4c Omnitiative vs 4c Time Vault || North 100 Showdown

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  • @t_s_albatross3270
    @t_s_albatross3270 8 місяців тому +193

    It took me way too long to realize that the thumbnail with the keys is because the keys untap the time vault, not that Wheeler used his infinite turns to steal the keys to my house and car

    • @thanosofdeath
      @thanosofdeath 8 місяців тому +13

      Truly the jangling-keys-in-our-faces stream

    • @lostmarble540
      @lostmarble540 8 місяців тому +1

      he hasn't stolen them . . . yet

    • @ScornfulEg0tist
      @ScornfulEg0tist 8 місяців тому +2

      ah yes the one key ring

  • @AsmodeusTyr
    @AsmodeusTyr 8 місяців тому +89

    Fun fact: Comet doesn't target with his abilities because you'd have to target something when you activate his ability, but because you can't know which effect you'll get when activating it, all of them simply don't target.

    • @kevinwestermann1001
      @kevinwestermann1001 8 місяців тому +5

      That's what the somewhat new reflexive targetting is for. They could have made it work like that.

    • @NStripleseven
      @NStripleseven 8 місяців тому +12

      @@kevinwestermann1001They could’ve but that ability is already long enough and trying to shoehorn in a reflexive trigger would have made it even more awkward.

  • @jaeger_404
    @jaeger_404 8 місяців тому +80

    Oh boy! Just in time for a new episode of Canadian: It’s a Showdown Throwing Yep!

    • @EionBlue
      @EionBlue 8 місяців тому

      My favorite show, better than that crappy North 100 Showdown series, clearly a knockoff.

  • @notsm
    @notsm 8 місяців тому +47

    I swords to plowshares your Aragorn.
    Aragorn, no. We JUST finished reforging that sword...

  • @Sugarman96
    @Sugarman96 8 місяців тому +24

    My favorite part of the episode is how Wheeler nailed the intro, Serge could never

    • @peewee0224
      @peewee0224 8 місяців тому

      wow dude spoiler alert

  • @liamcox9043
    @liamcox9043 8 місяців тому +123

    Hi, North 100 showdown stats guy here again. Wheeler let Nelson win the die roll today, bringing Nelson's die roll rating up to 29% and dropping Wheeler's rating back to 69%. [OUTCOME SPOILERS] Wheeler won the match on the draw, bringing his win% on the draw to 57% and his overall win% to 71%. Nelson still has yet to win a match on the play, leaving his overall win% at 14% (Edited for spelling)

    • @Jelkin02
      @Jelkin02 8 місяців тому +1

      Wheeler the GOAT

  • @Halophile95
    @Halophile95 Місяць тому +1

    nelson staring at his hands to try and perceive reality is something i felt to my core.

  • @rexcalibur0672
    @rexcalibur0672 8 місяців тому +10

    I have a Commander deck where I'm actually playing The One Ring and Paradox Haze, and Wheeler's offhand joke made me realize I should actually watch out for that. Thanks, guys!

  • @morgancarlton4544
    @morgancarlton4544 8 місяців тому +43

    @34:00, Nelson forgets about key text on Questing Beast (which is fair, the card is THE meme for too many words). Questing beast has ability that combat damage that would be dealt by creatures you control can't be prevented. So questing beast would actually have been a great answer to the One Ring trigger. Kind of surprised Wheeler didn't remind him then or after the game.

    • @Mordalon
      @Mordalon 8 місяців тому +19

      I say this all the time. The card doesn't have too many words. It just has abilities that often are either irrelevant or exactly counter specific situations. Like people constantly seem to think it has abilities that generate card advantage or protect itself when it has neither.

    • @adancein
      @adancein 8 місяців тому +2

      Ooooh I thought TOR just stopped attacks as a whole, not prevented damage. But looking it up, it sure does just literally "prevent damage". Very interesting!

    • @Willd2p2
      @Willd2p2 8 місяців тому +5

      I actually think Nelson might have just thought Comet was a better play - it's not like QB would have been lethal and Comet is a lot harder to deal with so might be more likely to kill over 2 turns through some amount of interaction. I could be wrong but I'd be surprised if he didn't know the interaction because QB and Stomp specifically are so often mentioned as ways to get around the Ring trigger.

    • @leodalkey651
      @leodalkey651 Місяць тому

      Yup, that's why I keep wildslash around, that and shock the bird.

  • @derekdenis
    @derekdenis 8 місяців тому +29

    So it's not that Wheeler always wins the die roll but that Serge always loses.

  • @TheTamally
    @TheTamally 8 місяців тому +6

    "Questing Beast is bad, I'm gonna Comet instead"
    Words you didn't think you'd hear.

