The Jedi Exile: A Complete Biography | Manda-LORE

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  • Опубліковано 30 лис 2021
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    Star Wars: The New Essential Chronology
    Star Wars: The Essential Atlas
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  • @youngjedi8963
    @youngjedi8963 2 роки тому +48

    While I liked KOTOR 1, KOTOR 2 is just simply one of if not my favorite work of fiction. It's everything you would want in a sequel, yet it doesn't feel like one. You are not playing as Revan, you are playing as someone else entirely with whom the only connection shared is being part of the same order in a period of time. Yet it enhances the story of the first game in unorthodox ways and has riveting dialogue and takes on power, corruption, and allegiance. It also subtly touches on the butterfly effect. I mean I know I'm getting long winded but I CANNOT stress how much I love KOTOR II. It was the only thing on my mind while I was playing through it, and the weeks after. Fantastic work of art. . . And to think it was still so good even unfinished

    • @michaelblower7363
      @michaelblower7363 Рік тому +2

      Chris Avellone is definitely up there with Timothy Zhan (the creator of Thrawn). :-D

  • @darthprime1990
    @darthprime1990 2 роки тому +67

    Meetra and Revan's stories were pretty tragic in a way. They could've stopped Vitiate in any other way, had Scourge not double-crossed them despite him having a vision. Thankfully, we got to see Revan and Meetra Surik involved in the final defeat of the Sith Emperor. This not only felt like a love letter, but also an apology to fans about their fates.

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 2 роки тому +16

      Yeah it's Tragic that Drew K was allowed to shit all over Kotor 2 by completely ignoring Surik's experience with Nihilus.

    • @michaelblower7363
      @michaelblower7363 Рік тому +3

      Agreed, Revan and Meetra seemed the best suited to defeat Vitiate. Since she had a similar power to Nihilus.

    • @vetarlittorf1807
      @vetarlittorf1807 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@DIEGhostfishI don't think he did. He wasn't given complete creative freedom and most of the book was ruined in the editing.

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 9 місяців тому

      @@vetarlittorf1807 It's pretty well known he didn't like KotOR2

    • @vetarlittorf1807
      @vetarlittorf1807 9 місяців тому +1

      @@DIEGhostfish No it isn't. That's a lie spread by haters. He said he didn't play it, not that he hated it.

  • @OhOh996
    @OhOh996 2 роки тому +19

    *"In time's past and in time's future, there are Jedi who will stop listening to the Force, those who will try to forget it, but maintain unconscious ties. And those, as in the past just as a I, who have had the Force stripped from them. But no Jedi ever made the choice you did. To sever ties so completely, so utterly, that it leaves a Wound in the Force "* - Kreia
    For me, the Jedi Exile and KOTOR 2 will always have a special place in my heart. Thank you to the writers who wrote such an amazing story.

  • @jakobrenner2230
    @jakobrenner2230 2 роки тому +58

    Great character. A shame that she was underused compared to Revan (looking at you Revan Novel), but the story of KotOR 2 remains one of the best nevertheless.

    • @kathleendelcourt8136
      @kathleendelcourt8136 Рік тому +7

      It's just Bioware not wanting to acknowledge a character created by another studio. Revan has become a major character in the old republic lore, and they reduced Meetra to a footnote.

  • @OptimusMaximusNero
    @OptimusMaximusNero 2 роки тому +26

    Meetra and Atton's relationship is one of the most underrated and tragic in all Star Wars (specially considering the lost ending in which he declares his love for the Exile just before dying)

  • @bionic-tale4313
    @bionic-tale4313 2 роки тому +72

    KOTOR 2's story is basically what the last jedi could've adopted had it was written well and not insulting the Original trilogy or the whole saga for the sake of nostalgia.

    • @michaelblower7363
      @michaelblower7363 Рік тому +3

      Luke as a Kreia-type could have worked I guess. Travelling with Rey, looking for the rest of the Jedi.

    • @aronthedev3074
      @aronthedev3074 10 місяців тому +2

      Yep...picking up companions like Finn and Poe, training them to become the next generation of Jedi. I think there were hints of this in TFA- Finn using the lightsaber, and maybe Poe being such a good pilot was because he was Force sensitive. Too bad it was all squandered in TLJ.

    • @hailervin
      @hailervin 10 місяців тому

      Yep boomers ruined it by bitching to Disney about the last Jedi being "not sTAR Wars" and "Feminist" and other stupid shit. Seriouslu the last Jedi had a potentially awesome storyline setting up and the Rise of Skywalker fucked it up because boomer fans were being trash old heads as usual

    • @Nothings_Shore
      @Nothings_Shore 5 місяців тому

      You dare to speak such heresy?! If they even think about touching my beloved old republic there will consequences 🫥

    • @barnowl2655
      @barnowl2655 2 місяці тому

      Meetra is what Disney wishes Rey was.

