @garrycotton7094 8 років тому +122

      +Turtle1631991 Some of Kreia's reasoning is so fantastic.
      I remember on Nar Shaddaa someone comes to you and asks for money, if you give it to them Kreia berates you which would make you think she's mean or bad. But then she explains that in such a situation - where people are fighting for their very lives - you're making that person a target and you see a scene of that person getting attacked for the money you gave.
      She's one of the best characters in any fictional universe.

    • @juanlaise1059
      @juanlaise1059 7 років тому +43

      Shadowpatrick_1007
      In this time? Even the prequel time jedi were the same. They think that they are always right and that there isn't anything besides what they know. "If it isn't in the archives, it doesn't exist". That's why they were so deteriorated and were so blind to Palpatine.

    • @Mannetasi
      @Mannetasi 7 років тому +34

      Juan Laise
      True but they were even worse in the Old Republic era.
      At least the Jedi in the prequels tried to do something about the Trade Federation and the Clone Wars rather than trying to come up with a "peaceful" solution to it, in other words pretty much nothing.

  • @DirkBrickAction
    @DirkBrickAction 6 років тому +370

    "Let that pain be a lesson" is one of the first dark side dialogue choices you have with Kreia, on the Ebon Hawk after she loses her hand. Pretty awesome that she throws those words in your face if you continue down the dark side path.

    • @Swordsman99k
      @Swordsman99k 2 роки тому +19

      OH wow, that actually makes it so much better.

    • @itsaguinness
      @itsaguinness Рік тому +1

      shes a gray jedi

  • @Rebellions
    @Rebellions 8 років тому +940

    This might sound weird, but I never felt worse in this game then when I disappointed Kreia

    • @TheJacques93
      @TheJacques93 8 років тому +5

      +Jack Ream In this particular scene or throughout the game?

    • @Rebellions
      @Rebellions 8 років тому +115

      Chickenman452 Throughout the game

    • @DarthCreator
      @DarthCreator 8 років тому +46

      +Jack Ream because you became too attached to that person and her opinion. Shame on you!

    • @darthteej1
      @darthteej1 8 років тому +142

      +Jack Ream I read a really interesting article online which basically said that Kreia is a maeternal figure, where as most mentors(Gandalf, Merlin) are paternal figures. So it really stings when you disappoint Kreia because she tries to appear strong and impart knowledge on you. You've basically disappointed your grandmother-someone who took you in when no one else would.

    • @thedemonhater7748
      @thedemonhater7748 8 років тому +56

      +Darth Creator
      Kreia:nihilus, you have failed me. You have become to reliant on the force
      Nihilus: You know what Traya? I'm tired of your constant lectures. I shall become stronger, and consume all living things in the galaxy.
      (Beats up using sion)
      Kreia: Exile, you have failed me. You have become to reliant upon the force.
      Exile: You know what Kreia? I hate you!
      Kreia: (stabs self.) Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu*k you!

  • @comickazii6629
    @comickazii6629 8 років тому +537

    Her voice actor is amazing

    • @JMLCK78
      @JMLCK78 7 років тому +17

      Omg, she's narrated audiobooks? I'm definitely going to look into that.

    • @jtsharp6129
      @jtsharp6129 7 років тому +1

      Comic Kazii I seriously thought she was Maggie Smith.

    • @BioLegacy141
      @BioLegacy141 7 років тому +3

      What??? Have you seen Harry Potter??? They sound nothing alike.

    • @fabianfischer4229
      @fabianfischer4229 7 років тому +22

      According to Sara Kestelman's page on Wikipedia, she also portrayed Lady MacBeth. I would have loved to see that performance of hers! Both Lady MacBeth and Kreia are manipulative women after all.

    • @whodatninja439
      @whodatninja439 7 років тому +4

      has she ever talked about Kreia???

  • @bigafrye
    @bigafrye 10 років тому +467

    "You have failed me. Completely and utterly."
    Say a prayer but let the goosebumps roll ladies and gents.

  • @Gregtami
    @Gregtami 8 років тому +410

    "You have failed me. Completely and utterly".
    *kills himself*

    • @Yoruyo.
      @Yoruyo. 8 років тому +87

      This hits hard even if you don't agree with her ways. Like she just wrecks you and it actually makes you feel bad lmao

    • @megabyte01
      @megabyte01 5 років тому +18

      It also makes sense in context of the game. Kreia is the person whose bond is strongest with the exile, both thematically and as a gameplay mechanic. To see her harm herself as a way to reach out to you is something else

    • @frank.medgyesi
      @frank.medgyesi 5 років тому +8

      Himself?

  • @RegentofSparta
    @RegentofSparta 6 років тому +492

    There are so many games that don't DARE do this.
    This is a game that dares fill the players cup with the consequences of being an evil man/women and tell them precisely what they are.
    Oh so you enjoyed reveling in power? In Killing people with Force lighting? Cutting down people with your lightsabre? Well here you little monster have a good look.
    Very few games DARE tell a player they have been bad to this level .
    I suspect that is why so many people don't like her - they don't like being told their DS murder spee had consequences.

    • @dakotavanleer3859
      @dakotavanleer3859 6 років тому +21

      Cato the Younger Kinda like Spec Ops The Line how it makes you feel bad about killing people.

    • @RegentofSparta
      @RegentofSparta 6 років тому +19

      Sort off..but (spoiler alert) Captain Walker is crazy whereas Metra Surik is most definitely not crazy

    • @dakotavanleer3859
      @dakotavanleer3859 6 років тому +3

      Yeah that's true.

    • @Turtle1631991
      @Turtle1631991 5 років тому +18

      It sort of reminds me of Trevor character in GTA V. Essentially they wrote character that would actually act like many players do in the game. Nothing short of genius.

