Kreia Predicts the Future (Dark Side)
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- Опубліковано 3 гру 2019
- Kreia predicts the future of the galaxy based on the Exile choosing alternative options throughout her journey.
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This may be one of the only scenes in any fictional media where a character who can tell the future isn't super vague about what events will transpire. Kreia is literally just explaining what is going to happen.
That's because it's the end of the game and this serves as the conclusion of various subplots. If it were in the early part of the story it would be cryptic in order to not spoil the story so to speak.
I mean even her describing men wearing Mandalorian armor who are too easily slain (3:36) was a perfect prediction of Jango Fett's death.
@@ZacElCapitan this game came out after episode II
@@Loganjlr Kotor predates the original trilogy
@@MileenasDentist Tf no, KOTOR predates only maybe Revenge of the Sith, KOTOR 2 is after it I believe.
I like the fact that not all darkside planetary endings are bad
Yeah, i feel like onderons fate was actually better than the light sude ending
Dantooine's dark side ending seems to make more sense for the original trilogy -it is just an old, jedi relic world, that the rebels makes a ase on. Eventually abandoning it ao the Empire won't find them.
The planetary darkside endings I like are Tilos and Onderon. They serve as a way to show us the true meaning of balance.
@@VaciliNikoMavich what?
@@larniieplayz6285 In episode 4, the rebels had a base on Dantooine that they abandoned. Princess Leia tells Vader and Tarken about it (after it is abandoned) so that they won't destroy Aalderan. I think what he's saying is that the dark side ending for Dantooine fits this more. Instead of a thriving community honoring the memory of the Jedi enclave, it's a place of hermits and nomads. A place where an ancient Jedi relic once stood, long abandoned and forgotten. A place the rebels used as a decoy to hide their real base.
I remember being so hyped for KOTOR 3 as soon as I finished KOTOR 2 in 04/05.
15 year old me was like “yeah, I’m going to go and fight with Revan and destroy the real Sith!!!” 31 year old me is still waiting :(
Man, I hate how SWTOR handles that
A KOTOR 3 with the exile and Revan fighting the Sith in the line of Marka Ragnos, Tulak Hord, etc still needs to be written by someone competent. I dont care if its not Canon, and I dont care if it is a book, comic series, show, or game. I just need that story, and not the SWTOR version.
@@90thomasmercer In addition, I don't like how the Revan book brainwashed Revan and Malak turning them into sith lords. The KOTOR games handled it well by them falling during the wars and Malachor being the final push.
I'm waiting as well. KOTOR 3 must be completed.
@@90thomasmercer AMEN brother! Idc if it's Bioware, Obsidian, EA or Disney, they must create a KOTOR 3 exactly as you said.
Wow, never seen the Dark Side version of this scene before. I found the different fates for the planets to be very interesting. They were different in many ways from the light side, but most of them were not necessarily bad.
I really like how Canderous's fate doesn't change, no matter what you do. Such is Revan's influence.
True - for me, i prefer DS fate of Telos and Onderon more than LS.
Which makes sense since he’s one of the few characters where you cannot influence his alignment. He always stays on the dark side.
@@24pagedown I'm fairly sure you can. The last time I played, I did a charisma build and got Canderous to the light side in just two influence gains. Granted, I was running the restored content mod, so that might have broke it.
Side note: Charisma is busted as hell.
Because Revan looks like a tall guy with black hair, and bleeding scars from stupid masks that come with stupid capes. Surik (as a man) is a bald-headed, yet overly brilliant swordsman. Very humble (not like a Gand), near-superhuman, killed many (such as Nihilus, Sion, Vaklu, Azkul, etc), although he doesn’t like to talk about it.
I love hearing the sorrow in Kreia's voice when saying the Mandalorians will devolve into Jango Fett. Makes you realize how far they actually fell compared to how they were in KOTOR.
She didn’t even say that sped
@@SugarCaine1 ?...she did, she just spoke it in such a noble way that you can't understand "sped"
KOTOR Mandalorians are on the level of Space Marines. By the end of the Legends timeline, they're easily taken out by Stormtroopers.
