It depends, I had Firefox-based browsers do better on slow hardware (Pentium M). It's worth looking into roytam1's browsers as well (New Moon, K-Meleon). I recommend using an alternate fronten d for UA-cam too, it's much faster. One can also change the user-agent for UA-cam, to get the more lightweight mobile layout.
With a PC from 2007(mid-range) or 2009(low-range) windows vista works WONDERFULLY, I use it daily and yes I do have a PC from 2017 for newer games and school stuff but I still use the windows vista PC more
Try watching this on a Linux Mint VM. Mint at least, lets you turn the volume up to i think like, what 200%? 150%? Something like that. You can get the volume up past 100% either way.
In 2008 I bought a new laptop with 2 GB of memory; a 2 core Athlon 1.8 GHz and a 160 GB HDD. The system was very slow and I started dual booting with Ubuntu. The system was OK after 2 service packs and after I replaced the 160 GB HDD at 40 MB/s with a 320 GB HDD at 80 MB/s. When the OS got its 3rd service pack and changed its name to Windows 7, it became very popular, because the hardware had caught up in the meantime :)
Linux Users are so funny with their fake retrospective of Windows history. Windows Vista had 0 chances to be slow on 2 GB of memory; a 2 core Athlon 1.8 GHz and a 160 GB HDD. It wasn't changed drastically with SP2. There wes no "3rd service pack and changing name to Windows 7" cause Windows Vista SP2 came AFTER Windows 7. When Windows Vista was released Untuntu was 1 year old and no one knew about it. Your religion is a lie and everyone knows it, stop. 🤫
Linux Users are so funny with their fake retrospective of Windows history. Windows Vista had 0 chances to be slow on 2 GB of memory; a 2 core Athlon 1.8 GHz and a 160 GB HDD. It wasn't changed drastically with SP2. There wes no "3rd service pack and changing name to Windows 7" cause Windows Vista SP2 came AFTER Windows 7. When Windows Vista was released Untuntu was 1 year old and no one knew about it. Stop it.
@@dmwzr You can't read, I did not use Vista at the moment it was released. I bought the laptop in mid 2008 with Vista and no service packs were released yet. My HDD had a throughput of 40 MB/s. Vista became acceptable after the 2 service packs and after I changed the HDD. That 3rd service pack was a joke about the origin of Windows 7, but you missed it completely. I don't stop, because I proved myself. I tested the prototypes of computers and later I did run a Software development department of more than 100 people.
@@bertnijhof5413 >"That 3rd service pack was a joke about the origin of Windows 7, but you missed it completely." If you say you remember a SP2 release, there is 0 chance you didn't noticed a Windows 7 was released BEFORE. >"I bought the laptop in mid 2008 with Vista" With an Dual Core Athlon 1.8 GHz, which was released in 2009, cause yeah it was a prototype and you were a tester, sure 🤡
@@SaraMorgan-ym6ueYeah you were correct about that but 7's biggest change is a change YOU CAN DO ON YOUR OWN IN VISTA WHY ARE PEOPLE CALLING VISTA SHlT
I used vista back in the day, absolutely loved it! Begrudgingly upgraded to Win7. Windows 7 loved it slightly less but it did what I wanted and was updated. Windows 8 & 8.1 I refused to upgrade. Windows 10 I upgraded a few years after the updates stopped for 7, it was and is okay. I upgraded immediately to 11 though as in many ways it’s better but it’ll never be my Windows Vista. I know saying I liked or loved vista is controversial but it was the first OS on my very own laptop not shared with anyone, and I did a lot of gaming, programming, and chatting to friend on it. I wish I still had that laptop, in the end the hardware died before the OS 😢.
After WIndows XP that had dated interface, was unable to utilize 64 bit instructions, struggled to have >2 Gb user folder, autorun type viruses, Vista was a breath of fresh air.
