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I thought the CPU meter was a speed meter of the computer, so I always wanted to make it 100% as a kid.
king shit
Wdym, yours wasnt at 100% all the time? :0
rip cpu
@@NicuMihai when i booted it up it was around 60%, when i opened chrome tabs it got higher so i opened so many
the cpu died
@@haisuri rip brothr
I remember back in the day on my Windows XP machine downloading skins to make it look like Vista and thinking I was the shit.
WindowBlinds, with the "neOS" skin.
@@Furious321 I'm 24 minutes late. It was a hell of a time. We customized everything. Windows, Winamp, and anything that supported skins. Good times.
Everyone took their desktop screenshot to show off online
Vishal Gupta's VG24-7 was a godsend.
I did the same and storage icons looked amazing
I actually prefer the glass look of Vista/7 to modern retro flat design.
It's like a window, how they made tabs and stuff look like glass.
That glassy look is coming back, just in a way more modern and clean way.
@@hirnfaser7245 really?
@@hirnfaser7245 source?
@@CNETech well, I didn't mean the outdated mid 2010s glossy theme that windows 7 had (thankfully it's gone). But upcoming design trends aren't completely flat anymore. Take a look at project neon (this was some time ago and it's slowly getting implemented. 8:20 is an example of that).
MacOS also has a lot of apples known gaussian blur + transparency stuff, it's everywhere in the system.
I was 12 years old when Vista launched, and as a kid who didn't care or know about any technical faults in the OS, I always really liked Vista. In fact, both XP and Vista are incredibly nostalgic for me. Playing World of Warcraft: Burning Crusade on the family PC with Vista on it, that bubble screensaver. Just everything about the design was really pretty. And I don't recall my parents complaining too much about it. It was a good time.
I was 7 years old when Vista launched and I feel the exact opposite about it. I still remember the constant program not responding screens and how it felt like the operating system was trying it's very best to make you miserable. I only had it on my own laptop (bought in 2010 I think) and with the older family computer running xp working way better it really left a horrible impression.
same here, in fact, I hated Windows 7 at first when my Vista PC broke. I even bought a Vista PC just for nostalgia
I didn't hate it at the time. My family just used it to do standard stuff like making word documents or browsing the web which it did just fine. I didn't even know it was disliked until much later.
@@NotASummoner weak pc
I was -2
That intro - ad transition was smooth AF 10/10
My Instant Search this has to be sarcasm
hair stood up
agree
THATS FUCKING INTRO....WHO WANNA HEAR IT ANYWAYS...
Don't know about smooth, definitely one of the best though
It’s basically just a windows 7 beta.
Beta's a little bit generous. Let's go with Windows 7 pre alpha.
@@Crit-Chance beta. Windows 7 looks nearly the same as vista. Like it or not. (hard to swallow pill)
@@PaulRakoczi I'm sorry for the confusion, I wasn't talking about the way it looked.
@@PaulRakoczi I'd go with pre-alpha. Vista has higher system requirements than 7 cause Vista is a resource hog using twice the amount of processors than 7. I agree with Sir Caco, for someone who's actually tried both.
@@PaulRakoczi looks, not functions. windows vista is the second worst windows released after millenium
Vista's Movie Maker, was one of the best, easiest to use, "beginner" video editing software out there. Yeah, wmv only, limited resolutions and features, but it was incredibly simple and intuitive and most importantly preinstalled.
Heck, I got the best grade in a high school project thanks to that movie maker
Hell yes, when they removed the timeline I kinda died inside
yes, thank you windows movie maker for the countless edgy naruto and one piece amv's
THIS! I loved Vista once service pack 2 was released. I used vista from 2007-2011. I liked everything about it. Windows 7 felt like a much more polished version of it. People call me crazy for saying Vista was not that bad lol
It is easy to use, and it still works in fine Windows 10...I think it is a part of Windows Essentials 2011? It's not wmv only, but wmv definitely provided the best compression/quality short of using handbrake...
But there are lots of free, professional grade video editors out there now of all skill levels. Da Vinci Resolve is free and now arguably better than Premiere Pro if you want to really edit video...I found it easy enough to move from Movie Maker to full time use after just a few hours of using it, though it's deep enough you could spend years learning all it can do.
When my mom passed last year, I inherited a old computer she hasnt used in years. A dell inspiron 530 running Vista. I decided last night to see if I could get it going and see what's on it. I'm so glad I did. Hundreds of pictures she had saved on it. Alot I've never seen before! Besides a dead cmos battery, it just fired up an ran fine. I put another 2g of ram in it I had laying around, got the wireless card working, put a working internet browser on it and mess with it last night till 3am. I literally told my wife to trash it 6 months ago, so glad she didnt!
☺
the fact that some madlads got modern Web browsers working on Vista with extended kernel
as someone who has lost a countless number of photos because of carelessness, thank god you found those.
@@kamo7293 yes I was very lucky
I acquired a Dell Inspiron 530 last year with a Core 2 Duo that was being thrown away. I threw a cheap SSD, extra RAM and a used GT 610 in it (had these parts laying around, but combined cost would have been around £40 UK if I'd had to buy them), and it ran Windows 10 absolutely perfectly. Pretty good for what was at that point a 12 year old computer. We gave it away to someone who needed it for their kids during the various lockdowns of 2020.
2007: Aero is beautiful but my computer is too weak
2018: Computers are incredibly powerful but there is no Aero today
Blame the whole "mobile first" trend. Microsoft wants to bridge the gap between mobile and desktop and a resource-intensive desktop environment would not help in any way.
You can use custom themes
there is still windows 7 today lol
There's fluent design now and it's lit
Lel. But actually there is a predecessor of that which they called Fluent Design. It's got similar blur effect and it is slowly being implemented more into the shell than Aero was (though Aero when released was already have consistent UI than it is currently at Windows 10, which is still in-progress).
It was gone during Windows 8.X, or at least more like disabled since Aero elements technically exist even in Windows 10. They just became flatter on Win 8.X and less flatter on Win 10.
"OS full of bloat" they have improved very much in Win10, and by that I mean they have filled it with a lot more bloat.
And spyware. Don't forget the MS spyware.
True
@@TexMex421 karen
The European digital rights organization (EDRi)
sums up Windows 10's 45 pages of terms and conditions by saying "Microsoft basically grants itself very broad rights to collect everything you do, say and write with and on your devices in order to sell more targeted advertising or to sell your data to third parties"
-That's spyware lol.