@@HolyknightVader999 but stormtroopers in legends is not Disney stormtrooper who can't make one step aside from giant rock. Regular (not elite) stormtroopers are pretty good soldiers in legends, not slaughter machines, but good troops.
@@user-ny8gk8yo3f Legends Stormtroopers are the same as OT Stormtroopers who only miss when told to.
Oh shit. I just realized... Dark Side Mira basically becomes like Hanharr.
As obi wan would say: you become the very thing you swore to destroy
Right before my Hanharr died, he acted like Mira by saving Surik.
@@theblade1251
Precisely
Kreia doesn’t give herself enough credit.
She doesn’t crave such.... titles
@@Ghidorah96 lol
Dude if they did a live action, she would be next to Sidious
@@gyiregory8507
Kreia would look down on Palpatine with undisguised contempt while Palpatine fearfully plots tae kill her.
Kreia: EA will partner with Disney and make all previous Star Wars games not canon. They will also attempt to make 2 new games that everyone hated, one even more so as it is filled with more evil than any Sith Lord could imagine. However, there shall be one game that will be accepted. It will confuse everyone as it is a good game, despite being made by the same evil company. Do not let your eyes fool you. For they are still more evil and corrupt than any Sith I have ever known.
@Mocita Truth
Battlefront 2 is good now, really try it. They redeemed themselves in my opinion
Yeah but Fallen Order and Battlefront 2 are really good. Some of the best Star Wars games.
@@Golompwkapciu *After humiliating and destroying Luke Skywalker?*
What good game that linear jedi story where you don't use force lightning force choke or any of the cool force moves And have absolutely no decision or duality between light and dark like the whole series was built around...nah I'll pass kira and play kotor 1 and 2 as my only star wars games
Kirea literally read Jango Fett from thousands of years before his birth legendary.
Kiera: mace window trying to kill you!
Jango fatt: l didn't believe you!
Later jango fatt killed by mace
What Kreia said is true all along, no matter canon or non-canon it will always be true.
The Republic will always fall as it always been:
Star Wars: The Old Republic - Return of the Sith Empire and Darth Malgus's Invasion on Coruscant
Star Wars: Prequel trilogy - Darth Sidious orchestrating a proxy war, Order 66, and revival of the Empire
Star Wars: Sequel trilogy - The First Order successfully destroyed Hosnian Prime and two other Republic controlled planets and majority of the New Republic fleet with Starkiller base
The Mandalorians will be reduced from a great warrior empire to a culture dependent on code and traditions
Star Wars: The Clone Wars - Death of Duchess Satine of Mandalore, The Great Purge event
Star Wars: Original trilogy - the rare existence of Mandalorian bounty hunters
Current state - The Mandalorian TV series
A tv show in which Mandalorian focuses on armor and weapons and has forgotten the legacy that granted his people so much glory in the past. A poor example of a true Mandalorian.
Barone 888 sounds like a fallen culture to me
@@theblazingcrusader6322 Not a perfect one but a culture that had its positive moments and ideals. THEY should have explored their story.
Her predictions only fit for the legends timeline so no Disney star wars really fits those prophecies
Lior Papismedov what do you call Order 66? Canon, she was correct
What do you call the Mandalorian, Clone Wars and Rebels TV shows? Canon
She was correct, some things she was referencing are now non canon yes but at the same time there is nothing saying they didn’t happen besides Disney
I follow the idea that if it goes against the new canon then it’s not canon, but if there’s nothing explicitly saying it didn’t happen, then it happened
The only time I don’t follow this is with Luke Skywalker, Ben, and everyone else
Fuck the sequel trilogy, it ain’t canon mate
Every time I have a question I want to ask about Kreia, I hear her voice in my head saying “Then you have learned nothing”.
"You have failed me, Exile. Completely and utterly."
Kreia may be the interesting character in Star Wars.
Sara Krestleman must be proud of her work on this game.
Any other noteworthy roles she has under her resume? I really need to see more of her performances?