    • @BooguyTheAdept
      @BooguyTheAdept 5 років тому +5

      I think that this is too hard for many people to write a scenario like this, so they just don't even try.

  • @evanblake3009
    @evanblake3009 10 років тому +800

    Kreia is hands down the most complex, thought-provoking video game character ever written.

    • @Roflcopter4b
      @Roflcopter4b 10 років тому +6

      Uh, no.

    • @sharangcool
      @sharangcool 10 років тому +159

      Roflcopter4b
      compelling argument you got there

    • @Roflcopter4b
      @Roflcopter4b 10 років тому +4

      sharangcool The burden of proof lies on you.

    • @BioLegacy141
      @BioLegacy141 7 років тому +67

      No, the burden of proof lies on you, as you are now making the claim that someone else is more thought provoking. By saying she isn't the most thought provoking character, you posit someone else is. So who do you think is more complex?

    • @BioLegacy141
      @BioLegacy141 7 років тому +10

      Anything Vintage your suggestions are without merit. Naming names from other video games doesn't prove your point. Why do you think any of those characters are more complex than Kreia?

  • @Jwine95
    @Jwine95 Рік тому +61

    I just want to say Sara Kestleman really knocked it out of the park with this performance here. She was the PERFECT voice actor for this role. Chris may have wrote the words, but sara brought Kreia to life.

    • @wertfi908
      @wertfi908 Рік тому +5

      She managed to convey such seething contempt and disappointment. I feel like I failed her myself, and I’ve never even played this game.

  • @jaykdos9521
    @jaykdos9521 2 роки тому +35

    "You have failed me. Completely and utterly."
    I have no idea why that line cut me so deeply on my first DS playthriugh, so that must mean this game is a masterpiece

  • @Slavman24
    @Slavman24 10 років тому +401

    Incredibly underrated story, Kreia's dialogue is probably the most thoughtful and rational take on the force of all Star Wars works. There is no arbitrary good/evil, just consequences.

    • @kirbyza
      @kirbyza 10 років тому +78

      Obsidian's writers are masters of grey morality and humanity. If we ever get the KOTOR game we all need over that shitty MMO, I want Obsidian at the helm with all the time in the world to perfect it.

    • @LegendofLegaia929
      @LegendofLegaia929 10 років тому +18

      kirbyza
      I think a reboot of KOTOR 1 and 2 made by Obsidian would be great, personally (maybe have BioWare partner up with Obsidian for KOTOR 1, though). This series had amazing potential, but it all got fucked over when Obsidian was forced to release an unfinished game.

    • @kirbyza
      @kirbyza 10 років тому +25

      LegendofLegaia929
      No, it got fucked over when TOR was made. The rushed development of KOTOR 2 was a huge misstep, but not a momentum killer.

    • @TheRedlanterncorp
      @TheRedlanterncorp 10 років тому +1

      kirbyza It dosnt help that Obsidian always releases unfinished/broken games. If bioware hunkered down and re released them it would be awesome..

    • @kirbyza
      @kirbyza 10 років тому +24

      TheRedlanterncorp
      It also doesn't help that this game was rushed out for Christmas. They got less than one year to work on it. Say what you will of Obsidian's other games, but KOTOR 2 simply didn't get enough time.

  • @wombatmike7990
    @wombatmike7990 9 років тому +170

    damn Kreia, that's cold. At least she explains things more clearly then the masters do.

    • @ravenousbasilisk5120
      @ravenousbasilisk5120 5 років тому +3

      Yet i still can't understand where this is supposed to go %|

    • @LuminousLead
      @LuminousLead 4 роки тому +8

      @@ravenousbasilisk5120 You mean her motives? It sounds like she's aware of the existential threat the peak-sith masters represent and wants someone immune to the whispers of the force to handle the problem. That the exile here is small-minded and blood-hungry means that Kreia doesn't have much hope for the galaxy.

  • @davidanderson9524
    @davidanderson9524 10 років тому +157

    This scene and the Light Side version of the scene make me cringe at just how truthful Kreia's words are (and at how damn powerful she is!)

  • @Tynami22
    @Tynami22 10 років тому +233

    The scenes with Kreia in the Rebuilt Jedi Enclave are the most climatic and beautifully written scenes of all time in any game, any movie, anything. The impact of every word she says, revealing EVERYTHING behind the intricate and perfect plot of KOTOR 2, is almost incomprehensible.

    • @gibberconfirm166
      @gibberconfirm166 10 років тому +41

      There are so many mirror-like reflections. Exiles, wounds in the force, Exile/Kreia, Exile/Visas, Exile/Nihilus (Nihilus IS the wound in the force the exile made?), Kreia/Atris, Exile/Atris, Handmaiden/Exile, Exile/Revan. Makes your head spin, and then there's the beautiful music, too.

    • @matijerzykom
      @matijerzykom 9 років тому +5

      gibberconfirm Nihilus is Wound In the Force and Exile is Wound in the Force. He is what she would became,if she had fallen to the Dark Side.

    • @PanosKalaigidis
      @PanosKalaigidis 8 років тому +1

      +Darth Likaon Darth Nihilus IS the exile, the part of him/her that hungered for power and was cut off from the exile. In essence Darth Nihilus IS the exile's connection to the force given form and purpose

    • @matijerzykom
      @matijerzykom 8 років тому +5

      Panos Kalaigidis What you say is just your interpretation. Nihilus is never stated, nor hinted really, to be an aspect of Exile. First of all - no matter the gender of Exile, Nihilus is always reffered to as male. And, he is stated to have been a conciouss being before Malachor V, a complete person. I know Kotor 2 has some similarities to Kingdom Hearts, but not that much :D

    • @BioLegacy141
      @BioLegacy141 7 років тому +6

      Darth Nihilus is his own person. He fought on Malachor, and survived the Shadow Mass Generator.