@@TexMex421 thats not what telemetry is for .
but your a karen so you probally wouldnt want to know
My parents laptop, the first computer I really used, had Vista, so it holds a soft spot in my heart.
Same but mine was a desktop pc
Same but mine was made by a company that was shut down the same year of the release.
Same
@@ragemamba2754 compaq?
@@Archivesrayy nah it was from fujitsu siemens, but my dad once had a compaq running xp and i have no idea where it went.
I had zero issues with Windows Vista. I had a mid-grade system that had way more than the basic requirements for the OS. Maybe I just had the right combination of hardware, or maybe I was using peripherals that had updated drives; I'm not sure. Regardless, I never had Vista crash constantly and I was able to run everything I needed with a new pretty OS. I never understood how so many people had a problem with it, because I thought it was pretty decent. Also, as you said, when I ungraded to 7, it felt very similar to Vista with a new theme.
Same, after I went Vista, I never wanted to go back to XP!
The fact you had a built machine made a difference. A guy I was going to school with at the time also loved it and had an insane built computer. He also adored Vista. The problem ultimately was that if you didn't have good hardware, the OS was horrible. I worked in remote support at the time and would cringe because SO many people who had Vista were running it with the minimum requirements for the OS.
Seriously windows 10, 11 and 8 are way worse.
Same
I remember my cousins had vista and when i went over for a sleepover we couldn't even get media player to work on there pc but also that we couldn't use the "main" pc as their father had already got it working as he wanted as was scared that us trying to use mp3's or the cd drive would screw everything up and end in him having wasted months of troubleshooting
That beginning is one of the only things on this channel that actually looked like it was shot with a RED
Sharky Sharklops it’s the black bars bro 😂 CiNaMaTiC
? Clearly colour grading and different lighting were what made the look.
Hey man if you could buy a couple of REDs and use it as a tax write off you sure the fuck would.
It's not the camera, but lighting that truly makes a difference
I love how bad the color noise and patterning is in that scene. Geez guys you can't invest in Neat Video Denoiser?
I admit I loved the look of vista, it was such an upgrade on XP which was amazing at the time.
Shame newer versions look like horse shit
XP with Paradise or Zune theme
I honestly didn't care for it. It seemed like a lot of unnecessary stuff. I'm not even sure what the point of transparencies is other than to try to look futuristic. It added no functionality and just hurt weaker systems.
@@InfernosReaper The transparency alone was a 'step forward' for me, I was around 11 when it came out so it looked futuristic at the time and I personally loved playing with the widgets. It's mainly nostalgia cus it was a pain to use, but it's kinda fun remembering playing with all the compatibility settings. - Shows how fun my childhood was I guess.
I was an adult when Vista came out, but I suspect even 11 year old me would've been like "what's the point of this?" Then again, 11 year old me was use to the slow, clunky UIs of Windows 9x and System 7.x operating systems of the 90s.
Me: (Downloading Steam as a kid)
*Vista*: Are you sure you want to download this?
Me: Sure
*Vista*: Are you sure about that?
Me: Yes
*Vista*: Are you sure that you are sure?
Me: Yes
*Vista*: Well, we wont let you because it's a virus.
Me: What?
Seems like they are pushing games for windows live
I had Steam on vista, I don't remember having this issue...
John r/woooooosh
hahahhaha
@@Windows-nt9ts I'm beginning to get really annoyed at whooosh my. Especially when people use it wrong, like you.
I mean, the main reason nobody talked about Windows system requirements from Windows 7 to 10 is that they barely changed since Vista. On the Japanese image board 2chan, "XP-tan" - A manga personification of the OS - was often depicted with an empty rice bowl with "memory" written on it. She was considered resource-hungry and yet Vista required SIXTEEN times more bytes of RAM. No wonder it left such a bad first impression.
Also, not having drivers ready on day one of a massively delayed OS release is such an Nvidia move.
ok
Listen... my main issue with Vista was that you could literally delete the recycle bin. I definitely wasn’t the only one at the time who accidentally got rid of the entire recycle bin when all you wanted to do, was empty it.
Where tf does it go tho
@@m1co294 the recycle bin obviously smh
@@mainframehacker I think you mean the recursive bin
you can always go into desktop settings and unhide it tho
but it was easier than going in desktop icons and disabling it (you can tick the recycle bin to restore it from the recycle bin)
One major factor missed was that Vista was at the forefront of the 32-bit to 64-bit transition. Almost everyone was using 32-bit XP, and while MS released an x64 edition of XP Pro in 2005, almost nobody used it. Vista was out just at the time PCs with 4GB or more of RAM started being sold in consumer and business PCs, and running a 64-bit Windows because required. However, 64-bit drivers for a lot of hardware simply didn't exist, and took a while to come out for existing hardware, if at all. Windows Vista 32-bit could use the XP drivers, but Vista 64 couldn't. So a lot of people brought home new PCs, pre-loarded with Vista 64, to find that their existing printers and other peripherals didn't work on them.
This also affected a lot of older programs, which may be only 16-bit. Vista 32 could run 16-bit programs, but Vista 64 couldn't. So a lot of "legacy" software, especially in the enterprise space, was left running on XP PCs.
By the time Windows 7 was released, the transition to 64-bit was largely complete. A lot of 64-bit drivers existed at this point, and people were more likely to have gotten rid of any older hardware/software that would only work on 32-bit Windows. So Vista weathered the brunt of the "growing pains"of the 64-bit transition, and Windows 7 got to be released and used without a lot of people complaining about their older hardware/software "not working."
Amen
On top of all that, anyone holding on to old software could use the Windows 7 compatibility mode to run it, although that resulted in mixed outcomes. Really though, anyone still using 16 bit software that wasn't a game could run it on a virtual machine of XP or even 98.
Been forced back to Win 7 recently, on it as I type, It's not Vista, obvs, but it's better than 10. I'm not looking forward to going back to 10. In fact, I might even try one of them Starter Linuxes, see if they're any good.
I used Xp64 for a long time. It was great. I was basically the stability of server 2003 with the XP64 bit OS, and I had zero problems with it.
There are so many hardware reasons that made Vista come off worse than it was. Comparing the cheapo supermarket PCs I had for XP SP2 and Vista, it was stepping from a P4 Celeron with 512 MB RAM to a dual core Core-derived Pentium with 3 GB. The Pentium still holds up today in an emergency and runs Windows 10 just fine while the P4 is practically unusable. The step from having cheap laptops as fast as two-year-old high end desktops means that the upgrade experience was very different from earlier versions. On the other hand, it means the new Vista-derived OSs hold up much better on new hardware. XP was running fairly well then but doesn't do any better on newer hardware whereas Vista/7 can still take advantage of the latest hardware.