@@sambridgers9543 She's more of a classical theater actress.
@@sambridgers9543 Zardoz
@@sambridgers9543 - "So What?" from Cabaret. She also voiced the audiobook "The Mill on the Floss".
Sam Bridgers She was Teresa in fable two but that performance is nothing like this one
She's gotta be one of the most well written characters in Star Wars
In my opinion she is.
You can thank Chris Avelonne for that :) he is really talented game story writer.
I hated her when I played at the age of 14, I knew she was manipulating me. Replaying it now ohhh how I love her. She is the best imo.
"A wraith, leading a soulless army, will add our lightsabers to his collection. In the end, all lightsabers belong to him." -Kreia
When did she say this and in reference to what?
@@malachiphoniex8501 I don't know whether Kreia actually said this or not, but it's a clear reference to General Grievous, who killed Jedi and collected their lightsabers to add to his collection during the Clone Wars era. The soulless army refers to all the droids under his command, although he led living, breathing troops as well. Most of them were droids, though.
General grievous
My god, 2019 and still epic as hell!!! Kreia, Darth Nihilus, Darth Sion, Revan, Bastila...! So much potential. Imagine a movie or tv series with those characters...! Or, at least give us KOTOR 3!
Never from disney
closest to kotor 3 you're ever gonna get it the MMO
@@shinra6913 *Then that's the same as not having KotoR 3.*
@@DanSlotea
Hopefully the saga after the Skywalkers is the revan saga
Yep Korriban from the Kotor to Legacy era pretty much stays the same.
It is currently
Real Kreia hours
WHO UP
Up and high
Sara kestelman is phenomenal. I really hope that they cast her as kreia if ever they do a kotor movie or TV series.
KOTOR and KOTOR 2 are the only times I've ever cared about Star Wars lore. It's the only Star Wars medium that seems to go beyond "good vs evil, light side vs dark". Kreia hates The Force, but also uses it as a means to an end and dismisses those weak in The Force. She views it as a sentient & uncaring god, forcing destiny onto people. This is why she loves The Exile, because The Exile was able to sever herself from The Force and live. She sees The Exile as the way to defy fate.
It's also quite funny how she seems to mock Atton at every opportunity, and I think it's because Atton resembles her in some ways and she doesn't like it. Atton hates the Jedi Order, is a strong believer in self-reliance, has a talent for hiding his past and true intentions (which is why he was so effective at killing Jedi). Sound familiar?
This is a solid theory about why Kreia doesn’t like him. I suppose I never really noticed it before. While Atton is a ‘fool’ compared to Kreia, the similarities are undeniably there. Good observation.
It's not the only time star wars went beyond light vs dark, but it is one of the most mainstream times.
@@DatAsuna true theirs alot of those moments in legends
This is how the actual future played out:
Telos will forget the destruction that was brought upon it. The planet will spring back to life, only to be consumed by the stinking pollution of industrialisation.
Onderon will ally itself with the Republic, but once again will be on the forefront of a war brought forth by foreign powers.
Dantooine's history will be forgotten, but in due time, those that fight for all that is good will once again call this place their home.
Nar Shaddaa shall be as it always has been: a refuge for the lawless, the outcasts and the Hutts.
Korriban... Those that know of its existence will keep it a secret. But it will remain unchanged and unknown to the galaxy.
And Malachor? It's stories will survive as Legends, where a battle between good and evil saw the devastation of both.
Disciple ... you're a Palpatine.
Oh god
Hahahaah YES
... Dyad
Kathleen Kennedy
Surik is basically a Force-sensitive Tarkin, who blew up Alderaan.
Punish for being human.
Fucking hell, that phrase, no matter how many times I have heard it, gives me the chills. Sick.
Interesting how the dark side ending could just as easily be the canon ending
I guess it’s the storytelling freedom that comes with the fact that this is set like 3000 years before the Phantom menace. Even if things go to shit with the sith winning. A lot can happen in 3000 years
I saw someone say the Light Side ending can lead to the EU Canon and said that the Dark Side ending can lead to Disney Canon.