  • @adamoneal5837
    @adamoneal5837 7 місяців тому +2

    Eomer yells “To the king!!” before rallying to Theoden’s aid!!
    Those who played the LOTR Trivial Pursuit game will remember this particular phrase as being one of the more difficult questions to answers.

  • @krej55
    @krej55 8 місяців тому +5

    As a fairly new player i find watching this show very useful in learning the older cards ecen if i could never keep up with this level of play

  • @sandmanlives3
    @sandmanlives3 8 місяців тому +1

    Excellent, as always. Thank you.
    Love me a North 100 showdown!

  • @microafro1979
    @microafro1979 8 місяців тому +34

    OMG Get The Prof on here! He constantly talks about how much he loves LRR yet I've never seen him on here in any capacity.

    • @JazzKaioshin
      @JazzKaioshin 8 місяців тому +7

      IIRC he attended a couple of PPRs in the past but that was a while ago now. He also appeared in an episode of Friday Nights.

    • @davidwhite769
      @davidwhite769 8 місяців тому +7

      He’s definitely been in LRR stuff (although I don’t know if any of it has been since Covid), he just hasn’t been in any Canlander-related content

    • @mattfenner7824
      @mattfenner7824 8 місяців тому +3

      @@davidwhite769 He hasn’t on LRR, but Wheeler and Serge did play CanLander on Shuffle up and Play, along with Prof and Pascal Maynard!

    • @cliff5n0t3s
      @cliff5n0t3s 8 місяців тому +8

      Have you noticed Nelson and the Professor never appear on screen together?

    • @iaingordon2904
      @iaingordon2904 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@mattfenner7824 Yeah, that's what they were referencing in this video

  • @CrazySliver75
    @CrazySliver75 8 місяців тому +1

    26:25 I'm not an expert but I'd have kept the brainstorm/fetch on top, so next turn I could cast brainstorm, trigger Aragorn to dig 1 more card deep (scry 2 but I know one of them), then resolve brainstorm to dig 3 more cards and have the fetch if I don't find an answer.
    Anyway, great content as always, love the "best-of as many as we can fit in an hour" games

  • @osaka199
    @osaka199 5 місяців тому +3

    Today in "words I never thought I'd hear watching MtG content", "I'm going to Otawara my own One Ring".

  • @SuperFlamingTomato
    @SuperFlamingTomato 8 місяців тому +4

    God that Mind Twist was the most brutal thing I think I've ever seen.

    • @johncameron1935
      @johncameron1935 3 місяці тому

      Easily as brutal as the Stifle, Stifle, Concede from the Judge's Tower FNPF.

  • @flyingtoastr
    @flyingtoastr 8 місяців тому +10

    I agree with Wheeler's take on Time Vault: it serves a purpose in the format, but it also just kinda shits out wins with so little effort that it's really tilting. Card should be 11 points.

    • @stephenmorgan6282
      @stephenmorgan6282 8 місяців тому +1

      Nah 10 points is fine. Let the card be in the format, just give it virtually no help.

  • @Arakasi0
    @Arakasi0 8 місяців тому +6

    I have no idea how Urza's Saga has lived this long without getting pointed.

  • @silverlos6082
    @silverlos6082 8 місяців тому +8

    If you Fable me I swear to -- [gets fabled]

  • @senken12
    @senken12 8 місяців тому +2

    Wheeler losing the die roll confirming that it's the seat, not the player

  • @thanosofdeath
    @thanosofdeath 8 місяців тому +7

    This episode brought to you by Dave's Spokesman

  • @kevinwestermann1001
    @kevinwestermann1001 8 місяців тому +4

    I really felt Nelly's gulp on Mind Twist.

  • @tzaandor
    @tzaandor 8 місяців тому +3

    I just love the initiative. This is mostly due to the fact that Vengeful Hunter is still legal in pauper and it's a great wincon for BG Gardens (my favorite deck of all time)
    I also look forward to more K-holes from Wheeler

    • @JonaxII
      @JonaxII 5 днів тому +1

      A mono black deck splashing for Vengeful Hunter and Khalni Garden is truly a work of beauty.

  • @plundypops
    @plundypops 8 місяців тому +3

    Is this the first time wheeler has been on the right side?
    Is it really that the left side of the table just always goes first? 🤔

  • @egyptcraze
    @egyptcraze 8 місяців тому +5

    pretty sure Dave's spokesman did that intro XD

  • @peterjessen97
    @peterjessen97 8 місяців тому +1

    34:00 why is questing beast bad here? It gets around the ring and can start doing damage.