  • @briansheehan3430
    @briansheehan3430 6 років тому +334

    Kreia's teachings are in fact the entire philosophy of the Art of War.
    She wanted you to defeat the Jedi, philosophically, and show them that their convictions are flawed. As opposed to simply killing them in sheer emotional bloodlust and revenge.
    "To fight and destroy in all of your battles is not the mark of supreme excellence.
    Supreme excellence lies in crushing your adversaries resolve without fighting." - Sun Tzu
    Easily the most beautifully dark and complex piece of Star Wars material that exists, and terribly overshadowed by its ideologically inferior predecessor.

    • @ricoco7891
      @ricoco7891 5 років тому +25

      Brian Sheehan Is KOTOR 1 simpler? Of course, but I don't believe that makes it a worse game. To me, KOTOR has that good old original trilogy SW feel, and although I appreciate the complex philosophy and moral deconstruction of 2, I simply prefer 1 for the reason I stated. KOTOR 2 is like a beautifully written and complex book, while KOTOR is like the original movies. I guess preference of the two depends on a day to day mood.

    • @RobertKuusk
      @RobertKuusk 5 років тому +1

      But the issue is that her philosophy wasn't redeemed in the end. The Exile defeated her and left for Deep Space.

    • @element1111
      @element1111 5 років тому +9

      @@ricoco7891 He didn't say that 2 was better. Kotor 1 is a fantastic game. Great worlds, decent writing, good story, some good characters (Bastila, Carth, Candoras, HK ). It's arguably one of Bioware's greatest achievements

    • @Filip1613
      @Filip1613 5 років тому +8

      Justifiably overshadowed by a game that was actually finnished.*

    • @alexander9703
      @alexander9703 4 роки тому

      @@Filip1613 Given KotOR II's rushed development timetable, it's not as justifiable as you claim. Simple amazing they produced this level of quality in such a short space of time.

  • @jedkirk2748
    @jedkirk2748 9 років тому +283

    hands down best writing in a video game ever

    • @nex6939
      @nex6939 9 років тому +9

      Agreed.

    • @borisyn
      @borisyn 9 років тому +2

      Darth Infinitus Even better than the main 6 (soon to be 7) SW movies I find. Is that weird? haha

    • @nex6939
      @nex6939 9 років тому +2

      Boris Yuen 7 may be shit.

    • @jedkirk2748
      @jedkirk2748 9 років тому +2

      I agree kind you 1 and 2 were pretty bad

    • @jedkirk2748
      @jedkirk2748 9 років тому

      Fucking auto correct *mind you

  • @Joker11297
    @Joker11297 9 років тому +135

    Darth Traya is one of my favorite characters. So deep and complex

  • @Daltheer
    @Daltheer 9 років тому +79

    Incomplete, this game still has one of the darkest stories in video games.

  • @mr.tophat1942
    @mr.tophat1942 8 років тому +120

    During this part i was so shock i never had so many emotions run through me at once. I was having lots of fun killing Jedi that had exiled me. When she got mad at me i did not know what to think.

  • @VampCoffee
    @VampCoffee 8 років тому +69

    She is very quotable, lol.

  • @PsychicWars
    @PsychicWars 7 років тому +100

    Jesus, woman, do you ever BREATHE?

    • @tommygunengineer9184
      @tommygunengineer9184 5 років тому +13

      One can indeed hear the constant and abrupt change of tone of her voice actress, if one listens closely. She must've done a lot of takes to get these 8 mins right!

    • @ZorroCeleste1
      @ZorroCeleste1 5 років тому +22

      @@Visitormassacre - Is it possible to learn this power?

    • @mouseman9287
      @mouseman9287 5 років тому +26

      ​@@ZorroCeleste1 Not from a jedi

  • @DinkSmalwood
    @DinkSmalwood Рік тому +16

    Influence Lost: Kreia
    Influence Gained: Kreia

    • @JimmySpace69
      @JimmySpace69 Рік тому +12

      Light side points gained
      Dark side points gained
      Net dark side shift

  • @hexcellerateofficial
    @hexcellerateofficial 9 років тому +135

    One word: Damn.

  • @DueIistGio
    @DueIistGio 3 роки тому +25

    Years later after playing this and kreia’s scoldings still hit harder than a truck on the freeway

  • @SilentAssassin927
    @SilentAssassin927 9 років тому +51

    I dont why but Kreia always creeped me out when she spoke at the Trayus academy when the music was playing

    • @tommygunengineer9184
      @tommygunengineer9184 5 років тому +4

      Well, her appearance DOES change drastically and she IS trying to kill you after giving you wisdom and teaching you throughout the entire game ;)

  • @Maultest
    @Maultest 11 років тому +26

    I think Kreia said it best
    "The MMO is an Echo of what Once Was"

    • @andyanderson3776
      @andyanderson3776 3 місяці тому

      Did Kreia sense down the line, Darth Sidious and Lord Vader coming?

  • @xGarrettThiefx
    @xGarrettThiefx 10 років тому +161

    Still playable even by today's standards

    • @CrazyYurie
      @CrazyYurie 10 років тому +61

      Playable? It's still awesome. Not merely playable.

    • @SSangsen
      @SSangsen 10 років тому +3

      Take my upvote for your avatar, sir

    • @CrazyYurie
      @CrazyYurie 10 років тому

      SSangsen Erm... was that to me, or the Sarevok I was replying to? :o

    • @xGarrettThiefx
      @xGarrettThiefx 10 років тому +1

      SSangsen I tip my hat off to you in deference and utmost respect. Thankyou :-*)

    • @joseventura5518
      @joseventura5518 6 років тому +4

      I still play both to this day, Now on my Xbox one with reverse compatibility 👌

  • @LifeFirst
    @LifeFirst 12 років тому +22

    Also the part where Atton explains to you how to kill a Jedi was chilling. That was just so evil, but the writing was so good you it just made you like the character even more. Carth never had any dialogue even close to that.