Thanks for making videos like this. The KOTOR community is amazing and that is mainly because of content creators like you
Thanks man. It's a great game. An important game if you ask me. It should be preserved.
@@PapitoQinn Make a time capsule and bury it with this game in it. There's no guarantee we'll be able to keep things like this around.
Kreia, and Jolee are the best Characters in recent fiction! Kreia for her incredibly real life translatable life lessons, and Jolee for his lack of giving a shit & crazy comedic value!
Bogart Gaming & Tech
Yes yes and yes
Hk-47
5:19 This is one of the best lines in Star Wars ever will we ever get quote like this again?
I don't know but why, although i played the game more than 10 time through and you still show me some new dialoge, I love it
so you play the game the same for 10 times?
@@MrWeenuk21 Kind of, I guess? :D
@@MrWeenuk21 Pretty sure I did 10 times or somewhere along those numbers.
That game has an amazing replay value that most game nowadays can't get unless its an online game.
This game had many dialogs, builds, choices, concecuences...
Imma go play it again wtf
Your knowledge of Legends is impeccable
Really wish there was a movie. A non-Disney version.
It would anger about 80 % Of KOTOR 2 fans because it wouldn't be their Exile and they'd cut too much content.
A series would explore much more than a movie.
Kotor 2 is better as a game. It's the hole it was made for.
@Gus Gang
Try the Loganverse and Darth Ycey. They are your best bet.
@@KCCOmug *What are you talking about? He said NON-Disney version - everyone (with a brain) would be happy then.*
that was one thing i really liked about kotor 2 and just about the only thing i liked about peragus, being able to choose revan's alignment and gender to match your character from the previous game and then having that choice referenced
When she says "The true sith rules elsewhere" I can't help but hear "Elsweyr" and then giggle when imagining all the sith as cat people.
Funny how accurate her visions are, the fall of the Mandalorians is perhaps the dramatic & the most intense, as it shows them losing their identities until they either became either honourable mercenaries who fight for a just cause or thugs for hire with no morals, this would be best seen with Jaster Mareel, Mandalore the Reformer who created the Super Commando Codex and his True Mandalorian, their battles in the Mandalorian Civil War against their polar opposite seen in Death Watch, Jango Fett, Jaster's adoptive son, would indeed something of the last of Mandalorians as he had lost everything thanks to the backstabbing of the Sith & Death Watch.
The Jedi having inner fracturing, the changes on planetary & systems, culture and identity is another one, but it requires a more in-depth look, the Jedi & Republic would struggle during and following the Cold War, Second Sith Wars & War against the Eternal Empire, The Sith would rise and fall only to be remade by Darth Bane, the second Sith'ary, Onderon's fate would be one of turmoil and strife,
Alexandar von Carstein Zarovich Excellent
5:32 “What you have taught yourself must not be allowed to die... oh btw go find Revan so you can get stabbed in the back”
Reven's light side ending is Canon, so his days of back stabbing are over technically.
Awesome work man! I’ll start sharing right away.
Thanks, Frank!
I like the mandalorian music you added when talking about Mandalore
Thanks, I like it too. Although I may have made it too quiet.
Papito Qinn
Nah I think it was loud enough. You don’t want it to be too loud so it’s hard to hear what Kreia was saying
What is the song?
@@hnlong8531
Part of gra'tua cuun from Star Wars Republic Commando I believe.
@@armaan1091 thanks 👍
A young girl will start her journey, first the child of sombody's, then the child of nobody's, then the granddaughter of a Sith Lord. Despite having little to no training she will perform feats that put others to shame. A great divide will follow her, rending an entire galaxy apart
"Aww yeah... It's all coming together" MEME INTENSIFIES*
I don't get the reference can someone explain?
Silent Shadow Rey. It was pretty clear.
That fucking Mary Sue.
Is this true ?
The environmentalist in me always compels me to side with the Ithorians, but I admit I like the fate of Telos if you side with Czerka.