Hey! I forgot to mention in the video that I actually tried using an extended kernel but my Internet stopped working and I couldn’t load certain stuff, so I ended up running without it which turned out better for me either way 😁
Vista was in many ways faster than Windows 7 eg. anything that does with GDI drawing routines and especially text drawing. You could benchmark it and Win7 was much slower and when used with something like GDI++ (tool to replace default ClearType font rendering to FreeType2 - think Linux) the difference was massive. Also in games Vista usually fared slightly better than Windows 7 (both RTM and SP1). The only thing Vista actually did slower was write operations on large number of small files due to server reliability options enabled by default which do with journaling being more reliable - which meant you were much less likely to break NTFS volume in case of eg. power failure. Vista also was way too agressive with auto-optimalization services which were caching frequently used programs. It could speed up loading programs a lot from slower HDDs but in practice more often caused I/O bottlenecks because system would do read/write operations while user used computer. Disabling these services until you could not hear disk when iddling made Vista very nice to use... on fast enough computer like Core 2 Duo ~3GHz 4GB memory. I used 32-bit version with swap on ~512MB ramdisk which used PAE to reclaim memory 32-bit OS could not give to applications. At that time there weren't really that many 64-bit applications and 32-bit applications worked slightly faster on 32-bit OS (mostly to do with Core2 missing some features in 64-bit mode than OS but it added some overhead also - especially in terms of memory usage) so it made sense at that time. I even used Vista with Core i3 which had HyperThreading and M$ didn't give Vista smarter scheduler Win7 got but this was hardly an issue games never scheduling on real cores - I did check this with games just to be sure while being prepared to change affinity - which was never needed... at least for games. Later I got AVX capable CPU and switched to Win7 - other than slower GDI drawing and different nicer taskbar (still "classic" though) not much difference. I could not find as nice themes for Win7 so used default and later one which removed this blueish hue from Aero. I managed to workaround GDI drawing performance by using second monitor on iGPU which forced WDDM 1.0 and "copy of video ram in system ram" which was literally the only thing M$ changed in Win7 to reduce its memory consumption - which saved ~100MB memory when there were lots of windows opened but made GUI performance worse and despite WDDM 1.1 causing issues in some applications in multi-monitor setups MS didn't give option to force WDDM1.0. The way I see it Windows 7 was just Vista but with upgrades regarding hardware support (AVX and TRIM) and scheduler made for Core i7 with HyperThreading and some GUI changes and WDDM1.1 driver support - all the things they could easily add to Vista with another Service Pack. For M$ Vista was sacrificial OS and they knew hardware is too weak for the OS and they made too many changes that required new drivers for hardware. By the time Win7 came out hardware was more ready and you could actually get eg. USB 3G modem or Wifi card, etc. and it just worked because by that time there were drivers for NT6.x systems. Otherwise technically Windows 11 is still NT6.x and so it is still the same OS as Vista. Just much uglier and with questionable GUI decisions. The only thing I really disliked in Vista but which didn't affect me was font rendering. It was horrible, ClearType was copied directly from XP where it was unusable. Win7 didn't improve it much but did a little and IMHO if it didn't people would like it less. Windows 10 and especially later revisions improved ClearType a lot. Still nothign like GDI++/ezGdi/MacType or just using Linux but I can eg. at work use Win10 and it doesn't make my eyes bleed. I absolutely hated default Vista font rendering and one of the first thing I tried to do was to disable ClearType wherever possible - which could be done for everything. So... tl;dr I cannot fully say Vista was great due to its terrible ClearType which was hard to disable but otherwise with GDI++/ezGdi and nicer theme which removed that blueish hue (that Win7 shared) it was the most beautiful OS I ever used. I didn't find anything even remotely nice even on Linux yet. BTW. Interresting tidbit: recently I made few retro computer for Win98 but good enough specs for even Vista (Athlon X2 running at ~3GHz, 4GB RAM) and I compared XP and Vista in games on various retro GPUs like FX5900, 6800GT, Radeon x800 and I found very interresting thing: all these cards run DX9c and earlier much faster when using NT5.x drivers (so XP drivers in short) and its really XP performance. It was WDDM drivers which made things slower. Same with GUI drawing - Vista actually supported all that good stuff which XP supported but simply WDDM drivers needed for Aero sucked balls. It is also possible to do that with Windows 7 and there is no difference other than Windows 7 supporting more modern software so in fact maybe better than Vista for this use case but still, it is somewhat Vista related because Win7 is Vista
When making large essays like this, it's best to add some gaps. Kind of like this, just with bigger sections of text. Makes it easier to read, and keep track of what word you're at. I'd recommend like 3 or 4 lines, then a gap.