    • @zonatm8577
      @zonatm8577 Рік тому +6

      "I don't want to talk about it."

  • @PopeDuwang
    @PopeDuwang Рік тому +5

    Grandma was so disappointed in me, she stabbed herself to teach me one final lesson.

  • @sunjikumar9622
    @sunjikumar9622 6 років тому +22

    I use to play this as a child it's 2 days away from 2018 and I'm playing this game again. I wish their was a rpg starwars game with tho level of story telling.

  • @michaelwarreker5550
    @michaelwarreker5550 9 років тому +607

    KoTOR 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disney canon.

    • @Zionrezort
      @Zionrezort 8 років тому +6

      +Michael Warreker Disney cannon is completely unreleated to this? not to mention this could still be easily used? Its only like 4000 years before the movies.

    • @alvinbayle8556
      @alvinbayle8556 8 років тому +4

      +Michael Warreker KOTOR 2 was ass compared to the vanilla. This game was even unfinished even with the restored content

    • @winderfiend7647
      @winderfiend7647 8 років тому +32

      +Michael Warreker Kotor2>>>>>>>SWTOR

    • @jon6car
      @jon6car 8 років тому +34

      +Alvin Bayle if you're trying to say Kotor is better than Kotor 2 then that's what needs to be said. The "vanilla" game means without dlc or mods. By the way I don't agree with that sentiment at all. Kotor 2 to me had the best moments overall even if unfinished. Kreia was a spectacular character unmatched in almost any media star wars has with her depth.

    • @Zionrezort
      @Zionrezort 8 років тому

      Alvin Bayle Was ass? did you even play it? We all know it wasnt as good and incomplete, but it was a good game, should have been an amazing game, but it was good, and even with all that was left out, its still more complete than any game you buy these days xD unless you count buying the game then waiting like 12 months worth of patches and paying an extra $20-$60 as complete. idk, i felt it was a good game that could have been just as good as the first, but tbf i only played through the original release like 8 years ago 1 time, only played it again recently with the restored content, so my child memory could be betraying me xD

  • @Galmion
    @Galmion 8 років тому +76

    I am speechless

  • @rustcohle3803
    @rustcohle3803 4 роки тому +171

    To think... people think last jedi is on the same level as this

    • @LittleMacscorner
      @LittleMacscorner 3 роки тому +3

      @Dalen Lewin Well Said, explained, with perfect examples!

    • @LittleMacscorner
      @LittleMacscorner 3 роки тому +7

      People voted for Trump. same same.

    • @TristanHayes
      @TristanHayes 3 роки тому +17

      @@LittleMacscorner Orangeman bad

    • @LittleMacscorner
      @LittleMacscorner 3 роки тому +7

      @@TristanHayes Very very Bad

    • @right8630
      @right8630 3 роки тому +4

      @@LittleMacscorner he pulled troops out of the Middle East he could do as much bad as u say he has and yet he has done more good with this action than bush Obama Clinton bush sr combined.

  • @lordnihilus3198
    @lordnihilus3198 3 роки тому +6

    She did not become the dark lord out of will, but out of necesity.

  • @ragelion
    @ragelion 9 років тому +81

    This is how I view the scene somewhat and what kriea is trying to teach you depending on your alignment.
    if you are light side she wants you to see that being impassive all the time and helping every random person may not benefit them or you in the long run actually.
    While if you are dark side murdering random people for fun etc or petty revenge which is not needed is not actually an effective way to increase your power in the dark side.
    Hence why my ds exile sith lord let the jedi masters live. Why? you might ask? Per kriea's lessons and conversations the jedi are already broken and defeated what revenge is there to be had? Looking upon them the are scared hermits unable to change or adapt. In my opinion a more fitting form of revenge is to let them wallow in their self pity and use them to gain new techniques.
    When I got to this scene and the end Kriea had nothing but praise for me(while delievering some jedi master ass whooping) exile in my opinion Kriea also wanted the jedi and sith to change. Honestly I feel that the story would of been more interesting if the exile was dark side and Revan light side. Plus with the restore content playing dark side reveals alot more interesting info.

  • @somerandomskywalker9854
    @somerandomskywalker9854 Рік тому +2

    That intro music though, when the video starts. Chills.

  • @eebaumgartnerful1
    @eebaumgartnerful1 11 років тому +12

    This is the deepest video game I have ever played.

  • @acenull0
    @acenull0 2 роки тому +7

    This is like the perfect melding of video game mechanics and writing. Everything makes sense and it's awesome

  • @leofcpm
    @leofcpm 8 років тому +37

    That was a game you felt like replaying time and time again. Unfortunately I expected a long time for a KOTOR 3 that never came...

  • @RX7821979
    @RX7821979 7 років тому +37

    seems no one could understand the true nature of The Force like Kreia did, not even Vitiate.

    • @ragingocelot4013
      @ragingocelot4013 7 років тому +1

      RX7821979 he and her would be a nice couple

    • @DraculaCronqvist
      @DraculaCronqvist 5 років тому +6

      Vitiate was a fool. Much like Nihilus, he understood very little of the Force.

    • @sikid4000
      @sikid4000 5 років тому

      @@DraculaCronqvist Kreia didn't know anything either.

    • @prometheusmodelow8322
      @prometheusmodelow8322 4 роки тому +4

      Valkorion was just a madman obssesed with himself, he didin't really understand the Force, he just viewed it as a set of powers.

    • @jakobrenner2230
      @jakobrenner2230 4 роки тому +4

      Vitiate was only ever thinking of becoming an all powerful and immortal (specially immortal) entity without any regard or willingness to understand the Force beyond what may grant him power (specially if that power meant escaping his main phobia: death). If you look closely, he is pathetic, he seeks immortality and power, sacrificing millions in the process of archieving his goals, simply beacuse he is too afraid to die. At the end, he never got beyond being only Tenebrae, that black-eyed child from the farm. He died being a child with a bunch of tricks. He never truly evolved himself.