  • @overtonwindowshopper
    @overtonwindowshopper 8 місяців тому +2

    Could you guys list the point values for each of the cards? 😊
    Thanks!
    Edit: I mean in the video, when they pop up

  • @ScornfulEg0tist
    @ScornfulEg0tist 8 місяців тому +1

    I almost wonder if it's worth running stuff like Tamiyo's safekeeping/blacksmith's skill in time vault as interaction against boseiju
    or I guess Encroach for the meme
    surely a thoughtseize specifically for non basic lands is playable in canlander :P

  • @JEHNLEROY
    @JEHNLEROY 8 місяців тому +1

    Any chance this goes to weekly?? I love these boys playing some canlander. If not I completely understand. I just get antsy having to wait two weeks.

  • @sethzard
    @sethzard 8 місяців тому +3

    Wheeler losing the die roll feels like a sign of the end time.

  • @peewee0224
    @peewee0224 8 місяців тому +4

    man when the 4 color omnitiative players all realize the correct point spread is spellseeker timewalk plus a 1 point card it will be over lol

    • @fairygoodmuller8065
      @fairygoodmuller8065 8 місяців тому

      Spellseeker, time walk, forth eorlingas!

    • @peewee0224
      @peewee0224 8 місяців тому

      @@fairygoodmuller8065 that’s probably the best I go with mana drain because mana drain is one of my favorite cards. But forth is probably the correct pick

  • @09dmband
    @09dmband 8 місяців тому +1

    Turn 5 (or 6) Nelson blew up your artifact token, the turn after you casted the ring and you had protection. 17:48

    • @jackvogel701
      @jackvogel701 8 місяців тому +6

      Yeah wheeler had protection but his permanents didn’t. The one ring isn’t quite that busted lol

  • @Gaiametris
    @Gaiametris 8 місяців тому

    Woop woop more canadian highlander content ❤

  • @gingeraletrinker2449
    @gingeraletrinker2449 8 місяців тому +4

    Wait! They actually roll before the game? I thought they just decided Wheeler goes first every time.

  • @MrMalorian
    @MrMalorian 8 місяців тому +4

    Good video to understand why Time Vault is banned in Commander

  • @tamo3329
    @tamo3329 8 місяців тому +5

    Wheeler losing the die roll? Incredible!

    • @huckthatdish
      @huckthatdish 8 місяців тому +1

      Biggest upset in MTG history

    • @Halinn
      @Halinn 8 місяців тому +4

      He sat at the wrong side of the table.

  • @timjacques6333
    @timjacques6333 8 місяців тому +1

    Just let the poor man concede

  • @liamcox9043
    @liamcox9043 8 місяців тому +1

    9:56 HE SAID THE LINE!!!!!

  • @brningpyre
    @brningpyre 8 місяців тому +3

    Is it Omnath + Initiative, or Omniscience + Initiative?

    • @elfofgreece423
      @elfofgreece423 8 місяців тому +1

      4c Omnath + initiative

    • @adancein
      @adancein 8 місяців тому

      I also thought Omniscience at first lol

  • @uberwitz2193
    @uberwitz2193 8 місяців тому +4

    Graham's ability to Dave is really unmatched, clearly, hahah.

  • @noahwick3217
    @noahwick3217 8 місяців тому +2

    9:27 its turn 5 and TV player has 18 life, theyre never losing this (will respond if im wrong lol)

  • @jarzz3601
    @jarzz3601 8 місяців тому +1

    nelson's been here the whole time

  • @redwingwonder2248
    @redwingwonder2248 8 місяців тому

    I love my lunch time North 💯 Episodes.

  • @benjamindavidgoebel1818
    @benjamindavidgoebel1818 8 місяців тому +3

    Perfect timing!

  • @Thesreyn1
    @Thesreyn1 8 місяців тому +2

    BuT hOw Do YoU wIn WiTh InFiNiTe TuRnS?

  • @JEHNLEROY
    @JEHNLEROY 8 місяців тому +1

    What sleeves is Nelly using??

    • @pytawidmo
      @pytawidmo 8 місяців тому +1

      Seems like Dragon Shields, either some yet unreleased Paintings variant, or a custom made one. The art looks like a Jace & Vraska version of "The Kiss" by Klimt, which appeared on Fine Art Collection sleeves in the original form.

    • @pytawidmo
      @pytawidmo 8 місяців тому +1

      The art is actually owned by their friend, Michelle Rapp aka KilnFiendPotter, so might be a custom made DS with that art.

  • @johnlahr3773
    @johnlahr3773 7 місяців тому

    Little late to the part but ease on down the road is probably best known from the wiz soundtrack...