That would be a real pain in the neck using so low end configuration. Recently I've downgraded my dad's old (near mint though!) Lenovo Y550 from 7 to Vista. Strange enough, it had license key in BIOS already. Installed all the dedicated drivers, and well, p7550 core 2 duo with 4gb ddr3 and gt240 are running like a charm. I would definitely recommend trying Vista on former higher-end devices. One day i will post a video with Phenom X4 940 and R4870 from my collection. :)
An old computer like this is very good for old games and software. I have an old laptop running Windows 7, in which I disconnected the keyboard, removed the battery and hooked it up to wall power. I occasionally browse old web forums for nostalgia, but I usually just keep it offline and play old games and use some old software from my childhood.
Have you ever thought about trying Linux Mint on that PC? See if you'd use it over Windows Vista? It's a pretty light OS and can support newer software, but still run on older hardware. I think it might be a fun thing to try and see what you can do with it!
Even if he would put that key in, it would fail to activate, regardless if the key is valid or not. The Microsoft servers responsible for validating these keys have been down for a few years now. Source: I tried it a few days ago on an old Vista laptop with its original product key. Errored out.
@@huuishuu It's the installer he bypassed you don't require internet to input a valid code. Of course it will eventually show as non-activated but the dude googled how to bypass the code in the installer instead of looking at the case. You can also still call MS on the phone to activate these.
Steam is what i think i had to use to get all the games working. I did have allot of the drivers on disk also on back up drives. Mine plays pretty good up to far cry 3
Vista was bad because people wanted that all crappy pcs worked with it like it was xp, and vista was a big jump in hardware requirements. Once hardware was good enought vista was good
That 'shitty ass computer' sits somewhere within my nerdy heart.
Web browser supermium is better than mypal
Maybe if he was using an actual Core 2 Duo
I use a pentium dual core I find youtube runs better on my palm but mostly use supermium
It depends, I had Firefox-based browsers do better on slow hardware (Pentium M). It's worth looking into roytam1's browsers as well (New Moon, K-Meleon). I recommend using an alternate fronten d for UA-cam too, it's much faster. One can also change the user-agent for UA-cam, to get the more lightweight mobile layout.
With a PC from 2007(mid-range) or 2009(low-range) windows vista works WONDERFULLY, I use it daily and yes I do have a PC from 2017 for newer games and school stuff but I still use the windows vista PC more
Yo DJ! Turn that volume up!
you gotta love those old pc's with there tricks to get into them💀💀
Try watching this on a Linux Mint VM. Mint at least, lets you turn the volume up to i think like, what 200%? 150%? Something like that. You can get the volume up past 100% either way.
speakers are all the way up but vol to low still but looks like it works
In 2008 I bought a new laptop with 2 GB of memory; a 2 core Athlon 1.8 GHz and a 160 GB HDD. The system was very slow and I started dual booting with Ubuntu. The system was OK after 2 service packs and after I replaced the 160 GB HDD at 40 MB/s with a 320 GB HDD at 80 MB/s.
When the OS got its 3rd service pack and changed its name to Windows 7, it became very popular, because the hardware had caught up in the meantime :)
use ssd drives mine is upwards of 6gb per second there so much better mate
Linux Users are so funny with their fake retrospective of Windows history.
Windows Vista had 0 chances to be slow on 2 GB of memory; a 2 core Athlon 1.8 GHz and a 160 GB HDD.
It wasn't changed drastically with SP2.
There wes no "3rd service pack and changing name to Windows 7" cause Windows Vista SP2 came AFTER Windows 7.
When Windows Vista was released Untuntu was 1 year old and no one knew about it.
Your religion is a lie and everyone knows it, stop. 🤫
Linux Users are so funny with their fake retrospective of Windows history.
Windows Vista had 0 chances to be slow on 2 GB of memory; a 2 core Athlon 1.8 GHz and a 160 GB HDD.