"So, was Windows Vista really that bad?"
Linus: *Yes and No together makes the YO*
yesn't
so its yes
Nes
Yo
Or nes
Can I just say out of all of themes windows has experimented with, I love the look of vista more than 7. It just has that calming yet punchy colors that really grew on me
The taskbar is much prettier than Windows 7. I love the glass windows but the see through taskbar in 7 is ugly to me.
"yes ...and no. Which makes a yo"
~Linus Techtip
Ha ha
Linustian
lmao
I laughed so hard on this
OMAGGHUF
The good thing about having a high end pc in 2008, hardly had any problems with windows vista ever
Ya
Same thing here! I ran it on a Phenom X6 1090T in 2010 and it was sooo nice
4:22 I remember seeing Monitors, Yes, Monitors shipping with 'Works With Windows Vista" Stickers.
My keyboard had those stickers
Designed for Windows XP
Compatible with Windows Vista
Works with Windows 7
Ayy my monitors have those stickers
My old monitor had that sticker
What....... _monitors?????_ Now _this_ is news to me!! 😳😳😳
I was in high school when Vista changed to 7. I remember loving XP and finding Vista janky, and then seeing Windows 7 come out and feeling it was Vista with bug fixes. 10 felt like 8 without the shit full screen start menu.
lol, win 10 still has the full screen start menu if you enable it and I personally love and use it.
You can actually, re-enable the full-screen start menu in Windows 10
XP, in it's day, WAS totally the business. Lean and fast and not remotely bloatware.
Windows 7 feels like an outdated version of windows vista
I like windows to this and still use it
"After this word.. from our sponsor"
Me: *tap tap tap tap tap*
Mood.
only mobile users would understand this..
@@DanyPeter nah i tap to the right arrow key as well
Wow. You skip the video. Thanks for letting everyone know. This is such a dick move.
@colin3ds sometimes yes. But good god imagine how douchey that sounds.
Them: make a video with a lot of effort put into it from multiple people
People like op: haha look I'm going to skip this thing you've created and then post about it for likes
Nobody's saying you can't skip I'm just saying like, don't be fucking rude about it. Like, literally telling them you're skipping their content? What, do you not like it? Do you not want them to get sponsors? Cause that's the message they get when they see this. It's just so rude.
Really? I thought Windows ME was the worst OS.
I really liked Vista.
I don't even remember dogging vista. ME was the butt of all jokes.
@@BRad-mn5pk for reals. I remember day 1: booted the computer, illegal kernel execution, EVERYTIME I BOOTED. Also, tons of other illegal executions, incompatibilities, and it made me want to go back to Win 98 SE. To this day, I have no idea what was wrong, but I hated ME for failing to work...
@@luja805 OUTDATED!! Windows 98 is no longer a secure platform.
@@luja805 I've heard complaints about ME but yours is the first I've read stating why. Personally, I never had any issues with ME and always wondered why it was hated.
Edit: I had Vista Pro and Vista Ultimate...no problems there either. What made me angry was that it seemed like I only had Vista for about a year and Win 7 was released.
You don't know the pain of windows CE
I will always love Vista purely because of nostalgia, this was the first OS I ever used on my grandpa’s PC.
same as me, until i fed up and install windows 7 due to discontinue support on most (esp browsers make it unusable). I can reinstall vista anytime whenever i want in my grandma laptop
First OS? When did I get old 😂
would you like to run a survey ?
also, the computer shall reboot in 10 minutes...
Nostalgia has blinded you.
The main problem was that they were coming from windows xp and those pc's generally had 256mb or 512mb ram. Vista loved memory since it could load more programs into memory and back in the day 2gb of ram was so expensive so not many people could afford it well atleast here in southafrica. So basically it ran well with more memory and if you were lucky to have drivers for your hardware.
and then the thing with the core 2 duos where people would stick to their Pentium instead..
I had pc with amd Athlon and 4 gb ram. Vista was still crap.
I remember when MS suspended sales of XP, a lot of manufacturers got stuck with a ton of budget XP machines still in process. For a year or two after that, there were a lot of Vista Basic machines in the market that had no real hope of running right with the hardware they had as the manufacturers ran through components meant for budget XP machines. That kinda thing in a new purchase goes a long way towards building a bad reputation.
RAM was actually very affordable in those days. At least, comparatively to how 16gb (8x2) used to cost earlier this year. I remember buying a 512 stick for no more than $60.
Africa have computers? where do they plug it in, in the trees?
"Was Vista that bad?"
"Yes. And no. Which together make yo, because, yo man, for real"
Is this a Vsauce or LTT video?
Yes
YO
No. And yes. Which together make... NES ???
@@lolikawaii5865 or NOS
It's an LTT video... or is it?
Yes + No = *YO*
-Linus(2018)
No + Yes = Nes?
Yes + No = SNOW
@@WellBeSerious12 DO THE MARIO
I actually really liked it. I got it after Service Pack One though so most bugs were ironed out. But it really was a huge leap forward from XP
It had MS Paint, so not in my opinion
@@GiovanniSmith tru
Hahaha 69 likes
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not as bad as WINDOWS ME
You're everywhere
not as bad as Windows 8, the operating system that couldn't decide if it was mobile or desktop urrrggghhh
Windows 8 was not good, but 8.1 was awesome and reliable
I still run 8.1 on my gaming rig. Had a terrible experience with 10 at launch. Rendered my laptop unusable. Its better now but I've missed the free update window now.
@@TheStuntastik Don't upgrade to Windows 10, it's bloated asf.. Windows 8.1 is still awesome even today!
I've got the same shitty experience than you with W10, in 2016, one fucking bsod per day..
@@sheppardpat47 Actually, the "Embedded" version of Windows 10 (the one that works on ARM and RISC chips) is pretty lightweight, and if you're happy to move entirely into the "new world" of UWP apps (what we used to call "Metro" or "Modern UI" apps) then it's pretty snappy, and functional too. It's the people hanging on to classic Win32, and particularly the x86 version, apps which bloats Windows today. Most Linux / Unix, even Mac OS Mojave have dropped support for 32-bit applications these days. If development is active, the app can be rebuilt for x64 from source with little to no change at all. If not, you probably shouldn't be using it on a machine exposed to an internet connection. The native x86 version of Windows 10 isn't *too* flabby on disk, but it's big enough that you don't get much memory left from your maximum 3.5Gig. (unless you have an x86 system which will boot UEFI and use PAE properly, and they're few and far between)
lol..