The dark side fate of Nar Shaddaa is the only one that makes sense, because in both the Legends continuity and the Disney canon Nar Shaddaa is a perpetual cesspool of crime and misery.
Both the light side and dark side fates of Dantooine are valid, because wether you side with the settlers or the mercenaries the Jedi enclave will always remain an abandoned ruin.
Unlike many here I always side with Queen Talia, my reasoning being to unite the known worlds of the Galaxy under one banner against the threat from the Unknown Regions, just as Revan intended.
As for my companions, I find it curious that in the light side ending Kreia will refuse to tell you what becomes of Atton, but in the dark side ending she tells you without hesitation. He becomes a Sith assassin.
I prefer the Disciple's dark side fate where he becomes a successful politician who greatly improves the standing of the planet he represents.
Bruh.
It's a real deal bruh moment HK
Statement: Bruh.
@@phyre596 ^This
@@phyre596 Was thinking this lol
I been thinking for a bit but I been imaging a character like Kreia in the next saga as the main antagonist but instead of wanting to destroy the force for perceiving it as evil but would want to see it balanced at least to end the constant warring of the Jedi and the Sith.
They would manipulate the Jedi and Sith protagonist into being their pawns. Another thing I thought for this character was for them to have the memories of the masters who passed this philosophy down to each person they trusted to be the next teacher of their beliefs.
gunfighter you do realise that you gave a better story idea than the current directors of Star Wars, right?
That would be really cool it would be the like the Canon version of keria even though she wouldn’t have the same name and her philosophy would be slightly different but that sounds like a very interesting Star Wars movie maybe a series? I feel like a Star Wars story in which there’s someone manipulating both sides would have to last longer than one, two hour movie, and she couldbasically be like the Darth sedious of the gray Jedi or not even gray at all just someone who is a powerful force user and has extensive knowledge and first hand experience of dealing with and even may have been a Jedi and or a Sith at some point and has studied the code of each very carefully and sees that neither side is right or true and that they must be destroyed because of how flawed they are and these flawed teachings have gone on for long enough... yeah I like the way this sounds... probably because it’s just KOTOR 2 lol
GinoMarks Yeah I also thought this character would hold not hatred of the Jedi but a great amount of distrust because I heard in the legends history the Jedi have destroyed or conquered other light or gray aligned orders and how they would rather hold knowledge instead of sharing it with the galaxy.
The character would understand trying to prevent dangerous knowledge from falling into the wrong hands but selfishly preserving them because certain things go against your beliefs or not allowing those deemed too dangerous to go through challenges or sacrifice to learn is foolish. When seekers see the things that must pay or go through for their knowledge they crave maybe it’ll change them for the better about what they do, reinforce them into a stronger person, or embed them to their beliefs.
The fact the Jedi hides knowledge and would prevent others from learning certain things they would see as hypocritical because at least with the Sith it’s expected to fight each other m, steal one, or destroy another secrets for strong thing yourself which they do view has foolish but sensible. The Jedi however has more of a history of destroying things that could be great teachings to future generations which they deem to be even more foolish.
gunfighter now see that would be a very interesting and mature and different take on Star Wars, fan fic or not that just sounds good pre-Disney Star Wars was getting to a point ware like KOTOR 2 it was challenging what you believe in and exposing the Jedi and showing you that they’re not as high and mighty as they think they are and also that the Sith are not as evil as you think they are that it’s not a battle of good versus evil it’s a battle of belief what do you believe in how do you think the force should be used what are your views on the galaxy? as a matter of fact I remember a line where the exile says “this was never about power it was about belief”
Disney really should make something like this something that would blur the lines between good and evil Jedi and Sith and shows you that it really is just different philosophies and then someone in the middle showing both philosophies that they are not the only and true way that they think they are. stories like the exar kun arc Kotor 2 force unleashed ravens arc anakins story qui-gon being viewed as a gray just because he didn’t blindly fallow the Council he had he’s own beliefs and opinions. These are all really good story arcs you get to see the fine details of how each order operates. But I really feel like Disney wouldn’t make something like this
It’s too thought provoking it’ll ruin the image of “Jedi good sith bad” and with them in charge a lot of kids have come to Star Wars and they have to uphold that image and that picture of “good always wins” they won’t make something that complicated and deep. But either way your on to something dude and just know that you’re not alone in wanting something more complicated and mature from Star Wars
An amazing character. Very well written. Changed how we view the force and Star Wars itself
It was so strange for me to come to KOTOR after playing the Jedi Knight series. Nar Shaddaa and Korriban looked so different back then!