It wasn't changed drastically with SP2.
There wes no "3rd service pack and changing name to Windows 7" cause Windows Vista SP2 came AFTER Windows 7.
When Windows Vista was released Untuntu was 1 year old and no one knew about it.
Stop it.
@@dmwzr You can't read, I did not use Vista at the moment it was released. I bought the laptop in mid 2008 with Vista and no service packs were released yet. My HDD had a throughput of 40 MB/s. Vista became acceptable after the 2 service packs and after I changed the HDD.
That 3rd service pack was a joke about the origin of Windows 7, but you missed it completely.
I don't stop, because I proved myself. I tested the prototypes of computers and later I did run a Software development department of more than 100 people.
@@bertnijhof5413 >"That 3rd service pack was a joke about the origin of Windows 7, but you missed it completely."
If you say you remember a SP2 release, there is 0 chance you didn't noticed a Windows 7 was released BEFORE.
>"I bought the laptop in mid 2008 with Vista"
With an Dual Core Athlon 1.8 GHz, which was released in 2009, cause yeah it was a prototype and you were a tester, sure 🤡
That tower is the EXACT computer i bought from best but, like 13, 14 years ago!
One of the maing things people hated about Vista was the new UAC control prompts. They made them less intrusive in Windows 7.
I ran Vista for a long time but I fell in love with 7!
pssst they are the same os except 7 is vista with the pretty op features taken out for speed increase otherwise it's the same os
@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue Cool! Never knew that.
@@SaraMorgan-ym6ueYeah you were correct about that but 7's biggest change is a change YOU CAN DO ON YOUR OWN IN VISTA WHY ARE PEOPLE CALLING VISTA SHlT
Within 30 seconds I instantly decided I love your personality and you gained a new subscriber
I used vista back in the day, absolutely loved it! Begrudgingly upgraded to Win7. Windows 7 loved it slightly less but it did what I wanted and was updated. Windows 8 & 8.1 I refused to upgrade. Windows 10 I upgraded a few years after the updates stopped for 7, it was and is okay. I upgraded immediately to 11 though as in many ways it’s better but it’ll never be my Windows Vista. I know saying I liked or loved vista is controversial but it was the first OS on my very own laptop not shared with anyone, and I did a lot of gaming, programming, and chatting to friend on it. I wish I still had that laptop, in the end the hardware died before the OS 😢.
After WIndows XP that had dated interface, was unable to utilize 64 bit instructions, struggled to have >2 Gb user folder, autorun type viruses, Vista was a breath of fresh air.
i used vista for a month actually thanks to supermium and extended kernel
I tried to install extended kernel for Vista and i failed miserably 😂. I didn't found a step by step tutorial.
@@Dragonfire511 win client 5270 has one
Hey! I forgot to mention in the video that I actually tried using an extended kernel but my Internet stopped working and I couldn’t load certain stuff, so I ended up running without it which turned out better for me either way 😁
yeah its a pain in the ass to setup but supermium actually helps a lot
Vista needs more memory than the average XP PC had in 2007. A greater amount of ram and a fast processor will work wonders with it.