  • @taunttitan1714
    @taunttitan1714 4 роки тому +9

    Kreia will forever be my favorite star wars character

    • @LittleMacscorner
      @LittleMacscorner 3 роки тому +1

      Really? I always couldn't stand her presumption to think she was so much wiser than everybody else. Like she was the only person in the world that ever aged and learned by living life and only her opinion was valid and correct. She is actually very arrogant in a way that makes her behave in the very manner she claims to despise.

  • @Bradatimrkonja
    @Bradatimrkonja 9 років тому +164

    I never understood why this game has no rewards for true neutral characters, it would be so amazing to play as a gray Jedi.

    • @baluar46
      @baluar46 8 років тому +46

      Problem is, most of the time you are forced to go either one side or the other. There's no simple way to stay in the middle because you are forced to balance LS and DS choices, and hardly ever given a chance for a neutral reaction. In a lot of situations, you are forced not because devs were lazy, but because you can't stay neutral to a situation like that... like when the original owner of the Ebon Hawk is captured by the Red Eclipse. I see no way to get out of a situation like that in a neutral manner.
      Granted, it'd be extremely interesting to see what role a grey Jedi Exile would play in the game's story (it would add yet another layer of awesomeness to an already epic game), but sadly, we are likely not gonna see that.

    • @Duzykutas
      @Duzykutas 7 років тому +7

      I played this game as a balanced character. Exactly as you said, balancing the choices between light and dark. Maybe this is why I missed so many things in the game. Might be time for a replay 10 years later.

    • @JackYoustra
      @JackYoustra 7 років тому +59

      That actually drives at Kreia's philosophy. She hates the force because of the predestination it chooses for people, how it draws them to rigidity by awarding power. In order to be gray, in order to fully embrace Kreia's teaching, you have to be willing to forsake power that isn't your own - drawing on her true teaching of strength. More than just a game mechanic, the way the game awards power based off of light / dark side points is an integral part of the game's philosophy

    • @spacejunk2186
      @spacejunk2186 6 років тому +17

      Kreia is not really a gray Jedi.

    • @theaveon1214
      @theaveon1214 6 років тому +26

      apathy is death. apathy = grey. Look at Bindo, a grey jedi and he was content to sit on the wookie homeworld while thousands died.

  • @animore8626
    @animore8626 2 роки тому +19

    I think what's often missed here, as I interpret it, is that when Kreia says "you have failed me" she's talking about her hopes for the Exile in being a Wound in the force. Kreia hoped that the will of the force could be denied through being that Wound, and that the manipulative temptations of the Light Side and Dark Side could be pushed aside so that people could make their own choices without being thrown into that dichotomy. Kreia hoped The Exile would learn to break away from the Dark Side and the Light Side, and be their own person.
    But they didn't. They let the power of the force corrupt them, and they were manipulated by its currents as sure as any other. They were just another pawn. She tried reaching The Exile strength, true skill, and the power of breaking free from the force, and the Exile spat those teachings out in her face by becoming just another result of the Force's tyranny.

  • @TheMerciless187
    @TheMerciless187 9 років тому +90

    This is sad that this story is no long canon. All these characters had a significant role to the Star Wars genre. I know its all fiction, and crap can change at the whim of the writers ..... or in this case the owner with the big bucks. Oh well that's life. :/

    • @DarthGojiraComics
      @DarthGojiraComics 9 років тому

      Actually it is

    • @DarthGojiraComics
      @DarthGojiraComics 9 років тому +1

      Revan and Malik are cannon so this is too

    • @DarthGojiraComics
      @DarthGojiraComics 9 років тому

      Malak

    • @TheMerciless187
      @TheMerciless187 9 років тому +16

      james a As of April 25 2014 Creative declared anything that is not of 6 Movies, the new movies, Clone Wars cartoon, Rebels cartoon, and future novels based on the previous as NON CANON.
      Logically all of its fiction, but basically expanded universe material is no longer fact now in this current Star Wars universe. Meaning Darth Revan, Darth Malak, and anything else Old Republic never existed. This goes for events in the New Republic era like Darth Krayt, Darth Talon (with her sexy self), Darth Maladi, etc etc.
      There excuse was they wanted a more consistent Star Wars continuity without a lot of confusion for them, and the fans. Very LAME!! :/

    • @neverable2
      @neverable2 9 років тому +6

      ShinXari Darth Bane went from a super buff bald white man to a skinny asian guy in samurai armor. His apprentice Darth Zannah went from a hot blonde woman to some unnamed human male with no details. Both were basically Revan acolytes basically tailoring the entirety of the Sith Code around Revan's personal holocron notes.
      Disney itself is rather confused of what to do with the Bioware based part of the timeline. The Old Republic would simply collapse if it was outright declared non canon and so EA is basically given the task of having the KotoR series pull double duty for two separate timelines which is bound to cause issues. For example Revan was supposed to be in the The Clone Wars to tie together the two eras but was simply killed in ToR because it was too hard to cleanly implement. You can just google his rejected model.

  • @MorganWeazy44
    @MorganWeazy44 9 років тому +124

    Real talk there should be either a movie or TV series based on Kotor 2

    • @awesomergamer27
      @awesomergamer27 9 років тому +3

      Should be KOTOR 1 then 2
      It would explain the story more and be less confusing

    • @karmichaelblue
      @karmichaelblue 9 років тому +5

      Morgan Weazy haha what a lovely coincidence to see this comment, I'm actually writing a KOTOR tv series right now.