Windows 10 is better than the hybrid trash windows 8 and 8.1
Windows 8 is already abandoned and Windows 8.1 still works fine.
It doesn't matter cause the human ear can only smell 4mb of software.
Bro....
Bro....
Yeah, ikr. Why do people get this soooooo wrong!? 😤😡😡😠😤😤😡😠😤😤😡😡👿👿😠😡😤
My nose can smell 70GBs of mouse dpi
You mean only 4 mb of hardware?
I remember feeling about vista "i prefer how searching worked in xp" and having no other complaints. So i was always abit confused by people saying it's bad. But i guess it makes sense if it worked differently depending on your hardware
Hard disk got bad sector's so bought new one and the computer guy installed vista on my Pentium d 2.33ghz 768 mb ram motherboard integrated graphics. Kept freezing crashing blue screen. The pc worked for another 4+ years after I had him put in windows xp. Cost me 1500rs but worth it.
I liked Windows Vista back then but I hated that Microsoft made Halo 2 only playable on Vista; leaving XP users out. It made the multiplayer terrible because not a lot of people owned Vista back then.
you must've had a pretty badass system back then.
That was because dx10 was not available on xp, and halo 2 required dx10 to work.
Its because of game support not on purpose. Windows xp didnt have the proper DX10
@@ixeee_cal Halo 2 wasn't using 10, I believe your thinking of Gears of War. Also Halo 2 runs fine on XP via hacks.
This kind of comments is why Vista's reputation is so bad. Uninformed hate
Windows Vista was on my first Computer when I was 12 years old. So much memories and it never crashed, thats why I never understood the negative comments. Vista will always have a place in my heart.
Mine lagged, but it would lag with any os. Celeron m 1,73 single core
The complaints were from people with low end machines. Vista was too demanding for most PCs.
@@tedtheawesome5803 Bro, i had a 150$ PC
@@shotbyrima mine was MSI Megabook VR700. 1gb ram,80 gb hdd 950gma video. I lately installed windows xp, than windows 8.1 and it was even better. I stopped using it in 2013. For low end systems I would install linux, unless you want to play some old games like frozen throne, starcraft and diablo II.
@@carmieologyThis windows Vista is 100% installed on HDD there is no way to run property any modern OS including linux without severe lag or at least considerable delay. My point is you either need to change this HDD or if you have place run both drive SSD for windows 10. + HDD( You can place the older hard drive where CD drive is now, the new SSD goes where your HDD is currently. In both cases there is no point in formatting and deleting Vista paritition( at least keeping it in sehlf storage for some day) My advice is to go for dual boot if you want to keep both Vista and win 10.
next up: was windows 8 THAT bad?
it was bad.. win 10 is better but performance wise only
hell yeah it was!
Well i didnt have any issues with windows 8.1 thats why i didnt update to windows 10 version. In my experience you must keep the system that works for you
It was bad from my experience. Don't know whether it was from a bad install or updates but it became increasingly useless as I kept losing functionality. Later found out my file system had failed. Pretty much forced me back to 7.
yes
After Windows 8, 10, and 11, I miss the good old days of Windows Vista and 7...
A large part of the success of the early years of my IT business was reformatting Vista away and replacing with XP, then 7.
Second was the horrible service provided by Best Buy...It Elsewhere. Third was Dell's convoluted Website and ordering system.
You forgot the most important thing. VISTA CAME WITH 3D CHESS!
King0Jingaling i used to play it all the time
Inb4 i got minecraft running at 10-15fps
Simon Aarekol f for respect.
AND MAHJONG AND INKBALL AND PURBLE PLACE
true classics
vista came with everything.
Purble Place for me hahaha and 3D Pinball and MS Paint on XP
And with bluescreen...
Windows 7 is Windows Vista with all the problems fixed.
@@nicka8618 worth it
AyYYYYYY BIIIINNNGOGOOOOOO
@Dindu Linux sucked back then for the average user and Macs were $1000usd. I think most people can wait a couple minutes for half the price. Go make a hot pocket and come back.
@Olleke Bolleke Because you probably have a new system with an ssd. Back then it took my PC 5 minutes to start Vista and 7, about 3 to start XP, and when I switched to 8 it wasn't even a minute.
and unfortunately, a few features tucked away to never be seen again
The intro is a true masterpiece, i think they should make a movie out of this lol
My most favorite intro yet. The way they zoom in on linus' face when they mentioned "Vista"... Pure gold . Sure made me lmao.
I agree 100%
agreee best intro yet
Wow, never had a highlighted comment before. Thanks LTT, means a lot guys. Cheers!
Vista = YES + NO
Vista = YO.
lol that's some solid logic there Linus.
NES
YO!
Vista = YO
VTEC = YO
Vista = VTEC
Huh, the more you know...
I loled at that 😂
@@VAX1970
Nintendo Entertainment System?
It's a joke, don't take it seriously, Vista's good
Part of the problem was computer sellers putting vista on computers that were meant for XP and only just had the min specs to run vista.
So the minimum specs should have been higher.
Or maybe Vista shouldn't have used so much memory. After all, Windows 7 didn't use as much memory.
@@garethrowlands That's because Microsoft addressed the issue (complaint) of Vista using too much memory ; so they probably disabled things from Vista to accommodate the users still using XP > thus making the upgrade to 7 possible.
On my rig at that time, Vista was using 1 GB of RAM when idle, while 7 was using 750-800 MB.
But in my case at least, I could play games on Vista without crashing/ BSODs, while on 7 I always experienced BSODs for some reason, especially when overclocking ! (but with overclocking also on Vista, all was OK)
@@manupainkiller Nailed on the head comment there. I think simply Vista was a bit ahead of its time, especially hardware wise.
they still do that kind of stuff even on to this day ... selling old computers with new software or OS thats not ment to be sold together with it in the first place !
4:02 reminds me of new windows 11 hardware requirements
"Outdated janky looking UI"
Dont talk about my best features you betcha
sheesh dude you lag as f
@@urtooslow4415 O_O SHUT UP
7 is better than 10 hands down
Meh compiz fusion had way better effects at the time and could run on older gpu's....
ur windows 7 not windows vista lolollololol
Microsoft in 2008: Windows Vista "The *Mojave* Experiment"
Apple in 2018: macOS *Mojave*
Illuminati confirmed. They predicted it
Fallout: *Mojave* Wasteland
RT E patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
The game was rigged from the start
Android 2028 Mojave 45.567.1221
Kudos on the new and different intro guys!