  • @inventorking9124
    @inventorking9124 2 роки тому +43

    Kreia didn't kill the Jedi Masters with Force lightning, she stripped their connection to the Force. The shock is what killed them. I mean, if you kill them in the game, she literally says "I didn't want the Jedi dead. Defeated, perhaps."

    • @Manda-LORE
      @Manda-LORE  2 роки тому +18

      In my defense, out of all the gameplay footage I watched for research, I don't recall it being explained what she was actually doing, it looked like she was zapping them to me. Oh well, a mistake on my part.

    • @inventorking9124
      @inventorking9124 2 роки тому +12

      ​@@Manda-LORE Limitations of the graphics, I guess. Overall, though good video! KOTOR II is one of my favorite star wars stories and my favorite video game, and I think you did a good job. The way the Exile was handled in SWTOR always bothered me, though. Love the MMO's story, but I'm frustrated that it largely disregards KOTOR II.

  • @frankheninja1
    @frankheninja1 2 роки тому +11

    Revan being kept in centuries-long torturous stasis is the best metaphor for SWTOR’s treatment of the character, tbh.

  • @Takeda10K
    @Takeda10K 2 роки тому +7

    *Huge sniff* Smell that? That’s the smell of quality Star Wars lore content.

    • @henrypaleveda7760
      @henrypaleveda7760 2 роки тому +1

      I love the smell of -victory- quality star wars content in the morning

  • @OptimusMaximusNero
    @OptimusMaximusNero 2 роки тому +32

    Nihilus: *Feeds himself by devouring the life force of all planets*
    Also Nihilus: *Gets quickly defeated by a Jedi who was rediscovering her powers*
    Visas: "How the hell could you beat him so easily, master?!"
    Meetra: "We are in a video-game, Visas. Do not try to find any logic here"
    Visas: "B-But ..."
    Meetra: "Could you please pick up his mask? Atton will love seeing me wearing it the next time we bang in the hyperdrive room"

    • @articusramos808
      @articusramos808 2 роки тому +8

      Madalore: Don't worry about the details, revan was like this too. Gotten some good laughs too. HK and t3 will tell you more.

    • @giosbizarreart9048
      @giosbizarreart9048 2 роки тому +16

      Due to meetra being a wound in the force nihilus couldn’t absorb her life energy so meetra basically absorbed his force energy instead like reverse uno card

    • @tom1921
      @tom1921 4 місяці тому +1

      The Exile's force wound drained Nihilus of his power.

  • @justanotherschmuck4149
    @justanotherschmuck4149 2 роки тому +4

    "Honey, wake up. Manda-LORE just dropped a new video!"

  • @themissingpeace7956
    @themissingpeace7956 Рік тому +4

    Keanu Reeves was born to be Revan, let's goooooo

  • @AdrianoxLive
    @AdrianoxLive 3 місяці тому

    16:47 Palpatine: SHE DId WHAT?!?!?!

  • @thebrowneyesofmandalore
    @thebrowneyesofmandalore Рік тому +2

    This was a great video! Kotor 2 and Meetra Surik are some of my favorite Star Wars content. I always found the story to be very sad what with Meetra’s struggle and everything she faced. I wish Disney would just open their eyes to the Old Republic and make a movie out of it Without dramatic changes to a totally sufficient story!

  • @noahfessenden6478
    @noahfessenden6478 2 роки тому +8

    The only thing I feel that needs to be corrected here is that Kavar didn't actually fight in the Mandalorian Wars. He was close to, but decided to heed to Council's wishes in the end. Otherwise, another good video Tadd.

    • @Manda-LORE
      @Manda-LORE  2 роки тому +5

      Just going off of what it said in the wizards of the coast Old Republic Campaign Guide

    • @noahfessenden6478
      @noahfessenden6478 2 роки тому +7

      @@Manda-LORE Ah, that would explain things. No offense meant.

  • @rc59191
    @rc59191 2 роки тому +4

    About a quarter way through the game I thought I was playing as Revan lol.

  • @LibriDocs
    @LibriDocs 2 роки тому +3

    Another excellent video.

  • @independentscope6470
    @independentscope6470 2 роки тому +6

    Good job Mandalore Tad Larkins I have three requests for you I want you to do and origins of Darth Sidious Emperor Palpatine I also want you to do one with Count Dooku and a real story of Master cypher Diaz

  • @liamlinson7563
    @liamlinson7563 2 роки тому +8

    swtor really fucked this character over

  • @silvertemplar8061
    @silvertemplar8061 2 роки тому +1

    I really like this his video, I have to see it through to the end.

  • @samwilson2250
    @samwilson2250 2 роки тому +4

    Another great vid tad. Even if I know most of the lore it's still nice to be able to find a detailed yet brief version of the lore. Also I'd like to get your thoughts on something. I know your not a "what if/theory" channel, but watching your playthrough of the rise of the mandalorians on empire at war I have to ask. What if Fenn shysa decided after feeding the mandalore sector from Miltan Takle began taking other imperial world's and conscripting willing people into the culture? Much like what they did in the mandalorian wars.