  • @Neisan2112
    @Neisan2112 8 місяців тому

    I gotta know where I can get Nelly's sleeves! I need them.
    Awesome games yall!

    • @pytawidmo
      @pytawidmo 8 місяців тому +1

      Seems like Dragon Shields, either some yet unreleased Classic Art variant, or a custom made one. The art looks like a Jace & Vraska version of "The Kiss" by Klimt, which appeared on Fine Art Collection sleeves in its original form.

    • @pytawidmo
      @pytawidmo 8 місяців тому +2

      The art is actually owned by their friend, Michelle Rapp aka KilnFiendPotter, so might be a custom made DS with that art.

  • @Simriel
    @Simriel 8 місяців тому +2

    I love Canadian Nope

  • @MusicalMarauder
    @MusicalMarauder 8 місяців тому

    So do we have a new pin or shirt for this intro designed yet?

  • @nerdaccount
    @nerdaccount 8 місяців тому

    I love these shows, but I don't think I could ever play this well! LOL

  • @lightfut
    @lightfut 8 місяців тому +1

    I saw a shiny thing and heard a jingle so I clicked. Now I don't know what's going on

  • @Ugunark
    @Ugunark 8 місяців тому

    Where islands?

  • @eggtimer2
    @eggtimer2 8 місяців тому

    Does Eomer deal damage despite the ring?

    • @jackvogel701
      @jackvogel701 8 місяців тому +1

      Why wouldn’t it? It targeted a creature not wheeler (unless I’m misunderstanding protection that should be fine)

    • @eggtimer2
      @eggtimer2 8 місяців тому +1

      @@jackvogel701 oh, yes, you are right! Thank you!

  • @maxkueter3202
    @maxkueter3202 8 місяців тому

    Does anyone know what sleeves Nelson is using?

    • @pytawidmo
      @pytawidmo 8 місяців тому +1

      They look like Fine Art "The Kiss" by Klimt sleeves, but maybe some altered version. I wanna say it's Jace / Vraska on those instead the original couple? Might be some yet unreleased Dragon Shields painting variant or a custom made one.

    • @pytawidmo
      @pytawidmo 8 місяців тому +2

      The art is actually owned by their friend, Michelle Rapp aka KilnFiendPotter, so might be a custom made DS with that art.

  • @Xalyn937
    @Xalyn937 8 місяців тому +1

    I can see the braincell bouncing between players. Great games!

  • @Smertmonkey
    @Smertmonkey 8 місяців тому +2

    I want to see wheeler on game knights

    • @starmanda88
      @starmanda88 8 місяців тому

      I think we all want that

  • @RumpledNutskin
    @RumpledNutskin 8 місяців тому +2

    There's no 2 card combo i hate more than vault+key 😂

    • @kevinwestermann1001
      @kevinwestermann1001 8 місяців тому

      Thassa's Oracle + Demonic Consultation?

    • @RumpledNutskin
      @RumpledNutskin 8 місяців тому

      @@kevinwestermann1001 I don't play EDH, so I don't care about that lol

  • @will2jenk
    @will2jenk 8 місяців тому

    SERGE!!!!!

  • @NarcoticIsland
    @NarcoticIsland 8 місяців тому +2

    I think Nelson Pondered correctly.

  • @cloaking111
    @cloaking111 8 місяців тому

    I do hate it Nelson, Thanks for asking

  • @Ven4t0r
    @Ven4t0r 7 місяців тому +1

    That 4 mana space Dog Planeswalker
    makes me want to stop playing MTG =( left the video twice

  • @Halinn
    @Halinn 8 місяців тому

    Is it just me or does the topdown seem a bit fuzzier than usual?

  • @lordappelmeos
    @lordappelmeos 8 місяців тому

    Lesgoooooooooooo

  • @Reversespacehippie
    @Reversespacehippie 8 місяців тому +1

    Obligatory algorithmic contribution

  • @samuellesniewski8224
    @samuellesniewski8224 8 місяців тому

    Ben I have that shirt as my mouse pad

  • @boomytoadsmasher8018
    @boomytoadsmasher8018 8 місяців тому

    I do the thankmost

  • @americoserna1852
    @americoserna1852 8 місяців тому

    10:44 More like...

  • @thevaultwalrus
    @thevaultwalrus 8 місяців тому

    Yeah 4C

  • @oafkad
    @oafkad 8 місяців тому

    Ben Weaseler

  • @mattcontrol
    @mattcontrol 7 місяців тому

    Hi Nelly. I hate it.

  • @lunameyers7093
    @lunameyers7093 8 місяців тому

    Meow

  • @erinaxel8562
    @erinaxel8562 8 місяців тому

    I hate IT. Kinda weird movie.