Enjlishbf
vista and 7 just bring back fond memories of middle school, early UA-cam and interesting internet culture that seems forgotten these days
Personally Vista was fine in my experience, although I had built a system strong enough to run it right. As LTT touched on, part of the problem was Vista was indeed resource heavy, but that PC manufacturers were selling crappy spec'd systems with not enough RAM or CPU power to properly run it right. So it further got a bad rap because that's all your average consumer bought, cheap prebuilts.
Windows Vista Capable, and then inside:
P4 @2.8GHz
512MB of RAM
80GB IDE Hard Drive
SATA DVD Reader
Intel 945G Graphics with 1MB of Video Memory
My system back then never had an issue with Vista.
It's amazing what a decent enough CPU (literally an Athlon 3800, then a Phenom x4), 2gb of RAM, and a discreet (even if objectively shitty) GPU could do in the era of systems being sold with 1gb or even 768mb of RAM but carrying that _Vista Compatible_ sticker.
People that installed it over their existing XP machines but didn't check the hardware req's beforehand sure got loud about it being garbage. SP1 helped a lot, but disabling aero and the gadget sidebar were always the things I'd recommend to folks.
I bet none of you are talking about a laptop as opposed to a desktop PC. Cause laptops back in the days, I felt, suffered the worst from Windows vista since most manufacturer had vista as the default OS and the average priced ~$800 to $1000 for a laptop was not ready for vista.
You build an OS to run on the hardware that people will have. Requiring more expensive hardware is bad engineering.
Intel is one of the big reasons why vista seemed so bad. Intel GMA 950 (945 aswell) was to slow and lacked essential features to properly run Aero, but intel FORCED microsoft to give them the full "vista capable" sticker. Intel didnt feel right to get the vista basic sticker, as that video chip was so common at that day.
Also, add to this that the computer came with GMA 945 video, they also had 128, or even 64, mb of ram. Thats riny for even windows XP, making computers with that ammount run vista like crap.
I remember working support... "vista capable" PC... user complaining of extremely slow performance.
Damn thing only had 256megs of ram...
Uhh, my laptop has 3072 megabytes!
My parents XP machine (I use it now for some CD ROM games) had 512 megs. I upgraded it to 2 gigs, runs great either way.
@n z right, what I'm saying is that the XP machine had more RAM than a "Vista certified" one. Which is crazy.
@n z the biggest problem was that XP was advertised to run on 256MB whit 512MB as recommended at launch.
problem was 512MB was in practices the minimum whit 1024MB as he recommended. and XP was a 32 bit system meaning 2.8ish GB was the cap. and 2038 as its late date before its calendar goes bonkers).
added to the fact that many system at XP launch day ran windows98 and 95 that had a sort of cap at 256+64MB(it had a really weird RAM cap) I think resulting in most system only having 256MB at best. 256 been the bare minimum for XP when it should be 512... que XP crashing because of out of RAM errors.
I had to use Windows Vista for work at the time.
As long as you had plenty of RAM, it was OK
...ish.
I remember when my parents both got new laptops that had Vista on them. I thought it looked really beautiful. I was only like 8 at the time, but as far as I can remember, they didn’t have problems with it. In contrast, I also remember when my mom got her next new laptop which came with windows 8 and we could hardly figure out how to use it 😅
Windows 8 is the worst! Vista's problem was hogging up CPUs and lack of drivers!
"It looks almost exactly like windows 7"
I lived to say those words, thank you Linus
Actually it's the other way around.
@Christopher Surillo Yeah, those were awesome and very innovative compared to Windows XP
Windows 7 is the shit, I love it!!!
It surely doesnt run as well as windows 7 though
@@friedrichii.aliasdergroe9233 :)) The service pack 2 make Vista run as good as Windows 7.
A random day in 2008
Gamer: my pc can run vista with no lag
another Gamer: wow you must've got a GTX 295
Me in 2020 : ugh, games on Windows 10 are soooo laggy.
Gamer : Check my TITAN RTX.
wow i remember the gtx 295 that is OG
The gtx 295 came out in 2009 tho
Ethereal I don’t remember what year it came out. But I remember in 2008-ish I was looking in future shop at the GTX 260 And the 295 caught my eye
@@tucker12435 release was in January 2009 I remember.
It's almost as if Vista was the beta version of Windows 7, and Windows 8 was the beta version of Windows 10
There was Windows 8.1 between Windows 10 and Windows 8, and 8.1 was good, very good
Actually though, like Windows 8 is just a half-baked version of Windows 10
Which kinda makes me think that the beta version of 10 must've been so much of a basket case as they seemed to have chosen not to release it, that being Windows 9.
@@stephenhunter70 I don't think Windows 9 existed as its own product though, I feel like they were designing 9 but decided to call it 10 instead. But there were beta builds (Build 9697 and 9834) that were originally planned for Windows 8.1 but then pushed to 9 and renamed to 10 before public betas began. There were many flaws with the Windows 10 betas. One beta bricked my laptop and I had to revert to Windows 8.1 with a clean install. But by the time the RTM arrived, I feel like most of the issues had been ironed out.
@@Eric-qe6xz whatever the case, what I heard was they chose not to release it! I personally like to believe that it was so bad it didn't even make their beta testing.
vista had its flaws but no one can beat vista's aero graphics period
Vista was the RTX of its generation
Very useful, but just overpriced and medias are constantly making fun of both vista and rtx to destroy their reputation, for fun.
Brilliant but an utterly borked launch with terrible consumer support? Sounds about right
I'm waiting for the next line of NVIDIA GPU's. Hopefully it's called LTX Graphics Card
@@namelessguy199 RTX isn't useful yet.....the technology needs to be much more refined.A 2080ti runs ray tracing at 1080p & barely manages 60fps...lol....nvidia should have waited till they refined it much more
@@nahush6299 not even full raytracing either. Just cherry picked surfaces that the devs choose. Sometimes not even shadows
Best damn intro. More Cinematic Linus please, your RED doesn't need to be a paper weight for vlogs..
500% agreed
The only thing that killed it was the sponsor
Reclusive Eagle yesssss!
@@Evtrex13 it actually made me laugh because Linus knows how awkward it is and plays with it
Windows ME (Mistake Edition) was a nightmare.