    • @MorganWeazy44
      @MorganWeazy44 9 років тому +3

      Bethany Marie that's cool Bethany are you going to put it on UA-cam because if you do I'll be the first to watch it

    • @karmichaelblue
      @karmichaelblue 9 років тому +15

      I'm screenwriting it and trying to get it pitched to be put on television. With the size of fanbase, I believe it will be successful.

    • @MorganWeazy44
      @MorganWeazy44 9 років тому +2

      I do 2 wish you the best bethany

  • @talkaboutwacky
    @talkaboutwacky Рік тому +2

    Kreia telling me she was so disappointed in me stung

  • @plottwist3364
    @plottwist3364 10 років тому +26

    fuck it i never had 7:08 in all my playthrus
    i love when a game has still new things to be seen even if you've finished it 4 times

    • @ice13ill
      @ice13ill 10 років тому

      How the hell does that happen ?

    • @SuperLeetroy
      @SuperLeetroy 10 років тому +1

      Is that part of TSLRCM?

    • @CatroiOz
      @CatroiOz 10 років тому +3

      SuperLeetroy
      yes

    • @SimbaBrank23
      @SimbaBrank23 7 років тому

      ye....usually she just zaps you into oblivion.

  • @HenhousetheRed
    @HenhousetheRed 3 роки тому +3

    If Darth Traya was canon, and oh I wish she her, I think she would be a Sith Lady who is absolutely despised by future Sith such as those in the Banite line. She walked the path of Light, but was betrayed by it. She fell to the Dark, but was betrayed by it. So she despises both, and despises the Force itself. She is not a Gray Jedi, not truly. She is not between Light and Dark, she is beyond, a 4th way.

  • @jackson12ten85
    @jackson12ten85 6 років тому +10

    Her stabbing herself gave me more of a shock than finding out that I was Revan in the first game.

  • @deltasword1994
    @deltasword1994 3 роки тому +2

    >stabs a lightsaber into her own stomach
    >gets up and walks off like nothing happened

  • @aye_mask
    @aye_mask 7 років тому +46

    While this storyline could not make into the movie, a TV series would be quite fitting. To explore characters in depth and philosophy of the force. And lower risk in box office.

    • @robertfullchim923
      @robertfullchim923 4 роки тому +5

      Losing the interactive elements would kill the impact of the story. Videogames of this caliber made passive media storytelling obsolete.

  • @ra.n9482
    @ra.n9482 3 роки тому +2

    I still remember the first time I saw her activate her lightsaber , stab herself and the music kicks in .
    IT WAS AWSOME .

  • @pantonearqm2791
    @pantonearqm2791 3 роки тому +5

    One of the best scenes in the game, not only because of the narrative, writting and voice acting aspects, but because of role-playing potential.
    My first playthrough was full darkside character and killing Jedi Masters was one of the most satisfying things I did in RPGs, but after that scene I decided to change my ways, I spared Atris, I did everything I could to redeem my character during that playthrough.
    I never seen a scene that would force me to change my character like this did, usually my characters in RPGs remain what they were at the beginning to the very end and many games encourage you to play this way, but this game actually make you to think about what you did. It's fantastic.

  • @thefadingcrow6426
    @thefadingcrow6426 7 років тому +22

    Kreia will always be my true teacher. She actually influenced me.

  • @immortalfrieza
    @immortalfrieza 11 років тому +7

    This is amazing, both the Dark Side and Light Sided versions of this scene show so much more, especially the Dark Sided one. I've been watching any of these restored scenes that I could find, and the plot makes SO much more sense after seeing this stuff they cut out. The plot and in particular Kreia and her motivations are so... confusing, but with this they are much easier to understand.

  • @RX7821979
    @RX7821979 9 років тому +11

    this speech gives me chills on my spine, especially at 5:57

  • @BillBilliamson
    @BillBilliamson 7 років тому +30

    She just stabbed herself with a lightsaber because she knew I'd feel it too, kind of regret not going dark side just to see this

  • @JBSauce
    @JBSauce 4 роки тому +5

    Brilliant monologue drowned out by the music.

  • @witherbIoom
    @witherbIoom 6 років тому +3

    Man, Kreia is so fucking intelligent and knowledgeable. Such a well written and beautifully complex character.

  • @Demidota2009
    @Demidota2009 15 років тому +5

    I also like that Kreia doesn't really see good or bad, light or dark. She doesn't care if you've fallen or ascended, but that you learned from it.

  • @Vox_Star
    @Vox_Star 3 місяці тому +4

    Seriously, how the heck did we go from this to “the power of one, the power of two, the power of many”?🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • @bob1066ish
    @bob1066ish 9 років тому +15

    i hope they end up creating another one as good as this one, with the full game on release. not the play £50 for some unfinished game with 100 bugs, which you get today. this has been my favorite game for since i can remember

    • @benpooler5965
      @benpooler5965 8 років тому +5

      +bob1066ish Now let's be honest, as good as it was, this was some unfinished game with 100 bugs.

    • @bob1066ish
      @bob1066ish 8 років тому

      true

  • @haunted._sound
    @haunted._sound 4 роки тому +8

    My only gripes with this amazing game is the opening on Telos, Citadel station, and Peragus II before the Telos academy and the lack of an ending. Everything else is beautiful

    • @jacobgraemoor5778
      @jacobgraemoor5778 3 роки тому

      Sith lord restored helps immensely in a lot of parts that feel shaky

    • @LittleMacscorner
      @LittleMacscorner 3 роки тому

      Play on STEAM and subscribe to the restoration MOD. It restores all sorts of lost content the was cut out due to a bug and finishes up the HK sidequest. Much more satisfying conclusion and makes things a lot clearer.