(Yes, yes, I know the real reason is because different development teams worked on the games and designed the planets differently, but my head canon says 4000 years can change things drastically.)
Hey thanks for making this :) really appreciate it. I love KOTOR but really don't have the time to play it. These videos allow me to enjoy it in the little time I have! Thanks :) liked and subbed.
Glad to hear that man. Time is indeed our most valuable resource. I'm glad that I'm giving more people a chance to experience this amazing story.
Kreia sees the Prequels, she is from the legend's pre pre pre prequels.
Yes
I could listen to her voice all day and never lose interest
Interesting that Kreia could see the future here. She tried to end the guiding will of the force but ended up accepting its inevitability.
Well done
That Republic Commando soundtrack playing when Kreia talks about Mandalore 👍
Made the hair stand up on my neck, mate
Yes i been waiting to see this the hype is real lol love you all
Kinda interesting that a lot of this can still work with the new canon, even the Sith in the unknown regions with Exegol
“And do battle at the end of all things...” I really want to see what that is
I always get goosebumps any time I hear Vode An
Kreia can only be done by Sarah Kestelman. Chris Avellone might of wrote her but Sarah brought Kreia to life.
Btw sorry I've been missing your live streams man, I've been busy during that time but I'm glad to see you still doing what you want to do and getting to over 4k subs. Keep it up.
Thanks, Tori. And don't worry about it. We all gotta do what we gotta do.
@@PapitoQinn question how did you achieve visas and nar shadda dark side future. I did a dark side playthrough but I never achieved it?
@@CryonicCy Well, I didn't kill her. And she was dark side when I brought her back to her chamber on the Ravager.
@@PapitoQinn what about nar shadda dark side future?
The writing is equally as important as giving a great performance and BOTH delivered on both fronts.
This is just GOLD and I am afraid we will probably never get another great thing like KOTOR 2..
Visas Marr was my romantic interest, the only one on any games that had intriguing personality, and Kreia.
KOTOR 2 had the most beatiful Jedi story I ever had, not to mention the music.
I don't need these new movies. You can keep them.
The music lined up with the Handmaiden's fate flawlessly.
Thanks, I do my best to use the music to full effect.
1:20 made all the more interesting with Episode 5 of The Mandalorian....
Bioware may have set a precedent with the first game but my god the team at obsidian hit a freaking home run with KOTOR 2. Kreia takes everything we know about the force and gives us a new perspective about it. It's honestly what Ryan Johnson said he would do except obsidian actually knew what they were doing and they were smart and careful about how they approached it.
Obsidian had a reputation back then of elevating franchises. First with Neverwinter Nights 2, then KoTOR 2, and then New vegas.
@@PapitoQinn let's just hope they can do as well now with their sequel to outer worlds and that elder scrolls esque game they're making.
@@Darth234Ravenous Fingers crossed. Microsoft is backing them. That could be a double edged sword.
@@PapitoQinn I have to ask. Well that game be Xbox exclusive or is it going to be multi-platform with exclusive content for the Xbox?
@@Darth234Ravenous No idea. We have to wait and see.
You know that's what i like about Star Wars. The franchise/universe is so massive that its all connected and really makes this the longest running Sci Fi franchise next to Star Trek and Doctor Who. It don't matter whether its canon or Legends the stories were just amazing whether its the movie side, tv side, gaming side, comic side, or novel side of Star Wars.