LOL.. Very true. :-)
But remember ME was the one which came with msconfig command. ☝️😊👌
Incorrect msconfig was introduced with Windows 98 not ME.
I loved millennium edition still have it on an old Frankenstein Compaq
The pinball and movie maker.
I remember my parents buying a Vista computer the same year Vista was released. I remember being in awe with all the UI and features it had compared to XP. One day the system got corrupted and we ended up switching to XP. It felt like a transition to stone age, but I realized just how much faster the PC was in XP vs Vista
XP is faster but Vista is nicer to look at
@@mustasheolll2020man in my machine the vista is faster
@@mustasheolll2020the only windows beat the vista in my computer is the 2000
- Was Windows Vista THAT bad?
- *YO*
yo man for real, i threw up a little
I thought he meant Yes Ofcourse XD
no it wasn't that bad really. the mac book killers launched with it...they didn't think it was that bad apparently lol
*NES*
@Sally Smith absolutely I had Millennium and seen it. It was Awesome too. I am GOD of OS FUCKERRRR.
In the quarantine online classes I realize that my teachers still use XP
I did my internship on our university tech services. And I found out that most of the other colleges still use xp and vista for the faculty machines, and most of them were still using core2duos.
Even more suprising is you can still legally activate them with no issues using the keys.
@@carlangelo653 my principal uses a even older windows which I Don't recognize
@@umeshsonkar4177 that means ur school is cheap
@@atnm 😂😂
Nice.
Using xp for almost 5 years, then changed to vista and was like "wow...is this the future?"...
Xp to 7 : WOW this is the Future
Visto to Windows 8 : WOW, Windows Is Trash ...
Windows 10, a mix of 7 and 8 ...: WOW a mix of Love and Hate ...
@@serenemountain6769 me on win8: what have they done to ma boi?...
@@alanherrera5421 my feelings exacly , i could never touched the stuff, windows 10 it's so so, but its better then 8 ...
Serene Mountain Vista isn’t trash
@@someguywithmtndew5691 at the time of it's release it was ! it was not optimized for the main stream pc's of that particular time period ! only the last version of Vista had the same performance of Windows 7 !
There for it depends on your point of view !
Like i stated at the time vista was released,most pc's like 90% of the ones being sold, were in a slow down because they could not handle vista, for the time it was a heavy OS , that was later fixed ! For me personally it was very late, by the time they fixed i had 7 installed !
If your pc at the time of vistas release had at least 4gb of ram or above, well you were one of the lucky ones ! most retail stores had pcs from 2 to 3gb of ram with vista installed , with extreme slowdowns !
Even though i had a custom build of 8 gb of ram at the time, i pretty much saw vista for what it was ... a promise like Windows Me and Windows 8 !
I'm still running Windows 7 ... and I actually liked Windows ME.
I still remember the first time I upgraded to 7 from Vista and I was like "*gasp* They've perfected Windows!"
Windows Vista makes me feel at home, it just brings me back to a time that was at least in my life... simpler... better. Yes, I get nostalgic when I see windows vista, I'm sorry. And to all the haters just remember that it wasn't windows 8.
It wasn't ME. Windows 8 wasn't that bad and 8.1 was very good.
@@piadas804 Except the whole desktop/full screen app clusterfuck and that horrible mouse gesture to shutdown
@@kaasbaas9532 I'm talking about speed and stability. I loved the 8.1 interface, but I'm not counting it because a lot of people hated too. 8.1 was very fast and stable, that's why it's so good.
@@piadas804 On my desktop everything is fine, my friends with 144hz monitors had problems, the display server every distro uses is 20 years old and shitty. I've never had a good laptop experience tho, tried on my 4 most recent laptops. atleast shitty battery life and thermals, even after fighting with TLP for a day. Which laptop do you use ?
@@kaasbaas9532 I built a new desktop 1 month ago. My old laptop (Lenovo G405) still there, but I only use it occasionally, since it's very slow.
I love these cinematic openings
I hate them i think they are stupid
@@kennethgrepl3339 well your life seems pretty sad then
@@kennethgrepl3339 you must be no fun then.
@HimKioo I mean, you could just agree with a comment supporting your opinion rather than disagreeing with one you don't like. Think additively.
What most people don't realize is that Windows Vista and Windows 7 are essentially the same operating system. But because of the blemish on the Vista name, what would have just been a major service pack for Vista was released as Windows 7.
Exactly
@El-ahrairah Windows 7 was essentially the Vista equivalent to XP SP2, which was an update so large, it was almost a complete rewrite of the OS; so huge in fact, you could actually install XP from scratch just from the Service Pack. However, M$ marketing would tell a different story.
@El-ahrairah I started using it in july of '08, and I'm 100% positive It was perfectly fine then. I guess SP1+ it was.
@Rock Light That's your experience.
(I had the near-reverse experience, with Vista being near perfect and W7 having constant crashes and OS problems, but it turned out that it was a graphics problem).
I Don't deny your PC problems, but this is not what made vista's bad reputations. Frequent réinstallations and getting hacked are not at all specific to Vista (in fact when it comes to malwares XP was definitely worse).
However, vista's specific problems (the ones that got it a bad reputation) were:
-underpowered PCs receiving the "vista capable" label. The PC industry had stagnated during the XP era as there was no urge to keep Moving forward, and so it was underprepared for Vista. (it is telling that low-end PC specs nearly quadrupled between '07 and '08)
-driver compatibility problems (Vista had a new driver system that didn't mesh well with most early 2000s quick&dirty drivers).
-the user account control. This was a necessary security measure (for all the users out there downloading every cr*p they found online), but it was quite annoying, especially if you knew well what you were doing.
-"memory hog". (vista was not actually hogging the memory, it was managing it in an unfamiliar way, but it still looked like memory hog)
-maybe, the implementation of DRMs. I mean, the FSF made a lot of noise about it in '07, but barely anyone else mentioned it. It was probably not the problem.
However, crashes and malwares and BSODs are definitely not vista's specific problem.
In fact, the BSOD is not a problem, but a solution; and if Microsoft removed it from Windows, then you'd be able to continue working (without saving of course) or playing or whatevering for a couple more minutes and then your PC would commit autodestruction.
also, a Vista SP3 that had the W7 system améliorations, the superbar and libraries, the new paint and wordpad, and the theme system and MP4/MOV support but without all the downsizing
(moviemaker, photogallery, mail, calendar, meetingspace, Inkball, less sample content, file stacking, dinosaur pointers, less screensavers, the contacts gadget, help videos, dreamscene, etcaetera…)
and with the vista look-and-feel (dark blue-green gradient with the animated "flare" thing)
Would have been the AWESOMEST.