  • @SoleMattiniero
    @SoleMattiniero 9 років тому +15

    I hope that will make a film on her character

  • @kurtnieser1709
    @kurtnieser1709 3 роки тому +3

    I remember when I first played this game and of course decided to do a darkside playthrough as my first run through (because why not?) and I enjoyed going around causing mayhem and giving into my darker impulses throughout the game. However when I came to this scene, I dunno exactly what it was. Maybe it was the music, maybe it was Kreia lecturing me, or maybe it was just the empty courtyard I was in where the council was supposed to be, but it was at this moment it really hit me home exactly what I had done and the ramifications of that really started to sink in. You had destroyed the Jedi order utterly and completely. It will absolutely never come back and never have any hope of ever coming back. Its kind of in this chilling moment you realize that the dark side.........has won and you caused it.

  • @muzzers2776
    @muzzers2776 3 роки тому +1

    Man, when she said you failed me I legit felt sorry. Like never in my years as a student have I ever felt wanting to make a teacher proud this much.

  • @JeanBaptisteEmanuelZorg
    @JeanBaptisteEmanuelZorg 10 років тому +27

    What the?! Never saw that coming! And I played both light and dark sides. Is it in restored content? And later is what? Game's end?

    • @KnightsAndDarths
      @KnightsAndDarths  10 років тому +17

      Dialog files sometimes include alternate lines and whole conversations that were cut at various points during development. The game doesn't end after this, no, the Exile is supposed to wake up and go to Telos.

    • @DARKHUNTER130
      @DARKHUNTER130 9 років тому +8

      zieba It would be a pretty cool ending though. It'll make you stop and think dam.... I probably shouldn't be such an ass XD

  • @TogrutaJedi
    @TogrutaJedi 14 років тому +6

    Quite a speech. It was truly moving, and I even cried a little bit.

  • @Finnatese
    @Finnatese 6 років тому +6

    Every now and again, I play through Kotor2 just for the dialogue with Kreia, there is no good vs evil with her, both extremes are wrong, she doesnt want death and destruction but she doesnt want blind adherence to some arbitrary code. Every other StarWars interaction just seems to fall short. This is one of the greatest written games in existance I think.

  • @christyjia8449
    @christyjia8449 6 років тому +32

    What a shame that Kathleen Kennedy's new trilogy couldn't have amazing dialogue and compelling characters like this video game. What a shame...

    • @BlueFury2577
      @BlueFury2577 5 років тому +2

      To be fair this is pretty uncommon in the movies in general.

    • @Amadeo790
      @Amadeo790 5 років тому +2

      Its because her strong woman have to be young with no need for no man and the man around her have to be mentally deteriorating morons.

  • @jamesrwc4738
    @jamesrwc4738 3 роки тому +3

    Kotor 2 really ruined any games chance of beating it in but quality and philosophy
    Imagine if they had the full time to make this game

  • @Trayusstudent1
    @Trayusstudent1 15 років тому +1

    I agree. Whenever I spoke to Kreia on the Ebon Hawk or even the last bit on Malachor, I always left with something I could think about personally. Kreia's advice helped me through some bad times lol

  • @CheeseSarny
    @CheeseSarny 8 років тому +24

    Krexposition

  • @dannytheman1313
    @dannytheman1313 2 роки тому +2

    Kreia follows her own ideology, one where it is better if neither the Jedi or Sith existed, for her they are one in the same, each one blinded to the will of something they can't possibly comprehend.

  • @KurasakiBleachigo1
    @KurasakiBleachigo1 7 років тому +14

    Kreia your just mad you didn't get to absorb the Jedi Masters' powers

  • @1992zorro
    @1992zorro 25 днів тому +1

    Best written Star Wars story ever done

  • @BlackWind90
    @BlackWind90 6 років тому +12

    Man, KOTOR 1 and KOTOR 2 were such brilliant videogames, especially the first one but also the second in its restored version....I'm seriously angry that they never thought to produce the restored version themselves and left all the job to the modders....and I truly would have liked a third chapter for this to be a real trilogy....I know The Old Republic is supposed to be that but honestly I don't like that one...I mean, think about a third chapter where you play as both Revan and the Exile and you face the True Sith Empire.....that would have been awesome....and yes, of course, KOTOR 1 and KOTOR 2 are far superior to Episode 7 and 8....

    • @MattRogan28
      @MattRogan28 6 років тому +2

      Obsidian Entertainment try to petitioned to LucasArts for a Content Patch which would restore the content that was cut out.
      But LucasArts refuse the request for some reason?

  • @KnightsAndDarths
    @KnightsAndDarths  15 років тому +2

    Music emphasizes the drama :) I'm glad you liked it, this is my first video of the year.

  • @MysteryPatron
    @MysteryPatron 11 років тому +25

    I personally preferred the LS version of this cutscene. Seeing the Jedi Masters describe the force bonds was so much more engaging, the way Kreia lectured them, the death of them all... it just felt so much more engaging than with just Kreia rambling at you.
    Still lovely writing and all, I just prefer the LS version here.

    • @alexander9703
      @alexander9703 4 роки тому +2

      Kreia telling the Masters they are wrong is understandably preferable to her telling you that your wrong!

  • @tothe99thloser
    @tothe99thloser 15 років тому

    She is the greatest teacher that anyone could have.
    Revan had three teachers, but he came back to this one, Kreia. To understand everything is to understand her.

  • @Morcorco
    @Morcorco 4 роки тому +10

    CAN YOU MAKE THE MUSIC A BIT LOUDER?!!!!

  • @MJSpiritual
    @MJSpiritual 14 років тому +1

    This is the most complex story I have ever seen from the Star Wars franchise the dialouge is so rich and well written this is really an intellectual game.