  • @professionalpussypetter2929
    @professionalpussypetter2929 2 роки тому +3

    Comment for the algore rhythm

  • @anon-yw4wd
    @anon-yw4wd 11 місяців тому +2

    Sad feels for no true KOTOR 3. 😶😶😶

    • @ibmm3358
      @ibmm3358 9 місяців тому

      The Revan novel bro 🙂

  • @ProjectRedfoot
    @ProjectRedfoot 2 роки тому +1

    I like this. This is right up my alley

  • @Lr.Laecro.Lirus3445
    @Lr.Laecro.Lirus3445 Рік тому +2

    22:00 Video could've also just ended right then and there.

  • @TheEmpireAnimations
    @TheEmpireAnimations Рік тому +2

    My nickname is thawk and i named my charackter hawk and not knowing I though the game named the ship ebon hawk because i named him hawk but the actual name was ebon hawk my mind is blown 🤯🤯

  • @EspoVenNahive
    @EspoVenNahive Рік тому +1

    I don't suppose you could do a video on the Miraluka people?
    They've always been my favorite species. Albeit i'll admit that I don't know if they were in legends at all. Information regarding their culture, famous people (other than Visas), and such is extremely hard for me to find.
    What you think?

    • @Manda-LORE
      @Manda-LORE  Рік тому +3

      I can totally do a video on Miraluka. They were first introduced in the 90s with Inquisitor Jerec so they're definitely in legends

    • @EspoVenNahive
      @EspoVenNahive Рік тому

      @@Manda-LORE you're the man!

  • @yospidey0078
    @yospidey0078 Рік тому +1

    2:05 *their side

  • @independentscope6470
    @independentscope6470 2 роки тому

    Also don't forget Darth Bane

  • @ibmm3358
    @ibmm3358 9 місяців тому

    Do you considered the TSLRCM to be "canon"?

  • @yospidey0078
    @yospidey0078 Рік тому +1

    I guess you prefer male Revan? I am surprised you included SWTOR in this since some don’t like what they did with the characters. Some would say it is as damaging as TCW was to CWMMP.

    • @Manda-LORE
      @Manda-LORE  Рік тому +2

      Personally, I don't really have a preference either way, I've played both. The essential guides and other source books have the male revan as the canonical one as well as the female exile for KOTORII but I know a lot of fans prefer it the other way around.
      As for SWTOR, I dont know about the newer expansions in the past 2-3 years or so but the early SWTOR retcons, at least, don't seem to be nearly as damaging as half the TCW retcons. Moving the discovery of the hydian way up a thousand years doesnt hurt much and having Lord Hoth be named after the planet verses the other way around like it was originally, was explained well enough in the Essential Guide To Warfare. Like i said, if theres more recent retcons, I'm not really aware of them. I have heard though that the recent expansions have taken alot of "liberties" with the lore.

    • @yospidey0078
      @yospidey0078 Рік тому +2

      @@Manda-LORE oh okay I get where you are coming from. Great video anyways.

  • @bdg123190
    @bdg123190 2 роки тому

    Is it Canon that Colonel Tobin was executed by firing squad? I thought he was just imprisoned.

  • @lctrcgblts
    @lctrcgblts Місяць тому +2

    to me everything after the end of kotor2 is non-canon. justice for meetra and t3

  • @nathan1507
    @nathan1507 10 місяців тому

    She single handedly beat three Sith lords and they turned him into a Revan fangirl in SWTOR. On top of that her crimes on Malachor is no longer canon. Shame.

  • @therevahchist2790
    @therevahchist2790 2 роки тому +2

    I'll say it. The exile should canonically be a man.

    • @henrypaleveda7760
      @henrypaleveda7760 2 роки тому +3

      no need one way or the other, but it is a sick name

    • @giosbizarreart9048
      @giosbizarreart9048 2 роки тому +1

      Nah there’s enough dudes lmaooo

    • @PersonVoid
      @PersonVoid 2 роки тому

      The Exile should be a transwoman

    • @maleexile9053
      @maleexile9053 2 роки тому +1

      Woah woah Im not trans and yes I am superior

  • @lisawillis699
    @lisawillis699 8 місяців тому

    I already call bs on this video within the first 2 minutes. Kavar didn't fight in the Mandolorian wars. Meetra Surik did.

    • @Manda-LORE
      @Manda-LORE  8 місяців тому

      The knights of the old republic campaign guide by wizzards of the coast seemed to indicate that he did. Sources are in the description.

    • @Manda-LORE
      @Manda-LORE  8 місяців тому

      Re-looking through the KOTOR campaign guide from WOTC, it seems worded weirdly in the blurb about Meetra's backstory which most likely lead to my confusion. Rest assured that if/when I do a video on Kavar specifically, I'll be sure to rectify the issue...

  • @FlyingKlutchKick
    @FlyingKlutchKick 5 місяців тому

    How do you mess up so many pronunciations despite having so much source material lmfao Jesus