I, personally, NEVER had a problem with Vista. It did everything I needed to do and didnt give me too much hassle. I was also anywhere from 9 to 13 when I was using it and im 24 now. But everyone else I know of in my age range that has used vista, HATES it, and I truthfully dont get why.
because it launched incomplete and ran like shit on the computers it was supposed to run on.
Watching this from a Vista desktop and my OS is offended.
so it gave a blue screen tantrum?
😂😂😂😂
bro upgrade
Extended support ended three years ago. You should really upgrade.
I just wrote an increadibly big story about how much I love Vista, but even I know its time to upgrade. I couldn't live without Windows 10 today. It's not even that hard to run. I can only imagine how terrible the rest of your specs are. That being said, if you can't upgrade, any computer is better than no computer.
Vista: was it bad?
Windows8: let's make an OS that sucked beyond question.
Apart from Windows 8 having such a really bad ui for non touch devices, ive heard that it was also a bit unstable for some. But 8.1 fixed most of the problems just like what Windows 7 did to Vista.
Windows 8.1 was the best os
@@juanzambrano1760 I'm talking about a touchscreen device like the surface pro. I prefer using windows 8 instead of windows 10 on a touchscreen device. In my opinion, windows 8 is a lot better in that way, BTW it's a lot faster than win 10 probably because of less bloat-ware. Yes, I can agree that using it on a desktop is just bad.
@@lizzybach4254 On touch devices it maybe but on desktop win7 is the best except for the fact that it's support is ended
@@vrajeshpc It is the best for touch devices. Its start menu does not look hideous compared to win 10 and it has a lot of gestures. And also it is very fast.
0:39 thanks for the free windows 98 license!
Who even uses that anymore? Lmfao
@@Austin-wz5xk nobody, i wish good luck to anyone searching for an iso file online, it's just a joke
@@nachomartin471 WinWorld is a good source to get old-school Windows iso files. That said, joke or not, I wouldn't use Windows 9.x for anything in 2019...talk about outdated junk.
@@Austin-wz5xk i use it on virtual machines
@@luminumlx2604 If it's to experiment with older versions of Windows, I can see why. I have a XP virtual machine, but I hardly ever use it because, well, it's archaic at this point.
The latest version of Mac OS is called Mojave
Coincidence?
You decide
So the joke is that macOS Mojave is really just macOS High Sierra?
Windows Mojave? Idk why they decided to name macOS that.
XenonLegend Perhaps you noticed the last several Mac OS releases are named after California landmarks... such as the Mojave desert?
Dresling I’m pretty sure he was talking about how Windows Mojave in 2008 has the same name as macOS Mojave in 2018
@@Dresling They shoulda held out on Yosemite, that named deserves better. But in all honesty It probably was better and had more tools built in than the current version of MacOS. I stopped using macs when I realized that updrading OS's was progressively making the computer stupider.
I remember torrenting Vista during the first month of launch. My laptops wireless card wasn't compatible anymore and I was stuck with broken version of Vista. That taught me a valuable lesson in torrenting... Just stick to porn.
Couldn't have plugged it into the router with a network cable? You fucking idiot lol
@@JordanJank Thats what I thought. A BFI. Big fucking idiot.
@@ark_knight funny think, I had this mobo with a killer nic chip that needed a driver install you needed to install before it could connect to the internet, and this was over ethernet...when I upgraded from windows xp to windows 7 the bloody cd didnt have the new drivers and so the only way to get it to work was to dl the new driver...tell me how would anyone dl something without being able to connnect
@@jlei8aX another pc and an USB flashdrive?
@@gabberskilzz yeah man all households have multiple pcs man cuz you know we all have wads of cash laying around
I definitely couldn’t say much about how Vista actually worked day to day, as I wasn’t a heavy user, but I have to say I always loved the aesthetic of Vista.
I disagree with him 8 was the worst launch
The worst by far. 8 is the only Windows release I've had that literally corrupted itself and stopped working the same day it was installed.
Windows Aero was absolutely gorgeous, hands down the best part of Vista. It's a damn shame they decided to completely change it from Windows 8 onward.
I loved the aesthetic as well. I thought I was the only one 😂😂
Hence the name "vista". It's still today the most beautiful version of windows. The love that went into this project should have been met with a well planned launch, with developers given a beta copy a couple years in advance.
With the new features of Vista, criticism has surfaced concerning the use of battery power in laptops running Vista, which can drain the battery much more rapidly than Windows XP, reducing battery life. With the Windows Aero visual effects turned off, battery life is equal to or better than Windows XP systems.
I remember loving the windows aero and the built in games
Tinker was like Qbert spiritual successor.
today i finished my very first pc i'm so happy
XP had the best games. No questions asked.
*3d pinball new game sound plays*
The intros are getting better and better lol
Hell yeah
Cameras are getting better and better*
Sponsorships are getting and better
I usually like the video just after the intro 😂
if linus did every intro like this i would probably watch every single video
@@magemor7827 stop crying
I think just the opposite
@@magemor7827 Because he doesn't know who voiced/wrote/edited this video? So he says Linus? Stfu
My wife's HP Pavillion laptop came with Vista back in 2009 and she loved it and it worked great. It now runs comfortably with Ubuntu due to a Windows update that killed the system. Found out later it was an update that had to be done through media player to not kill things.
I loved the Windows Vista UI :>
Me too. I thought it was eye candy. It's the one thing I miss about Vista
You know the UI on Windows 7 is basically the same, right?
And 7 is a straight upgrade over Vista in every conceivable way.
Window's 10 UI, in my opinion, is an improvement on Windows Vista/7/8 as it took some of the best parts of those. There are some issues with it in my opinion and I mainly like it based on an aesthetics reason as well as nostalgia.
In 2018/19 too, i love it
@@sqawkypig1008 I honestly liked the Windows 7 UI more than Windows 10, and a lot more than Windows 8 & 8.1 UIs. That is, until some parts of the Win 7 UI stopped working after installing updates (even with a fresh Win. 7 install). I also liked that the driver updates were separate from the security updates. Even back then, Window's reputation for selecting the correct driver when updating was a little dicey. If Windows said a driver was out of date (for certain components), I would check the website for the hardware and often enough, the driver that Windows suggested was also out of date. There were even a few cases where Windows would replace an up to date driver with an older one. Windows Update does a better job now (and because some hardware vendor websites suck), that I now kind of trust the driver selection. Yet, that's more because some hardware vendor websites' support pages suck; they suck so bad even their component search features will show different results based on which browser you're using (MSI).