I think the best decisions for the planets are pretty varied, Onderon being strong and independant throughout the rebirth and inevitable fall of the republic being the best example, making Vaaklu a king that has a short rule but with long lasting consequences. whilst dantooine is stabilized by helping the settlers instead of a mercenary infested husk, Nar Shadaa being given a chance at hope and having a heart, and Telos growing strong through Czerka's cold and meticulous efficiency, rather then being another victim of wars yet to come.
For me, these are the best choices too.
My favourite "DS" endings are Telos, because the people there won't forget the planet's first attack, Onderon, because people there are going to remain loyal to what makes them, well, them, and Visas, because we can't live in the past forever.
What are your favourite darkside endings ?
Telos and Onderon you stated my reasons already
Light side version soon? Great video
davidtburr all his other versions of this were the light side version. Just look up more of his videos and you’ll find it
Kirklord2 thank you
4,000 years later. Jedi Master Pong Krell during the clone wars would have the same vision of the fall of the Republic, but also a vision of the fall of the Jedi Order as well. the clones wouldn't understand this: but Pong Krell would.
Interesting how some darkside paths can be good. But mostly it is really ad what happens to them.
I love the Mandalorian theme
Kreia is without a doubt the best female character in Star Wars. So of course Disney made her non-canon.
And introduced miss Mary sue the talented
@@orsonlepherd7064 "Because she's awesome!"
... Nope, couldn't keep a straight face... XD
Least we have Rose Tico. Holdo, Rey and many more.
@@Ytomany Yay, we trade good characters for shitty ones.
Such butt hurt...enjoying the smell of your farts? hehehe
Love how u added SWTOR stuff to this in the visions.
Kreia reminds me of Vergere from The New Jedi Order series of books.
How they talk and what they say are surprisingly similar.
She was once a Jedi
@@ROCKINRIZZLE And both Sith too.
Oh that kinda nullifies my comment. Should've looked more into it
I see she too had a starwars marathon recently
My question is how does the Republic not completely and utterly collapse very quickly afterwards. There’s so much emphasis on the importance of worlds like Onderon and Dantooine, and they’ve both collapsed. The Hutts are free to expand and corrupt the Republic. I’m astonished it survives the Sith Empire’s assault to last millenia.
When you look up exposition in the dictionary there is a picture of KOTOR next to it.
Its ad but we are probably never going to get a character like Kreia ever again.
If She were won, if she were destroyed the force. This entire conflict between jedi, and sith were ended. Balance would have been created as all of them goes to zero, and peace would have been created as both were cease to exist. The Immortal Emperor would have been reduced to a conventional man. The jedi who left could no longer return to their roots. The sith would be destroyed by their own slaves, and soldiers in vengeance for their cruelty.
And in the end. There would be only ordinary people. She was the chosen one, and she failed.
As if it wasn’t a ruse to draw out Surik.
@@ABFan-bj2uj It wasn't. Surik came back on her own accord not even knowing that almost every jedi were killed. She was looking for her to test the theory, that life can exist without the force. She knew that she survived being cut off from it, but she wanted at least one other. That is why she sought Surik.
@@akuladoctor7355 Perhaps. Perhaps not. I believe destroying the Force was merely a ruse to draw out Surik and the others. *My* Kreia posed as Darth Traya, not reassume the title of Darth Traya.
@@ABFan-bj2uj If you played the game, then you can learn, that nobody knew her plan until the very end. Not even her own former apprentice. A bait that nobody can sense is hardly a good one. Plus at the beginning of the game Surik were cut off from the force. Meaning that Traya could have done anything with the force Surik won't give a shit.
@@akuladoctor7355 Perhaps. But Kreia is Gray, not Dark Side.
Kreia knew all this and still thought she could kill The Exile?
She didn't want to kill her. Were you not paying attention? She would have allowed the entire galaxy to die in order to protect her. She was just trying to prepare her for the journey ahead.
(Busts out 3 lightsabers)
YOUR ENTIRE PARTY HAS BEEN KILLED.
This is amazing...
I love how Kreia is referencing the old republic mmo.
wow! what a scene... I am very motivated to play the game now.
Steam version with the Sith Lords Restored Content mod from the workshop.