Vista was in many ways faster than Windows 7 eg. anything that does with GDI drawing routines and especially text drawing. You could benchmark it and Win7 was much slower and when used with something like GDI++ (tool to replace default ClearType font rendering to FreeType2 - think Linux) the difference was massive. Also in games Vista usually fared slightly better than Windows 7 (both RTM and SP1). The only thing Vista actually did slower was write operations on large number of small files due to server reliability options enabled by default which do with journaling being more reliable - which meant you were much less likely to break NTFS volume in case of eg. power failure. Vista also was way too agressive with auto-optimalization services which were caching frequently used programs. It could speed up loading programs a lot from slower HDDs but in practice more often caused I/O bottlenecks because system would do read/write operations while user used computer. Disabling these services until you could not hear disk when iddling made Vista very nice to use... on fast enough computer like Core 2 Duo ~3GHz 4GB memory. I used 32-bit version with swap on ~512MB ramdisk which used PAE to reclaim memory 32-bit OS could not give to applications. At that time there weren't really that many 64-bit applications and 32-bit applications worked slightly faster on 32-bit OS (mostly to do with Core2 missing some features in 64-bit mode than OS but it added some overhead also - especially in terms of memory usage) so it made sense at that time. I even used Vista with Core i3 which had HyperThreading and M$ didn't give Vista smarter scheduler Win7 got but this was hardly an issue games never scheduling on real cores - I did check this with games just to be sure while being prepared to change affinity - which was never needed... at least for games. Later I got AVX capable CPU and switched to Win7 - other than slower GDI drawing and different nicer taskbar (still "classic" though) not much difference. I could not find as nice themes for Win7 so used default and later one which removed this blueish hue from Aero. I managed to workaround GDI drawing performance by using second monitor on iGPU which forced WDDM 1.0 and "copy of video ram in system ram" which was literally the only thing M$ changed in Win7 to reduce its memory consumption - which saved ~100MB memory when there were lots of windows opened but made GUI performance worse and despite WDDM 1.1 causing issues in some applications in multi-monitor setups MS didn't give option to force WDDM1.0. The way I see it Windows 7 was just Vista but with upgrades regarding hardware support (AVX and TRIM) and scheduler made for Core i7 with HyperThreading and some GUI changes and WDDM1.1 driver support - all the things they could easily add to Vista with another Service Pack. For M$ Vista was sacrificial OS and they knew hardware is too weak for the OS and they made too many changes that required new drivers for hardware. By the time Win7 came out hardware was more ready and you could actually get eg. USB 3G modem or Wifi card, etc. and it just worked because by that time there were drivers for NT6.x systems. Otherwise technically Windows 11 is still NT6.x and so it is still the same OS as Vista. Just much uglier and with questionable GUI decisions. The only thing I really disliked in Vista but which didn't affect me was font rendering. It was horrible, ClearType was copied directly from XP where it was unusable. Win7 didn't improve it much but did a little and IMHO if it didn't people would like it less. Windows 10 and especially later revisions improved ClearType a lot. Still nothign like GDI++/ezGdi/MacType or just using Linux but I can eg. at work use Win10 and it doesn't make my eyes bleed. I absolutely hated default Vista font rendering and one of the first thing I tried to do was to disable ClearType wherever possible - which could be done for everything. So... tl;dr I cannot fully say Vista was great due to its terrible ClearType which was hard to disable but otherwise with GDI++/ezGdi and nicer theme which removed that blueish hue (that Win7 shared) it was the most beautiful OS I ever used. I didn't find anything even remotely nice even on Linux yet. BTW. Interresting tidbit: recently I made few retro computer for Win98 but good enough specs for even Vista (Athlon X2 running at ~3GHz, 4GB RAM) and I compared XP and Vista in games on various retro GPUs like FX5900, 6800GT, Radeon x800 and I found very interresting thing: all these cards run DX9c and earlier much faster when using NT5.x drivers (so XP drivers in short) and its really XP performance. It was WDDM drivers which made things slower. Same with GUI drawing - Vista actually supported all that good stuff which XP supported but simply WDDM drivers needed for Aero sucked balls. It is also possible to do that with Windows 7 and there is no difference other than Windows 7 supporting more modern software so in fact maybe better than Vista for this use case but still, it is somewhat Vista related because Win7 is Vista
Words, wonderful. I wonder how many he thinks we’re going to read.
Vista SP2 was faster than 7 SP1.
When making large essays like this, it's best to add some gaps.
Kind of like this, just with bigger sections of text.
Makes it easier to read, and keep track of what word you're at.
I'd recommend like 3 or 4 lines, then a gap.
I'm not reading that.
4:20 That's the exact same laptop my mom used to use! I remember her using that in 2014.
SSD MORE RAM AND WINDOWS 10 AND IT magically BECOMES A TODAY COMPUTER...