  • @Epictroll48
    @Epictroll48 7 років тому +7

    I'm not up to date on the Star Wars lore but after I just got done playing this game a day ago I felt like Keira was actually good minus attacking me, she was just trying to teach that is the force and not let it use you , as in the sith wanting to use it a certain way and the Jedi wanting to use it a certain way

  • @chickenman7801
    @chickenman7801 3 роки тому +2

    TL;DR Kreia knows absolute good is better than unrestrained evil.
    Light siders gain strength and power by taking on others struggles and gaining that experience.
    Dark siders that kill indiscriminately eliminate sources of growth and power by eliminating that struggle .
    Eliminating a strong opponent does not truly grow one's strength, either, until the time is right.
    How can one run with the wolves come night when they spend all day sparring with puppies?
    Learn from enemies. Physically best them if one must but spare them. Spare them until they can broken. Once they are broken death is a mercy and they may come to serve. Be wary of such service, however. When they make their move they may finally be destroyed. That is how strength is earned through the dark side. One can not feed off the power of others when everyone is dead.

  • @toughbladez21
    @toughbladez21 3 роки тому +3

    The level of writing for kotor 2 is wayyy better than all of the star wars films in my opinion

  • @christebiscon9577
    @christebiscon9577 8 місяців тому +2

    Its my first time seeing this in a year and i was still a little shocked when kreia stabbed herseld so fast

  • @JoesGuy
    @JoesGuy 9 років тому +54

    Sarkeesian, eat your heart out.

    • @11tw48
      @11tw48 7 років тому +7

      Some games: *have well-written female characters*
      Idiots Online: "checkmate feminists! I can name 10 well-written female characters! Equality achieved!"

    • @BioLegacy141
      @BioLegacy141 7 років тому +9

      A, she said no games have well written female characters. Secondly, one can name a lot more than 10. Especially when you include the main characters of RPGs, as they can be either male or female.

    • @11tw48
      @11tw48 7 років тому +6

      1. Citation Needed. She talks about trends, a proportional lack of positive female characters. She did a series on examples of good ones, and she acknowledges good examples in most videos.
      2. Great! No one really cares. I use 10 as an example. I saw someone "disprove" her videos by citing Clementine from The Walking Dead, one example of a well-written female character. Anita never claimed that good representation doesn't exist, she's advocating for more of your Clementines to be a thing since her whole deal is a diversity of PCs and NPCs in video games. I doubt many of the people who like TWD would say yes to "would you like to hear the story of a little black girl getting over the loss of her parents and having to grow up among horror?", but they did like it and now we've moved a step forward.
      3. Main characters in RPGs are rarely well written, in my experience. Revan and The Exile aren't incredible characters, they're self-inserts. The good characters are the NPCs.

    • @BioLegacy141
      @BioLegacy141 7 років тому +6

      11 tw she doesn't talk about trends; she makes unsupported assertions over and over again. Several times in her video series she says that the only time a 'strong' female character gets through development is when they're a "straw feminist". Also, that's the whole point of RPGs, hence the name "Role Playing Game". You control and decide for the character. A good player character in RPGs is one where the story is built solidly around your decisions, making you the focus.
      There is plenty of diversity in video games. And her basis for calling for more is absolute bunk. Hell, her own Master's thesis couldn't list more than 4 positive traits for women in video games, while she list more than 8 for men. If producers were restricted to her list, every female character would be the exact same goddamn person. And not only that, the idea that video games get people to be more violent is like saying that they make people more violent, an idea that was disproven in a US federal court case.
      There are plenty of strong female characters in video games. They aren't a tiny minority. They are a large chunk of populace in video game universes. They're a minority though, and why? Because female gamers are a minority. A disproportionate minority to the amount of females in video games.

    • @JoesGuy
      @JoesGuy 7 років тому +1

      Oh-ho, far more than ten, my very gullible friend.

  • @UltraCommanderYtube
    @UltraCommanderYtube 12 років тому +1

    AMAZING STORYLINE AND SCRIPTURE, holy crap!

  • @Gunfighter150
    @Gunfighter150 3 роки тому +5

    Kreia at the end of the day seems to me doesn’t care about you doing unnecessarily the ‘right’ thing or the wrong thing. What she cares most about is you doing the wise thing that must be done regardless at how immoral it is.

  • @Runescape12345
    @Runescape12345 11 років тому +1

    I just love the part between 7:27 and 7:33, small of a speech as that is. Kreia sounds like the old, tired woman she is at that point, one who's exhausted from all of her failures, all of her betrayals by those she had thought to be her friends and allies--and then failed again by someone who she had poured all of her hopes into.
    They really picked the right actress for this. Hopefully Kestelman can get a role in Obsidian's Kickstarter game as the narrator, that would be really awesome.

  • @DolphinPain
    @DolphinPain 7 років тому +14

    Mash Ayn Rand and Friedrich Nietzsche into an old force welding lady. That's Kreia.

    • @Vezmus1337
      @Vezmus1337 6 років тому +1

      Also your grandma and a jar of wrinkles

    • @SuperLumianaire
      @SuperLumianaire 6 років тому +1

      digger nick Hateful but useful woman plus the original hipster Nazi?

  • @Straswa
    @Straswa 5 років тому +1

    10 years later and such writing is still unsurpassed. 7:06 SAVAGE

  • @davidanderson9524
    @davidanderson9524 10 років тому +3

    Ok, in the ACTUAL game, she just hits the Exile with Death Field until he/she collapses

    • @jackson12ten85
      @jackson12ten85 6 років тому +2

      That’s probably without the TSLRCM. Her stabbing her self is more powerful and shocking

  • @masterskywalker73
    @masterskywalker73 14 років тому +1

    Love the cut content - thanks so much for posting. Kreia's my all time favorite SW KOTOR character.

  • @Death-jl1cv
    @Death-jl1cv 2 роки тому +5

    Kreia is the reason why Kotor 2 is > Kotor 1

  • @ReaperWAM
    @ReaperWAM 11 років тому +1

    This is what I love about Kotor 1 and 2. The conversations, real conversations, but now in most rpg games you only get a few lines of dialogue.