Windows users: annoyed by user account control
macOS/Linux users: (typing password) really?
ikr, windows users were too exposed to low security practices with XP that they were not used to face additional confirmation for better security.
That's why I use suicide linux. One mistake & the system completely nukes itself. I have issues.
@@xSlappykinkaidx Wait. Hold up. Suicide Linux?
@@raki31 It's an old gimmicky Debian fork distro of linux that completely breaks itself if you make an error in the terminal, it auto changes it to rm -rf / & destroys the root directory. Meaning for example, if I mistype Sudo apt-get update as suco apt-get update, it nukes the whole OS.
@@Yassir.A.P. The problem was the Windows engineers took security a little too far. Even as an admin of the system, which honestly nobody should be running with admin privileges all the time, you couldn't kill a program that wasn't responding. Only SYSTEM could do that and you couldn't become SYSTEM no matter what you tried. Their solution to this was to literally reboot the machine and try again. Maybe they put out a patch for it later but after five attempts to get Firefox to start with a reboot needed each time, I ripped Vista out and re-installed XP.
"And that's really when the excrement hit the air circulation unit" -Linus 2018
When the solid biological waste impacted the Aperture Science Rotational Gaseous Fluid Transfer Device.
I read this just as he said it WHAT THE FUCK
just a channel
oh I thought god meant it this way my bad
The intro made me think that I was watching a computer horror movie... with Linus..
I still like the windows 7 and even vista menu better than windows 10
After years of having windows 10...
You just need to get use to it, we live in modern times now, Windows 10 is designed to feel like your smart phone and tablet style UI do. I personally love the way 10 handles ram, and all the awesome features it ships with.
Windows 7 wins .
I switched only for performance reasons. Win7's UI was my favorite but I shit you not, every machine I installed Win10 on got a huge performance boost, especially my Thinkpad which is like 10 years old by now. It liteally delivered what Linux fanbois keep claiming about their favorite OS.
Price was definitely a factor, tho. Ever since vendors were allowed to resell OEM keys for cheap here in Europe, I bought Win10 for most of my machines. 5€ for a key seems so much more reasonable than >100€.
@@BahhBahhBrownSheep I agree. I'm not a fan of 10. 7 and Vista work so much better and user friendly compared to 10. Just to get to the HDD I gotta go through multiple loops just to get to the right place. In 7 and Vista all I gotta do is goto one place.
you can turn off this app look stuff and contarna so its looks similar to Win7
LOVE the production value upgrades on your vids! Smooth transition to sponsor/ad, smooth vocal talent, yet still as nerdy as ever. Bueno.
Son: Dad can you drop me to school
Linus: Sure son ...... but after a message from our sponsors, dollar shave club is what keeps your dad look handsome, make sure to use the code linustechtips for 5% off when you need to shave!
@@namelesstheme4046 the hell does that mean
@@apeiron1700 yeah thats sound dumb
@@namelesstheme4046 imagine being a binman and petting a cat.
u try doing full time utube for free
When the guy opened his CD wallet thinking that it may possibly contain a solution...That was me back in the day.
There's one place vista will live forever : In requirements of games😛
RIP Vista ...
I have no regret's in never using you ...
I still remember being annoyed that Halo 2 on PC required Vista
@@browncoat697 there was a crack for that : )
That's because Microsoft refused to backport DirectX 10 for XP.
@@a_void yes, Directx is their only way to kill a Windows ! i wished there was a way to overide that ... It's sad seeing Windows 7 go to waste !
"outdated janky looking UI"
that was my favorite thing
Read this comment as he said it
@@WhoLover me too 🤣🤣
Yeah Win 8/10 ui is shit
I think 10 went a bit to far with the flat and ended up making some things a bit bland.
@@fastertrackcreative Yeah. That's why I use Open Shell to bring back the windows vista menu and even start button
"Yo man for real"
Linus when that mix tape dropping
Everyone else just getting nightmarish flashbacks from this video meanwhile I'm having very nice nostalgic memories of my childhood.
"outdated janky lookig UI"
You mean the UI that everyone got used to until Windows 10 came along and fooked it all up again.
agreed lol i really hate windows 10 tiles and much prefer the simple ui from those days.
Technically windows 8 already changed the design but everyone seems to forget about win 8 😬
Yannick true lol I liked windows 10 just not the tiles but you are right I did forget it started in windows 8.
y'all know you can make windows 10 looks like windows 7 right?
@@Fluffypotato1990 windows 8 had tiles, windows 10 went back to normal
That filmy intro was lit.
Finally someone who said it.
Like Tony Stark
except linus ruined it with his shreaky voice
Yeah, the lighting was excellent, really set the scene.
untill you realize it was an ad
That intro is dope!
TechKerala though clearly Halloween content that was actually late
@@CybornutAnd the reason why that content is late is because they dropped it.
Malayali aano
@@aroxgamerz4363 yes
Bro "eks tech creation" enna channel sub cheyyo pls
And now here we are, 2021, with Windows 11 having the same drama.
windows me: im the worst operating system
windows vista: hold my virus
windows 8: hold my tablet
windows 10: hold my update
lmao
I'm pretty sure that Me is still the worst, everyone has forgotten it though.
@@wordart_guian Windows 9 was the worst, because it never existed so it never contributed to humanity
windows 9 the worst >:(
This is so funny
funny thing about windows me and even windows 4.1 is that its still detecting even actual drivers like even internet drivers and it still works very well :)
Windows Vista: Im the worst operating system
Windows 8: *IM ABOUT TO END THIS WHOLE MAN CAREER*
asdrio275 8 was a complete fuck fest
I was on this "Fuck you Windows 8 start screen interface" bandwagon, but after trying it for a half hour, I came to really like it. Sure, instant search really helped out as well, but to me, it was far more easier to navigate to an icon on a separate screen to launch a program, rather than having to go through sub folders on the menu.
@@ZeldagigafanMatthew The problem wasn't the ease of access through the improved start menu, it was the move to force touch friendly UIs on conventional mouse/kb users. It was simply very clunky and inconvenient to have to always open a full screen app with ridiculously large buttons just to start a program when the same could be done through a small menu like in W10. It's understandable on phones and tablets but on desktop PCs? Don't fix it if it isn't broken.
I kinda liked 8 tbh.
@@monk_I loved Windows 8.