Very creepy and enigmatic. Kreia seems like a super interesting character to incorporate into Star Wars, would be cool if she ended up as a villain or character in one of the movies.
Shame she could not pre-warn us all of the real greatest evil in Star Wars …. The Sequel trilogy.
Omg this reminds me to do my 2nd playthrough i absolutely loved this game i still havent finished the first one(i got the 2nd one first cuz i didnt know they had both on the xbox store)
This is much better than Mary sue of starwars sequels
“A heart can only handle so many betrayals before turning away entirely.” Probably one of the most realest quotes of Star Wars, especially in today’s world.
My gosh, the Force is truly strong with her.
Had Kreia existed in real life she would have been the Chair of the Humanities Department and the professor of the best courses. Upon graduation this is the speech we receive before departing the university.
If I could write fan fiction I would like to see her interact with Mr. John Keating and his students. She would make an interesting Yin to Robin Williams' Yang.
Well talk about spoilers .
So much for me having a Star Wars weekend .
Dark Atton looks like a goddamn Zombie.
So Kreia is like Haedraline from Neverwinter Nights giving the player a glimpse into the future based on their actions/alignment right at the end of the game.
Oh, man... I never finished Neverwinter Nights.
Kreia is by far one of the best written game characters of all time.
Did she predict Disney destroying everything too?
Saberian Dream I can’t deny it, much of the EU was wild. But @ least they weren’t main films.
Saberian Dream Although I felt that the sequels are simply a variation of the old Dark Empire story with the Emperor coming back to life.
Sir Mount no.
Disney killed the original timeline (Legends) of Star Wars but i pretend its canon especially The Old Republic. But then again it can be canon from a certain point of view. I like the new timeline of Star Wars like Rogue One, Jedi Fallen Order, Battlefront 2 (Not when it first launched), Rebels, Mandalorian, and Clone Wars (Which is in both timelines). I just wish Disney hadn't messed up the sequel trilogy.
@@saberiandream316 Yeah.
Im playing this game at the moment everytime Kreia speaks she reminds me of the Fable series with the mystery woman
It would be really cool youknow if disney cared they did a good kotor series and say at the end that the actual sith will return one day and have a series take place after the og movies in the way future.
@JamesHLanier Yeah...I know lol I have like 1000 hours in that game I was talking about a retcon with a better story I mean it is a mmo after all.
A detail I missed was that Kreia predicts that Mira will die at the hands of bounty hunters, specifically on Ord Mantell. Why there? Is there anything in other lore that confirms this? Or was it just writing? I’ve played through this game many times and I have never heard this quote. Super cool piece of info though.
Kreia is the masterpiece SW should hold on a pedestal. BRING HER BACK, BRING HER VOICE ACTOR BACK
Damn, she was spot on with the Mandalorians.
"Remain here and show others the way"? Does Kreia survive in the Dark Side ending?
No, the apprentice must kill the master
She was talking about whether or not she would have left with Revan if he had asked her to go together. But Revan didn't, so instead she remained here.
@@DanSlotea fuck yeah threw that bitch into the pits of malachor
The Dark Souls boss music begins with Mandalore and that’s fucking awesome.
Even after all these years, from having played Kotor2 like a maniac, I still enjoy listening to Kreia telling the future of Star Wars.
This for me, is the true peak of Star Wars universe, when they experimented and succeeded so well, because story was their main focus.
And not having dogs at their heels trying to put in crap in the story, that wasn't needed.
I miss the old Star Wars
I think most of this community miss it too.
i wish i had Darth Nihilus as my apprentice
4:52 Did the dark side left Atton cross-eyed?
Kreia is a truly interesting character.
I gotta admit. After playing the first KOTOR with its lighthearted theme, this edginess of this game caught me off guard in a positive way
Isn't she the intro voice of Dark Souls 1?
I like how vaklu gets a happy ending.
He does? When she says that he has a short rule I assumed he's killed.
@@PapitoQinn oh maybe he dies but for a general like him securing the sovereignty of his nation and people is worth any sacrifice.