Windows 7 was my fav! Vista was good too, just depends on your specs when running it
That would be a real pain in the neck using so low end configuration. Recently I've downgraded my dad's old (near mint though!) Lenovo Y550 from 7 to Vista. Strange enough, it had license key in BIOS already. Installed all the dedicated drivers, and well, p7550 core 2 duo with 4gb ddr3 and gt240 are running like a charm. I would definitely recommend trying Vista on former higher-end devices. One day i will post a video with Phenom X4 940 and R4870 from my collection. :)
at least use an ssd for the hard disk drive that will make it a little less painful to use then
Still usable PC
An old computer like this is very good for old games and software. I have an old laptop running Windows 7, in which I disconnected the keyboard, removed the battery and hooked it up to wall power. I occasionally browse old web forums for nostalgia, but I usually just keep it offline and play old games and use some old software from my childhood.
I love how people are leaving windows 11 in droves for linux yet this moron is making a video on how to install it on a computer🤣🤣
Something about this is just so like satisfying
quick tip install legacy update. legacy update revives windows update and installs all the service packs you need for vista
the usb called FUCKME
As a first time viewer, that accent caught me OFF GUARD. Not in a bad way, just in a "didn't expect this" way
My old computer. Keep the case and upgrade inside
Nice video.
Thanks!
You can take out the default hardware, put in gaming hardware and make a sleeper PC out of that Aspire case!
With an ssd, an extra gig of ram, and a cheap 1 gig gpu of sorts, I’d say that is all most will ever need and for only about $60
UEFI you can get to work by booting into setup and turning on UEFI boot then just letting the PC start as long as ur USB boots before the HDD
Have you ever thought about trying Linux Mint on that PC? See if you'd use it over Windows Vista? It's a pretty light OS and can support newer software, but still run on older hardware. I think it might be a fun thing to try and see what you can do with it!
My dude you bypassed a product key you had on the side of the case…
don't think a vista product key would do much nowadays; even windows 7 and 8 keys can't be used anymore on windows 10 and 11 i believe
@@servissop151 the installer would have accepted it.
Even if he would put that key in, it would fail to activate, regardless if the key is valid or not. The Microsoft servers responsible for validating these keys have been down for a few years now.
Source: I tried it a few days ago on an old Vista laptop with its original product key. Errored out.
@@huuishuu It's the installer he bypassed you don't require internet to input a valid code. Of course it will eventually show as non-activated but the dude googled how to bypass the code in the installer instead of looking at the case.
You can also still call MS on the phone to activate these.
@@servissop151 @endermanch activated windows 11 with an xp product key
My first vista box was a core2quad with 8gb of ram and a 1tb hdd. It ran pretty good there
Bros vista box was better than my cheap windows 10 laptop 😭 well ram wise as my old laptop only had 4 gigs of RAM
I still use it and is my main system the secondary is the Windows 11
bro fr didint even blur the license key
Why would he bother? Its an unsupported OS.
Steam is what i think i had to use to get all the games working. I did have allot of the drivers on disk also on back up drives. Mine plays pretty good up to far cry 3
400'th like, nice video!
If bro opens discord on that shit this would blow up
not really lol
Everything at 100% and you're still so quiet, wow.
yo is that an Acer Aspire T180? I have that exact same one I ripped parts from and turned it into a retro gaming rig haha
3:38 "FUCKME"😂
Good video but seems lower than the others
UA-cam still works even though its "not supported"?
Vista was bad because people wanted that all crappy pcs worked with it like it was xp, and vista was a big jump in hardware requirements. Once hardware was good enought vista was good
Yea it’s good I’m just now on vista it’s works fine
Try supremium a modern chromium browser that works on Windows xp and Vista
Dude, cool video, but the audio volume is very low 😅😅
I run 2 4850s in my xps 630i
that resolution does not look set right xD... u didnt set it all the way up
you should upgrade the ram(If you want)
Where did you download Drag Racer from?
Vista was amazing.
Why is your desktop black
Me a person that's all i got. I love vista
I see a sleeper there mini itx ir matx board
w video
whats the model of that monitor
@nascaraliens Which one? 🤔
mypal browser works on xp allows to use web and is uptodate
mypal isn't up to date, supermium is
Goofy ahh cpu cooler 😂
Vista, a good operating system. 😂😂😂 Vista. 😂😂😂
9:33
Do you want to sell that piece or shit and what type of plug are you using us or er UK
''what is uefi?'' -Smoothie's Lounge